@@evilkamatis542 I can't give you a definitive answer as I am waiting for my current phone to give me a reason to replace it with the Zenfone. However, if the DAC implementation is as good as the dongle that came with my Asus Zenbook (laptop) which I use on a daily basis, it should be more than great!
I remember Juan Bagnell was saying something along the lines "we have an increasing interest in lossless, yet companies are taking away the most accessible way to enjoy lossless" which i totally agree. Props to Sony for keeping the headphone jack
I don't know about you guys. But I'm very interested in this phone for its 3.5 headphone jack to replace my LG V60. And surprisingly, no one even talks about its performance against the high end headphones, every reviewer just said 'well it got the headphone jack' and that's it.
@@CwanYo because they just tell the truth.If you are using DAP for music playback, I think you won't have this question, besides sony still run its own walkman series, you can check out what is wm1a, wm1z looks like.
Excellent video, I'm by no means an audiophile, but too many people just write off the 3.5mm without going into how it sounds. It would have been great if you included a little bit about the front facing speakers though
Probably because most people use cheap headphones. Look at most people who use wired headphones, they only purchase maybe $50 on wired headphones but are willing to spend $100 maybe $200 on wireless
@@paulzz81 And how many people do you think know about that? Most people just either just use the pack in IEMs or go to some brand like Sony, apple, or skull candy to get headphones
@@crestofhonor2349 I'd say more and more every single day. But you're right, mainstream is not audiophile focused. Recent moves by Apple and Spotify are mostly inconsequential for us. Look at Amazon Music HD, it sucks. I use streaming flac files from Tidal into my home setup. I also have my own hires local files library.
That's what bugs me, people are willing to spend more than twice as much for TWS buds (XM4 is kinda worth it tho) just for "convenience" while sound which is the main purpose a headphone/earphones/buds serves goes out the window!! I'd rather have a decent IEM or something like a HD58X instead. But the problem is that 3.5mm jacks are becoming rarer by the day & even the ones that do have it don't match up to LG!
@@paulzz81 any tips on how to/where from download hi-res FLAC files?? I don't have any equipment to appreciate those yet but would certainly like to start building a library of songs for when I do own a decent pair of cans or IEMs (I'm saving for the HD58X so that I can use them with my phone as well). I've started noting down the songs Joshua uses in his vids apart from the ones I already know (like Mountains or The Mole-basically Hans stuff) The bass in the intro everyone's talking about is barely noticeable on my earphones unless I crank the volume up and then Josh starts talking. I also want to xp such powerful bass (obv not the Beats kind)
I have moved to xperia 5ii from LG V50 and V30 and unfortunately I does lack the power to drive my DT990/770 Pros 250 version. So thats a downgrade, no problem if using something less power demanding. The rest is perfect.
I own the Xperia 5 ii and i love this phone especially the headphone jack. Download USB audio player pro which you can download hi res music and select Hi Res dac in settings and it sounds better than Master Quality Tidal imo
@@scottygdaman thanks for the reply scott , i've been using audiophile stuff for about 15 years , i have plenty of dac's such as hugo 2 , pro idsd , wm1a , dg red and cobalt , cambridge and some fiio dac , ifi zen series and some other , the thing is i just enjoy using sony products , soundwise i usually pair my z1r with hugo 2 or pro idsd + pro ican combo or wm1a sometimes i enjoy using also with dx160 2020 which also has nice neutral tuning
The jack performs very badly indeed, i have this phone. The quality is good, but it has pitiful driving power! My iPhone 6s with a dongle dac is about 20% louder than my Xperia 1 ii….
With LG out of the market it's good that Sony is coming back. They're not treating the headphone jack in the same way, but it's good to see it nonetheless.
I dont think xperia 1 III is near close to quadDAC LG's :( my v60 runs headphones up to 200 ohms. But xperia 1 III is the only 888 soc this year with decent 3.5mm
All of the Xperia 1 phones have been really really good. Sony would get back on top of the Android market if they would get back in with Carriers. Problem is most people don't go outside of their carrier to buy a phone, unless they are going to the used market. That being said, if Sony really went for it with an Audiophile version of the Xperia 1 device with a really good Amp/DAC. They could really get in there.
man LG had soo much bloatware and useless stock apps that were soo clunky, so it's nice to have Sony looking into all the refinements we want and need. Sony seems to offer as much tech as possible in their devices so I hope their phone category BLOWS UP, and that turns to R&D. Also Sony develop technology and are market leaders in certain categories. Apple for example only make the chips from ARM, that's it. Sony would use that market share/position far better, so exciting times!
Yep 5 III is more of a manageable size & has much better battery life since it doesn't include the unnecessary 4k screen, maybe Sony should choose 3440*1440 next time instead
@@intensifiedhipster I highly doubt it'd be the exact same. If you are looking for a good sound output u can takea look at the Zenfone 8, but you need to live with the 888
the three models have it if I'm not wrong mostly differences between models it's in the size, camera, screen and some components but I remember they mentioned everything else was the same
I love ny LG V50 but as long as Android resample to 48khz where is the sense? Even playing through usb c I can’t play amazon music in hi res. And I say 99.9% of users can‘t here the different.
Hi guys in case it helps going through USB completely bypasses the 48Khz Android limitation noted above. That's only a Bluetooth cap for Android (which still sucks for Bluetooth but I'm glad it only is an issue for BT)
They never once created an high quality dac, wasted my money on lg g5, g6, v20 and last v50. Sound was just meh. Fiio btr5 sounded more full and even better than those phones, i guess they really just phone who have 3.5mm who sounded a little better on iphone and other androids. Just a little bit tho. The only saving grace on lg dac phones was it can run my hd6xx and max volume for my arya 😂
The problem with these companies is that they don't optimize the chips that they have. There are plenty of DAPs (or phones) that have the exact same chips that the LG phones had in their "quad DAC" but all of them do poorly in comparison (particularly the cheap Chinese ones). Just plastering a chip on there and just advertising that isn't good enough, it needs to have partnerships with professional companies to optimize and tune it. There are entire departments focused on this. It's what LG did for years with Meridian and Bang & Olufsen being involved in the process.
I loved my V40 alot, but then after plugging in my Lotoo PAW S1 DAC/AMP Dongle I must say, it blew away the V40 in almost every sound quality area, except practicality ^^
@@TigerGreene I love good audio but I'm no audiophile and it's entirely possible that it's all in my head from more marketing of the dac but I think my V30 sounded better, also was slightly better at powering higher impedance headphones (my Senn Drop HD 6xx), and allowed for a little more customization Still plenty happy with my Sony however, as a phone I prefer it over the LG but both are great
Do you know how the V60 fared against the Sony Xperia 1 II, Samsung S20 Ultra, or other flagship phones that came out the same year? (I imagine not many comparisons were made against 2021 phones)
@@TigerGreene would be interested too with S10 plus too...sadly most website do not test the audio jack anymore. Xperia 1 II was not really better for me
@@TigerGreene sending this from my V60, I can confirm that it beats the shit out of all of those phones you mentioned when it comes to audio, cameras are amazing too, overall a very enjoyable phone, ngl
@@Danbo0644 just curious cauz I don't know much about these as audio stuffs. When it comes to audio quality, can zenphone 8 compete with Lg v60 and sony Xperia 1 iii. I'm planning on getting zenphone 8.
@@aungjee depends on what your needs are, if you need a phone that can drive very high impedance headphones, V60 is the way to go, the quad DAC makes a huge difference, but if you're only going to use low impedance headphones, you should be fine with the 1 III or the Zenphone 8
This phone arrived yesterday and I'm in love with mobile phones again. I had a Galaxy S10 and it was just so Toyota Camry, phone feels amazing and now I have to order a pair of ie900s. Love your work Joshua thank you for producing such high quality videos that are such a pleasure to watch!!!
Sony makes amazing headphones. I highly recommend you check out/review the MDR-1AM2. Probably one of the best and most underrated closed back headphones on the market imo.
@@onielsplants1785 does balanced really make a difference? They're already super loud and sensitive without balanced amps, so I doubt they'd benefit from the added power
@@ThePCForever no idea, it's likely the dac in general that makes a difference. But I will say Im not a fan of the headphones directly plugged into my phone/laptop. They truly sound much better in the zen dac. Much brighter and tighter low end. I just use the balanced because the option is there!
True... Way too expensive.. I'm a great SE and xperia fan... But sadly this is too expensive! And when we will be able to buy it.. After some years.. Than.. No more updates.. So. It's a no go now and... Later. Sadly
btw: The Xperia 1 II has the same Jack/DAC/Amp as the III but should be in general way cheaper due to being 1 year on the market. Also i'd recommend the Sony Music Center App cause there is a setting to use direct output of the phone which further improves the sound quality (but only works for local music).
Sony next phone just use ESS ES9281PRO DAC and a really good amp like the one LG uses but try to up ante over those V series phones and you got a winner. The DAC is what holding this back from being a true all in 1 audiophile device.
Bro try the KZ S10 pro and let me know how it is compared to your BL 03
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Jack on the top of the phone, not for my back pockets pens, neither using it in public transports with the cable pointing to others. Keeping my LG V20.
I have a LG V40 and as you know it has a HiFi Quad Dad which was why I chose it. What do you think about the Xperia 1iii comapring to LG? Is LG headphone jack still better than this phone ? Or what you do you think between the two? Thanks 🙂
I have the Xperia 5 II & it's a great phone but I actually bought the Sony Walkman a105 a few years ago for dedicated mobile music listening (like in the gym) & found its way better tbh. Maybe the audio quality is negligible because it's all pretty great now, but the ease of use of a small device with physical buttons Vs a big ass phone with touch screen is noticeable
@@youtubeairways8646 meant to be yeah, but all these phones are big tbh, especially compared to that A105. For the gym, the a105 just goes in my pocket and I almost forget it's there, but a phone... Hell nah, phones are super noticeable in shallower pockets, plus they're heavier, too much hassle
@@WildfireX I see. I'm not far off the polar-opposite of a gym goer (imagine paying to do intense exercise, capitalism right), I wouldn't know xD. But I am an Xperia user, so I have some sympathy for you.
Thanks for the comment, that's good to know. I always wondered what benefit a dedicated music player offered, when we have pretty advanced smartphones.
Please review the last great audiophile phone the LG V60, with some proper headphones that need power, and earbuds, bluetooth aptxhd, ldac, tidal, mqa, usbaudio app, and wired and the hf stereo recording app. Thanks, that would make for a great send off.
@E. O. A little harsh I would say, basically its nothing but a lock out scheme, if you want to hear in the higher bit depth and frequency, you have to pay up, it adds nothing to the music, but it locks out the higher quality from those that do not pay up. so it's a profit making machine, and many people love it and pay for it, because on some platforms like Tidal that is the only way to unlock the higher resolution files, it dopes not make them worse or better, it just empties your pockets. having said that the software versions are cheap in many cases $4 and that's it, or if your device already has the MQA unlocking feature cool, and of course hackers get around it. Unfortunately with software many companies are doing this, for instance Tesla has self driving features that are locked already on the car, you own, but will only unlock them if you pay. Many cpu's and gpu's are actually the same as the next model up, but hardware or software disabled from running like that top model. That is the new profit model along with renting by subscription, or buying a game, but then to get the features you want you have to pay up, so that app store game for free, can end up costing well over a hundred dollars.
Could you turn this review into a series please. All the other phone reviewers are obsessed with the camera and rarely even mention audio. There are other phones out with 3.5mm headphone sockets and I would like to know how they stack up. We will never get better phone audio unless some attention is drawn to it by influential reviewers. Thanks
Great review from an audiphile's perspective but there's one problem, you should've used the Sony's stock music player (like a normal person does) instead of using a subscription based third party app
All I'd like to know is how does it compares to the LG V series? I have a v50 and was planning to keep it as a dedicated music device since the company phone department is dead.
I have lg v30, lgv50 and Sony Xperia 1ii. I use etymotic er4xr and er4sr. My conclusion is no fight, lg still beats Sony hands down. You can easily tell from the first 10 seconds that the lg quad dac and op amp creates a volume of air for all the details in the recording to be heard. Compared against the lg, Sony Xperia sounded very flat to me. On less than stellar earphones, Sony sound good enough but no way they can replace dedicated dacs like what the lg was able to do for me. I still keep my lg for music listening.
I just got it, it's so amazing, snappy and clean. Very classy phone. I think I will finally ditch my iPhone for this, it's so good!! Doesn't overheat, battery is very well managed, screen is just out of this world and the form factor makes it a breeze to use (though keyboard is big so I don't miss a key!). The form factor also allows for more content when scrolling on twitter/facebook etc. Camera is good, I don't understand the hate. You do need to understand some photography theory though, but the auto is also good enough. Everything looks natural which is why I was seeking to leave Apple, following latest iPhone releases. I'm not here to take photos of pitch dark scenes that don't even inspire me to photograph in the first place. I have proper long exposure if I wanted to get impressed. But real world, I want dark pics, as dark as my eyes can see. Look back at old pictures and see how many times you clench your teeth at badly AI modified pics of your precious memories, I hate that. Ahh I love this phone, I'm keeping it. Gaming btw is fantastic too.
Would you consider posting a list of the songs you use to test headphones or is that like a trade secret lol I’ve listened to a lot of the songs you bring up in your videos and they are always excellent, it would be really cool to have an easy way to see all of them!
I picked up the Asus ROG 5 phone, it has an "Audiophile quality ESS Sabre quad DAC" (quote), don't know how it compares to the Sony, but it rocks. It also has the jack on the bottom, which I prefer.
if you want headphone out: either this or go mid/ budget range. oh how I hate apple for making this the norm. About the Sony H/O performance on itself, I always thought that the tonality of Sony built in amp to be quite well done, its pretty clean as well, it's just that people like to bash on it as mediocre because of all the extra power the LG phones used to provide. while in actuality, I never actually think the H/O out of them to be that stellar, especially when I only drive IEM out of my phones these days. so really Xperia 1/5 all the way for me.
How was this an audiophile review? What is the DAC that it uses? What technology is behind the DAC? What file types and rates does it support? What audio player software did you use to test? What file types and resolutions did you use to test? Can you apply filters? What are the tech specs of the amp and dac? How does this compare to true audiophile cellphones like the LG V30? Does the cellphone audio circuit get around the limitations of the native Android audio API?
I owned 2 Xperia flagship Smartphones both of them produced great clarity in terms of audio through Headphones but what they lacked is Loudness and The power to drive High Impedance Headphones....They really sounded very tiny in terms of Volume level...Hope this is taken care in Xperia 1 iii Unless a phone has an inbuilt DAC like LG or ROG 5 does it can't be called as an audiophile smartphone
Josh doing phone reviews now whatttt? I have my Xperia 1 mark III and it's amazing I love it. Jumped off the apple bus 2 years ago and haven't looked back.
I've been using various Sony Xperias for years. Great hardware and proprietary software. but I can't use mine for video, the camera always overheats. I use now oneplus 7pro McLaren edition. I also got an iPhone 12 Promax even though I hate Apple. I would buy Sony again if they can make a phone that doesn't overheat.
I just "upgraded" from the SHP-9500s and got a pair of the Massdrop Sennheiser 58x's and maaaaan when I tell you that bass note in the intro hit different. I had to replay it a couple times to soak it in!
I love front facing stereo speakers. I have a Pixel 3 XL now and though it's in mint condition, sounds good and has a great screen. My battery life is waning as time goes on. Also I'm stuck with android 12, but that's not horrible. I'd like to upgrade to the mark 3, but I hate buying used and new they're still outside my budget. The Sony has the same screen layout like Pixel that I like. And the front facing stereo speakers truly draw me, but I paid under 3 hundred new for my 3 XL, and it has almost all the features of the sony. High resolution screen, top processor, for its time, and those speakers. So I find it hard to justify almost 700 for a 3 year old phone. Anyway, thanks for the review. Tells me a lot. 👍
I use jet audio plus on my sony xz premium. More volume better bass/treble/xtra bass etc. In combination with sony sbh24 and sony mdr-xb75 you feel the bass in youre foots. 5hz-40000 khz sound. Even on max bass the quality is very very good. I got an clip on my page.
What about the microphone? How is the quality? Does it has a dedicated recording app? Are we able to record on high resolution (.wav), are wr able to adjust some settings such as the incoming input to avoid any peaks etc.. ? This was one of the very cool features on the LG phones and as far I know no other phones offer this type of microphone apps unfortunately, but I would love to hear that Sony actually does!
The battery life is a big turn off. That 4k 120hz kinda works against it. The screens too small for it to really matter and it absolutely kills that big battery they put in it. Plus the processor benchmarks struggle against a 700$ iphone 12? Not even the Iphone 13, like years old models of iphones it struggles to compete against. I love my 550$ dunu sa6 but the 10$ dongle works fine. Sounds almost identical to a 2000$ desktop setup when I plug in with 4.4. Maybe if you wanted to bring open backs out in public it would be a good option but I'm just struggling to see the value for iems. Though that's just my use case for casual listening at work and during transit. Plus the reports of overheating with youtube and other casual browsing use seems concerning. Snapdragons are cool but they aren't implemented well here. Androids still have the easy EQ advantage vs the app store though. The camera also seems like a decent reason to splurge, but the video definitely goes to apple from what I can tell.
Loved the review but for many here saying "this phone is too expensive", a good alternative is the ASUS ROG Phone 5. Compared to my old LG V40, the ASUS sounds better and has more power too. I can run my Sennheiser HD560S on it with a lot of power to spare. It makes my Argon Mk3s decent volume altho not quite high enough but hey, they`re Argons lol. I`d say my phone gets to about 85-90% of what I would consider the ideal listening volume on my Argons, I think that`s pretty impressive for a phone. And I got mine for only $650 before taxes on Ebay. It even has LDAC in it too. Currently using it with the new Song XM4 wireless earbuds. As a phone it has some great features like the sony like not having a hole punch camera in the screen, a 144hz refresh rate, great stereo speakers for a phone, and a monster of a battery at 6,000 milliamps. Would love to see you compare the 2 phones Josh!
I am surprised you did not do this for the various quad dac , hi ohm amp, sd card, hi res layered manual gain control stereo recording app, LG Flagship phones over the years, they use to come with tidal, aptxhd, LDAC, for bluetooth, falc wav 32 bit 384 support, MQA, etc.. I have the LG V60, which I use with the USB audiophile appSony actually for a time took their headphone jack away, but now have brung it back and are one of the only ones still to have one. But then again when it comes to phone LG was always the one that got no respect even though they were the first all touch all screen smartphone, long before the iphone, and had bluetooth and downloadable apps, at the start that took a second iphone to do. They like sony head bluetooth wireless headphone before Apple, and their own headphones, and bluetooth speakers. Now they are know for OLED TV's and appliances.
Glad to see Sony devices getting out for reviews. That have been hidden gems for those in the know for a few years. In Canada we had to import them as no carriers would even consider them and Sony North America basically just forgot about Canada. Thank for the review Josh.
congratulations for the review, I currently have an Xperia 5 ii and I am very satisfied, I connect it with the cable to the Sony MDR-100 ABN headphones, which have 40mm HD driver units. I feel good. Also I have headphones from the WF 1000 XM3 series, with great sound, and also the recent WF 1000 XM4 which have a better fit.
☆☆☆☆ Never owned Xperia phones before , going by positive reviews I would like to give it a try by ordering Xperia 1 IV which is currently on the pipelines. Inclusion of following will persuades me to switch from Samsung to SONY, ☆ integration/incorporation of SD slot expandable memory, ☆Headphone Jack, to edit or insertion of sound tracks into video also using proper headphones instead of gimmicky bluetooth ones. ☆Sony Apps and 70-105mm telephoto. 🔥 I hope SONY incorporates Variable apature & a Bigger sensor ( closer to 1 inch) Or a set of faster lenses to help in low light situations, these would certainly blow all other competitions out of water and hopefully Sony would takes the Crown in smart phones.
The main issue with Sony Xperia 3 is that Sony has conflicting interests. They have their own DAPs and for that reason, won't include the same chips or work that LG did on their phones. It is unlikely for Sony to offer the same and other companies don't bother to care about the details of audio (they will throw the DAC on there but they won't optimize it at all). It was a good review but it's a reminder of what we lost with LG.
This was a great perspective on phones reviews. I think more phone reviewers should put an emphasis on the headphone amp quality. And when a phone doesnt have a headphone jack, it should get an automatic thumbs down.
The Xperia 5 III is now less expensive than ever. You get a SD card slot, a real 3.5 jack and a much newer, fast, current version of Android for about $650 US New in box. Unless you really need the other jacks this seems a way better deal than most dedicated DAPs, and it has a good camera, a great screen and solid battery life to boot. I’m likely to get one just to use on Wi-Fi to sync my Plex library to the SD card and stream Qobuz.
I think it beats the purpose of the phone audio quality by turning off the spatial and dolby atmos. They are there to improve the sound quality, if it's off, you better off getting a normal cheaper phone. At least try to describe how you feel when its on. C'mon man, you are not making any sense at all. It's like turning off dolby atmos on a soundbar when you are looking for a high quality dolby atmos/surround soundbar. You have to appreciate that it's there.
Sony is on absolute fire. It is obvious by now that my XZ2c is never gonna let go of me, which is great because of the 960fps gimmick. However I will finally upgrade to 1iii. Once you go Sony there's no coming back.
I'll buy the phone FOR the headphone jack and high-end built-in DAC (not to mention the MicroSD Card slot), not the other way around. That said, this phone just happens to already tick almost all the boxes for me for everything I asked for. So, yeah! The only area that could use improvement, is the superuser-friendliness. When you're producing a smartphone for a pro user (a single device for pro users across different fields of pro-ism; i,e. photography, audio, video consumption, gaming.. etc.), you'd expect that rooting/superuser area to be more lenient and friendlier, than it currently is. No need to follow Samsung in that regard, be your own self as you already did with this device, Sony!
I like that with all the releases of the Sony Xperia 1 line they have always offered a set of headphones with them. They've always been Bluetooth, but that's still rad. You get the MX3's with these. Though I am positive that it is just an incentive for us, and a way for them to push out extra stock of those since the MX4s are here. Also a massive amount of CoD Mobile points for whoever likes that.
I just received the Xperia 1 Mk. IV and I don’t have much of an IE device; just some planars like the Sundara., and I’m very much underwhelmed with the Sony. My iPhone 13 with dongle can at least drive the Sundara ‘somewhat’ but the Xperia, no way. Also the onboard loudspeakers are worthless. From an audio point of view, I really don’t understand what all the hype is about…
Can you make a video about ultra budget headphones/IEMs? I'm interested in your personal picks for those like me in third world countries. Stay healthy and cheers from Philippines!
cant rly recommend the blon bl03 enough. ive only had 2 iems but i have other higher end over ears and i still enjoy them whenever i use them for out and about.
I've been a Samsung Note fanboy since note 4 (2014) But the new models don't have a 3.5 anymore 😭 and I hate dongles with grate passion! So this phone is probably my next step. But I'll wait 1 year for the price drop ;)
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Fingers crossed for Sony to pickup the slack from what LG left behind.
Asus already started doing so with the Zenfone 8.
Most of places LG had good sales, sony is no longer there.
@@ziyadfouzan5502 is it as good as LG though? Because im really eyeing that phone.
@@evilkamatis542 I can't give you a definitive answer as I am waiting for my current phone to give me a reason to replace it with the Zenfone.
However, if the DAC implementation is as good as the dongle that came with my Asus Zenbook (laptop) which I use on a daily basis, it should be more than great!
They already have been at LG's level for years. Xperias have had Hi-Res for about 5 years now.
I remember Juan Bagnell was saying something along the lines "we have an increasing interest in lossless, yet companies are taking away the most accessible way to enjoy lossless" which i totally agree. Props to Sony for keeping the headphone jack
Juan bagnell is the only good phone reviewer left tbh
@Luis Lopez Flossy is hilarious but he's not an in-depth technical reviewer.
He's a mainstream reviewer just like MKBHD.
Lookout MKBHD, here comes Josh with the phone reviews. 😅
That guy reviews the phones like he is talking to 5 year old kids lol
@@The-Heart-Will-Testify True that!
I don't know about you guys. But I'm very interested in this phone for its 3.5 headphone jack to replace my LG V60. And surprisingly, no one even talks about its performance against the high end headphones, every reviewer just said 'well it got the headphone jack' and that's it.
@@CwanYo because they just tell the truth.If you are using DAP for music playback, I think you won't have this question, besides sony still run its own walkman series, you can check out what is wm1a, wm1z looks like.
@@oyajixiami3700 but thats not a review if you dont do deep dive to every corner that phone has
Excellent video, I'm by no means an audiophile, but too many people just write off the 3.5mm without going into how it sounds. It would have been great if you included a little bit about the front facing speakers though
Probably because most people use cheap headphones. Look at most people who use wired headphones, they only purchase maybe $50 on wired headphones but are willing to spend $100 maybe $200 on wireless
@@paulzz81 And how many people do you think know about that? Most people just either just use the pack in IEMs or go to some brand like Sony, apple, or skull candy to get headphones
@@crestofhonor2349 I'd say more and more every single day. But you're right, mainstream is not audiophile focused. Recent moves by Apple and Spotify are mostly inconsequential for us. Look at Amazon Music HD, it sucks.
I use streaming flac files from Tidal into my home setup. I also have my own hires local files library.
That's what bugs me, people are willing to spend more than twice as much for TWS buds (XM4 is kinda worth it tho) just for "convenience" while sound which is the main purpose a headphone/earphones/buds serves goes out the window!!
I'd rather have a decent IEM or something like a HD58X instead. But the problem is that 3.5mm jacks are becoming rarer by the day & even the ones that do have it don't match up to LG!
@@paulzz81 any tips on how to/where from download hi-res FLAC files??
I don't have any equipment to appreciate those yet but would certainly like to start building a library of songs for when I do own a decent pair of cans or IEMs (I'm saving for the HD58X so that I can use them with my phone as well). I've started noting down the songs Joshua uses in his vids apart from the ones I already know (like Mountains or The Mole-basically Hans stuff)
The bass in the intro everyone's talking about is barely noticeable on my earphones unless I crank the volume up and then Josh starts talking. I also want to xp such powerful bass (obv not the Beats kind)
As a proud owner of an Xperia 5 II, I'm glad you are giving these amazing phones the recognition they deserve!
Same here truly underrated! Cheers 🥂
I have the Xperia 5ii now too for a bit more than 2 months. Amazing phone ❤️
I have moved to xperia 5ii from LG V50 and V30 and unfortunately I does lack the power to drive my DT990/770 Pros 250 version.
So thats a downgrade, no problem if using something less power demanding. The rest is perfect.
The heavy bass in the beginning of the video man
yeah what in the fuck... its a test for the audiophiles if they notice :D i only have mmx 300 gen 2. but goddamn they vibrate hard
Ikr, its a wooping low bass. my ears were rumbling.
@@handlmycck Bruh, KZ ZSN pro X here lol
@@monochrome_linux nice one, i have zs 10 pro's also lol
@@handlmycck 🙌️
I own the Xperia 5 ii and i love this phone especially the headphone jack. Download USB audio player pro which you can download hi res music and select Hi Res dac in settings and it sounds better than Master Quality Tidal imo
USBAPP is the best thing that has been invented for portable audio. 👍🏻
@@carlosturciosolivera1899 Agreed honestly impressive for on the go listening
Already preordered. This phone was my birthday present to myself. I'll be interested to see how the 3.5 jack performs with my MDR-Z1Rs ;-)
Pleeeeaseeee let us know how it will fit with Z1R , because i also have MDR-Z1R but was thinking to get 5 III or 1 III , thanks
add a dac.. dragonfly or helm,, you'll be very surprised
@@scottygdaman thanks for the reply scott , i've been using audiophile stuff for about 15 years , i have plenty of dac's such as hugo 2 , pro idsd , wm1a , dg red and cobalt , cambridge and some fiio dac , ifi zen series and some other , the thing is i just enjoy using sony products , soundwise i usually pair my z1r with hugo 2 or pro idsd + pro ican combo or wm1a sometimes i enjoy using also with dx160 2020 which also has nice neutral tuning
8 days left!!
The jack performs very badly indeed, i have this phone. The quality is good, but it has pitiful driving power! My iPhone 6s with a dongle dac is about 20% louder than my Xperia 1 ii….
With LG out of the market it's good that Sony is coming back. They're not treating the headphone jack in the same way, but it's good to see it nonetheless.
I dont think xperia 1 III is near close to quadDAC LG's :( my v60 runs headphones up to 200 ohms. But xperia 1 III is the only 888 soc this year with decent 3.5mm
All of the Xperia 1 phones have been really really good. Sony would get back on top of the Android market if they would get back in with Carriers. Problem is most people don't go outside of their carrier to buy a phone, unless they are going to the used market.
That being said, if Sony really went for it with an Audiophile version of the Xperia 1 device with a really good Amp/DAC. They could really get in there.
@@1192807 You might be able to get it to tackle more demanding headphones. My LG V40 has no problem powering my 300 ohms HD 6XX headphones.
man LG had soo much bloatware and useless stock apps that were soo clunky, so it's nice to have Sony looking into all the refinements we want and need. Sony seems to offer as much tech as possible in their devices so I hope their phone category BLOWS UP, and that turns to R&D. Also Sony develop technology and are market leaders in certain categories. Apple for example only make the chips from ARM, that's it. Sony would use that market share/position far better, so exciting times!
I think the Xperia 5 III has the same audio jack and features. And it's cheaper! Hope they release it soon!
Nice review!
Yep 5 III is more of a manageable size & has much better battery life since it doesn't include the unnecessary 4k screen, maybe Sony should choose 3440*1440 next time instead
I wonder if Xperia 10 III also features same DAC & AMP? Do you have information about that?
@@intensifiedhipster I highly doubt it'd be the exact same. If you are looking for a good sound output u can takea look at the Zenfone 8, but you need to live with the 888
the three models have it if I'm not wrong mostly differences between models it's in the size, camera, screen and some components but I remember they mentioned everything else was the same
@@sushimshah2896 the Snapdragon 888 is the current gen flagship chipset so what's the issue?
This has been my exact question, especially since LG is no longer on the business of making high quality DAC containing phones. Thanks Joshua!
I love ny LG V50 but as long as Android resample to 48khz where is the sense? Even playing through usb c I can’t play amazon music in hi res. And I say 99.9% of users can‘t here the different.
@@DieTabbi if you have the 3.5mm jack then I dont think the Android resampling issue effects the output
Hi guys in case it helps going through USB completely bypasses the 48Khz Android limitation noted above. That's only a Bluetooth cap for Android (which still sucks for Bluetooth but I'm glad it only is an issue for BT)
Asus ROG 5 has a good DAC system for earphones/headphones too.
They never once created an high quality dac, wasted my money on lg g5, g6, v20 and last v50. Sound was just meh. Fiio btr5 sounded more full and even better than those phones, i guess they really just phone who have 3.5mm who sounded a little better on iphone and other androids. Just a little bit tho. The only saving grace on lg dac phones was it can run my hd6xx and max volume for my arya 😂
really gonna miss LG once my V60 goes out. i heard Asus is picking up the spot LG left, but i haven't looked into it.
rog phone 5 has some audiophile features
Asus rog 5 has ESS Sabre ES9280AC Pro with hyperstream II quad dac + 2vrms amp
The new ROG phone has a high quality headphone dac
Zenfone 8 has a good 32bit DAC too.
The problem with these companies is that they don't optimize the chips that they have. There are plenty of DAPs (or phones) that have the exact same chips that the LG phones had in their "quad DAC" but all of them do poorly in comparison (particularly the cheap Chinese ones). Just plastering a chip on there and just advertising that isn't good enough, it needs to have partnerships with professional companies to optimize and tune it. There are entire departments focused on this. It's what LG did for years with Meridian and Bang & Olufsen being involved in the process.
I miss my LG V30 but now I'm pretty satisfied with my Xperia 1 II
I loved my V40 alot, but then after plugging in my Lotoo PAW S1 DAC/AMP Dongle I must say, it blew away the V40 in almost every sound quality area, except practicality ^^
How would you say they compare in terms of sound quality?
@@TigerGreene I love good audio but I'm no audiophile and it's entirely possible that it's all in my head from more marketing of the dac but I think my V30 sounded better, also was slightly better at powering higher impedance headphones (my Senn Drop HD 6xx), and allowed for a little more customization
Still plenty happy with my Sony however, as a phone I prefer it over the LG but both are great
Woohooo.... Yess, xperia baby...!!! As someone who own mk-II I'm on tears 😭😭
As a v40 user this phone is where all my attention is.
How do you think it compares to the Quad DAC setup on the LG V50/V60?
Yes
Still have heard anything, even remotely, as good from a phone as LG V series deliver. LG V30 rives my HD800, Hifiman Ananda etc flawlessly.
ananda? wow! didn't know it could drive planars. I'm rocking the V50 right now with HD58x and MSR7 and I'm looking to buy sundara soon.
@@jjcornelio7741 Yeah it can, also my Audeze SINE.
The Ananda are really easy to drive though. Easier than the HD800
My lg g8x and HD 58x daily stress reliever
@@jjcornelio7741 the ananda can be driven off basically anything, and even has a Bluetooth version lol
Still have my LG v60 great dac.
Do you know how the V60 fared against the Sony Xperia 1 II, Samsung S20 Ultra, or other flagship phones that came out the same year? (I imagine not many comparisons were made against 2021 phones)
@@TigerGreene would be interested too with S10 plus too...sadly most website do not test the audio jack anymore.
Xperia 1 II was not really better for me
@@TigerGreene sending this from my V60, I can confirm that it beats the shit out of all of those phones you mentioned when it comes to audio, cameras are amazing too, overall a very enjoyable phone, ngl
@@Danbo0644 just curious cauz I don't know much about these as audio stuffs. When it comes to audio quality, can zenphone 8 compete with Lg v60 and sony Xperia 1 iii. I'm planning on getting zenphone 8.
@@aungjee depends on what your needs are, if you need a phone that can drive very high impedance headphones, V60 is the way to go, the quad DAC makes a huge difference, but if you're only going to use low impedance headphones, you should be fine with the 1 III or the Zenphone 8
Sony phones are criminally underrated.
I picked up Xperia 1 II a while back. I'm am loving the 21:9 aspect ratio, 4K OLED HDR is just so damn amazing.
the aspect ratio is garbage, I have it, it squashes reddit content to about half the size of an iphone. awful
Nothing is better than 16:9
This phone arrived yesterday and I'm in love with mobile phones again. I had a Galaxy S10 and it was just so Toyota Camry, phone feels amazing and now I have to order a pair of ie900s. Love your work Joshua thank you for producing such high quality videos that are such a pleasure to watch!!!
Sony makes amazing headphones. I highly recommend you check out/review the MDR-1AM2. Probably one of the best and most underrated closed back headphones on the market imo.
@@onielsplants1785 does balanced really make a difference? They're already super loud and sensitive without balanced amps, so I doubt they'd benefit from the added power
@@ThePCForever no idea, it's likely the dac in general that makes a difference. But I will say Im not a fan of the headphones directly plugged into my phone/laptop. They truly sound much better in the zen dac. Much brighter and tighter low end. I just use the balanced because the option is there!
What is the sound signature of them? If they have a neutral sound signature, I might consider them.
Another amazing nugget I can’t afford
Found the dankpods fan yeahhh
Your nuggets will do just fine. One thing DankPods has shown me is to appreciate the nuggs I have.
U can try xperia 5iii
True... Way too expensive.. I'm a great SE and xperia fan... But sadly this is too expensive! And when we will be able to buy it.. After some years.. Than.. No more updates.. So. It's a no go now and... Later. Sadly
btw: The Xperia 1 II has the same Jack/DAC/Amp as the III but should be in general way cheaper due to being 1 year on the market. Also i'd recommend the Sony Music Center App cause there is a setting to use direct output of the phone which further improves the sound quality (but only works for local music).
just tried it. The sound seems a tad bit more smooth and laid back
Yessssss. Finally someone's talks about audio when 90% of people use phones for audio this days and most companies going backwards this days.
@E. O. what?. I did not understood that
omg the sub bass of that intro
Same my IRIS Wells where boomy wauw
That caught me off guard lmao 😂
Correctly rocking the xz2 premium, and got this sony iii preordered. Looking forward to it.
I have the sony xperia xz3 and I got the sony 1 iii pre-ordered!
Sony next phone just use ESS ES9281PRO DAC and a really good amp like the one LG uses but try to up ante over those V series phones and you got a winner. The DAC is what holding this back from being a true all in 1 audiophile device.
No phone can touch the lg v series phones when it comes to audio. My v40 is exceptional sounding device
ROG Phone 5
"Terrific bass" very clean on my blon bl-03. This is best intro I ever saw❤️❤️❤️
Bro try the KZ S10 pro and let me know how it is compared to your BL 03
Jack on the top of the phone, not for my back pockets pens, neither using it in public transports with the cable pointing to others.
Keeping my LG V20.
I have a LG V40 and as you know it has a HiFi Quad Dad which was why I chose it. What do you think about the Xperia 1iii comapring to LG? Is LG headphone jack still better than this phone ? Or what you do you think between the two? Thanks 🙂
Would love to get your take on an LG phone. Used and older models can make an excellent DAP.
Man the bass at the intro is still ringing in my head
I have the Xperia 5 II & it's a great phone but I actually bought the Sony Walkman a105 a few years ago for dedicated mobile music listening (like in the gym) & found its way better tbh.
Maybe the audio quality is negligible because it's all pretty great now, but the ease of use of a small device with physical buttons Vs a big ass phone with touch screen is noticeable
Isn't the 5 II meant to be relatively compact?
@@youtubeairways8646 meant to be yeah, but all these phones are big tbh, especially compared to that A105.
For the gym, the a105 just goes in my pocket and I almost forget it's there, but a phone... Hell nah, phones are super noticeable in shallower pockets, plus they're heavier, too much hassle
@@WildfireX I see. I'm not far off the polar-opposite of a gym goer (imagine paying to do intense exercise, capitalism right), I wouldn't know xD.
But I am an Xperia user, so I have some sympathy for you.
Thanks for the comment, that's good to know. I always wondered what benefit a dedicated music player offered, when we have pretty advanced smartphones.
Please review the last great audiophile phone the LG V60, with some proper headphones that need power, and earbuds, bluetooth aptxhd, ldac, tidal, mqa, usbaudio app, and wired and the hf stereo recording app.
Thanks, that would make for a great send off.
@E. O. A little harsh I would say, basically its nothing but a lock out scheme, if you want to hear in the higher bit depth and frequency, you have to pay up, it adds nothing to the music, but it locks out the higher quality from those that do not pay up.
so it's a profit making machine, and many people love it and pay for it, because on some platforms like Tidal that is the only way to unlock the higher resolution files, it dopes not make them worse or better, it just empties your pockets.
having said that the software versions are cheap in many cases $4 and that's it, or if your device already has the MQA unlocking feature cool, and of course hackers get around it.
Unfortunately with software many companies are doing this, for instance Tesla has self driving features that are locked already on the car, you own, but will only unlock them if you pay.
Many cpu's and gpu's are actually the same as the next model up, but hardware or software disabled from running like that top model.
That is the new profit model along with renting by subscription, or buying a game, but then to get the features you want you have to pay up, so that app store game for free, can end up costing well over a hundred dollars.
Could you turn this review into a series please. All the other phone reviewers are obsessed with the camera and rarely even mention audio. There are other phones out with 3.5mm headphone sockets and I would like to know how they stack up. We will never get better phone audio unless some attention is drawn to it by influential reviewers. Thanks
Great review from an audiphile's perspective but there's one problem, you should've used the Sony's stock music player (like a normal person does) instead of using a subscription based third party app
All I'd like to know is how does it compares to the LG V series? I have a v50 and was planning to keep it as a dedicated music device since the company phone department is dead.
I have lg v30, lgv50 and Sony Xperia 1ii. I use etymotic er4xr and er4sr. My conclusion is no fight, lg still beats Sony hands down. You can easily tell from the first 10 seconds that the lg quad dac and op amp creates a volume of air for all the details in the recording to be heard. Compared against the lg, Sony Xperia sounded very flat to me. On less than stellar earphones, Sony sound good enough but no way they can replace dedicated dacs like what the lg was able to do for me. I still keep my lg for music listening.
@@koalabear5286 how is your LG phone doing with the latest updates??? They messed up the DAC???
I just got it, it's so amazing, snappy and clean. Very classy phone. I think I will finally ditch my iPhone for this, it's so good!!
Doesn't overheat, battery is very well managed, screen is just out of this world and the form factor makes it a breeze to use (though keyboard is big so I don't miss a key!). The form factor also allows for more content when scrolling on twitter/facebook etc.
Camera is good, I don't understand the hate. You do need to understand some photography theory though, but the auto is also good enough. Everything looks natural which is why I was seeking to leave Apple, following latest iPhone releases. I'm not here to take photos of pitch dark scenes that don't even inspire me to photograph in the first place. I have proper long exposure if I wanted to get impressed. But real world, I want dark pics, as dark as my eyes can see. Look back at old pictures and see how many times you clench your teeth at badly AI modified pics of your precious memories, I hate that.
Ahh I love this phone, I'm keeping it. Gaming btw is fantastic too.
I still have it 👹
Thank you so much for this. I think we all need to know where to go after LG got out of the game.
Sony did this +5years in their xperia now
Would you consider posting a list of the songs you use to test headphones or is that like a trade secret lol
I’ve listened to a lot of the songs you bring up in your videos and they are always excellent, it would be really cool to have an easy way to see all of them!
Awesome video Joshua! Glad Sony found the right guy for the video.
I picked up the Asus ROG 5 phone, it has an "Audiophile quality ESS Sabre quad DAC" (quote), don't know how it compares to the Sony, but it rocks. It also has the jack on the bottom, which I prefer.
Hey, do you have any problems with the phone? I've heard that they have some motherboard issues
@@anandafitriananshary3312 If you're refering to the Asus, I've had no problems.
if you want headphone out: either this or go mid/ budget range.
oh how I hate apple for making this the norm.
About the Sony H/O performance on itself, I always thought that the tonality of Sony built in amp to be quite well done, its pretty clean as well, it's just that people like to bash on it as mediocre because of all the extra power the LG phones used to provide.
while in actuality, I never actually think the H/O out of them to be that stellar, especially when I only drive IEM out of my phones these days.
so really Xperia 1/5 all the way for me.
I've just ordered a 5 bucks iem and TH-cam immediately recommended this channel. I don't know what TH-cam tried to say.
How was this an audiophile review? What is the DAC that it uses? What technology is behind the DAC? What file types and rates does it support? What audio player software did you use to test? What file types and resolutions did you use to test? Can you apply filters? What are the tech specs of the amp and dac? How does this compare to true audiophile cellphones like the LG V30? Does the cellphone audio circuit get around the limitations of the native Android audio API?
Thanks Josh, yeah that phone is quite interesting indeed.
Please do a video on LG V30 dap its still a great phone and a steal to buy right now with its amazing Quad dac
Hi Joshua. Your work is amazing. Mind comparing this with the LG V30 /V40?
Thanks for your review, I am about to buy the lg v50. Any advice?
I wish they put the headphone jack on bottom instead of top, top is kinda a awkward position especially when you try to put your phone in your pocket
The DSEE feature is something that’s on all their audiophile gear; ZX507 Walkman, TA-ZH1ES Amplifier etc, so it’s not a surprise to see it here
Xperia have the Ultimate version.
Not even Walkman has it , just HX or Extreme.
@@silva_br1 DSEE Ultimate is on the ZX507 and A105 as of software release v3.00
How does it compare to the LG V phones with their quad dac?
I owned 2 Xperia flagship Smartphones both of them produced great clarity in terms of audio through Headphones but what they lacked is Loudness and The power to drive High Impedance Headphones....They really sounded very tiny in terms of Volume level...Hope this is taken care in Xperia 1 iii
Unless a phone has an inbuilt DAC like LG or ROG 5 does it can't be called as an audiophile smartphone
FiiO btr5: 100 bucks don’t need to get a new phone and can drive lots of things
Love the BTR5
Some people can't carry both. People can pay extra for convenience.
if you are carrying a set of IEMs you can definitely carry a small 3 inch device
Josh doing phone reviews now whatttt? I have my Xperia 1 mark III and it's amazing I love it. Jumped off the apple bus 2 years ago and haven't looked back.
Would have liked more info on the internal DAC (e.g. sample rates and bit depths supported).
It's Android. Limited to 16 bit 44.1/48 khz I presume.
LG phones use a dedicated DAC, but Sony uses proprietary software similar to Viper4android. So it's not a successor to LG.
I have been waiting years for someone to make this video! Thanks man.
I've been using various Sony Xperias for years. Great hardware and proprietary software. but I can't use mine for video, the camera always overheats. I use now oneplus 7pro McLaren edition. I also got an iPhone 12 Promax even though I hate Apple. I would buy Sony again if they can make a phone that doesn't overheat.
I just "upgraded" from the SHP-9500s and got a pair of the Massdrop Sennheiser 58x's and maaaaan when I tell you that bass note in the intro hit different. I had to replay it a couple times to soak it in!
I love front facing stereo speakers. I have a Pixel 3 XL now and though it's in mint condition, sounds good and has a great screen. My battery life is waning as time goes on. Also I'm stuck with android 12, but that's not horrible.
I'd like to upgrade to the mark 3, but I hate buying used and new they're still outside my budget.
The Sony has the same screen layout like Pixel that I like. And the front facing stereo speakers truly draw me, but I paid under 3 hundred new for my 3 XL, and it has almost all the features of the sony. High resolution screen, top processor, for its time, and those speakers. So I find it hard to justify almost 700 for a 3 year old phone.
Anyway, thanks for the review. Tells me a lot. 👍
I use jet audio plus on my sony xz premium. More volume better bass/treble/xtra bass etc. In combination with sony sbh24 and sony mdr-xb75 you feel the bass in youre foots. 5hz-40000 khz sound. Even on max bass the quality is very very good. I got an clip on my page.
What about the microphone? How is the quality? Does it has a dedicated recording app? Are we able to record on high resolution (.wav), are wr able to adjust some settings such as the incoming input to avoid any peaks etc.. ?
This was one of the very cool features on the LG phones and as far I know no other phones offer this type of microphone apps unfortunately, but I would love to hear that Sony actually does!
The battery life is a big turn off. That 4k 120hz kinda works against it. The screens too small for it to really matter and it absolutely kills that big battery they put in it. Plus the processor benchmarks struggle against a 700$ iphone 12? Not even the Iphone 13, like years old models of iphones it struggles to compete against. I love my 550$ dunu sa6 but the 10$ dongle works fine. Sounds almost identical to a 2000$ desktop setup when I plug in with 4.4. Maybe if you wanted to bring open backs out in public it would be a good option but I'm just struggling to see the value for iems. Though that's just my use case for casual listening at work and during transit.
Plus the reports of overheating with youtube and other casual browsing use seems concerning. Snapdragons are cool but they aren't implemented well here.
Androids still have the easy EQ advantage vs the app store though. The camera also seems like a decent reason to splurge, but the video definitely goes to apple from what I can tell.
Loved the review but for many here saying "this phone is too expensive", a good alternative is the ASUS ROG Phone 5. Compared to my old LG V40, the ASUS sounds better and has more power too. I can run my Sennheiser HD560S on it with a lot of power to spare. It makes my Argon Mk3s decent volume altho not quite high enough but hey, they`re Argons lol. I`d say my phone gets to about 85-90% of what I would consider the ideal listening volume on my Argons, I think that`s pretty impressive for a phone. And I got mine for only $650 before taxes on Ebay. It even has LDAC in it too. Currently using it with the new Song XM4 wireless earbuds.
As a phone it has some great features like the sony like not having a hole punch camera in the screen, a 144hz refresh rate, great stereo speakers for a phone, and a monster of a battery at 6,000 milliamps.
Would love to see you compare the 2 phones Josh!
The rog 5 and Xperia 1 iii are the only real options for audio atm.
I'm still satisfied with my LG G7+ thinq Hi-Fi Quad DAC❤️🔥
Very compact and well put together video! Thankyou and Great work as always!
I am surprised you did not do this for the various quad dac , hi ohm amp, sd card, hi res layered manual gain control stereo recording app, LG Flagship phones over the years, they use to come with tidal, aptxhd, LDAC, for bluetooth, falc wav 32 bit 384 support, MQA, etc..
I have the LG V60, which I use with the USB audiophile appSony actually for a time took their headphone jack away, but now have brung it back and are one of the only ones still to have one.
But then again when it comes to phone LG was always the one that got no respect even though they were the first all touch all screen smartphone, long before the iphone, and had bluetooth and downloadable apps, at the start that took a second iphone to do.
They like sony head bluetooth wireless headphone before Apple, and their own headphones, and bluetooth speakers.
Now they are know for OLED TV's and appliances.
Very difficult to find a review that gives a clear judgment of audio performance with high-end cabled headphones.
Glad to see Sony devices getting out for reviews. That have been hidden gems for those in the know for a few years. In Canada we had to import them as no carriers would even consider them and Sony North America basically just forgot about Canada. Thank for the review Josh.
man your cinematography is just on point, congrats my man
It looks pretty but it sadly lacks in information.
@@paulzz81 mmmmm, don't know much about audio so can't comment on that
@@agustingiudici8202 i can and I do.
Hey Josh, can you also look at the ROG Phone 5? Would really appreciate your opinion on its DAC and its speaker. 🔥🔥🔥 Love your work man.
You guys know how much impedance the rog phone 5 can run?
I'm also very interested to know 👍
congratulations for the review, I currently have an Xperia 5 ii and I am very satisfied, I connect it with the cable to the Sony MDR-100 ABN headphones, which have 40mm HD driver units. I feel good. Also I have headphones from the WF 1000 XM3 series, with great sound, and also the recent WF 1000 XM4 which have a better fit.
I really appreciate the high production value of these videos.
Wood Kid's new album was featured in Death Stranding this year, great choice👍
☆☆☆☆ Never owned Xperia phones before , going by positive reviews I would like to give it a try by ordering Xperia 1 IV which is currently on the pipelines.
Inclusion of following will persuades me to switch from Samsung to SONY,
☆ integration/incorporation of SD slot expandable memory, ☆Headphone Jack, to edit or insertion of sound tracks into video also using proper headphones instead of gimmicky bluetooth ones.
☆Sony Apps and 70-105mm telephoto.
🔥 I hope SONY incorporates Variable apature & a Bigger sensor ( closer to 1 inch) Or a set of faster lenses to help in low light situations, these would certainly blow all other competitions out of water and hopefully Sony would takes the Crown in smart phones.
The main issue with Sony Xperia 3 is that Sony has conflicting interests. They have their own DAPs and for that reason, won't include the same chips or work that LG did on their phones. It is unlikely for Sony to offer the same and other companies don't bother to care about the details of audio (they will throw the DAC on there but they won't optimize it at all).
It was a good review but it's a reminder of what we lost with LG.
The Video quality is top Notch !! way to go Josh !
Hope you'll test the Z7M2 and see how well the device drive those cans in your review.
This was a great perspective on phones reviews. I think more phone reviewers should put an emphasis on the headphone amp quality. And when a phone doesnt have a headphone jack, it should get an automatic thumbs down.
Great to check on different phones' audio performance!
Please make more of these videos!
the slight bass note in the intro song hits different
Subscribed. Watched few reviews - the content, editing, audio quality super nice. Keep up the great work.
The Xperia 5 III is now less expensive than ever. You get a SD card slot, a real 3.5 jack and a much newer, fast, current version of Android for about $650 US New in box.
Unless you really need the other jacks this seems a way better deal than most dedicated DAPs, and it has a good camera, a great screen and solid battery life to boot.
I’m likely to get one just to use on Wi-Fi to sync my Plex library to the SD card and stream Qobuz.
I really like the opening ..the colours and aesthetics...very goood job..hope the TH-camr sees this
I think it beats the purpose of the phone audio quality by turning off the spatial and dolby atmos.
They are there to improve the sound quality, if it's off, you better off getting a normal cheaper phone.
At least try to describe how you feel when its on.
C'mon man, you are not making any sense at all.
It's like turning off dolby atmos on a soundbar when you are looking for a high quality dolby atmos/surround soundbar.
You have to appreciate that it's there.
Sony is on absolute fire. It is obvious by now that my XZ2c is never gonna let go of me, which is great because of the 960fps gimmick. However I will finally upgrade to 1iii.
Once you go Sony there's no coming back.
I'll buy the phone FOR the headphone jack and high-end built-in DAC (not to mention the MicroSD Card slot), not the other way around. That said, this phone just happens to already tick almost all the boxes for me for everything I asked for. So, yeah!
The only area that could use improvement, is the superuser-friendliness. When you're producing a smartphone for a pro user (a single device for pro users across different fields of pro-ism; i,e. photography, audio, video consumption, gaming.. etc.), you'd expect that rooting/superuser area to be more lenient and friendlier, than it currently is. No need to follow Samsung in that regard, be your own self as you already did with this device, Sony!
The BASS on that intro tho
Xperia 1 mark 3 is the best mobile phone on earth...
I like that with all the releases of the Sony Xperia 1 line they have always offered a set of headphones with them. They've always been Bluetooth, but that's still rad. You get the MX3's with these. Though I am positive that it is just an incentive for us, and a way for them to push out extra stock of those since the MX4s are here.
Also a massive amount of CoD Mobile points for whoever likes that.
Nice to see people doing videos for phone audio. Great stuff.
I just received the Xperia 1 Mk. IV and I don’t have much of an IE device; just some planars like the Sundara., and I’m very much underwhelmed with the Sony. My iPhone 13 with dongle can at least drive the Sundara ‘somewhat’ but the Xperia, no way. Also the onboard loudspeakers are worthless. From an audio point of view, I really don’t understand what all the hype is about…
Josh your channel deserves a mil subscription. Great content
The intro animation was amazing!!!
Can you make a video about ultra budget headphones/IEMs?
I'm interested in your personal picks for those like me in third world countries.
Stay healthy and cheers from Philippines!
zsn pro x seems to be a good option lower down in price
if you're willing to spend more though,tin t2 might be a better option
cant rly recommend the blon bl03 enough. ive only had 2 iems but i have other higher end over ears and i still enjoy them whenever i use them for out and about.
I've heard good things about the QKZ VK4 at 5 to 10 bucks.
To get something better you probably have to step up to the 30$ Blon bl 03
I've been a Samsung Note fanboy since note 4 (2014) But the new models don't have a 3.5 anymore 😭 and I hate dongles with grate passion! So this phone is probably my next step. But I'll wait 1 year for the price drop ;)
You wouldn't regret it. I also went from Samsung to Sony. Only thing I miss is app shortcut in lockscreen
Excellent review. I've watched a lot of your other videos, Josh, and you really know what you're talking about.
Which song was that at the starting 🔥🔥🔥????