The ride, the price, none of that stuff matters. What matters is LOOK at that thing. It looks bad ass. I cannot wait for this to start hitting dealerships.
@@timalan7406 There are similarities, but, no it isn't. That's like saying the new land cruiser is a Tundra because they both share the same frame. The transmission is different, all three differentials are different, the shocks and springs are different, drive shafts are different, there are way too many different parts. Some of the body, the trans and engine is different than a Prado. Most of the GX has been different than the 4runner.
Yes this is Lexus's Range Rover competitor. I'll tell you why this vehicle exists. My wife wants a Range Rover to drive to work and take our son to school. I want a car I can tow a boat or trailer with. We could afford a Range Rover but I don't want the hassle of dealing with the reliability problems.
My wife has the 2020 rx 350, I took my wife to test drive the new generation rx, she is like, “what is this all plastic thing? No wood, no leather dash, and the smoothness is also gone.” We kept the last gen RX instead traded in for a new one. Lexus has changed so much this generation, you will probably agree more to these two gentlemen more when you test drive the newer Lexus when it is time. I kid you not, Mazda and Hyundai feel more luxury than Lexus now days
I agree on the price. At 85K you start to look at the GLS/X7. Yes they’re targeting the off-road community, but again why have a Luxury trim with all these extra bits. It’s still a beautiful vehicle. People will buy this. This thing will be seen in suburbs for the next 25+ years. This is giving my dad has a good job vibes.
Loving my Luxury. Never plan to offroad much and I enjoy the slightly rougher ride and body roll. It's a fun car. The truck feel is spot on, I wanted that in a car that could tow and also have room for a family of five. It's a good fit.
The Overtrail (NOT +) at ~$73k is the sweet spot in the lineup. Here in Southern California dealers are either marking up $10-13k or installing useless options that can’t be removed that add up to the same amount of mark up. Need to wait a year or two for the market to cool down and the markups go away. The Overtrail is better than the new LC 250 because the cargo area is larger since there’s no hybrid battery
This is 100% correct. The Overtrail gets the e-KDSS, which is an excellent system that tames the bodyroll they were complaining about (they discuss this at about 5:30 in the video). It also leans into the off-road direction where the body-on-frame and solid-axle actually help. The Luxury trim is fighting the architecture. Getting the new GX in anything but the Overtrail trim is a wild decision.
Excellent review as usual. I think some of the trim choices on vehicles comes down to catering to people's impressions. Lets face it, a lot of folks buy cars just for their looks. Heck, I know of people who bought vehicles because they liked the color! One so-called "reviewer" referred to the smaller wheels on a vehicle as "being dorky", regardless of the fact that those wheels brought better fuel economy and a better ride, he would choose the bigger wheels just because they looked good. Some people are just gonna go for those big wheels regardless.
excellent review ha! the guy is holding on to the grab handles. I haven't driven the car yet but the body roll can never be that bad. Plus if it's rolling he doesn't need to hold the grab handles as you will literally see it rolling. I'm off to watch a less sensational review rather than this couple arguing
Lexus has a lot of GX lovers in their home market, mostly in urban environments. Upon seeing the Overtrail marketing, Japanese auto journalists voiced their concerns over lost civility at the launch event. Lexus created the luxury trims with these customers in mind.
@@Dillingham- “Civility “ is a very funny criticism. I know nothing about Japanese outdoor culture, or even if it exists. But apparently it must not be a very common thing to off road your vehicle in Japan if the auto press is concerned about “civility” which is a high brow type of comment from the ivory tower.
Hi, from Japan!! I have thought you might have been recording a new long trip video because it took a little bit of time for updating this newest video since the last one. I’m looking forward to seeing trip videos coming someday. By the way, I think this GX550 is a good car but the wheels are too huge. Car wheels of Toyota and Lexus have been going too huge and huge nowadays!!
It’s really a cool looking truck, but I simply do not have a use case for it and think our 22 MDX is tough to beat. About to turn 30k miles and really happy with it.
I love the GX550 because the boxy design gives great outward visibility and interior space. Also, the truck-like driving personality provides the GX550 with a real personality.
I’m a dad of 4 kids and severely limited on 6 seaters. I won’t drive a TX. It sounds like you don’t like this car as a 7 or 6 seater. What do you think are my options?
As a GX550 owner i disagree this boxy beast can turn on a dime and its fast. It drives like a sedan for its size category. Yes there is body roll but that is what gives it the truck feel. Never had i felt the sensation of rolling over. The suspension even on the premium trim is really nice. It might not have all the bells and whistles as the OT trim but it can do some serious off road things.
Thank you for saying the GX existence doesn't make sense. The G-wagon theory is really interesting, that makes so much sense. All of the influencers want g-wagons and Lexus wanted some of that market. When you see the 4runner, land cruiser, and GX, you would think the GX would be really luxurious and nice riding. But no it's not. And then they made a land cruiser off road trim too, which makes no sense. I'm on board with it now being called the Lexus G-wagon.
The previous generation GX460 was based on the Land Cruiser Prado not the 4Runner. The current GX550 is based on the Land Cruiser Prado which is also the Toyota Land Cruiser in USA. That’s why the Land Cruiser and Gx550 look similar. The current Lexus LX is based on the full size Land Cruiser 300. Know your products before reviewing them. The
Technically you are correct but in reality, the Gx, 4runner and LC Prado are all essentially the same truck beneath the skin. They are all built in the same factory and on the same assembly line.
So what's a good alternative? You mentioned genesis, but that seems considerably smaller, and not sure of the rep it has for reliability. I was seriously thinking about the luxury + or the overland +... Overland + has a smoother ride, but you miss out on a third row and some bells and whistles. I'd love to hear about some good luxury suv alternatives in the same or cheaper price point. thanks for the great video!
Consumer reports are pretty poor on all of the big SUV's with most of them ranking 50-60/100. We have a 2007 GMC Yukon XL and it's in perfect shape with no issues but reviews on all of these large SUV's won't have us buying a new one for $100K with such poor reviews. So we are looking at the Lexus.
What so funny is the reviews is very critical of this Lexus , but you goes to dealer they don’t even have one on the lot they all pre sold , the dealer told me if I want one I have to wait at least 6 month
Why should a car that's a third of the price of. G Wagon be compared in terms of in or off road performance? Do you always try to compare apples with oranges for all brands ? And have you proven it's not capable off road ?
The Japanese LEXUS Brands should have work a lot on the “Torques” or “Powers Engine” and upgraded the ENGINE with different versions for such a HUGE and IMPRESSIVE SUV GX550 ( 5.0 Litres V8 or V12} in order to stand upright THE G-CLASS WAGEN ❤.
The GX is a parallel model to the Land Cruiser Prado. 460 to the Prado J150 and the 550 to the Prado J250. And yes the 4Runner is the NA cousin of the Prado. Agree with your review : interior doesn't befit the Lexus badge. Sadly the V35A engine isn't good.
Only listened to the first 5 minutes as nothing that could have been said in the last 15 could possibly overcome the fine points you made in the beggining!
Recommend you edit out that comment about the previous GX being a 4Runner. Hits your credibility hard and you did it in the first few seconds of the video.
Sorry for the confusion there. Our intention is to mention the 4 Runner as a reference to placement in the lineup of SUVs, we realize it sounds like we mean it was on the 4Runner chassis, which it hasn't been. Thanks for the mention!
Guys please don’t worry about Toyota. So many well educated PhD smart people working for them. It must be a business smart move strategy. They changed target customers which is not us. They want top dog rich customers. Did you know that this type of people buy 3 Land rovers? One is alway at the repair shop, second one you need to drive home, third one is for spare parts.
Why have a luxury version of a luxury vehicle? What should be offered: GX550 GX550 Over trail (Comes without the front spoiler, gets 16" wheels with 33" KO2's, roof rack, rock rails and mud flaps).
*We bought a GX460 brand new and offroaded it since day one... this "second owner" nonsense is just what the Poors say... GX460s are ubiquitous offroad.. first owners... brand new... GX460 cost the same new as most Jeeps and Ford trucks that go straight offroad. GX is not a Rolls-Royce😅... These trims are all botched. No E-KDSS, no 3rd row, now front locker, no wood wheel, downgraded interior. All Lexus had to do was carry over all the LC300 GRS features to the GX550 or LX600 and add the lux... but they botched it here hairsplitting the trims into losing their untility. Lexus buyers don't need a "value package"... we want it all*
The second owner nonsense you speak of… I am a “second owner” of a GX 460. In 2019 I bought a 2012 GX with 105k miles on it for only $18k. That was a lot less than a same year and mileage 4runner. I bought used intended to build it, as other people that have bought them used (cheep) have intended to do. I have since spent over $50k on it to turn it into a vehicle that is much better than yours in every way. If I had bought one new, then spent $50k on it, with over over $100k invested into it, I would probably be too hesitant to off road it. People have been buying them used because they are built to go hundreds of thousands of miles, perhaps more miles than an owner might put on it in their lifetime, and they are cheeper and better than a 4runner used. It was the smarter choice. A lot of these “poors” aren’t poor, just smarter with their money than you are.
Will getting a Luxury plus for the cabin and simply replacing the wheels/tires with Overtrail ones solve the ride quality issues with this? Can that be done?
Is this for real.... is anyone not seeing how all these V6 Turbos, including the one the in the new GX550 is being recalled. My local dealer and most, dont have any inventory, because they dont want to sell trucks they dont know how to fix! My dealer had all their GX 550 stuck at port, waiting for Toyota decide what to with them.... dont buy it.. the engines are self grenading, some as soon as 500 miles
You disagreed with us here and on the IS500 (which we’ve recommended on our podcast) This makes us wonder if you only watch Lexus videos? And is disagreeing about one brand somehow equate to every brand? Sorry to lose you.
The ride, the price, none of that stuff matters. What matters is LOOK at that thing. It looks bad ass. I cannot wait for this to start hitting dealerships.
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The LX is indeed the Landcruiser, but the GX is not a 4Runner; it’s very well known internationally as the Landcruiser Prado.
Take the body off a GX460 and it's a 4Runner with a 4.6L v8. Only the sheet metal changes.
@@timalan7406 There are similarities, but, no it isn't. That's like saying the new land cruiser is a Tundra because they both share the same frame. The transmission is different, all three differentials are different, the shocks and springs are different, drive shafts are different, there are way too many different parts. Some of the body, the trans and engine is different than a Prado. Most of the GX has been different than the 4runner.
Exactly it’s the Prado. When I was overseas it was the prado.
@@brianphillips8228 no
Yes this is Lexus's Range Rover competitor. I'll tell you why this vehicle exists. My wife wants a Range Rover to drive to work and take our son to school. I want a car I can tow a boat or trailer with. We could afford a Range Rover but I don't want the hassle of dealing with the reliability problems.
Exactly!
I’ve got an 2022 RX, for some reason I don’t think I’d be as critical of this new GX as these two gentlemen. Good day
My wife has the 2020 rx 350, I took my wife to test drive the new generation rx, she is like, “what is this all plastic thing? No wood, no leather dash, and the smoothness is also gone.” We kept the last gen RX instead traded in for a new one. Lexus has changed so much this generation, you will probably agree more to these two gentlemen more when you test drive the newer Lexus when it is time. I kid you not, Mazda and Hyundai feel more luxury than Lexus now days
I agree on the price. At 85K you start to look at the GLS/X7. Yes they’re targeting the off-road community, but again why have a Luxury trim with all these extra bits.
It’s still a beautiful vehicle. People will buy this. This thing will be seen in suburbs for the next 25+ years.
This is giving my dad has a good job vibes.
This might be the daily/track car tow rig ive been waiting for
Loving my Luxury. Never plan to offroad much and I enjoy the slightly rougher ride and body roll. It's a fun car. The truck feel is spot on, I wanted that in a car that could tow and also have room for a family of five. It's a good fit.
The Overtrail (NOT +) at ~$73k is the sweet spot in the lineup. Here in Southern California dealers are either marking up $10-13k or installing useless options that can’t be removed that add up to the same amount of mark up.
Need to wait a year or two for the market to cool down and the markups
go away.
The Overtrail is better than the new LC 250 because the cargo area is larger since there’s no hybrid battery
This is 100% correct. The Overtrail gets the e-KDSS, which is an excellent system that tames the bodyroll they were complaining about (they discuss this at about 5:30 in the video). It also leans into the off-road direction where the body-on-frame and solid-axle actually help. The Luxury trim is fighting the architecture. Getting the new GX in anything but the Overtrail trim is a wild decision.
Excellent review as usual. I think some of the trim choices on vehicles comes down to catering to people's impressions. Lets face it, a lot of folks buy cars just for their looks. Heck, I know of people who bought vehicles because they liked the color! One so-called "reviewer" referred to the smaller wheels on a vehicle as "being dorky", regardless of the fact that those wheels brought better fuel economy and a better ride, he would choose the bigger wheels just because they looked good. Some people are just gonna go for those big wheels regardless.
excellent review ha! the guy is holding on to the grab handles. I haven't driven the car yet but the body roll can never be that bad. Plus if it's rolling he doesn't need to hold the grab handles as you will literally see it rolling. I'm off to watch a less sensational review rather than this couple arguing
@@agharuokansirim4935 You're here commenting because a person's use of a grab handle is not to your liking?? "Ha!", what a waste of a brain.. Goodbye.
Picked up a CPO LX 570 after test driving the GX 550. We love the LX.
How many miles and what model year did you get? Comparable price to a new GX??
@@CJ-rk5eg Yeah, $70k for a '20 with 20k miles. It now has the Lexus extended warranty for another 7 years lol.
An excellent decision; the V8s will always be desirable.
I love it looking forward for my next vehicle early next year. Yes a Lexus G Wagon
Absolutely love my luxury plus GX 550! Really hate the small gas tank, but no regrets.
What’s the size?
21 Gallons
@@acousticriff7579 wonder if a GX460s fuel tank would fit, but would it be worth upgrading for just 2 extra gallons
I will wait for GX 550 Hybrid options
Lexus has a lot of GX lovers in their home market, mostly in urban environments. Upon seeing the Overtrail marketing, Japanese auto journalists voiced their concerns over lost civility at the launch event. Lexus created the luxury trims with these customers in mind.
@@Dillingham- “Civility “ is a very funny criticism. I know nothing about Japanese outdoor culture, or even if it exists. But apparently it must not be a very common thing to off road your vehicle in Japan if the auto press is concerned about “civility” which is a high brow type of comment from the ivory tower.
Hi, from Japan!! I have thought you might have been recording a new long trip video because it took a little bit of time for updating this newest video since the last one. I’m looking forward to seeing trip videos coming someday. By the way, I think this GX550 is a good car but the wheels are too huge. Car wheels of Toyota and Lexus have been going too huge and huge nowadays!!
It’s really a cool looking truck, but I simply do not have a use case for it and think our 22 MDX is tough to beat. About to turn 30k miles and really happy with it.
I love the GX550 because the boxy design gives great outward visibility and interior space. Also, the truck-like driving personality provides the GX550 with a real personality.
I’m a dad of 4 kids and severely limited on 6 seaters. I won’t drive a TX. It sounds like you don’t like this car as a 7 or 6 seater. What do you think are my options?
Will getting a Luxury plus for the cabin and simply replacing the wheels/tires with Overtrail ones solve the issues with this? Can that be done?
You guy's are the best!
Yes, but will the engine hold up in this? Pretty clear by now the ‘leftover machining debris’ isn’t the only problem with this twin turbo engine.
As a GX550 owner i disagree this boxy beast can turn on a dime and its fast. It drives like a sedan for its size category. Yes there is body roll but that is what gives it the truck feel. Never had i felt the sensation of rolling over. The suspension even on the premium trim is really nice. It might not have all the bells and whistles as the OT trim but it can do some serious off road things.
Agree that the Overtrail is the trim that matters. However, the overtrail doesn't have the 3rd row (for emergencies).
Thank you for saying the GX existence doesn't make sense. The G-wagon theory is really interesting, that makes so much sense. All of the influencers want g-wagons and Lexus wanted some of that market. When you see the 4runner, land cruiser, and GX, you would think the GX would be really luxurious and nice riding. But no it's not. And then they made a land cruiser off road trim too, which makes no sense. I'm on board with it now being called the Lexus G-wagon.
yes the trims are all botched as Toyota is cramming evey single truck and suv one one saturated TNGAF platform...
The Lexus G Wagon is the LX.
The previous generation GX460 was based on the Land Cruiser Prado not the 4Runner. The current GX550 is based on the Land Cruiser Prado which is also the Toyota Land Cruiser in USA. That’s why the Land Cruiser and Gx550 look similar. The current Lexus LX is based on the full size Land Cruiser 300. Know your products before reviewing them.
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They are just one among the paid reviewers. Oh, I would say this is not a review but an advertisement.
Technically you are correct but in reality, the Gx, 4runner and LC Prado are all essentially the same truck beneath the skin. They are all built in the same factory and on the same assembly line.
They can change the rims and tires what’s is the issue?
if the body roll in the GX is that, then how bad is it in the Land Cruiser ?
So what's a good alternative? You mentioned genesis, but that seems considerably smaller, and not sure of the rep it has for reliability. I was seriously thinking about the luxury + or the overland +... Overland + has a smoother ride, but you miss out on a third row and some bells and whistles. I'd love to hear about some good luxury suv alternatives in the same or cheaper price point. thanks for the great video!
Consumer reports are pretty poor on all of the big SUV's with most of them ranking 50-60/100. We have a 2007 GMC Yukon XL and it's in perfect shape with no issues but reviews on all of these large SUV's won't have us buying a new one for $100K with such poor reviews. So we are looking at the Lexus.
What so funny is the reviews is very critical of this Lexus , but you goes to dealer they don’t even have one on the lot they all pre sold , the dealer told me if I want one I have to wait at least 6 month
Love a car review video where two people talk over each other other the whole time. Said nobody. Thought I was somehow listening to 2 videos at once.
Why should a car that's a third of the price of. G Wagon be compared in terms of in or off road performance? Do you always try to compare apples with oranges for all brands ? And have you proven it's not capable off road ?
The Japanese LEXUS Brands should have work a lot on the “Torques” or “Powers Engine” and upgraded the ENGINE with different versions for such a HUGE and IMPRESSIVE SUV GX550 ( 5.0 Litres V8 or V12} in order to stand upright THE G-CLASS WAGEN ❤.
Where the heck is the Ridgeline review you guys were talking about on the podcast a few weeks ago? Haven't seen it posted on either channel?
The G wagon and AMG form is even a good off roader with its street tires.
A luxury trim with more wood and option for smaller wheels solves the issue.
V6 Turbos are recalled for blowing up?
I'd love to see a GX550 Overland VS INEOS Grenadier comparison. pricing is so close.....
Great review, Guys! I'm looking at the Overland for purchase. I'm interested to hear whether you like the base or the plus Overland model.
Base only. Plus version has luxury options that add $10k or more
I am amazed GM does not make a body on frame mid size SUV to compete with this and equivalent 4-Runners.
The GX is a parallel model to the Land Cruiser Prado. 460 to the Prado J150 and the 550 to the Prado J250. And yes the 4Runner is the NA cousin of the Prado. Agree with your review : interior doesn't befit the Lexus badge. Sadly the V35A engine isn't good.
The majority of owner who owned SUV not for off road but daily driver. Off road feature is the least important feature to consider.
This is the old land cruiser replacement. Luxurious, offroad capable, reliable, and all for about $100,000 after options.
Only listened to the first 5 minutes as nothing that could have been said in the last 15 could possibly overcome the fine points you made in the beggining!
Recommend you edit out that comment about the previous GX being a 4Runner. Hits your credibility hard and you did it in the first few seconds of the video.
Sorry for the confusion there. Our intention is to mention the 4 Runner as a reference to placement in the lineup of SUVs, we realize it sounds like we mean it was on the 4Runner chassis, which it hasn't been. Thanks for the mention!
You say this trim doesn't need to exist. But offering the option is just better. That doesn't take away from the Overtrail trim.
Guys please don’t worry about Toyota. So many well educated PhD smart people working for them. It must be a business smart move strategy. They changed target customers which is not us. They want top dog rich customers. Did you know that this type of people buy 3 Land rovers? One is alway at the repair shop, second one you need to drive home, third one is for spare parts.
Problem with the price is people are viewing it through pre pandemic eyes. 100k is the new 70k sadly.
Why have a luxury version of a luxury vehicle?
What should be offered:
GX550
GX550 Over trail (Comes without the front spoiler, gets 16" wheels with 33" KO2's, roof rack, rock rails and mud flaps).
Luxury doesn't the rear locker. Only center differential
Is that the same engine that is recalled for Tundra?
yes
no, different tuning. assembled at Tahara plant
This on portal axles would be my ideal overlanding vehicle tbh
these prices lol, unproven platform will have buyers cross shop
After dealer markup they’re all $100k + around here. No thanks for something with an unreliable turbo 6 that looks like a base model KIA.
No worries Toyota target customer is not you. But someone less intelligent and take my money people. Sadly there are so many of them in the world.
Range Rover has massive reliability issues. My money and time will not be spent in an auto shop.
enjoyed watching you guys crap all over the ride in this thing. They just need to make a boxy TX
*We bought a GX460 brand new and offroaded it since day one... this "second owner" nonsense is just what the Poors say... GX460s are ubiquitous offroad.. first owners... brand new... GX460 cost the same new as most Jeeps and Ford trucks that go straight offroad. GX is not a Rolls-Royce😅... These trims are all botched. No E-KDSS, no 3rd row, now front locker, no wood wheel, downgraded interior. All Lexus had to do was carry over all the LC300 GRS features to the GX550 or LX600 and add the lux... but they botched it here hairsplitting the trims into losing their untility. Lexus buyers don't need a "value package"... we want it all*
wow.. just wow..
The second owner nonsense you speak of… I am a “second owner” of a GX 460. In 2019 I bought a 2012 GX with 105k miles on it for only $18k. That was a lot less than a same year and mileage 4runner. I bought used intended to build it, as other people that have bought them used (cheep) have intended to do. I have since spent over $50k on it to turn it into a vehicle that is much better than yours in every way. If I had bought one new, then spent $50k on it, with over over $100k invested into it, I would probably be too hesitant to off road it.
People have been buying them used because they are built to go hundreds of thousands of miles, perhaps more miles than an owner might put on it in their lifetime, and they are cheeper and better than a 4runner used. It was the smarter choice. A lot of these “poors” aren’t poor, just smarter with their money than you are.
Other than TH-cam creator. What do you do for a living?
Will getting a Luxury plus for the cabin and simply replacing the wheels/tires with Overtrail ones solve the ride quality issues with this? Can that be done?
Dealers can’t sell due to engine failures
they will sell all the inventory they get in-just watch
It's over a year of my salary before tax. I can't afford one unless I win the lotto.
Fine
Third row in these are irrelevant 🤷♂️
Lexus should stick to making cars and let Toyota do the SUV truck thing.
For that much money I get a Yukon Denali with 6.2 liter engine.
you couldn't afford either
Luckily for Lexus the Genesis G80 is Yuk old man's car...
Get the GX luxury trim and put smaller wheels on it 😂
I owned a 2007 GX470. This new version is hideous, both inside and especially outside.
Adios.
These guys sound like Haters...
Is this for real.... is anyone not seeing how all these V6 Turbos, including the one the in the new GX550 is being recalled. My local dealer and most, dont have any inventory, because they dont want to sell trucks they dont know how to fix! My dealer had all their GX 550 stuck at port, waiting for Toyota decide what to with them.... dont buy it.. the engines are self grenading, some as soon as 500 miles
The bald headed guy s a little too sarcastic 🤦♂️
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Lexus and toyota cars are getting recall! Im so glad the Supra was made by BMW, now I know it will last longer than all the new Toyota
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Isn’t the GX based on the Sequoia ???
@dmanatan the LX is the one based on the Sequoia
Not gunna lie. The bald guys opinion is so bad idk why anyone would watch other videos. He’s reaching so hard
wow I keep on disagreeing with your opinions... after the is500 review... we just don't see the same. Time to unsubscribe
You disagreed with us here and on the IS500 (which we’ve recommended on our podcast) This makes us wonder if you only watch Lexus videos? And is disagreeing about one brand somehow equate to every brand? Sorry to lose you.