you’re mad and upset about why? well yoyre anger and you’re you are angey to be about you know this isn’t the right appropriate anger yoyre stop in you
I remember playing back then. I used to go to a friend's house who had 6 PC's set up under his house. In like a basement type place. We would game and have fun.
Love the content, i used to think runescape history videos would be kind of dry outside of the timeline videos but you have managed to convince me wrong time and time again. Thank you for the effort you put into the videos!
Omg I don't even think Rab realized just how much early history he was preserving that would have otherwise been lost to time forever. This is incredibly valuable lore stuff. THANK YOU for preserving these early memories for a game that millions of people love. Chat logs from the year 2000 about RuneScape's development, jeezus that's cool!
I'm in this discord who are trying to replicate what runescape classic was like on the very first day and are looking for old mudclient builds of it. I'm glad that you did this interview with Rab because I have always been fascinated with what happened before. He is perhaps one of the last alpha testers of runescape and it's great that we did it on the 20th year of Runescape.
@Terminus Est Have you had some insight / luck on old mudclients? The earliest that are on rsc pages for download are for mud39. Must be quite interesting a recreation of rsc from first day. Is there some way to join the discord you are in?
12:50 I remember seeing Runescape hit 10k players at once the first time. I couldn't believe there were that many people playing a single game at the same time
Had some amazing memories PKing around lumbridge, fighting at cabbage fields, chicken area, etc. I was there when they released Falador... What a great adventure :)
I remember in 2008 when I first played , they had changed the appearance of the rune scims several times and movement styles when you attacked with them.
Willmissit, You are truly amazing to put so much effort in this stuff. Not only is this a learning thing for us but its amazing to see al of this memorys from the old days. Runescape means alot to players like me who played it for years now and seeing pieces of the old game and getting to know stuff i didnt know before is just amazing. You put alot of time in stuff like this. Thank you !
I played in 2002 and 2003 while in middle school with a friend who introduced it to me. I introduced it to my brother and cousins. We had years of fun playing together from RSC to Oldschool, all through middle school and high school. R2h was the best Pking weapon in RSC. Bunny ears and scythes were around then too. I haven't played runescape for years. The new game doesn't really interest me. I still watch videos about it but no way to find the time to play it now that I'm married.
Thank you for this!! This video essentially wraps up this loose-end memory I've had for a long time! I encountered Rab once or twice in a Jmod's CC on RS2, not long after the removal of free trade. He talked a bit about making a quest, the very early days of RS, and was pretty chill in the CC. It was a brief encounter, but was something I've always remembered even though I was suspicious of his quest-authoring claims. (At the time, I had no way to confirm if he was telling the truth or just another liar on the internet.) :)
@@ProfessionalGasLighting as sad as it sounds I would better than the situation there in now . apparently the average person earns 1$ a monthere that’s like 2m gp in underground prices lol
That was one of the forum pages I chose not to show; it was a thread that wasn't very sensitive to 9/11. Keep in mind this was a month after that incident, and unfortunately the game were riddled with toxic players even back then...
In the grand scheme of things I didn't do much. I wrote a few quests, sure, but Andrew had worked on this for around 2-3 years solid before I came along. Paul chose to quit other work to help run RS, and it became a very full time job for him. I was just a friend and volunteer who wanted to help make it as good as possible. I don't think that qualifies me as deserving any grand payout. I made a point of paying my own members, but then when I found out that JMods got members free I did think maybe it would have been a gesture to give me that. But by then I had quit so i doubt I would have got any benefit from it anyway. It is fun to have been involved early on anyway.
Censors the nicknames in the forum because he wouldn’t want his name discussed in a video anyways... LOOK AT THIS TABLE WITH 400 PEOPLE AND THEIR LOGIN TIMES. THIS GUY HERE 13 DAYS PLAYED, VIRTUALLY A NO LIFER! LOL!
I remember botting in 2002/2003. I came back and a mod had teled me to an unknown location and was talking to me. I quickly logged out without saying anything and ended up getting banned. That was my lesson learned :D
I hate that you didn't scroll through the entire list! I wanted to check for my username! I don't see any details in the video description either in regards to the list. I've met both Paul and Andrew in game way back when
looking at the screenshot at 5:08, looking at the file "old player login_files" Does this mean that he had the usernames and passwords of players from that time? Really curious!
There is an HTML page saved and named 'old player login'. It is one shown in the vid, showing the 429 online players, their playing time, and their character age. 'old player login_files' is the directory automatically created when you save an html to put the extra bits in. all the '_files' are from saving HTML pages. No, I never had even a list of usernames, let alone passwords :D
Ahhhh, blackmarks... I remember those 😂 I got wrongly "permanently" banned on my main one time, many years ago, thanks to the black mark system and all the points I racked up from false reports. One day I hit 12.5/10 points and got banned. Thank gawdddd for the last chance appeal system, my account was restored and nearly all of my blackmarks removed. What a wild journey its been!
i played the shit out of rs classic in like third grade in 2000. i think i remember cities (or maybe just lumby) being the only safe areas. when i first started i chose a fighter class and got the small boost to stats, and walked out the castle and was immediately killed by high level accounts just killing noobs every time they left the castle lol. i eventually made it out and did stuff. i was so stoked when i had my first full set of armor. iron legs, bronze plate, iron full helm. i felt unkillable hahaha
There were no official records on when accounts were created until Members appeared, so every account older than February 2002 was marked as starting there. Anyone older than that date will be able to get their 20 year cape in 2022. The first 2000 list that exposed Rab as the first player was an accidental feature of the herblore high score tables, around november 2001. Before that time nobody was certain who the very first players were.
I remember logging into rs classic in 2014 or so, I was so lost haha because of how different it felt. Wish I had tried it out more before the servers were completely shut down
Man this breaks my heart. The amount of hours I’ve spent on RuneScape is unfathomable to me today. I was there from the beginning as well. I ended up slowly logging in less and less until I decided to buy gold with real money so I didn’t have to go through the grind. I got banned for it permanently. Man what a day that was, walking away from 10+ years of my childhood. I wrote the 3 appeal letters to no avail sadly. Rip Ssj 2 Gohan
@10:00 "cooking on top, first skill" Maybe the first non-combat skill. Considering there was armor listed, I'd assume the primary combat skills you didn't show (or weren't listed) were the first skills; hit points, attack, strength, defense, and ranged. Before "working" on the game, you'd start on a drawing board where you decide whether it will include combat or not. With that said, food (cooking) only gets considered once you have hit points to restore and thus it's unrealistic as a first skill.
Interesting fact: at 5:28, the Runescape script snytax file extension is .htm instead of .html as it is displayed today because the widely-used FAT16 disk format had an 8 character maximum for file names, and 3 character max for file extensions.
I remember reading the saradomin speaks news letters when I was a little bean, thinking how cool and unique the game was. That is one hell of a nostalgic memory I didn't even know I had.
I didn't design the mousemat, it was just one that Andrew made with the art he had. But that was an easy mistake to make when I was sending files over. It was very pretty, I don't know if it was actually made into mousemats or was just an idea for early merchandise.
@@rabrhee I see I'm about 8 months late to the party, but is there any place where all this art exists that one could download it? The art at 4:48 most of all, but the rest of the art in the video too. If so, I'd really appreciate it!
@@marginis I believe @rswillmissit said somewhere that all the files I sent him will be put in a storage area linked to a runescape group. I think by now this stuff is old enough not to cause too many people too much stress, but I'm still wary about making everything public myself. Will doesn't have absolutely everything but has possibly most of it. The Mousemat is a classic, I can probably put that up somewhere if Will doesn't. A few have personal bits, like ICQ logs, which I will never make totally public, mainly because there should be some expectation of privacy on personal chats. Instead I screenshot parts of those chats that are solidly Runescape.
@@rabrhee That would be awesome for the mousemat! And honestly, as a graphic designer I'm only interested in the art, so I'm okay without the text logs and such. Those old item graphics and such would just be *chef's kiss* for reference - they're basically classical art at this point lol.
DeviousMUD was techically just a play test for what would become RS. Very, very early stages, but not really RS. The game we know, or that was released in 01, was completely recorded and redesigned.
I posted a comment with some wrong info; could be Rab tested that too considering they were recruited from GamesDomain. I have to double check my sources...
@@rswillmissit I never tested Devious Mud. I have been accused of it many times, but no. None of the people I tested RS with (Lightning, Gugge, Merlin) played it. First I saw of anything was Feb 2000, and that was the same RS style that opened in 2001. Some of the graphics we have seen were originally used there, that's not surprising, I bet a few went to Games Domain and out again.
![ผัวเถื่อน - ยูริ โตเกียวมิวสิค [ OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/P08ORRVDGl8/mqdefault.jpg)
It's nuts that Rab just happened to archive these files 20 years ago!
I give the highest praise to all archivers.
you’re mad and upset about why? well yoyre anger and you’re you are angey to be about you know this isn’t the right appropriate anger yoyre stop in you
@@boyhelios9171 Godzilla Had a Stroke Trying to Read This and Fucking Died
@@Steven-nq7fx Did you catch it? His insanity? Are you compromised?
He must have had faith in the game
Imagine a quest where your player is teleported to an alternate reality that is just the original DeviousMUD map with RS2 graphics.
The wizard Gower transports you back in time :^)
I have got a lot of time in the game and I’m not able To play it for the past few years
I have to get a computer
@@andipatel5044 theres a mobile app now
@@prussia1557 I have to make a new account?
@@andipatel5044 no
I remember playing back then. I used to go to a friend's house who had 6 PC's set up under his house. In like a basement type place. We would game and have fun.
Wow, that sounds incredible
@@Dryblack1 yes it was Cs, runescape golden eye, it was all fun.
7:45
Imagine being able to play for 2 hours straight without anyone calling your mom on the landline.
I had to do my first fire cape in 5 sessions, mum would be wanting the phone every 20 minutes lol
Wow i forgot about those days, i died and lost my entire bank once due to that bullshit. Made 9 year old me so sad :(
Love the content, i used to think runescape history videos would be kind of dry outside of the timeline videos but you have managed to convince me wrong time and time again. Thank you for the effort you put into the videos!
Huge words! Thank you so much!
Omg I don't even think Rab realized just how much early history he was preserving that would have otherwise been lost to time forever. This is incredibly valuable lore stuff. THANK YOU for preserving these early memories for a game that millions of people love. Chat logs from the year 2000 about RuneScape's development, jeezus that's cool!
I'm in this discord who are trying to replicate what runescape classic was like on the very first day and are looking for old mudclient builds of it. I'm glad that you did this interview with Rab because I have always been fascinated with what happened before. He is perhaps one of the last alpha testers of runescape and it's great that we did it on the 20th year of Runescape.
I think I'm in that one too! It's been huge help.
@Terminus Est Have you had some insight / luck on old mudclients? The earliest that are on rsc pages for download are for mud39. Must be quite interesting a recreation of rsc from first day. Is there some way to join the discord you are in?
awesome!
What discord is that
I love these Rab information videos. Can't wait for the next one. :)
so freakin cool :) thank you for the great quality content!
12:50 I remember seeing Runescape hit 10k players at once the first time. I couldn't believe there were that many people playing a single game at the same time
Andrew - Time to open the expensive wine!
Rab - 6 quid?
Andrew - 10 quid!
Lmaoo
Had some amazing memories PKing around lumbridge, fighting at cabbage fields, chicken area, etc. I was there when they released Falador... What a great adventure :)
BS.
@@Matt.P. Ok =)
I remember in 2008 when I first played , they had changed the appearance of the rune scims several times and movement styles when you attacked with them.
Willmissit, You are truly amazing to put so much effort in this stuff. Not only is this a learning thing for us but its amazing to see al of this memorys from the old days. Runescape means alot to players like me who played it for years now and seeing pieces of the old game and getting to know stuff i didnt know before is just amazing. You put alot of time in stuff like this. Thank you !
I miss classic so much. There wasn't really anything like it back then.
No! You are bad!
Crazy to think that some of us here (on RS) have played RS for longer than most new players have been alive lol.
I played in 2002 and 2003 while in middle school with a friend who introduced it to me. I introduced it to my brother and cousins. We had years of fun playing together from RSC to Oldschool, all through middle school and high school. R2h was the best Pking weapon in RSC. Bunny ears and scythes were around then too. I haven't played runescape for years. The new game doesn't really interest me. I still watch videos about it but no way to find the time to play it now that I'm married.
feels good to of played runescape this long ago, i was like... 10 or 11 years old at the time i was playing, and im 31 now
Imagine finding yourself in these name like 20 years later
so interesting, thanks Rab
Thank you for this!! This video essentially wraps up this loose-end memory I've had for a long time! I encountered Rab once or twice in a Jmod's CC on RS2, not long after the removal of free trade. He talked a bit about making a quest, the very early days of RS, and was pretty chill in the CC. It was a brief encounter, but was something I've always remembered even though I was suspicious of his quest-authoring claims. (At the time, I had no way to confirm if he was telling the truth or just another liar on the internet.) :)
can you upload all these files for us to archive?
I was fortunate that the classic servers were still running in 04! Was a great experience
Imagine if Andrew actually added the ability to smith GP directly - what would the economy be like nowadays lol
The French MMO Wakfu tried this, and it made for an odd economy.
Like Venezuela
Almost as shit as this video
@@brandonmcgillis Venezuela will announce RuneScape GP as its national currency
@@ProfessionalGasLighting as sad as it sounds I would better than the situation there in now . apparently the average person earns 1$ a monthere that’s like 2m gp in underground prices lol
Some of these people sound familiar… I think they were friends with my dad. I remember hearing lady killjoy and lady Medusa before…
5:12
'i ll fly you into a ing building?''
That was one of the forum pages I chose not to show; it was a thread that wasn't very sensitive to 9/11. Keep in mind this was a month after that incident, and unfortunately the game were riddled with toxic players even back then...
Great work William. I'm excited for all we can learn from this!
This is what i call, myself reminding me of how i began playing runescape in late 2002
bro this felt like going through an old photo album of my childhood.
Made me feel some type of way
Man, how do you do it.. So much respect from me, and all of us, RS players. Your content about RS is God like.
Palace guards... Sounds like the guards in Al karid
I thought so too! But it was quite far away, especially in classic...
03:43 Bottom left corner. Things haven't changed much, have they?
Is Rab still friends with gowers? Must suck knowing that they're worth millions now while you get nothing even though you helped build it
I guess it must've been like any other job. They're not in touch any more though
Gowers brothers are one of the richest people in the u.k
In the grand scheme of things I didn't do much. I wrote a few quests, sure, but Andrew had worked on this for around 2-3 years solid before I came along. Paul chose to quit other work to help run RS, and it became a very full time job for him. I was just a friend and volunteer who wanted to help make it as good as possible. I don't think that qualifies me as deserving any grand payout. I made a point of paying my own members, but then when I found out that JMods got members free I did think maybe it would have been a gesture to give me that. But by then I had quit so i doubt I would have got any benefit from it anyway. It is fun to have been involved early on anyway.
@@rabrhee you're basically one of our grandads. I love you. Thank yoi for all of your contributions to this game
Censors the nicknames in the forum because he wouldn’t want his name discussed in a video
anyways...
LOOK AT THIS TABLE WITH 400 PEOPLE AND THEIR LOGIN TIMES. THIS GUY HERE 13 DAYS PLAYED, VIRTUALLY A NO LIFER! LOL!
I remember botting in 2002/2003. I came back and a mod had teled me to an unknown location and was talking to me. I quickly logged out without saying anything and ended up getting banned. That was my lesson learned :D
Thanks for the upload :)
Your welcome
@@aShamelessHigh th15 15nt 3ng115h c1@55 dumb@55
@@aShamelessHigh by using common sense which clearly you do not have😂😂😂😂
I hate that you didn't scroll through the entire list! I wanted to check for my username! I don't see any details in the video description either in regards to the list. I've met both Paul and Andrew in game way back when
Can you explain to us why he had a file named "I'll fly you into a building"
2 months after 9/11?
Sewing is pronounced Sowing or Soe-ing not Sue-ing. Despite the way it looks, english is weird.
You can enable the "Date created" column in windows to see file creation date. Not just date modified!
anchovy pizza is still the highest healing food in f2p
Turns out it's Raab himself from Viva La Bam.
am i going to waste my time on another video about rab only for it to be a lie too?
jagex is fucking legendary + Rab
Here comes the bot farm that spams getting 2gp from a beggar
Very kool. Ty for this info.
21 hour ago OMGAAJSJS
I wonder how he found out about runescape.
looking at the screenshot at 5:08, looking at the file "old player login_files" Does this mean that he had the usernames and passwords of players from that time? Really curious!
I don't think so... The way I gather it, this was the page you got when selecting a server to log in to. Like we do in the lobby these days on RS3
@@rswillmissit interesting! Thank you
There is an HTML page saved and named 'old player login'. It is one shown in the vid, showing the 429 online players, their playing time, and their character age. 'old player login_files' is the directory automatically created when you save an html to put the extra bits in. all the '_files' are from saving HTML pages. No, I never had even a list of usernames, let alone passwords :D
@@rabrhee Thanks Rab!
@@rswillmissit What's the song at 03:53
Ahhhh, blackmarks... I remember those 😂 I got wrongly "permanently" banned on my main one time, many years ago, thanks to the black mark system and all the points I racked up from false reports. One day I hit 12.5/10 points and got banned. Thank gawdddd for the last chance appeal system, my account was restored and nearly all of my blackmarks removed. What a wild journey its been!
wow its rab himself
Runescript looks a lot like assembly
Thanks, another banger!
SMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASH THAT LIKE BUTTON
i played the shit out of rs classic in like third grade in 2000. i think i remember cities (or maybe just lumby) being the only safe areas. when i first started i chose a fighter class and got the small boost to stats, and walked out the castle and was immediately killed by high level accounts just killing noobs every time they left the castle lol. i eventually made it out and did stuff. i was so stoked when i had my first full set of armor. iron legs, bronze plate, iron full helm. i felt unkillable hahaha
If Rab was first rs player why does he not have the 20 year cape yet?
There were no official records on when accounts were created until Members appeared, so every account older than February 2002 was marked as starting there. Anyone older than that date will be able to get their 20 year cape in 2022. The first 2000 list that exposed Rab as the first player was an accidental feature of the herblore high score tables, around november 2001. Before that time nobody was certain who the very first players were.
@@rabrhee wow thanks for that
Damn, ladykilljoy is a name drop.
Find more gems like Sandytrain, Tepence, Irish, Lizardbreath, bluerose13x, or maybe if you're lucky.... Philip
I remember logging into rs classic in 2014 or so, I was so lost haha because of how different it felt. Wish I had tried it out more before the servers were completely shut down
This was super interesting!
Man this breaks my heart. The amount of hours I’ve spent on RuneScape is unfathomable to me today.
I was there from the beginning as well. I ended up slowly logging in less and less until I decided to buy gold with real money so I didn’t have to go through the grind. I got banned for it permanently. Man what a day that was, walking away from 10+ years of my childhood. I wrote the 3 appeal letters to no avail sadly.
Rip
Ssj 2 Gohan
@10:00 "cooking on top, first skill" Maybe the first non-combat skill.
Considering there was armor listed, I'd assume the primary combat skills you didn't show (or weren't listed) were the first skills; hit points, attack, strength, defense, and ranged. Before "working" on the game, you'd start on a drawing board where you decide whether it will include combat or not. With that said, food (cooking) only gets considered once you have hit points to restore and thus it's unrealistic as a first skill.
Interesting fact: at 5:28, the Runescape script snytax file extension is .htm instead of .html as it is displayed today because the widely-used FAT16 disk format had an 8 character maximum for file names, and 3 character max for file extensions.
rofl hes talking about danny1880.. no way. if danny1880 watches this video message me. you wont believe who i am
Once again a great video, my friend 🥰
I remember reading the saradomin speaks news letters when I was a little bean, thinking how cool and unique the game was. That is one hell of a nostalgic memory I didn't even know I had.
Was hoping that playerlist would scroll down to the "L" section and i could see if my character was on it! it never got down far enough sadly!
Man the classic model for skeletons with scimi is so nostalgic
we should be able to turn a gold bar into 50 gold coins or with a upgrade gained from dungeoneering makes it 500 gold little things like that be cool
Yeah buddy
I feel like I just watched a proud mother go thru her child's photo album gushing the whole way.
If I could just say words and have beggars GIVE ME Stuff instead. holy shit
lets go
Huge
Hype
very cool
Nice!!
Bluerose was so nice. Had her on my friends list back in the day. Man I miss those days
4:48 my new phone wallpaper lol
I didn't design the mousemat, it was just one that Andrew made with the art he had. But that was an easy mistake to make when I was sending files over. It was very pretty, I don't know if it was actually made into mousemats or was just an idea for early merchandise.
@@rabrhee im kinda in shock you replied to me, lol nerding out. Livin legend bud!
@@rabrhee I see I'm about 8 months late to the party, but is there any place where all this art exists that one could download it? The art at 4:48 most of all, but the rest of the art in the video too. If so, I'd really appreciate it!
@@marginis I believe @rswillmissit said somewhere that all the files I sent him will be put in a storage area linked to a runescape group. I think by now this stuff is old enough not to cause too many people too much stress, but I'm still wary about making everything public myself. Will doesn't have absolutely everything but has possibly most of it. The Mousemat is a classic, I can probably put that up somewhere if Will doesn't.
A few have personal bits, like ICQ logs, which I will never make totally public, mainly because there should be some expectation of privacy on personal chats. Instead I screenshot parts of those chats that are solidly Runescape.
@@rabrhee That would be awesome for the mousemat!
And honestly, as a graphic designer I'm only interested in the art, so I'm okay without the text logs and such. Those old item graphics and such would just be *chef's kiss* for reference - they're basically classical art at this point lol.
"ill fly you into a building" wonder what that could be referencing
These guards are the ones in between draynor and lumbridge, might be :)
"You've been playing long consider taking a break"
It makes sense that their first npc would be named a name like Bob.
im the 1155th player ever sign up on Runescape! :D
you sad sad people
20k views only on this is rude asf lmao.
they should still teleport bots to the wilderness to shame them
Awesome video man. Thanks for this
Wonderful video, as always! Very interesting to watch
would be cool if you uploaded these documents somewhere for people who want to read every bit of these documents.
Will upload shortly!
so runescript is like basic? lmao.
miss pking in monk robs and a rune 2h.
This is so cool
What's the next video essay on?! 😍
how are you verified with only 77k subs?
Because I'm super official
This was really cool. ty dude.
Pog for the algorithm
I miss the classic days.
gg sueing skill.
one minute after release. never been this early.
20min here
Cool story bro
Rab was, once.
Please make more Rs Classic Vids!You are making a lot of old gamers very happy
I would if I could!
@@rswillmissit why not? You've got some extra gems from Rab you ain't put into a video yet. Literally anything to do with Classic would be gold
What about deviousMUD era way earlier than RSC
DeviousMUD was techically just a play test for what would become RS. Very, very early stages, but not really RS. The game we know, or that was released in 01, was completely recorded and redesigned.
@@brbhave2p00p4 Given there were only twenty seven people that played DeviousMUD, that may be even more difficult to find out.
I posted a comment with some wrong info; could be Rab tested that too considering they were recruited from GamesDomain. I have to double check my sources...
@@rswillmissit I never tested Devious Mud. I have been accused of it many times, but no. None of the people I tested RS with (Lightning, Gugge, Merlin) played it. First I saw of anything was Feb 2000, and that was the same RS style that opened in 2001. Some of the graphics we have seen were originally used there, that's not surprising, I bet a few went to Games Domain and out again.