4 Mistakes you might be making on Leoric

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  • @lordslug182
    @lordslug182 5 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    5th mistake: not having 10 deaths by 9th minute

    • @Q_z_
      @Q_z_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Trait value!!!

    • @qraCzz
      @qraCzz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      LEORKY

    • @EugenethePhilostopher
      @EugenethePhilostopher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Monster Mash you cannot kill that which has no life!

    • @maddoxdustin9999
      @maddoxdustin9999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i know Im randomly asking but does someone know of a trick to log back into an instagram account?
      I was stupid lost my login password. I love any help you can offer me!

    • @danebruno4238
      @danebruno4238 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Maddox Dustin Instablaster :)

  • @GearWo1f
    @GearWo1f 5 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Never occurred to me to use the E to body block during entomb, that's actually so useful

    • @cardsharpHS
      @cardsharpHS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A lot of things Paradox tells me never occurred to me. That's why this channel is so useful!

    • @tabula_rosa
      @tabula_rosa 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      use it on alarak when he goes to discord strike you too, it's super obvious when he's going to do it, you can cancel it as soon as the blow hits without needing to even move and it makes me happy imagining him getting pissed off thinking the game just didn't register

  • @abmo32
    @abmo32 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    TL,DR: You can use entomb like a force wall. slow with Q to hit W easier. Use your E for safe body block. Be smart with your crits and AOE for better wave clear.

  • @phantomphil_ffr
    @phantomphil_ffr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    another tip is to try and time your Q to hit when the enemy laner is standing close to the minion wave since your Q gets half the cooldown and mana refunded when hitting heroes. this gets you the entire wave cleared free of cost while also bullying the laner out like you mentioned. also wanna mention as a GM leoric main myself, this video was explained very well and i even learned a couple things, cheers friend :D

    • @andy_v2904
      @andy_v2904 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ooh nice for early early game. after you pick up the peasants talent though you get it from minions anyways

  • @ambarussa769
    @ambarussa769 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    12:28 I see you provide solid arguments xD

  • @BN99239
    @BN99239 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    You need to go over Leoric's abilities when he's dead, since most Leoric players tend to use these abilities much more often than the abilities when they're alive!

  • @Tridalwave
    @Tridalwave 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    By the way, Level 16 talent says "For each enemy hit by skeletal swing", you can wraith walk, end it and then skeletal swing hitting 2 people and reduce the cooldown to 0.

  • @Macfierce1
    @Macfierce1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome guide. I learned a TON from this. Thanks for posting. Your videos are all really great.

  • @tiraraymond6629
    @tiraraymond6629 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just started getting into Leoric. Thank you!

  • @dtarchon
    @dtarchon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a really good video. The W after Q is a great tip, not to mention explaining a build that can make a huge difference in 5v5 team fights. The only major mistake I see not mentioned, is Leoric players having the tendency to take too much damage on the frontline and dying for nothing, especially during objectives, since they can "lurk" around and resurrect.

  • @dante4569dante
    @dante4569dante 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This vid is fantastic! I like when you do longer videos to discuss every thing properly. Well done :D

  • @GuardianTactician
    @GuardianTactician 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two years after this video came out, we have discovered the 6th mistake people make as Leoric:
    Picking Entomb when up against Hogger.

  • @JWelson9980
    @JWelson9980 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Blew my mind with those entomb pointers!

  • @infraredxray
    @infraredxray 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    imo spec'ing him for waveclear is risky because if you need to carry with him it is better to sacrifice some waveclear and make your Q and AA better for healing. Skeletal mace healing plus auto healing and auto attack speed and march of the dead make it so that all but one of his attacks can heal him. this allows him to completely dominate a team with 2+ melee but he also can chase down and slow escaping assassins. he can also show up somewhere that his potato teammates should be rotating to and start fighting before they get there to draw their attention and essentially 1v3 for quite some time while teammates get their head out of their ass. if he builds for team fight he can actually top every stat on his team including soak

  • @MortalReaver
    @MortalReaver 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When your team is running away and enemy is chasing, E behind them and use entomb, while you will probably die, you can avoid teamwipe.

    • @mwperk02
      @mwperk02 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nah bad trade gotta sacrifice your whole team for their king.

  • @Harbyz
    @Harbyz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When being ganked. I love to trow out my q w combo before going into wraiht. Also try to be unpredictable with going back to your hody. If you channel is to full duratio, you are predictable. And thus an easy target

  • @LegsON
    @LegsON 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing tips!
    Here are mine.
    1. I advice to use Wraith Walk when you need to switch lane or go somewhere quick, of course if you are sure you won't need it badly in 14 seconds. It's almost like Yrel's instant mount.
    2. I pick +15% damage and reduced CD on Drain Hope when I'm on Volskaya or versus Dragon Knight.
    3. I pick 2.5% hp bonus damage on 20 when I either need more sustain or they have 2 fat heroes or 3 melee heroes. Volskaya and Dragon Knight maps count too!
    4. When I'm sure I can't be AAing too much, I tend to pick Burning Rage on lvl 20. Makes squishy goddamn Hanzos, Jainas etc. suffer. :) Also helps vs Zagaras and stealth heroes.
    5. I love increased AA speed at 16. Pick it when I'm 100% sure I'm gonna pick Life Leech at 20. Or when I need even more waveclear or clearing shrines.
    6. Always pick increased range at 7 to keep my W on enemies and also bully or scare ranged enemies. Synergises really well with Burning Rage at 20!
    7. I always pick healing off dead minions. Don't forget you heal even when YOUR minions die! I heal even when I'm losing the lane, lol! Imho, this talent is crucial. You fight, get low hp, run away, go to minions, heal and get mana, come back. It also helps a ton when you are running away. So delightful to run away from Nova just passing by dying minions and getting healed just enough to survive her chase! :)
    I only pick healing on Q on the Battle Of Eternity.
    Never pick 30% healing with globes.
    8. March is good sometimes. Like when you have Mayev with the R cage.

    • @HimariHimatsu
      @HimariHimatsu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      those are playstyle preferences and you seem to play to lose the obj on volskaya and dragon shire, also %damage has a cap and does not actually drain 20% of vehicles

    • @LegsON
      @LegsON 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HimariHimatsu "ou seem to play to lose the obj"
      LOL NO.
      But it happens sometimes. Talent and strategy choices depend on whether you lose for the first several minutes, hold your ground or just stomp enemies.
      Maybe it doesn't do 20% off vehicles, but it seems 15% burst works just right.
      What is the cap, by the way?
      I think life leech works properly VS vehicles.

    • @HimariHimatsu
      @HimariHimatsu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LegsON www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4pvsyv/how_does_percent_damage_effect_the_dragon_knight/d4of9ml/

  • @VArsovski10
    @VArsovski10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What I'm always impressed about Leo is how SIMPLE yet how right/effective his kit feels and overall his gameplay.. I mean he felt "bland" too "specific" and kinda boring tbh, and then all (well mostly all) Blizz rework did is give him Crit on every 3rd auto.. Guess what = worked like a charm lol :D

    • @LegsON
      @LegsON 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That rework might be the best they ever did.
      Super flexible and all-aroud strong!

  • @Aurelius_911
    @Aurelius_911 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video Paradox:)

  • @Prinempal
    @Prinempal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much for this, NotParadox.

  • @Ph0neutria
    @Ph0neutria 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    1. Does "Fealty Unto Death" works in Infernal Shrines when those small minions die?
    2. And more important, does "Ominous Wraith" reduces the damage of the dragon in Dragon Shire and the damage of the robot in Volskaya Foundry?

    • @alextrollip7707
      @alextrollip7707 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fealty unto death only works on minions. Anything that isn't a lane minion is either a monster (ie immortal shrines objective lil guys) or mercenaries.
      So I assume not

  • @Mansour-wj6we
    @Mansour-wj6we 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yup I really like entomb more than March it give leoric something that he lacks some form off cc to set up kills or peel or even sometimes just zoning and at level 20 you have 3 sec silence On 50 Cooldown that can win you the game if you trapped at least 2 heroes

  • @jonahklerer8884
    @jonahklerer8884 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dope vid man, thanks

  • @hurrican225
    @hurrican225 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is really helpful! thanks Paradox!

  • @kuyashiix
    @kuyashiix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You didn't even talk about the Mithril Mace + Leach Life talents????? For those that don't know, Mithril Mace complete with Leach Life at 20 makes nearly any melee hero lose a 1v1 against Leoric, in fact, if the enemy is bad at kiting, you can sometimes even get 2 or 3 enemy heroes at a time with the potential heal back from these 2 talents alone. Leoric also becomes a really powerful win condition, he can sit right on the core while he's dead and when he respawns he can immediately start pressuring it and chunking it really hard. The enemy team is forced to go back and deal with him if they're not on your core by that time. Leoric is for sure one of those heroes that wins games if he hits 20.

    • @VArsovski10
      @VArsovski10 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's a reason why he didn't talk about it tbh, reducing enemy dps by 50% for 4 sec and having that up almost all the time is priceless compared to you becoming a lean mean killing machine :P
      I get the point, in fact I actually prefer the W cd reduction along with the crit of W, that way you become even more of a threat not even need to auto others in order to gain value, BUT, there's simply that = the E dps reduction is just far far far too effective to pass on.. Sometimes I think that talent should get nerfed tbh, not too much but start as 40% instead of 50%, should give some "leverage" to more talents to get picked imo

    • @HimariHimatsu
      @HimariHimatsu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's basically just a poor mans twinbrains varian that is kinda useless until 20

    • @DaGoomb
      @DaGoomb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      wraith walk build has more value, which is why its chosen over those talents you just mentioned

  • @Biskawow
    @Biskawow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm in que atm. Need tl;dr asap

  • @b3ntastic
    @b3ntastic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Is there a way to tell gold/silver players to focus the tank instead of the support.....?

    • @CoyoteXLI
      @CoyoteXLI 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nope.

    • @iCrazy414
      @iCrazy414 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      DIVE MORALES IGNORE THEIR STRONG FRONTLINE AND HIGH DMG OUTPUT -Every silver/gold player

    • @kuyashiix
      @kuyashiix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You and your team should be focusing whoever they can kill and whoever is offsides, not specific heroes, sure a heavy dive on a healer or strong DPS can make a team fight easier, but it's not always going to work, sometimes it's best to dive the tank or bruiser simply because it's a kill your team can secure. Think of it like football, whoever is closest to your team, that's the guy with the ball, your team should tackle him, not their backline. If you try this, I promise you will have more consistent results than shouting at your team to split away and dive backline or a specific hero within a 5/4 man.
      At the higher levels of HotS, telling your team to dive backline just gets you laughed at, you'll get told to uninstall and go back to LoL.

    • @Nathan-oe8ut
      @Nathan-oe8ut 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There should never be a 'aim this person' scenario. Hit whoever you CAN kill, if the tank is in a better position for you to target; target them. If the support is in a better position for you to target; target them. Anyone out of position should be punished.
      If you blindly focus the support, you will lose if they have proper positioning
      If you blindly focus the tank, you will lose if they have proper positioning
      Never 'aim' specific people. This is bronze mentality.

    • @b3ntastic
      @b3ntastic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Corpsefoot Gaming Yes I know, but what I have to play with is each player focusing on a different heroe and non of them understand how to soak and gain lane controll or experience...even chasing an enemy heroe, like I see that all the time that they chase for 30secs and get killed in the end and it's just eye cancer.

  • @Jyeoi
    @Jyeoi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The last part is assuming the enemy just sits there while yr W is on him.....

  • @seanalexander3400
    @seanalexander3400 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love keeping it up for the entire game. ;)

  • @Tessyc
    @Tessyc 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing guide, thx!!!

  • @Rethlit
    @Rethlit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who doesnt like the usual zoning ult
    10:57

  • @HimariHimatsu
    @HimariHimatsu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1. i honestly can't believe people would actually just throw out drain without any hit confirm unless they are new to mobas prehaps, but even then they can put 2 and 2 together
    2. you should almost never go the heal at 7 regardless of build with the exception of offlaners that has no way to avoid full drains such as varian or arthas, otherwise both the range and mov speed will help you to actually get a full drain 99% of the time
    3. something that you were not mentioning is using ghost form for hearthing and scouting, most people will just drain from people who are in lane and not really get any relevant information around the map, alternative what you can do is scout bushes and camps, and if your death timer is running out you can always hearth back to base in ghost form for a teleport so you don't int as soon as you respawn in case enemies are chasing

    • @LegsON
      @LegsON 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Extended range is crucial.
      I feel so much hate when I see someone picking anything else, lol!

    • @NotParadox
      @NotParadox  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      1. You would be surprised. The whole reason I made this was because I finished a coaching with this issue and it was not the only one.
      2. I mean normally I would say something like "cough cough highest win rate and popularity on hotslogs (52%) and highest winrate in pro play (72%)" But I think these talents are more situational than that. I just gave the talents I prefer. If you prefer something else at 7 take it. I find if I slow, I land my full drain without those level 7s and if I am going entomb lock someone, the extra healing reduces the chance I die while bodyblocking the entomb. But hey if you have more success with another, by all means, go for it.
      3. Great advice! thanks for adding it!

    • @qraCzz
      @qraCzz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I believe is situational as well, i like the healing but for example agains Garrosh i always take the range so that even if he throws me im still draining

    • @cardsharpHS
      @cardsharpHS 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not great at HotS by any means, but I knew point 1 without being told. And I always do 3 naturally, too. When I first entered ghost form my first thought was - I hope this also reveals information for my team wherever I move.

  • @jimshotfirst4887
    @jimshotfirst4887 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did somebody say P E R M A N E N T L Y S L O W ?

    • @julioiglesias8067
      @julioiglesias8067 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      this is not Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker. just stop.

    • @jimshotfirst4887
      @jimshotfirst4887 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@julioiglesias8067 what

    • @Amir-jn5mo
      @Amir-jn5mo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      FREE DAMAGE INTENSIFIED

  • @Wolverine30303x
    @Wolverine30303x 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Paradox! Great video as always. Could you give some tips on Kael'thas? Especially after the rework? I'm kinda confused which build would be know considered meta build.

    • @HimariHimatsu
      @HimariHimatsu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      the meta build is mana barrier, nether winds, spellpower, phoenix, pyromaniac, ignite/fury of the sunwell, flamethrower
      in the earlygame you want to look to clear waves with q d w, put q in the middle so it hits all minions and trait your living bomb on the globe minion and you should almost have a full clear without using much mana
      in fights you want to look to follow up on your tanks engage with D E Q W because a 1.5 sec stun that hits multiple people is ult level strong
      when in poke fights, empower living bomb to save mana
      basically 0 reason to do D Q since you shouldn't be using it without hit confirm anyways, only exceptions are at 20 with long range flamethrowers or fury of the sunwell and you are too lazy to do an efficient clear

    • @Wolverine30303x
      @Wolverine30303x 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HimariHimatsu I mostly follow what you've said. Although I choose Energy Roil instead of nether wind as the stun cdr is brutal.
      The main question is: when should I go Ignite and when Fury of the sunwell?
      Also the single target damage rotation slightly differs when one goes Ignite, doesnt it?

    • @HimariHimatsu
      @HimariHimatsu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wolverine30303x nether winds gives way longer range on your stun, could be argued that is just as brutal
      usually fury whenever zoning is needed, such as on shrines or braxis or sky, otherwise ignite is all around good
      less single target damage with fury because they won't stand still for a full 3 sec

  • @jirachiultime
    @jirachiultime 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey NotParadox! Thanks for your videos and tips! I told my friends about your channel.
    I don’t know if I am the only one having this problem, but I often come very close to the enemy team as a ranged assassin because I click near my targets and not on it... Same problem with targeted abilites such as Lt Morales Q, I feel like I used them but it is not the case so my allies die more often than theyqui should. It might look funny, but are there any tips to solve this issue?

    • @HimariHimatsu
      @HimariHimatsu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      use A instead of right clicking

  • @SithLandlord
    @SithLandlord 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like keeping it up for the entire fight too. ;)

  • @ryanwallace4204
    @ryanwallace4204 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!!

  • @filipsemancak2705
    @filipsemancak2705 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi NotParadox. I have played a lot of Falstad recently. I have nearly 70% win rate on him. But I still dont know when to go AA build and when to go w build. I would like to know when to choose mighty gust, because i prefer other ultimate. Good video i will buy Leoric next time :)

    • @mwperk02
      @mwperk02 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mighty gust is the default pick tbh. Hinterland blast has more niche uses largely due to the long windup time its pretty easy to dodge. So Hinterland works to combo with lockdown (big slows roots stuns) Or if you can use it in some narrow space like a chokepoint where the room to dodge is very limited. Atleast thats what I think. But I'm some nobody on youtube.

    • @filipsemancak2705
      @filipsemancak2705 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mwperk02 You are right, but i i choose hintering blast into Leorics entomg, E.T.C mosh pit, Diablos apocalypse... I think there are many wariors with good CC. I will try to play more migty gust. I stole a boss few times with it.

    • @HimariHimatsu
      @HimariHimatsu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      very often aa build, w if the map is very macro focused like sky temple or very rarely dragon shire
      hinterlands blast when you are going all in and don't want to save your whole team from dying/setting up big plays

  • @theblackshogun4711
    @theblackshogun4711 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @MrDproducer
    @MrDproducer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thnk u so much, keep the good work up man thnx to u and the ppl who keeps this game better and alive :)

  • @fobos132
    @fobos132 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My mistake was play Leo without watch this video, TY!

    • @cardsharpHS
      @cardsharpHS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same. I was doing it all wrong.

  • @tacoma87x
    @tacoma87x 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    notparadox ever created your own heroes?

  • @coreyholt8522
    @coreyholt8522 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i never noticed his mace glows when he has the crit.

    • @dorianvey6675
      @dorianvey6675 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Corey Holt Yeah, it is slightly difficult to notice when using some of his “flashier” skins. :(

  • @jeremiahs6718
    @jeremiahs6718 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Post a Getting in the mind of a GM Leoric pretty please

    • @HimariHimatsu
      @HimariHimatsu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's nothing special really, just double soak and spook the enemy team in fights, look for entomb on either a frontline or a support

    • @jeremiahs6718
      @jeremiahs6718 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HimariHimatsu okay thanks

  • @kaibe5241
    @kaibe5241 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do yo show the spell ranges before casting?!

    • @kuyashiix
      @kuyashiix 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      mouse over them in your hotbar, or just turn off quick casting.

    • @kaibe5241
      @kaibe5241 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kuyashiix No I think he does osmething else. He has quickcast on I'm fairly sure, but then holds something to show the spell area/range.

    • @NeverZitrone
      @NeverZitrone 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaibe5241 Cast on release, hold the button to see range

    • @kaibe5241
      @kaibe5241 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NeverZitrone aha! ty :)

  • @pacolito5955
    @pacolito5955 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i dont understand why use E in entomb .??? you cant do any damage to the enemy no? thx for your vids

    • @fazijslive
      @fazijslive 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      because it makes you unstoppable - you can't be moved out of the way and they can't get out of the tomb.

  • @SamuraiMotoko
    @SamuraiMotoko 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The biggest mistake I guess is going Match of the Black king. Is such a mistake that wasn't even mention ever in the video.

    • @HimariHimatsu
      @HimariHimatsu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      in some instances it is the correct ult to go, very often in higher levels of play tychus is a hard counter to leoric during fights so being able to quickly heal up is very powerful

    • @CoyoteXLI
      @CoyoteXLI 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah if you don't have enough burst to blow someone up the heal could sometimes be better. You can probably always find something good to do with tomb if you're good enough at using it though, hard to call it a bad pick.

    • @christianwise4227
      @christianwise4227 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      March is great for team fight damage and heal though, and At 20 it has a godlike talent that synergises with level 7 and 13/16; if you go down that route. it’s very satisfying seeing all those 15% crit dAmage

    • @fredericbrasseur7399
      @fredericbrasseur7399 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      March is a good choice when you need the extra surviability/CC immunity and the ennemy team needs to clump up for heals (exemple : Brightwing, Auriel, ...). It can also counter plays on some maps like Towers of Doom when you got a Falstad and Brightwing pushing you into tower range while punishing them for doing so.

  • @choonbox
    @choonbox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    First mistake people make is picking Leoric

    • @HimariHimatsu
      @HimariHimatsu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      leo is a great hero, arguably the best offlaner in the game, people just has no idea how to build or play him

    • @stephenkellett7836
      @stephenkellett7836 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You right they should pick Illidan instead

    • @HimariHimatsu
      @HimariHimatsu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@stephenkellett7836 illidan has less utility, less waveclear, less gank immunity, the only real upsides illidan has is the ability to splitsoak with a global

    • @stephenkellett7836
      @stephenkellett7836 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HimariHimatsu that's the joke. Illidan's usually a pick made by that guy who doesn't know what they're doing

    • @Karis35boy
      @Karis35boy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stephenkellett7836 *what he's doing. English grammar. So hard