Worst MMO Ever? - Adventure Quest 3D
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Personal Opinion, Artix games have some of the funniest writing of any game, the comic timing, references and understanding of comedic conventions is masterful, that being said...
the transition to 3d has not been too kind.
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Me, who's been an AE fan since middle school hearing all this slander: yea he right
We were here for the humor, not the graphics. AE games laugh at themselves and dont take themselves seriously. I still play dragonfable, and adventure quest.
@@theevilben666 im also a 8 years aqw player and the game lag so bad resulting a bad mood to look the contents that u said (averagely) funny
AE slander for everything other than dragon fable. Tomix and verly are the goats
@@theevilben666 the happy go lucky outward appearance comes with the baggage of exploiting minors for free labor, and being among the earliest of the non-arcade game developers to encourage children to whale with their parent's money by selling "exclusive" overpowered items for hundreds / thousands of dollars.
@@Xendra lol dude, my parents credit card was on runescape, wow, diablo 2, and more, before adventurequest came around. I'd argue any game with a subscriber model is pay to win. Atleast adventure quest you felt stronger after buying the guardian bundle, which was a one time payment, and I still have. I mean plenty of people wear Nike, or buy mcdonalds, or shop at Walmart. I ain't gonna pretend to care about child labour we all benifit from it. I wish the world was smart enough to capitalize of the 18 years give or take children are useless to society, and gaming companies fi ally figured it out.
I think they would have struck gold if after yeeting you across the continent, the cultists actually summoned Vane and he yeets you AGAIN, twice as hard.
That would have been fantastic
Eh. Its an improvement over the intro I started where Vane just throws you into Battleon.
@@OverseerXIII which is an improvement from Beta when I started where you're just in battleon with no tutorial 😅
@@Schmaglow yeah. Makes me kinda sad I joined on launce cose I really wana experience that begining XD
Vane: how many times do i have to teach you this lesson chosen one
* yeets me twice as hard*
7:20 okay the villain beating the tar out of you and then throwing you across the map is legitimately super funny
And then they removed that entire sequence, goodie.
Just started today, it's here@@wyattmurphy7153
Adventure Quest Worlds holds a special place in my heart, as the first MMO-adjacent game I ever got into as a kid. It made me love interacting with other players and having non-serious fun with them, but I eventually grew out of it. It makes me sad to see videos like this, but I'm glad I'll always have the good memories at least.
This video is really just an adult man getting pissed that a game made for pre-teens wasn't made for adults. For me I don't play aq3d when I want a serious storyline or complicated mechanics, I play it when I'm having a shit day and I want something that's gonna take help me have fun without having to work for it.
I kinda feel like it'd be ruined if they tried to make it more like bigger MMOs, there's an entire genre of games out there that are half-baked, poorly written, poorly designed MMOs targeting kids, with absurd monetization and addictive gameplay loops, aq3d is hilariously written, simplistically designed, with less greed than the vast majority of freetoplay games on the market, and keeps it's younger audience away from brainless games made to drain their attention and their parent's wallet. It shouldn't need to be more than it is.
Not every game needs to be the best on the market to be a great game.
@@TrickyDryad being made for pre teens doesn’t mean it can’t be better, he’s asking for things like sound effects and different music. nothing wrong with criticism
I still Play the original adventurer quest. It's still pretty fun.
Yep, AQW was one of the first games I had a mmo like experience in. Had a lot of fun with all the classes until you realize that no matter how long you play as a f2p player you will never be able to experience that much of the game outside of what they've allotted as not paywalled. 99% of any items you'll ever want for your character are locked behind a paywall of being a member, or like most of the interesting classes are locked behind a ridiculous reputation grind that will take you days of constant grinding.
honestly wish i could log into worlds again, but i lost the email i registered it on
The fact that you named yourself Ebony Darkness Dementia Raven deserves a compliment.
A true "My Immortal" stan.
I knew this seemed familiar.
This is why.
yessss
I hate myself for instantly getting his reference
@@DevonDekhran why tho. My immortal is literature that deserves a nobel prize
@@iagodiago An Ig-Nobel Prize
You could tell artix probably watched this cuz recently the cursor changed now
@@Nezhakiin Good MMO on mobile AND desktop? RuneScape
@@Nezhakiin Runescape (Both old school and 3), Albion online, Villagers and heroes all have crossplay across PC or mobile.
Celtic heroes feels like an old school PC game but its a mobile game. I'm not sure if it has PC port.
@@ilovebiscuits7771 Ty for game suggestions
Albion is trash
@@neonraytracer8846 desktop? definitely. Mobile? eh.... Could be better.
One thing though: Artix games can have *deep* storylines. My absolute favourite was The Devourer Saga, where basically everyone in Lore teams up to fight a fantasy Death Star that is also Satan. You had new characters and old, and their relationships. Characters died, betrayed each other, and Th'Galin (the Death Star Satan) actually has a tragic backstory. Yes, you still fight frogzards and have bad puns and all that stuff. The key is the dark stuff needs to contrast the light heartedness. I was already playing AQ for a few years by the time The Devourer Saga started, so the change in tone was shocking in itself.
The same thing with Dragonfable. You spend the majority of the game taking boxes from Smeevils and finding magic socks, and like 10% figuring out your baby dragon is actually the evil one of a pair that will decide the fate of the world. Also the good one was turned into a dracolich named fluffy.
Yep. And even 13 Lords of Chaos was super engaging. I mean you started where Dragonfable left off on the ShadowSchyte. Gravelyn grew up, Sepulchure died. Drakath became Chaos. And the people they brought on Like One Eyed Doll, Voltaire, TMBG
@@Peritye yes! I remember always being there for the weekly releases and meeting up with friends in-game. Very many good memories and times!
Ravenloss was amazing too
imo DragonFable's book 3 is the peak of Artix Entertainment storywriting
Exactly this! The main appeal for AQ games are the deep and engaging storyline, hidden under a blanket of puns and jokes. That is why I keep coming back every few year or so to see if there’s any new storyline. I had even got the Darkside class
Unironically the ONLY mmo I've enjoyed so far, it's simple, no boring complex questioned and you can be a necromancer! And the community is not toxic, and very talkative!
One thing, that game is heavily tongue in cheek.
@@powerist209 it's adventure quest.
The simplicity of it is what keeps me playing tbh
I also find the art style very charming.
"And the community is not toxic, and very talkative!"
In the few weeks I played, the only guy who interacted with me was a MF who was placing himself on my character on purpose to annoy me, and reported me when I asked him to stop doing that.
He is complaining of quest that arent any different than the ones I did in WoW. "Kill 5 wolves", "Kill 5 solders"... you know how many Ogres i killed to get a key for prisoners in Nagrand? I killed all of them... All of them... there are no ogres left in Nagrand.
Hahahahaha
but WoW came wayy before aq3d.
"I... I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead. Every single one of them. And not just the men, but the women and the children too. They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals. I hate them!"
That's the point, though. Those quests were shitty in WoW in the early 2000s, and they're beyond shitty now in 2021. They haven't aged like wine, they've aged like grandpa's opinion on minorities.
Yeah, I don't understand why a lot people still playing WoW. Is so overrated.
"Herp the derp" Fuck me dead, the early 2000s just found me on bebo and penguin of doom'd me in the nose.
Holds up spork.
@@JoshStrifeHayes I just vomited in comic sans all over Salad Fingers, Magical Trevor and Madness Combat.
*touching corner of my eye*
what's this?
A tear drop?
Why do I feel this weird feeling I have not felt in almost a decade?
Yeah this entire game is very much stuck in the 2000s. We moved out of that phase for a reason.
@@JoshStrifeHayes ah good I needed smth for these waffles
Dragonfable is a game I've replayed at least 5 times through the main stories because of the amount of humor
Take a quest with the paladin artix. You're supposed to sneak into an undead lair disguised as undead. When you are stopped by the gatekeeper for not looking undead, your verbal defense is 'magic' to which the gatekeeper just says "hmm checks out"
This goes on for a while, but at the same time Paladin Artix has his urge to vanquish evil rising constantly, so as soon as you convince the gatemaster to let you in, Artix attacks, blowing your cover
Another example is the book 1 antagonist, Sepulcher, who hatches a dragon opposing your own, turning it into a skeleton and calling it 'Fluffy'
It's perfect storytelling, perfect mix of humor and indeed deep story. I'll revisit it again at some point.
I remember playing AQW with similar plot? You are meant to sneak into area with undead. To make that disguise you need to kill some undead and collect their bone. Then someone make the disguise for you. However instead of disguosed like a real bone, your disguise is a grocery bag with a badly drawn skull and you wear it like a hat. Damn artix has got one of the best joke for giggles.
My favourite memory was in MechQuest, when you had to infiltrate a group of werewolves. They give you the worst wolf costume possible and a massive mic they use for movies to record their conversations and everyone just flies with it.
I also remember that part of the quest with Artix where you told him if he "needs a hand" and then one undead enemy just literally throws it's hand at you.
Loved AQW as a middle schooler. Sad to see the devs haven’t gone full throttle on this version of the game . Has potential to be a fun alternative to the more serious MMOs
Ouch you missed something HUGE on Brutalcorn: after he dies, a teleport appears where he was standing to let you leave. If you're not directly on that spot, you don't instantly port out, and he'll actually respawn after a minute or whatever, and he does in fact have drops (and an achievement for killing him a bunch of times). You just didn't get anything cause you got booted due to standing on spot the teleporter spawned into. So the problem there is not that there are no drops, the problem is that the teleporter can spawn on top of your character and instantly teleport you out, instead of having say 3 different possible locations and coding to ensure it doesn't spawn on a person... also yeah more fanfare for his demise would be nice.
Easy fix for that. Build a scripted teleporter in the corner of the arena that only appears when the boss is dead.
I'd honestly say that the devs missed something huge there... 😅
Yeah, devs missed something HUGE on Brutalcorn.
The Sword in the Stone gets even better, you can use it... as a mace. You get a sword that's stabbed in a chunk of stone and it's classified as a hammer weapon, cos you swing the stone at monsters.
Castlevania did it first
@@hikikomoron You sure about that?
You can get it at aqw too in greengaurd forest east of battleon
Can someone tell me more
about Artix?
Whats their best game?
And more importantly: Whats their
funniest game/product??
Tell me, tell me.
@@slevinchannel7589 dragonfable by far is their best series although older , aqw is also their current popular mmorpg though most that plays it are long time players with strong nostalgia. Aq3d is their latest mmorpg that is available on steam
Damn...so much nostalgia...thanks for reminding me about Artix Games!
Indeed their random wacky adventures filled with dry and insane humor were pefect for 12 year old me stuck with a dial-up internet connection. You could connect once a month to DragonFable to experience the new upate and have assured fun! Never knew they went into 3D or were still in business, but seems I should revisit their old flash games and finally spend some money on them ^^
Thats exactly what i did. Played DF after many years and i finally finally bought a dragon amulet. Best idea ever, it was worth every dolar and last forever lol
I went back about a year ago and still mess around in it. It holds up surprisingly well, perhaps some of the best of the flash era.
I think the idea of a magical transformation into a travel form is better than pulling mounts out of your magic mount pocket
oh this one is gonna hurt, on an objective level this game has a lot of issues and isnt anywhere near completion since its missing whats considered to be very basic mmo elements but its THE game i keep coming back to since the social element/community, simplicity and artstyle really appeal to me
i have no nostalgia for AQW either since i didnt play it as a kid, i just needed a game that could run on my old shitty laptop and this was it :) theres so much this game can do to improve and since its, as far as i know anyway, not even considered released technically i hope things improve in the future.... im too big of a fan of equipping different items for both stats and cosmetics to drop it!
@@neroaction I cannot find any person that I can relate 2 right now more than you hahaha
Honestly, I played this game back in highschool because I was bored as hell,but I eventually developed a likeness for it due to the similiar reasons as yours: It was free to play, had a awesome community, rad artstyle, humor, and the fact that it isn't performance heavy.
Artstyle is exactly why I keep returning to hearthstone. The ladder mode isnt fun, the side content is inconsistent and the game is heavily pay to win.
The artstyle and sound design are very addicting
@@neroaction Can someone tell me more
about Artix?
Whats their best game?
And more importantly: Whats their
funniest game/product??
Tell me, tell me.
Brutalcorn drops an item, you were just standing on the exit portal as you defeated him; they shouldn't have put the portal in the center!
The item with .1% drop rate so I doubt he got the drop anyway
The issue is they should ask you “Do you really want to Leave? Yes or No” not force kick you out the second you touch the beam that spawns right in the middle of the fight. He drops 2 weapons so he would have likely appreciated this encounter a lot more.
Exactly, happend to me as well and confused me.
Can someone tell me more
about Artix?
Whats their best game?
And more importantly: Whats their
funniest game/product??
Tell me, tell me.
@@slevinchannel7589 Most popular game right now would be aqworlds, but the most accessable and more up to date version of it would be aq3d. It's also probably the funniest but its hard to say. Dragonfable has the best story but its not multiplayer. If you like 3d mmos, try aq3d. If you like 2d mmos, try aqw.
After watching this video I downloaded it at about midnight on mobile while laying in bed in the middle of the night as my spouse slept. I just finished playing, and it's currently 3am. Suffice to say I had fun. 😄 I never would have known this simple albeit fun little MMO existed if not for this channel, so thanks.👍
Once I installed it I rolled a Warrior. At first the controls confused me since I am used to playing MMOs on PC. However, once I got the hang of the mobile controls I had a lot of fun playing. It's not the most sophisticated MMO, but I think thats why I enjoyed it so much. I am guessing I can do crossplay with my PC and I probably will since I brought the premium Guardian thingy to keep playing when I finished the tutorial.
It's the kind of game I will likely enjoy in small bursts, in that regard the fact you can play it on mobile is certainly a plus. Just me though, but as a mobile MMO at very least it's quite enjoyable imho.
This game is all about grind I've played since release on mobile and was max level with all class till the more recent expansion sandseas I love this game but the down side is, all the early areas tend to be really low populated because all the content is moved to the recent expansion and that goes for every expansion that releases. I grinded two weeks to make at the time the best weapon in game and it was a staff that took 666 materials of 3 different mats to make. After making it about a month later the next area was released in the story line making my weapon irrelevant. That's the biggest complaint for me. If you see people in the earlier areas they are most likely farming skins as some weapons look sick af but their stats are garbage as you would need to play the most recent area to even have competitive gear. The PVP I'm this game is horrendous would not recommend and virtually nobody plays or bothers with it. There is no real healing classes aside from two classes have a healing power but that's it.
@@preston6018 The biggest trouble I had when playing the game was the lack of reason to play in non-current zones. I fell in love with the volcano zones and the dragonslayers, once I maxed out the class I really wanted to get some of the weapons and armors from the (seemingly)super cool boss fights and dungeons in the area, but there's no way whatsoever to defeat them solo, and no one's frequenting those instanced zones!
Definitely a really fun and cool game, but I think they need to give some love to those earlier zones and make them more solo friendly since there's not much of a reason to go back to them stat-wise.
Though it'd be really cool if certain dungeons & boss fights where labelled as "End Game" and the armor/weapons you get from them would always be the level you needed, so endgame players would have a greater variety of content to run.
I've played adventure quest so much when I was younger. It was beautiful and simple. They owned the 2D space and made it their own way. I wish them well in 3D, they can do it with enough devotion.
Can I just say how perfect it is that the random dungeon finder paired Ebony Darkness Dementia Raven with Holy Satan?
Now that's a good reference.
@@henriquefinger935 Fang you very much.
I'm amazed adventure quest is still a thing. I would play this game in high-school in 2002 instead of doing school work.
Yea I remember playing tis.
Can someone tell me more
about Artix?
Whats their best game?
And more importantly: Whats their
funniest game/product??
Tell me, tell me.
@@slevinchannel7589 sorry couldn't remember kuz I haven't play tis game in a long long long time.
@@slevinchannel7589 it DragonFable that one is the best game
@@slevinchannel7589 Best game is Adventure Quest Worlds. Funniest game is Moglin Punting.
I've watched and paid attention to the Artix team for a while when I was still active playing their games. They were always inspired by WoW (which shows) and their games were an homage to the fun they had with that particular title, so seeing them make the transition to 3D honestly made me feel proud in a way. They finally made the step up from simple flash game makers with in-jokes to actually taking their cool world and making it a 3D MMO space.
Agree. I don't knoe if that's the case but it gives you a feel as it was made by a bunch of friends trying to have fun. That or it's actually a bunch of slaves asking for help haha
The way I've always seen these games from Artix: "They don't take their game seriously, so you don't have to."
I just see their games as some quick little fun moments, then bail. They seem more for a good laugh every now and then.
Besides Dragonfable.. It was just as carefree and lighthearted as the others at first but overtime the story took some on some dark and serious undertones. We've seen NPC'S who've been with us from the literal beginning die while being made to feel all but helpless as we do our best to fight against each and every threat but still can't prevent some of the NPC'S we've grown closest to over the years from dying in the end. With Dragonfable I feel like I literally never know which character will be killed off next or which city or town will be completely destroyed (because both of these things has happened more than once). I play Dragonfable to take part in the story to and see what will continue to take place within the world whereas with the others it's like I was just playing to kill time. Dragonfable is the only AE game that seemed to have actually grown up and mature with it's player base. I still play Dragonfable to this day just to see how the main storyline will continue to develop but the others are all either too childish or just not serious enough for me. Book one was lighthearted and carefree but Books 2-3 where when things actually started to take on a more serious feeling or approach. Especially book 3.
Some of the humor actually comes from the pathetic nature in which they run their older games , constant excuses for why this or that, and an evergrowing reliance on pay content as more and more people bail for better professionalism
@@bradysimmons84 k, cry about it
@@Plsrateeight Why, yes..In fact, that *is* a perfect example of their mind set. Thank you. That was perfect.
@@bradysimmons84 You're welcome.
I'd like to point out that Artix Games doesn't really abandon (most) of the games which you are claiming that they do. Adventure Quest, Dragon Fable, Mech Quest, all get updates to this day. Disregarding the quality of the games, this dedication is impressive, I think.
I don’t think mechquest has had an update for about 5 years
@@ciaran616 I'm not super sure, I know AE stopped weekly updates after the game was finished, but since then they have worked on and added events. They could have stopped that at this point, in which case they just automate when events play based on date.
@@drahsid2 yes while they still update them when was the last time you seen the AE team talk about anything not Aq3d
Yeah that was pretty disingenuous... You can literally check their design notes right now and see that most of their big titles are updated weekly to this day. And the other games mentioned are like, mobile games or designed as minigames on purpose, so no one’s really expecting updates from them.
Yeah, I have to admit the fact AQ and Dragon Fable still get updated is freaking dedication. I still go back and play Dragon dable just because its on of those games you can just spend time doing quests on.
"It never took itself seriously"
Me remembering the Ashfall saga...."well..."
And also the later Dragonfable sagas, oh boy. Some of their games have great mature writing, despite being rated PG
TB to dragonfable murdered a fan favorite character because the player base lost a war.
rip galanoth
@@GravityAP Yeah... That still hurts until this day. But man, the playerbase redeemed themselves in the next war. They've cleared it so fast the boss wasn't finished yet. Also, the final war of that Saga.
@@GravityAP Not... exactly.
We later found out there wasn't actually a major difference in outcome. Which isn't bad because honestly, punishing a playerbase for not playing a game enough is... bad.
I swear, Alina is the sweetest person to ever be in a game dev company. I wish for her legend to be told for generations to come
I wish your being sarcastic xD
@@ranceisseps *You’re 🤓
@@ranceisseps i really hope it's sarcasm
@@ranceisseps @VincentdelaCruz-um7ft Why?
Are you sure about that?
I love that you balance the goods and bads. It's constructive criticism the way it's supposed to be. Personally this video made me want to try this game to see if it'll scratch an itch left behind from some older games that got shut down.
Man Adventure Quest was awesome back in the day! Finding that elemental loadout against the enemies was fun.
If I find out 'Frogzards' are frog wizards, I'm gonna flog myself.
Frogzard are just Frog Dinosaurs
frogs are just stands for frog lizard but if you played aventure quest they have a lot of different versions one of which is in fact a wizard and one of which has wings there is also a TARDIS one
@@starterking Oh...
Well LIZARD never came into my mind.
Thanks for clarifying it. :D
Wouldn't frog wizards look cool though? Like the one in South Park.
As an old AQ fan, they are not. They're weird gators with legs
That said I'm pretty sure there was an old boss that was a wizard frogzard or something in one of their games
As someone who learned about DragonFable thanks to my older cousins, and absolutely loved it, it sort of saddens me to see their other games being talked about poorly. I never knew about this game's existence, but I think if I had heard I might have given it a try those years ago
Artix has really improved on this game recently. I think your review ended up as feedback and had a positive impact!
I was thinking about getting into the game, what do you mean by that?
@@SamTrollazo They added pvp with rewards , added a healer class , max level increased with a new map to play through and added multiple other smaller minigames like ''legion assault'' (good vs bad) they are going to add 2 more classes and more , its all on the website
@@MrDion023 but nothing you've listed fixes anything from this video..
@@duhotatoday3277 LMAO
did they add an actual functional map yet?
I knew this was serious when he commented about the curser......hes going DEEP.
Just realized he might be the reason they added a cursor for pc last week.
@@OverseerXIII they added in last week?
@@DragonSlayer.77 i think they added it in the game plan along with the next stories etc.
Dude you have insane production value and work ethic for a channel of your size. The pace you're releasing videos at is ridiculous for the amount of work put into each one. Keep it up!
Cheers Kyle, glad you're enjoying the stuff. Im trying my best to keep up with 2 videos a week and a stream on saturday.
I might miss a day or two but I'm really trying to stick to it :)
@@JoshStrifeHayes , If you keep this up I think there is a good chance your channel will explode. Your subscribe count is ticking upwards steadily and when you pass the threshold things can go very fast.
@@hermanspaerman3490 Well, that happened.
This MMO game is all about both sense of humor and fashionable clothing.
Adventure Quest will always hold one of my favorite memories when I was a kid playing it. I remember one of the quests would take you between a war for Vampires and Werewolves.
They were both fairly cool and even allowed you to turn into your selected faction if you wanted to by equipping the armor. However, if you say… wanted the best of both worlds, you could become a werepyre, which just because it was super edgy was always my favorite.
Also yes I’m commenting on a 2 year old video, I live in the past.
And then they went beyond that with the Dracopyre,.
@@bricecube320 looks like I’m getting back on adventure quest to experience that! Thank you for telling me.
To be honest I expected this to be so so much worse than it is, and I'm so glad they kept they're funny dialog and jokes, it was something that felt unique to their games
It took me most of the video to realize that I played AdventureQuest when I was like... 9. I genuinely enjoyed it a lot at the time.
i loved it and epic dual
Ah yes, the classic vampire vs werewolf wars they had, and then they added the werepyres and then the drakowerepyres, completely derailing the whole thing.
25:00 The other thing about the box joke is that they made exactly the same joke in Dragonfable, in the dragon egg hunt. The Sneevils stole the chest the dragon egg was in, but because they were only interested in it because it was a cool-looking box, they immediately dumped its contents out, so you had to go locate it. And part of the joke with that is that this was content released over a period of *months,* so you were constantly like. On the *edge* of finding this chest, only for some bizarre and absurd Artix thing to happen that put you one step back. Every step along the way felt like an escalation, so while for some people I imagine it was frustrating, on a level it was also exciting to just see what they were going to pull out next.
And there's also the fact that when the egg was finally ready to hatch, the way they announced it was by changing the little log-in news blurb to "zOmg! You should talk to Twilly!"
Here it's just sorta. "Haha, Sneevils only want the box, the thing you want is directly below you."
idk; doesn't feel like it's got quite the same pull to it.
14:38 Ah yes. The pay to progress thing. I remember it with mirthful fondness as how back in the day, my parents wouldnt let me get any of that. Now that I am older, I see why.
This criticisms are actually great since they are a small team. They keep improving and changing. The problem with AQ3D is the beginning of the game is not great, but when you come to higher level, so many good shit happens.
Even though they've remastered these early areas about 3 times now rip
It's actually other way around
@@jamiewhichelo9983 lol true! I actually like the 1st one that they remastered. They should have stayed it in there.
@@jaszthebest I mean the Noxus Dungeon had Great Mechanics. You think that heartwood has better ones?
@@jamiewhichelo9983 What i am trying to say is that the journey is more interesting than the destination, going through all that story line, specially ashfall compared to farming super rare stuff and duel when maxed
Community: Can we get World of Warcraft?
Artix Entertainment: No, we have World of Warcraft at home
World of Warcraft at home:
Pretty accurate
This doesn't say a whole lot since WoW is trash to begin with.
@@TwizzElishus lol you dont even play it
@@mavielor7394 Not anymore, no. Did from late BC to late Legion though.
@@TwizzElishus
You can have your opinion but straight up calling wow trash with no context is stupid
that present at 32:12 casually rolling past you in the middle of a fight followed by a little pumpkin actually made me laugh out loud
Unfortunately it's one year later, artix entertainment hasn't made any real progress with this project, they themselves state within the game (several times in different ways) that this game was actually released 20 YEARS ago. They also claim it's been receiving weekly updates from the time it was launched until now. And yet it's in almost exactly the same state that it was in during the recording of this video. I don't foresee any progress by this developer any time soon.
The Moglin standing next to D-Piddy named Wilson has his face pained like the iconic volleyball.
His NPC title is Cast Away
i love how that's a reference with so many layers to it because D Piddy is famous for his Deadpool cosplays, and deadpool's real name is wade wilson, and its also a convention joke. also just the fact they slipped him into the game is kinda fun
So I love your reviews and critiques, they're always a pleasure to watch. That being said, I actually disagree with the take of telling the player every small detail they need to know for gameplay explicitly. I'm referring to around the 6 minute mark where the boss has indicators telling you where he'll attack, but you're never directly told "red place bad". I think this was a very clever and intuitive gameplay design to let players learn on their own how combat here worked, and it does so in a way that lets the player get to learn through experience rather than a hand-hold, which imo would belittle the learning experience.
I think there is a lot of power in making your systems learnable without info dumping a ton of text to explain all of those systems. This is, of course, a very simple example, but I think scales appreciably to many aspects of games overall, not just MMO's.
The key concept and underlying belief I have here is that most players aren't entirely idiotic and, even if new to games, can draw upon real world experience and contextual clues to work out simpler mechanics like "oh, I'm fighting this big scary skeleton, but he hasn't attacked me yet. I should probably get away from that big red box that's filling up where I am."
Otherwise, stellar video as always. Cheers!
Honestly you're probably right, sometimes i just look for stuff to nitpick.
Def agree. That's how bosses work in ffxiv and its always cool that boss mechanics are something you learn rather than told by some npc in the sidelines.
@@renno2679 only bs with FFXIV is the purple and blue indicators from ARR, which are first encountered by most players in required dungeons with no teaching moments... But the optional dungeon cutter's cry teaches it (By which, I mean the penalty in cutter's cry isn't bad for failing, and it pops up a telegrah of "Oh, boss is doing something tricky!" Message... I think the first required dungeon to use the purple blue mechanic is keeper of the lake, which will wipe the party.)
One thing worth mentioning about this: a colorblind friend told me once that he couldn't see the red markers in FF14, but once his friend pointed out that the monster's animation was so clear that he could use that as a guide instead, he finally stopped struggling so much against the raid boss. Sometimes the red marker really isn't enough.
I actually disagree, due to a wholly different game
The sheer number of times that I've seen people run through the tutorial for Warframe, get to the chasm where 'Jump again in the air to do a double jump!' pops up bold as brass at the top of the screen... and then they just single jump and plop down into the pit.
_And then they poof back to the top of the chasm, get the same double jump prompt, single-jump AGAIN and then wonder what they're doing wrong_
I have no faith left in the games-literacy of the average new player in any given franchise. Honestly, you can't even expect people to read anymore - it's like preschools just stopped teaching it.
Gotta say as someone who occasionally plays this still, it's improved a tonne. Id suggest a re-review
yes i agree
its trash
@kingchengge Funny timing actually, I hadn't played since the previously level cap was 35 and just launched today and was enjoying it. I'm curious what you think is bad about it?
@@jackmarshall883 You actually don't deserve a reply but I still will do.
If you think this game is by any standards anywhere REMOTELY close to 2023 gaming standards then you don't deserve to be playing any other games than this for the rest of your life.
The gameplay is garbage, the graphics are bad, the combat is horrible, its just what AQW was but worse - a dress up game that is grindy and not enjoyable at all.
What is GOOD about it? nothing.
There are hundreds if not thousands of games that do what this game does, better.
If it was 2014, yes then this game would be decent. but even then it would be outshined by countless games.
MMOs better than this:
WoW, FFXIV, Lost Ark, BDO, Elder Scrolls online, Guild Wars 2, Albion Online, SWTOR, new World, TERA, MapleStory, Guild Wars, etcc....
There is NOTHING that this game has, and will ever have to ever compete even slightly.
Even for a mobile game, its trash. If you don't own a PC or Laptop, you can justify ever playing this, but even that I'd rather play Legends of Runeterra or any card game and would gain way more enjoyment than playing this joke of a game.
Also, even comparing this game to the above listed, is simply a joke as this game is not even 5% of all those games. Even a bad p2w game is miles and miles better.
Maybe buy a PC/Laptop and start playing some real games and come by again.
Even League of Legends which is not a mmorpg but it is a game.
It takes skill, and even the games above take some skill, time and expetise and they are much much more enjoyable objectively.
AQ3D is just unfun, unskilled trash.
5:50 I think you're honestly wrong here. It's better for the player to learn by getting hit by the red area rather than a box that says "HEY IDIOT, THE RED AREA IS BAD"
I remember playing Adventure Quest in the school library during recess, back when even the most advanced sprites looked like they were drawn in MS Paint. And it was fun. I liked the humor. I liked the story. I liked the world and exploring the expanding lore. I enjoyed how most of the time it felt like I was just doing a bunch of sidequests completely divorced from the main plot, because the fact that not all the issues of the world were connected made it feel bigger and more alive.
Sadly, what was the biggest strength of the 2D games seems to be this game's greatest weakness. Doing a short sidequest between classes worked in its 2D format, but that's not fun in an MMO.
DragonFable is still good though.
So many memories
In fact, it's gotten even better.
it actually hot better imo, they actually got serious for a PG game , the Book 3: The End of Magic storylines like the Tomix Saga was sad af, the Calamity storyline was epic, the Thorns Storyline was actually brutal af too and (spoilers)
they literally killed a fan favourite character because the players werent fast enough and lost a war
Dude, dragonfable was like the first rpg I played on pc ever
I love the fact that this is the most popular comment
This was brilliantly, kindly, and respectfully done. You truly are a master of the English language, of games, and gamer psychology. Fantastic!
Fun fact; met my wife on the AQ Forums. Good memories of Battleon Games, they're just silly and fun.
What I love the most is your nickname in game, that Harry Potter fanfiction still haunts me to this day.
***Happy Internet historian noises
AQ3d is one of those games thats so frustrating to me. It has so much charm and what it does right, it does really right. Like Josh said though, its missing things to make it a solid MMO but its an amazing side game to play if you're waiting for content patches or an expansion in your main game.
Yes I played this a lot while waiting for WoW Shadowlands and I still log on daily just to do daily tasks.
@@trevrah Wait till u see cringe convo in Yulgar 😂
It can be a good game, but it needs a lot of quality of life changes to begin with.
Imo it's the best mobile MMO. but I wouldn't play it on PC as there's so many more better choices
@@tori9365 That's just it. This game works best as a mobile game but as a PC game...nope. But I heard this is a browser game so there's nothing to download...maybe?
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I am been fan of Artix entertainment since original aq , this game is perhaps one of the most favorite MMO I have ever played 1. The fast accessibility to hop on to this game is awesome , 2. You got total of 14 classes you can automatically switch at anytime , 3. The optimization of phone to PC is awesome , 4. Graphics and scenery is beautiful , 5. Cosmetic design and other gear look the best compared to any other game , 6. The community for AQ3D is a very positive and supportive for all players more then I can say to other MMO, 7. AQ3D have always get weekly updates so the player can always have something to do and there only getting better. The downfall for this game is no quest book or log to know where you stand in this game, right now I am tier gold max player and I don’t know what quest is what to complete because they don’t tell you what you have complete so far , each class goes up to 100 going to lvl 50 to 100 is pointless makes no benefit to stats or your account this might take you 200 hours worth to get a legendary title which bunch of lame text on the top, at times they do release some repeated useless content they no one cares about on some weeks but past 4 months they been doing a good job.
A silly casual 3D mmo with a multi class system is exactly what I’ve been looking for in an mmo. I’m totally going to give this game a try. Great video, btw 👍
Thanks man. It's definately fun to play, there is a charm there and if you're after something light hearted, this is it.
have fun dude game is actually getting better and better the only problem is that their progress is really slow... been a problem since 2018
I've always loved Artix. They are such a unique game company. Very unique style and sense of humor and they've always worked very closely with the community.
Artix Entertainment you mean, Artix the person is why the company is in the state it's in.
Your point at 15:25 is EXACTLY why as a kid I loved AQ Worlds. Something new every week. Short but fun, memorable and easy to digest stories.
One thing I will say about Adventure Quest and that is I really dig the designs. I have always enjoyed Artix art and I feel it really translated well into the game.
didn't watch all but you made some good points from what I saw. Couple things though, a mouse cursor change is coming soon, The brutalcorn fight doesnt end the way you showed actually. You were too close to the exit when brutalcorn was dropped so ran through exit right at the death, so you missed his drops. He has several random drops. A "are you sure you wish to leave" button should be added there, like the other challenges have.
For the rune animation at the beginning, there was some snow blocking part of rune (this happens during frostval).
Oh look! The number one bootlicker of AQ3D developers. Don't listen to this guy if you want unbiased review of the game.
@@rolandgalicio You clearly don't follow my social media, do you? lol. When there are major flaws with the game, I address em. Crying about things don't get them changed, there are proper ways to handle it.
Keep going raven. You're doing good, they won't understand what they haven't fully experienced anyway.
Appreciate your videos and tournaments on AQ3D!
@@rolandgalicio, biased? Geez, people like you and this guy who posted the video are like peeps who are fond of stating an opinion without doing thorough experience in a particular context, well, specifically AQ3D. It's like cherry-picking stuff from books and saying your "opinion" when in fact you haven't dwelled upon their components. Note, not stating the WHOLE component but at least do further experience to make your so-called opinions coherent and valid.
PS: I'm both a player of AQW and AQ3D. Tbh, AQW these days are much worst unlike the latter. No after story of Drakath, if you think there is, that's the real lackluster right there. Unnecessary events that made the game look like for giggles only. The essence of farming faded. In short, AQW is already dead since 2013. A lot of things changed but in a terrible way. :)
It has its charm, played whole 6 months, almost daily, for more than 5 hours per session. But it ran out of content, only thing that made me stay was the awesome community, but that got old after some months too. Forever an AE fan, but this video is correct about its features.
22:22
Missed opportunity by the devs to give that snowman a firebreath attack =P
I think an issue with this game is that it's still very very much basically a beta and they're trying to do 100 cool things all at the same time but they're all unfinished because they can't seem to focus on one thing at a time. Though it's been a year now since this video and I'm sure things have gotten a bit better.
It's all about the cosmetics. Making sets/cosplays/weird shit and waiting for the next level cap and story progress. That's the unfortunate reality of it all. You hit a point relatively early where you realize it's all vanity and flair as opposed to any meaningful gameplay
Thats true, and its a shame because in the 2d games the artwork is amazing, but here its just kinda, meh
@@JoshStrifeHayes Exactly - the large polygon size and stretched textures juxtaposed to the higher polygon count refined armours/creatures makes for a disgusting overall apparence. With jarring animations, It's hard to see why they ever wanted to make the jump from 2D to 3D when they worked so much better in the former.
@Sonic Mobian yeah not an excuse when you can hire professionals who work in these fields. Did they just get their 2d artist to model in 3D? Or did they hire bad 3D artist? We’re not talking about a friend learning 3D modelling, we are talking about a company that makes enough money to fuel the owners mansion. Plus we leave in a time where technology is much more advanced - I mean WoW Classic looks a lot nicer of an overall presentation and that game was made in 2004.
@Sonic Mobian That doesn't excuse it, this game is just pure laziness. Speaking as someone who was originally excited at the concept of AQ3D, it was a pretty huge let down within the first year. This company just seems to consistently drop the ball again and again.
@@readifdumb They had their 2d artists move into 3d from what I understand. Or at least They had their 2d artists learn how to make layouts that their animators could wrap around their models.
AE is milking AQWorlds to continue with AQ3D. Had AQ3D been released in 2010 era, it might have a chance.
That's the frustrating thing about AQ3D. This feels like a game meant for the early 2000's. If it came out way then maybe this game would be really popular.
@@JuwanBuchanan agreed
Damn. Adventure Quest Worlds was my childhoods. I remember when Nulgath was still called Miltonius and I experienced gambling in a game for the first time.
I love this video series because it's like opening a time capsule of games I used to be really into. I never played Adventure Quest 3D, but I played probably too much DragonFable and dabbled briefly in AQ Worlds.
Makes me sad to see that you say hi to the randos and they don't say hi back.
Omg anyone else remember how tedious fights could be in their 2d games? There were sections that made you fight 100 waves of 2-3 high level enemies with limited resources and it would take s long time provided you could even fight them successfully.
I remember I used to play the original browser based Adventure Quest with my niece that was like 7 or 8 at the time and she used to love watching me mess around with it, I never really thought about it as more than just a time sink for a couple hours on a Tuesday morning when WoW was down for maintenance.
Just one thing I want to point out, a lot of the stuff you said was an unfinished project were merely mini games. Though yeah, ever since MechQuest they've been slightly throw ideas at the wall and see what sticks.
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As for what AQ3D is I think it was as much them hedging their bets against the Flashpocalypse, let alone I feel its niche is meant to be an mmo you can also play on mobile. Also you pretty much nailed it they always sold themselves more on the lunch break style of gameplay where you didn't have to have long play sessions.
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I feel like you likely miss that they know their not a direct competitor with a main line MMO, but something more casual and indie, though overall Artix Entertainment has done well enough.
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Also I'd put the age for Artix games at more teen than kids game.
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While I get its not an excuse for the music (especially since they have done some good scores in the past) its also been a highly acceptable thing that Artix Entertainment games are something you play with your own tunes.
I think what Artix really nailed well was the grinding mechanic. It is tedious but satisfying when you accomplish it. and the cosmetics is a BANGER
I just wish that grinding in 3d is as rewarding as in aqw. Sure you can flex rare cosmetics in yulgar's inn but It's not like everyone will always look at your character anyway.
Spent 2 weeks to farm mats for the at the time best weapon in the game for it to be useless and irrelevant the next expansion of the story it was disheartening but this game is litterally just about grinding
aq3d: literally aqw mechanics, but 3d
This game, despite its shortcomings, actually looks fantastic.
This is such a great game, zero p2w, easy to play, all items are avaliable for f2p.
Not quite but you are right for no p2w, there are some paid items for upgraded accs but they aren't much better than what takes a small amount of grinding
I remember in aq world's there was this npc who was telling stories to kids in yulgar inn and it took me to this giant ant adventure and it was so cool I thought aq3d would be more of that but I guess the direction of the game changed mid way
Can someone tell me more
about Artix?
Whats their best game?
And more importantly: Whats their
funniest game/product??
Tell me, tell me.
@@slevinchannel7589 from nostalgia AQW had the most adventure.
ebony darkness dementia ravenwave....I hate how much I love that you used that.
Been playing for a month and loving the game so far, as a returning AQ, AQW and DF player, but I have some major gripes: 1) Why should I grind for numbers in the order of the THOUSANDS for some unrewarding stuff (cosmetics, sub-par weapons used only as cosmetics, travel forms, etc.)?! Hundreds would have been already mental, but actual thousands and tens of thousands?! Bloody hell. 2) The scaling is beyond me, I had to go and farm stuff out and forward of the natural progression of the main saga to actually get a slight fighting chance with the content, which drops weaker stuff and is actually scaled lower than your level...Artix, how and why?
You know, the sad thing is I think I came up with a way that apple tree quest could have worked perfectly by relying on their witty writing. Start off by telling the player they can find an apple from the apple tree in apple Grove just down apple path (the "convenient" naming joke was a thing I remember them doing alot) andonce you'rethere, ratherthan havea quest arrowpointing youto where to go, instead, it's a question mark. As the player checks trees, have them all bearing increasingly bizarre fruits. Then have one final tree that has apples, but surprise, it's alive and angry, so you bossfight, then when you beat it, it's loot drops are all apples (with a cheeky line of flavor text about loot drops that I'm not being paid so I won't try to work out). Like that feels perfectly in their style of humor, and it took so little to come up with!
"The quests in Adventure quest 3D are repetitive you just kill kill click click"
Meanwhile WoW players: o_o
Runescape.
Literally every mmo >->
"I want a gun!" Immediately, I was like oh no...
Great Episode, as always, Josh.
Can you cover Project Gorgon next? :)
Spent a lot of time in this one, and i think it will fit the series :)
I remember playing the older aq, dq, and mq. Those were some interesting games at the time. They probably haven't aged well and I vaguely recall getting stuck at a point where it felt I needed to pay that wasn't that far. Being a middle schooler at the time that wasn't happening lol
They really should have stuck to their guns with the 2D versions, yes it's outdated but it's much MUCH easier to accept and enjoy a decent 2D sidescroller MMO than a meh 3D one. I poured hundreds of hours into AQWorlds and their other properties like MechQuest and EpicDuel. Honestly, AQWorlds is still pretty okay by today's standards, considering how downhill MMOs have gone. I wouldn't touch their other games tho, MQ and ED were a bit p2w in the past and they certainly are nowadays.
MQ is straight up dead. They teased the next storyline after the universal reset but then it just stopped. As for ED I'm not sure it even took off to begin with.
@@rafabuda0 Mechquest was meant to end. The universal reset lead up to Dragonfable which takes place after Mechquest. Mechquest was straight up created to be a presequel for it. It was intentional.
@@JuwanBuchanan I know it is. But then they announced a new arc and added a single mission called "After the Reset" that introduced a new main antagonist and enemy faction. Which they then proceded to not do anything with.
This game is way better than yall act like it is or isnt. Its so much better than the og game, like in every way. This is a case of nostalgia fueling yall. Dont get me wrong i like the og one aswell but the games trash fam, im not blind to it sucking. Its a suck i really enjoy but fam, the og sucks it. This game is just polished and well done, its not great game either, again im not blind but this game has so much more going for it. Take them blinders off fam, come down to reality, its quite nice out here.
@@jonathansoko1085 your point is weak. this is really all about context. you are comparing 2d og aq, which is a solo rpg and is like 15 yrs old, with aq 3d, an mmo from 2016. Whether or not 3d is better than og is irrelevant, because they are not competing with each other. What you should be comparing is aq 3d with other mmo’s on the market, in which case you’ll see that aq 3d is a mediocre 3d fantasy mmo in todays market while og aq was a stellar 2d flash game in the mid to late 2000’s.
*_Maybe not good on PC, but it’s hands down the best MMO on mobile._*
For unique i guess yes. But the story, its a no for me.
For mobile its gotta be toram or ragnarok for me.
@@sheepjin5985 *_Do those have “auto play”?_*
Best mmo in 2021
Toram fortunately doesn't have have auto-play
I actually like the beginning of this game. It explains how we are able to respawn and it was hilarious to get smacked around cartoon-style. Really shows that is what they are really good at.
I tried to play adventure quest again (not the MMO, the oldschool one) after a 15 year break. In the first 10 minutes, before I was even level 2, I was offered to buy shit with real money like 4 times. In fact, on the first monster i defeated, I got the option to keep the item he dropped temporarily for free or keep it permanently if I pay RL money. Instantly deleted it. Was a massive turnoff.
The Artix style of humour worked for me when I was 12. Reading this stuff now... I don't think I could describe it as 'charming'.
Dragonfable humor definitely isn't funny anymore.
@@devilmaygame8497 are we talking about dragonfable?
Yes
@@devilmaygame8497 Dragonfable rarely tries to be funny anymore. They went with a lot more serious/dark of a tone with a ton of the arcs in Book 3 and it's for the better tbh.
I did notice that later on, but at first it was silly
I just like the simplicity of AE games, makes it easy for me since i don’t like RPG games because it’s usually way to much going on to know what to do and why.
I like the complexity of RPG's, make them unique tbh.
Ah, you've put into words what I couldn't! The identity thing. I remember being concerned about Risk of Rain 2 going 3D after the first game did so well on 2D.
I'm glad I was proven wrong, the second game is fun, but I still kinda fondly miss and remember RoR1's 2D style. :c
so… happy now?
@@nethertrain yes :)
I am a grown ass man and I am STILL a little bitter they dropped mechquest as quick as they did. Such a fun concept, such a cool game idea. I guess people don't want to make killer robot project cars...for some reason. I really love artix entertainment I really do. As a kid who felt uncomfortable asking for games I legit played these games all the time.
19:30 you actually accidentally exited the brutalcorn exit zone right after killing Brutalcorn. There WERE rewards, but you sadly left the area without realizing you were in the spot to do so.
New players probably do it all the time too. It's pretty bad that it's that easy to walk out on loot completely by accident without ever realizing. He seems pretty used to mmos and still misses something like that isn't good for the game.
Why is the load zone so close to where the fight happens in the first place.It should be a bit further away, players might not accidentally run out.
@@AcerKF Ok, but _why_ does the quest at the tavern ask you if you want to leave, and that one doesn't? That's some really inconsistent and shoddy design.
This really looks like it could be an excellent MMO with some polishing done to it
It looks like a budget WoW clone to me
@@JohnDoe-zh6cp i don’t think so
@@alexkazuma219 Really? Have you ever played WoW? Pretty much every aspect of the design is clearly inspired by it. Most modern MMOs are like that (for good reason) but they usually have their own quirks and mechanics to add to the formula.
@@JohnDoe-zh6cp yes you´re right
It’s actually a very good game. Is it the most complete game? No. But it does what it’s supposed to be very well.
I still have memories of the strange clunky sound effects from the early 2000's in Adventure Quest. Good times on the ol' school computers, and sneaking downstairs at night to play it on the laptop.
I remember the gothic rock band duo “One-Eyed Doll” being featured in this game (the 2D version of it atleast) and the boss was their lead singer, Kimberly. And if you defeat her and her band in combat, you get to dance and play in the band as a reward. You also got her outfit.
I've been playing this game and yeah, that's how it looks initially. I keep hearing "travel form this, travel form that" and even if i'm a guardian there's a bunch of them you can grind for.
I did a playthrough of the starting experience a few years ago, and it had some elements that I liked, but overall, I was a bit disappointed. A few things I found jarring back then: It was a beta, but the feedback I provided was often swatted aside with excuses about how "that was on purpose" (like when I suggested that the PC client should have keybindings for things like I being inventory, M being a map, etc. At the time, I was informed that this wouldn't be possible due to the game also shipping on mobile, but they eventually added most of these features anyway).
Another big issue I personally had with the game that you didn't mention, is that your inventory fills up really quickly. You can spend real money on a bigger inventory, but quest items are stored in your normal inventory, and if you want some sort of cosmetic set as well as an equipment set, you need to have 2 complete armor sets in your bag at all times. There's no character panel to store equipped items on, so it all just takes up space.
Been watching through a bunch of your old videos but I really connected with this one, since I was an alpha and beta tester of this game as well.
I feel like whenever people are talking about AE games the tone of all the other titles overshadows the current tone of Dragonfable. Dragonfable has literally killed off a lot of the NPC's we were closest to at the start of our journey as the hero of Lore. It's destroyed entire towns which resulted in a literal change of the games landscape on more than one occasion. At one point in time I didn't take the game seriously but that point is long gone after I've seen a number of my favorite NPC's literally be murderer right before my eyes. These days you literally never know what NPC might die or what city or town might be destroyed in Dragonfable. When it was first released it had a lighthearted and carefree tone to it but after the introduction of Book 2 and then later Book 3 it became way more serious. Comparing the current tone of Dragonfable to the tone of any other AE game besides maybe Epic Duel is like comparing the tone of DragonBall or One Piece to the tone of Tokyo Ghoul or Attack on Titan.
Woah I played this back in like 2016 and what you've shown in this video is VASTLY different to what I experienced, if i recall you started IN a battlefield and had to accompany the buff mascot guy to a castle, fighting skeletons on a path surrounded by carts and thing on fire lol