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Don't let this discourage you from learning and trying to improve, you don't have to be a grandmaster to love and appreciate the intricacies of the game.
Very well said!
Good thing too. I'm just really getting serious in the last year and am enjoying it. I'm 700 and would like to make 1500 in the next several years. I think 1200 is more likely
@@Factchecker9111 you can totally do it! I was 700 a year ago and now I am almost at 1700! I just watched some educational content from gothamchess and started watching Naroditsky too at like 1200, did puzzled almost every day, studied one opening for white and two for black (one for e4 and one for d4) and improved really fast like that :D
@@Factchecker9111 Listen mr william if the King 👑Hans niemann says you can do it! there is no doubt about it! 💯
wow this is really inspiring... Can you drop the link to any material you used?
There are less than 2000 GM in the world. The answer is almost no one can become a GM
Chess was nowhere near as popular as it is now. Years ago, it was multiple times less known abd all GMs are from rhat time because it takes years to become a GM, soon we'll have an explosion of prodigies because of the 2020 boom of chess
@@volty3454 that soon may come 20 years later when we are olf as f***
@@rahuldhakal2844 maybe for an explosion of GMs but prodigies show in just a couple years
Sample size fallacy. How many play and study for years to even give themselves a chance to be one? Your comment only makes sense if everyone tried, and then there were 2000. As it stands, only a small number even play seriously.
@@nossenkanter The question in the video was "if anyone can come a grandmaster. There are 8 billion anyone's in the world and only 1700 plus GM's. Doesn't matter how many tried or play. That wasn't the question.
Frank boutta prove them wrong💪
Who
Yes
Frank is already a Gm
@@Jonathan-mr8pz man lives on Mars
@@DanfoxGD who is it
okay, just turned 15, theres still hope
Gotta start now tho get on it already
@@Atataititrebuisateuiti how to train tho? Just learn gambits and read books?
@@Absolute-. play games, analyse them, watch better players play, try joining your local chess club (this one is the best option)
@@Atataititrebuisateuiti oh okay I guess I need to watch more games then, thanks bro
@@gmmilos alright man I will get started thanks for the advice👍😁
"its hard to become a gm after the age of 11" rip the shattered hopes
I don't know maybe he meant start playing chess not being gm level good at it.
@@RadikatMLG I wouldnt say impossible, there are always people who make "impossible" things, possible. The chance is just very low.
@@andreasr979those grandmasters made it a profession. Their life is only chess.
Only few can dedicate life to chess if they already have structured everything in life away from chess
"Yeah it's hard but not impossible"
You know that's not true, but if you believe in it then dig your own grave
I remember when I started learning chess at around 12-13 years old, my chess teacher told me, I have a chance to became pretty good but I'm too old to ever become a grandmaster. This single sentence affected me so hard as a kid, after that day I lost all motivation to play the game, I started skipping lessons and eventually stopped attending entirely and never played competitively ever since. Even if it's not realistic to achieve a goal like that, you should never tell a kid that they started too late.
there's a similar story about another player who plays good chess.. and when he was a kid, his dream was to be a grandmaster, and his coach told him "you'll never become a grandmaster" ever since that day he lost motivation to study.. he takes less lessons than usual.. but even to this day he still plays chess
Damn…I hope you started playing again, not to become a gm but just for the enjoyment of chess
Whats your rating rn?
Well someday we can become IMs and understand Levy's pain by not reaching GM LOL
EDIT: Of course he can reach Grandmaster level he just needs to believe in himself.
He still could reach GM but his mental blocks are 🔒🔒
Isn't he a gm now
@@joelmiller3218no lol
@@themaro1024 Yeah I was bamboozled by his april fool's video. Damn it Levy
Let Levy milk all the views till the chess craze lasts and then he'll move on to classical chess.
I started playing at 29 during the pandemic and I am getting close to 2000 rapid on Lichess. A long way from the top but still proud of my progress
how long did it take you to get 2000?
@@coffeman7900he said "pandemic".
So like 2 years? Just my guess.
Giving me hopes
To be a gm it is really helpful to start young because your whole thinking develops around it and actual neural pathways are build to support the "chess thinking". So yea you have huge advantage starting young vs for example at age 25 when the brain is fully developed
*when
I'm teaching my 4 year old sister the basics rn. I think she's learning pretty fast, obviously not anything too special, but she already knows how every piece moves and captures more or less.
She's just like me, I know how to move every piece and how to capture. I am 18 :)
@@timepass4783 yeah I just started learning legit openings and stuff a few months ago and I'm 16 😂
@@kingsquashI also strated at 16 but I'll work hard now newly turning 17 IA.
I'm 52, started playing early but with my father and never practiced. Now I've been playing and reading and studying daily. I just reached 1100 on the SocialChess and this video, although speaking the truth, destroyed me!!
i could never imagine myself playing this game
competitively
Hey, if you want it, you go get it.
Chess is kind of like learning a language. You can improve at any age but starting young is definitely better.
Lol. Learning a language is something any human can do. Becoming a GM is something almost no human can do. Big difference
@@toziassmitt What I mean is that there's an element of starting young when it comes to the acquisition of both skills. If you want to become really good at chess or a language, it's important to start young. As for chess vs. language, huge sample size discrepancy. In chess, not many people stick with it, are serious, and actually put in the required training. A guy like Gotham Chess could've been a GM, he just didn't put in the work.
@@tenningaleel prize in phisycs is more challenging, and people still do it after 30+
@@xahst yeah, so you’ve proved my point lol. Realistically if you’re over 30, it ain’t happening. More to the point, why would you even want it to happen? The amount of effort needed is far beyond the returns. Achieving GM is cool but the top guys spend their life doing it, basically
Don’t give me such hope…
Ikr
Yeah when he said 15 a fire was lit underneath me
Yeah
I started when i was 11 and jn 1 year i am already almost 1200
@@itamarowak Thats honestly super impressive, good luck on your further chess journey
@@bored_chimpanzee nah
But I started at 23 and happened that I’m intuitive now I’m at 2100 currently looking to qualify as gm 💀
Why lie in a TH-cam comment section? So dumb lmao
How many years past since you started ?
I think we are seeing a revolution in chess as now it can be played and studied much more regularly now that it is online. I think we will see many new IM's and even GM's who are older than they have been in the past
I'm almost 50 and just started playing Chess, I don't care about being the best, just as long as I can win a few games and keep slaughtering all the new players.
Savage 😂😂
You don’t have to be a GM. I started at 30 and reached around 1500. Already happy with myself even though I will never become a master.
Phisher said that chess is just memorization.
To become a master you just need a couple more hundreds. Totally doable
@@kairatkempirbaev7183 A couple of more hundreds? You need a FIDE rating of 2,500 to be a grandmaster
@@kairatkempirbaev7183it's just memorization lol. Fischer said that when he was crazy
@@blacksocrates5071i think hes referring to kaster titles like candidate master and stuff like that
If your goal was to make people not want to play chess then mission accomplished.
They’re answering honestly. You want them to lie to you, in order to make you feel better?
@@toziassmitt someone might feel inspired and actually put in the effort and outdo theirself you just never know
@@vincense555 I mean, it’s not true though lol
time will tell fs@@toziassmitt
I ll start playing chess when I get retired (because I don't have time for it now) and I will become a GM. Will keep you posted !
lol good luck
What’s so hard about becoming a gm later on in life? It’s not like becoming an athlete where you just cannot physically compete as you get older. You just need to have the willingness to study chess and the time to play 1000s of hours
I feel like people just don't understand how this reality works just because something isn't common doesn't mean it isnt possible. 😂😂
Nah imma start at 25 and be a GM 😈
I started at idk when but i only started to find it intriguing not so long ago. Getting a candidate master title is now on my bucket list
I feel like this is less about the age you start and more about how much time you put into it. The younger you are, the more time you have, it's the opposite when you get older. When you get older you have responsibilities to take care of and not nearly as much time as before, but if you can find a way to make time to study chess I feel like you could absolutely become a GM, way later than the age of 15. It all depends on the time you put into it.
5 hours a day, over one year, is around 2,000 hours. Let’s agree that from 5-18 you usually have around 5 hours free per day to practice- that’s 26,000 hours of practice that someone who started at 5 years old will have, over, someone who started at 18. For the 18 year old to catch up, even if they study chess for 8 hours a day (!), and literally do nothing else with their life but study chess… would take 8 and a half years of studying chess non stop every day. That’s just to catch up with the kid who is now 18- now think, that child prodigy 18 year old isn’t even a GM yet (likely) and it will take him years to reach GM. Are you getting now a sense of how important it is to study as a child? Those free hours, those long days of no work, no rent, no stress, just free time… they’re invaluable. All this is without even mentioning the fact that when you’re younger you pickup things faster and hold onto them easier as they form foundations in your mind- it’s much easier for a 12 year old to learn something than a 32 year old
first, people don't believe how high level a person can achieve, next they can't comprehend how much work it takes.
well its not much about what you think, its known empirically that you have more brain plasticity young. Its not mainly about time.
It would be nice if this is how it worked but I'm afraid not. If it was you would have 35 year olds who started playing through covid or something and realized how good they were and climbing the world's elite, that doesn't happen. Trying to teach someone over 60 even the rules is difficult. Your brain has to be wired correctly from youth, then it can perform well even when old. But if it's something completely new old brains can't learn it - you can't teach an old dog new tricks. It's like how when the internet came out first hardly any elderly people ever used it, it was double-dutch to them. Now they all use it, because they were young enough to pick it up when it first started getting mainstream.
I start chess 15 and i want to became gm and im 16 rn and im pretty good but he rlly destruct my confidence even i wasnt that confident but he completely destroyed it
I came out of the womb with a chessboard now I will be GM
Oh yeah? Well I was conceived ON a chessboard.
@@christopherwellman2364 Oh yeah? Well I was born a chessboard.
I’m starting to get better at 14 now so I still have hope🤣
You got so much time... stop it.
To even things out, how good are grandmasters at dancing, cooking, painting, carpentry, and a whole slew of other things? People that put time into things and are willing to learn will become good at things. Some are great at one thing, some are good at a few things, most are OK at a lot of things. Just the way it is.
Actually very interesting, would like to hear more opinions on this.
Any GM would agree that you have to start in childhood to reach GM. Beyond those in this video, Magnus, hikaru and Kasparov have all talked about this before
Me at 21 who started to learn chess a few weeks ago 🫠
That's bloody depressing! 😂 I'm 40 and only started playing last year 🤣 I started on 400 went down to 100 and on around 900 now. Still have hopes for the GM. Don't take it away from me 😂
I don’t think a GM currently exists who started playing after 30 lol
@@toziassmitt everything is possible my friend!
@@danielkolasinski2626 so you’ll be the first ever GM in history who started learning chess after 30? ….lol.
@@toziassmitt I don't think I will get to half of GM tbh 🤣 But considering how popular chess became over the last few years I think it is very possible that this will happen to someone.
@@danielkolasinski2626 it won’t
I really doubt it with the current level of competition becoming a gm after starting at 15 is almost impossible unless you are a genius
You cannot nor should you place an age on the human mind and its ability to learn. To even consider a prerequisite starting age for someone to become a GM is unknowingly placing a barrier on your own mind and bidding others to accept the same.
That's called being real. You can't expect to be one of the best in the world at something if you haven't started at a young age or if you aren't a phenom
You'll never be a boxing world champ if you were 25 the first time you put gloves on
@chocobarre3178 sure it's real but why should you have to believe it if it will hold you back. If its reality then so be it but let us make the best move on the chess board in a bad position
I'm 19 started a month ago, i play for fun
Personally my main goal is reaching 1500, I feel like that is a very respectable rating. I'm 1120 now and started at 20
You got this, easily I am sure. With consistent play. I was prob 800 when I started taking it seriously 4 years ago, now I am roughly 1700. Good luck to you!
Where have u reached
@@tirthlakhani9515 1230 now
@@whybothertry8642how old are u now ?
@@marisacillahi1537 I'm still 20 aha, 1320 now
And here I am getting down on myself for not being as good as these TH-camrs when I literally started playing casually a year ago lol
You’ll never be as good as the botez sisters lol. Just accept that fact and move on, it’s life
Started @22 years . In a year i went up to 800 elo i started @ 250 elo i havent been playing alot lately ill probably play like 2-3 games per week currently 999 elo highest elo i reached was 1100 something. Just been a chess player for a year couple months . Dont let it discourage you . I feel like anyone can be a gm . But yea you do get a head start when u start at a young age
I started playing chess at the age of 23, Now I am rated 1950 FIDE. I doubt I will ever surpass the 2000 mark lol
Me being 16: damn I guess its over
Tempted to become the first GM that started at 20
I didn't learn chess until my last year of college; trust me when I tell you that's way too late to expect to ever be very good after then. Chess is like a language, if you learn it late, you'll always have that accent and stumble, you never see the board as "one," and playing doesn't flow easily. You have to learn at an early age--no later than 8, imo.
8 is a little early I think, there are too many exceptions, like Boris Alterman, grandmaster who started at age 19. I think 15 is probably pretty much on point in most cases, if the person really wants to learn, is enthusiastic and not completely untalented.
Boris Alterman started playing age 7, was IM at 21, and GM at 22.
@@markpodlesak7204 Youre right, lol, dont know where I got that information from, but I still stand with my opinion
@@bored_chimpanzee mmm I wonder how many persons have learnt the moves of chess at 15 or after and went on to reach Grandmaster level in say the last 20 years?
@@markpodlesak7204 Firstly, why so aggressive? All I did was say that I dont think its impossible, to become a really good player, even if you start later in life. Answering to your question, in the last 20 years, none, but if you go back a little bit there are certainly many great players who started in their young to late teens, like Ye Jiangchuan or Mikhail Botvinnik. Ive never said that im 100% sure, but if a person is talented and under the right circumstances, im pretty sure its possible to become a IM or even GM, why wouldnt it? However, thats just my opinion, so yeah, do with this whatever you want lol
U don't have to be a grandmaster to love the game, but it is cool.
Bro starting to play chess id different than going to comps and actually learning it !!
Becoming a grandmaster and becoming a jedi has the same qualifications
My friend is rated approximately 2300, and he started playing chess just a year ago is it rare or normal? he is just 16 years old and he started playing chess when he was 15
see how the approach (3rd gm) of looking away and down and overall avoiding eye contact approach makes the interaction wierd and little uneasy for everyone
solution : 1st gms approach ( JUST BLINK NATURALLY IF YOU FEEL AWKWARD BUT DON'T LOSE DIRECT EYE CONTACT AND HAVE THAT KIND OF PERSONA)
Welp, here I am picking up the chess habit at 38, watching this video and thinking I'm doomed to noob status now 😅
Same here, I'll be 40 this year!
Not being a grandmaster certainly doesn't make you bad!
so there is some hope
As a 15 year old who started playing chess december last year, that last GM gave me hope
Last one gives me hope as a 15 year old.
She sounds like a robot asking those questions
There's GMS who never played till later in life and became GMS
Food for thought: one wins lottery, quits work or school and focuses on chess fulltime.
Lol tari & her are too much beauty & hotness in the same frame. 😂
I'll prove Nils wrong. Am 23 and since I started 2 years ago,I've broken many records on my way to gm.Just crossed 500 elo after some relapse.
Just getting FM (2300 FIDE) is hard enough 😅
I just caught up to one of these people who have played since 6 and hover around 2300. I started at around 21-22? I had no talent, but grinded 20+ bullets per day for 5 years. Every 500-1000-2000 games you figure something out randomly, progressing you forward by 100 points or so. mindless grind. :D
I start chess in 26 and ever reach 1700
To master Chess, you do not need to have a high IQ.
To become a Grandmaster, you do; however, it is not a must to be good at chess if you are intelligent. In fact, your chess ability mostly depends on practice, and not intelligence. I know that IQ is not a great way of measuring intelligence; however, you can see that most chess gms do not have high IQs.
Magnus and Bobby are around 190, Kasparov is 135 and Hikaru is only around 102. Most of the others are in between 100-120 scorewise (average).
Me starting at the age of 24 😂😂 damn
Frankly, if you becoming good enough to be a grand master, you probably aren’t enjoying the game anymore
Yes, chess at that level gets more boring as it becomes more strategic and opening theory based and less tactical
i started playing this year, I'm over 20, I'll become gm, wish me luck :)
You won’t, but I hope you enjoy the journey of trying brother
You can bro
Let's be real, that thumnail is pay back to Anna after she beat the Botez's 😂😂
Might as well give up I'm staring at 26 lol
I started at 14, that means I actually have a chance
Orbital racer gonna prove them wrong
I guess now, with that amount of information on the internet, you can become a gm even later in life.
currently 22 and just started learning chess.. i just hit 800 last night and that was such an achievement bc I was in 300-ish couple months ago and i feel slowly improved but still i really enjoyed playing chess, i love the game and I wish im ready to start defeating the grandpas out there😂
I started when I was like 8 or 9 , played every now and then growing up, but never studied chess until 2018. If I had spent those 20 years studying I’d be way better by now.
Oh, someone says 11, another says 15.. well I say 78.. and this is a !! Move
It's about improvement and understanding of the game.
Enjoy the game and it's nuances.
I'm cooked. Yeah I started early, but I took 30 years off in the middle.
Dang, I have a x2 negative chance.
What's the oldest anyone has reached GM status, I wonder 🤔
GM Finegold
@@tikilanichols8023 Thanks. Looks like Ben was about 40 when he became a GM.
Anna cramling !!! Love her so much ❤❤❤❤❤
it’s mental. you can do it at anytime as long as your mind and body healthy
Then please show us sir
I hope to see you at the WSOP this year Alex..❤😘🤩
Ah so give up on that dream, gotcha
Im fourteen, there's still hope
What counts as "Start playing", cause I've been playing chess with my grandma since 4 or something. I kept playing in school to the age of 10 maybe. Then for a long period of time i haven't been playing cause my classmates stopped being interested in playing the game so did i, and i started my new journey only at 16-17. Like I don't have an intension to become a Grandmaster in next 10 years, but it still sound unwell for me.
If you ain’t playing when you can’t speak, then GM is not you’re peek.
This is why Anna is one of my favorites lol
Chigorin was 24 when he took up chess seriously
I started learning chess when i was 32, so I guess its just a dream to even become an IM😂😂😂 Much more on a GM😂😂😂😂
When you're 16: 😭 fu*k it
It all depends on how much you dedicate yourself
Not really. It’s simply a matter of time. 10-18 is 8 years. That person who studied from 10-18 will have an 8 year advantage over the 18 year old who starts tomorrow. Doesn’t matter how dedicated you are, that 8 year gap will always be there. Also, those are the prime years. Adults have to work, pay bills, do laundry, make meals, pay bills, etc. It’s not feasible for most adults to study chess 5 hours a day, but for kids, it’s absolutely possible and happens across the world. So in your 8 years, it’s highly likely that you’re not going to put in as many hours as the younger kid did
him: it is harder to become a grandmaster if you start playing chess over 11
me who started playing at 13: _So i have no future_
This is true for everything. You can’t become a master at an instrument if you don’t play it all your life, or a top rated athlete in any sport for example. But that doesn’t mean you can’t become good, or even super good, just because you cannot become the best of the best.
6 YEARS
Me: “I started playing when I was 5 years old, I took a break for 2 years and now I’m at 600 elo at 13”
Started at 17, damn, gotta get on the grind
Still possible💪
The most grounded 2100
Anna Cramling
You dont have to be a grandmaster to enjoy chess. dont forget, you have a life outside chess
I started playing at the age of 6. Till my 16 years, my peack raiting was 1150 then suddenly boom and in 6 months i became 1600.
First learned the rules for chess when I was 4. Made my own pieces for a set when I was 13.
At the age of 28, my current ELO is ... 350. But it's still fun, and I found out I'm okay at woodworking.
As a dude I feel like my only shot at becoming really good was getting super into chess before I hit puberty but unfortunately I found out girls weren’t gross first. 11 sounds pretty reasonable. Too much other shit takes up space in your brain from age 12-13 onwards. You need the chess worm to burrow in first.
2100 lmao
I have a brain injury. Was 1500 before went down to 800 back at 1300
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