@@ThatAnimatorGuy_I think the perfect middle ground would be to add redesigned quake1 monsters and weapons to this game. Singleplayer quake has been all about the stogg ever since quake 2, so merging quake 1 with doom would make more sense than it may sound. The main reason being that it perfectly fits aesthetically
@@krypton_57well, they already are connected. Sentinels use Slipgates, the Quad damage is there, the, um, Ancient Gods are there as well, the only thing we are currently lacking is like the most litetal direct up in our face appearance of Ranger or any other character from Quake
Things that you may find curious. That flying brain thing looks very similar to arachnorb. The monster with horns, shield and sword that you strike with the mace is most likely the agaddon hunter, the monster that doom hunter was made from by deag Ranak. The mech section supposedly takes place on mars because everything looks very red and sci-fi. Also, the shield you most likely can use with every weapon, because in the trailer we see it used with every one of them. One more thing. Please add this new stagger indicator to the marauder from ket, it looks way better.
They have released some interview footage with the Devs at Id that will answer a lot of questions you had about mechanics and what direction they are planning to go with Dark Ages (just in case you hadn't seen it since this video dropped). And congrats on beating Eternal in the last vid (forgot to comment there) had a lot of fun watching that series. Can't wait for the next!
Thanks DBT! I picked up some new things I didn't notice before. Also when you kept saying Vortigans or whatever you reminded me of the name of the bad guys in my original ID Software addiction Commander Keen. I can't remember all of the lore to it now, but I do recall the Vorticans with a "C" were the enemy in that game. Again well done video I think you covered it all pretty well!
I'm out of the loop with gaming news, so I only found out about this three days ago, when the trailer popped out in my recommendations. I was very happy while watching it, I even got tears in my eyes. But I'll wait until the finished product to have a strong opinion about it. I don't want to get over-hyped and then disappointed. Although I wasn't disappointed by 2016 and Eternal, so fingers crossed that this doesn't break the streak.
It can depend on lore like making cybernetic demons part of the UAC when they were hell native (plus the unique aesthetic both Hell and UAC used to have) it's part of why i think Doom works better as series where each game could have its own take on lore instead of trying to connect everything.
@@Sniff738 I just couldn't get into the modern Doom games. I know they are good games but they are not for me. I still replay the original Doom 1 and 2 often. They are the perfect shooter for me.
This game looks alot closer to classic doom slaughter map gameplay with a dash of Bioshock 2's Big Daddy suit. As for the darker art style. Eternal and 2016 did the same thing in their early builds before changing after launch. I still prefer the closed alpha of 2016 I played back in high school... I miss the multiplayer too oddly enough it's a shame it wasn't expanded since it was a great Halo game.
I was one of those people arguing with Quake fans in the comments and telling them the next game will probably be Doom and not Quake. It wouldn't make sense. Doom is the most popular around the world now after Eternal than it ever has been before. Why would they not follow up with one more Doom? Quake will probably come, but Doom is their priority right now. Maybe the next game will be Quake after Dark Ages. At least now Doom fans have a trilogy. It would have just felt wrong if they took a break from Doom after Eternal. I think they were always planning on making a trilogy.
I think theory that this was quake is valid, but honestly there is way to many things that indicates otherwise, especially if that leak about "year zero" where true, which this game strongly suggests it was. The year zero leak talks about a doom game that was planed even before Eternal came out.
@@Sniff738 Yeah, i also feel like Quake need to be way, WAY more well defined to actually get attention. Because as it is, it has personality/theme issues and a lot of overlap with Doom. being "dark and gritty" can only get it so far. Not to mention the difficult decisions about the gameplay "Innovation or nostalgia ? Single or multi player ?"
@@lachousalle31 Thats unless they do a really good work with the character, Doomguy wasn't the angry Doomslayer before 2016 presented him like that. its a difficult task to achieve, and i my opinion thats why people love 2016, not for the game in itself, but for what it achieved despite its development having some "problems"
The way you mention Classic Doom shotgunners as forcing you to hide ironically reminds me of the Marauder. In both instances, the flow of attack-attack-attack is broken. Yet I treat the former with respect and the latter with disdain. Like the former is fair and the latter is bullshit.
Doom eternal on its surface has nothing to do with the classic gameplay wise, but analysing things shows you the complete opposite. Baron of hell shows up in both games ? players back off to avoid his melee. Archvile ? prioritization Marauder/hitscanners ? avoid and wait their attacks so you can attack
@@dbthanatos jajaja ya me los pase todos, solo digo que no he escuchado noticias de kar en tuk nada más, en fin sino se va a terminar algo mejor ni empezarlo 🤌😂
Brown and grey hue mixed with Sci fi dark fantasy has me wishing for new quake
maybe they thought that the arena shooter was dead, meaning in bethesda's eyes a new quake game would flop, so they made it a DOOM game instead
@@ThatAnimatorGuy_I think the perfect middle ground would be to add redesigned quake1 monsters and weapons to this game. Singleplayer quake has been all about the stogg ever since quake 2, so merging quake 1 with doom would make more sense than it may sound. The main reason being that it perfectly fits aesthetically
@@krypton_57well, they already are connected. Sentinels use Slipgates, the Quad damage is there, the, um, Ancient Gods are there as well, the only thing we are currently lacking is like the most litetal direct up in our face appearance of Ranger or any other character from Quake
Things that you may find curious. That flying brain thing looks very similar to arachnorb. The monster with horns, shield and sword that you strike with the mace is most likely the agaddon hunter, the monster that doom hunter was made from by deag Ranak. The mech section supposedly takes place on mars because everything looks very red and sci-fi.
Also, the shield you most likely can use with every weapon, because in the trailer we see it used with every one of them.
One more thing. Please add this new stagger indicator to the marauder from ket, it looks way better.
Friendship with Matpat reactions ended, DBThanatos reactions is now my best friend.
They have released some interview footage with the Devs at Id that will answer a lot of questions you had about mechanics and what direction they are planning to go with Dark Ages (just in case you hadn't seen it since this video dropped). And congrats on beating Eternal in the last vid (forgot to comment there) had a lot of fun watching that series. Can't wait for the next!
Thanks DBT! I picked up some new things I didn't notice before. Also when you kept saying Vortigans or whatever you reminded me of the name of the bad guys in my original ID Software addiction Commander Keen. I can't remember all of the lore to it now, but I do recall the Vorticans with a "C" were the enemy in that game. Again well done video I think you covered it all pretty well!
22:35 Is that actually an Aggadon Hunter? The ones that then become Doom Hunters?
Yep
20:38 Its the parry indicator i think, maybe just some attacks you are able to parry or block and the green shows you.
Especially makes sense since the shield gets highlighted in green after the parry
I'm out of the loop with gaming news, so I only found out about this three days ago, when the trailer popped out in my recommendations.
I was very happy while watching it, I even got tears in my eyes.
But I'll wait until the finished product to have a strong opinion about it.
I don't want to get over-hyped and then disappointed.
Although I wasn't disappointed by 2016 and Eternal, so fingers crossed that this doesn't break the streak.
Well, its sure different, just like Hugo and id wanted to be, lets hope they do a good job.
We should definitely talk about how much damage that SSG does with one blast, it's insane 🤯
Time for "My Little Dark Age"!
I hope they getting closer to the original Doom 1 and 2 games for the aesthetics but maybe for the next Doom game after this one.
It can depend on lore like making cybernetic demons part of the UAC when they were hell native (plus the unique aesthetic both Hell and UAC used to have)
it's part of why i think Doom works better as series where each game could have its own take on lore instead of trying to connect everything.
@@Sniff738 I just couldn't get into the modern Doom games. I know they are good games but they are not for me. I still replay the original Doom 1 and 2 often. They are the perfect shooter for me.
This game looks alot closer to classic doom slaughter map gameplay with a dash of Bioshock 2's Big Daddy suit.
As for the darker art style. Eternal and 2016 did the same thing in their early builds before changing after launch.
I still prefer the closed alpha of 2016 I played back in high school... I miss the multiplayer too oddly enough it's a shame it wasn't expanded since it was a great Halo game.
I was one of those people arguing with Quake fans in the comments and telling them the next game will probably be Doom and not Quake. It wouldn't make sense. Doom is the most popular around the world now after Eternal than it ever has been before. Why would they not follow up with one more Doom? Quake will probably come, but Doom is their priority right now. Maybe the next game will be Quake after Dark Ages. At least now Doom fans have a trilogy. It would have just felt wrong if they took a break from Doom after Eternal. I think they were always planning on making a trilogy.
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I think theory that this was quake is valid, but honestly there is way to many things that indicates otherwise, especially if that leak about "year zero" where true, which this game strongly suggests it was.
The year zero leak talks about a doom game that was planed even before Eternal came out.
The Night Sentinels in general feel like they could've been at home in Quake but at this point, they're already part of Doom since 2016.
@@Sniff738 Yeah, i also feel like Quake need to be way, WAY more well defined to actually get attention. Because as it is, it has personality/theme issues and a lot of overlap with Doom. being "dark and gritty" can only get it so far. Not to mention the difficult decisions about the gameplay "Innovation or nostalgia ? Single or multi player ?"
Yep, they were very obviously always planning on making a trilogy after 2016.
@llamadelreyii3369 And also no one cares about QuakeGuy. A Quake style game with Doomguy would be better in my opinion.
@@lachousalle31 Thats unless they do a really good work with the character, Doomguy wasn't the angry Doomslayer before 2016 presented him like that.
its a difficult task to achieve, and i my opinion thats why people love 2016, not for the game in itself, but for what it achieved despite its development having some "problems"
hexen ages
kar en tuk mod?
Familiar, because new Doom looks like Quake 1, right?
shield bash goblin slayer style
The way you mention Classic Doom shotgunners as forcing you to hide ironically reminds me of the Marauder.
In both instances, the flow of attack-attack-attack is broken. Yet I treat the former with respect and the latter with disdain. Like the former is fair and the latter is bullshit.
Doom eternal on its surface has nothing to do with the classic gameplay wise, but analysing things shows you the complete opposite.
Baron of hell shows up in both games ? players back off to avoid his melee.
Archvile ? prioritization
Marauder/hitscanners ? avoid and wait their attacks so you can attack
Va a salir un nuevo doom y nada aun de kar en tuk 😢
Pues ponte a jugar los nuevos juegos en vez de estar esperando un mod 🤷♂️
@@dbthanatos jajaja ya me los pase todos, solo digo que no he escuchado noticias de kar en tuk nada más, en fin sino se va a terminar algo mejor ni empezarlo 🤌😂
Pues por eso es mejor dejar de esperarlo
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