I think the GX Overtrail is a no-brainer. For $70k you can get the Overtrail with almost all of the offroad goodies for $10k less than the Ineos or $20k less than a smiliarly equipped Defender 110. For a luxury vehicle, its really a great value proposition.
yes one can delete the moon roof in GX 550 overtrail price is $68150 if one can buy it for that price lot better buy than the 3 row luxury Family School bus over priced sequoia trd pro
The Ineos Grenadier has loads of character but I can’t get over the poor slow steering and vehicle drift - especially if used as a daily driver. I wanted to like the Grenadier but this new GX ticks the boxes for the casual off-roader while including many luxury comforts most expect these days - for the same or less money than the Grenadier. I’m going to be one of those in line for this new GX.
@@youtubecarspottersguide1 Lexus isn't building any GX550s with the sunroof delete option and all of their builds for this year are loaded with options, so it won't be possible to find an Overtrail below $70k. Even the base Premium is being optioned up to $67k.
Always love that Roman is frustrated by everything no matter what! He gets frustrated that the Overtrail model doesn't have a 3rd row, but he's also frustrated at the amount of cargo space the 3rd row takes away...the only time I ever see Roman NOT frustrated is when he's wearing his rose colored glasses talking about how amazing Land Rover and Jaguar are. Edit to add: This post was not intended to attack or demean Roman (some of the replies are disappointing). The guy is an absolute entrepreneur and he took something he loves (cars) and built a huge thing out of it (far more than most of us have ever or will ever do). Yeah, he definitely loves weird cars, but that's ok. It's great that he has the right people around him who are experts, and, as @nkoeppen and @americandude3825 point out, he makes for a great "everyman" and "antagonist".
I love how Roman frustrated Tommy all through this video. Roman - you are a Fun Dad!!! Good memories for Tommy later in life even though he hates it now!
I wish that I could work with my father like these two. My father would hobble around the outside of the vehicle, point to something he knows I like and say stuff like "who is the idiot that thought this was a good idea?"
I lost my father back in 2014. Roman and Tommy's relationship reminds me so much of the one I had with ny dad...bickering, playfulness, fun, disagreements, etc. I love the dynamic. Keep it up and always love eachother.
I always criticized Tommy a lot about how he treats his father. Said that this time Roman you drove Tommy and us crazy but he handled you with grace, and kindness :). Love you guys, great show as always, huge fan. You are helping people like me, educate and inform me how to make good decisions getting my next vehicle.
With the new gx, tx, Land Cruiser, Tacoma, Camry, and upcoming 4runner, Toyota/lexus will be having record years at least for the next few years. No other brand even comes close right now
Don't think so. All are more expensive than the market can bear. The base taco, the base Highlander, the base Prius and the base ice RX4 are what's going to sell well. The automotive marketing world has blinders on. Ordinary US folks won't make $1000 per mo. car payments when lesser $500 alternatives are available.
You guys need to do a Moab face off with the GX550 Overtrail, Grenadier, classic Defender, 80 series, and a modern Defender. Maybe toss in the new LC250 for extra fun.
My two cents, every time Roman says this car is just two expensive he is identifying that it exceeds his budget to purchase (me too!). As a mid 50’s guy that would consider the purchase of the 60-70k version of this, I have zero interest in a third row seat. I don’t need a team bus. I want a capable vehicle that can tow from time to time, go off-road at a minimum of Subaru capabilities (ironic that 85% of the off road vehicles today don’t match it for ground clearance) and offer comfort in my daily commute. Advanced cruise control, power to drive mountain passes without wringing its neck, and stylish looks. At an appropriate trim level this checks those boxes for me.
I'm really looking forward to the massaging seats as I plan to buy this vehicle for my long trips around the country. Can you tell me why you dislike the massaging seats in this GX Tommy?
The restraint Tommy was showing when Roman was referring to the back massager as a "centipede" was hilarious 😂 It's OK Tommy. Sometimes you just gotta pick your battles 😂 even when Dad isn't right, it's OK. This literally would've been my dream job. Reviewing cars and trucks with my Dad. We were always going through dealer lots to see the newest model that just came out. But when I was growing up, who would've thought making a living on TH-cam would be a thing. Not to mention my Dad was hopelessly lost when it came to technology. He had a smart phone for about a week and then went back to a flipper if that says anything 😂 Great job guys, keep it up.
I understand Roman's comment about "too well made that its boring". I have a 08 FJ Cruiser and an 03 Hummer H1. Both are special vehicles. Only one has a real emotional connection and its by far the one that takes of all of my time working on. While the Hummer's name is "Clifford" the FJ's name is "Boring Bob".
I find repairs to be much more expensive and time consuming than I like. So I'll take reliable any day of the week. And after breaking down once in the dead middle of winter, I find reliability doubly important in the Winter. And a Kentucky winter ain't really that bad comparatively speaking. But still it was a cold day.
The Defender 110 can be obtained with three rows. Regarding competitors the majority of Lexus GX buyers are not cross shopping the GX with every three row SUV in the same price range so just listing all of those misses the mark. The majority of Lexus buyers are conservative when it comes to vehicles. They want luxury but they value reliability, and also cost of ownership when it comes to maintenance. The majority are not cross shopping the GX with Rivian, Ineos, Wagoneer, etc.
I've always been aware of the GX, and I've heard people talk about how good the previous gens are, but I've never even considered buying one because of the goofy front end. This new one has to be one of the most unexpected (in a good way) updates to any vehicle I've seen in a long time. It's a massive improvement over the previous generation on looks alone.
Does anyone else listen to these podcasts / videos as a drinking game? Take a drink after each time Tommy says “Dad”. A great time is had by all! Keep up the great work!
All of the people whining about lack of 3rd row on Overtrail (including Roman) are just reviewers or people who don't use them as intended. Going offroading on camera for YT vs going camping for at least a couple of days with family/friends and needing to be self-sufficient are very different, and the latter is way more common and what paying customers actually need. Almost everyone who offroads the GX regularly removes the 3rd row or keeps them folded down 100% of the time. You need that space for recovery gear, camping gear, food, etc. 9000 lbs of towing is good for a "midsize".
This was a fantastic show. Probably one of the top ones you guys have put together. Really enjoyed the other segment with the team from Hot pursuit Roman you knocked it out of the park. Hopefully we'll see more. Collabs with that team. They were fantastic. As usual, look forward to these talk sessions.
Does hood shakes when driving fast or during high wind , like my 2014 does , I also wonder if you get stuck in snow or mud or somewhere else, and try to open door , do steps recline than too ? Easy to brake them
You scoff at how expensive it is. But compared to what??? A loaded Tahoe is 80k+ and is a piece of crap I wouldn’t want to own after it’s 10 years old. This Lexus/Toyota will keep working for 20+ years. You can give this to your kids. C’mon man. In 2024 it’s not expensive. It’s actually a deal.
Nice looking GX. Although capable of off-road, I think this Luxury trim is 99.99% of the time will be in the city/on-road. I love the look of those machined face wheels.
I don’t like that you can’t get the digital rearview mirror in the over trial. Seems like a stupid mistake to keep it out of critical trims instead of making it an option for all the trims .
@@jimjones-pz1tt yeah but sometimes can work something out- someone buying a “base”/premium model may want the premium+ wheels on there’s who knows most cars I’d go aftermarket but this thing is too new & I don’t think it’d look right
@53:00 Say it out loud....battery tech sucks, and Toyota was always right about hybrids being the better approach if you really really really want economy that is PRACTICAL. EDIT.....@57:00 BOOM
I’m a hot rod guy. I have a 69 Mach 1 and a blown 55 Chevy. I’ve owned 2 Lexus’s as daily drivers and I loved them above all other daily drivers because of how quiet they are. The exhaust to the road noise and ride comfort are the reasons I rank them above any other luxury daily drivers I’ve owned. I have regretted all other purchases for a daily drivers since my first sc400 back in the mid 90s. My LS460L was awesome and I put 120k miles on it with only oil changes and tire change maintenance. I don’t know why I have only owned 2 Lexus’s when I know no matter how hard I try to find a car that competes in a similar price range I am never satisfied. You will never regret owning a Lexus. Low maintenance and perfect ride quality
14:50 That's just a dumb way to measure leg room in the second row. Maybe you should sit in the first row first and get a feel how much you can pull the seat forward? Off course you get poor leg room if the front seat is ALL THE WAY BACK.
24:02 If that's the only function of the button, isn't it a little redundant? Can you not start in 2nd using manual mode? I think Toyota is botching this somewhat by bumping the LC price higher than they said they would. Some LC configurations basically overlap with this vehicle now..
no it's not redundant, it deletes 1st gear entirely in drive until you turn it off. As Tommy stated it's for snow on and off road and even sand mud off road... it will constantly put you in 2nd from a dead stop so you don't slip in the snow taking off from a light etc...
Really wonder how old Tommy is. Feel like now he looks different from he was in the video for the 1st time which was years ago. Did he join the team when he was an teenager?
$80k? Good luck. Dealers are getting greedy again. I spoke with my local NorCal Lexus dealer and they have 2 GX550s coming next month, with a market adjustment (price hike)of $20k !
Relax you California Communist. Dealers can only get what someone is willing to pay. YOU WOULD DO THE SAME. If two buyers walk into your dealership and one offers MSRP and the other +$20K, don't try to make me believe you'd walk away from twenty grand. Don't be a limp-wristed liberal. Shop around and NEGOTIATE. (You're probably too scared to negotiate with evil car salesmen.)
Sure Tahoe, Suburban, Ford Expedition, are bigger and priced comparable but how’s their reliability? I mean I would give up a little space for reliability. Also the Palisade and Telluride would compare to this in size anyway, but does not offer much for off-road capabilities. And I love the body on frame system.
def the hottest the new suv and its a real truck frame. the new explorer should do well w the 3.0 turbo so hoping to see you guys review it soon. but if i had 80k i would want this gx more so than the ineos g.
I own a 2022 GX and I can honestly say that I don't care about exhaust note. I don't care about 3rd row seating either. I have a dog and go off-roading in the desert camping and overlanding so loading it up with gear is more important than passenger hauling capability. I would order it without the third row if I could.
Romans cheeky attitude is getting old. Complains that the overtrail doesn’t have a third row. Then complains about the size of the third row. Compares the GX to a suburban when they’re different categories (would be different if he referenced the TX for family hauler as a proper comparison to a suburban).
WE as consumers don't really care about being environmentally friendly. All vehicles affect the environment negatively. We want cars that are affordable, fuel efficient, reliable and convenient to use.
Plenty of consumers do though. Adding the we to pretend like you are speaking on behalf of all consumers is pretty silly and laughable. Not everyone wants exactly what you want.
@@theseb1979the most environmentally friendly vehicle is going to be the one that requires the fewest replacement parts, last a long time, and is fuel efficient for it’s purpose.
Turbo engines wear out faster. It’s just physics. More technology in an engine is great for short term…not so great for long term. We will have to withhold judgement until these new Toyotas have hundreds of thousands of miles on them to see how they stack up. But if I had to bet, my money is on the older generation
GX550 looks great in black/white. Much improved grill for a Lexus, too. I just preferred the overall size of the prior model a bit more. Or I'd take a new FJ Cruiser. Honestly what I want most is a Lexus version of a Bronco Sport.
Lexus got it right with the exterior styling. Looks purposeful and luxurious at the same time. Like Roman and Tommy said the interior could do with a "splash of color" along the dash etc. to make it more visually appealing, give it some contrast and brighten it up a bit. I know it's an off-road focused vehicle and the interior is supposed to be durable and easy to clean but it is very monochrome. The reality judging by some of the on-line forums is that many are on long waiting lists to purchase this as their luxury daily driver period. Looks like some are trying to convince themselves that this will work great as their next family hauler over their much bigger Tahoe's and Suburban's, Escalade's etc. because they are so excited about the exterior design and the perceived Lexus reliability. The reality is a vehicle like the TX makes much more sense for most families in this price bracket assuming you're not towing or doing serious off-roading. The TX has considerably more interior passenger room, cargo room, better on-road handling and fuel efficiency than the GX. The 550 is a looker for sure but it really is a mid-size SUV primarily designed for off-roading and towing with limited cargo space and it guzzles gas.
If you plan on keeping vehicles for a “long” time which many potential GX buyers will do (I’m talking 7-10 years) the body on frame more robustly built GX will probably fair better overall if you intend to throw a little of everything at it- DD duty, occasional tow/haul, little off-roading, + it’s nice to have a vehicle that’s more specifically purpose built that looks unique- the TX looks like everything else on the road….& I’m the exact customer that wants this- my wife & I wanna swap out her ‘19 MDX (2nd MDX for us) for a REAL SUV that feels more rugged & can tow our jet skis/utility trailer etc
@@MS-mr4zm I love the look of the new GX550 Overtrail and would like the extra towing and occasional off road and trail ability. I Had the '16 MDX and now the '19 Honda Passport and rented an X5 a couple of times on vacations. I'm ready to buy something new. What I can say about comparing the three I have the most experience with is that the MDX has the best city ride and great DD, good space, comfortable and tows my 21' boat and small utility trailer. The X5 best on the highway over 65 mph in Miami often 85 for long stretches, and not as good as the MDX in city driving but most comfortable with equal tow ability. My Passport, I wanted to try something different at the time, I don't need three rows. It has the most space, the ride is not as nice as the MDX in any type of driving, it tows as well, and it is a little better on a trail. I would say great all-around vehicle for about $15K less. I have been in the GX550 at the Chicago auto show and again I love the looks, but I wish it had more head and leg room mainly in the second row. I'm 6'4 and not comfortable back there at all. Also, a big negative is that the floor is not flat with the seats down like the others. And I know the ride will not be as good either, it will have body roll and be stiffer than the others. Before I order one, I'll have to drive it.
the "American's did the infotainment" thing has been public for almost 2 yrs. You didn't need a source for that. There's several articles that already exist telling us that.
The grenadier doesn't compete with anything. The grenadier is in a class of its own. The GX will outsell the LR by a huge margin and that's nothing new.
I’ll check that TFL page to shop for a car later, by the way Nathan, I’m looking for an 2015-2022 ford f150 single cab short bed, I hope your viewers willing to sell see and offer something like that
Obviously my 2003 6 cylinder Camry XLE isn’t off-road capable, but I do occasionally tow a 10’ x 5 1/2’ landscape trailer with high side rails. It has comfortable seating for 5, a large trunk, fold-down rear seats, and a smooth, quiet ride. So why exactly would I want a cramped 6 passenger vehicle with almost no trunk space and a semi-truck-like ride? Yeah, I know that it’s apples and oranges, but 80,000? I paid $29K (albeit 20 years ago), all-in, tax included. My “Android Auto” is an S7 phone with a bluetooth adapter in the 12vdc outlet, attached via a short USB cable (when charging) to the phone, which sits in a pivoting front vent holder.
I think the GX Overtrail is a no-brainer. For $70k you can get the Overtrail with almost all of the offroad goodies for $10k less than the Ineos or $20k less than a smiliarly equipped Defender 110. For a luxury vehicle, its really a great value proposition.
yes one can delete the moon roof in GX 550 overtrail price is $68150 if one can buy it for that price lot better buy than the 3 row luxury Family School bus over priced sequoia trd pro
The Ineos Grenadier has loads of character but I can’t get over the poor slow steering and vehicle drift - especially if used as a daily driver. I wanted to like the Grenadier but this new GX ticks the boxes for the casual off-roader while including many luxury comforts most expect these days - for the same or less money than the Grenadier. I’m going to be one of those in line for this new GX.
@@youtubecarspottersguide1
Lexus isn't building any GX550s with the sunroof delete option and all of their builds for this year are loaded with options, so it won't be possible to find an Overtrail below $70k. Even the base Premium is being optioned up to $67k.
My question is the Overtrail as quit as the other models?
I’ve yet to see Defender 110 or Grenadier on a trail in the wild…. Not one….so don’t worry about “off road goodies”
Always love that Roman is frustrated by everything no matter what! He gets frustrated that the Overtrail model doesn't have a 3rd row, but he's also frustrated at the amount of cargo space the 3rd row takes away...the only time I ever see Roman NOT frustrated is when he's wearing his rose colored glasses talking about how amazing Land Rover and Jaguar are.
Edit to add: This post was not intended to attack or demean Roman (some of the replies are disappointing). The guy is an absolute entrepreneur and he took something he loves (cars) and built a huge thing out of it (far more than most of us have ever or will ever do). Yeah, he definitely loves weird cars, but that's ok. It's great that he has the right people around him who are experts, and, as @nkoeppen and @americandude3825 point out, he makes for a great "everyman" and "antagonist".
And when he describes what a great deal the affordable G-Wagon is to consumers.
And his newly purchased defender knock off
You nailed it. I watch TFL for Andrey, Nathan, and Tommy. Roman just writes the checks and tags along.
@@shiftymcgee9359 what about kase and Alex you forget them they are family too
Roman does have access to lot of cars. However, he knows nothing about vehicles and says the dumbest things whenever he opens his mouth.
I love how Roman frustrated Tommy all through this video. Roman - you are a Fun Dad!!! Good memories for Tommy later in life even though he hates it now!
The play by play was hilarious.
I wish that I could work with my father like these two. My father would hobble around the outside of the vehicle, point to something he knows I like and say stuff like "who is the idiot that thought this was a good idea?"
You can tell that they are father and son, lots of bickering between these two. I could do without that, to be honest, but they can't help themselves
I lost my father back in 2014. Roman and Tommy's relationship reminds me so much of the one I had with ny dad...bickering, playfulness, fun, disagreements, etc. I love the dynamic. Keep it up and always love eachother.
I always criticized Tommy a lot about how he treats his father. Said that this time Roman you drove Tommy and us crazy but he handled you with grace, and kindness :). Love you guys, great show as always, huge fan. You are helping people like me, educate and inform me how to make good decisions getting my next vehicle.
Well said
@@TFLtalkHow about chicken 🐔? 😂😂😂
With the new gx, tx, Land Cruiser, Tacoma, Camry, and upcoming 4runner, Toyota/lexus will be having record years at least for the next few years. No other brand even comes close right now
Agreed
Don't think so. All are more expensive than the market can bear.
The base taco, the base Highlander, the base Prius and the base ice RX4 are what's going to sell well.
The automotive marketing world has blinders on.
Ordinary US folks won't make $1000 per mo. car payments when lesser $500 alternatives are available.
Love the Father Son dynamic here. Both opinions are valid and differ. Great video.
Thanks for watching!
You guys need to do a Moab face off with the GX550 Overtrail, Grenadier, classic Defender, 80 series, and a modern Defender. Maybe toss in the new LC250 for extra fun.
Doug de Muro has his classic Landrover right now for sale, on Cars & Bids. Would be perfect for this!!
My two cents, every time Roman says this car is just two expensive he is identifying that it exceeds his budget to purchase (me too!). As a mid 50’s guy that would consider the purchase of the 60-70k version of this, I have zero interest in a third row seat. I don’t need a team bus. I want a capable vehicle that can tow from time to time, go off-road at a minimum of Subaru capabilities (ironic that 85% of the off road vehicles today don’t match it for ground clearance) and offer comfort in my daily commute. Advanced cruise control, power to drive mountain passes without wringing its neck, and stylish looks. At an appropriate trim level this checks those boxes for me.
I'm really looking forward to the massaging seats as I plan to buy this vehicle for my long trips around the country. Can you tell me why you dislike the massaging seats in this GX Tommy?
The restraint Tommy was showing when Roman was referring to the back massager as a "centipede" was hilarious 😂
It's OK Tommy. Sometimes you just gotta pick your battles 😂 even when Dad isn't right, it's OK.
This literally would've been my dream job. Reviewing cars and trucks with my Dad. We were always going through dealer lots to see the newest model that just came out. But when I was growing up, who would've thought making a living on TH-cam would be a thing. Not to mention my Dad was hopelessly lost when it came to technology. He had a smart phone for about a week and then went back to a flipper if that says anything 😂
Great job guys, keep it up.
I love only 5% of the comment section is about the GX550, 95% is about topic of “father and son”😂
Roman doesn’t want to get into the 3rd row. But he’s going to get a $100,00 plus Porsche soon. Andre and Nathan will have to help pry Roman out.
I understand Roman's comment about "too well made that its boring". I have a 08 FJ Cruiser and an 03 Hummer H1. Both are special vehicles. Only one has a real emotional connection and its by far the one that takes of all of my time working on. While the Hummer's name is "Clifford" the FJ's name is "Boring Bob".
Maybe take boring bob in some hardcore trails where boring Bob will be Rowdy Robert.
All that means is that you are a masochist 😂
I’ll never understand that. The moment a vehicle fails to function properly, it’s dead to me.
I find repairs to be much more expensive and time consuming than I like. So I'll take reliable any day of the week. And after breaking down once in the dead middle of winter, I find reliability doubly important in the Winter. And a Kentucky winter ain't really that bad comparatively speaking. But still it was a cold day.
The Defender 110 can be obtained with three rows.
Regarding competitors the majority of Lexus GX buyers are not cross shopping the GX with every three row SUV in the same price range so just listing all of those misses the mark. The majority of Lexus buyers are conservative when it comes to vehicles. They want luxury but they value reliability, and also cost of ownership when it comes to maintenance. The majority are not cross shopping the GX with Rivian, Ineos, Wagoneer, etc.
Defender 110 the 3rd row has no leg room and no cargo space with the 3rd row in use
I've always been aware of the GX, and I've heard people talk about how good the previous gens are, but I've never even considered buying one because of the goofy front end. This new one has to be one of the most unexpected (in a good way) updates to any vehicle I've seen in a long time. It's a massive improvement over the previous generation on looks alone.
Does anyone else listen to these podcasts / videos as a drinking game? Take a drink after each time Tommy says “Dad”. A great time is had by all!
Keep up the great work!
Love it
That's almost as dangerous as every time Andre says Dude!
All of the people whining about lack of 3rd row on Overtrail (including Roman) are just reviewers or people who don't use them as intended. Going offroading on camera for YT vs going camping for at least a couple of days with family/friends and needing to be self-sufficient are very different, and the latter is way more common and what paying customers actually need.
Almost everyone who offroads the GX regularly removes the 3rd row or keeps them folded down 100% of the time. You need that space for recovery gear, camping gear, food, etc.
9000 lbs of towing is good for a "midsize".
NEW gx is a home run and excellent rival for the defender plus discover . Great job by lexus .❤.
yes still has a solid rear axel
It’s angelic white like Tommy’s angel wings love it Incredible podcast family togetherness
I keep forgetting this is a podcast until Roman starts announcing like a baseball radio host during a game.
This was a fantastic show. Probably one of the top ones you guys have put together. Really enjoyed the other segment with the team from Hot pursuit Roman you knocked it out of the park. Hopefully we'll see more. Collabs with that team. They were fantastic. As usual, look forward to these talk sessions.
front end 100% improvement over the GX 460
That thumbnail of Roman in a straight jacket is pure GOLD!!! 😂 nicely done !
He definitely belongs in straitjacket... He is not capable of critical thinking.
Hmmm Storm Trooper version. Nice. 😂❤
You don’t pick the car variant based on what wheels/tyres it has … that is the first thing to replace on any off-roader.
Does hood shakes when driving fast or during high wind , like my 2014 does , I also wonder if you get stuck in snow or mud or somewhere else, and try to open door , do steps recline than too ? Easy to brake them
You scoff at how expensive it is. But compared to what??? A loaded Tahoe is 80k+ and is a piece of crap I wouldn’t want to own after it’s 10 years old. This Lexus/Toyota will keep working for 20+ years. You can give this to your kids. C’mon man. In 2024 it’s not expensive. It’s actually a deal.
Exactly! The QX80 is $80k+, the Defender S 130 is $74k+, what are people comparing the price to?
Nice looking GX. Although capable of off-road, I think this Luxury trim is 99.99% of the time will be in the city/on-road. I love the look of those machined face wheels.
Does this new GX still have the “body on frame”? Or did they go unibody. Love this new GX! Miss the rear opening door. Don’t like the hatchback.🙄
Do the second row seats
slide forward or back?
If I ordered one I’d get the two row version
Roman being sassy the whole time cuz they didn’t get the Overtrail LOL
You guys should really do a side by side comparison with the made-in-Japan Armada.
Great content as always, kudos to Roman and Tommy...always great vids..thank you
Looking forward to seeing this off road and towing!
Lexus is going the right direction!!! Thank Mr Chief Engineer! Now smaller rims please!
Roman often makes comments that are questionable for someone self identifying as gear head…
I don’t like that you can’t get the digital rearview mirror in the over trial. Seems like a stupid mistake to keep it out of critical trims instead of making it an option for all the trims .
dunno if people would trust a digital mirror offroad when accurate perception is key
I feel like Roman was super argumentative in this video he literally disagreed with 99% of everything
Big Dad Energy . Reminds me to phone my old man later.
Please do a comparison head to head over trail vs R1S ❤
I think for wife & i wed like the overtrail when you can get 3rd row OR get the premium+ & get dealer to put overtrail wheels/tires on it
You'll have a heart attack when you find out how much Lexus charges for factory wheels from the parts department.
@@jimjones-pz1tt yeah but sometimes can work something out- someone buying a “base”/premium model may want the premium+ wheels on there’s who knows most cars I’d go aftermarket but this thing is too new & I don’t think it’d look right
@53:00 Say it out loud....battery tech sucks, and Toyota was always right about hybrids being the better approach if you really really really want economy that is PRACTICAL. EDIT.....@57:00 BOOM
I’m a hot rod guy. I have a 69 Mach 1 and a blown 55 Chevy. I’ve owned 2 Lexus’s as daily drivers and I loved them above all other daily drivers because of how quiet they are. The exhaust to the road noise and ride comfort are the reasons I rank them above any other luxury daily drivers I’ve owned. I have regretted all other purchases for a daily drivers since my first sc400 back in the mid 90s. My LS460L was awesome and I put 120k miles on it with only oil changes and tire change maintenance. I don’t know why I have only owned 2 Lexus’s when I know no matter how hard I try to find a car that competes in a similar price range I am never satisfied. You will never regret owning a Lexus. Low maintenance and perfect ride quality
Does it have a boost gauge?
The best SUV post Covid era
Thank you, Lexus, for the lack of gloss black plastic on the interior!
14:50
That's just a dumb way to measure leg room in the second row.
Maybe you should sit in the first row first and get a feel how much you can pull the seat forward?
Off course you get poor leg room if the front seat is ALL THE WAY BACK.
The business-like neutral colors look great to me - thanks Lexus! Let me know when the more energy efficient hybrid is available at this price range
I do not see much if any crossover between this vehicle and the Grenadier.
24:02 If that's the only function of the button, isn't it a little redundant? Can you not start in 2nd using manual mode? I think Toyota is botching this somewhat by bumping the LC price higher than they said they would. Some LC configurations basically overlap with this vehicle now..
no it's not redundant, it deletes 1st gear entirely in drive until you turn it off. As Tommy stated it's for snow on and off road and even sand mud off road... it will constantly put you in 2nd from a dead stop so you don't slip in the snow taking off from a light etc...
Great video guys...Overtrail for sure that's the one to get better price then a Defender! 👍
I would like to know would can afford these to take them off road
TH-camrs
@@CACressida yeah I guess you are right about that 😂
People like us
@@CACressidalolz 😆
The third owner
Really wonder how old Tommy is. Feel like now he looks different from he was in the video for the 1st time which was years ago. Did he join the team when he was an teenager?
mid-20's
Would really appreciate a second row comparison of the incoming vs the outgoing.
Do all of the models use premium fuel?
great review, as always amazing tag team.
Tommy: "We have an enthusiast channel." Dream on.
Can you do the stroller Test ? Pls !!!
This is my favorite SUV. I can't wait to watch this. I don't know how I missed this video. I've hit all the bells.
Roman's dementia has attained new depths. He wants the GX550 to have more room when Lexus already has two larger SUVs in its line up.
The guy is just not smart at all. I wish he stays behind the camera.
You guys are lame. Roman is a great guy, he’s as smart as a whip, and he’s the one that makes all this happen. Lighten up. For realz.
The Tx is a completely different vehicle and the lx is basically the same size.
@@QueensizemusicFor realz. Are you 13 years old?
@@rondejean7668 Of course the TX is different. That's the point.
4runner customers take notes here
28:42 How dare you not show the dog!?!
$80k? Good luck. Dealers are getting greedy again. I spoke with my local NorCal Lexus dealer and they have 2 GX550s coming next month, with a market adjustment (price hike)of $20k !
All dealers are not the same. My local Lexus dealer doesn’t do dealer markups
They wont get that markup sale. 20 grand for a mass produced and non special trim isn't that hot.
Relax you California Communist. Dealers can only get what someone is willing to pay. YOU WOULD DO THE SAME. If two buyers walk into your dealership and one offers MSRP and the other +$20K, don't try to make me believe you'd walk away from twenty grand. Don't be a limp-wristed liberal. Shop around and NEGOTIATE. (You're probably too scared to negotiate with evil car salesmen.)
Roman equates quality with boring. It's a Czech-commie thing: 1987 Skodas were not boring.
I can't wait for your overtrail version or premium plus review
Man I want the trim with smaller wheels.
I agree. Music culture has infiltrated the Lexus design studio. I'm not down with that yo.
Sure Tahoe, Suburban, Ford Expedition, are bigger and priced comparable but how’s their reliability? I mean I would give up a little space for reliability. Also the Palisade and Telluride would compare to this in size anyway, but does not offer much for off-road capabilities. And I love the body on frame system.
def the hottest the new suv and its a real truck frame. the new explorer should do well w the 3.0 turbo so hoping to see you guys review it soon. but if i had 80k i would want this gx more so than the ineos g.
Or, just buy a Toyota Land Cruiser 1958 Model with a locking center and rear differentials for $56,000.
all you need
@@youtubecarspottersguide1Let's off-road with dubs!
If you want bigger get the LX or TX.
Hmm, seems like olde Roman might need his Rx adjusted a tetch....
Can one get one of these without a 3rd row?
Yes
@@TFLtalk Which model?, Thank you by the way, love your videos and Channels.
only in the overtrail yes other models ? im so glad the 3rd row is gone
Get a roof rack and you get your storage back.
I own a 2022 GX and I can honestly say that I don't care about exhaust note. I don't care about 3rd row seating either. I have a dog and go off-roading in the desert camping and overlanding so loading it up with gear is more important than passenger hauling capability. I would order it without the third row if I could.
Romans cheeky attitude is getting old.
Complains that the overtrail doesn’t have a third row. Then complains about the size of the third row. Compares the GX to a suburban when they’re different categories (would be different if he referenced the TX for family hauler as a proper comparison to a suburban).
WE as consumers don't really care about being environmentally friendly. All vehicles affect the environment negatively. We want cars that are affordable, fuel efficient, reliable and convenient to use.
I like utilitarian , cargo space , payload ,towing and no 3rd row in a utility
Plenty of consumers do though. Adding the we to pretend like you are speaking on behalf of all consumers is pretty silly and laughable. Not everyone wants exactly what you want.
I’m sure they’re are millions of people going into dealerships asking how the vehicle effects their carbon footprint 😂😂😂
@@theseb1979the most environmentally friendly vehicle is going to be the one that requires the fewest replacement parts, last a long time, and is fuel efficient for it’s purpose.
Who's we? You don't speak for me.
Also, I like better mpgs because I like going to the pump less and paying less when I do.
Glad I'm not the only one who prefers manual folding seat. Way faster than electronic folding seats
Hybrids are the way to go, and PHEVs are awesome for many people. Hmmm also, don't rate hybrids on the experience from an AMG hybrid 😂🤣
Why doesn’t anyone mention the Samurai warrior armor that has informed the design language of these things for better part of a decade??????
The rake on that windshield will be a rock chip magnet
Love your reviews guys. great detail!
I'm happy you have taken my advice Tommy. Keep at it and maybe I'll resubscribe.
Will 35's fit on the GX 550 Overtrail, without rubbing or cutting needed??
Tension made the whole thing a little awkward to watch.
The fact you can’t get the luxury with a rear locker or the overtrail with a 3rd row is a real head scratcher
Yeah, Ford did that (turbos) 10 yrs ago and they’ve had many problems. So…you justified everyone’s concern🤦🏼♂️
Uhhhh no. Toyota doesn't nearly have the reputation of Ford when it comes to recalls.
@@Naginc pretty sure Toyota has recalled like 600k new Tundras/Tacomas, but ok.👍🏻
Turbo engines wear out faster. It’s just physics. More technology in an engine is great for short term…not so great for long term.
We will have to withhold judgement until these new Toyotas have hundreds of thousands of miles on them to see how they stack up. But if I had to bet, my money is on the older generation
GX550 looks great in black/white. Much improved grill for a Lexus, too. I just preferred the overall size of the prior model a bit more. Or I'd take a new FJ Cruiser. Honestly what I want most is a Lexus version of a Bronco Sport.
Lexus got it right with the exterior styling. Looks purposeful and luxurious at the same time. Like Roman and Tommy said the interior could do with a "splash of color" along the dash etc. to make it more visually appealing, give it some contrast and brighten it up a bit. I know it's an off-road focused vehicle and the interior is supposed to be durable and easy to clean but it is very monochrome.
The reality judging by some of the on-line forums is that many are on long waiting lists to purchase this as their luxury daily driver period. Looks like some are trying to convince themselves that this will work great as their next family hauler over their much bigger Tahoe's and Suburban's, Escalade's etc. because they are so excited about the exterior design and the perceived Lexus reliability.
The reality is a vehicle like the TX makes much more sense for most families in this price bracket assuming you're not towing or doing serious off-roading. The TX has considerably more interior passenger room, cargo room, better on-road handling and fuel efficiency than the GX. The 550 is a looker for sure but it really is a mid-size SUV primarily designed for off-roading and towing with limited cargo space and it guzzles gas.
If you plan on keeping vehicles for a “long” time which many potential GX buyers will do (I’m talking 7-10 years) the body on frame more robustly built GX will probably fair better overall if you intend to throw a little of everything at it- DD duty, occasional tow/haul, little off-roading, + it’s nice to have a vehicle that’s more specifically purpose built that looks unique- the TX looks like everything else on the road….& I’m the exact customer that wants this- my wife & I wanna swap out her ‘19 MDX (2nd MDX for us) for a REAL SUV that feels more rugged & can tow our jet skis/utility trailer etc
@MIZUNOMP60 Exactly. Well said.
@@MS-mr4zm I love the look of the new GX550 Overtrail and would like the extra towing and occasional off road and trail ability. I Had the '16 MDX and now the '19 Honda Passport and rented an X5 a couple of times on vacations. I'm ready to buy something new. What I can say about comparing the three I have the most experience with is that the MDX has the best city ride and great DD, good space, comfortable and tows my 21' boat and small utility trailer. The X5 best on the highway over 65 mph in Miami often 85 for long stretches, and not as good as the MDX in city driving but most comfortable with equal tow ability. My Passport, I wanted to try something different at the time, I don't need three rows. It has the most space, the ride is not as nice as the MDX in any type of driving, it tows as well, and it is a little better on a trail. I would say great all-around vehicle for about $15K less. I have been in the GX550 at the Chicago auto show and again I love the looks, but I wish it had more head and leg room mainly in the second row. I'm 6'4 and not comfortable back there at all. Also, a big negative is that the floor is not flat with the seats down like the others. And I know the ride will not be as good either, it will have body roll and be stiffer than the others. Before I order one, I'll have to drive it.
Please take off that damn tow hitch cover, so we can finally see what's actually under it.
the "American's did the infotainment" thing has been public for almost 2 yrs. You didn't need a source for that. There's several articles that already exist telling us that.
Awesome podcast boys
I see a winner 🏆 in there
This video is great for bed time puts me right to sleep :)
The grenadier doesn't compete with anything. The grenadier is in a class of its own. The GX will outsell the LR by a huge margin and that's nothing new.
Great review for 650 people who can really afford it, for rest of us (328,999,350) it's just a drooling pipe dream. Thanks 🤣👌🍻
Does 3rd have child seat latch?
I’ll check that TFL page to shop for a car later, by the way Nathan, I’m looking for an 2015-2022 ford f150 single cab short bed, I hope your viewers willing to sell see and offer something like that
Obviously my 2003 6 cylinder Camry XLE isn’t off-road capable, but I do occasionally tow a 10’ x 5 1/2’ landscape trailer with high side rails. It has comfortable seating for 5, a large trunk, fold-down rear seats, and a smooth, quiet ride.
So why exactly would I want a cramped 6 passenger vehicle with almost no trunk space and a semi-truck-like ride? Yeah, I know that it’s apples and oranges, but 80,000? I paid $29K (albeit 20 years ago), all-in, tax included.
My “Android Auto” is an S7 phone with a bluetooth adapter in the 12vdc outlet, attached via a short USB cable (when charging) to the phone, which sits in a pivoting front vent holder.
Wrong an beautiful exhaust note makes driving everyday a beautiful experience