Dune: Part Two - Spoiler Review!
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Dune 2 is out and I can finally talk SPOILERS! Join me on the discussion as we talk about it all! Denis Villeneuve brings us the epic second chapter of the classic Frank Herbert novel. Timothee Chalamet, Zendaya, Josh Brolin, Rebecca Ferguson, Florence Pugh and much more make up the star studded cast. KristianHarloff gives the spoiler heavy discussion of the film.
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Watched it twice and the fight between paul and feyd was pure gold and irulan was an absolute blast of a character
Loved it!!!! 🎉 my boyfriend & I were looking for showtimes and theater after theater, show after show sold out here in Boston! The love for a real cinematic experience is alive and well here!!
When Villeneuve says he doesn't believe in dialogue, I feel like Stillgard: "The Master of dialogue is so humble he doesn't admit he's the master, proving he's the master!"
😂😂😂
I love this movie, but it doesn't have memorable dialogue. I think you're confusing good character moments with dialogue. I have seen the movie 3 times in imax, so clearly, I'm a fan. Can you give me a memorable one liner ?
Denis prefers to show you than to tell you what’s going on. That’s why I love this movie . Figure what’s going on . Puzzle it .
@@jasonthomas9319 dune is not a tacky franchise based on "memorable one liners".. and memorable is not the same as good. thank god they didn't feel the need to add catch-phrases memes to this script.
@@yeahiagree1070 Stilgar being memed hard though, and not the film's doing but the worm bucket too
Stilgar was the funniest character! “Muad’Dib is much to humble,” was one of the best lines to make everyone laugh.
Yup
In a weird way it reminds me of Monty Python's Life of Brian.
"I am not the Messiah! Will you please listen!? I'm not the Messiah, do you understand? Honestly!"
"Only the true Messiah would not claim His divinity"
My theatre was mostly quiet during those comedic bits, i didnt care i was LOLing alone like a weirdo
As it's written.
@@MrDarkweaver That's exactly what I thought about in the theaters too. I was like that's something right out of Monty Python.
That scene during the council in the South of Arrakis, that was something else.
Gave me goosebumps.
Top 3 scenes in the film easily. At the moment it’s at the top for me.
There were like 8-9 scenes where I was just absolutely blown away. No other movie in the last 20 years has been this epic
that was my favorite part bro, 10/10 delivery by timothy didn't think he could pull that off from his interviews lol
@@dandyjandon4231"DAWGGGGGGG" in a way I guess that is foreboding haha
Stilgar: Wait so you don’t think you’re the Messiah? That’s such a Messiah thing to say.
Hahah
Bautista played Rabban perfectly, revealing his cowardice. He's brutal because he's a bully. His expression when he turned and ran after catching a glimpse of Muadib was priceless
Sadly wish there were more time with that Rabban.
Yes! Such like outwards showings of rage and anger. Then the little subtle showings of fear and inadequacy that’s the ACTUAL source of his rage
Bautista is a good actor. Hope to see him in bigger role or play as the lead.
In terms of Paul vs Anakin. I didn't see it as Paul embracing the dark side per se. He explained earlier that he can see all of the possible futures now, and there's only one path forward for them to not be defeated by their enemies. It isn't a path he wants to take though. Billions of deaths, a galactic war, not being with Chani, etc. Anakin chose the dark side because he wanted to, Paul is doing what is necessary to protect what he cares about regardless of the personal cost. Like in Loki season 2, Paul has chosen his burden.
Anakin chose the dark side for the same reason you say Paul did: to protect those he cares about. He thought it was necessary. He didn't just wake up and say "the dark side is cool."
@@jmorgan3977 It's been so long since I saw the prequels, I guess I'm forgetting how it all went down.
There's no real Paul vs Anakin, Star wars was influenced by Dune to begin with. It's more like Anakin's character is/was loosely based on Pauls.
@@jmorgan3977_The dark side is cool_
Right - instead he said _I don’t like sand. It’s rough._
Where was Chani when we needed her. 😂
@@GPsarakisHerbert has it right - Star Wars - which I like mind you - is really a kiddie version of Dune.
The thing I noticed that I haven't heard anyone else talking about, is that when Paul killed Feyd it was a mirror of his fight with Gurney in part 1 where he stabbs Gurney in the shoulder and gets the "look down my lord, you'd have joined me in death" and you see he's been stabbed in the gut.
Great call. Now I gotta watch them back to back
I wonder, did anyone else see Paul's win in the knife fight near the end as a callback to his first fight with Gurney in the first movie? It seemed to me a similar situation, just reversed.
Along with Chani's fight in the desert mirroring Paul's dream fight in Part 1.
Nice detail, Gurney gave Paul the W (along with Stilgar, his mom, his dad, Chani, etc)
@@travisspazz1624hard to say the fight scenes were messy
Its clearly designed for the callback
Yes, lots of callbacks to Part One (as Part One was foreshadowing Part Two), such as Chani’s telling Paul that Dune was beautiful were the opening lines of Part One. Also, I wish people would stop calling this a sequel. As with Tolkien’s LOTR/PJ’s trilogy, it is a continuation, not a sequel. Dune 3 will be a sequel if it comes from Dune Messiah.
"Silence!!!"
Amazing
I liked when she replied in a whisper, "Abomination."
@@TrueBagPipeRockthe fear in her voice was crazy
I think the moment that changed for Paul, was where he’s told that he has to challenge Stilgar to be allowed to speak and he refuses and gives a speech anyway almost defiantly against their ways and traditions… it was sort of that moment where I was like “ahh, he’s putting himself above everyone and their beliefs now” it was like the Paul that respected their traditions and such was gone
the way the movie ended when Jessica was talking to her daughter about what's gonna happen now. gave me attack of the clones vibe with the holy wars have begun. got chills and a fat smile on my face
the third act for me is the strongest, the fights at the end and TC performance was perfect
After watching this film I have never wanted to be a filmmaker more. Denis just knows what to do best. The action, tension, scenes of dialouge, worldbuilding, Grieg Frasers cinematography shines. Hans Zimmer the undisputed current goat cooked up another masterful score. What more do I have to say?
Just breathtaking stuff
I’m not a big Sci-Fi nut, but THIS movie melted my face off and OBLITERATED my fucking brain!!! 🤯 What a phenomenal achievement in film, one that’ll be talked about for decades to come! The bar has been raised in massive ways. Insanely gripping and beautiful!
Ps. Nolan should be grateful, that Dune 2 moved out of 2023, cause this BEAST is a lock for BEST PICTURE, at the Oscars next year!
“Don’t waste your water, not even on a tear” 👏🏾 that scene chef kiss. Feyd response to Paul saying their cousins straight savage 🔥. Baustisa’s acting has greatly improved. Loved the theme of Feyd being unhinged, but having honor in battle in which foreshadows his death.
I just cant understand anyone saying zendaya blew them away 😒. Shalomet, Ferguson, bardiem, butler, skaarsgard .....these actors blew me away...
Comparing any of this to the Star Wars prequels is a disservice to Dune. I would compare Paul's rise to that of Michael Corleone.
Yesssss....that makes so much sense.
I love the fight between paul and feyd. That background made it epic
I loved how it shows Paul use Gurney's combat training from part 1 in the final fight with a blade strategically positioned to kill his opponent.
Yeah but gurney didn’t have a knife in him already
Dune part 1 and 2 combined just may be the best science fiction movie ever made! And this is coming from a huge star wars fan! Both part 1 and 2 were incredible theater experiences! I was lucky to have seen part 1 in the cinema back in 2021,and I have been a huge Dune fan ever since.
That was an incredible film. Saw it once in Imax and again last night on a local bigscreen. I loved how they spent a good chunk with the fremen and then ramped up with introducing Feyd Rautha. Impressed how they film that arena scene in IR. One of the best films I've seen in a while. Bring on Messiah.
The south council scene, the power in his voice the way he moved and and the way his face was went from a boy who just wanted to be at peace to war/ commander and rage
when I found out Paul was half __________ I was like WHAAAT
That plays out in several books.
Not half. Quarter
That was the luke darthvader moment I never saw coming
Honestly, I think the worst part about this film is that how badly people misinterpret the film. It’s also masterful in how Denis adapts concepts that will be addressed in Messiah, because of how Paul was portrayed very much how we see him in part 1 for all of the book. But through Denis’ knowledge of the world, he manages to make this adaptation one of the truest adaptations while also going in a very different direction than the books. It’s a technical masterpiece, sure. But the more I think about the writing, the better the film is. As well as providing depth to all of the different factions especially the Fremen, which are not as spiritually divided as the film. Denis tells the story Herbert wishes he told imo.
How have people been misinterpreting the film?
@@LukeTG1_TTV relegating it to a white savior film, stuff like that.
@@knoober3756 ah wow. That’s a reach 🤣
@@LukeTG1_TTVThinking Paul is the Hero
@@husker4life109 I know he’s not
Seen it twice. Even better the 2nd time. It’s hard to top the IMAX but even seeing it in a regular theater, it was still impressive and had amazing sound design all throughout the film. Loved it! Wanna see it again!
Seated for Dune 2 right now! Looking forward to watching this afterwards!
Enjoy!!
There was one point in the film that was jarring to me. When Paul has to cross the desert by himself to prove that he’s the chosen One. Chani appears to help him out and they are practicing the sand walk. Then ALL OF THE SUDDEN it cuts to an entire group of Fremen hiding under the sand with Paul and Chani. That was confusing to me and it almost seemed like a scene was cut there.
I heartily concur! Genius Denis and Brilliantly Multi-Talented Zendaya and Timothee' should be remembered at OSCAR time. Greig, Javier, Austin, Rebecca, Hans, and the Sound technicians should be, too.
I was just in pure awe after seeing Dune: Part Two. I saw it last Thursday afternoon and there wasn't that many in the audience in a IMAX theater with a young crowd, but for everybody that was there they didn't get up right away because I know they just were blown away by what they just saw. I actually bought the first movie on 4K DVD because I felt it was worth owning knowing the positive reception Part Two was getting and after seeing the first I was so ready for the next and that was how to do it. You said it Kristian. The movie is a spectacle!
Lady Jessica was having a brotha down bad. I aint gonna lie. But i just walked out of it and this thing was a wild. I was skeptical because i couldnt get along with the first. But the second film was all too worth the wait.
She a BADDIEEEEE
I feel like I’ve seen Denis mature and change so much as a filmmaker. Started following him around 2015 when I saw Sicario in theaters and he offers me something new and insightful every time. Will go down as one of the greatest all time and I’m so happy for him with these two films.
Wow this watch company is really making a hard push this weekend. Just saw a similar ad with Jeremy Jahns.
It was hunting and terrifying. The visible change in Paul and his mother was so hunting. I loved it. They stayed true to the book.
Just got home from the theatre and wow, just wow I’m blown away 10/10. Was so happy Josh Brolins character survived
I'm in the UK. Saw it midnight yesterday and then again few hours ago. Amazing.
As a fan of the books I loved the ending. For the book readers Denis added the part after taking the water of life where Paul tells Jessica that Chani will come to understand, that he has seen it. But at the very end he chose to leave out Paul telling everyone in the room that he has no intention of being with Irulan, that this is just a political marriage to cement his rule and Irulan will have no power. Then we see Chani betrayed leave into the desert. Also In the book we dont see the Holy War(Jihad) start at the end the way the movie did. I like it because it makes the movie feel like a cliff hanger. Like we know there’s no way the Messiah movie isn’t coming. The Fremen becoming the most powerful group of people in the empire plus Paul starting to terraform Arrakis will probably be used to bring Chani back to his side. Without Chani and Paul’s love Messiah doesn’t work. So I love that Denis made sure to let us know in that scene with Jessica that he too knows the story of Messiah hinges on that love.
you describe exactly how i felt at the end of the movie. it was an experience
it really was!!
I highly recommend reading the book or listening to it on Audible its my favorite book of all time
I watched 2 last night. I loved every minute of it. The amount of talent in every aspect of film making is truly amazing!! I had goosebumps four or five times throughout the movie, and that’s just the score!!! They also had a lot of cojones in getting the weirder part of the book in there and even bigger to get it right! Dennis nailed it!!!
Just sat in my seat in the theater (Hey there's Perri Nemiroff on the pre-previews). Look forward to watching this video in about 3 hours! I haven't clicked on anything Dune in weeks trying to avoid spoilers. Somehow I succeeded.
I just got home from seeing it in IMAX and I literally just sat there in awe as the credits rolled over Zimmer’s score. This film knocked me out of my socks. Denis made some choices that diverged from the book, some of them I miss, others I’m glad for the change. I would’ve liked Paul to have shed a tear for Jamis, as that was seen in the book by the Fremen as a sign of selfless reverence for their fallen brother. I also would have liked to see the greenhouse from the book. I do love the way the Fremen were divided as fanatics and nonbelievers, and felt it provided more realistic depth to the people that I don’t recall getting from the books. Performances were incredible all around, but Chalamet surprised me with the gravitas he commanded in the third act after his turn. Butler absolutely nailed his portrayal of Feyd in my opinion. And I loved the moments of comedy from Stilgar peppered throughout to ease the tension a bit. Greig Fraser killed the cinematography, and Hans Zimmer’s score somehow both stood out and blended into the movie so amazingly well. I could gush for days about this film. Absolute masterpiece. I can’t wait to watch Part 1 and Part 2 back to back.
Rabban was always supposed to fail with Feyd coming in like a Messiah.
Part 2 was terrific for me, & I agree, the experience, differently, an awesome experience. I watched it on IMAX, got emotional with Paul finally mastering Shai-Hulud.
And that moment when Paul wanted to be named after Muad'Dib ❤
Hey Kristian! Was a huge fan of Jedi Council back in that day. Missed hearing your voice and miss the old excitement of looking forward to new Star Wars movies. Hoping you’re doing well and just wanted to say I think you do a great job! Take care!
Welcome back! Thanks Adam.
Watched it a few hours ago. I feel like I'm going insane, I need to see it again!
Absolutely was blown away. Saw it in IMAX and it was mind blowing
Just saw it. It's not even in the same conversation as Empire Strikes Back or The Two Towers. Honestly I think the first film is structurally better overall. Better paced. More compelling political intrigue. This film is 2 hours of straight Stilgar hero worship. It was good but it's being severely over hyped right now.
Saw it last night, Blew me away! Your dead on, what a masterpiece!
Rewatched DUNE 1 last night, after being blown away by DUNE 2 IMAX on Thursday - and 100% agree that seeing 2 has made 1 quite a bit better for me. I didn't read the books either and now knowing the path Paul was on, I understand all of the seeds so much better that were planted in the first film. And also thought of the Empire Strikes Back comparison - more so in the 'I felt I needed humor in the picture, and yet I couldn't have gags.' quote from Irvin Kirshner. Dune 2 implemented that perfectly. Cheers!
I like a lot about this movie. I do think the hype is overselling it a bit.
There is no momentum to the pace of this movie. In many ways it feels like a events happen one after the other without any mounting tension. I think that could have been fixed if we had gotten to see how Paul as The Fremen leader slowly got the upper hand over the harkonnen. They started out already spanking Bautista. And if that was the case, they should have brought in Fayd Ratha sooner and have the battle of armies be more pronounced so that by the time Fayd and Paul face off their is a more tangible rivalry based on that long war / conflict they’ve been in.
It just doesn’t have a great sense of pacing. The ending rules but that 2nd act is so languid with little to no new info being communicated on our end. And we don’t even get a sense of the sublime thru environment like AVATAR 2 does so well with the underwater sequences.
Dune 2 is really good but there’s just some stuff keeping it from greatness unfortunately.
Seen last night amazing 5/5! Also watched it with my mate who Is Australian film editor so it was interesting to get he’s take on it!
The only thing he said was Feyd introducing was to long other wise loved it!
Finally saw it last night! Loved it and can’t wait for Dune 3! 🖤
Just saw it in imax and loved it! Can't wait for your discussion tomorrow
7:05 He wasn’t the Vader. He was the Dooku.
Paul doesn’t turn to the “dark side” as the film says “there are no sides” all these characters are complicated human beings. To reduce them down to “goodie” “baddie” does a massive disservice to the source material. Paul is a tragic character either by accident or his own cowardice.
Def goes dark
Thanks for your fantastic review Kristian. I saw it last night with my son in IMAX, here is my review.
Dune: Part One was my favourite movie of 2021.
Dune 2 is a masterpiece.
It has been a very long time since a movie has left me speechless.
It is Denis Villeneuve’s magnum opus. Very much like how Christopher Nolan crowned his career with Oppenheimer last year, this is Villeneuve’s greatest ever movie. Similar to Peter Jackson's, The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003), Dune 2 represents another evolution of cinema as an art form. I don't use that word lightly. Like a vice, the story locks you in from the opening frame and at just 15 minutes shy of 3 hours, this movie absolutely flies by, not once during it's runtime was I bored.
The only downside is my cinema going adventure's of 2024 has peaked with Dune: Part Two, nothing will compare to this movie for the rest of the year.
So, the best way to get my head straight after watching it is to split it up;
Cinematography
Every aspect of how this movie looks is frankly staggering. DP Greig Fraser not only makes each frame look like a stunning photograph, his use of camera angles, lighting and the natural environment is amazing. The battle scenes are jaw dropping and the sense of scale, especially the sand worms in IMAX is eye watering. I had spine tingles for most of the movie.
Sound and Score
The sound is incredible, as I saw it in IMAX (which I implore you to do if able) leaves you shaken in your seat. You will never forget where and when you first saw and heard those sand worms. The score by the legendary composer Hans Zimmer is equally superb and is used to amazing effect.
Cast
As for the cast, each member of the star studied line-up absolutely bring their A game to the table. This movie makes Timothée Chalamet a man. Gone is the petulant son of Duke Leto Atreides (Oscar Isaac). I think Chalamet is fast becoming this generation's DiCaprio. Zendaya was equally superb as his partner Chiani, as she continues to show that she is one of the leading actresses of her generation.
After his breakout role in Elvis (2022) and Apple TV+ series Masters of the Air (2024) Austin Butler is a revelation as the psychopathic Feyd-Rautha, beloved nephew to Baron Harkonnen.
No Country for Old Men alum Josh Brolin and Javier Bardem resume their respective roles as Gurney Halleck and Stilgar offering gravitas and wise council to the younger cast who take centre stage.
Florence Pugh as the emperors daughter Princess Irulan is excellent as is the great veteran actor Christopher Walken (In a small but pivotal role) as the Emperor.
My only “complaint” as such is that Dave Batista's character Beast Rabben felt under served and was reduced to a bit of a one note character screaming out orders whilst slipping further out of the good graces of his uncle. On that subject, Baron Harkonnen (Skarsgard) himself so central to the original film is also somewhat side lined in this second part of the movie.
Action
Whilst I in no way shared this sentiment, there were some people who said Dune: Part One was boring and lacked action. The same cannot be said for this continuing instalment.
The action in this movie is breathtakingly shot and choreographed. Whether it was wide scale battles or hand to hand combat it felt exhilarating, organic and primal.
Special Effects
A seamless blend of top drawer CGI and jaw dropping practical effects. Effortlessly combined with filming on location in Abu Dhabi.
Dune: Part One and Dune: Part Two, is this generations Star Wars. It however goes further than that, it is Star Wars for grown-ups. There is nothing Disney has done with Star Wars to rival or even come close to Villeneuve's incredible movie. It makes the recent MCU and DC movies look what they are, light weight tensionless candy floss crap.
What Villeneuve has achieved here is simply staggering.
It reminds you of why the medium of cinema exists.
It is a cinematic masterpiece.
Denis Villeneuve and team deserve all the adulation, box office success and awards they can get.
My Verdict - Unmissable
Both Arrivals and Prisoners are better. Id argue the first film is structurally above this film as well. Still a good movie though.
I wouldn't call it "The Dark Side" but rather he needs to choose the path of "Necessary Evil" to be able to achieve his revenge over the Harkonnens and the Emperor. In Messiah, it's even more complicated with the choices Paul has to make. The story of Paul Muad'Dib is a tragedy above all else.
It is tragedy because he choose the path to war (path of the dark side)
@@zigurdur92 That's a simplified, easy version. In Messiah he doesn't choose the "dark side" and it's also tragic.
In Children, Alia is the main tragic character, mostly because of others choices, not her own.
I was SO ready to hear the bagpipes at the last battle and was a little bit sad tbh 😭🫡
Rebecca Ferguson and Javier Bardem were the heavy hitters of the movie!!! Beautiful performances
Yes Kristen. Thanks for Point of view. Looking forward to You and Johns Review Will try to listen Live.
Loved this movie Villeneuve is a master. I can't wait to see it again. There's something about the way he shot this movie that i always felt a little sad when they move to a new scene. I couldn't take my eyes off of it. Loved it!
Seen it last night in a Regal RPX theatre. It’s literally a MASTERPIECE!!
The right amount of hype. My friend and I just got done with our third viewing and have 3 more to go. This movie just keeps getting better with each subsequent watching. I would’ve loved if Denis would’ve taken the movie to the three hr mark to include a few small things like slightly longer end battle sequence and rabban/gurney fight, short snippet of Paul and the southern Fremen fighting to get to the Emperor, etc
I'm going to say it was overhyped, but still excellent. To put my opinion in more context, I had expectations so high, they were practically getting burned by the sun lol. But the movie still reached the moon, maybe even Venus.
It's not perfect, it's not the best movie in history, but it is still EXCELLENT!!! I mean, no movie is perfect, and only one movie can be the best, and even then, the "best" movie ever is subjective. I will say that this movie deserves awards, and may well be the best movie of the year.
I would tell people not to set unreasonable expectations for it, but that it's still a great, solid movie. It does the book justice, no small feat for a story once considered unfilmable. I'd recommend seeing it in theaters, and seeing it in IMAX.
I give it 4.5/5 stars.
Just got done seeing it. What an experience. The only complaint is not enough Austin Butler! Man did he ever just pull you in. Every scene he was in, he just grabs you and demands attention.
I absolutely enjoyed just seeing a film that was true cinema and spectacle. I had chills with some of those battle scenes & with some of the scenes with Paul finally becoming who he was supposed telling the fremen who he is. with the hanz zimmer score on top of it I’m definitely seeing again. It’s so refreshing to see a sci-fi film with this kind of scale too it
Once he drank the water of life he wasn’t really Paul anymore. He had all the knowledge and wisdom of all the Reverend Mothers past, combined with the clear foresight of all potential futures. Spending his life with Chani wasn’t an option after that. Throughout both films it’s shown that Paul needs to die for the Kwisatz Haderach to rise. He needs to drink the water of life to be able to see WHY he needed to drink it. Paul can’t see why his destiny is required before he has clear foresight… the scene where Jamis tells him he needs to see. Nothing will make sense until he can “see”…
He spends his life with Chani. They have children. He just can't marry her. Irulan is his political wife. He straight up tells her they will never share a bed.
But there are political forces trying to destroy them both. And their love for each other.
thank you for calling it one film! i can't wait to watch parts 1 and 2 (and later 3) together
Enjoyed the hell out of Part Two today and will see it at least 3 more times in theaters. As of this moment however, I think I prefer the first film. If I had to nitpick anything I’d say my biggest gripes would be the first hour not having much variety to it and Feyd probably should have been introduced sooner. Also Zimmer’s score just borders on noise sometimes with no melodies or music. Paul and Chani’s flute love song is nice though.
Now I just need to be put into hibernation for 5-10 to make the Messiah movie get here quicker.
So hard for me to compare them both. It was one movie IMO
I am going again tomorrow for the 2nd time and 3rd time on Tuesday 😂
@@TheKristianHarloff I feel the same way. It's all one movie. This part 2 begins just minutes after part 1.
Haha...into hibernation
Essentially, Dune Messiah will be the "Empire Strikes Back"...
I sure hope. I think cutting the first book in two hurt BOTH films.
I originally watched Dune Part 1 in the cinema back in 2021. I knew nothing about the books. I don't remember how I felt after seeing it, but until recently, I never went back and re-watched it. A lot of the Lore, I have trouble wrapping my brain around (in terms of explaining it out loud) that being said, both movies are incredible, and I'm going to pay attention to Denis V in the near future.
Fantastic movie! Enjoyed listening to you talk about how much you love it.
I think this movie had an editing issue. Austin Butler should have been introduced WAY earlier in the film. It felt like it was over an hour and a half in, and it just completely lessens the impact of their fight at the end. He was easily the best part. Too much time in the desert. Should have intercut more with other things going on. It was a visual spectacle but story wise I feel lile its filled with holes (I rralize im on an island).
I finally watched D2 this morning. I loved it so much! I was so impressed with everyone.
Kristian, you’ve gotta give the books a go, cause the “dark side” is a bit simplified and the treatment of Paul after he takes the water of life was one of my only disappointments in the film. Paul’s predicament is more like seeing all possible futures, he is trying to take the least monstrous path…even though it will also involve starting a holy war and building on his own myth. There is a scene in Part One that really did a better job of selling that conflict, and I would have liked a bit more time where you were rooted with Paul in that part of the book. Instead that’s really when the POV of the film shifts to Chani.
I freaking loved when Paul turns to the darkside. Anakin is one of my favorite characters in SW because I grew up with the prequels. And seeing how Paul was inspiration for Anakin makes me love both properties even more. I want to try read all first 3 Dune books but i'm affraid if the writing is going to be too sophisticated for a newbie.
As long as one day there’s a way for me to watch the entire 5 and a half hour runtime all at once I’ll be happy
I’ve never been so nervous knowing the the third one isn’t made yet lol because I just need to know 100% we’ll be getting it. I NEED MORE of this world!
Did a Dune double feature with my wife yesterday. Started Dune 1 at noon and went straight to Dune 2 at 4. We enjoyed both, thought the politics and visuals were the strongest elements. Weakest points for us was definitely the Voice/prophecy elements which took a back seat in the first movie which is probably why the first was our favorite. The only gripe I have is that throughout the entire story Paul was using his mother and the prophecy as a means to get his revenge as a political ploy, going as far as to defy the Voice in the first movie. In the second we get to the end and he just decides, "I guess I'll willingly start the Holy War that I've spent two full movies trying to avoid". Like I said, a really strong pair of movies, would enjoy a third but isn't required, we liked them both a lot but had one or two gripes. 4.5/5 Schmoes for the pair as a whole (4.75 for the 1st and 4.25 for the 2nd).
It would be nice to see a TV series of the same quality about the Bene Gesserit!
This film was everything!!! It satisfied everything I hoped for with the second half of the Dune book. The cinematography and sound mix was so great!!!!! I’m even more excited for the Bene Gesserit show now!!!! Dune: Part Three or Dune: Messiah is going to be INSANE!!!!!! 🙌🔥🙌🔥🙌🔥
Paul fights at the end as a last try to escape his future, He bould not see the future past a fight with Feyd. Love the movie but it needed thectwo year time jump to make sensem
Fun fact: Paul has the Bene Gesserit control over every atom of his body (read the book), both from Jessica's training and from the presence of all the memories of the Reverend Mothers so that, even if Feyd's knife stab to him had been fatal to any man including him, Paul would have been able to control his micro-physiology to heal himself from that wound.
Feyd did not stab him in the novel or the David Lynch interpretation, but still. He easily could have. Which is probably what happened in the final knife-fight scene here. 😊
All of these figures are just mere puppets in the hands of the sisters that what I noticed. Paul was made by his mother into a power hungry character that was also lead by dynasty kind of like Anakin. The movie wasn't hyped enough in my opinion it was a great movie 9.8/10 for me.
Most, not all, of my issues with the film were that I wanted MORE of a particular scene or story beat. Otherwise it was a brilliant sci-fi epic!
Why exactly should I fear Feyd as good fighter? All we've seen is him fighting (bear with me) 3 drugged prisoners with a fucking protective shield. That doesn't sound like badass to me, it sounds like a coward. Yeah one of them isn't drugged and he takes his shield of but I'm sure they haven't kept they prisoners in good physical and mental state to be nearly at their best so he should be able to easily fight one weakened fighter. Lunatic he is for sure but that doesn't make him super good fighter.
Saw the movie Friday and my friend saw it Saturday. I a non-book reader and him a book reader. We had a 3 hour discussion about the film. Us both thinking it is an incredible cinematic achievement. He threw around words like perfect and 10/10. I on the other hand, Loved it a lot more than that but didn't think it was perfect (Plus I hate numeric scores for art). It's a masterpiece for sure. And now has become my all time favourite movie. It does what I've always wanted from Sci-fi. Make me believe this exists. And from Dune: Part One I felt the wheels turning and totally loved it. Then Dune: Part Two came and pushed the boundaries for me. I think this is one of the best movies ever made and has ascended to godhood in the movie pantheon. I don't see how this doesn't get Best Picture in 2025. Every aspect of this movie is astronomical. From Timothée Chalamet's amazing performance (My favourite), to Austin Butler, Rebecca Ferguson, to fucking Dave Baustista. I could talk for days about the masterful hand used to create this movie.
Movie was so good my only complaint is that the first book wasn’t broken out into 3 movies rather than 2. Just felt a little too chaotic and fast paced when there is soooo much potentially untapped development
I needed that about 30 more minutes... because that final scene with chani .......
It's a hammock movie - sagged in the middle
The special effects in both these movies are fricken invisible. How the hell did they do that??
Walken - I LOVE him. Legend.
Didn't like that he was in this. Couldn't believe him in the role.
He's just too HIM, for me (in everything, now). 🤷🏽♂
Loved it! I would have rather seen Alia give the Baron the Gob Jabbar like she did in the book and have him die that way, but I understand why they did what they did and shortened the time period. Dune 1 & 2 - 9.5/10, and spectacular experience. Anytime you try to convert a book like this to a movie, there will always be changes. Same thing happened in The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, in which I saw 13 times in the theater. I saw The Phantom Menace 13 times in the theater as well. I would go see Dune 2 another 12 times in the theater, definitely! (Checking to see how much PTO I have..)
I liked part one a lot, but I love part two! The entire time I sat in the theatre watching it all I could think was this is why I love cinema, this is why movie theatres were invented! Dune 2 is a true cinematic experience. And, yes, I read the book.
I’d say the hype was on point. It wasn’t overly hyped or under hyped. Great movie, absolutely loved it. I love both of these movies and I see them as one really long movie. Instant classic.
When i watched dune tonight paul reminded me of bran from game of thrones. can see dunes impact on all forms of storytelling.
SILENCE!!!!!!!
Does anyone agree with me that the movie is just ok? Technical masterpiece - yes. Great love story and film overall - no. I’m not trying to be a hater, I’m just truly surprised by all of the adoration. People are comparing it to the “The Empire Strikes Back” and the “The Dark Knight”, that seems insane to me. Just curious if I’m the only one. 🤷🏻♂️
I liked the movie. I read the books about forty years ago. It helps having knowledge of the story. My husband was unfamiliar with the books and he got lost in the movie. I had to explain a lot to him afterwards. Was it the best movie I ever seen? No. Is it in the top twenty? Yes. I am old . I've seen thousands of movies. So when I say it's in the top 20, that says a lot. The problem with the movie is the actual story. It is not a feel good movie. The story is very dark. Star Wars for example was an upbeat movie. Good vs evil. Good triumphed. It makes you feel good. Dune is just the opposite. The special effects are awesome. The best I've seen
Thanks for the response. I would argue that “The Empire Strikes Back” and “The Dark Knight” are equally dark, if not darker. I just honestly felt like Dune part 2 was just ok. A quick example - the big battle scene at the end had no real tension, they basically dominated everyone easily and then immediately got to the emperor. Again, I’m only commenting on this since the movie is getting near universal praise, and is compared to all time great films. It’s perplexing to me. 🤔
Yep. It's not even in the same conversation as Empire Strikes Back or The Two Towers. It's good. But id argue the first film is overall a better film.
@@annebartells777Empire is night and day from Star Wars. It ends with Luke realizing his dad is hitler and he loses an arm, completely fails to save his friends, Han gets kidnapped and really the good guys lose. It's why it's arguably the greatest sequel of all time.
@@chriseden202exactly. The final battle was a fart in the wind. It's all quick cuts. It ends almost immediately after it starts. The rocket launcher sequence was far better! That final battle reminded me of the Harkonen invasion in the first film. It's there and then it isn't and it's over very quickly.
Loved it. Seen it twice already in Dolby Cinema. Yall have to see it in dolby, probably my favorite movie experience ive ever had. The worm ride scene was better than disneys soarin.
Austin Butler kept reminding me of Christian Bale-like qualities