I save scummed the unity about 30 times to get the universe i wanted with "You?" in it. "You?" Is my favourite companion for an evil playthrough. My twin is totally down with killing sprees and piracy. ❤
A quick update on this method, theres a much much faster method now. So after you skip the credits, the game will force you to make changes on your character and pick new traid if youd like, the game creates a new save file with the name "starborn guardian. Now theres no need to re-load the save before entering the unity. You can just reload the starborn guardian save after exiting it, every time you reload, you'll have to make character and trait changes if youd like, keep and eye out for the (mast distric). I have yet to find my recruitable self of the (mast district) universes, but i have gotten plenty of alternate universes this way at a MUCH faster rate
You are correct there and I tried to attach an update to this video. The only real difference I notice is that re-rolling the suit requires waiting through the Unity cut-scenes. Otherwise, generating new universes is easiest on the ship. Will also note that 'recruitable me' is essentially a normal Starborn/NG+ universe with Constellation available. Calling the 'non-Constellation' universes the 'alternate' is slightly inaccurate, but works well enough.
Wow, Excellent information. I just hit Starborn l15 level 172 and I've been attempting to get a good alternate universe and my way was way more tedious and I never noticed this after all this time. This is so much better to control that. Thank you.
Thank you for this. I have completed multiple NG+ sessions and always in the same universe because I did not know this little detail about Mast district NOT appearing in parenthesis. My first time following this technique I met my evil twin and was completely shocked. Had to run downstairs to collect enough ammo to win that fight.
If you're looking specifically for the universe where you can recruit yourself, that one says (Mast District) in the mission prompt for 'One Small Step' as well.
That's what I've heard. It otherwise looks like a normal universe and you won't know until you walk in the door of the Lodge. So it's a longer cycle if you're trying to re-roll for it. I might try it on my NG+ round. Thanks for sharing that.
I'm currently in NG 9, and I've only seen one alternate universe. You can also use the save point to re-roll for a better Starborn suit if you desire. I have and then that's my suit of choice for each NG run.
Re-rolling for better suit perks is a good plan. I grab the Mark I set, upgrade it as an alternative, but if I got a solid Starborn suit right off the bat I'd probably skip that and just start looking for guns! :)
I'm going to save you so much time. You don't have to save before you step through the Unity. When you leave the unity and enter your new universe it creates an autosave. A few seconds later the quest loads to go to the lodge. You can keep reloading that save. This is significantly faster than rewatching the end scene. I'm on NG9 and I've had 5 alternate universes because I use this trick ever other universe.
Mine doesn't show up as an Autosave, but there is a new save after arriving in the Starborn Guardian. I had tested with that before and not had any luck getting an alternate universe. I also managed (one time) to sneak in my own save/quicksave that worked. I did it 20 times this morning (almost gave up again) and on that last try it came through. I usually get an alternate on fewer reloads when going through the Unity again, but (!) that is a lot more time. Overall a great tip and I'll look for a way to modify the video and description. Thanks!
@@kineer Correct, it shows as a hard save, not an auto save. I called it an auto save bc it automatically happens. It does take several attempts, but each attempt is so much faster. 😁
I have a short update video out with an explanation. I mentioned you (by first name) and I have a card set up in the previous video at the point of restoration that should redirect people to the faster path. In any case, this is how I hoped people would share things. It'll help people. I also think the RNG is the same regardless of path. I just got some bad rolls during testing that convinced me it wasn't re-rolling the universe. I might also suffer from a small amount of Bethesda cynicism and assumed they wouldn't really do something this useful. :) I just did another test and got an alternate in only 8 attempts. So it's all great.
It works, but it took like 30 try's to get it the first time, for a while I thought I did something wrong. Also you don't need to do the whole end credits sequence you can just reload the save that you get once the new game starts.
It took me 20+ tries to get my first one but at least it was faster. I had tested it before and gave up. :/ "Yes" on the saved game too. There's a very short update video on that process too. There should be a card in the original video that links to it, but it's easy to miss imo. At one point, I put the probabilities in a spreadsheet and carried them out through 50+ iterations. There is always a very small, non-zero chance you won't get one. As I recall, it's over 40 cycles before the probability of getting an alternate universe in X attempts passes 99%, but still there's a tiny chance you won't get one. Frustrating if the rolls aren't going your way, but as long as they use RNG, it's our world.
Always helpful content, thanks 🙂. So far I'm five times through and haven't got one weird one which I'm good with, but it's nice to know how reroll the dice if I get one I don't want.
I think I'll need to retest once the beta drops this month (May). They could easily change how likely the alternates are. I've been waiting for the patch to go through the Unity again.
@@kineer so far I've been through 11 times and only one weird one, but I enjoyed it, only Vasco was at the lodge the others had been killed , I so needed a break from the goodies. They are the best crew though. It's a shame they don't have a crew of equal stats that doesn't care if you're less than a angel. You can put together a decent crew without them but I hate using unnamed NPC's because you lose them when taking a smaller ship, And named followers will turn on you if accidentally shoot them or are using the varuun weapons. Only the companions from Constellation won't. And the varuun weapon is my favorite, you need something heavy hitting, because you do less and less damage and take more as you go through new games, it really get noticeable after about 7 times through. I kept checking my gun, to see if I missed an upgrade.
@@nywolf9798 I noticed in the beta that my non-Constellation companions weren't losing their minds in friendly-fire situations as much (at all?). Did a little testing with Jessamine today and the Va'Ruun inflictor and the results look good. She ran through a lot of the Inflictor DoT sparkles, picked up the damage glow herself and just grunted and made faces. I shot her point blank a few times during the run as well and she didn't turn hostile. I'm optimistic about my full non-Constellation crew. :)
@@kineer yeah I hoped they adjusted that. I can't imagine why they just can't fix that gun period. If your not using the illegal rounds it shouldn't do that damage. Thanks for the update
I'm still hunting for the one 'normal variation' where I can recruit myself. I will wait until I'm ready to jump to the next NG+ to hunt that one. With the extra time per attempt (having to travel all the way to the Lodge to find out), I'm sure I'll end up wasting hours. :)
Thank you for this video. Heads up, On the Xbox series X once you enter the Unity the save feature becomes unavailable. So the talk with yourself is unavoidable.
So, you have to save before you power up the Armillary? That would add a lot of time to the restore cycle. Would still work, but starts to push the envelop of what people might be willing to do. Given that you are also re-rolling the Starborn armor on each attempt as well, at least there are two potentially good outcomes. Thanks for sharing the Xbox view.
You can save in the Unity on Xbox Series X! It just doesn't say that it is making a save! I delete my all my saves when I get into the Unity! I save & quicksave, then check to see if they are there then I go through!
I saved right before walking into the void after talking to myself. I'm on the series x and it worked fine. Only wish it didn't replay the credits every time.
@@BorgWolf359 What button are you pressing. I get nothing and no save. I save before I enter and have to chat with myself every time. Not a big deal though, the whole process takes me under 5 minutes.
!!! Heads up !!! The may 2024update wil mean this vid needs redone and it may involve more time as we now get the option to change traits and apearence every NG+ we go trough.
You are technically correct (the best kind of correct!). TH-cam lets me put cards in videos, but I am constantly on the lookout for ones that need extra context. That's just the nature of making game videos though. The ship building stuff won't be necessary after this next patch, but it was useful for a while. The "Alternate Universe" video's might be due for a full update. I've already recorded a video (unpublished) going through the Unity and adjusting traits. It just pops up as you appear on the Starborn Guardian. I'm going take some time and do some basic tests on the RNG, occurrence of Alternate Universes later though.
When I tested today, I reloaded 10 times. I didn't get an alternate universe until the 10th time. So if you were just going through naturally and not doing any reloads, it's certainly possible you wouldn't get anything unusual until later in the cycles. Just an RNG result. There's a chance you could get one early. I think I got my first one in NG+2 without any reloads. Luck of the draw.
I am on Xbox X and presently Ng12. I have had 1 alternate universe and that was killer Andreja at the lodge. But also have not done any saves at the Unity. Honestly with this last patch removing ships landing on planets, game just crashing again anywhere from a few minutes to an hour not sure how much longer I will be playing.
I'm still looking for a way around the ship landing changes. I did quickly find a Spacer Hyena III on a system in Archimedes but I'm trying to reproduce that consistently. Crashing is flat out impossible to ignore.
Actually the one you meet with the version of yourself and the Constellation members all there is supposed to be the identical universe from your first. And the one without you should be the alternate. Because you left your own universe and the new universe you land in, if your otherself originating from that universe mysteriosly disappeared, that would be an alternate instead.
Hey just one quick question for my sanity and patience lol, Do you HAVE TO save RIGHT BEFORE speaking to yourself, or just right before you enter the unity? I have a save right before walking into it. I noticed that the stats on my suit change everytime I reload so it should be obvious, but I iust want to be 100% sure
As I understand it, every time you go through the unity your suit should re-roll. I think people do that just for the potential Legendary options. I will highlight that a viewer in the comments pointed out that's an automatic save (not labeled Autosave) that you can restore from once you arrive on the Starborn Guardian. I did a very short update video on that and it's linked the original description. Should save time. So if you are following that process, you don't have to save back before the Unity.
Its sad that it seems like the “alternate” universes that are available to you do not have variations of the universe seen in that one mission at the science station (iykyk). Like i wouldn’t be apposed to see all main cities turned into a terrormorph horror zone. Or a universe where either of the factions had completely dominated the other.
I save spammed 23 times and all of them had (Mast District) in the mission prompt for 'One Small Step'. Getting an alternate is either very rare or this was just a setup for TH-cam. 😞
23 attempts is not a guarantee. It's a probability issue. I've read the base chance of an alternate is 15% so the chance of a normal universe is 85%. 23 attempts still leaves you with a 2.4% chance of all normal universes. In my late night, back of the napkin math, it would take closer to 50 attempts to ensure you got an alternate universe. Other people might get it in one try. Search on "set 17E727" to get leads into the discussions on the subject of forcing that variable to 100% and choosing your universe with console commands. I've never used a console command to force an alternate universe and all my short videos were me just repeating trips through the Unity and later just using the automatic save. It works, but math and RNGs are cruel.
This no longer works. I have gone through the unity over 60 times and I’ve also tried the method of reloading the save on the starborn guardian after having gone through the unity and have never at any point gotten an alternate universe. I don’t even get a mission to do anything.
I tested after the May update, have hours (GBs) of video of it working. This video was made after that time as well. Not sure what to tell you, but I suspect something is wrong on your PC or Xbox.
@@gkw9882 I wish it did. Up through NG+(6), the Starborn Guardian has a number after it. Mine currently is "V". I don't think after VI, it will upgrade though. I've started naming my ships the same way so my own counter should work. I'm currently flying the "Cutlass V." That also makes it easier when I look back at old saved games. Since I'm upgrading my "space shouts" too, those start at the level of my current NG+. However, once I'm done upgrading they are all 1 higher. At this point, all my powers are "VI", but I'm in NG+5.
It's essentially a Bernoulli trial with a 15% chance of success. It works exactly as demonstrated before and after the May update. The only real difference since May is the inclusion of the character customization panel when you arrive on the Guardian. I will note that if it's your first trip through the Unity, may have reported the Bethesda has forced it to be a normal universe. Perhaps because they want everyone to experience that option. Great calculator here to understand it better. planetcalc.com/7044/ Plug in 20 trials and 0.15 chance of success. Even with 20 trails, there's a 4% chance you never get an alternate universe. If you plug in 30,40,50 you'll note with more trials the chances of getting 0 does eventually converge on 0%. So the more you try the greater your chance of success. It's not very comforting but even with only 20 trails, there's a 10% chance you can get 5 alternate universe. Probability is a fickle beast. In any case, good luck.
@@kineer I do have a question if I got the one with “you?” In it on my 3rd run is it possible to get it again on my 12th if I keep going thru unity or is it impossible since it’s already happened once on that character?
@watersoflife1013 Possible means 'probability greater than 0%' so it's easy to say yes, but doesn't really tell us anything about how probable it is. [edit] This player variable exists, PlayerUnityTimesEntered so we know the game has this information. What it does with it is harder to chase down. This likely used to determine which armor and Guardian ship you get, but Bethesda is likely forcing certain things too. All stuff that's hidden in the code. We have some knowledge the process of how this works based on what PC players were able to manipulate. Search "Starfield 17E727" and you'll get a lot of discussion on the subject. Even if you're on Xbox you can find details on when it may or may not happen for you.
i have played the game 10 times and never got an alternate universe. its such bullshit bc the starborn say you will be in an alternate universe but nothing changes.
Keep in mind the "recruitable me" universe will look like a normal NG+ universe, i.e. it will say "(MAST DISTRICT)" in the corner and you will find the Constellation people at the Lodge. There are 9 true-alternates where there is no opportunity to work with the Constellation companions. There is one odd-ball-alternate (for lack of a better term) that essentially seems like a normal NG+ except when you arrive, you will also be In that one you will not have the chance to do the main quest since you have to tell them you are a Starborn to explain why there are two of you. Also note, I've not seen anyone get alternates on their first NG+ universe. Bethesda seems to force you to the Lodge with Constellation on the first pass through Unity. I do not know if they also limit the 'recruitable me' option on that first first time too. th-cam.com/users/shortsO6rVKmywX7g th-cam.com/video/X_VIkm20nxs/w-d-xo.html
I save scummed the unity about 30 times to get the universe i wanted with "You?" in it. "You?" Is my favourite companion for an evil playthrough. My twin is totally down with killing sprees and piracy. ❤
Play it like you like it! On my next NG+, I'm going to find that one and might do the same. ;)
@@kineeryou can get the NG+ creations mod and choose any universe you want now
A quick update on this method, theres a much much faster method now. So after you skip the credits, the game will force you to make changes on your character and pick new traid if youd like, the game creates a new save file with the name "starborn guardian. Now theres no need to re-load the save before entering the unity. You can just reload the starborn guardian save after exiting it, every time you reload, you'll have to make character and trait changes if youd like, keep and eye out for the (mast distric). I have yet to find my recruitable self of the (mast district) universes, but i have gotten plenty of alternate universes this way at a MUCH faster rate
You are correct there and I tried to attach an update to this video. The only real difference I notice is that re-rolling the suit requires waiting through the Unity cut-scenes. Otherwise, generating new universes is easiest on the ship. Will also note that 'recruitable me' is essentially a normal Starborn/NG+ universe with Constellation available. Calling the 'non-Constellation' universes the 'alternate' is slightly inaccurate, but works well enough.
Wow, Excellent information. I just hit Starborn l15 level 172 and I've been attempting to get a good alternate universe and my way was way more tedious and I never noticed this after all this time. This is so much better to control that. Thank you.
Thank you for this. I have completed multiple NG+ sessions and always in the same universe because I did not know this little detail about Mast district NOT appearing in parenthesis. My first time following this technique I met my evil twin and was completely shocked. Had to run downstairs to collect enough ammo to win that fight.
If you're looking specifically for the universe where you can recruit yourself, that one says (Mast District) in the mission prompt for 'One Small Step' as well.
That's what I've heard. It otherwise looks like a normal universe and you won't know until you walk in the door of the Lodge. So it's a longer cycle if you're trying to re-roll for it. I might try it on my NG+ round. Thanks for sharing that.
do you have the option to do main story on the recruit yourself version?
@@Ricksasha No. Aside from the starting dialog, it behaves as if you chose to skip the main quest.
Think they patched this out. Seems the save happens after the mission is updated. 😢
I'm currently in NG 9, and I've only seen one alternate universe. You can also use the save point to re-roll for a better Starborn suit if you desire. I have and then that's my suit of choice for each NG run.
Re-rolling for better suit perks is a good plan. I grab the Mark I set, upgrade it as an alternative, but if I got a solid Starborn suit right off the bat I'd probably skip that and just start looking for guns! :)
I'm going to save you so much time. You don't have to save before you step through the Unity.
When you leave the unity and enter your new universe it creates an autosave. A few seconds later the quest loads to go to the lodge. You can keep reloading that save. This is significantly faster than rewatching the end scene.
I'm on NG9 and I've had 5 alternate universes because I use this trick ever other universe.
Mine doesn't show up as an Autosave, but there is a new save after arriving in the Starborn Guardian. I had tested with that before and not had any luck getting an alternate universe. I also managed (one time) to sneak in my own save/quicksave that worked.
I did it 20 times this morning (almost gave up again) and on that last try it came through. I usually get an alternate on fewer reloads when going through the Unity again, but (!) that is a lot more time.
Overall a great tip and I'll look for a way to modify the video and description. Thanks!
@@kineer Correct, it shows as a hard save, not an auto save. I called it an auto save bc it automatically happens.
It does take several attempts, but each attempt is so much faster. 😁
I have a short update video out with an explanation. I mentioned you (by first name) and I have a card set up in the previous video at the point of restoration that should redirect people to the faster path. In any case, this is how I hoped people would share things. It'll help people.
I also think the RNG is the same regardless of path. I just got some bad rolls during testing that convinced me it wasn't re-rolling the universe. I might also suffer from a small amount of Bethesda cynicism and assumed they wouldn't really do something this useful. :)
I just did another test and got an alternate in only 8 attempts. So it's all great.
It works, but it took like 30 try's to get it the first time, for a while I thought I did something wrong. Also you don't need to do the whole end credits sequence you can just reload the save that you get once the new game starts.
It took me 20+ tries to get my first one but at least it was faster. I had tested it before and gave up. :/
"Yes" on the saved game too. There's a very short update video on that process too. There should be a card in the original video that links to it, but it's easy to miss imo.
At one point, I put the probabilities in a spreadsheet and carried them out through 50+ iterations. There is always a very small, non-zero chance you won't get one.
As I recall, it's over 40 cycles before the probability of getting an alternate universe in X attempts passes 99%, but still there's a tiny chance you won't get one. Frustrating if the rolls aren't going your way, but as long as they use RNG, it's our world.
Always helpful content, thanks 🙂. So far I'm five times through and haven't got one weird one which I'm good with, but it's nice to know how reroll the dice if I get one I don't want.
I think I'll need to retest once the beta drops this month (May). They could easily change how likely the alternates are. I've been waiting for the patch to go through the Unity again.
@@kineer so far I've been through 11 times and only one weird one, but I enjoyed it, only Vasco was at the lodge the others had been killed , I so needed a break from the goodies. They are the best crew though. It's a shame they don't have a crew of equal stats that doesn't care if you're less than a angel. You can put together a decent crew without them but I hate using unnamed NPC's because you lose them when taking a smaller ship, And named followers will turn on you if accidentally shoot them or are using the varuun weapons. Only the companions from Constellation won't. And the varuun weapon is my favorite, you need something heavy hitting, because you do less and less damage and take more as you go through new games, it really get noticeable after about 7 times through. I kept checking my gun, to see if I missed an upgrade.
@@nywolf9798 I noticed in the beta that my non-Constellation companions weren't losing their minds in friendly-fire situations as much (at all?). Did a little testing with Jessamine today and the Va'Ruun inflictor and the results look good. She ran through a lot of the Inflictor DoT sparkles, picked up the damage glow herself and just grunted and made faces. I shot her point blank a few times during the run as well and she didn't turn hostile.
I'm optimistic about my full non-Constellation crew. :)
@@kineer yeah I hoped they adjusted that. I can't imagine why they just can't fix that gun period. If your not using the illegal rounds it shouldn't do that damage. Thanks for the update
Interesting , Thank You .
Thanks for this - been wondering what alternatives are available in the "other side".
I'm still hunting for the one 'normal variation' where I can recruit myself. I will wait until I'm ready to jump to the next NG+ to hunt that one. With the extra time per attempt (having to travel all the way to the Lodge to find out), I'm sure I'll end up wasting hours. :)
Thank you for this video. Heads up, On the Xbox series X once you enter the Unity the save feature becomes unavailable. So the talk with yourself is unavoidable.
So, you have to save before you power up the Armillary? That would add a lot of time to the restore cycle. Would still work, but starts to push the envelop of what people might be willing to do. Given that you are also re-rolling the Starborn armor on each attempt as well, at least there are two potentially good outcomes. Thanks for sharing the Xbox view.
You can save in the Unity on Xbox Series X! It just doesn't say that it is making a save! I delete my all my saves when I get into the Unity! I save & quicksave, then check to see if they are there then I go through!
I saved right before walking into the void after talking to myself. I'm on the series x and it worked fine. Only wish it didn't replay the credits every time.
@@BorgWolf359 What button are you pressing. I get nothing and no save. I save before I enter and have to chat with myself every time. Not a big deal though, the whole process takes me under 5 minutes.
I walked past myself and save it right before I enter the unity.
soon at level 324 ... then will go through the NG ...
Amazing. I haven't looked in a while, but what's the skill point total? Are you maxing them out?
You all complain about loading screens but you’ll reload save 30 times to get Alt start?
We have built pretty much the same ship , awesome
Excellent. Its lethal, practical, replaceable. 😀
!!! Heads up !!! The may 2024update wil mean this vid needs redone and it may involve more time as we now get the option to change traits and apearence every NG+ we go trough.
You are technically correct (the best kind of correct!).
TH-cam lets me put cards in videos, but I am constantly on the lookout for ones that need extra context. That's just the nature of making game videos though. The ship building stuff won't be necessary after this next patch, but it was useful for a while. The "Alternate Universe" video's might be due for a full update.
I've already recorded a video (unpublished) going through the Unity and adjusting traits. It just pops up as you appear on the Starborn Guardian. I'm going take some time and do some basic tests on the RNG, occurrence of Alternate Universes later though.
I've heard people say that you don't Get them until you're on NG+10>
When I tested today, I reloaded 10 times. I didn't get an alternate universe until the 10th time. So if you were just going through naturally and not doing any reloads, it's certainly possible you wouldn't get anything unusual until later in the cycles. Just an RNG result. There's a chance you could get one early. I think I got my first one in NG+2 without any reloads. Luck of the draw.
So if it doesn’t say “MAST”, what does that do to New Atlantis?
I’m only on NG+2, and everything seems the same, so far. 🤷🏼♂️
The rest of New Atlantis looks the same as I've seen it. It all changes when you enter the door at the Lodge.
I got the version where Stroud killed all of constellation on ng+2
I got my first 'alternate' in NG+2 as well (without doing any saves). That's just the R in RNG.
gotta ride the event out 🤣 when you ryme on accident just roll with it like you meant to do that !
I did wonder if anyone would listen to the end. :)
ON NG+6 and only had 1 alternate universe. Was the Cora one.
Did you have to fight or were you safe (Sam didn't die in your history)?
@@kineer Nope Sam did not die so no fight.
I am on Xbox X and presently Ng12. I have had 1 alternate universe and that was killer Andreja at the lodge. But also have not done any saves at the Unity. Honestly with this last patch removing ships landing on planets, game just crashing again anywhere from a few minutes to an hour not sure how much longer I will be playing.
I'm still looking for a way around the ship landing changes. I did quickly find a Spacer Hyena III on a system in Archimedes but I'm trying to reproduce that consistently. Crashing is flat out impossible to ignore.
Actually the one you meet with the version of yourself and the Constellation members all there is supposed to be the identical universe from your first. And the one without you should be the alternate. Because you left your own universe and the new universe you land in, if your otherself originating from that universe mysteriosly disappeared, that would be an alternate instead.
Interesting.
Hey just one quick question for my sanity and patience lol, Do you HAVE TO save RIGHT BEFORE speaking to yourself, or just right before you enter the unity? I have a save right before walking into it. I noticed that the stats on my suit change everytime I reload so it should be obvious, but I iust want to be 100% sure
As I understand it, every time you go through the unity your suit should re-roll. I think people do that just for the potential Legendary options. I will highlight that a viewer in the comments pointed out that's an automatic save (not labeled Autosave) that you can restore from once you arrive on the Starborn Guardian. I did a very short update video on that and it's linked the original description. Should save time. So if you are following that process, you don't have to save back before the Unity.
@@kineer thank you very much man 🤙
Its sad that it seems like the “alternate” universes that are available to you do not have variations of the universe seen in that one mission at the science station (iykyk). Like i wouldn’t be apposed to see all main cities turned into a terrormorph horror zone. Or a universe where either of the factions had completely dominated the other.
Interesting.
I save spammed 23 times and all of them had (Mast District) in the mission prompt for 'One Small Step'. Getting an alternate is either very rare or this was just a setup for TH-cam. 😞
23 attempts is not a guarantee. It's a probability issue.
I've read the base chance of an alternate is 15% so the chance of a normal universe is 85%.
23 attempts still leaves you with a 2.4% chance of all normal universes. In my late night, back of the napkin math, it would take closer to 50 attempts to ensure you got an alternate universe. Other people might get it in one try.
Search on "set 17E727" to get leads into the discussions on the subject of forcing that variable to 100% and choosing your universe with console commands.
I've never used a console command to force an alternate universe and all my short videos were me just repeating trips through the Unity and later just using the automatic save. It works, but math and RNGs are cruel.
@@kineer Thanks for that, I will try it next time. 😀
This no longer works. I have gone through the unity over 60 times and I’ve also tried the method of reloading the save on the starborn guardian after having gone through the unity and have never at any point gotten an alternate universe. I don’t even get a mission to do anything.
I tested after the May update, have hours (GBs) of video of it working. This video was made after that time as well. Not sure what to tell you, but I suspect something is wrong on your PC or Xbox.
Tried these methods for about an hour, only got standard universes, go tired of it and went with whatever happened - standard universe.
I'm almost to the point of flipping into another NG+. I'm waiting until after the next patch. It's always worth checking once they drop updates.
Does the game show you how many NG+ you've done?
@@gkw9882 I wish it did. Up through NG+(6), the Starborn Guardian has a number after it. Mine currently is "V". I don't think after VI, it will upgrade though. I've started naming my ships the same way so my own counter should work. I'm currently flying the "Cutlass V." That also makes it easier when I look back at old saved games.
Since I'm upgrading my "space shouts" too, those start at the level of my current NG+. However, once I'm done upgrading they are all 1 higher. At this point, all my powers are "VI", but I'm in NG+5.
I went fishing instead
I don't know what this means, but your profile photo is awesome.
This is kinda trash sadly I’ve done it around 20 times and got nothing different it’s the same standard universe every single time
It's essentially a Bernoulli trial with a 15% chance of success. It works exactly as demonstrated before and after the May update. The only real difference since May is the inclusion of the character customization panel when you arrive on the Guardian. I will note that if it's your first trip through the Unity, may have reported the Bethesda has forced it to be a normal universe. Perhaps because they want everyone to experience that option.
Great calculator here to understand it better. planetcalc.com/7044/
Plug in 20 trials and 0.15 chance of success. Even with 20 trails, there's a 4% chance you never get an alternate universe. If you plug in 30,40,50 you'll note with more trials the chances of getting 0 does eventually converge on 0%.
So the more you try the greater your chance of success. It's not very comforting but even with only 20 trails, there's a 10% chance you can get 5 alternate universe. Probability is a fickle beast. In any case, good luck.
@@kineer I do have a question if I got the one with “you?” In it on my 3rd run is it possible to get it again on my 12th if I keep going thru unity or is it impossible since it’s already happened once on that character?
@watersoflife1013 Possible means 'probability greater than 0%' so it's easy to say yes, but doesn't really tell us anything about how probable it is.
[edit] This player variable exists, PlayerUnityTimesEntered so we know the game has this information. What it does with it is harder to chase down. This likely used to determine which armor and Guardian ship you get, but Bethesda is likely forcing certain things too.
All stuff that's hidden in the code. We have some knowledge the process of how this works based on what PC players were able to manipulate. Search "Starfield 17E727" and you'll get a lot of discussion on the subject. Even if you're on Xbox you can find details on when it may or may not happen for you.
i have played the game 10 times and never got an alternate universe. its such bullshit bc the starborn say you will be in an alternate universe but nothing changes.
It's rare.
Man i have tried abt 70x to get to the universe where i can recruit myself and i get everything BUT that universe smfh
Keep in mind the "recruitable me" universe will look like a normal NG+ universe, i.e. it will say "(MAST DISTRICT)" in the corner and you will find the Constellation people at the Lodge.
There are 9 true-alternates where there is no opportunity to work with the Constellation companions.
There is one odd-ball-alternate (for lack of a better term) that essentially seems like a normal NG+ except when you arrive, you will also be In that one you will not have the chance to do the main quest since you have to tell them you are a Starborn to explain why there are two of you.
Also note, I've not seen anyone get alternates on their first NG+ universe. Bethesda seems to force you to the Lodge with Constellation on the first pass through Unity. I do not know if they also limit the 'recruitable me' option on that first first time too.
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