Ludwig Reacts To: "The Biggest Cheating Scandal in Trackmania History"
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- Ludwig Reacts To: "The Biggest Cheating Scandal in Trackmania History"
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Techno got rinsed by the report, but he managed to get out safely by admitting it immediately. Riolu set himself up for the biggest life destruction in gaming history.
I don't know if rinsed is how I would describe it per se, but he came clean about all the cheating he hid in TMUF and has driven clean since, more like it just happened to come up while digging and he just admitted.
techno also doesn't make a living from playing trackmania, selling merch and streaming. techno isn't even an active player anymore, he couldn't care less.
@@Doofens Techno! obviously does care, he wouldn't have came forward about cheating much less help with the investigation if he didn't, you don't have to be a prominent content creator or active player to care about the game and community. To be completely frank Riolu could have overwhelmingly avoided this whole thing by just (aside from not cheating in the first place like a moron) being up front about what he did. Trying to make it seem like Wirtual was the enemy and he was being "targeted" killed basically any chance of being a content creator or online community member indefinitely. I like to think if he was honest here about what happened there would have been a lot of hurt feelings but people would move on and he likely could have continued making content/streaming although probably suffering significant loss in income.
Not to mention he only cheated because Riolu was beating all his records
@@username2748 well assuming you believe that. Many many times cheaters have half-admitted when caught, only later you find out they did more. Nothing strange about that, it's human nature.
"This is 15% funnier because they are all european"
Never have I been so offended with something I 100% agree on.
Yes, same here.... greetings from germany :D
What I take away from this is that americans are 15% less funny by default.
As an American I know how it feels...
Imagine living in Europe smh
This comment was made by European’t gang
@@WereDictionary no its just 13% actually
Who cares about the records? - Says man with the most records, lmao
Yeah thats next level fucked.
Riolu: Trackmania? what is that ? i dont even own a computer.
Whats a internet
Eoeo
I set my world records in real life
Just like Austrian minister of finance Gernot Blümel. "Laptop? What Laptop? I dont remember ever having owned a Laptop?!"
Caveolu
The thought that Riolu cheated the TMTurbo Trackmaster records really pisses me off as that's the game I've been grinding a lot recently
fl or ableton?
@@thefapboy1850 Logic 😎
@@IlysianOfficial noice
@@thefapboy1850 wtf
@ilysian hey same here man ive actually been chasing top 25 records and such and really going for the super solo but like i just watched this like just now and idk how to feel
"looks like lame rocket league"
might actually be the most pepega chat message I've ever laid my eyes on
it's 100% true though lmfao
@@Sausytime It's 0% true. Both games have steerable cars. That's all the similarities. I've got about 2000 hours in Rocket League and several hundreds in Trackmania.
@@joda3615 don’t you know, car go forwards=rocket league
@@fishtail2616 car go brrrrrrrrr
@@Sausytime Vastly different games. You're part of the type of people who say Terraria is like Minecraft. Trackmania is an insanely competitive, extreme learning curve, skillfloor/ceiling. While RL has that too, it's vastly different levels/ and types of skill. (I have several hundred hours in both games)
I love how trackmania as just become a spectacle for people. Yall should try the game though
I'm pretty new to the game so I second this, nations forever still has an awesome online community
yep same, just not a fan of the sub model for the new game.
@@WideTrashAttack yeah
it's a good lesson to learn that even if you think you're completely successful at doing something unfairly/illegally eventually you might get caught. Personally just a couple years ago i didn't even know trackmania still had an active community or even players. Who could've imagined that the game would come back in the spotlight because of youtube and another person would create a software to detect cheaters
Ludwig has played it before
Video starts at 5:00
Question to the uploader: What's the point of the 5 minute long nonsense?
lazyness I think
Ambient
Thakes
Watchtime from ppl too lazy to skip ?
It's the silence before the storm
I remember seeing something about how riolu’s girlfriend accidentally ratted him out by saying something about how its crazy how fast the game looks for everybody else, for riolu it looks slower
it was techno, not riolu. But funny notheless
The worst thing about this are the tons of comments under riolus last video with thousands of upvotes saying stuff like "just apoligize and move on" signaling that his fans have essentially already set themselves up to forgive him if he just makes the least amount of effort.
This is obviously ridiculous. This wasnt some oops he cheated once as a kid. he cheated continously for a decade well into his 20s. he continued to cheat when he had already made a name for himself with it and built up a successful career from it. hes a chronic cheater if Ive ever seen one and although he presents himself as a cool and likeable guy on stream (which is why people are already forgiving him) he showed his true colors when he was totally willing to destroy the reputation and credibility of a good friend that was just trying to help him get out of this mess in the most graceful way possible. He was totally willing to take a friend who did nothing wrong down with him for a slim chance to keep is reputation and make this go away. This is the true character of riolu not the niceguy he presents himselv to be and this is much more inline with someone who cheats for a decade in a highly competetive game just to get ahead. I am all for forgiveness and redemption but it should take a bit more than just some half assed apology that hes only making because he got caught. Especially in such a severe case like this. But lets see what happens.
I don't play TM, but I *loved* watching Riolu learn the cup of the day every day and just about always come top 3, often win. He's an incredible player, and none of the other equally good players have a personality I can bear. I miss him already. I understand exactly what you're saying, but I'm one of those who said if he admits it and apologises I'd re-sub. There's one redeeming fact here - he's never been accused of cheating in live runs, and that's what I want to watch him do. I *don't care* about the world records - others do, I get that.
@@jeremykothe2847 none of the others have personalities you can bear?
huh... i mean, ok. Not judging, just curious.
@@pallingtontheshrike6374 that was perhaps harsh. None of the others I've watched have hooked me the way Riolu did. Is that better?
ive said this so many times and ill say this again, cheating is like taking drugs, its impossible to get out of until you get caught, why should he stop when he isnt losing anything? no one ever accused him. speaking from experience
@TheTruth
Your name fits so well with this comment. Agreed!
The being treated nicely part is so ironic considering his insane cheated records brought honest runners to cheating and wasting years trying to beat his times
All that being said, the cheaters actually pushed the legit runners to do the impossible and beat the TAS runs, true Gamers will grind out insane shit.
It's not an excuse to cheat, if you can't beat the record, just get over it, you're most likely worse. Only one person can be best at something. With this mindset, everyone would be cheating.
Don't worry, hes making an apology video at 10% speed
40%*
I think it's safe to say it's about .005 percent uploaded
@@Cmplx.08 His point was that he's taking forever to apologize about the situation why did you have to *correct* him when he was actually right lol
@@TheSpacePlaceYT he played the game at 40% speed. That’s the joke. What I replied with was a joke. Not correcting him but a joke. A joke referencing the speed at which he played the game.
@@Cmplx.08 Ah, I didn't catch that. That was slick!
What kind of psychopath doesn't edit out the part at the beginning where Ludwig leaves the fucking stream for 3 minutes? Lol
This is the first cheating scandal with a good amount of players involved that I actually know all of them it’s kinda sad
Wirtual made me like TM just by his videos, and I don't even play it
osu players be like: This clicking speed is so slow i thought he was afk for a moment
aetrna, Aricin, Zylice and RyuK: pathetic
@@Syuzhu Zestiny: am I a joke to you?
If u cheat in class u only harm yourself if u cheat competitively u harm others
No. If you cheat in class you harm others, because an exam is rated in relation to other exams (if its not math). Thats why it is illegal.
@@Falquiboy where did u go to school?
@@justsaying9456 In Spain, in Germany and I have a law degree from a German University.
To clarify: A valuation is based on objective factors and to a great extent on subjective factors that are determined by the experience of the person that is validating the exam. A cheated exam will in fact devalue other exams, because of this "relative correctness".
Nah cheating in class doesnt harm anyone school is just favored towards people with better memory
@@wxbrainiac That clearly depends on a country, type of test etc. And cheating in class can harm other hard working students. That's kind of the point. But since school is seen as the "enemy", while community is seen as friend, cheating the system is seen as nothing bad or even heroic, but cheating your community is seen as horrible. The thing is that cheating in school can also be cheating community.
6:13 it's the difference between cheating in something you're forced to do versus something you chose to do. We don't have a choice when it comes to school, you can't just not do it. In something like trackmania or sports, it is different because you chose to do it.
Profi Sport is also an exception because everyone is cheating so in theory no one is, football at the highest lv are all on illegal stuff basketball the same (mostly growth hormone), weight lifting sprinting you won't find a sport where they don't cheat😂
did "twitch is my hood" just leave in several minutes of nothing? wtf?
Thing about riolu is that his fanbase consists of trackmania players. While Wirtual, after he blew up, now has people who have never heard or played trackmania.
I love how lud isn't even there for like the first 3 minutes lol
and the editor left it in
@@prawtism gotta get that watch time
Why you love that
Video starts at 5:00
first 3 minutes of the video is ludwig being afk, quality content
Donedigo didn't FIND the software to do this. He found a useful detail about the game and built the tools to catch cheaters using that detail.
Nah he just stumbled upon it while out and about
You know that youtube isn't live and you can cut bits from the video that you upload... Right? 🤷♂️
Fax bro
You might not know this but you can stream to youtube and twitch at the same time
@@zetsutsuletsu2034 I do know that, videos that were streamed to TH-cam instead of uploaded tell you when it was first streamed... 👍
I haven’t watched Riolu in a couple months and had no idea. I feel cheated myself… I thought he was a chill dude with his livestreams, but Jesus. Goes to show that ANY TH-camrs or Live-streamer are capable of this. I enjoy Ludwig as a content creator, but I’ll never idolize him because I don’t see him as above me. That doesn’t mean that I don’t respect him; I just know that humans are capable of anything and have the ability to hide their skeletons in a closet. Wirtual is also a respectable content creator that I love to watch, but I’d never idolize him either. We’re all human after all.
31:09 Agreed. Cheaters in competitive games need to lose everything. Riolu has already lost his records and doesn't stream any more so in that sense justice has been served.
The rest that needs to happen is to curbstomp any chance of him getting a foothold anywhere in the community again and let people forget him.
If he had just admitted I think he’d be welcome back after some time. But the extra denial and trying to flip it away from himself showed he really wasn’t ready for the consequences
@@odeo5691idk, with how big Wirtual has become nowadays, do you think people would be able to just forget the names and the framing? honest question.
@@andreasthiemke9520 it’s not really forgetting as much as it is forgiving over time. However he did seal his fate by trying to deny so hard
at 11:51 the DNB logo is actually one of thee biggest banks in Norway. It stands for "Den Norske Bank" translated "The Norwegian Bank"
if they have done the cheat with a stearing wheel doing constant movement they might have gotten away with it
Did the first 3 minutes of this video have any point?
Nope. Could've cutted it out lol
credit to wirtual??
4:47
@@RAAZR- No credit whatsoever in the video description
@@munzutai he called all of wirtual’s videos “must watch” and highly urged everyone to go and watch them all and talked about it for a pretty long time. He gave credit
@@Giganticonion Yeah, Ludwig did, but this bad excuse of a TH-cam channel didn't
I was ill the 2 weeks we were doing our final project in school. Ended up plagiarizing 90%, rearranging it and peppering it with my own assessments. I'd read most of the material, but actually writing it from start to finish only took 4 hours. I know somewhat how to avoid popular sources that can be tracked and which parts to obscure from easily searchable phrases, so I was not caught.
I feel as though that is bs and limits students like who cares if some kid from bumfuck nowhere writes about your work for a shitty project that won't lead to anything of value or learning experience.
I'm a teacher and I think if someone is smart or skilled enough to cheat in my test... they deserve it 🤷🏾♂️ shows some competence and skills, tho not the oned asked by me 😂
Thé reason why cheating in class is ok is because you don’t fuck up other people’s grades when you cheat but when you cheat in a competition you fuck up the leaderboards
I just started playing track mania this week. Most addicting game I’ve ever played
32:03 Scrapie was in the chat btw
riolu said: u wanna se some slow speed?
If someone can truely hate Wirtual they are just weirdos, dudes completey wholesome and just loves his game.
I understand it kinda since people were kept in the dark and led to believe Wirt was withchunting Riolu for a record he cheated when he was like 11. If that was the case it would be a bit weird of Wirtual. Of course we now know that this was sooo much worse, which is why most people agree with Wirtual now
lmaoooo Ludwig accurately summing up every big drama channel. Constantly attacking others but going "oh no hate tho is my community is a pile of shit it's not MY fault"
I mean school cheating only effects you for better or worse though video game cheating takes a spot in the leader board from actually talented player or cheating just ruins others game in multiplayer
lol ludwig roasting the guy is funny af
You had to include the 3 min where he was pissing? Lmao
Is school less of a zero sum game vs records/competitions?
Should do a collab with the Slow Mo Guys
But I saw you on the live stream.
It wasn't me.
Saw you cheating world records.
It wasn't me.
Even played it slow motion.
It wasn't me.
Riolu: It was Wirtual!!!
Wirtual: It was him, I saw him do it.
Wirtual came in and he caught me red-handed
Playing the game in slow-mo
@@Drybones898 picture this we were both staring at the cheat engine with 40% slow
20:18 - To quote a Conversation from the Movie "Cool Runnings":
Irv: You wanna know why I cheated, right?
Derice Bannock: Yes, I do.
Irv: That's a fair question. It's quite simple, really. I had to win. You see, Derice, I'd made winning my whole life. And when you make winning your whole life, you have to keep on winning, no matter what. You understand that?
Derice Bannock: No, I don't understand. You won two gold medals. You had it all.
Irv: Derice, a gold medal is a wonderful thing. But if you're not enough without one, you'll never be enough with one.
This might be an possible answer why people do cheat... But not necessary a sufficient one for everybody tbh.
This man legit put a 2 minute break at the beginning of the vid
27:09 Says the guy who fucked ice physics over with an illegal keyboard 😂
23:14 LMAOOOO that got me good
4:57 reaction starts
27:38 calling this a snitch move is mental
so racehans is best? :O i knew it! his compilations are awesome :D
Hefest: *allow me to introduce myself*
@6:05
If you cheat in school, you only victimize yourself. If you cheat in gaming (especially in speedrunning) you victimize the entire community.
Well depends, not sure if it's like this for everyone, but in here, to get to public uni u basically compete against other applicants for the limited spots, score is based of high shool average + a global exam, some degrees is easy to get in because they rarelly fill up the spots, but other degrees, such as medicine, have a really tight competition for them, basically if there's 60 spots only top 60 applicant scores can enter, so by cheating and taking a spot you're essentially kicking someone who might have been studying really hard off the list, and not everyone can afford attending private universities
You are rated in relation to other participants, just like in a game. Cheating in an exam (if its not math) is cheating on every other participant.
@@Falquiboy thats not true all the time tho, in my experience in american school cheating doesnt effect the other ppl around you unless the exam is graded on a curve or like your teacher hates you
Ive been chasing ghosts, and those ghosts were cheated. Holy shit.
19:50
Ludwig goes full react andy
Bruh you could’ve cut out the first 3 minutes 🤦🏻♂️
he just used speedbreaker
What’s that
@@Burgerklauer speadbreak from nfs most wanted 2005. When you use it the game slow down.
lmao
riolu probably inspired by those games lol (most wanted, carbon, and undercover)
Why would you not cut out the first 3 mins?
which is the one with pablogd
Bro pauses more then my math teacher
Props to the people who admitted to it
Hey RIOLU here, sorry for my late comment, I got slowed down on my way here
16:32 i play trackmania everyday of my life, and this is so fucking relatable xdd
Why on earth would you start the video with three minutes of dead air?
Lance Armstrong was also invited to the Swiss labs that ended up processing his sample that would ONLY be the result of doping, just more of less detectable. Never rode clean his whole life. And while riolu could achieve clean records on live streams (weaker records to break, obviously), an athlete can never be physically clean after cheating, the ripple effect through time is infinite. Just, detection is super, SUPER flawed due tot he tolerances involved.
Every tour de France guy is doped 😂😂😂 same as for Profi football (American and soccer) basketball weight lifting swimming running and most other sports where you make money btw the lance Armstron/tour de France doping scandal was about a doctor who interestingly enough had also a loot of football(soccer) players as patients somehow his records got stolen and he refused to say anything to that because he feared for his life😂 even in maa or other sports the guy use Performance enhancing stuff that isn't allowed
6:28 That's definitely not a subtle Freudian slip admitting that your whole career is built on a sham in one way or another but yeah right right on man you guys are really cool over here in your turtle necks
Ludwig had already seen this video? It showed he had already seen it when he checked out Wirtual's channel. So his reaction isn't pure...
2021: Trackamania community discovers cheat engine lol
Well, there was no way to verify if someone used cheat engine because you couldn't see the inputs. Then they found out input files are made with the replay file to validate if runs have correct physics. You can use cheat engine to modify physics, but the run wouldn't validate properly. If you slow the game down, the run validates and when played at 100% looks totally legit unless you can see the inputs.
14:41
>Me an Acceleracers fan: ;-;
I thought I was the only one
It's been a year already wtf
ludwig is not the brightest light... why ae people watching him react ? he has nothing interesting to say about most topics he reacts to...
Why does the video start with him going afk? Come on man its already 33min
Starts at 5:03
i love trackmania canyon
5:04
Then put the video in the description
Starts at 3:50
Power: The human population is ‘eternally’ ratioed. Invisibility too, no shot!
Wirtual is indeed a sick TH-camr
he should change his name riolu! god damned.. he using lucario jr as his username. lols
random you right
19:40
3 minutes of empty chair right at the beginning , guess it was too hard to cut the VOD uh ?
11:51 hahaha DNB is a Norwegian bank. Den norske bank=the norwegian bank.
Couldn’t someone reverse engineer the inputs to make the most precise run? Maybe I’m too early in the video lol
Those are 'tool assisted speedruns/superplays'. You can totally do that, to show off ideas, but you have to admit that that's how you made the run.
You really couldn't even pretend to edit this and remove the minute of dead air with just his chair on the screen.
The school analogy is a poor one. Someone else getting an A grade doesn't affect your chances of getting one, so they can do whatever they want, it makes no difference to you. In a racing game there are winners and losers. If you lose because someone else cheated, obviously you're going to feel like the whole thing is a waste of time, hence the importance of identifying and exposing cheaters.
Hah the fact that you said that you didn't know who Riolu was before this video, just proves that you DONT watch every Wirtual video.
Draek
god damnit always getting bullied for being european
:D
Lol Riolu is sad
So someone else makes the video. This dude plays the video on his channel and makes a name for himself? TH-cam has changed s a lot.
Thanks for adding 3 minutes of nothing at the start of the video
Darkviperau was right
"This is blackmailing if I have ever seen it. Is he my dad?" Dude, do you need to talk about your childhood? That is not a good connection to be making.
Ludwig seems kinda brain fryed
I had to dislike, simply because you left in several minutes where Ludwig was going to the bathroom that could easily have been cut out.
You could just delete the first 5 min... Dont waste time
Stolen video from Wirtual TM
...
15 year old starts cheating in call of duty: gets banned, stops cheating, nothing happens.
15 year old starts cheating in trackmania: 10 years later whole investigation starts with obama already on his way to germany xDDD
Thing is, he didnt stop, and went pro, even in cod that would be drama. Especially because he is also a big tm streamer
Would it kill you to edit out the minute or so where he’s gone? I mean it’s not even your content