Ups & Downs From Star Trek: Prodigy 1.11 - Asylum
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- Chakotay is back! Question is, where is he? Here's Sean with the Ups & Downs from Prodigy's return.
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The Janeway hug was the first time Dal felt real to me. That was very much the act of a stressed teenager who'd just been reassured that everything is going to work out fine.
Please keep doing the Up's & Down's for Prodigy. I always look forward to these after each Trek episode.
Yep! I do too!!
The writing for me is the best. I kept wanting them to up the maturity level a bit because each of these Prodigy episodes would make amazing Adult Trek.
The ship rising up, even has musical cues similar to the Enterprise rising out of the ocean in Into Darkness. I caught that in the moment and i was like hell yeah!
I'm glad you also noticed. Deffo made me smile!!!
I did notice the sound of the horns was very reminiscent of they swimming tk the enterprise
Note that Michael Giacchino composed the title themes of ST: Prodigy and Star Trek, Kelvin edition and also did the music for Star Trek (2009) and ST: Into Darkness. Nami Melumad did the music for this episode of Prodigy (Giacchino's son Mick was a "temp music editor" for this Prodigy episode).
@@Jeffrey_Lew I’m surprised Sean didn’t mention this considering he mentioned the similarities between their pod and Spock’s ship from the Kelvinverse
hi i love your content as I have been a trekkie since the 70’s but lost my sight in 98 and I now use audio description which the discovery and picard shows have but not the new trek shows so I was hoping you could help me contact the appropreate people to ask them to provide audio description on all new trekk TV and movies, according to the wrold health organisation there are over 330 million people world wide who are blind or have moderate to severe vision impairments so it makes great business sence to access this market many thanks Jeff Aka blind advocate
In collage a coworker described to me how Star Trek (old Trek anyway) exists all the way on the audio end of the spectrum on how the plot of the story is driven forward by audio- such that one could follow the plot w/o visuals. And he said Mission Impossible was on the visual end-such that one could follow the plot of those by just watching it w/o sound at all.
Also, I think lots of blind people like Star Trek because a major character, Geordi, is supposedly blind and he funtions w exceptional competency.
Someone once sued Netflix to get captions on everything
There is definitly a Description voice service on the paramount star treks. I have been using it for all new star treks.
Yeah…this seems like a bit of an oversight on paramount’s part
@@blindvoyager then I wonder where they are watching at? I think it’s funny that for most of the time I’ve been watching voyager there was no skip intro button they just added it. Maybe the older content doesn’t have it?
By far my two favourite star treks are Prodigy and Lower Decks.
Prodigy and Lower Decks are my two favorite Star Treks on right now. I was skeptical about Prodigy at first, and I tried watching it with my young son. Turns out he didn't like it that much, but I came to love it. Growing up, Voyager was my favorite ST, so seeing Janeway and Chakotay back is super cool. Plus the new characters have grown on me as well, and Gwyn has a interesting back story and mystery to her.
Sean, I hope you keep making these ups and downs for Prodigy. I'll keep watching them.
So glad the ups and downs for Prodigy is back!!
It occurs to me that they did not steal the ship. They found and recovered the ship. That should count more IMO.
Yeah, and even if you wanna claim they stole the ship, they stole it from those who stole it. It's probably the only case where two wrongs actually do sorta make a right.
@@theblackwidower Still, it *is* a "stolen" ship with a missing crew, and we only have their word -- and the hologram's spotty memories -- on how they came by it. (And that's leaving aside the virus on the ship that travels along communications channels, which may introduce some bias ...)
@@fmitchell238a Yeah, but they quickly tried returning it to the original owners. (I'm ignoring the whole issue with the living construct because they didn't know about it yet.) That alone proves they are not bad actors in this situation. That should be enough to gain enough trust so Starfleet believes them when they say they didn't steal the ship from the original crew.
Besides, you really think Starfleet would just presume a bunch of kids managed to successfully overpower a crew of highly-trained Starfleet officers? I doubt it.
Please more Ups and Downs for Prodigy. The Ups and Downs are my main reasons for subscribing second to the top 10 videos. Prodigy was rough at first but by now has cemented itself into a real trek block of love for myself as well as other. It’s a kids show that isn’t just for kids show. Honestly I like it better then one of the other main running shows we have out there.
Love the Prodigy despite my age! The overall visual, the stories, all of it, just works for me.🖖
I’m just glad that Chakotay’s a captain because it’s the first canon indication we have as to the fate of the Maquis after their return from the DQ. I’m still bitter to this day that Endgame was the last episode and there was no resolution to several long-standing questions for Voyager’s characters!
I'm really enjoying Prodigy and I didn't expect I would.
The line that really got to me between Dal and HoloJaneway was right before the one you mentioned -- paraphrasing:
Dal: They'll see right through me
Janeway: Then let them, they'll see who you truly are
Something about *that* line just got to me and made me like Dal that much more. The entire scene cut through the adolescent tough exterior he puts up, as he's trying to figure out how to put his true self out there to someone he's never met before for possibly the first time in his life.
I want to consume the content I'm already subscribed and I thumbed it up
I think I know what led to the blue shirt’s reassignment to space-Siberia. Everything about your trillium down. My head cannon has me thinking he’s gone “every man for himself” before.
I love the design of the Protostar. I'm also happy with Dal's character progress (much like Ahsoka's early arc). Mostly just happy for a great way to baby step my daughters into Trek.
Chakotay, after all those years! Finally!
15:20 this hasn't always been the case. In Star Trek (2009) when the Narada first arrives and a crew member is being blown into space the sound cuts out and shows the phasers firing at the Narada.
Furthermore, space being _depicted_ as having sound doesn't mean the _characters experience_ sound in space. Ronald D. Moore was up-front about this in his _Battlestar Galactica:_ they *actually tried* a version with no sound, but it just didn't work, so they consider it more of a form of artistic license, similar to the false colors you see on _pretty much every_ astronomical image (where so many of the coolest phenomena don't show up in the visible spectra).
I love Prodigy, I think it's some of the best of modern Star Trek
Finale of Lower Decks and Beginning of Prodigy. What a great week and thanks to TrekCulture to enlighten us.
I think their goal was to have one running trek show at all times . might be a soft goal
Truly, genuinely, LOVE the Trek animated shows. Super impressed with the quality, time and effort put into them
I like Star Trek Prodigy quite a bit. I think I like it more than Discovery. So, I am glad to have Ups & Downs for this series.
I have been watching a few animated series lately. I notice in all of them that the primary models of humans range somewhere from "a bit awkward" (Prodigy) to "pretty bad" (Clone Wars). But in all cases, the background scenes are always better. Some of the backgrounds of Lower Decks are just fabulous. But the backgrounds of Prodigy are easily the best. The background scenes of this episode are just stunning. The relay station blowing itself apart was just great.
Janeway walking through her own hologram may be a reference to a similar scene in Serenity.
I comment cause A) I love Ups and Downs, B) I was waiting for Prodigy like an excited teen who I am very much not anymore. 😂
Roktok's There's more than one! line was great
I'm still so grateful to have a version of ST that I can watch with my kids, and that they enjoy. We'll keep watching every week!
Also the beaming of the whale with a ship in it's mouth, into the bay of the protostar is a big reference to the season 1 of Star trek Discovery, the scene where they beamed the space whale with Mudd in a ship in it's belly
Don't forget star trek 4 where Scotty had to transport a whale and water on to the stolen bird of prey. 😁
A thing for ceteation observations, the denobulian was wearing an alternate future comm badge.
If I had children this would be the series I’d start them on, scientific quirks notwithstanding. There may not be sound in space, but there is love in each of these episodes. 💙
I mean they were in physical contact with the Station, so the vibrations would travel up their legs to their ear drums.
@@DonaldWWitt But they run and jumped like there was gravity and there should not be any... that's down for me.
We the viewer on our side of the 4th wall hear sound in space, it's because the 4th wall is a magic narration device that allows us to hear and see things characters can't.
there is a minimal down from me: in voyager, it was established that chakotays tattoo gets additions when he ages and receives honors.
but here, his tattoo was the same as in voyager.
please continue ups and downs for this
LOVED THIS and will share everywhere! One thing though - no mention of Dal setting off the scanners to alert Starfleet that his species IS recognized? I thought that would be a huge plot point for his arc!
i thought it was hilarious that he's so worked up about not knowing what he is but Gwyn's species is not recognized and everyone just shrugs 😂
yeah I had the same thought
That "notify starfleet alert" for Dal (more likely his species or something about him) is very Omega Directive-like.
I think that he's either part of a [usuall] very hostile and dangerous species (he even could be 8479 in disguise - potentially with memory loss) or he is [heavily] genetically altered or engineered.
@@stefanpolomsky1306 I wonder if he could end up being like Una, a heavily genetically engineered Illyrian. Each colony ended up looking different depending on the modifications they gave them after all.
@@elim_inator - He's one of Janeway and Paris's offspring
I’m really enjoying Prodigy! The writing is pretty good and the animation is lovely. It hits just the right amount of Trek with kids animated show.
I loved how when they were jumping from relay station,everybody is scared but Murf is smiling 😅😁
Murf is a total bad-ass :)
@@JohnnyWednesday You can't brake Murf, you really can't 😁
Your ups and downs were on point, I marathoned season 1A to watch episode 11 and I was glad I did. So far I really enjoy Rok and Holo-Janeway.
This shows getting better every episode
I think Dal has really grown since we first saw him. When we first saw him he was a bratty little toad. Now he's grown up a bit. Cannot wait for the next episode of Prodigy!
Also sounded like the music during the whale bit sampled a bit of the kelvin timeline theme (the one that sounds like doctor strangers theme)
Agreed. It was very Enterprise on the bottom of the Ocean Floor for me
Star Trek: Prodigy rocks (or perhaps it Rok-Tahks)! It may be a Nickelodeon show, but this is no Rugrats or Double Dare. It's like how The Mandalorian and Andor are Disney shows but you wouldn't call them anthropomorphised cartoon animals or fairy tale princesses. Prodigy is genuinely fun, thrilling, equally dark and uplifting; it's funny and has great writing and performances.
It treats its audience like adults - which is great if you're an adult :P
I really liked this episode, it felt like true Star Trek to me. Also, the first part of the episode strongly reminded me of the Voyager episode "Thirty days", where Tom Paris gets 30 days in the brig for helping out an aquatic species against their government's wishes
I'm already subscribed, but I'm happy to give y'all some of that sweet, sweet viewer interaction. Keep these videos coming please!
I've been loving Prodigy from Ep 1. I also agree that Dal was a bit of a bellend in the first few episodes, but he's come a long way. Looking forward to the next one.
Great Star Trek video thank you so much please keep up your amazing work stay safe and in the words of Mister Spock levelong and prosper🖖🏻
I really hope they will bring Robert Picardo into the show. The kids don't have a doctor and with space being inherently dangerous, they would have to state their medical emergency sooner or later. Perhaps Doctor is with admiral Janeway?
Thank you SO much for continuing your ups and downs for Prodigy! I just love this show, and I'm as old as Trekkies get, straight out of the 60's! I LOVED this episode, it picked right up and kept me interested all the way throughout. I LOVE you guys at Trek Culture, too, thanks for the great work!
I thought the "joke" of no sound in space was when we see individual shots of them all screaming and when we get to Murph, there's nothing (since Murph is the only one not in a suit to have atmosphere to make sound)
I want to give more likes - I loooove STP, and I loooove Trekculture. Please keep going with the ups and downs for STP. I’m 51 😅
We love Prodigy, so please keep the Ups & Downs coming!!
I'm very glad U&D for Prodigy is back. The first thing I did after watching the episode was come check if this had been released. Definitely looking forward to more.
P.S. Hey Sean, if you're reading this: you're a legend, keep being awesome!
Sean, in 1966 there were no Paramount executives deciding on the sound of lasers in space. At that time the original series was owned by DeSilu studios. Gulf + Western, which was part of Paramount, acquired it the following year.
One down I had (which is extremely petty) is that there happened to be 4 flight suits perfectly fitting the 4 VERY different sized main characters, on a relay station with a crew of one!
The suits adapt to the body of the wearer
@@JohnnyWednesday I just had that thought after I posted! Makes sense
I was kind of surprised that Jankom was surprised that tellarites were founding members. it was in Holo Janeway's speech on what the federation is when they first board the protostar
at least 6 more seasons, please and thank you.
I Not only want you to continue doing ups & Downs for Prodigy, I look forward to you doing one for Every Star Trek Episode in the Future. In Fact if you ever get bored feel free to do one for each of the episodes of all the *previous* series and why not all the movies as well.
Lately I have been looking forward to watch one of these almost as much as the episodes themselves (I have been watching these since Strange New Worlds)
Loved it! I have liked Prodigy from the beginning. Yes, I have a few problems with some of the episodes, but mostly, I love it.
Cetacean observations that include cetaceans. That's great! That was a fun episode too!
On your down, there's a reason he's a Lt(jg) on his own at the farthest reaches of Star Fleet. This must be where you go when you screw up at Starbase 80. I already like Prodigy and would like to see more ups and downs for it going forward.
An up for me: Prodigy is actually being released at the same time for those of us in the UK. This is the first episode I've watched on release, and it's refreshing to be able to watch discussion videos without having to hide from the things for a day in feat of spoilers. (Or, what, a month in the case of SNW S1?)
A down: Wow, these episodes are short for a weekly show!
I did think that the guy in charge of the outpost let the side down with his actions, but you don't get posted to the ass-end of nowhere because you're the cream of the crop. Maybe he'll end up on Starbase 80, if the thing hasn't imploded by Prodigy's time.
I think Barnus turning coward and leaving Dal and friends to die on the station was a pretty solid explanation of why he's posted to that relay station at the ass end of Federation space.
Agreed. Wish Paramount+ would drop the one episode per week schedule and just start dropping entire seasons, like Netflix does.
This show is for kids and that's the reason for short episodes. Longer format is hard to assimilate by younger audience 😉
It’s great for us adult ADDers as well - I love trek but have to watch each ep 2-3 times to assimilate the whole of it. I actually feel quite lucky btw - there are people that would give their right arm to be able to rewatch and discover completely new stuff each time! 😊
@@amoktimeflies I love it, but for me it's good to watch few episodes in the row as one longer episode 😉
Please more of star trek pro was a great episode
I'm all aboard for star trek prodigy
I love Prodigy. I love Trekculture. Please keep making these Ups and Downs 😄
Yay Ups & Downs for Prodigy! I can't wait to find out what species Dal is.
I love Star Trek Prodigy
Yay! Sean's Ups & Downs are my favourite Trek content - fantastic to have Prodigy back. 🖖❤
I think my favorite part was the final frontier jokes & the kids shrugging it off. It’s their backyard not far flung space like it is for him!
I really enjoy Prodigy in many ways I think it is actually better than Lower Decks.
Lower Decks is of course primarily comedy. Prodigy may have a slightly more serious tone to it (and is for a younger audience, but not saying it doesn't appeal to Trekkies generally).
Barnus abandoning the "crew" of the Protostar to die on the station to me explains why he's manning a relay station on the fringes of Federation space: He's not even close to the best of Starfleet. He's an example of the worst: Warm and welcoming when there's no challenge or danger, but the moment something goes wrong he turns coward and acts to save himself with no regard for others.
I love the evolution of Canon Watch into this Galactic Truth Network and to see the bad blood between Other Séan and the Federation News Network :D That you've given this character a story line is so fun!
I like to pretend that other Sean actually works for Babylon 5's ISN :P
@@JohnnyWednesday under Clarke's regime? Now THAT'S FUNNY!!🤣🤣🤣
@@lamartherevenger - He reported Santiago's assassination 20 minutes before it happened!
I detest the canon watch segments. Not funny just irritating.
Personally, I think we have enough fake right wing conspiracy theorists on the internet. If I wanted to see an incel complain about canon, I'd watch Nitpicking Nerd/Major Grin or Atomwaffen.
They had the same music from the Kelvin movies when they emerge from the ocean!!
The actions of the denobulan doctor to me is very reminiscent of the first episode of season 4 of discovery, when the captain of the station pulls out a phaser and holds it to the rest of the crew
To force them onto another deck to escape. Not to abandon them. In fact he is one of the last people to leave the station.
Pretty sure he's not a doctor
@@augustjsb he had a blue uniform so at least he was a scientist
Hopefully, the Ups and Downs can continue for the rest of the season
I really hope you guys continue this for the rest of the Prodigy episodes, my dad and I have found the ups and downs to be a really good way for us to discuss our own thoughts on each week's episode. On a few episodes of this season of Lower Decks it took us over an hour to watch the ups and downs b/c of our agreements or disagreements with Sean's ideas. Very much enjoy will tune in next week, if you choose to do one. 🖖🏻
I for one am riveted to Ups and Downs to follow the amazing character arc of Shaun Blass.
I will say Prodigy started off rough, which is to be expected since it is meant to introduce Trek to a new generation but. I feel like this backhalf is gonna be bonkers. I'm surprised Sean didn't make note of how Dahl's race, whatever it is set off MEGA ALERTS about contact Starfleet.
Don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but the font used for "Cetacean Observations" was the same font used for the covers of the STAR TREK comics produced by Gold Key Comics during the 1970's. (No doubt deliberately. lol)
Welcome back!! So happy to see the return of Ups and Downs for Prodigy!
Zero wearing a Starfleet badge is perfection
My theory about sound in space has always been humans and most beings have problems with actual silence (I know I do and any time you see actual silent space it seams wrong and unfinished) so to help with this com badges and view screens synthetically ADD sound to fill it in and make it feel more right.
I never miss and episode of ups and downs on any of the series I'm watching! love you guys at Trekculture for all the trek content you make!
I was very excited to see this one, I felt like it was some really good Trek
Honestly I really like Prodigy. Far better than Discovery or Picard. My daughter and I look forward to every episode.
Yayyyyyy More TrekCulture and Seán Ferrick 🖖!! Yes please!!!
I was surprised by how much I enjoy prodigy
Really enjoyed the ups and downs series so far. Keep it up.
The "no sound in space" may be a reference to the movie "Alien." It had the tag line "In space no one can hear you scream." That is because THERE IS NO SOUND IN SPACE!
finally caught the episode. and it's fun coming here to watch this after to share the experience.
Haven't seen this yet, but want to appreciate the epic absurdity of the whole "let's bring chakotay back!" approach.
It's as if people had made a "what's the thing trek fans have demanded the least, ever" contest, and then ran with "bring Chakotay back" after it won its photo finish against "we want more backstory on ensign Mayweather" 😄
Prodigy is great. I only got to watching it this summer and it was great. Start is a tad rough with the unlikable Dal but kept improving.
I hope this gets enough views to continue the ups and downs. This is my favorite part of the channel.
love this show we want more
Yes, I would love to see more.
This ep was fantastic.
I loved this episode! STP just keeps getting better and better.
Ohhhh, so Murf of all people was the Token Heroic Orc of this series. Neat.
Now all we need is a good Transporter Clone or a good Romulan in the main cast
you should give us ups and downs of classic/acclaimed old episodes from OG Trek, TNG, Voyager, Deep Space Nine, Enterprise, The movies..... hell just give us ups and downs of the whole damn franchise I can hear you talk about trek all day. Hell I would love to hear an ups and downs of These Are the Voyages... an episode that hell I'll say it is one of my favorites top five no joke
I haven’t watched Prodigy, but this was a helpful view into what it’s all about.
More like this please.
This review was an Up, Sean. Thank you.
I love the Prodigy Ups and Downs. Good job.