venezuelan grandma plays runescape like a job. dudes your age have lives and do things with themselves. theres no comparison. the basement dwellers who play OSRS like its a job blow grandma and most decent players out of the water, because they play the game like gamers and not people who are just trying to make money.
@John Smitty There are certainly always radicals of every persuasion, true. I think the center will ultimately hold, though. Neither radical left-wing nor radical right-wing policies tend to work out in the long term. Honestly a lot of the self-proclaimed socialists seem to me as though they're just using that reactionary-pushed definition of socialism more than anything. I guess that when people are told that positions they hold are actually just socialism for long enough that they start identifying as socialists? But at the end of the day it's their positions that matter. Even if someone with a center-left bent is somehow convinced they're a "socialist"... they're not going to suddenly start supporting the nationalization of all industry!
@Eve There is really no country that is socialist or capitalist. All countries governments are amalgamations of all the ideologies. But frankly in the US there are plenty of people who would call what Denmark has as socialism. Also the point remains, you can't just cherry pick bad places and blame it on the ideology. Venezuela collapsed due mainly to a bad monetary policy and an economy tied almost entirely to state oil production. Also the US is less arguably less capitalist than Denmark is socialist. The US has arguably the most interventionalist government in it's economy out of the rest of the free world. The idea that we have free markets is kind of silly. Without it massive government intervention our economy would have collapsed in the depression, the 80s, 2007, and again now in 2020. I think we'd do better if we talked about specific policy ideas than just ideological arguments that go nowhere and solve nothing.
@Dill Rogerz It's because America undermines any country that is socialist so they don't do well and thus male Americans realise it is a better system.
The Venezuelans formed a huge super clan that could lock down more worlds more reliably than all the previous fractured protection clans. This allowed the gp inflation to go through the roof and definitely moved Revanants up in priority
Could basically say it is, 2 groups of people turning to eachother.. Glad the venezuelans have stepped up their game, and it proofs that once the people get together, they will find out they are stronger then they actually believed... Together in unity they fought for their right instead of being ripped off
I'm a venezuelan and this is just too common knowledge here. People who play to feed themselves are seen as not lazy but courageous because of the amount of time they spend doing that everyday, which is usually far better than wasting your time doing nothing I respect them a lot
I've actually seen people talking about it outside of the OSRS community. It's maybe not worth waiting 15 years for George RR Martin to write a book on but definitely an interesting story.
Although the actions of gold farmers is damaging the economy, when you look at the human side of it and the reasons why Venezuelans do it.. I can’t help but sympathise. Just wish they had a way of earning a stable income and better way of life
Here's an idea: have Jagex set up a gold exchange specifically for venezuelans. They get their money and a probably more fair exchange rate and Jagex slays the hydra that is venezuelan gold farming.
@@alexisjosesenaalvarado1020 Yes but botters also have more power in WoW classic imo. They fly hack, noclip through walls and teleport around farming stuff super quick.
I have a powerful PC and played WoW and RuneScape since I was a kid. I quit WoW a few months back as it was a commitment when it came to raids or pvp. What really pisses me off is how they are re releasing expansions + their retail content sucks. Something about osrs that I love, it’s so easy to hop on and play. The community is much more laid back too.
This game saved my life. I played this game with my older cousin when I was 12 years old roughly till I was 15 - 16 I grew out of it and now at 28 I came back to get some nostalgia an I’ve been hooked back in. In a dark time in my life I turned to this game after 13 years of not playing only to come back to help save my life
Maybe not the most productive hobby you could’ve used as a life saver. Gym could save your life and save you from depression, so could martial arts, or getting into a career, or traveling or doing something worldly. Hoping on a game where you can totally dissociate with the real world and sink into fantasy land for tens of thousands of hours, is definetly NOT life saving. It’s deceptive in that you may feel happy when you’re playing it, but it is not a good thing to waste your life away on RuneScape. I’ve basically pissed away the past year thanks to retuning to my virtual garden of Eden after a multiple year long hiatus.
@@CoffeeSuccubus Dude, it's a game. Do you realize that farming gold is probably SAVING SOME PEOPLES' LIVES. Just have some sympathy and imagine yourself in the following situation: You're stuck in a country where you can work a normal job for amounts of money that will not put adequate food on the table for you and/or whatever family you have. Or...you can play a video game all day with specific routine to get gold and make adequate money to SURVIVE. Stop being blind to your privilege when people need to do this to survive in real life. Our game is not more important than other peoples' lives.
@@PeterT1 They're real people behind the screen. Imagine that you were forced to play the game 8+ hours a day to have food to eat and you see clowns online saying that you're not human. Get real.
I appreciate the fact that you approached this from both the Game-side, and the Human-side. And I think we should make a HUGE distinction between those who are physically sitting at their PC's farming gold, putting items & gold into the Economy at the rate a normal player would- and those who have tens to hundreds of Bot scripts running 24/7. In WoW Classic, the biggest issue is with BOTTERS who use fly/no clip hacks to farm vendor trash to put raw gold into the Economy 24/7... While the people who are physically farming items/consumables at the rate a normal player could- to sell on the AH to make gold- aren't recking the Economy in the same way that the Bot Farms are. They both kinda suck.. But Botters & Hackers are BY FAR the greatest threat to in-game economies, because they're putting far more gold into the Economy than any individual person ever could playing legitimately.
A lot of these major botfarms, Ironically enough. Are based in North America mainly, and Asia secondly(which are usually segregated in games anyway) When you see someone running 40 bots with their 10900K RTX3080, it's not some third world farmer. Statistically speaking it's an english speaking neckbeard and the hatred really is misguided.
Go to brutal black dragons and compare the amount of bots to Venezuelan gold farmers. Theres no comparison. Bots are good at pumping out cheap consumables. Items people really want are deflated by farmers.
"And I think we should make a HUGE distinction between..." Their muscles are atrophying either way. You think the Soviets played video games all day? Might be time to learn how to farm IRL, eh?
As a venezuelan that once did this to earn money i can get their desperation, you guys saw it too that grandma at the start of the video doing rev for money. I personally dont defend them unless they are good ppl, being one i know how mean and toxic a venezuelan can be. we call it "viveza criolla" here which translates to...uhhh i couldnt find a direct translation but is something to mean you are doing stuff for your own gain with no regards for the others, is a very destruction though approach that has lead my country to this "survival of the fittest" mentality. So dont feel bad to treat them bad if they are being mean to you, good ones will be friendly and prolly help you if they can.
Jagex when they’re making money off Venezuelans: Jagex when Venezuelans take over rev caves: OI CORE BLIMEY DEW YEW AHV A PERMIT TO DO DEW ALL THAT YA BONKED *nerf*
@@righttobearthecross9951 even though this video clearly explains that third party gold selling websites take advantage, there wouldn’t be gold farmers if they didn’t have an outlet.
They are crashing gwd dungeons in large numbers now, and extremely toxic while they do so. that's why all the god items have been losing value at an insane amount. It's not even worthwhile to try and farm them as a normal player who just enjoys bossing.
I went to Bandos over the weekend for the first time in months, and was wondering why it was so busy suddenly. In the past it wasn't nearly as hard to find a world, even on weekends. It makes sense now if all the gold farmers are flocking there.
When I was Astral crafting to 99, I met a nice Venezuelan who had 97 RC. I never asked him why he was playing RS, but I shared some advice on how I made money. He got permabanned a few months after I met him. I assumed he sold his bank and got caught. I dont know, but I never reported any Venezuelan gold farmer after meeting that guy. I taught him some basic English phrases and told him about other skilling moneymakers. Hopefully he's doing okay.
I played runescape as a kid and just came back to the game in december 2020. Its amazing to see how far it has come and that people can make a living off of selling runescape gold. The general exchange on runescape makes gileinor a whole other economy system. I remember selling my rune platelegs to a kid I met up the street for 40 bucks and that was back in like 96
Your videos are always a treat. I love the community, and its always nice to see the inner workings of what goes on outside of my world of chopping yews and getting one hit by jad
As a Venezuelan, that recently moved back, I would love to talk to these people and see how they are doing now. The country gets worse everyday. Hope they're still able to feed their families.
Honestly if there was a way for them to do anything else I’m sure they would, but the economy is fucked so.. they can’t sadly. (Although knowing how crazy 2020 is, Inb4 Venezuelan onlyfans spike in popularity somehow... or they get better PCs and farm other games)
This is insane I never thought I’d actually see a video like this but here we are! Good work and blessings to all those struggling to provide for their loved ones ♥️
People like me, venezuelan gamer but new in osrs i start play in the begining of this pandemic, not with intentions of sell gold just play, well i get ban last week for real world trader when i never sell gold to anyone
same bro, i just used to play for fun... then some time later got banned for macroing (never macro'd or botted in my life) so fuck osrs really.. or play with some vpn i guess
I used to have a Venezuelan friend who was in that situation. In-game we would go pk and I'd pretty much split him 70% of my loots because i felt sorry for him. Time goes and he caught me at the duel arena, winning bills and giving away mills donation to my cc members. Giving a lil extra to my less fortunate brothers always... but then he saw this as an opportunity and went to the sand casino himself and Lost over 800m gp with a few other ppl apparently lool. It is what it is.
For the cost of all of my twitch subs, I could feed a Venezuelan for like a month, maybe more. I just realized how much money I'm wasting on dumb shit. Jesus.
Found this vid in my recommended. I knew a guy in classic World of Warcraft who told us he basically fed his family with gold he sold and had been told by certain GM's that they would turn a blind eye ONLY because he was in Venezuela and would not IP ban any of them but had to ban their accounts due to company policy and fairness in treatment and essentially let them play to pay for food for the same reason that they were not gamers but just playing to feed themselves and it also kept the Auction houses full of resources at consistently the same price allowing easier preparation for PvE content. It eventually became a win win win.
Cool video dude, I use to be a 1750 protector awhile ago before wow classic came out for a clan called sovereign. I got to learn to love the vennies, i made Reddit for having an army of vennies called "rip avicii" similar name style to that. I haven't played osrs in a while(nothing to do) But I keep up and see how a few are going, I have one kid who I've stayed in contact with for a long time and gotten him out of poverty. Some also do enjoy the game, I know one that generally enjoys the game as well as gold farms. That smart ones and the ones who are driven.. will do questing services and such. Those are the one's who'll earn a lot in week. Anyway, cool video dude i have a lot of insight to this stuff.. it really is sad what they deal with. We are all human.
Want to hear something mad? Them going and devaluing items at bosses doesn't actually help you buy one for cheaper if you use the same method to make money or have items on your account that are from them bosses. It actually devalues your current bank value and means you make less money an hour doing any of these methods meaning that even though items are cheaper it still takes a similar amount of time to buy them.
@@joelharrison9563 If your only goal is to play the game, unlock everything and trying to get every item in the game. Does it matter that your bank that is worth 2 bil is only worth 1 bil now? money devalues everyday, it's just a bit faster with their help. Only problem you'll have is that new items getting introduced will be unaffordable, which will devalue overtime anyway. I wonder what approach jagex will take.
Welcome to Venezuelan-Scape I was wondering why the items at vorkath not tied to a high alc price floor dropped by over 60% since the rev cave update. Guess ill sell my lance and do rc for a year till Jagex creates a new money Volcano for them to sit in.
First time i came across "El Venezuelans" was when i was mid level doing some Air orbs at the obelisk. There was about 10 bots there and this one dude just standing there, he started talking to me in Spanish, so i told him i'm a Kiwi, don't speak Spanish. He immediately attacks me, i was WTF? went back to edgy, loaded up on un charged orbs and went back, soon as i pop up the ladder, he attacks me again. So i tooled up, got two friends and went back and we killed him and tried to kill as many bots as we could as well. Next day, one of the friends that helped me kill him and I are doing air orbs again, and some random shows up, then another, and another then one says (in Spanish, my friend caught some of it) "The Pirates have come!! its the Pirates!"...and attacked us :-)))We bailed, but we got pirate outfits and world hopped fucking with "El Venezuelans" till we got bored. :-))
hi, i am venezolano, este es el segundo video que veo sobre este tema en este canal y son muy interesantes a pesar de que son explicaciones de cosas que ya tengo conocimiento es lindo ver un video abordando el tema.
"Hi, I am Venezuelan. This is the second video that I see about this theme on this channel and they're very interesting even though they're explanations of things that I already have knowledge about. It's nice to see a video addressing the topic." Translation for any passing English folk
No they can't, government watches their electrical bills so if they are consuming beyond their means (which you would for CC) they get flagged and arrested. It'd be like using your local library to mine in the US since its state sponsored.
Obviously the op meant selling gold for crypto not mining crypto... But yeah anyway maybe they dont know but an easy solution is that they sell gold for crypto and sell that crypto to Venezuelan crypto exchanges or exchangers...
I remember back in like 2006-2007 I started playing RuneScape. I was 10-11 years old at the time. I didn’t speak a word of English, only Spanish. Nobody in my town in the Dominican Republic knew about the game, only me, my cousins and some of our friends who later joined us. We would rent computers in cyber cafes because we didn’t have computers, nor internet, power would go out all the time as well. But honestly it was liberating. There was a lot of bad crap I could have gotten into but lucky for me I was training my account like crazy. I remember when I first got my first month membership. My uncle who lived in Boston at the time bought this one time membership for me, I was blown away. Back then I remember there were Mexicans mining USD through RuneScape but Venezuelans are truly taking it to a different level and their struggle is even worse. I now live in the USA and wow, this takes me years back into the game. I’m so mad I could keep my acc on old RuneScape.
As a regular pker I miss the multy caves. The wildy was ready dead enough and that one spot was pretty active and always had something going on. I don't blame the farmers it was actually fun getting a couple buddies and going in and seeing how long you could last.
Thank you gower brothers for creating this game, I'm sure if this one didn't exist they could find other games that pay them, but this one is pretty good!
Honestly would gain so much respect for Jagex if they found a way to support Venezuelan players.. if they haven’t been able to take down black market GP exchanges by now might as well support real players who need games like this to maintain their livelihood and focus on taking down bots
It's not the job of a game company to support a country's select population. They have rules in the game banning exactly what they are doing. Why should they changes the rules for real world trade to exempt Venezuela?
@@jondoe230 my point is there is so much real world trading going on at this point that they never do anything about so if it’s going to happen it might as well support people in need
@@BullsBearsBabes Did you miss the part where they ban people that are doing it? Banning accounts that real world trade is doing something. Just because they cant keep up with all the accounts by banning doesnt mean they aren't doing nothing. It's against the terms of service. People in need is a loose arguement. What defines people in need then? How many "people in need" should they help? How can you actually tell if a gold farmer is a person in need. You can watch interviews on YT about people doing it as a side business just to make a lot of money, not people in need. It runs the game for real people by artificially introducing billions of gold into the game. Making items more expensive and so on. So many people do bots to farm or do tasks in game. Why not let everyone bot also? So many people do it and not enough get banned. People harass others and abuse others in game but not enough get banned or stopped. Why not just let everyone do it also? Accounts get hacked or people get locked out of accounts by bots trying to force a incorrect login on peoples accounts. Why not just let everyone do it? So if all of that is still going on might as well let it.
Dude the Venezuelans rising up to take back their Rev cave, all for their family, only to get crushed by the Runescape government. It's inspiring, heartwarming, and tragic all at the same time. I'm rooting for them!
You’re not completely right. $0.40 per mill is a good rate especially nowadays, any site that promotes higher rates as soon as you enter live chat they will undercut you. When you have 100M and the price is set to $0.48 when you join they usually offer 36-40 at the most. Then after fees you will usually end up closer to 34
The whole situation with venezuelans is extremely sad. I know that there gold farming was slowly runing the game. However, to be honest if there using the money because they need it for basic essentials I'm fine with that.
I mean who cares about a location in a big videogame when its aboutfeeding people. This is just tragic. I hope they find new ways to survive. The world is a fucked up place.
Lol I was in world 2 and spotted a group chatting away in Spanish at the eastern ardy sewers near the mining spot. Anyways I guess they didn’t expect anyone else to show up. I came up to them and said. Are you Venezuelan? And They all logged out immediately 🤣🤣
Great video! really interesting and sums up a pretty good part of what Venezuelans are doing. Hey! I did a Spanish translate of this video, gonna email to you, maybe you could find it usefull, it would be really good if it had subtitles so venezuelans could view it too
As a Venezolano myself I can say that everything in this video is totally true. Now I'll keep playing wow. I want to sell some tokens to buy food tomorrow.
Hello bro, I'm from Venezuela, I just want to say that the runescape has not been maintained but only to feed us, it is ugly that other people from other countries insult a Venezuelan, go a few days ago I spoke to a player of the game and I said hello bro Spanish and he said yes and I said I am from Venezuela and he said, I hope your mother dies, damn Venezuelan that really made me sad and that is ugly, I am 16 years old and I play that for fun and sometimes I take it as work to help My mom and my dad for the situation that is happening today is not good bro I hope you understand me also I have 2m in my bank and asked for help and no one helps me and I do not want to go to reve for the pk and etc I hope some Venezuelans understand. keep it up bro.
I agree they're a problem, however there is a fundamental difference. The net result of people rwting in the duel arena is gp leaving the economy via the tax, whereas gold farmers do the exact opposite, flooding the economy with gp and items/resources.
I'm Venezuelan and this is amazing, I didn't realized that this was happening, it's really a shame that because of the situation in my country ppl are getting the etiquette of "the hungry ones". Great video I hope everything comes up alright👍🏻
A lot of my venezuelans friends are getting banned in Vorkath too, they are being strike without mercy, some of them solely depend of this income for survive, others saved enough to buy a hot dog stand, but saving in Venezuela is almost an imposible task
Sad to see them blame themselves when it was more about the protection clans than them. It's ultimately healthier for the game to have them spread out like this, still plenty for them to do for cash.
What would be healthier for the game would be to ban them all outright. If that's to hard pull the plug and ban it from their country if they can't get their shit together.
@@Keyy7787 You literally have no emphaty whatsoever. OSRS is* one of their only ways to survive because the wages in venezuela are so bad you can't even buy food for a day You are basically killing people if you do that
Feels bad knowing the struggle they're going through and my heart goes out to them every time I hear that they're forced to play a game for 16 hours just to feed their family. While people in the US can throw away work and families just for a game..
It is sad, like honestly I think there should be an exception for them. Black markets will always be evident on runescape and for the amount they sell is only a fraction of what gets sold.
"they're forced to play a game for 16 hours just to feed their family." What did they do *before* video games, hmmm? Nah, you're just excusing parasitism.
@@BloodwyrmWildheart you know most jobs will pay them less than RuneScape RWT will, and with way higher requirements than a cheap ass state-issued laptop, right?
As a Venezuelan living in Canada, but with my whole family back home i can tell you the reason it's so hard to send funds back there is because of the sanctions. Technically any financial service that sends usd to Venezuela is subject to massive sanctions fees. So u cant send using well known financial services, only using their banks. Seems to me what's really going on is a runescaper with dual citizenship has bank accounts in the VZLA banks and also in their US banks. So they transfer to their vzla bank and act as the intermediary but for a profit
@Travis Bishop Exactly, just write a letter to the corrupt government and have them give away all their wealth and power to the citizens so they can afford to eat. I'm surprised none of them have thought of that.
@Travis Bishop Man, you're ignorant. Would you be willing to face your countries entire military force, untrained with probably a small group of other people with minimal training? The most likely outcome is they all die, and nothing changes. It's easy to call people cowards sitting behind your computer screen in a first world country.
@Travis Bishop Ah nice, name calling. You don't have the right to call people cowards for not throwing their life away, because you had no part in turning your country into what it is today. All you've done is reap the benefits of those before you who suffered through hardships. Noone said anything about being ashamed of your country, you can be proud of where you live and still have compassion for others suffering around the world. Looking down on people and pretending you're better than them doesn't make you better in any way, or brave. It just means you were dealt a better hand, and are arrogant enough to think you deserve it in some way. Attitudes like that are what keeps this world so divided.
Funny how ppl who hide behind a secure country, with nothing to worry about but vote the proper person (and I highly doubt these ppl even bother to vote either) who probably would get food stamps and a gofundme if they ever run out of money have the galls to call other ppl cowards cause they didnt go on a revolution.
I was one of those guys who turned a blind eye to this but recently the problem has gotten out of control. Venezuelans are all over in osrs now and the worst part is they just team up and crash or team up and rag. If they just had common courtesy in game, they wouldn't make so many enemies but the fact that they break in game rules and then to top if off are toxic to the community, well that's when people stop being allies.
@@Sidoxenized just type zulrah helper and you just click the phase and it shows you where to stand and what phase is next so your prepared. Helped me learn the rotations super easy.
I used to hunt a fair bit at black chins and would practice my Spanish and chat with the people from VZ there. They were really nice and it was usually a pleasure. Leading up to the elimination of the rev caves something really changed and when I told them I was from the US they would kick me from ccs and call for protection to kill me while being really toxic. Something definitely changed and imo they did it to themselves.
Honestly, I went into this skeptical. I thought who cares about these people that are breaking the rules. But then you hear about how shitty it is over there and how much they work for so little. It changed my perspective on it. I do feel bad for these guys. They hate doing it but its the best way they can earn enough just to live day by day.
But those farmers who are doing endgame bosses it takes along while to get the stats to farm bosses for loot, once they rwt a ban is likley and it’s perm so it doesn’t seem viable to rwt via endgame bosses long term.
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Glad to hear that they're being sold so much!
hola amigo porfavor dame tu bank
Any idea when KBD's will start shipping?
@crumb id like a bandos asap. I think you said perhaps next year right bro?
End of the month on KBDs posted progress pics on twitter almost done
Venezuelan grandma doing zulrah and most dudes my age who've been playing for over 10 years can't .
Venezulan grandma doing zulrah is iconic . Reminds me of the womans rights muscle poster from back in day. Lol. We should make a vene grandma poster.
The zulrah's bots don't need hard codes and tricks from the best players, needs the venezuelan grandma.
venezuelan grandma plays runescape like a job. dudes your age have lives and do things with themselves.
theres no comparison. the basement dwellers who play OSRS like its a job blow grandma and most decent players out of the water, because they play the game like gamers and not people who are just trying to make money.
@@Brighter_Scapes lol ya its crazy that she worked for a week, broke her nail and decided not to work anymore
@@sublimify650 she has a youtube channel and a twich channel i think
Imagine making a game that has a better economy than real countries.
@Dill Rogerz yeah Denmark is a real shithole compared to a capitalist dreamland like Haiti
@John Smitty In fairness, it doesn't help when reactionaries decry Americans who want policies like Denmark's as "socialist".
@John Smitty There are certainly always radicals of every persuasion, true. I think the center will ultimately hold, though. Neither radical left-wing nor radical right-wing policies tend to work out in the long term.
Honestly a lot of the self-proclaimed socialists seem to me as though they're just using that reactionary-pushed definition of socialism more than anything. I guess that when people are told that positions they hold are actually just socialism for long enough that they start identifying as socialists? But at the end of the day it's their positions that matter. Even if someone with a center-left bent is somehow convinced they're a "socialist"... they're not going to suddenly start supporting the nationalization of all industry!
@Eve There is really no country that is socialist or capitalist. All countries governments are amalgamations of all the ideologies. But frankly in the US there are plenty of people who would call what Denmark has as socialism. Also the point remains, you can't just cherry pick bad places and blame it on the ideology. Venezuela collapsed due mainly to a bad monetary policy and an economy tied almost entirely to state oil production. Also the US is less arguably less capitalist than Denmark is socialist. The US has arguably the most interventionalist government in it's economy out of the rest of the free world. The idea that we have free markets is kind of silly. Without it massive government intervention our economy would have collapsed in the depression, the 80s, 2007, and again now in 2020. I think we'd do better if we talked about specific policy ideas than just ideological arguments that go nowhere and solve nothing.
@Dill Rogerz It's because America undermines any country that is socialist so they don't do well and thus male Americans realise it is a better system.
So Jagex didn’t do anything about revs until after the Venezuelans turned against the rev clans? Hmm...
Exactly what I was thinking
The Venezuelans formed a huge super clan that could lock down more worlds more reliably than all the previous fractured protection clans. This allowed the gp inflation to go through the roof and definitely moved Revanants up in priority
@@chaotixthefox thanks for clarifying what my brain couldn't piece together at the time of reading.. also wow well played Venezuela haha
Jagex is sus
@@simontan5874 I suspect they could sell gold illegally too.
Whenever I watch vids on the history of Rev Cave clans I feel like I’m in school learning about a war IRL lol.
I feel like that watching fitmc with 2b2t
Could basically say it is, 2 groups of people turning to eachother.. Glad the venezuelans have stepped up their game, and it proofs that once the people get together, they will find out they are stronger then they actually believed... Together in unity they fought for their right instead of being ripped off
People have died over runescape gold farming. Wouldn't surprise me at all sadly. 😢
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Cuz you a nerd
I'm a venezuelan and this is just too common knowledge here. People who play to feed themselves are seen as not lazy but courageous because of the amount of time they spend doing that everyday, which is usually far better than wasting your time doing nothing
I respect them a lot
Just get a job ?
Toweraki you welcome buddy
@@ヌル-m7l God be with you, and your people.
Hopefully things will look up, before long.
“Courageous” lmao yeah, okay buddy
@@Votexforxmedude youre actually a sociopath. Please get help okay?
that older lady smashing out zulrah at the start of the vid has me so embarrassed that I'm scared to even try it. you good girl (Y)
I know right! Good on her, honestly it made me smile to see someone grandma kicking it at a decently mechanically difficult boss
Zulrah its always hard to learn i hope shes enjoyed the song tho coil ftw
Well, when you got no other option and it's the only way to feed your family, you learn fast. My heart goes to all my brothers in Venezuela❤️
@@ItzKythen you are not wrong - sending you all the love from Africa!
Why arw you scared to try it? You don't lose anything.
Legit, this whole history could be a goddamn epic fantasy book
I've actually seen people talking about it outside of the OSRS community. It's maybe not worth waiting 15 years for George RR Martin to write a book on but definitely an interesting story.
@@koudekroket1076 world history!
ive been shooting around the idea of a modern history book but not a lot interest it seem
@@Flowmaster925 this sounds fun. I kinda regret not writing a lot down over my life. I’d love to document this type of modern history though.
This is a sub-genre among litrpg books.
It’s good to see you doing well man! Another banger video and holy shit did it blow up FAST! Wishing you the best of luck moving forwards
Thanks a bunch man :)
:o LOIN do u play osrs? use to watch ur rust videos and never thought of you as someone who into OSRS? or is crumb IRL friend?
dont say that
Although the actions of gold farmers is damaging the economy, when you look at the human side of it and the reasons why Venezuelans do it.. I can’t help but sympathise. Just wish they had a way of earning a stable income and better way of life
Socialism
Ear Rapist Venezuela is socialist if I recall. Also I can't say I got a solution either, it's a complicated situation
Here's an idea: have Jagex set up a gold exchange specifically for venezuelans. They get their money and a probably more fair exchange rate and Jagex slays the hydra that is venezuelan gold farming.
Socialism for ya.
To hell with a fucking game if it means I need to feed my family
"with powerful computers they play world of warcraft, but ... some are stuck on runescape" literally me circa 2006
The worst and saddest thing of all is that in WOW they also ban you for gold farm too xd the same shit, just in another pc! >.
@@alexisjosesenaalvarado1020 Yes but botters also have more power in WoW classic imo. They fly hack, noclip through walls and teleport around farming stuff super quick.
I have a powerful PC and played WoW and RuneScape since I was a kid. I quit WoW a few months back as it was a commitment when it came to raids or pvp. What really pisses me off is how they are re releasing expansions + their retail content sucks. Something about osrs that I love, it’s so easy to hop on and play. The community is much more laid back too.
@@davidpicarazzi I tried wow classic but could not get into the feel of it over OSRS. its just so chill its where i belong.
@@araybeezy1653 Agreed!
This game saved my life. I played this game with my older cousin when I was 12 years old roughly till I was 15 - 16 I grew out of it and now at 28 I came back to get some nostalgia an I’ve been hooked back in. In a dark time in my life I turned to this game after 13 years of not playing only to come back to help save my life
I'm glad that it saved your life, hopefully everything gets and stays better ❤️
How did it save your life?
@@unpopularfacts4461 Pudo comer seguramente
Saved your life? A little dramatic don't you think?
Maybe not the most productive hobby you could’ve used as a life saver. Gym could save your life and save you from depression, so could martial arts, or getting into a career, or traveling or doing something worldly.
Hoping on a game where you can totally dissociate with the real world and sink into fantasy land for tens of thousands of hours, is definetly NOT life saving. It’s deceptive in that you may feel happy when you’re playing it, but it is not a good thing to waste your life away on RuneScape. I’ve basically pissed away the past year thanks to retuning to my virtual garden of Eden after a multiple year long hiatus.
This is so heartbreaking. Thanks for making a video about it.
I'm happy that you humanised them; a lot of people in the community completely dehumanise the Venezuelans in this game.
Its sad but true
@@CoffeeSuccubus Dude, it's a game. Do you realize that farming gold is probably SAVING SOME PEOPLES' LIVES. Just have some sympathy and imagine yourself in the following situation:
You're stuck in a country where you can work a normal job for amounts of money that will not put adequate food on the table for you and/or whatever family you have.
Or...you can play a video game all day with specific routine to get gold and make adequate money to SURVIVE.
Stop being blind to your privilege when people need to do this to survive in real life.
Our game is not more important than other peoples' lives.
@@jonh.668 Don't vote socialist. Simple as that.
@@PeterT1 They're real people behind the screen. Imagine that you were forced to play the game 8+ hours a day to have food to eat and you see clowns online saying that you're not human. Get real.
@@llllIlllIIIll you americans are so obsessed with socialism and communism lmao
This video was super informative, thanks for in-depth research :)
When I began this nostalgia trip I did not think it would end here. But I’m glad it did
Nostalgia trip, do you wander around gielinor lol.
I appreciate the fact that you approached this from both the Game-side, and the Human-side.
And I think we should make a HUGE distinction between those who are physically sitting at their PC's farming gold, putting items & gold into the Economy at the rate a normal player would- and those who have tens to hundreds of Bot scripts running 24/7.
In WoW Classic, the biggest issue is with BOTTERS who use fly/no clip hacks to farm vendor trash to put raw gold into the Economy 24/7...
While the people who are physically farming items/consumables at the rate a normal player could- to sell on the AH to make gold- aren't recking the Economy in the same way that the Bot Farms are.
They both kinda suck.. But Botters & Hackers are BY FAR the greatest threat to in-game economies, because they're putting far more gold into the Economy than any individual person ever could playing legitimately.
Trade limits 2021
A lot of these major botfarms, Ironically enough. Are based in North America mainly, and Asia secondly(which are usually segregated in games anyway) When you see someone running 40 bots with their 10900K RTX3080, it's not some third world farmer. Statistically speaking it's an english speaking neckbeard and the hatred really is misguided.
Go to brutal black dragons and compare the amount of bots to Venezuelan gold farmers. Theres no comparison. Bots are good at pumping out cheap consumables. Items people really want are deflated by farmers.
"And I think we should make a HUGE distinction between..."
Their muscles are atrophying either way. You think the Soviets played video games all day?
Might be time to learn how to farm IRL, eh?
As a venezuelan that once did this to earn money i can get their desperation, you guys saw it too that grandma at the start of the video doing rev for money.
I personally dont defend them unless they are good ppl, being one i know how mean and toxic a venezuelan can be. we call it "viveza criolla" here which translates to...uhhh i couldnt find a direct translation but is something to mean you are doing stuff for your own gain with no regards for the others, is a very destruction though approach that has lead my country to this "survival of the fittest" mentality.
So dont feel bad to treat them bad if they are being mean to you, good ones will be friendly and prolly help you if they can.
Leech.
@@dethanmcc1554 too bad theres no laugh react for this.
That's right
What are you up to these days?
@@jambocochelli9189 i do piercings now lol
I normally just watch vids and dont like or comment often. That being said i respect the effort you put into this channel. Keep em comming
Thanks a bunch means the world to me :)
What's the difference between interacting as a gamer and as a vulgar child?
if you interact as a child you will be reported and get locked out of your account until you confirm your birthday.
nice lmao
🤷🏾♂️
Well, a gamer has a bit more vocabulary to insult, and gets bored about griefing faster than the child
I was thinking that too, I think the guy got it backwards, it's just that they aren't being vulgar in English that triggers the gamers.
"Big thanks to 25buttholes for this footage."
🤣
Yo the investigative work that goes into these videos is amazing. It's very educational and makes for great content.
He forgot to mention that the gold farmed is bought by gringos to bet on stake.
Jagex when they’re making money off Venezuelans:
Jagex when Venezuelans take over rev caves: OI CORE BLIMEY DEW YEW AHV A PERMIT TO DO DEW ALL THAT YA BONKED *nerf*
OI! Av yow got a loicense fa dat der permit?
@@rw2954 haha sounds like parliament
Jagex is making money off us all. The rats that lose them money are gold farmers
@@righttobearthecross9951 even though this video clearly explains that third party gold selling websites take advantage, there wouldn’t be gold farmers if they didn’t have an outlet.
You fuckn nailed it bro .
Thank you for the footage 25buttholes
They are crashing gwd dungeons in large numbers now, and extremely toxic while they do so. that's why all the god items have been losing value at an insane amount. It's not even worthwhile to try and farm them as a normal player who just enjoys bossing.
They're super easy to crash tho cus they all have dogshit gear
@@suidice5596 LOL
Yeah I couldn't help my buddy learn duo Bandos GWD, Spanish speakers crashed with a 4-man and kept saying "hop"
0.4 is standard selling price atm idk what this guys talking about
Remove the GWD! It’s the only option!
I went to Bandos over the weekend for the first time in months, and was wondering why it was so busy suddenly. In the past it wasn't nearly as hard to find a world, even on weekends. It makes sense now if all the gold farmers are flocking there.
In Venezuela they tell the kids in school if they work hard they too can become a zulrah farmer when they grow up.
As a non RS player I am absolutely mindblown by the depth of this saga. Great content.
When I was Astral crafting to 99, I met a nice Venezuelan who had 97 RC. I never asked him why he was playing RS, but I shared some advice on how I made money. He got permabanned a few months after I met him. I assumed he sold his bank and got caught.
I dont know, but I never reported any Venezuelan gold farmer after meeting that guy. I taught him some basic English phrases and told him about other skilling moneymakers. Hopefully he's doing okay.
I played runescape as a kid and just came back to the game in december 2020. Its amazing to see how far it has come and that people can make a living off of selling runescape gold. The general exchange on runescape makes gileinor a whole other economy system. I remember selling my rune platelegs to a kid I met up the street for 40 bucks and that was back in like 96
Your videos are always a treat. I love the community, and its always nice to see the inner workings of what goes on outside of my world of chopping yews and getting one hit by jad
As a Venezuelan, that recently moved back, I would love to talk to these people and see how they are doing now. The country gets worse everyday. Hope they're still able to feed their families.
Honestly if there was a way for them to do anything else I’m sure they would, but the economy is fucked so.. they can’t sadly.
(Although knowing how crazy 2020 is, Inb4 Venezuelan onlyfans spike in popularity somehow... or they get better PCs and farm other games)
@@joshb7415 nice humanity 👌
GREAT VID! It’s hard to hear about how bad it is for people in other countries. It makes me want to do anything I can to help them.
America is next
I'll give u my PayPal send all the help u want bro
Don’t PK them in the wildy and you’ll be feeding families from all the GP they didn’t lose
The biggest thing that would help Venezuelans is to free them from the boot of the American Empire
@@KentRoads lmao
This is insane I never thought I’d actually see a video like this but here we are! Good work and blessings to all those struggling to provide for their loved ones ♥️
There have been tons of videos like this over the past several months from this and other channels.
to me, this idea is like an example of where the whole world can go if they trick us all into one massive game and have to play for our lives
@@Flowmaster925 very good point! Someone write a book about this idea 😂😂😂
@@JeremiahB444 those people are living a book then, sifi fantasy thats based on a true story
Very nice lil documentary my boy, you always killin it
Thank you so much for makin these, please DO NOT STOP!
People like me, venezuelan gamer but new in osrs i start play in the begining of this pandemic, not with intentions of sell gold just play, well i get ban last week for real world trader when i never sell gold to anyone
thats rude as u should email jagex
same bro, i just used to play for fun... then some time later got banned for macroing (never macro'd or botted in my life) so fuck osrs really.. or play with some vpn i guess
Vpn
I got banned for botting when I was just playing the game. I guess my playing style was too robotic in the fucking grind simulator
I got an account selling ban after i got hacked, jagex has no clue what they are doing they just fuck the game up for everyone
I used to have a Venezuelan friend who was in that situation. In-game we would go pk and I'd pretty much split him 70% of my loots because i felt sorry for him. Time goes and he caught me at the duel arena, winning bills and giving away mills donation to my cc members. Giving a lil extra to my less fortunate brothers always... but then he saw this as an opportunity and went to the sand casino himself and Lost over 800m gp with a few other ppl apparently lool. It is what it is.
You ruined him and made it so his family will suffer :/
@@chowyy dug his own grave mans back on the grind i hear tho
"It is what it is." yeah you're a prick, that's what it is.
For the cost of all of my twitch subs, I could feed a Venezuelan for like a month, maybe more. I just realized how much money I'm wasting on dumb shit. Jesus.
It's never too late my friend, I'm here if you change your mind ; )
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I'm joking
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Kinda
Found this vid in my recommended. I knew a guy in classic World of Warcraft who told us he basically fed his family with gold he sold and had been told by certain GM's that they would turn a blind eye ONLY because he was in Venezuela and would not IP ban any of them but had to ban their accounts due to company policy and fairness in treatment and essentially let them play to pay for food for the same reason that they were not gamers but just playing to feed themselves and it also kept the Auction houses full of resources at consistently the same price allowing easier preparation for PvE content. It eventually became a win win win.
Cool video dude, I use to be a 1750 protector awhile ago before wow classic came out
for a clan called sovereign.
I got to learn to love the vennies, i made Reddit for having an army of vennies called "rip avicii" similar name style to that.
I haven't played osrs in a while(nothing to do) But I keep up and see how a few are going, I have one kid who I've stayed in contact with for a long time and gotten him out of poverty. Some also do enjoy the game, I know one that generally enjoys the game as well as gold farms.
That smart ones and the ones who are driven.. will do questing services and such. Those are the one's who'll earn a lot in week.
Anyway, cool video dude i have a lot of insight to this stuff.. it really is sad what they deal with. We are all human.
Lmao they should just learn TOB and farm scythes so I can buy one for cheaper
Want to hear something mad? Them going and devaluing items at bosses doesn't actually help you buy one for cheaper if you use the same method to make money or have items on your account that are from them bosses. It actually devalues your current bank value and means you make less money an hour doing any of these methods meaning that even though items are cheaper it still takes a similar amount of time to buy them.
@@joelharrison9563 thats why im an ironman.
The smart ones do. I know a few
@@joelharrison9563 bro who cares I want a cheap scythe smh
@@joelharrison9563 If your only goal is to play the game, unlock everything and trying to get every item in the game. Does it matter that your bank that is worth 2 bil is only worth 1 bil now? money devalues everyday, it's just a bit faster with their help.
Only problem you'll have is that new items getting introduced will be unaffordable, which will devalue overtime anyway.
I wonder what approach jagex will take.
Welcome to Venezuelan-Scape
I was wondering why the items at vorkath not tied to a high alc price floor dropped by over 60% since the rev cave update.
Guess ill sell my lance and do rc for a year till Jagex creates a new money Volcano for them to sit in.
2089: ‘member when rev caves was removed and Venezuelans had to go do Vorkath again?!?
90 year old grandpa : iiiiii member
Member the trade limits from 2013?
Jagex: i member 😂
U member, memberrrrr?
ooooo I membaaa i membaaaa
So your grandpa was 1 years old when the rev caves were removed? Hahaha
@@KHANSTER1029 they were removed in 2000?
Can you tell me the music you use in the backgrounds?
First time i came across "El Venezuelans" was when i was mid level doing some Air orbs at the obelisk. There was about 10 bots there and this one dude just standing there, he started talking to me in Spanish, so i told him i'm a Kiwi, don't speak Spanish. He immediately attacks me, i was WTF? went back to edgy, loaded up on un charged orbs and went back, soon as i pop up the ladder, he attacks me again. So i tooled up, got two friends and went back and we killed him and tried to kill as many bots as we could as well. Next day, one of the friends that helped me kill him and I are doing air orbs again, and some random shows up, then another, and another then one says (in Spanish, my friend caught some of it) "The Pirates have come!! its the Pirates!"...and attacked us :-)))We bailed, but we got pirate outfits and world hopped fucking with "El Venezuelans" till we got bored. :-))
Theres a farm at Giant Mole now too. Dhide, dragon crossbows and nezzys
And still zulrah lol the price of scales have gone down by almost 100gp
hi, i am venezolano, este es el segundo video que veo sobre este tema en este canal y son muy interesantes a pesar de que son explicaciones de cosas que ya tengo conocimiento es lindo ver un video abordando el tema.
"Hi, I am Venezuelan. This is the second video that I see about this theme on this channel and they're very interesting even though they're explanations of things that I already have knowledge about. It's nice to see a video addressing the topic."
Translation for any passing English folk
@@Tophius Thank you sir.
Venezuelan's could use crypto currency to get paid better, although I truly wish they would leave runescape alone.
No they can't, government watches their electrical bills so if they are consuming beyond their means (which you would for CC) they get flagged and arrested. It'd be like using your local library to mine in the US since its state sponsored.
@@Shirahoshan so, how else would they do it? The money doesn't just teleport to their front door.
One way or the other, it's trackable.
@@Shirahoshan there are ways around that
@@Shirahoshan I don't think he means mining CC, I think he means getting paid via CC
Obviously the op meant selling gold for crypto not mining crypto...
But yeah anyway maybe they dont know but an easy solution is that they sell gold for crypto and sell that crypto to Venezuelan crypto exchanges or exchangers...
I remember back in like 2006-2007 I started playing RuneScape. I was 10-11 years old at the time. I didn’t speak a word of English, only Spanish. Nobody in my town in the Dominican Republic knew about the game, only me, my cousins and some of our friends who later joined us. We would rent computers in cyber cafes because we didn’t have computers, nor internet, power would go out all the time as well. But honestly it was liberating. There was a lot of bad crap I could have gotten into but lucky for me I was training my account like crazy. I remember when I first got my first month membership. My uncle who lived in Boston at the time bought this one time membership for me, I was blown away. Back then I remember there were Mexicans mining USD through RuneScape but Venezuelans are truly taking it to a different level and their struggle is even worse. I now live in the USA and wow, this takes me years back into the game. I’m so mad I could keep my acc on old RuneScape.
this is actually really sad... good video man.
As a regular pker I miss the multy caves. The wildy was ready dead enough and that one spot was pretty active and always had something going on. I don't blame the farmers it was actually fun getting a couple buddies and going in and seeing how long you could last.
I mean he's not wrong. Alot of the player base really dislikes the Venez players. For good reason.
I miss when revenants would just roam around wilderness
PLEASE TELL ME THE NPC NAMES OF THEM. Ive been looking for them on the wiki :(
Thank you gower brothers for creating this game, I'm sure if this one didn't exist they could find other games that pay them, but this one is pretty good!
thx for covering this mate
I also heard people in prison that have access to mobile phones uses runescape money as a form of currency to trade stuff in prison. Its crazy!
You serious ? Lmfao
@@paulymolly9380 i heard about it ye
@@paulymolly9380 yea lol
I just came home from up top. And I didn’t hear nothing about that.
@@gregdepaoli1912 You can search it up, someone on youtube made a video about it but I can't remember who tho
Honestly would gain so much respect for Jagex if they found a way to support Venezuelan players.. if they haven’t been able to take down black market GP exchanges by now might as well support real players who need games like this to maintain their livelihood and focus on taking down bots
It's not the job of a game company to support a country's select population. They have rules in the game banning exactly what they are doing. Why should they changes the rules for real world trade to exempt Venezuela?
@@jondoe230 my point is there is so much real world trading going on at this point that they never do anything about so if it’s going to happen it might as well support people in need
@@BullsBearsBabes Did you miss the part where they ban people that are doing it? Banning accounts that real world trade is doing something. Just because they cant keep up with all the accounts by banning doesnt mean they aren't doing nothing. It's against the terms of service.
People in need is a loose arguement. What defines people in need then? How many "people in need" should they help? How can you actually tell if a gold farmer is a person in need. You can watch interviews on YT about people doing it as a side business just to make a lot of money, not people in need.
It runs the game for real people by artificially introducing billions of gold into the game. Making items more expensive and so on.
So many people do bots to farm or do tasks in game. Why not let everyone bot also? So many people do it and not enough get banned.
People harass others and abuse others in game but not enough get banned or stopped. Why not just let everyone do it also?
Accounts get hacked or people get locked out of accounts by bots trying to force a incorrect login on peoples accounts. Why not just let everyone do it?
So if all of that is still going on might as well let it.
Dude the Venezuelans rising up to take back their Rev cave, all for their family, only to get crushed by the Runescape government. It's inspiring, heartwarming, and tragic all at the same time. I'm rooting for them!
Great work Crumb, another great video. Hope to see more!
Thanks man :)
Very insightful video, thank you
I'm now friends with a venezuelan who picked up my salmon at barbarian village
I remember reading some guy begging on a forum last year on how they can continue gold farming after all his alts were banned.
How does anything in OSRS maintain value if there's a literal entire dedicated country of people being paid to farm it 24/7
Supply and demand
@@tvmanin cry more it’s just a game u dweeb
@@joshpromo6270 a game that loses it's fun because of these douches. They crash gwd all the time now.
supply and demand, the number of people who buy gold now is osrs is huge
Because it's not the literal entire country, it's
You’re not completely right. $0.40 per mill is a good rate especially nowadays, any site that promotes higher rates as soon as you enter live chat they will undercut you. When you have 100M and the price is set to $0.48 when you join they usually offer 36-40 at the most. Then after fees you will usually end up closer to 34
Interesting video man, love your content :)
The whole situation with venezuelans is extremely sad. I know that there gold farming was slowly runing the game. However, to be honest if there using the money because they need it for basic essentials I'm fine with that.
what a nice comment people like you need the world thanks friend
I mean who cares about a location in a big videogame when its aboutfeeding people. This is just tragic. I hope they find new ways to survive. The world is a fucked up place.
@@chicanachicanos
yes friend I have to be selling almost every day 10m and play long hours to survive daily friend greetings
@@HectorTineo Is there anyway to send you money safely?
@@HectorTineo sorry to hear that my friend, I hope the situation changes.
Much love
Lol I was in world 2 and spotted a group chatting away in Spanish at the eastern ardy sewers near the mining spot. Anyways I guess they didn’t expect anyone else to show up. I came up to them and said. Are you Venezuelan? And They all logged out immediately 🤣🤣
el trauma :,u
Leave them alone.
Great video! really interesting and sums up a pretty good part of what Venezuelans are doing.
Hey! I did a Spanish translate of this video, gonna email to you, maybe you could find it usefull, it would be really good if it had subtitles so venezuelans could view it too
Please do! Contact page on my site in desc
@@Crumb Done
@@LuisGomez-we3nt yo lo quisiera ver con sub titulos para entenderlo mejor. como hariamos?
@@darwinrivas1031 Yo lo envié, si quieres te los paso en texto
I am Venezuelan I would like to know what they say I do not understand English
Great video man, keep it up
As a Venezolano myself I can say that everything in this video is totally true. Now I'll keep playing wow. I want to sell some tokens to buy food tomorrow.
how much profit is wow per day?
Hello bro, I'm from Venezuela, I just want to say that the runescape has not been maintained but only to feed us, it is ugly that other people from other countries insult a Venezuelan, go a few days ago I spoke to a player of the game and I said hello bro Spanish and he said yes and I said I am from Venezuela and he said, I hope your mother dies, damn Venezuelan that really made me sad and that is ugly, I am 16 years old and I play that for fun and sometimes I take it as work to help My mom and my dad for the situation that is happening today is not good bro I hope you understand me also I have 2m in my bank and asked for help and no one helps me and I do not want to go to reve for the pk and etc I hope some Venezuelans understand. keep it up bro.
I gained some venny friends, they’re very friendly people and also pretty interesting to talk to.
I love you
You're a pussy
Really? The ones crashing us at bandos were all toxic cunts a couple nights ago.
@@Marco905905 lmao everyone crashes at bandos
Now lets go after the american/UK rwtraders in the duel arena.
Amen
I agree they're a problem, however there is a fundamental difference. The net result of people rwting in the duel arena is gp leaving the economy via the tax, whereas gold farmers do the exact opposite, flooding the economy with gp and items/resources.
this is by far the best history that jagex have ever made thx!
I encountered a random player and he began speaking to me in a Spanish/rough English mix and he was a really nice dude!
I'm Venezuelan and this is amazing, I didn't realized that this was happening, it's really a shame that because of the situation in my country ppl are getting the etiquette of "the hungry ones". Great video I hope everything comes up alright👍🏻
This just gave me PTSD. I'm watching this video after work and I do cybersecurity for BBVA bank and I saw it was mentioned.
Cybersecurity? So youre like a condom for people having internet sex?
@@BlastinRope lol
A lot of my venezuelans friends are getting banned in Vorkath too, they are being strike without mercy, some of them solely depend of this income for survive, others saved enough to buy a hot dog stand, but saving in Venezuela is almost an imposible task
All ur vids are awesome man
Even though it's been a decade since I've played this game, I would love to see the history of rev caves clans narrated by you.
after completing jad for the first time this week, i definitely want that jad figurine for christmas 😅
Sad to see them blame themselves when it was more about the protection clans than them.
It's ultimately healthier for the game to have them spread out like this, still plenty for them to do for cash.
It's less healthier for the game, as now they're negatively affecting even more of the economy.
What would be healthier for the game would be to ban them all outright. If that's to hard pull the plug and ban it from their country if they can't get their shit together.
Trade limits 2021
It didn't solve anything though, all it did was push the problem somewhere else.
@@Keyy7787 You literally have no emphaty whatsoever.
OSRS is* one of their only ways to survive because the wages in venezuela are so bad you can't even buy food for a day
You are basically killing people if you do that
Feels bad knowing the struggle they're going through and my heart goes out to them every time I hear that they're forced to play a game for 16 hours just to feed their family. While people in the US can throw away work and families just for a game..
It is sad, like honestly I think there should be an exception for them. Black markets will always be evident on runescape and for the amount they sell is only a fraction of what gets sold.
Nah sucks to suck to live in venezuela but ain't my problem I'm mexican, now living in us and never looking back. Fuck gold farmers.
@@BrandonDuffield
An exception for real-world trading? You need to think about that for a good long while.
"they're forced to play a game for 16 hours just to feed their family."
What did they do *before* video games, hmmm? Nah, you're just excusing parasitism.
@@BloodwyrmWildheart you know most jobs will pay them less than RuneScape RWT will, and with way higher requirements than a cheap ass state-issued laptop, right?
As a Venezuelan living in Canada, but with my whole family back home i can tell you the reason it's so hard to send funds back there is because of the sanctions. Technically any financial service that sends usd to Venezuela is subject to massive sanctions fees. So u cant send using well known financial services, only using their banks. Seems to me what's really going on is a runescaper with dual citizenship has bank accounts in the VZLA banks and also in their US banks. So they transfer to their vzla bank and act as the intermediary but for a profit
Just ordered a Jad from U bro!! Can’t wait :)
Thanks a bunch man! Snagged one of the last ones
@@Crumb thanks man :)
Crumb should not be selling you a fire cape. This is outrageous in many degrees.
@@Brighter_Scapes selling irl Jad statues not in-game fire capes loloo
Got it today, I love it. Thank you so much :)
I can read Spanish and seeing those chat logs made me sad. They are saying how they don't have food and gas is way too expensive.
@Travis Bishop Exactly, just write a letter to the corrupt government and have them give away all their wealth and power to the citizens so they can afford to eat. I'm surprised none of them have thought of that.
@Travis Bishop Man, you're ignorant. Would you be willing to face your countries entire military force, untrained with probably a small group of other people with minimal training? The most likely outcome is they all die, and nothing changes. It's easy to call people cowards sitting behind your computer screen in a first world country.
@Travis Bishop Ah nice, name calling. You don't have the right to call people cowards for not throwing their life away, because you had no part in turning your country into what it is today. All you've done is reap the benefits of those before you who suffered through hardships. Noone said anything about being ashamed of your country, you can be proud of where you live and still have compassion for others suffering around the world. Looking down on people and pretending you're better than them doesn't make you better in any way, or brave. It just means you were dealt a better hand, and are arrogant enough to think you deserve it in some way. Attitudes like that are what keeps this world so divided.
Funny how ppl who hide behind a secure country, with nothing to worry about but vote the proper person (and I highly doubt these ppl even bother to vote either) who probably would get food stamps and a gofundme if they ever run out of money have the galls to call other ppl cowards cause they didnt go on a revolution.
@@cmcdonald194 or do it like Peru and kick the president out
Sad that they cant run wow on their pc, that would really boost their income.
shoutouts to the lil old lady SWEATIN at Zulrah, what a hero
I was one of those guys who turned a blind eye to this but recently the problem has gotten out of control. Venezuelans are all over in osrs now and the worst part is they just team up and crash or team up and rag. If they just had common courtesy in game, they wouldn't make so many enemies but the fact that they break in game rules and then to top if off are toxic to the community, well that's when people stop being allies.
Imagine playin this for fun while others playing for survival. I’m humbled.
I’m lvl 108 with over 15 years experience and o still can’t do zulrah effectively.
Runelite plug ins is the only way I could get 1 kc. Nothing illegal just a rotation map and where to stand helped alot.
@@fresh_jesusjuice oh shit didnt know runelite has that nice
@@Sidoxenized just type zulrah helper and you just click the phase and it shows you where to stand and what phase is next so your prepared. Helped me learn the rotations super easy.
@@fresh_jesusjuice ty
I did it in one week because I wanted to eat. Tough years in Venezuela :(
I couldn’t help but laugh at the “big thanks to 25buttholes for the footage”
I used to hunt a fair bit at black chins and would practice my Spanish and chat with the people from VZ there. They were really nice and it was usually a pleasure. Leading up to the elimination of the rev caves something really changed and when I told them I was from the US they would kick me from ccs and call for protection to kill me while being really toxic. Something definitely changed and imo they did it to themselves.
I actually have a Venezuelan friend that plays. Met on a quest and have been friends since. I try to help out when I can.
Been Binge watching your vids all day
Someone get this man spanish subs. I think the venezuelans would love to see this
not needed
@@jeanalbertogonzaleze8580 why?
It felt so cool to see them form a revolution against the clans that underpaid them
Honestly, I went into this skeptical. I thought who cares about these people that are breaking the rules. But then you hear about how shitty it is over there and how much they work for so little. It changed my perspective on it. I do feel bad for these guys. They hate doing it but its the best way they can earn enough just to live day by day.
Yeah exactly, to us its just a game to them its to feed their families because they're stuck in a shitty system
Welcome to communism.
But those farmers who are doing endgame bosses it takes along while to get the stats to farm bosses for loot, once they rwt a ban is likley and it’s perm so it doesn’t seem viable to rwt via endgame bosses long term.