Agree on all fronts. Rims should be factory taped. In every scenario, they should be taped. Odd. The tape job on Elites is 👌 Also about the captive straight pull spoke redundancy, since i started banging on about that in every vid im finally starting to see the change! 😅
According to our good buddy Joe Panda a lot of companies are foregoing spare spokes. Besides being more cost effective (for the company), the logic is if you have a bad crash you most likely will require more than the 2-4 spokes supplied anyway.
I forgot to mention: The bearings are ceramic. Magene does include a set of plugs/grommets to cover each individual spoke hole. This a nice touch. However, and again, this and the tubeless rim tape should have been installed from the factory.
Hey Patrick, love your reviews! As for the rim tape, I applaud Magene for not installing it as many ppl will use the plugs to cover the spoke holes (for clincher use) instead of the tape. This way they don't have to remove it. They can gift it to a friend or use it in the future should they decide to go tubeless.
Great review as always, and didn't even know that Magene sold wheels. I just reviewed their H603 heart rate monitor and it seems much more reliable than their former H64. Love the Toronto hat btw!
yo, you're pushing out a lot of content again! Looking forward to your Scott Foil build ;) I am still debating weather i should also try a chinese frame soon... Keep it up patty!
Loved the review always nice to see something on a wheelset I was unaware of. My cousin is looking to get a wheelset from Boyd Cycling so I would love to see something from them.
Few months ago I've read at some wheel brand website, can't remember which one, that they're stop supplying spare carbon spokes with the wheels for some environmental reasons, maybe it's the case with magene too 🤔
I'd love to see a video on ProX wheels, specifically their higher end models with all components made by them i.e. not using DT Swiss hubs. I'm planning to purchase a set of the "ultralight" carbon spoked wheels with the C66DB hubs myself. Only "drawback" seems to be that the deepest rim is only 55mm currently. They have also recently released some carbon spoked wheels with wavy rims too, like Zipp NSWs, might be interesting to see a video on those instead of the typical rims. They are really affordable, not sure how the quality will be. Hambini made a video a few months ago about one of their lower end models and had very good feedback despite the price.
Like the weight. Not sure about carbon spokes on the kind of roads (pot holes) we have in the Caribbean. Would love to see you review some chinese carbon cranksets (eg. ELILEE Carbon Fibre Crank). There is some weight saving there and better power transfer (we know you like stiff) vs aluminum. Still waiting for your review of the Chinese ospw (think it was og-evkin)
Hey Patrick, it would be nice to see you review the SuperTeam 2023 All Carbon (wave and sharkfin) wheels. They are not so expensive. But they have very wide spokes.
I will check this one out. The missing rim tape is a bit foolish; however, must brands from the West do not include spare spokes. They may throw in break pads or tubeless valves. I am looking for some modern wheels with 21 to 23 internal and these may just fit the bill.
Straight spokes do pop out. Had a crash and had 2 come loose abd pop out. The new winspace with nub to stop this make me feel a lot better. Super stoked to see dt swiss style hubs coming out in other brands.
If nothing else having no spare spokes can put potential customers off. So for a few extra dollars they need it to secure orders. I recieved a set of alloy gravel wheels today for £300 gbp and even they had Tubeless tape fitted, spare spokes and valves.
@@PatrickLino quite possibly but they look good. I too have the Magene heart rate monitor and never missed a beat (no pun intended). Wahoo was always dropping from zwift.
I was considering these wheels since I think they look nice and I like the wider width for the same versatility factor you mentioned, but in addition to the missing spare spokes and no rim and tape bullet points, they weren't (and still aren't as far as I know) offering any kind of promo code which puts these wheels in a higher price point than their competitors while not necessarily offering a justification of the extra money in my opinion.
I still have yet to actually ride and test the wheels, but the 23mm int/ 30mm ext already makes these more versatile than both the latest Hypers and Elite Drive, while offering a DT-Swiss-like hub. Even my dedicated gravel wheels only have a 22mm internal width.
Winspace have stopped supplying spare spokes as of March 2023 To add to my comment, as and when you need them due to snapped spikes etc, they will send them to you free of charge (apparently)
Great video~ Agree on all points but want to point out that your click-bait title with the "DT Swiss Hubs" line is a little misleading. They're definitely copies of the DT Swiss system but not DT Swiss hubs. And... they should come pre-taped!! :)
@@PatrickLino you’re welcome. You didnt address my comment though. Lol. The hubs are t DT Swiss hubs. I’ve seen them in person and was at their launch in Malaysia.
Do you use the hole plug caps for tubes only, or should they be installed before the rim tape is installed? Also, I'm getting ready to order these and was wondering if I should order direct from Magene or from a distributor like pandapodium or ccache?
Whether tubeless or tubes...if you install tubeless rim tape like I did , you don't need to use those plugs. It's just easier. You can order via Magene website. I think my code: "Patrick" still works.
Hey @PatrickLino. Have you ever had a chance to review anything from Light Carbon? I'm considering ordering a carbon wheelset from one of these chinese carbon companies . i'm considering the Lightcarbon 700c Full Carbon Road Wheels With DT240 Hubs or the 180 hubs.
Light Bicycle, WheelsFar, and a few others custom wheel building brands - They are all more or less the same in terms of Chinese brands. Same city (Xiamen) and have access to all of the same spokes and hubs. Quite frankly unless they are offering some sort of patented rim design, I would go with the brand offering the best service and turn around time. Especially for the wheels under $1000
Best mid-depth set of wheels I've tested on this channel. I would go as far and say these and the Winspace Hyper D67 are my two favorite sets of wheels. If you need 50-60 depth buy these. If you need 60 depth and deeper get the Hypers, because Magene don't offer a 65mm depth wheel for these lol
@@PatrickLino thank you for the great information, Patrick! Sounds like phenomenal wheels as I’m looking for some 50 mm wheels at an affordable price relatively.🙌🏻👍🏻
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Agree on all fronts. Rims should be factory taped. In every scenario, they should be taped. Odd. The tape job on Elites is 👌
Also about the captive straight pull spoke redundancy, since i started banging on about that in every vid im finally starting to see the change! 😅
According to our good buddy Joe Panda a lot of companies are foregoing spare spokes. Besides being more cost effective (for the company), the logic is if you have a bad crash you most likely will require more than the 2-4 spokes supplied anyway.
@gbtidi Yes....I actually asked Peak Torque to chime on that topic.
I forgot to mention: The bearings are ceramic. Magene does include a set of plugs/grommets to cover each individual spoke hole. This a nice touch. However, and again, this and the tubeless rim tape should have been installed from the factory.
Hey Patrick, love your reviews! As for the rim tape, I applaud Magene for not installing it as many ppl will use the plugs to cover the spoke holes (for clincher use) instead of the tape. This way they don't have to remove it. They can gift it to a friend or use it in the future should they decide to go tubeless.
@@daswimmer4004 that is a great point. Plus, using plugs makes mounting tires easier than with tubeless tape.
Great review as always, and didn't even know that Magene sold wheels. I just reviewed their H603 heart rate monitor and it seems much more reliable than their former H64. Love the Toronto hat btw!
Thanks Henry! I find Magene's HR monitors more reliable than Wahoo's
yo, you're pushing out a lot of content again!
Looking forward to your Scott Foil build ;) I am still debating weather i should also try a chinese frame soon...
Keep it up patty!
Thank you kind sir! Hoping to have it built for 4th of July 😈
Great weight and love the updated internal and external widths !
28c at a minimum.
Another great video. Yeah, they blew it on the rim tape... that's key. Enjoy your vaca👍🏾
Turns out all Chinese brands are omitting spare spokes with purchase 😮
Loved the review always nice to see something on a wheelset I was unaware of. My cousin is looking to get a wheelset from Boyd Cycling so I would love to see something from them.
Hey there! I've been eyeing some of Boyd's offerings and I'm interested. Thanks for the suggestion. 🔥
No spare spokes is a huge fail. I'm gonna speak to Magene and make sure they supply them going forward.
Few months ago I've read at some wheel brand website, can't remember which one, that they're stop supplying spare carbon spokes with the wheels for some environmental reasons, maybe it's the case with magene too 🤔
You should speak to Winspace while you are at it, they aren't including spare spokes with their Hyper 2023 wheels anymore either.
@@marshymarsh403 Dang you’re right. I just got the scoop as to why
@@marshymarsh403 aha, that's the brand where I've read this information 👍
That's just a cheap excuse for cutting costs
The magene heart rate monitor has been more reliable than wahoo's, also I like the color options 👍🏽...
I wholehearted agree with you. I've had plenty of dropouts on Zwift using the Wahoo chest HR monitor.
Great video, I’m looking forward to hearing more of how they treat you and how they perform. Thanks for the content
"Should" have a first ride by 4th of July!
I'd love to see a video on ProX wheels, specifically their higher end models with all components made by them i.e. not using DT Swiss hubs. I'm planning to purchase a set of the "ultralight" carbon spoked wheels with the C66DB hubs myself. Only "drawback" seems to be that the deepest rim is only 55mm currently. They have also recently released some carbon spoked wheels with wavy rims too, like Zipp NSWs, might be interesting to see a video on those instead of the typical rims. They are really affordable, not sure how the quality will be. Hambini made a video a few months ago about one of their lower end models and had very good feedback despite the price.
ProX - Interesting. Have not heard of them until now. This is why I love the cycling community. Always new brands and stuff to learn about. Thank you!
Like the weight. Not sure about carbon spokes on the kind of roads (pot holes) we have in the Caribbean. Would love to see you review some chinese carbon cranksets (eg. ELILEE Carbon Fibre Crank). There is some weight saving there and better power transfer (we know you like stiff) vs aluminum. Still waiting for your review of the Chinese ospw (think it was og-evkin)
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Hey Patrick, it would be nice to see you review the SuperTeam 2023 All Carbon (wave and sharkfin) wheels. They are not so expensive. But they have very wide spokes.
Great suggestion 👍🏾
You should test the Light Bicycle AR25 with the carbon spokes. I’ve just ordered a set w DT180 hubs and they apparently weigh 920g for the set….
Crazy lightweight.
I will check this one out. The missing rim tape is a bit foolish; however, must brands from the West do not include spare spokes. They may throw in break pads or tubeless valves. I am looking for some modern wheels with 21 to 23 internal and these may just fit the bill.
Good thing is the rim tape job only takes like 5 minutes 👍🏾
are you still picking the db508's over Winspace & Elite Drive wheels? for this particular wheel depth?
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Ok, Mr. Workhorse. 3 vid in 3 days 🔥
And we aren't finished yet. Stay tuned! 😈
@@PatrickLino *Birdman rubbing his hands together*
Straight spokes do pop out. Had a crash and had 2 come loose abd pop out. The new winspace with nub to stop this make me feel a lot better.
Super stoked to see dt swiss style hubs coming out in other brands.
Indeed...
If nothing else having no spare spokes can put potential customers off. So for a few extra dollars they need it to secure orders. I recieved a set of alloy gravel wheels today for £300 gbp and even they had Tubeless tape fitted, spare spokes and valves.
Im gonna chalk this up to perhaps these were either being pre-prod wheels, or they were rushing to get these out the door.
@@PatrickLino quite possibly but they look good. I too have the Magene heart rate monitor and never missed a beat (no pun intended). Wahoo was always dropping from zwift.
I was considering these wheels since I think they look nice and I like the wider width for the same versatility factor you mentioned, but in addition to the missing spare spokes and no rim and tape bullet points, they weren't (and still aren't as far as I know) offering any kind of promo code which puts these wheels in a higher price point than their competitors while not necessarily offering a justification of the extra money in my opinion.
I still have yet to actually ride and test the wheels, but the 23mm int/ 30mm ext already makes these more versatile than both the latest Hypers and Elite Drive, while offering a DT-Swiss-like hub. Even my dedicated gravel wheels only have a 22mm internal width.
Good info again. Thanks
Thanks Dave!
Winspace have stopped supplying spare spokes as of March 2023
To add to my comment, as and when you need them due to snapped spikes etc, they will send them to you free of charge (apparently)
Great video~ Agree on all points but want to point out that your click-bait title with the "DT Swiss Hubs" line is a little misleading. They're definitely copies of the DT Swiss system but not DT Swiss hubs. And... they should come pre-taped!! :)
Thanks for watching. Have a great day!
@@PatrickLino you’re welcome. You didnt address my comment though. Lol. The hubs are t DT Swiss hubs. I’ve seen them in person and was at their launch in Malaysia.
@@VeloGrapher Fantastic. Thanks again for watching! ❤️
@@PatrickLino is this a bot replying??
@@VeloGrapher Yes
I would love to hear how stiff they are… I love the stiffer racer wheels
Once my TanTan x38 is built. Hopefully next week!
Do you use the hole plug caps for tubes only, or should they be installed before the rim tape is installed? Also, I'm getting ready to order these and was wondering if I should order direct from Magene or from a distributor like pandapodium or ccache?
Whether tubeless or tubes...if you install tubeless rim tape like I did , you don't need to use those plugs. It's just easier. You can order via Magene website. I think my code: "Patrick" still works.
Hey @PatrickLino. Have you ever had a chance to review anything from Light Carbon?
I'm considering ordering a carbon wheelset from one of these chinese carbon companies .
i'm considering the Lightcarbon 700c Full Carbon Road Wheels With DT240 Hubs or the 180 hubs.
Light Bicycle, WheelsFar, and a few others custom wheel building brands - They are all more or less the same in terms of Chinese brands. Same city (Xiamen) and have access to all of the same spokes and hubs. Quite frankly unless they are offering some sort of patented rim design, I would go with the brand offering the best service and turn around time. Especially for the wheels under $1000
Great info - do the wheels have a rider weight limit?
I'm asking them now. Based on all the other wheels with similar specs, these should have a rider limit of at least 100kg overall system weight.
Tks for the video, can the gold decal be replaced by other colors?
Thanks for watching! That would be a question for Magene.
Toronto represent
Word to Kardinal Offishall
Patrick, do you think there is a discount code for the Magene’s?
YES! I just got my code 3 days ago
Post it. I’ll use it
@@duncancycles Discount code is: "Patrick"
Dynamite, thank you very much!
Alternative to an alternative:)
It's like Inception but for wheels LoL
Does anyone know the rider weight max is on these wheels ? I checked with the manufacturer website and I couldn't find this information.
Thanks
How much do you weigh?
Any update on these wheels and there performance vs Winspace etc?
Best mid-depth set of wheels I've tested on this channel. I would go as far and say these and the Winspace Hyper D67 are my two favorite sets of wheels. If you need 50-60 depth buy these. If you need 60 depth and deeper get the Hypers, because Magene don't offer a 65mm depth wheel for these lol
@@PatrickLino thank you for the great information, Patrick! Sounds like phenomenal wheels as I’m looking for some 50 mm wheels at an affordable price relatively.🙌🏻👍🏻
You have a Magene power meter yet?
Nope
Pro X carbon 400 USD wheels
Interesting. You are not the first to suggest that brand.
@@PatrickLino Light carbon frames etc sister company
The maximum weight is 120kg
Get your hands on some campy Bora ultra WTO
How much those cost lol?
@@PatrickLino heard you were sponsored 🤪
@@U.s.e.r.3493 GOT ‘EEEM 🤣
Yoooooo!
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Some people want a speciel brand of rimtape.....so no reason to put it on just for people to rip it off
Interesting…
Sway after Wayne Brady dropped bars:
ALL OF YOU OTHER TH-camRS BETTER CHECK YOUR SHIT IF YOU AINT READY TO DROP 3 DAYS IN A ROW THEN DONT UPLOAD AT ALL
Hahahaha (fire siren / Funk Flex bomb)
Why wouldn't you just run your bikes tubless?
Tubeless for road is unnecessary. I run tubeless on my gravel bikes.
[Technical]••••••••∆•••{Lino}••••[Technicool]. Patrick plays in that zone and we love him for it.
Haha I try to at least