You should also remember what happened to their MOBA, Heroes of the Storm. It was a love letter to what Blizzard stood for, and abandoned its players, both proffessional and casual alike. I think the metaphor speaks for itself here.
It would be awesome if you showed the other side of game companies and talked about Deep Rock Galactic's monrtization and how Ghost Ship Games is handling it like masters.
When the company grows, so does the fan base or the so called community. You can’t expect them to listen to everyone of our opinions in Reddit and Twitter. I’m not defending them, but that’s how it works and that’s reality.
Once they reach Blizzard success trust me they will change and become the same, at the end of the day everyone wants more money, the only company that actually is good is rockstar the rest are sellouts
although that's kind of a given because Coffee Stain published Ghost Ship Games' only title, Deep Rock Galactic (the least predatory game released in the 2020s)
I feel bad for all the developers who worked, for who knows how long, on the PvE just for A-B to cancel it outright. That has to be incredibly frustrating for a developer
I wish Macro talked about the Skylanders series for the activision section: That was a cash cow and a half! It played into kids obsession with collecting characters (at least they allowed you to use old figures on new games) and started the whole toys to life craze, which they took advantage of only to stop after the fascination wore off. I remember besides Mario, it was the other thing my cousins and I talked about constantly. I even started a card game with the collectable cards at school
Looking back it was really scummy, but it wasn't completely predatory. It was fun, different, the stories weren't terrible especially for little kids and the designs were so cute, cool and interesting.
Well at least we paid for a real figurine, be ir made of plastic, but we still got something to touch. BP ans paid skins are in game only, so it's worth less.
I am a die hard skylanders fanboy and yeah, looking at it now, it was kind of ridiculous. Things got so insanely overpriced while the games themselves got progressively worse and more boring, I didn’t care or even notice because I was a small child, but looking at it now, it was really bad
@@weakestlifeenjoyer228 I know right!! It was so fun to play even without friends, and now you can’t even find a lobby and there’s so many “micro” transactions it’s unbelievable, I think I’m the only person on earth who liked loot boxes, you’d get 4 things for free, or for money if you bought more, not a singular skin for £20
Bro, the game was awful, then too. The balancing was terrible. The maps were practically non-existent. People only say all this about Jeff Kaplan. Because he was the one that communicated with community. People said the same thing. About david vondahar and jason People said the same thing. About David vondahar and Jason Blundel When they each left When they left treyarch
I can't anymore, I still remember back in late 2016 or early 2017 (I don't remember exactly anymore) when I finally convinced my parents to buy me OW. It was amazing. I loved that game so much back in the day I refused to play anything else. Eventually I began playing other games, obviously, but I always sticked to Overwatch and NEVER deleted it even if I needed to free up space on the disk for some other game. This game really had a special place in my heart. I was actually exited about the idea of overwatch 2 and the PVE. Even when it came out and disapointed a lot of players I was still protecting it. But at this point even I can't ignore this anymore. I tried to justify their actions up until now and I feel so foolish for having faith in them. This just hurts.
@@dddripz I was too optimistic for my own good. I tried to look at the positive changes like grafics update and reducing of shields and CC. I also was one of those people who thought it would all be worth it when the PVE would come out. Looking back I feel nothing but an urge to facepalm myself.
@@isorstho7378 its alright bro, we where are like- that once, cause we just loved the ip’s that we used to protect cause we adore them that much and just wish the best for its growth. So dont feel like a fool pls, the real fools are the one that still are blinded on this fruitless struggle okay my friend? You at least now see the light embracing its truth unlike then other fools who still where like you. Its alright, what matters now is that you are not blinded anymore and that if you truly love an ip, don’t protect its downfall willingly but instead support it when it those good and call out when it those bad
This is literally me I swear, I got ow back at the very beginning of 2017 and I kept being positive that we'll get all we were promised until recently. Now I lost all my trust, I don't want to quit the game because of all the things I got and the memories but if it keeps getting worse I'll have no choice
Yeah i hear the "its free why are you complaining?" argument. but its not, they deleted the game i bought to replace it with the same game but worse. Theres always people defending something no matter how dumb it seems.
@@jaffarfromaladdin8620 not just that people are still throwing money at the company. its hopeless to see any change when you have people enabling them.
@@jaffarfromaladdin8620 can like some hacker not hack into overwatch 2 or something and hold the game hostage untill the devs and management will agree to fix their games and make something good like i have no hope in diablo 4 no matter how many people say that its good they will probably sneak in a battlepass or something like that that will give you legendary items because you cant get them any more from looting enemies
Once Ukraine defeats Russia, companies like Blizzard will face justice because once the everyone sees that you can bring down people bigger than you, it will cause revolution throughout the world
if people don't get why i uninstalled OW. I just send them this video. you speak it all straight from my soul. we should stop to support companies that don't deliver what the fans want.
Once Ukraine defeats Russia, companies like Blizzard will face justice because once the everyone sees that you can bring down people bigger than you, it will cause revolution throughout the world
A bit of a correction There has always been unfinished and bad games, the difference is that due to physical medis being how it is, an unfinished or bad game would get VERY limited copies made as the studio expects low sales, so it was almost hard to find these games Now in the day and age of digital distribution, a bad and unfinished game can get just as much attention as a masterpiece
Games were also a lot simpler back then as well. So a lot of faults went by unnoticed or were just accepted as typical clipping glitches that game with games of the era.
Every game that comes out now has numerous patches added to fix something that's wrong. That something we just have to accept with the complexity of games now.
@@PimpDaddyStyles no. Not at all. Not for the issues we've been seeing that never should make it past playtest. Updates just give them the excuse to skip steps and fix it later.
i don’t know what exactly went wrong, but if a fan base is asking for the devs to add lootboxes *back* into the game, then it’s probably something huge.
I'd say that I hope that Activision shuts down, but the problem lies at the top, not much on the employees. I hate these executives that think they know better than anyone else when I bet they can't even write a basic html file. They should be held accountable for the harm they've done to these games and fired without any benefits.
I've literally been raised on world of warcraft and have played since i was 3 during wrath of the lich king. It makes me so sad to see blizzard end up the way it has. Its like routing for a sports team only for them to lose 0 - 999
I remember a time where games used to come out finished and cool bugs that were discovered were not patched out, but made an integral part of high skill play and the use of those mechanics showed skill
I’m happy that you finally talked about this, it is a big issue in modern gaming that quality is taking a dive. I hope you do well macro and still do fun things.
For anyone who watched this and wondered, "where are the good game, wholesome games/studios?" -Dice/Battlefield 2042 (Non greedy bp system, constantly updated and reworked game despite initial struggle until it became a masterpiece) Ghost Ship Games/Deep Rock Galactic - no monetization except for a seasonal pack of skins, theres an entirely free battlepass that doesnt have FOMO attached since everything is added to a loot pool later. HiRez/Rogue Company - the game is slowing down now, but had the same mechanic of bp rewarding you with another free one if completion, constant updates that werent afraid to experiment, constantly taking feedback from community. Perfect World/Remnant Series- Although From the Ashes is a little older (theres a sequel coming soon) Game is amazing, The devs are a blast, no monetization except for some low-price dlc packed with content. Anyone know any others?
Coffee Stain are the publisher of Deep Rock Galactic, Ghost Ship Games are devs that made the game and keeping updated for the community BF2042 is just joke for BP system, you pay full price of the game and now they want you to pay extra for “cool” cosmetics skins, if they did same BP system like Deep Rock Galactic, it can be a good success
So sad for overwatch players, as a TF2 player(both titanfall 2 and team fortress 2) I at least know that I won't be getting updates. Well Valve does keep up the act of "we didn't say tf2 won't be getting updates" but at least we aren't waiting for something this big. F for all the overwatch players.
I call it the Valve Complex. Once a company realizes that people will still give them money despite lack of quality content, there’s no reason for quality content to be made. Just look at TF2, and now Overwatch.
I saw a funny comment under a post about the decline of Overwatch: “If they touched their games half as much as they touched their women, we’d be getting consistent quality updates”
Man this is why ghostship games is so good you buy a game (deep rock galactic) then litteraly everything in the game is free plus the cosmetic packs that you could buy if you want are realy high quality and the weapon cosmetic packs give you frameworks for all existing and future weapons that would come out in the future
I remember the Christmas( around) when overwatch 2 was announced I asked for money to buy it because I love the lord of the game and I was so hyped. Fast forward I was scrolling through TikTok and found that pve was canceled. Just really hit hard 7:29
StarCraft never did anything wrong. I would say that for the stages I played in, even when they made the game free to play they introduced the funnest and best game mode to date (even if it was uncanonised) and the new monetisation strategy was optional hero purchases which weren’t a “need buy to be good” since they gave plenty of free and viable options, AND they even let you try out a hero before you buy them. What I’m trying to say is, play StarCraft 2. Incredible game with a very high skill ceiling, very very fun.
that's why indie games and indie developers are better than many AAA companies, there is so much more passion put into indie games and they feel like they were made to be an actually good game rather than just a cash grab
No its why gamers are the worse. You know it as well as I that most of the motherfuckers complaining will not hold Blizz accountable. Gamers are the reason why the game industry is so shit.
Even if Indie games have problems, they are still better than major game companies. I don't care whatever the bootlickers of AAA game conpanies say. My opinion stands true
The only difference is that some style of games are pretry much impossible to do/maintain without a big number of employees. MOBAs or Heroe shooters are really hard to do and keep alive for a small team
I dont understand why people just play shooters and mobas, theres a whole market with diferent genres filled with good games that come out every year, but these people just stick to shooters
I couldn’t agree any more. So many indie games like Pizza Tower and Stardew Valley are endless amounts of fun because they don’t stupidly charge any money for in game microtransactions. It’s one fee to download the game and THATS it. In fact, potato PCs can run most indie games really well compared to AAA games
Thank you for sharing a sentiment I've been holding onto for years. I've only gotten into Blizzard's games 7 years ago and I became a fan instantly. Overwatch's release made me die-hard for it and that was the case until the content drought started. I wholeheartedly blame Activision for Blizzard's downfall and I really hope that they detach because their quality of games were second to none for a AAA game company (and it's really sad to say that given the state of mainstream gaming nowadays).
Ooh, sorry. You already have that Talon Baptiste. It got converted into coins equalling 1% of a skin. You can exchange it for a lawsuit if you'd like instead?
Man overwatch was my childhood and I loved that game so much, so you best believe I was pretty excited for overwatch 2 to come out and the campaign was a bonus, but now every time I boot up the game, I get disappointed because of what it used to be and how far it fell, sad times man sad times
This is what happens when a company keeps on moving forward without listening or even trying to understand the opinion of the fanbase that is keeping them popular/afloat. Riot and EA (Respawn) both have a lot of flaws, but when it comes to patching (buffing/nerfing) and adjusting their gameplay to satisfy the general consensus, they do their best to keep everyone happy
You guys should read Bobby Kotic’s interview article, it’s soooo bad. Basically the idiot calls everyone accusing his company of wrongdoing delusional and says they’re conspiring against him while trying to paint himself as a great and stand up guy. I hope that if/when Microsoft buys Activision Blizzard that they immediately kick him out because this cannot continue.
Yo bro, it would be super sick if you could try out the game 'midnight ghost hunt', me and my freinds truly believe it's a 10/10 game with a funny community, but it gets barely any notice. Good video as always
This is why I love capcom and monster hunter. They put so much effort into the games to make sure people can enjoy them even if you might not like them.
But, don't know Monster Hunter but, i'm not sure if that's a fair comparision. Overwatch and CoD are online multiplayer games. Like Fortnite or DOTA (CoD use to have a campaign that nobody plays). Those games requires a solid base of people to play with/against. So they make them free. But requires manteinance, balance, updates, their earnings come from microtransactions today. Starcraft and Diablo are Masterpieces as a "standalone/campaign" games or as a mp games.
@@pabloandrada6558 Yes and no. Monster Hunter can be played online or solo. However its sort of fair as Capcom dont lie to their customers to my knowledge.
@@mr.habits5576 so, it's like Diablo, is that ok? That's ok, i don't recall any promises made by Capcom. But I'm still not buying that "they lie!". It's a business and adult world. Those are simple promises and marketing. But we didn't preorder anything. We didn't pay for a fighting game and suddenly it becomes a racing game. If Capcom anounces "we are working on Darkstalkers" or "Megaman Universe" or "X-Men vs SF remastered" and then the project is cancelled, that's not a lie. We are using words bigger than the issue we're trying to describe.
I feel like this should be actually a crime. Like games can't be sold in a country if it has certain amount of glitches and unfinished stuff it can't be sold there.
Elden Ring didn't shift the industry, Why should ToTK. These humungously successful Games that show that taking your time will reward you with record breaking sales on launch Still don't make the money that a game Like Fortnite did in its prime. Every game company like Activision Blizzard don't care about making a single player game with amazing polish, They want the next fortnite.
THANK YOU! This is why entrepreneurs need to realize why they’re making products and, in this case, games in the first place. Sure, the goal is to gain profit from it, but how do you gain profit? By *SATISFYING* your CUSTOMERS. Not to mention that the CEO of Blizzard, Bobby Kottick recently had his interview since 2012 and basically placed ALL the blame on his EMPLOYEES. Throwing all the accusations, fall of games and absolute disappointment from the fans, all on the employees because big daddy Kottick has an “image” and a “legacy” to protect. Bs.
Hey macro i love youre vids bro theres a chance you wont read this but if you do just wana let you know youre my favorite youtuber love your vids man keep up the good work
Last week, I bought bo3 for the 90$ multiplayer deluxe bundle. Simply for the nostalgia of the great multiplayer experience the game HAD. All I could do for multiplayer was stare at myself waiting in empty lobbies that would never fill up. I have over an hour of playtime without playing a single thing.
Hey macro, I found a really fun game that feels like old cod and is just fun. It’s called iron sight. It’s fast paced, fun, and you always have something to do. It’s futuristic and military themed like bo3 and old mw. Right now it’s not that popular, but I think it should be. Iron sight also has many cool skins and guns that feels great to play with. PLEASE try iron sight and make a video on it so this great game can get recognition.
this makes me so sad. I remember playing overwatch 1. It was great. At one point I had to link an email account to keep playing, so I just made one (because I didn't have a regular one at the time) and never touched it again. then overwatch 2 happened, and at that point the email was deleted, so I just lost all of my skins and progress. now I don't even want to play because of stupid monetization. I'm just so sad this happened, OW1 made my childhood.
My friends and I were already upset with overwatch before the announcement for multiple reasons, then the announcement killed any joy we had left with it.
ActMan actually made an interesting subject about the topic of finished games. It’s not so much they released it finished, but rather there was a time that had no ability to fix whatever problems a game had, when released. So whether a game was good or bad, developers would just move on.
This was addressed perfectly. Another W from a W channel. Ur absolutely right. All gaming companies and games, stuff like that, quality on everything has dropped in media, I think now that stuff has been done so many times, people seem to produce more rushed content. But there are companies like Nintendo and PlayStation that are marketing exclusive, finished games that are truly high quality in story, and make us happy to wait long for a truly successful, finished game that developers put their time and effort into because they care about the project. Tears of the Kingdom and Spider-Man 2 are 5 and 6 years after the original game, but they develop quality content that doesn't disappoint the formed loyal community. A community formed from a successful, masterpiece of content. We have been waiting for just these two games for half a decade, and everyone is still hyped for these games after seeing how much the developers have accomplished. These companies need to learn from their competition to know how to be better. This shows that when we wait as long as we need just to get something we've been waiting for, it will shatter our expectations and we will have a true fun, masterpiece of a game. Every company needs to learn to take their time on something and focus on making the experience fun for players, releasing it should be the last thing on their minds. It's better to have a finished and polished product, so everyone needs to remember QUALITY OVER QUANTITY, take a step back, and reflect on an old lesson. (Dang I really spent time writing this entire comment instead of using the time to work on my English assignment... that's kinda sad...)
Damn Macro you keep saying truth that hurts 😔 I hope this all can be fixed bc I loved the Overwatch One days and COD 2 days but now they’re gone, keep grinding Macro and spread your message.🙏🙂
Not even watched the video, but this thought came to mind upon seeing the Thumbnail Video title: “Activision Blizzard, what went wrong.” The Internet: do you have any idea how LITTLE that narrows it down?
I used to play wow a lot years ago starting around the lich king expansion and I played all the classes but there were two characters I stuck to and still remember 10 years later I played a bloodelf shadow priest named EvilPlankton and a troll monk
I find all this types of videos fascinating to watch because so many of us people can come to common agreements on how big companies are being horribly anti-consumer pushing horrible changes overall. However, most videos fail to dig up into the real root of the problem, which is, this companies are only hungry for money for a reason. It's not as simple as company is greedy, company is bad. Well, sometimes it is, and sure as hell Blizzard's CEO Bobby Kottick is a heck of a greedy individual, but there's usually more to the story behind the scenes. Things like the ESG and stakeholder capitalism, which is slowly but ruthlessly killing every single "big" company in the West. It's sad, and dystopian. We're living in Orwell's 1984.
I just got falesly banned; one email said i will get my account back, the gamemaster that revived my ticket said i WONT get my account back; now THATS communication
Great video. I just hope that fans soon realize it's not worth spending your money on these companies, stop buying new Call of Duty games and stop buying battle passes. Only buy it when they actually put an effort and make the game good.
Great video. It was the original Warcraft and Starcraft that put Blizzard on the map, though. Most don't realize how insanely fun those games are. They were just pure fun. No upsells, no add-ons, just pure fun. I would still recommend those games to newer generations so they can see what the difference is.
I think this is also the reason why I enjoy some Indie titles more than I do big ones sometimes. Don’t get me wrong: HUGE Pokémon, Splatoon and Zelda fan and I like to play Siege and Apex Legends and even sometimes Dark Souls, but there are times when I just want to play smaller stuff. It’s how I found out I like Rougelite games like Enter the Gungeon and Skul The Hero Slayer. Point is, big companies not only need to change their ways but they need to learn from smaller publishers. Maybe then they can learn a thing or two about humility, fun and overall care for their player base instead of just thinking about the money.
Games used to come out unfinished all the time. It's just that unfinished sections get canceled a bit earlier ahead of time and most of time they never get completed. For example, Diablo 2's final act was supposed to be much longer but it was cut short to meet deadlines. Heck, we also look back on a lot of games with rose tinted glasses. Fallout 1 was a buggy mess when it was released. Baldur's Gate 2: Throne of Bhaal was originally supposed to be a full game but they cut it down to an expansion, which is why the story seemed so rushed. Neverwinter Nights, both 1 and 2, had tons of bugs when they were released.
Overwatch was one of the first ever game I bought myself. I love the competitive and beautiful character design. What I even love more was the amazing story. When they started decline the quality of the game for overwatch 2 I was super upset cause that also meant less lore. I held on tight to this game cause they annouced the pve addition and now that we don't have that. I felt lied to and angered cause my favorite game is becoming less and less my favorite.
I starting to like these video essays more and more. Don't get me wrong I love the for noobs series but I definitely want to see more of this type of content!
The real upsetting part is the people defending this saying that pve is still coming but just every 3 months, it’s not even about that, it’s the fact that they new before they released overwatch2 that it wasn’t coming, and they teased us saying that they’ve been working hard on it and it has to be delayed for a year, and when the time came they just said oh btw this thing that we promised and knew was not coming, yeah we canned it, whoops sowy, here’s some free charms and an icon. Sowy
We can all agree that microtransactions is the major thing that ruined modern gaming. Games these days are first built to have battle passes, and then they build the game. That’s why, like it or not, Fortnite is the one that needs to blamed the most too. Generally speaking, from Activision to The Pokémon Company, gaming industries are not treating correctly they’re consumers
Blizzcon 2017 felt like Blizzard's peak. Moira announced for a regularly updated Overwatch, Hanzo and Alexstrasza for HotS, BFA and Warcraft classic announced - Blizzard was firing on all cylinders. Six years later we're playing cashgrab watch 2 which is stripped back Overwatch with no PVE and more focus on its ingame shop and battlepass than balancing, Heroes of the Storm is gone because they couldn't be bothered to sustain the game and keep improving it and WoW is trying to recover from the disaster that was Shadowlands. The worst part of all this is that Activision Blizzard are happy with their work as they've maximised their short term profits before they're acquired by Microsoft who can handle the long term for them.
It sucks growing up with blizz games and year by year see them become more and more of a corporate business that only turns their games into addictive casinos completely unfinished and having less and less of the original dev crew on their team.
As a COD fan, I really hope XDefiant and Shatterline do well to challenge COD! XDefiant is f2p with no SBMM, map voting, true prestige and persistent lobbies! Fuck Activi$ion and their $70 crap! Edit:Shatterline should hit consoles at somepoint according to the devs.
But we still love Tony Hawk
I still love cod bo2
We really do
Yeah me too
Still love BO3.
Bird Man forever
I’ll tell you what went wrong. We gave them money.
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You should also remember what happened to their MOBA, Heroes of the Storm. It was a love letter to what Blizzard stood for, and abandoned its players, both proffessional and casual alike. I think the metaphor speaks for itself here.
It would be awesome if you showed the other side of game companies and talked about Deep Rock Galactic's monrtization and how Ghost Ship Games is handling it like masters.
one of the games
For rock and stone
one of the companies that cared about the game and community, Rock and Stone miner
no man sky is still the apex of shit to peak gaming, how does no one know how to recover in todays world?!?@!?@!?!
This would be a fun topic
This is what happen when companies care more about money rather than making the best they can do
What have video games come to😔
Definition of capitalism
And consumers keep enabling them
You mean, every single company?
Except for Deep Rock, Rock and Stone!
The era of downgrading games, i swear most of the newer games are unfinish but priced at $60 or $70
cough cough jedi survivor
Yeah, it’s because they realized suckers will pay regardless of quality
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@@ziggos9810 I remember that game got hyped up so much but where came out just bad
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Why can't every studios be the same as Coffee Stain, it's truly amazing how they communicate with their community and don't make rash decisions
coffee stain aren’t as big as these companies, it’s a completely different pace
When the company grows, so does the fan base or the so called community. You can’t expect them to listen to everyone of our opinions in Reddit and Twitter. I’m not defending them, but that’s how it works and that’s reality.
Once they reach Blizzard success trust me they will change and become the same, at the end of the day everyone wants more money, the only company that actually is good is rockstar the rest are sellouts
or ghost ship
although that's kind of a given because Coffee Stain published Ghost Ship Games' only title, Deep Rock Galactic (the least predatory game released in the 2020s)
I still miss the feeling I got when I opened up my overwatch game back in 2017 😔 so many memories.. gone
I feel bad for all the developers who worked, for who knows how long, on the PvE just for A-B to cancel it outright. That has to be incredibly frustrating for a developer
Yeah I agree, we waited like 4 years for pve to come out, and it never did because Activision Blizzard decided to cancel it.
I wish Macro talked about the Skylanders series for the activision section: That was a cash cow and a half! It played into kids obsession with collecting characters (at least they allowed you to use old figures on new games) and started the whole toys to life craze, which they took advantage of only to stop after the fascination wore off.
I remember besides Mario, it was the other thing my cousins and I talked about constantly. I even started a card game with the collectable cards at school
Looking back it was really scummy, but it wasn't completely predatory. It was fun, different, the stories weren't terrible especially for little kids and the designs were so cute, cool and interesting.
@@LetMeEatIt Eruptor was awesome! Loved his simple but awesome design
@@LetMeEatIt plus we Got Patrick Warburton as Flynn! BOOM!
Well at least we paid for a real figurine, be ir made of plastic, but we still got something to touch. BP ans paid skins are in game only, so it's worth less.
I am a die hard skylanders fanboy and yeah, looking at it now, it was kind of ridiculous. Things got so insanely overpriced while the games themselves got progressively worse and more boring, I didn’t care or even notice because I was a small child, but looking at it now, it was really bad
We knew it was all over when Jeff Kaplan left Overwatch.
THIS! THS is what went wrong with overwatch!!
When Jeff Kaplan left Blizzard the game became Underwatch
@@urlocalbestie3679 facts. OW used to be the greatest game for fun and making friends, now look at it.
@@weakestlifeenjoyer228 I know right!! It was so fun to play even without friends, and now you can’t even find a lobby and there’s so many “micro” transactions it’s unbelievable, I think I’m the only person on earth who liked loot boxes, you’d get 4 things for free, or for money if you bought more, not a singular skin for £20
Bro, the game was awful, then too. The balancing was terrible. The maps were practically non-existent. People only say all this about Jeff Kaplan. Because he was the one that communicated with community. People said the same thing.
About david vondahar and jason People said the same thing.
About David vondahar and Jason Blundel When they each left When they left treyarch
I can't anymore, I still remember back in late 2016 or early 2017 (I don't remember exactly anymore) when I finally convinced my parents to buy me OW. It was amazing. I loved that game so much back in the day I refused to play anything else. Eventually I began playing other games, obviously, but I always sticked to Overwatch and NEVER deleted it even if I needed to free up space on the disk for some other game. This game really had a special place in my heart. I was actually exited about the idea of overwatch 2 and the PVE. Even when it came out and disapointed a lot of players I was still protecting it. But at this point even I can't ignore this anymore. I tried to justify their actions up until now and I feel so foolish for having faith in them. This just hurts.
Why would you protect a monetization update?
same man, this game really had a downfall.
@@dddripz I was too optimistic for my own good. I tried to look at the positive changes like grafics update and reducing of shields and CC. I also was one of those people who thought it would all be worth it when the PVE would come out. Looking back I feel nothing but an urge to facepalm myself.
@@isorstho7378 its alright bro, we where are like- that once, cause we just loved the ip’s that we used to protect cause we adore them that much and just wish the best for its growth. So dont feel like a fool pls, the real fools are the one that still are blinded on this fruitless struggle okay my friend? You at least now see the light embracing its truth unlike then other fools who still where like you. Its alright, what matters now is that you are not blinded anymore and that if you truly love an ip, don’t protect its downfall willingly but instead support it when it those good and call out when it those bad
This is literally me I swear, I got ow back at the very beginning of 2017 and I kept being positive that we'll get all we were promised until recently. Now I lost all my trust, I don't want to quit the game because of all the things I got and the memories but if it keeps getting worse I'll have no choice
He made a lot of good points. What's sad is that there are people adamantly defending Blizzard still.
Yeah i hear the "its free why are you complaining?" argument. but its not, they deleted the game i bought to replace it with the same game but worse. Theres always people defending something no matter how dumb it seems.
@@jaffarfromaladdin8620 not just that people are still throwing money at the company. its hopeless to see any change when you have people enabling them.
@@jaffarfromaladdin8620 can like some hacker not hack into overwatch 2 or something and hold the game hostage untill the devs and management will agree to fix their games and make something good like i have no hope in diablo 4 no matter how many people say that its good they will probably sneak in a battlepass or something like that that will give you legendary items because you cant get them any more from looting enemies
Once Ukraine defeats Russia, companies like Blizzard will face justice because once the everyone sees that you can bring down people bigger than you, it will cause revolution throughout the world
@@MonalisaS most of those people are from countries like China
if people don't get why i uninstalled OW. I just send them this video. you speak it all straight from my soul. we should stop to support companies that don't deliver what the fans want.
Stop giving them money. Stop playing their games. Thats it. And they will change.
Thats the only thing we can defeat them
No one gonna listen cuz people love pay to win !
Hopefully more will. Everyone i know deleted overwatch after the dev chat. Cant believe they killed overwatch twice
Correct, thats how capitalism works. Vote with your wallet. There are better games out there and you can just do something else if you cant find them.
Once Ukraine defeats Russia, companies like Blizzard will face justice because once the everyone sees that you can bring down people bigger than you, it will cause revolution throughout the world
A bit of a correction
There has always been unfinished and bad games, the difference is that due to physical medis being how it is, an unfinished or bad game would get VERY limited copies made as the studio expects low sales, so it was almost hard to find these games
Now in the day and age of digital distribution, a bad and unfinished game can get just as much attention as a masterpiece
Games were also a lot simpler back then as well. So a lot of faults went by unnoticed or were just accepted as typical clipping glitches that game with games of the era.
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Every game that comes out now has numerous patches added to fix something that's wrong. That something we just have to accept with the complexity of games now.
@@PimpDaddyStyles no. Not at all. Not for the issues we've been seeing that never should make it past playtest. Updates just give them the excuse to skip steps and fix it later.
i don’t know what exactly went wrong, but if a fan base is asking for the devs to add lootboxes *back* into the game, then it’s probably something huge.
I'd say that I hope that Activision shuts down, but the problem lies at the top, not much on the employees.
I hate these executives that think they know better than anyone else when I bet they can't even write a basic html file. They should be held accountable for the harm they've done to these games and fired without any benefits.
I've literally been raised on world of warcraft and have played since i was 3 during wrath of the lich king. It makes me so sad to see blizzard end up the way it has. Its like routing for a sports team only for them to lose 0 - 999
So like being a Browns fan.
yup i still play starcraft sometimes but its sad to see how they have fallen
I remember a time where games used to come out finished and cool bugs that were discovered were not patched out, but made an integral part of high skill play and the use of those mechanics showed skill
When they say money is the root of all evil this is a number 1 case study
When I was a kid in the Warcraft era blizzard was like Disney to me every they put out was magic to me. I hate to see how far they’ve fallen 😢
“Game companies need to take a step back and remember why they made games” ouch, that one hurt and you’re completely right which pains me even more
I’m happy that you finally talked about this, it is a big issue in modern gaming that quality is taking a dive. I hope you do well macro and still do fun things.
For anyone who watched this and wondered, "where are the good game, wholesome games/studios?"
-Dice/Battlefield 2042 (Non greedy bp system, constantly updated and reworked game despite initial struggle until it became a masterpiece)
Ghost Ship Games/Deep Rock Galactic - no monetization except for a seasonal pack of skins, theres an entirely free battlepass that doesnt have FOMO attached since everything is added to a loot pool later.
HiRez/Rogue Company - the game is slowing down now, but had the same mechanic of bp rewarding you with another free one if completion, constant updates that werent afraid to experiment, constantly taking feedback from community.
Perfect World/Remnant Series- Although From the Ashes is a little older (theres a sequel coming soon) Game is amazing, The devs are a blast, no monetization except for some low-price dlc packed with content.
Anyone know any others?
Coffee Stain are the publisher of Deep Rock Galactic, Ghost Ship Games are devs that made the game and keeping updated for the community
BF2042 is just joke for BP system, you pay full price of the game and now they want you to pay extra for “cool” cosmetics skins, if they did same BP system like Deep Rock Galactic, it can be a good success
@drovaa ohh yeah I forgot it was ghost ship games, sorry I'll fix it to give proper credit.
@@phant0mshad0w56 no problem 👍🏻
So sad for overwatch players, as a TF2 player(both titanfall 2 and team fortress 2) I at least know that I won't be getting updates. Well Valve does keep up the act of "we didn't say tf2 won't be getting updates" but at least we aren't waiting for something this big. F for all the overwatch players.
“Does this mean Overwatch is back”
“No no we aren’t”
I call it the Valve Complex. Once a company realizes that people will still give them money despite lack of quality content, there’s no reason for quality content to be made. Just look at TF2, and now Overwatch.
I saw a funny comment under a post about the decline of Overwatch:
“If they touched their games half as much as they touched their women, we’d be getting consistent quality updates”
A company that all labour either left, got fired or in a lawsuit
- dunkey 2022
Man this is why ghostship games is so good you buy a game (deep rock galactic) then litteraly everything in the game is free plus the cosmetic packs that you could buy if you want are realy high quality and the weapon cosmetic packs give you frameworks for all existing and future weapons that would come out in the future
I remember the Christmas( around) when overwatch 2 was announced I asked for money to buy it because I love the lord of the game and I was so hyped. Fast forward I was scrolling through TikTok and found that pve was canceled. Just really hit hard 7:29
2019: we're geting pve? right?
2023: ...
2019: right?
StarCraft never did anything wrong. I would say that for the stages I played in, even when they made the game free to play they introduced the funnest and best game mode to date (even if it was uncanonised) and the new monetisation strategy was optional hero purchases which weren’t a “need buy to be good” since they gave plenty of free and viable options, AND they even let you try out a hero before you buy them. What I’m trying to say is, play StarCraft 2. Incredible game with a very high skill ceiling, very very fun.
that's why indie games and indie developers are better than many AAA companies, there is so much more passion put into indie games and they feel like they were made to be an actually good game rather than just a cash grab
No its why gamers are the worse. You know it as well as I that most of the motherfuckers complaining will not hold Blizz accountable. Gamers are the reason why the game industry is so shit.
Even if Indie games have problems, they are still better than major game companies.
I don't care whatever the bootlickers of AAA game conpanies say. My opinion stands true
The only difference is that some style of games are pretry much impossible to do/maintain without a big number of employees. MOBAs or Heroe shooters are really hard to do and keep alive for a small team
I dont understand why people just play shooters and mobas, theres a whole market with diferent genres filled with good games that come out every year, but these people just stick to shooters
I couldn’t agree any more. So many indie games like Pizza Tower and Stardew Valley are endless amounts of fun because they don’t stupidly charge any money for in game microtransactions. It’s one fee to download the game and THATS it. In fact, potato PCs can run most indie games really well compared to AAA games
That moment when you get a notification telling you that Macro posted! 🥶🥶🐐🐐📈📈
Thank you for sharing a sentiment I've been holding onto for years. I've only gotten into Blizzard's games 7 years ago and I became a fan instantly. Overwatch's release made me die-hard for it and that was the case until the content drought started.
I wholeheartedly blame Activision for Blizzard's downfall and I really hope that they detach because their quality of games were second to none for a AAA game company (and it's really sad to say that given the state of mainstream gaming nowadays).
Yeah, but Bobby kotick is to blame
Ever since devs announced the cancellation of…well, the 2 on OW2, I’ve been waiting to see what Macro has to say about it
Ah yes, my favourite Lootbox!
Lawsuit, Lawsuit, Lawsuit, Talon Baptiste
You forgot Lawsuit
Ooh, sorry. You already have that Talon Baptiste. It got converted into coins equalling 1% of a skin. You can exchange it for a lawsuit if you'd like instead?
"Who would do that ?"
I half expected Tod Howard to show up after that
Great video! Your right video games company’s are going down hill! 😢
Man overwatch was my childhood and I loved that game so much, so you best believe I was pretty excited for overwatch 2 to come out and the campaign was a bonus, but now every time I boot up the game, I get disappointed because of what it used to be and how far it fell, sad times man sad times
This is what happens when a company keeps on moving forward without listening or even trying to understand the opinion of the fanbase that is keeping them popular/afloat.
Riot and EA (Respawn) both have a lot of flaws, but when it comes to patching (buffing/nerfing) and adjusting their gameplay to satisfy the general consensus, they do their best to keep everyone happy
I can always tell you another thing that is a reason a lot of companies failed is live services. I kind of wish Macro talked about this
You guys should read Bobby Kotic’s interview article, it’s soooo bad. Basically the idiot calls everyone accusing his company of wrongdoing delusional and says they’re conspiring against him while trying to paint himself as a great and stand up guy. I hope that if/when Microsoft buys Activision Blizzard that they immediately kick him out because this cannot continue.
He's cosplaying as Trump lmao
Yo bro, it would be super sick if you could try out the game 'midnight ghost hunt', me and my freinds truly believe it's a 10/10 game with a funny community, but it gets barely any notice. Good video as always
This is why I love capcom and monster hunter. They put so much effort into the games to make sure people can enjoy them even if you might not like them.
But, don't know Monster Hunter but, i'm not sure if that's a fair comparision.
Overwatch and CoD are online multiplayer games. Like Fortnite or DOTA (CoD use to have a campaign that nobody plays).
Those games requires a solid base of people to play with/against. So they make them free. But requires manteinance, balance, updates, their earnings come from microtransactions today.
Starcraft and Diablo are Masterpieces as a "standalone/campaign" games or as a mp games.
@@pabloandrada6558 Yes and no. Monster Hunter can be played online or solo. However its sort of fair as Capcom dont lie to their customers to my knowledge.
@@mr.habits5576 so, it's like Diablo, is that ok?
That's ok, i don't recall any promises made by Capcom.
But I'm still not buying that "they lie!".
It's a business and adult world. Those are simple promises and marketing. But we didn't preorder anything. We didn't pay for a fighting game and suddenly it becomes a racing game.
If Capcom anounces "we are working on Darkstalkers" or "Megaman Universe" or "X-Men vs SF remastered" and then the project is cancelled, that's not a lie.
We are using words bigger than the issue we're trying to describe.
I just wish they hadn't reduced Megaman to what it is now. The franchise is a hollowed out husk at this point.
CAPCOM RERemakes series are a joke except RE1R but that one was on the fcking GAMECUBE and back then games were better and finished at least
I feel like this should be actually a crime. Like games can't be sold in a country if it has certain amount of glitches and unfinished stuff it can't be sold there.
Most indie games are polished but they might release in early access to get funding for the rest of the game
Tears of the Kingdom’s success has potential to shift the industry. Nintendo took their time and has had such huge amounts of success.
Elden Ring didn't shift the industry, Why should ToTK.
These humungously successful Games that show that taking your time will reward you with record breaking sales on launch Still don't make the money that a game Like Fortnite did in its prime.
Every game company like Activision Blizzard don't care about making a single player game with amazing polish, They want the next fortnite.
tears of the kingdom is a shitty kid game
you want to play a real Zelda game?
Try twillight princess
then come back
THANK YOU! This is why entrepreneurs need to realize why they’re making products and, in this case, games in the first place. Sure, the goal is to gain profit from it, but how do you gain profit? By *SATISFYING* your CUSTOMERS. Not to mention that the CEO of Blizzard, Bobby Kottick recently had his interview since 2012 and basically placed ALL the blame on his EMPLOYEES. Throwing all the accusations, fall of games and absolute disappointment from the fans, all on the employees because big daddy Kottick has an “image” and a “legacy” to protect. Bs.
Hey macro i love youre vids bro theres a chance you wont read this but if you do just wana let you know youre my favorite youtuber love your vids man keep up the good work
with so many big companies caring more about money than quality zelda tears of the kingdom seems so refreshing
Can’t wait for PVE… said everyone in 2019
A tear fell at 9:20 when he said "put us in space"
Last week, I bought bo3 for the 90$ multiplayer deluxe bundle. Simply for the nostalgia of the great multiplayer experience the game HAD. All I could do for multiplayer was stare at myself waiting in empty lobbies that would never fill up. I have over an hour of playtime without playing a single thing.
That sucks but what compelled you to spend so much money on such an old cod?
Hey macro, I found a really fun game that feels like old cod and is just fun. It’s called iron sight. It’s fast paced, fun, and you always have something to do. It’s futuristic and military themed like bo3 and old mw. Right now it’s not that popular, but I think it should be. Iron sight also has many cool skins and guns that feels great to play with. PLEASE try iron sight and make a video on it so this great game can get recognition.
I hope somewhere in the far future Blizzard will return to it's old self
LOL you can wait for EA to go broke for that to happen !
i am with you in every word you said
can you make a video on bungi and the destiny 2 / marathon drama ?
“Does this mean overwatch is back??”
“No.”
this makes me so sad. I remember playing overwatch 1. It was great. At one point I had to link an email account to keep playing, so I just made one (because I didn't have a regular one at the time) and never touched it again. then overwatch 2 happened, and at that point the email was deleted, so I just lost all of my skins and progress. now I don't even want to play because of stupid monetization.
I'm just so sad this happened, OW1 made my childhood.
My friends and I were already upset with overwatch before the announcement for multiple reasons, then the announcement killed any joy we had left with it.
Really this video brought so much nostalgia and pain at the same time
ActMan actually made an interesting subject about the topic of finished games. It’s not so much they released it finished, but rather there was a time that had no ability to fix whatever problems a game had, when released. So whether a game was good or bad, developers would just move on.
I like how he says that they "Can't do it" and then loop right back around to "Its not in our plans anymore". Translation. "We don't feel like it."
This was addressed perfectly. Another W from a W channel. Ur absolutely right. All gaming companies and games, stuff like that, quality on everything has dropped in media, I think now that stuff has been done so many times, people seem to produce more rushed content. But there are companies like Nintendo and PlayStation that are marketing exclusive, finished games that are truly high quality in story, and make us happy to wait long for a truly successful, finished game that developers put their time and effort into because they care about the project. Tears of the Kingdom and Spider-Man 2 are 5 and 6 years after the original game, but they develop quality content that doesn't disappoint the formed loyal community. A community formed from a successful, masterpiece of content. We have been waiting for just these two games for half a decade, and everyone is still hyped for these games after seeing how much the developers have accomplished. These companies need to learn from their competition to know how to be better. This shows that when we wait as long as we need just to get something we've been waiting for, it will shatter our expectations and we will have a true fun, masterpiece of a game. Every company needs to learn to take their time on something and focus on making the experience fun for players, releasing it should be the last thing on their minds. It's better to have a finished and polished product, so everyone needs to remember QUALITY OVER QUANTITY, take a step back, and reflect on an old lesson. (Dang I really spent time writing this entire comment instead of using the time to work on my English assignment... that's kinda sad...)
Damn Macro you keep saying truth that hurts 😔 I hope this all can be fixed bc I loved the Overwatch One days and COD 2 days but now they’re gone, keep grinding Macro and spread your message.🙏🙂
Not even watched the video, but this thought came to mind upon seeing the Thumbnail
Video title: “Activision Blizzard, what went wrong.”
The Internet: do you have any idea how LITTLE that narrows it down?
I used to play wow a lot years ago starting around the lich king expansion and I played all the classes but there were two characters I stuck to and still remember 10 years later I played a bloodelf shadow priest named EvilPlankton and a troll monk
No company in any industry is going to go back for morality. Disney as a prime example
I find all this types of videos fascinating to watch because so many of us people can come to common agreements on how big companies are being horribly anti-consumer pushing horrible changes overall. However, most videos fail to dig up into the real root of the problem, which is, this companies are only hungry for money for a reason. It's not as simple as company is greedy, company is bad. Well, sometimes it is, and sure as hell Blizzard's CEO Bobby Kottick is a heck of a greedy individual, but there's usually more to the story behind the scenes. Things like the ESG and stakeholder capitalism, which is slowly but ruthlessly killing every single "big" company in the West. It's sad, and dystopian. We're living in Orwell's 1984.
Evem thought this topic is sad its always a good day when macro uploads a new video
I just got falesly banned; one email said i will get my account back, the gamemaster that revived my ticket said i WONT get my account back; now THATS communication
Great video.
I just hope that fans soon realize it's not worth spending your money on these companies, stop buying new Call of Duty games and stop buying battle passes. Only buy it when they actually put an effort and make the game good.
It’s about the root of all evil… money. Games used to be a way to deliver a experience to an audience now it’s just about money.
I love how overwatch isn’t a new game both gameplay wise and physically it was a update to the game, changed the name and the photo into overwatch 2
Im kind of dissappointed that HotS and WC3 Reforged weren't eben mentioned, but still, good video!
Great video. It was the original Warcraft and Starcraft that put Blizzard on the map, though. Most don't realize how insanely fun those games are. They were just pure fun. No upsells, no add-ons, just pure fun. I would still recommend those games to newer generations so they can see what the difference is.
the ben 10 reference was gold
Thank you for making this video. Now I can simply send it to everyone that asks me why I hate Activision Blizzard.
I think this is also the reason why I enjoy some Indie titles more than I do big ones sometimes. Don’t get me wrong: HUGE Pokémon, Splatoon and Zelda fan and I like to play Siege and Apex Legends and even sometimes Dark Souls, but there are times when I just want to play smaller stuff. It’s how I found out I like Rougelite games like Enter the Gungeon and Skul The Hero Slayer. Point is, big companies not only need to change their ways but they need to learn from smaller publishers. Maybe then they can learn a thing or two about humility, fun and overall care for their player base instead of just thinking about the money.
I waited 2 weeks, thank you .please be this consistent and ill subscribe in 50 different accounts
Macro:there was a time where games did not come incomplete
Me an Indie player:BITCH WHERE!?
The first overwatch 2 trailer almost brought me to tears when it came out. it still does but for much much deeper reasons.
Games used to come out unfinished all the time. It's just that unfinished sections get canceled a bit earlier ahead of time and most of time they never get completed. For example, Diablo 2's final act was supposed to be much longer but it was cut short to meet deadlines.
Heck, we also look back on a lot of games with rose tinted glasses. Fallout 1 was a buggy mess when it was released. Baldur's Gate 2: Throne of Bhaal was originally supposed to be a full game but they cut it down to an expansion, which is why the story seemed so rushed. Neverwinter Nights, both 1 and 2, had tons of bugs when they were released.
Watch Activision Blizzard try to take this video down
Overwatch was one of the first ever game I bought myself. I love the competitive and beautiful character design. What I even love more was the amazing story. When they started decline the quality of the game for overwatch 2 I was super upset cause that also meant less lore. I held on tight to this game cause they annouced the pve addition and now that we don't have that. I felt lied to and angered cause my favorite game is becoming less and less my favorite.
It sucks that this happened cause I've always enjoyed Overwatch, I never did get the chance to play it myself. And now this is happening.
Hey bro
I think u r really right
I have been following u for the last 2 years but this was the only time i felt so.... Emotional
I starting to like these video essays more and more. Don't get me wrong I love the for noobs series but I definitely want to see more of this type of content!
Bro I’ve watched the clip of that dev stream so many times i feel like i can recite what he said word for word
Let's just hope that it will someday come under new management. Their IPs and the devs deserve more.
It's a banger of a day when macro uploads on your BIRTHDAY, thanks Homes 🗿🍷
The real upsetting part is the people defending this saying that pve is still coming but just every 3 months, it’s not even about that, it’s the fact that they new before they released overwatch2 that it wasn’t coming, and they teased us saying that they’ve been working hard on it and it has to be delayed for a year, and when the time came they just said oh btw this thing that we promised and knew was not coming, yeah we canned it, whoops sowy, here’s some free charms and an icon. Sowy
These type of videos are really nice recently 👌🏼💕
Everybody remembers World of Warcraft, but nobody remembers Warcraft 1, 2, or 3 😢
You know its bad when macro posts a serious vid
We can all agree that microtransactions is the major thing that ruined modern gaming. Games these days are first built to have battle passes, and then they build the game. That’s why, like it or not, Fortnite is the one that needs to blamed the most too. Generally speaking, from Activision to The Pokémon Company, gaming industries are not treating correctly they’re consumers
Blizzcon 2017 felt like Blizzard's peak. Moira announced for a regularly updated Overwatch, Hanzo and Alexstrasza for HotS, BFA and Warcraft classic announced - Blizzard was firing on all cylinders. Six years later we're playing cashgrab watch 2 which is stripped back Overwatch with no PVE and more focus on its ingame shop and battlepass than balancing, Heroes of the Storm is gone because they couldn't be bothered to sustain the game and keep improving it and WoW is trying to recover from the disaster that was Shadowlands.
The worst part of all this is that Activision Blizzard are happy with their work as they've maximised their short term profits before they're acquired by Microsoft who can handle the long term for them.
It sucks growing up with blizz games and year by year see them become more and more of a corporate business that only turns their games into addictive casinos completely unfinished and having less and less of the original dev crew on their team.
As a COD fan, I really hope XDefiant and Shatterline do well to challenge COD!
XDefiant is f2p with no SBMM, map voting, true prestige and persistent lobbies!
Fuck Activi$ion and their $70 crap!
Edit:Shatterline should hit consoles at somepoint according to the devs.