Worst roof ever - vent pipe collar repair
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- Worst roof ever installed - leaking vent pipe collar repair. It looks like someone tried to do a pipe collar repair previously. Just a few minutes into the repair it was obvious they didn't know what they were doing!
It appeared they cut shingle short and just tucked them under the next shingle. We removed the plastic pipe boot to install an aluminum one as well as installed a pipe vent cap. please hit the thumbs up button and subscribe to the Grand Roofing channel, so you don't miss another video.
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That good old 1AM content - Laying in bed, knowing nothing about roofs yet still enjoying this video. Great work.
Haha thanks
Legit, i kinda want to see a good roof :D
Same! Literally 1:10 am! Watching content to help with my own roof
This made me laugh because it’s true.
Tanks to Gravity it all works. Shingle Logic.. One piece under the other.. Very satisfying.
I’m an electrician that somehow ended up on a roofing channel.
I subscribed anyway, because it looks cool and, this dude seems to know what he’s doing.
Made me nervous when he was cutting a shingle right over the flexible part of the boot.
It shouldn’t penetrate the leather unless he REALLY presses
Should have put a hood on the other vent cap as well. Wouldn't bother me but some people will be obsessed with the inconsistency.
As much as I hate to admit it, I got tired of replacing neoprene boots all the time. We all know that they only last 5 to 10 years before UV damage makes them split. So I started doing one of two things, convince the homeowner to upgrade to lead boots, or just slap a repair collar on it and be done. I saw no reason to pull shingles to only put another crappy neoprene boot back on it. Probably just me being lazy, but the result was exactly the same.
Plastic boots on almost every roof I’ve ever torn off, very rarely were they leaking and if they were the roof was past it’s lifespan anyways
@@Beandiptheredneck I assume you are in Canada. I would think the UV degradation you all would see there would be quite a bit less than we see in Kentucky. I've also seen a huge difference in longevity in neoprene boots depending on manufacturers. I can tell you that I've torn off many neo boots that were still in good shape. But in my area, I've seen more that had failed in 10 years or less. Just my observation.
This wasn't leaking because of it being plastic or neoprene. The leak was actually because somebody did a horrible job installing shingles around it. They simply cut part of the headlap of and tucked it up under the next shingle just a little bit.
@@GrandRoofingInc I have seen that a lot too. No attention to detail. The last crew I ran had standing orders to not cover up a flashing or boot till I had looked at it. A sad as that sounds, it kept my warranty work to almost zero. Of course I still had a few issues, like an idiot who bounced a nail gun against a poly double bubble skylight and shot a nail right into the corner🙄
@@georgegroot9704 I don’t know that there would be a huge difference in UV, we still have very long hot summers. Pretty well everything around here is duraflo brand
I RESPECT ROOFERS. TY FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK
I have been roofing for almost 25 years. Been in business for 12. I've watched all your videos and every single thing you do and your methods, are identical to mine. Its nice to fi ally see a fellow roofer who actually knows what they are doing and talking about. Keep up the great work. Guys like you and me are actually giving roofers a GOOD name. Cheers brother
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I’m only a homeowner in TX who has a severely damaged roof, which is getting a total replacement starting next week. I’ve learned a lot watching your videos. Thanks and keep it up! Fascinating to learn why roofs are built like they are.
Thank you! Let me know, give me an update how it goes when the project is done.
How did the replacement go?
My replacement roof has now been done for over a year. Everything from soffits up was replaced. It looks great and has held up great. Wish my experience with my contractor was 100%, but it wasn’t. They mismanaged my job so badly (ex. did not cover exposed part of my roof and thunderstorm happened, drenching my home inside. I told them multiple times a day for a week the storm was forecast). After months of hassling and arguing, all was finally made right! As with most things in life, finding an excellent contractor is way harder than it should be.
One note, thanks to videos like this, I was able to discuss something I knew nothing about, in a reasonably educated fashion and properly advocate for myself. So important to not getting screwed! So THANK YOU!!!
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Glad my notification led to an update haha, sorry to her about the negative experience. About to become a first time home owner myself so I'm kinda just drifting through the YT recommended and getting my knowledge up
Good job..... Easier to do it right the 1st time... Tear Off Replacement Areas are prone to Leaks and Blown Off Shingles....
these are the roofers we need, not the ' cutting corners make it easier' ones
You are making roofing great again your doing a fine job keep on roofing and uploading.
My third comment, thank you for all the information I needed to get this job done right. I’m definitely grateful!
It is really amazing the bad handwork you will come across out there...I remember one time, was sent out to inspect an installation as an electrician. What I saw was really ugly, dangerous and just so wrong. I explained the problems to the customer, and called the the worker that made it an armature that needs to go to jail. But...as it turned out...It was made by my colleague from the same company I was working in....damn...
Don't leave us with a cliffhanger. What happened to the colleague?
When the Pro is going, "what the hell is this stuff" you know somethings just...not right....but when you hit the level of "what kinda crack was this guy smoking" You Know You're Fucked
So impressed by your work ethic, knowledge base, and explanations. Indiana is lucky to have you. I know I miss a lot of the roofing jargon / references but I'm still learning a lot. It seems like best practices is the foundation of your business, which is so refreshing. Btw, what kind of hammer are you using? And what brand of hooked knife? I checked your page for tool videos but only skimmed it quickly.
It's also funny but really great that your phone has rung for every video I've watch so far. Thank you for the info & videos & have a happy new year!
I would have put caulking under those exposed nails and on top also. Maybe it overkill
but it goes further to prevent leaks.
1:00 You may want to actually watch some Y___E videos then you might realize just how many people say the exact same things. Its so bad that I cringe now every time someone says that. (Don't you think we know how to do the process, that we actually need it explained during every video?) I will instantly unsub if I hear it and never hit the buttons when someone mentions it. It just feels better when the idea comes from myself, you know? I usually don't bother explaining but you're video is good and maybe you can try the non intervention method for subs. I appreciate people who skip it and don't succumb to that desperation syndrome.
1:24 Again, the video is excellent though. Keep it up, I'll stop back.
4:35 The ethical demonstration is top notch, especially. You are smack on target about the low watts out there, ripping people off. Dispicable. Do you give the customers photo evidence so that they can confront? You could even confront repeat offenders? (or not)
And if it weren't for the nag at the beginning....
But I'll give you a second chance and stop back through my bookmark process....
I definitely know how to replace individualized shingles now.
PS Selling the dome is a really good plus sale and its actually a good thing to do; it is to keep critters out, birds nests, squirrels from getting in there and dying and clogging but not really rain and moisture because moisture generally forms inside of there anyhow (condensation, etc.) and if water getting in there and leaking would be a prob then it the stack would actually need to be repaired/replaced.
I'm on my roof constantly. In fact I use my tree climbing harness as a safety system, AS SHOULD YOU (use a harness in case you bip when you should bop, since you are doing it professionally (often). A single story can F! you up and 3 stories, well.... Be careful,and don't get too cocky. Even the best can step on their own shoe lace once or twice in a lifetime. Best regards and bless your roof monkey self.
Imna roofing contractor in Ga.
I use your videos to train my Project Managers so we can make sure our Subs put on a good roof.
Thank you for the content!
I want my 10 percent
Lol you can't teach your subs???? Must not be a roofer hahaha or your subs aren't roofers smh just a salesman with a nice truck
Those added pieces of shingles are what i call dummy shingles. When someone wants to hide an area where the lines don't match or repairs when they don't want to take something apart they just go over and tuck under at some point to hide it
Seems like a worst repair ever instead of worst roof ever. I enjoyed the video, but it seemed like it could have been titled differently. Thumbs Up [:
Enjoy the aromas lol😂. Imagine a 105 year old city water system where everyone eats tacos in the neighborhood and washes it down with meisterchow!
You said in another video you’re not here to bash work yet every video is called worst roof ever. Lmao stick to roofing
Apparently that's what people searched so the TH-cam algorithm pushes it.
IM only 7:34 in. My guess is when the new roof was put on, they didnt remove the boot and reinstall. The boot sat on top of old shingles, they left those shingles and just layed new shingles over the old so the boot is sandwiched between so they didnt have to remove the boot and do it right. Lazy, just my guess.
So you never touched on how you presented the homoowner with the new quote n change order. Do you ask your customers upfront n say “hey I know for sure it’s the cap on the vent stack that’s leaking, here’s set price for materials n labor. If I come across other serious issues with roof that I discovered in the process of fixing original concern, what u wanna do past first involve”
How’s that work
If you get a cushion from a sofa you'll be able to sit without sliding or even nail down both both works
Nice info!
I have worked for several large roofing manufactures over the last 20 years, and it’s amazing how many have botched-craftsmanship and these are Large Roofing contractors located in the DFW area. Ugh
Good stuff
Subed
Cutting shingle tips angles called "dovetailing"
Been watching a couple of your videos and checked my roof this morning to see what was wrong and why it was leaking. Everything looked spot on and thought maybe it was just the wind blowing rain under, but after seeing this video, I have my doubts about the roof. Seems you really got to get under there to find out the problem if there is one. Appreciate the video and the info!
Curious ….. what did this repair cost ? Excellent work fyi
Nothing wrong with that boot
Yeah, I really like the POV mounted camera videos ... a birds-eye view of what you do and how you're doing it. Almost ASMR ... LOL. Thanks for the great videos - Muddypaw🐾
you are a master of your craft i respekt you alot
I work in the warranty/service department for a large home exterior company. I fix everything from doors, windows, siding, roofing, gutters, and so on. I always am searching for new easy ways to do my job. Thank you for your videos. Even though I am comfortable doing my job, its always nice to watch informative videos to sharpen my craft. Well done, keep up the good work!!!
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Your videos are a great source of information for new roofers like me. Keep up the good work! You have some pro tips that have helped me out a ton... Going to start putting my flat bar under my cuts on repair jobs from now on =D
Glad it could help! Where are you watching from or what state you work in?
I do my work out of West Michigan. Just started roofing this year and I've learned most of what I know from your channel and a few other roofing youtubers. Can't thank you guys enough!
You're welcome, Not a problem!
I worked 4 my dad who had a roofing and siding company in the town I grew up in and I am amazed at the horrible crafmenship of the work you come across. It is obvious to me that the roofing jobs you look at are installed by blind criminals!!
It takes more work to be a hack then it does to do it rite this is usually the case
Cold weather we use a cheap pair of snips or a hook blade attached to an oscillating tool… Everyone has little tips and tricks 😉 Work looks awesome!
Leaking vent stack boots at the pipe/boot junction... I've encountered this on numerous homes with roofs near the end of their useful lives. So, I just get a new rubber boot and slip it over the pipe bringing it down to within a few inches of the old one like an umbrella. The homeowners can have all the vent stack boots replaced when they get around to replacing the roof.
I can't tell you how happy folks are when you give them a perfectly functional stop-gap solution at pennies on the dollar compared to other repair estimates.
Of course, if the leak is at the roof deck level, some exploratory surgery and repair will be necessary.
Really great job man. You definitely know your shit. I do this exact same thing for a living in CA where it's over 100 for many days out of the summer. My dad and brother would always tell me, "There's alot of bad roofers out there."
Those guys likely used the shingle-tops for the starter, and then used the remainder for some other area, like that pipe flashing.
Looking forward to more repair videos, keep it up brother
He sure as hell was smoking lots of it that’s what happens when you get guys that think their roofers I’ve been on the roof for over 25 years now and love every day of it nice little trick with the pry bar so you don’t cut the next shingle like so many of guys do
Wear a harness dude... I lost a friend of mine, who was a roofer. He fell off a 2 story house. Died 2 days later. It happens so easy. Wear a harness please.
Agree... tennis friend about 25+ years ago was a roofer who fell and died.
You seem knowledgeable enough. So if you want to upload some new content I’d be interested in you should show something difficult. Not basic valley, roof Jack, basic stuff. I wanna see you transition from flat to steep with 3 valleys and one chimney wout replacing steep roof. That’s what I’m doing now. Or waterproof nightmare area under an eave. Or terminate a roof to stucco wall over someone’s back porch wout breaking stucco out so they don’t have to pay twice as much to have there morning coffee wout getting wet. Maybe show how to best way reshingle step flashing wout being about to remove them. Us roofers know theres the perfect way to do everything and the ideal conditions. Sometimes money and time don’t allow. Don’t get me wrong. I never will install any roof wout feeling it can 20+ years. Anyways. That’s my rant. If you wanna interest us pros do something that you don’t know how you are gonna do until you start doing it. Best way to put it
I am looking to install new stove vent thru an apartment roof that will be reshingled, new decking if needed. The roofers don't do the construction. The Box stores dont have much roof boots to choose from. I want a quality boot and instructions on how to put it on before new roof. (ir during strip off) ? your thoughts?
Ideally yes you want to do it at the same time or very close to. This is typically what we use for a stove vent. You can usually find them at Lowes and Menards.
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I love your videos. I learn a TON. A couple of years back I got a new roof installed on my home during the winter ❄️. Yikes I was sweating all winter long I Some how stumbled upon one of your videos. I’ve been hooked ever since !! Pretty much have watched them all !!!
Dam needed I new vent for my bathroom didn't know how to go about installing one. Now I know the right way
This is a sound repair. Being an architectural sheet metal worker ive come across plenty of botched flashing jobs by roofers and carpenters. No drip edges, lack of stripping flashing in, exposed screws in valley flashing, lack of a proper metal cricket or shingle. Step flashing done wrong. Exposed faced nails in shingles and so on. Glad to see someone sticking to his trade doing what he knows best 👍
I like your style good job
You call it. A cluster fuck
Been watching your vids for a while now and I really appreciate a couple of things - one is that you are conscientious and pay attention to details even if it is inconvenient to do so. That shows character which, unfortunately, is in short supply - not necessarily owing to COVID. Second is related to the first - you care that a job is done correctly. Slipshod work seems to be pretty common in roofing (actually any trade) and I'm glad to see someone who doesn't settle for second rate.
you probably dont care at all but does any of you know a tool to log back into an Instagram account??
I stupidly forgot the password. I appreciate any help you can give me!
@Roy Derrick Instablaster =)
@Jase Harold thanks for your reply. I found the site thru google and im in the hacking process atm.
Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
@Jase Harold it did the trick and I now got access to my account again. I'm so happy:D
Thanks so much, you really help me out !
@Roy Derrick No problem :D
Good to see someone who takes pride in work not a roofer do commercial refrigeration and see a lot of hacks in my line as well good to see there are people who take pride in what they do not to look good but to do it right because it’s the right thing to do
Just liked and subscribed. Good work young man. I did construction for years. My roofing days are over. I used to get sucked into 6 or so roofing jobs per year helping friends and family. Small crew usually multiple days per roof job. Quality not speed should be the focus. I was taught by old timers and grew on my own with the newer methods and products introduced to the craft. I don't know many roofers who have to go to the gym.
i sold my house this year and while in the attic i noticed my pipe like this had been dripping into the insulation under it in the very corner of the house. i could of left it and said fuck it. it was so far in the corner no one would of ever crawled there to look. but over time this would of went down the bathroom wall and caused major water damage for the buyer and rotted everything in its path. the buyer was extremely nice when he looked at the house and i made a moral decision to have my friend who was a roofer come over and fix it up and pay him a surprise bonus since the house was switching over in a week. if the buyers were a assholes i prob would of left it on purpose. lord knows i needed that money. so let that be a lesson of kindness and how far it stretches.
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Very nice work chief!!. Clean clear, concise. New subscription to your channel. Merry Christmas.
I did roofing and siding when I was younger, I dabbled in a few trades before I settled on carpentry.
I've been working for myself as a handyman and I want to get back to working for someone else and with a crew again.
I saw an ad looking for a journeyman roofer with commercial experience, that's not me but I applied anyways, I'm a journeyman carpenter with roofing experience, but mostly residential.
Well, I didn't get the job, but I did find out that position paid $65 an hour. (It's a traveling job so per diem too)
So I just landed a job as a traveling roofing laborer with a commercial roofing company. I'm going to get that commercial experience !!!
And in 6 months to a year I should be pulling down that $65. 🤑
You make it look easy! Great video and lots of great info! I hope you get a billion subscribers... You deserve it.
Nice repair man I do my pipes the same exact way but sometimes I use metal roofing screws on the bottom of the pipe boot metal so they won’t pull out like nails do sometimes if the decking isn’t that good, in your case the decking looks solid so nails are fine, it’s good to see other roofers like yourself that cares to do a good job unlike a lot of other roofers out there
Went from watching pressure washing videos, to being recommended lawn care videos and now being recommended roof repair videos.
No plastic flashings on a roof! Trouble in the making after a few years of sun. Wow what a mess hiding under the extra shingles someone thought was a good idea. Your repair looks great and leak free.
Personally I like the repair videos like these ones but some new stuff I’d like to see is like 20 minute videos of you driving around doing multiple repairs like “repair day” kinda thing.. if that makes sense
Stick to roofing if that’s a plumbing stack vent you can’t cover it warm moist air it will condensate under the cap and will ice up blocking the vent that’s illegal in the plumbing code must always be left unobstructed
Would an elbow work instead of the cap? Just curious, i know it may look funny but the main idea is to prevent water from flowing into the pipe
$5 pipe boot where the rubber seals deteriorated in the summer months here in Texas. no bueno. Lead boots one piece sleeve, $30. Best quality. You must be up north. New subcriber
There’s nothing wrong with changing course once you start ripping into the roof. If the pipe boot isn’t the problem I would ask the homeowner if they still want it replaced. In that situation changing it for a metal one is a good idea especially since you’re going to warranty it for a year.
I just liked and subscribed. Great video kind sir! I look forward to learning with you for a long while. --chris @ EcoFarmstead
would like to see more right way to use flashing.
Been a roofer for thirty years. I feel ya pain.
I like that hammer
I enjoy watching but is every roof the worst roof ever?
No they're just all equally bad in their own way
You make it look easy brother!! I enjoy watching your vids. Always informative and well explained. Thanks!!
Your lucky it was cold. Would be next to impossible to service those Durations on a hot sunny day.
hint don't use the plastic boots on your venbts . I have had to replace my plastic ones 2 times and this time put metal ones in
We call it "hacking" around here lol. Lot of hackers that make us money though. Keep up the good vids.
Really appreciate the knowledge. Thanks for taking the time to share.
I like to leave a space to around flashing and skylights and such
No one knows what they like. I mean how many of these people would of guessed they'd be watching a roofing video today. Just put out good interesting content and we'll watch it. The more interesting and informative the better. Vent pipe collars and other random things most people don't think of are especially interesting because most people don't know how they work or how they're installed. If you can get more videos on unique repairs or stuff people don't know much about those are the videos I like to watch.
Happy Labor Day.
At my company we use IWS around all penetrations. I like yur vids tho bud. u seem very knowledgeable. im an Indiana native also.
Thanks! Where do you live?
@@GrandRoofingInc I live in Fairmount but work in Marion and Indianapolis area.
Meh...mediocre
Cheap materials and cheap labor....for premium price. That's housing in USA.
Im happy he's getting money on the side from youtube, honestly he is wholesome
Seems like a genuinely good guy, not swearing every second word either which gets really old fast
@@Beandiptheredneck yup
Great video
On that style of vent cap, could you have drilled the vent pipe with holes for the bolts to snug into so that it definitely wouldn't crack the pipe?
Great how to video - keep them coming....
Excellent content by going thru the whole job. By editing videos to cut time, will defeat the purpose of showing the entire process, which makes for a good job and might hurt your "reputation" as being a good roof repairman, if you get bad reviews because viewers think you were cutting corners. Split lengthy videos and that gives an option for the more experienced viewers.
Someone viewing that is not experienced in roofing at all, could possibly mess up their job and cost them more money in the end, to fix the damage.
Just like car repair videos, when you follow steps to do a repair and they either didn't include this step or edited it out to cut length.
Sometimes special tools are required and they neglected to tell you about it. So you either go buy this tool or bring it to a mechanic.
I think they call this; being caught between a rock and a hard place and you don't want to be there!
Thanks for your great video! ' *****'
Good Luck, and wish the best of luck with your channel. Shoot for a million subscribers...and "Don't Give Up!". You will make it!!!
You really don't need to put a cap on plumbing vents. The rain's just going to go down in the sewer anyway. I nail bottom edges, but I put a blob of sealant under the aluminum where I'm gonna nail too then a little blob on top and push it down a bit. Then I paint the pipe to match the boot and whatnot.
Been wanting to see roof repair lately... you’re gonna be a big TH-camr I’m just telling you something you already know ... Ain’t I???
Nice man 👍
I just found the channel I really like it
It's good to see good honest contractor's out there sharing there skills keep up the great job👍👍
Great video. Same place my leak is at. Nice to see a pro at work trying to help others. Thank you.
What a very dizzying video! I felt nauseous after watching it. Also, don't nail the bottom flange... completely unnecessary.
Would love to hear a video on the money side of things as a roofer, such as retirement or investments etc.
I use an old school shingle remover instead of a flat bar. I makes life so much easier. Mine was home made by an 80 year old roofer that passed on to me.
Easy to follow, thanks for the extra tips 😀
In Montréal. We usé galvinized sleeve wiht cap.plastic Ruber crack whit cold an heat
We need bad roofers ... we wouldn’t have anything to fix
Real roofers have a bone pile of you don't know what a bone pile is the sir you are not a FUCKIN ROOfER like myself!!
Special thanks for the vented dome pipe cover idea...totally unaware.
I picked up the same Oatey but in plastic. Is there a reason why I should have picked the metal one? Excellent video!👌
I'm not a fan of the plastic because they crack.
@@GrandRoofingInc that's what I thought probably won't make it through the winter...thanks for your reply
@@carold.7907 They don't always crack but I have seen them crack. That's why i'm not a fan of them. When they do you don't know until you have a leak.
Those pipe flashings are shit in canada there huge and wide so there deep to each side.. dude I see a mistake u make and I'm sorry to say it, but your doing it less than 4 inches on the cuts, specifically around a pipe I like to have it 6" apart but it needs to be at least 4" this type shingle if I'm correct is 5" apart for a cut. In canada we use epdm under the pipe flashing for high winds and ice back up. I'm sorry but you should caulk the around the pipe they say no, but that will open up with the sun in about a year so is best to caulk. Again your flashings are very short edges so that is not so good could it be that is a cheaper one, I'm asking??
The plastic is better than the aluminum it last longer and the animals will not get at it if installed right. Aluminum the raccoons rip it and the sun will make the pain all blah within a short time now that's the experience I have seen in canada the same with aluminum vents this is why I never use it.