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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 เม.ย. 2024
- In 2020, I made an iceberg for Ocarina of Time. This video explains over 140 topics about the game that you may not have known about. Obscure info, oddities, rumors, and urban legends are all here. Let me tell you about them.
0:00 Intro
1:04 1F: Above The Surface
4:27 B1: Breaking The Surface
10:47 B2: Bottoming Out
13:24 B3: Strange Waters
15:54 B4: Deep Dive
19:49 B5: Mythic Depths
20:46 B6: The Abyss
23:33 B7: Golden Scale Depths
27:52 Addendum
34:17 Conclusion
My original Ocarina of Time Iceberg image: / 1304496334913773568
Google Doc of everything explained in text, with links to related topics: docs.google.com/document/d/1S...
Thanks to:
The Cutting Room Floor, The Practice Rom Team, The OoT Speedrunning Discord, TPR, ZeldaSpeedRuns, ZREO
And special thanks to:
AceZephyr, Blackop778, Cisco64, Dannyb, Deathmastakawaii, Druncle_Titus, Faschz, Fig02, Glank, Phlori/Hyphlopod, Julian1000, Krimtonz, Macrepeh, MrCheeze, Mzxrules, N3rdswithgame, NatalyaHasDied, Nikra, PaintSkate8, PsyMarth, Pokey, Rzezzy1, Scurty, Sniping117, Swordless Link, Tharo, Terry1994, Tottz, Volvagia, Z64me, and ZFG
Ocarina of Time Info playlist: • Ocarina of Time Info V...
Twitter: / seedyz_
#zelda #ocarinaoftime #icebergexplained - เกม
The fact that I knew roughly 95% of these really says something about how much this game took over my life as a kid
Right lol
Same lol!!
Yeet
yeah 😌👍 brought back some memories
Same 👍
When you first get access to Hyrule Field early in the game and have not yet entered either Gerudo Valley or Hyrule Lake, you can go to the point on the map between the two. This around the 7 o'clock position and there is a ledge. Standing here, you can simultaneously see Kaepora Gaebora perched on the pillar outside Hyrule Lake and the tree outside Gerudo Valley
I saw this during my most recent 100% run of the game!
😲 - I want to see this for myself!
Whoa, thats really cool. Time to pull out the N64
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Was going to leave a like but the likes were currently at 420
5:03 I spent hours as a kid trying to figure out why Navi went green like that at random spots and years wondering about it. Thats so crazy.
Wow same here
I thought I was the only one. I would even sit there looking at it like I wonder if this is a hidden item/area no one has found yet but me
Throughout the game, I only got ONE big fairy. I was super confused but went with it anyway.
It's a testament to either an amazing childhood with useful neighbor friends, or just innate curiosity on my end to be able to find out the secrets..... Ah nvm now I remember all the guides all the kids bought
This went from nostalgia to "Am i watching the same video?
I expect it went there at "statue nipples hookshot collision" XD
@@wackolantern4786 i always knew this as a kid back in 1999
All I'm saying is this: Has anyone seen Jabu Jabu and the Zora's Domain ice in the same room? I rest my case.
I always thought that huge chunk of ice was Jabu Jabu frozen.
i know I am kind of randomly asking but do anyone know of a good site to stream new tv shows online ?
@Leon Allan thank you, I went there and it seems like a nice service :) I appreciate it !
@Merrick Miller no problem :)
@@joshuabistline6287 me too!
12:52
Not just ANY Gerudo but Nabooru. When you approach her in the child portion of the Spirit Temple while wearing the mask she notes how "It looks kinda like herself" befor correcting herself that it looks nothing like her after all (same as Talon).
Coupled with the fact that we're told by one of the stones that gerudo take men from Hyrule to continue their line AND that Malon has red hair, while Talon has black hair ...
Theoretically if malon and link have a child and their children continue to have children eventually the new ganon and link reincarnation will be brothers or cousins
@@jrickducking6685 eventually ganon & link spawn as the same being.
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Now we're cooking something
26:03
Actually, that is an easter egg. That is the map of the work studio, where they developed the game. The layout is the same. Even if you translate it, it says the names of the rooms. Search it online
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The butterfly turning into a fairy with the stick trick is an homage to Mario 64, where certain butterflies will fly away from Mario very slowly and, if followed, turn into a one up
Wow, that’s awesome
Or, randomly, a bomb.
Heres an interesting and unmentioned theory that I came to in a recent replay. The room in Goron city where you break a ton of multicolored boulders is a Food storage cache as its mentioned that Gorons eat rocks. You've just destroyed a bunch of their food reserve.
Perhaps but they claim they're starving because Dodongo's cavern is locked. By a rock. Rocks on the mountain path exist in both times and rocks do fall from the sky on the way to the top of the mountain.. they also eat jewels/precious stones. They say the goron ruby looks juicy and they have to keep themselves from eating this heirloom. I think Darunia says he gives it to link because they don't need it anymore now that the cave is open and free from monsters which means they have access to their favourite food (whatever it is in the cave that they're referring to)
@@borstenpinsel The big rock isn’t just blocking the cave. It’s blocking king dodongo. Why would they break the rock just to release something that will eat them all?
@@bob513993I feel like the reason king dodongo is sealed in that one room is because of the Gordon’s making the mines safer for themselves idk
@@riplix20 The gorons didn’t know king dodongo was there. They were mining and came across its nest, Ganondorf heard about the infestation when they sent a message to Hyrule for help, then came by and collapsed the entrance and demanded the ruby before he did anything to help them. That’s when you show up as Link.
Lol same. On my last playthrough it dawned on me too. Almost felt bad once I cleared the room.
I remember being 8 years old, finding zoras realm after a really long search, being flashed by the area, running to my parents telling them "how I'll never draw my sword in zoras realm because its such a beautiful and peaceful area", Im not sure how they reacted, probably like: "oh thats nice", not knowing what Im actually talking about, didnt phase me at all tho, right back to my room to play this awesome game. Good times.
I love this
That’s cool 😎
Parents must be weirded out by cryptic shit like this all the time lol
20:32 The Gorons are actually a hint at having to play Saria's Song for Darunia. The wall paintings are on the same floor as the shortcut to The Lost Woods and are showing the Gorons doing the same dance as Darunia.
I have NEVER noticed that, wow 😳
Lol thats actually how i figured out to do it
No those are actually SRM-Prophecies...
@@imbazed22 They knew
But thats just a theory, a game theory
I know I'm a little late to this but the "farting cabbage" isn't very accurate. It's true in french the verb "péter" means "fart", but we also use this verb instead of "explode", so in this case it's actually "explosive cabbage" ^^
Muchas Gracias
A lot of this seems off
J'allais mettre un commentaire sur ça mdr
And TIL the word petard comes from péter for explosion. Makes sense haha.
Explosive fart cabbage
It may have been Swanky Box, but it was revealed that the dungeon map texture is actually the interior of an office at nintendo. The text translates to rooms typically found in offices too.
Ummm it's dogongos cavern
@@LingLingthebabypikac The map layout is actually their offices, the text translates to their rooms. It's a joke, saying the production team was in a dungeon
@@LingLingthebabypikac people thought that cause it kinda looked similar, keep that brain closed lmfao
wow I can't believe that doug bowser was the sage of America and he had to ascend.
"Willst thou soar? Or willst thou suck?"
Was actually the censored version of the commercial. The original was:
"Willst thou save the girl? Or play like one?"
Oh really?
Yes I remember that version of it
lol
Glad that they kept the "whilst thou suck?" Line for the 3DS remake version of the trailer too. The other one would be worse.
2 things I think would have been worth mentioning:
1. When you don't shoot anything in the shooting gallery, the shopkeeper's head will start looking away from you rather than following you
2. The theory that the Sheikah were involved in an insurrection during the Hyrulean Civil War and for their treachery, were genocided
So another secret you didn’t mention regarding the Mario portraits in Hyrule castle. If you actually shoot them with the slingshot some rupees come out. Conversely, if you shoot at the other window across that does not have Mario portraits, a guard gets mad and throws a bomb at you. Try it yourself
I love that it's 2021 and we're STILL finding new things about this game. I've been interested in OoT's secrets since childhood and they're still finding ways to surprise me.
Aren't most of these fairly old? Lol
It’s 2023
@@Brainsore. its 2025
You missed a small detail of the rocket gossip stone feature: if you hit it while it is blue or red, it will stop blasting off and stay that color!
W H A T
Additionally, if it hits a ceiling on its way up it explodes.
I thought that also when he tried it out. Haha.
Something that can be added that I don't think is very well known is that you can walk across the desert colossus quicksand river with the hover boots equipped which absolutely baffled me the first time I did that years back.
You can also walk across it in reverse as a child.
I've seen a lot of Zelda iceberg videos, but this is by far the best. Really appreciate the dry sense of humor about the B7 theories, haha
17:22 as a French person who played the game, I have to clarify it. « Péteur » can be the translation for « farting » but in French, it has another meaning which is explosion. When something is about to péter, it can means that it’s gonna explode.
Thanks for this awesome video. Love on you ❤️
Nearly 23 years later and people are still talking about OOT . Absolute masterpiece !!! Fav game of all time !!
@@johncuthbertson4286 the 90’s were so good. Before the internet and social media ruining games . Ocarina of time
Had such mystery and wonder . Ahhh wish i could go back to 1998 and play for the first time again . Wish i could go back in time
@@johncuthbertson4286 It absolutely still holds up, I don't think I'll ever get tired of playing Ocarina of Time.
Better than other OOT icebergs I’ve seen
The extinct dog part of the iceberg is kinda crazy I never realized that tbh
First 23 minutes: Ah yes, a Zelda Iceberg
The next 4 minutes: POR FAVOR NINTENDO
This iceberg is going to be good when most of the surface entries I wasn't aware of.
Also Jabu-Jabu is the ice blew my mind.
I always thought he was turned to ice when I was a kid, the ice is kind of shaped like a smaller whale
There are 3 main natural entities bestowed upon with the power of the 3 that made the Triforce. Nayru (bestowing Jabu Jabu), Farore (Deku Tree), notice how those 2 get poisoned, and Din (Volvagia). Research, kids. Research.
@@raz9305 I think you're replying to the wrong comment...
@@trentp1993 Thats what I thought too. He froze and his upper half broke off somehow. Always made me feel kind of bad for him.
It's true. If you put on the iron boots and look up at it from underneath, you can see the remains of his ribcage. It was removed in the 3ds version, though.
You forgot: Epona can jump the gap of the fallen bridge in Gerudo Valley, the Hylian Loach at the fishing pond and the guard that throws a bomb at you when you fire the slingshot at the opposite window from the Mario images in Zelda’s garden.
Oh, and in the hidden hole by the castle, you can time your backflip into the extraction light with your boomerang receiving the golden skull reward, if done right you can have an infinite number of golden skulls.
Wait how are you supposed to get across the bridge while its broken? I've always used epona.
@@highrise7591 long shot
@@adammaynard5683 oh right I always do epona so i can get the biggoron sword asap so I forgot its not the normal way
@@highrise7591 that’s how I do it too, I don’t even think about playing without the biggoron sword!
I don't think it was "forgotten", just way too obvious to include
Old timer here. About the epona hopping a fence thing. I was an active member of the speedrunning community at that point in time and still talk to julian1000 every now and then.
The origin of it was from the Speed Demos Archive forums, but in a thread about Majora's Mask where people speculated how to get past the fence to Great Bay Coast without Goron Mask or damage boosting with bombs, where julian as a joke suggested using epona. Fiercelinkmaster as a joke claimed he didn't know how that worked so julian then posted that video as a tutorial.
Good old times.
Lmao thats awesome
26:03 in The Legend of Zelda Encyclopedia they actually explain that the layout on the dungeon map is actually one of their offices.
Edit: each room is labeled as well
This is Miyamoto’s greatest achievement. He even said so in Nintendo Power.
My favorite game of all time.
What if i told you miyamoto was gonna make this game in first person view
Holy crap, this by far, one of the best iceberg videos, not just OOT. Great job dude!
Jesus, this is fantastic! Quite possibly the best OoT Iceberg (and video) yet!
I actually didn't know a lot of those early entries. Things like "Stealing the Fisherman's hat" blew my mind.
Also, great editing, particularly with the visuals.
Glad you enjoyed it so much! I put a lot of effort into making this one, so I'm glad it's getting some appreciation :)
If you steal the fishermans hat during the game he does not wear it in the ending sequence.
Long before the youtube videos i did it in my first ever Oot playthrough. 😁
Was the fence hopping entry a joke? I feel like a lot of these need more explanation. Like the Leever Armor one.
Epona Hopping a Fence is a niche Zelda 64 speedrunning meme, so I wanted to add it in for giggles. The Leever Armor is about Stale Reference Manipulation, the big new glitch discovered for Zelda 64. It turns out that the glitch Acryte was doing to get Leever Armor was actually a form of SRM, more than a decade before its discovery.
Damn, didnt know you could bribe the guard. Thanks for bringing this to my attention!
how did I play this game over and over endlessly as a kid and only just realize the cows aren't supposed to be there-
Kids just roll with whatever they see lol
“U don’t have to play if u don’t want to 🥺”
My biggest argument against "Gannondorf killed Jabu Jabu" is that Jabu Jabu appears in Oracle of Ages which takes place in the "Hero is Defeated" timeline. My theory is that Jabu Jabu migrated to Labrynna sometime in the 7 year skip and was subsequently embraced by that tribe of Zoras who also did not "devolve" the way Hyrule Zoras did between Ocarina of Time and Link to the Past
GR8 POINTS INDEED
Except you can literally see his remains under the ice block… put on weight boots as Adult Link and take a look for yourself. You can see rib bones. Maybe its not Jabu?
He also appears in ww in the adult timeline, and there he abandoned his island and hid out behind Outset Island, so he not only is alive but he has a clear history of abandoning his people to Ganon and swimming for the hills.
I am pretty sure that if you use the lens of truth in 7:03 you can see a ladder or something. Great video
Great depth of content! I also appreciate you noting what’s a theory and rumor rather than blending that stuff in without specifying.
I like the theory that Jabu Jabu dies of starvation in the adult link one bc the Zora people always feed him and he relies on that, and when the temple freezes over and so do the Zora he dies of starvation since they can't feed him anymore.
Nah bro, he's unfortunately sill alive in the adult time line, we find him in ww, where he's in charge of an island that got decimated by Ganon right before 'Link' could arrive to save it, and he made a mad dash to Outset Island to hide while his people were slaughtered and their home was destroyed. He's alive, he just is a shit guardian and has no problem abandoning his people to die and suffer while he makes an escape.
Played this game for more than a decade now and I've never heard about of most of these. What an absolute masterpiece this game.
This is definitely the best OOT iceberg video too and I've seen a lot by now. Very original!
Also great music choice!
for some reason as a kid, I thought the bottle thing was what you were supposed to do to defeat Gannon 😂
Missed if you walk on the path at night in hyrule field as child link then skullchildren won’t spawn which might be a reference to how the same would happen in Zelda 2.
This isn’t true.....
@@sydneyp7867 yes it is, theyre called stalchildren actually though so thats my bad but yeah if you walk on the road/path at night as child link then they wont appear
@@sydneyp7867 Yes, it is. Try it as a child.
Another thing that could be added is what I call the Laboratory Glitch. It's an alternate way to get the Heart Piece from the scientist. Sink to the bottom of the tank with the Iron Boots and go to the side with the shark. Use the Hookshot on the box down there and while it's firing switch to the Kokiri Boots. It may take a few tries but eventually you'll hear the success jingle and if you talk to the scientist he'll give you the Heart Piece. This works in every official release of the game, including the VC and 3DS remake. You never need the Golden Scale and never have to fish as an adult. You are welcome Zelda Nation.😎
Lol I swore I got the heart piece
without the golden scale. Thanks
@@banjosheek you're welcome. No you need the Golden Scale in order to dive far enough down. It's annoying because it's literally the only thing you need it for and it's a total pain in the ass to get. The glitch method is way easier and the only way I get it now. F*ck fishing in that game.
Literally have been doing this on every playthru for years bcz i thought it was intended… i thought the golden scale was for fun LMAO
17:16 , For the "chou-péteur", in french "péteur" also means "exploding" so it's ofc not used as "farting cabbages" but as "exploding cabbages"
A lot of the points on the iceberg I had never heard before and I learned a lot of interesting stuff. Great job!
I always thought the order for the temples were forest, fire, water, spirit and shadow. I always beat them in this order, weither on the 64, the gamecube edition or the 3d remake.
That actually makes alot of sense shadow temple seems like a much better final temple even tho they're both godtier
Man that’s crazy, interesting how people grew up playing the same game differently. The spirit temple is my favorite in the game, so I love saving it for last and taking my time to complete it
Forest, fire, water, shadow, spirit here.
@@tanng93 same
I did the water Temple before the fire Temple
Wow an actually good Ocarina iceberg! Seriously there is stuff here I didn't even know still which is just insane. I regret not watching this sooner. If anything I'd say some lower level rumors still feels near surface level knowledge but I understand the arrangement, last layer could be a little less jokey too lol. As for missing entries a lot are ones in my proposal for a definitive edition version of the iceberg (which this is like a more legible version of). It contains more rumors, easter eggs, beta content, and shared practices between players, especially from back in the day. You can check it out if you want, but I'm just glad this was such a step up from the first iceberg chart.
I love this game and Majora's Mask so much I can't even put it into words. It really was a case of right place at right time for many people.
I do like the Rauru & Kaepora Gaebora theory, but the owl does appear when Link is an adult - he can be seen during the Requiem of Spirit cutscene in the place where he talks to you as a child after you get the Silver Gauntlets. That could mean Rauru is able to turn back and forth into the owl?
Yes Hyrule Historia confirms the Owl(KG) is Rauru. One of the gossip stones tells Link that KG is the reincarnation of one of the sages. Rauru appears to exist within the Chamber of Sages only, so it can be interpreted that KG is Rauru manifesting in Hyrule via the owl. It also lends credence to the theory that once the sages are awakened in OOT, they assume a ‘spirit’-like form, rather than remaining in human form.
This was great! Informative and entertaining overall. I even learned some new thing from this video, and I appreciate that greatly. Keep up the good work 🙏🏽
There's only two I didn't see. You can wait for Shadow Link to turn solid and he'll attack you and you can freeze Bongo Bongo's hands and he'll try to break the ice.
How do you freeze his hands?
@@hiphop2u Ice Arrows, they are an optional side quest in the Gerudo Village as an adult.
Idk why but 6:41 is funny to me as I imagine Link on his like 1000th run is testing everything; confirming what you were telling us and is the one saying "yep"
When I was a kid I found a way to reach gerudo fortress in childhood link. First, you have to transport to desert colosus. Then I had to memorized the right track, the location of the flags in order to cross the desert. In order to cross the quicksand that is located at the very beginning of the wasteland, you have to go to the border of the quicksand and move backwards. Once you crossed the quicksand, now you’re able to reach gerudo desert and now you are able to explore the zone.
😂😂😂 things that kids do when you have a lot of time.
I've seen videos where people reach it as a kid, but yours sounds simpler, less likely, and more intuitive to a child!
Make a vid?
Very cool! I love hearing stories like these, discovering something in a video game because you just spent so much time playing it.
great video! never thought I'd learn something new from an oot iceberg but here I am, enlightened!
This was amazing! Hopefully you can make a Majoras mask Iceberg as well, that would be... a terrifying video.
Fun fact: Ganondorf and Navi’s themes are the same, they just use different instruments, and one is in minor while the other is in major :)
HOLY SHIT WAT
That sounds really interesting, but I can't tell if your joking, sauce?
@@DinoNuggies4665 ??? Why would i be joking? Just listen to one and then listen to the other, then it will become apparent
@@mczappa4229 Which Ganon theme? And is Navi's theme that small bit that plays while she's looking for link in the beginning of the game?
@@DinoNuggies4665 the one i’m referring to is the final battle theme, the one that plays when link and Ganondorf battle inside the castle, and yes, that is navis theme in the beginning :)
I want a meta game, where you play as a kid playing a game.
And the goal is to achieve all the stupid 90's rumors your friends tell you at recess.
Duck season is pretty close to that
Had a great time with this video! Thanks for putting so much effort into it! OoT is still my favourite Zelda game and I guess that won‘t change in future :)
ZFG must have had some sort of ACE up his sleeve....sketchy
26:07 This HQ image is actually a layout of the Nintendo offices.
The text in the HQ image translate to things like "closet" and "cafeteria"
This video was amazing, this game is actually so timeless. Good job!
Hey, did you know that playing the basic non warp songs in front of different gossip stones has different effects? I only remember 2; one gives up a fairy, and one of them makes them spin. I forget which.
Woah, Malon's mother was a Gerudo? Wouldn't that have meant taht Malon would have been taken to be raised by the Gerudo? Or was it that she looked too much like a Hylian that she was left with her father? Wait... this means that Twilight Princess Link may have Gerudo Lineage based on a theory that OoT Link married Malon (and it is confirmed OoT Link is TP Link's ancestor).
Link definitely marries Malon. The game all but confirms it. He knows Epona's song which he could have only learned from Malons family, he's a ranch hand, wonder where he learned those trades.. And on top of that Ordon village is EXTREMELY close to Kokiri. Links own house even being a tree. I would definitely theorize that Malon was left with her father maybe because mom hated Ganondorf? And on that point, fun fact, if you talk to Nabooru in the spirit temple with the gerund mask on, she will say about the EXACT same thing Talon said. Talon "That looks like my wife.. wait.. on second thought it doesn't look like her at all"
Nabooru" that kind of looks like me... wait.. on second thought it doesn't look like me at all"
Nabooru is Malon"s mom.
TP Link is a Gerudo King.
Door outside doesn't line up with door inside? Maybe there's two doors connected to a room.
Dude, the amount of things I learned here is astounding. Great Job! Thank you!
That ending chunk, almost all of them I had no idea about! It was pretty cool to hear about those. And I thought I knew just about everything about OOT lol. Good job! 😄
My favorite cucco attack is in Lon Lon Ranch when you temple them on Epona and that attack her hooves instead of going after Link. It’s fun to ride around the ranch with the flock following you.
I am playing this game for like 15 years and i still found new stuff today great video fr
song of storm - Maybe Mido played it for the windmill guy, and then when that guy says a forest kid in green clothes we all think it is Link.
I never knew Shadow temple was meant to be the 4th temple until I got older. I always did Spirit Temple before Shadow.
20:30 That's the position of Link's hands when he holds things. The Goron picture has nothing to do with it & it doesn't mean that the developers intended for the glitch to occur.
Some very big ones missed like all Sages being dead or the Poe sisters in the Forest Temple being murdered in the civil war.
You can also get the drawbridge rupees during the day by just jumping off both chains near the top.
Great video, managed to fit a lot in just 35 mins!
I can't lie to you, "did he have an ace up his sleeve" is some incredible punmanship.
God you went completely off the rails towards the end
Alright, how in hell does this only have half the views of your "smash announcer lore" video? Like, I get youtube recommended lots of people that video, and they all found it funny. But if they truly liked the video, then why didn't they go and watch some of your other content? That's what I do when I find a video I like, I go to see if the rest of the channel's great too, and in this case it is! Videos like these are really interesting stuff, man. This video deserves wayyy more views than it's got at the moment! You've just earned yourself a new subscriber, cuz it's the least I can do to help a good small content creator like you grow bigger.
In case for the "Chou-Peteur" part, "Peter" also mean "explode" in french. Peter is the infinitive verb of the noun "peteur".
I love your voice change as the theory's get more and more insane lmao
this was so well made!! keep it up
I had a great childhood in almost every aspect, but the N64 and especially Ocarina of Time still holds some of my fondest memories .. Every now and then I watch a video like this, as it oddly comforts me, I have explored the world of Hyrule to the last corner (or so I thought), and finished the game 100% all by myself without any help, not even from the internet, at the age of 10, which made me super proud .. The sound, the music, the ambience .. it all feels oddly "homey" to me :')
Great work thank you putting the time in for this
"Could they have had an ACE up their sleeve"
Bravo, Seedy, bravo
you put so much work into this wow, thannk you for the nostalgic feelings !!!
I don't think the Redead was mourning his felled friend but moreso devouring.
Thousands of hour into this game and yet I still learned something new
Re: the Light Temple, I always just assumed that the room you talk to Rauru in WAS the Light Temple.
I’ve always done the temples in the intended order. Except for back when I was a kid and would just get as far in any place as I could until I had to go to some other dungeon to figure it all out.
Great video! Glad I stumbled upon it. Personally, I always did the spirit tumble first then the shadow temple. Always fun memories with this game
I really appreciate the brevity of this video. Some people would draw this out into 2 hours.
Zero dislikes as it should be. Great job!
This was so well made. Thank you so much for this!
30:34 Oh my god, is this why TP Ganondorf gets distracted by the fishing rod? "Why does this seem so... familiar?"
Love this framing for OoT specifically! It’s hard to explain why the bottom half of this iceberg-subtext/darker lore and theories, glitches, speedruns, etc.-moves me so deeply the way it does, 25+ years later!-but having an easy way of categorizing all of that stuff together is clarifying.
To add to the ‘Hyrule Field’s music changes from calm to energetic while you’re walking,’ item, gotta excerpt this retrospective review of the OoT soundtrack (that also serves as a thoughtful tribute to Koji Kondo’s whole body of work):
“Kondo also boldly ditched Zelda’s iconic main theme, broadly regarded as his standout work, for the very first time. This could have resulted in open revolt amongst diehards but for two majestic new pieces inserted in its place: The rousing “Hyrule Field,” which follows you throughout the game’s central area, stayed fresh by utilizing an adaptive mechanism that told the game’s internal engine to cleanly cycle between eight-bar segments with open chords, depending on whether you were in danger, resting, or in full flow on horseback. Then there’s the tender “Title Theme” greeting you as soon as the N64 loads up: drifting chords, spare keyboard rolls, one quivering ocarina, and clip-clopping hooves as Link’s horse, Epona, strides across the screen.”
talon is mario thats why hes sleeping by the castle (while "noone is playing mario64") thanks for putting this all together - its amazing!!
You can really tell when a game is made and the people make it truly live their job and their product. Like they truly care and what to see it to fruition. So many cool Easter eggs and mechanics for a 90’s N64 game.
I didn't know the "you don't have to play if you don't want to" that's so sweet ☺️
Holy shit yeahhhh I love icebergs
this deserves a million times the likes it has!