Democracy 4 - Playing as Canada, Fresh out of Early Access! - Pt 2
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21:32 plastic tax:
costs: 0
potential income: 2.23B
Quill: “it’s not super cheap”
Oh quill, still in his citizen mindset, where tax=cost me monies
I think he was talking about the 9 political capital cost on implementing the tax, which is a bit costly for a small increase in income that is also going to inpact gdp negatively.
@@ItuoL no… if you look closely, when he said that his mouse was pointing at the $222M potential income
The plastic bag tax did actually work very well here in Belgium. Made lots of people switch to reusable bags and made us all wonder "wait, why do we have so many plastic bags? We don't need these".
Same in the UK, it was very effective. I wonder if there was an implementation difference between places where it did and didn't work.
I live in a major city in Canada, and my brother works in grocery stores.
It was very effective here too.
the disposal bags did get thicker, but the total volume decreased a lot.
where i am, about 60% use reusable bags.
@@blockeyking since the bag tax came in I have spent far more on plastic bin bags which I never bought before.
The amount of plastic used in reusable bags co.pared to single use bags requires a person to use it a little over a thousand times to make it worth while... I dont know anyone that has used them a thousand times. Reusable bags are almost always worse for the environment than single use bags. But I guess people's conscience can can feel better thinking they are saving the planet is the main reason anyway
@@sullafelix649 I've actually used the same reusable supermarket bags since I got them, which is about 8 or 10 years ago. I must admit I have no idea whether that's the case for others too, but I was aware at the time that if I was to get reusable bags, I would need to use them for years and years.
Regarding 21:20 & plastic bag tax, in New Zealand most supermarkets have moved to cloth bags for ~80c or paper bags for ~10c since thin plastic bags were banned. Sturdy plastic bags are still available in other types of stores but they are actually reusable. Just need to remember to put them in your car.
We never throw out bags in our house. Just have bags of bags all the way down.
even thin plastic bags are reusable
@@Randallator966 Yes they are but in NZ it seems a lot of people were obviously not raised to save all their bags for when they needed them so were just sending them to landfill where they risked getting picked up by the wind and blown around.
Regarding the motorist block in Canada, my absolute favourite run I did of Democracy 3 was managing to make Canada car free with a surplus budget.
Based and Not just Bike-pilled
@@aturchomicz821 "I am from a very Car Centric city called Fake London, It's in Ontario, Canada."
@@cakeisyummy5755 What a precious TH-camr he really is💀
@@aturchomicz821 Why did you use the Skull Emoji in that Context-
10:00 I feel like this one isn't giving enough info, because it mainly comes down to HOW MAJOR is the other country? It's a much different choice if we're talking Iran VS Haiti VS China
In the spirit of the game where there is no right choices, it should be understood that it has moderate impact. It wouldn't be much of a dilemma if it was Lichenstein that got mad at you and bought less maple syrup.
@@sevret313 Yeah, it's one of the side questions, they always have small, short term impacts, if you've played the game enough you should understand this is referring to a country who's political influence on the world stage is, limited, but it still could be a little clearer, especially for anyone playing for the first time.
Starting my first game in over a year now. Can't wait to see what updates they put in during the past year before the official launch. Thanks for reminding me.
I think if you right click on policies whenever it says "right click for details", you get the function of how one property affects another. New in D4 is, that prices and effects may not all increase/decrease linearly. And some stuff has effects on both the top and bottom end but not the middle etc.
I was under the impression that the number in brackets meant how many turns until something has fully taken effect. So when looking at sliders be careful when you are looking at a solid colour vs a whited-out (new word) colour. See Press Freedom in Media Monopoly as an example.
22:59 All lovely gameplay, but I would love for prisons to be changed now. Also, HOW IS A FREE PLASTIC TAX EXPENSIVE!? WOW
He confused the Income for the Cost.
Hope this become a continuing series
good series
omgg these comments are getting so real ; - ;
~15:30 $69B income, Nice.
Plastic Bag Tax: "Yeah, it's doesn't have the effect we want."
Politics: "First time?"
so i don't know about quill's local experience, but speaking as a Canadian, it did. But it required 1 key cooperation from the stores.
In the checkout line, where all the impulse buy items are, are reasonably priced reusable bags. The tax forces you to think about bags at checkout, and if the store makes both options similarly convenient, consumers tend to chose the responsible choice, if they have to think about it and its not hard.
@@TheBarrej2006 A government solution fails? Double down and ... it still fails. But double down again, and maybe everyone will have forgotten it by election time.
There is never any backing down or reversing of powers granted to a government.
Once coals are thrown into the furnace, there is no easy way to get them out.
Reusable bag ate worse for the environment since the need to be used a little over a thousand times to be worth while. They require a lot more plastic than single use bags. They only thing they do is ease people's consciences about the environment. Say alot about today's liberals eh
@@sullafelix649 Exactly. Although you may be thinking about the general consequences caused by creation of durable bags. Not all of them use plastic, but are instead cloth.
And please. They are Leftists. Liberals imply that they give a shit about liberty.
I like his videos😂
Thanks for posting quill
Moar!!
Still rather funny how the game thinks that an "Environmental Capitalist" is a real thing, like theres no _Real_ Environmental Action without Class Action lol
Tru dat bro! but this is just a game and runs on some sketchy assumptions about markets and ideology
@@j.j.r.6075 Or the worst offender must be how the Unionist Voter Block cant see a future after Capitalism, when people lose their jobs because of Automation but dont fall into Poverty theyll get mad anyway like Hello isnt the IWW litearlly the biggest Labour Union in the world? Sigh...
Maybe you aren't advocating socialism/communism, but you should know that the Soviets were extremely harmful to the environment, same with the CCP today. They extracted every last thing the could when they could, with no concern for the ecosystem.
@@sullafelix649 Soviet Union wasnt Communist, China isnt Communust. Nice bait Liberal lol
When you're picking your cabinet members, you should also check their loyalties. At the very least you want to minimize the number of conflicting members of cabinet that would necessarily get mad at things that will make others happy (like conservatives and liberals for example).
On that note, I think you should also invest in reducing the number of motorists so you could reduce car usage, which has a huge affect on the environment, without too much electoral penalty.
Could you try reducing the debt?
pretty sure every time I've watched him play his only consistent actions raise his budget.
@@Chyll07 ahh come onnnnnn thx for telling me
@@Tipacaw hey, maybe this time will be different! :D
@@Chyll07 yay!!!!
Last time I was this early, I was born
Can you tax property instead of income in this game? Also, a government deficit is private (business and individual) savings, so if you want people to continue to save and invest more, you MUST run a deficit. Deficits are actually good and necessary.
You can tax both at the same time for more income so yes
Game Hunting Banned?
Well, this Canada can't be real.... Must be Belgium.
If you plan on adding a lot of new policy you need to be carefully because it can cause bureaucracy overload(I might have the name wrong) which causes reduction to GDP and some other things
You get that in late game and it barley does anything anyway, bat advice
Marao
Does this game allow you to be a corrupt pm and then get rid of the judge investigating your corruption?
Do you also get invincibility for being an incompetent substitute drama teacher?
LOL
#TrueRealism
Gnaw on this...6 years of con smears = 0 charges = 0 corruption.
@@robertlee4172 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@sinistermephisto65 Go ahead, name me one smear campaign by Conservatives that ended up in charges and fines for JT. Absolutely NONE.
@@robertlee4172 Bloody hell. Just because I say Turdeau is a rat doesn't mean I give a flying fuck about the milquetoast Conservatives. Damn! You are so simple minded
@@sinistermephisto65 Where, in my post, does it say you care about Cons? I merely pointed out a fact that Cons made allegations, then got no results. You are the silly simpleton.
Please don't procreate,as that gene pool you share with your family members have a substantive defect. It must end NOW! Pronto.
*Playing as Canada* "We could just ban protests". Yikes! This video aged like milk...
1:00 I like that idea , we're canada id strong business and hight expres to low imports cause it fully Sufficient
Make canada fully rewables or fusion power vertical farms so we can produce pur own energy and food snd not need to get imports only sell our goods and bet awsome green and no det
Canada & Democracy lol
the game is pure propaganda! I love it!
towing the party line?what is this USA politics i thought this was canadia !
oh Honey. Ohhh Honey.
In U S of A, a politician is supposed to follow the party spirit and direction, and generally support the direction the party leader is going in.
In Canada, a politician is supposed to be a mouthpiece for the party leader.
(youtube doesn't like links, so I will post in next comments)
If links don't go through; from the globe and mail (Canadian news site)
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Is Canada's party discipline the strictest in the world? Experts say yes
Experts say Canada's government really is more controlling and less tolerant of dissent than most other democracies in the free world.
Almost all discourse in the Canadian Parliament is scripted by party staffers. Questions posed of the government rarely meet straight answers. Politicians vote as their party leaders dictate nearly 100 per cent of the time. Few private members' initiatives get past first reading.
Do other countries do democracy better? The answer seems to be yes - if you subscribe to the belief that MPs should be free to speak their minds and to act as the voice of their constituents.
"There may be some exceptions in those African dictatorships that are part of the Commonwealth and so on," says Leslie Seidle, a research director with the Institute for Research on Public Policy, "but in the advanced parliamentary democracies, there is nowhere that has heavier, tighter party discipline than the Canadian House of Commons. People are kicked out of their party temporarily for what are really very minor matters."
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Doing small cuts is only wasting political capital. You're 1100 billion in debt so cutting 4 billion a year isn't doing much other than make people less happy and increasing unemployment.
Justice Trudeau, the best thing that happened in Canada. Since his dad in 1968.
At the very least he stopped Harpee Harper, Drew P Scheer, and Erin Boy O'Toole.
(aka the Con Crew)
Do you live in Canada? Have you met the 67% of people that didnt vote for him? Have you seen prices of everything rise? Do you like parents not having the final say on how to raise their kids? Was it cool when he wore blackface those three different times? Did you like when he asked if we should "tolerate" people who were unvaxed? He is quite possibly the worst thing to happen to a free and tolerant Canada, since both freedom and tolerance have dwindled under his "leadership".
@@sullafelix649 Oh right, freedom and tolerance. How much freedom and tolerance did Scheer have for immigrants? Or when Harper set up the snitch lines.
@@sullafelix649 and furthermore...67% could not stop JT from winning 3rd term. Rising prices all over world, not only Canada. Parents can raise their kids any way they like, just stay within Canadian laws. Blackface was a highschool prank. The unvaxxed are less than 16%. You need some milk.
@@robertlee4172 Yea I guess trying to stop forced marriages of underage girls is really intolerant lmao scheer was trying to stop people from taking advantage of loopholes and go to a more economic based system, but I guess looking out for Canadians first is bigoted and evil? But hey you're right, "intolerant" conservative leadership totally justifies justin doing bad things too.
trudeau going after the oil industry has lead to an increase in gas prices and in turn for everything to become more expensive than it otherwise would be. Now he demands truckers quarantine once they enter the country which will only further increase prices and probably cause shortages since we get some many things from the states. Literally anyone who though about it for 10 seconds would see that it would lead to more struggling for average Canadians and small business owners.
Parents and therapists can be jailed for trying to get their child treatment for gender dysphoria. trudeau always claims to be standing up for the rights of minorities but doesn't care at all about the minority of people that are unvaxed. He would be one of the first people to cheer for bodily autonomy, until we start talking about coercing people into an irreversible medical procedure.
@@sullafelix649 Increased gas price due to JT? What crock of shit you been supping at? Your unvaxxed counterparts are filling ICUs 3 to 1. But of course that never factors into the con calculus. Your aim is to smear.
I can’t imagine role-playing with politics first of all the Bible actually didn’t even want government to begin with if you read the book of kings we were told that we would be taxed and there would be wars ahead of time. God was actually against government but anyway politics usually start arguments so I could see this game really taking off I don’t know how popular it is. I kind of think it is the Democrats way of trying to see who is smart at making democracy actually work for once. But anybody who has this much time towards a game obviously must be lucky in life and rich and not have to have a job lol
Its cute anyone thinks Canada is democratic anymore.
So it was before? Before when women couldnt vote or before when the army invaded Quebec?
Canada, isn't that the place where you cant say boys born as boys will remain boys, regardless of the amount of boobs they have since gotten?
@@Baddy187 And where you get fined weekly for not taking a pfizer product or get thrown in prison for not getting the poke.
@@mephistosinner2 well in what country people that risk other peoples lives arent punished? Maybe you guys should go live there...they seem very democratic
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