@@tronmosesmedia4816 Thanks for sharing. how is the sa 4000? I've been using MBT through AccessAnalog. before I get my physical MBT, I'm picking up a McDSP APB 8. Going to get used to the workflow of baking a lot of tracks. Then the MBT will probably be a baked drum crush (as mentioned here), as well as on the master bus.
Oh how we wish we had access to that! Unfortunately, that is under lock and key somewhere far away from us. If by some chance it happens to become available we will let you know.
We'll definitely keep it in mind for future videos. In case you missed it, there is a decent explanation of the MBP's SFE th-cam.com/video/3OV46RN72vI/w-d-xo.html
Are there Neve transformers in the paths, In and Out Neve transformers or it's "clean" from the start and when on exit? Can you do all this manipulation with the sound without Neve transformers; for example when entering the unit (mix ...) if it has one, two etc. in the topology ...? The silk section has transformers if I'm not mistaken but you can adjust the levels so no problem there, what about other "sections"?
The MBT has 4 output transformers that are always in the signal path. Super Silk can be used to increase the saturation coming from these transformers but there will always be some level of color coming from those transformers even without the Super Silk section engaged. MBT is all about color, and a part of that is the transformers. They are what Rupert was most known for.
They do different things, and the 5057 summing allows you to get a Large Format Console (LFC) sound and integrate outboard gear into the mix process, with the enhanced width and depth and “mix glue” that only analog summing provides. The MBT adds very different saturation, variable width, parallel compression and a xener limiter, and both flavours of silk, as well as mastering EQ. So they are in fact quite complimentary IMO. The 5057 brings LFC sound in a very repeatable/recallable, and very controllable manner, while the MBT allows you to master your tracks/mixes/instruments and finalize your tone with a very different set of parameters than summing.
Hey I have the RN MBP is this MBT worth adding with MBP? I hear everyone says yes. What do you think? ALSO WHY DIDN’T U PUT POWER BUTTON IN THE FRONT! Ty
We've heard yes as well. Jonathan talks about some of the differences in this video. We are not RND nor did we have any say in the design of the unit so we can't answer the second question.
@@Johnbanthony thanks I ended up getting the MBT and I love it. Love it love it with the MBP I still hate though they didn’t put the power button in the front of the MBT specially at this price point. Are you kidding me? Neve talk about I don’t even want to sex. I’ll be very insulting.
Guys I think you have a ground loop issue with Mr Pines' mic receiver 😀 I can clearly hear the 120 Hz hum. Not a big deal at all but while you are demonstrating a top-notch master bus equipment, using noisy gear is a bit funny, is it the blue silk cranked up?? 😄
Can you please explain how the SuperSilk section is working...the Blue and Red pots control the amount "pre-emphasis" (?), and the Harmonics pot is a mix/blend knob? They're also labeled Min and not "zero", so are they always in but just low when in engaged? Thanks
The Harmonics knob is the same as the Texture knob in Rupert Neve's other designs. One can think about those as interchangeable terms. Each Red and Blue knob controls the amount of each kind of Silk is being applied. Then the Harmonics knob is the overall amount of Silk. Min is essentially no harmonic content from that section. Of course the signal is still passing through a transformer if Silk is engaged so we can’t say, even with the control set at minimum, that the signal is unaffected.
Adding harmonics is by deffinition distortion... Anyway... Guys just invest in your speakers and your room. So many top mastering and mix engineers are working itb... If its good enough for serban ghenea then its good enough for us.
Serban is getting arguably the finest engineered/tracks in the world to mix. Often songs are mostly finished before it even reaches him. Not to say he’s not amazingly talented, but he doesn’t need to reach for tools like this because they are inappropriate and unnecessary for the level of “rough mixes” that he’s bringing given to finish. This is a unit that exists solely to enhance and add analog coloration to productions and mixes that were clearly not tracked on analog gear every step of the way.
This is by far the best detail and advice on the Rupert Neve Designs that I’ve came across. Well said . Thank you guys
Thanks for making this. So hyped to pick up an MBT, always happy to see a new video.
I'm excited. I get mine next week.
@@tronmosesmedia4816 how do you imagine you’ll use it?
I'm going to use it as an insert on my dangerous 2 bus + before my stam audio sa4000. And that will be my outboard master bus @SKTVisMUSIC
@@tronmosesmedia4816 Thanks for sharing. how is the sa 4000? I've been using MBT through AccessAnalog. before I get my physical MBT, I'm picking up a McDSP APB 8. Going to get used to the workflow of baking a lot of tracks. Then the MBT will probably be a baked drum crush (as mentioned here), as well as on the master bus.
Super Silk as a 500 series would be a dream
That's all I'm waiting on for my mobile rig.
Great Video, Thank you !
What a cool guy! No wonder Neve products are so good.
I've got MBT and it adds so much color to my track. It's expensive but worth it to get it.
Can you please share the multitracks of this epic drum set?
Oh how we wish we had access to that! Unfortunately, that is under lock and key somewhere far away from us. If by some chance it happens to become available we will let you know.
Come on guys now i need to buy the Mbt Lol to go with my MBP Loved it on drums was shocked how good it sounded
That Neve dude carries on the name well
I really need that MBT
Thanks, great video, please do an in depth video about MBP with deep explaning of the SFE, there is not much info about that out there.. Best/Mathias
We'll definitely keep it in mind for future videos. In case you missed it, there is a decent explanation of the MBP's SFE th-cam.com/video/3OV46RN72vI/w-d-xo.html
What would like to know?
@@Mike-vr7mb Hi! Do you use it?.
@@MR_Cellarpop Yep
@@Mike-vr7mb Guess it is hard to explain in text how the SFE works and when it is nice to use it.
If there was one MBT or the MPT which one would you purchase first which of the two?
Just got this at the end of last year. The MBT has transformed my mixes. My clients notice a massive difference as soon when I run a mix through this.
I would use it live for sure.
Are there Neve transformers in the paths, In and Out Neve transformers or it's "clean" from the start and when on exit? Can you do all this manipulation with the sound without Neve transformers; for example when entering the unit (mix ...) if it has one, two etc. in the topology ...? The silk section has transformers if I'm not mistaken but you can adjust the levels so no problem there, what about other "sections"?
The MBT has 4 output transformers that are always in the signal path. Super Silk can be used to increase the saturation coming from these transformers but there will always be some level of color coming from those transformers even without the Super Silk section engaged. MBT is all about color, and a part of that is the transformers. They are what Rupert was most known for.
So good!
Are Silk Red and Blue in parallel or series?
The silks are running in parallel.
Is Rupert Neve Designs going to make a 500 series with super silk?
We have no intel as of now but it sounds like a great idea!
@@Johnbanthony Yeah, That is exactly what I like them to make. I am sure it will sell like hotcakes!!!!
They should also update their 542 and sell them as separate units that do more
@@dougleydorite YES. They will sell a ton!
NICE!
I love my MBT :)
Would a Neve orbit 5057 be needed if I had this?
They do different things, and the 5057 summing allows you to get a Large Format Console (LFC) sound and integrate outboard gear into the mix process, with the enhanced width and depth and “mix glue” that only analog summing provides. The MBT adds very different saturation, variable width, parallel compression and a xener limiter, and both flavours of silk, as well as mastering EQ. So they are in fact quite complimentary IMO. The 5057 brings LFC sound in a very repeatable/recallable, and very controllable manner, while the MBT allows you to master your tracks/mixes/instruments and finalize your tone with a very different set of parameters than summing.
@@Johnbanthony I see. Thanks a lot for responding!
Hey I have the RN MBP is this MBT worth adding with MBP? I hear everyone says yes. What do you think?
ALSO WHY DIDN’T U PUT POWER BUTTON IN THE FRONT!
Ty
We've heard yes as well. Jonathan talks about some of the differences in this video.
We are not RND nor did we have any say in the design of the unit so we can't answer the second question.
@@Johnbanthony thanks I ended up getting the MBT and I love it. Love it love it with the MBP I still hate though they didn’t put the power button in the front of the MBT specially at this price point. Are you kidding me? Neve talk about I don’t even want to sex. I’ll be very insulting.
Guys I think you have a ground loop issue with Mr Pines' mic receiver 😀 I can clearly hear the 120 Hz hum. Not a big deal at all but while you are demonstrating a top-notch master bus equipment, using noisy gear is a bit funny, is it the blue silk cranked up?? 😄
Can you please explain how the SuperSilk section is working...the Blue and Red pots control the amount "pre-emphasis" (?), and the Harmonics pot is a mix/blend knob? They're also labeled Min and not "zero", so are they always in but just low when in engaged? Thanks
The Harmonics knob is the same as the Texture knob in Rupert Neve's other designs. One can think about those as interchangeable terms.
Each Red and Blue knob controls the amount of each kind of Silk is being applied. Then the Harmonics knob is the overall amount of Silk. Min is essentially no harmonic content from that section. Of course the signal is still passing through a transformer if Silk is engaged so we can’t say, even with the control set at minimum, that the signal is unaffected.
It definitely adds weight
Adding harmonics is by deffinition distortion... Anyway... Guys just invest in your speakers and your room. So many top mastering and mix engineers are working itb... If its good enough for serban ghenea then its good enough for us.
Everybody has their own taste and working. We appreciate you taking the time to comment.
@@Johnbanthony We all speak english though... "Marketing" is the cause of so much confusion and BS.
Serban is getting arguably the finest engineered/tracks in the world to mix. Often songs are mostly finished before it even reaches him. Not to say he’s not amazingly talented, but he doesn’t need to reach for tools like this because they are inappropriate and unnecessary for the level of “rough mixes” that he’s bringing given to finish. This is a unit that exists solely to enhance and add analog coloration to productions and mixes that were clearly not tracked on analog gear every step of the way.
He literally mentions that it's technically distortion later into the video. Your condescendence is unnecessary
Wow when its Bypassed it sounds so flat!!
Well, I’m s Red White and Blue guy so… Texas baby Yeah!
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