@@NoombatIsMecause it's a relatively new comment and hasn't been seen by as many people. also, there's nothing to add. which is proven by your only response to be "why no comments" instead of something about the actual comment
Not Disney totally forgetting that Tangled has a whole ass kingdom called Corona, Tangleton made me gag a little bit as a fan of the movie and the show.
They do have the kingdom of Corona on the map, but I seriously have no idea what Tangleton is. Plus the map is kinda ridiculous and doesn't really make sense. (Though I doubt it was actually supposed to be looked over-)
can you imagine waking up after having died as a disney villain and it turns out they only resurrected you to put you on a *PRISON ISLAND* ?? And ALSO, any of your kids will be restricted to the prison island as well, like what the FUCK
Tbf, it's not like if those villains didn't deserve it. The kids on the other hand DID NOT. And I'm much more preocupied with stuff like imprisoning Monstro or, let's see what was it? Ah yes, the FRICKIN GOD OF THE UNDERWORLD!!!
Once I learned of it I immediately jumped to uma team which she had a point the entire time and was looking out for the isle while Mal was the opposite remind me why did we keep rooting for Mal after the first movie
@@madnessarcade7447 Even so, why is he not at all concerned about the fact that she is apparently willing to mind-control people into dating her. This should concern him lol
i think creating an oppressive society where you punish people just for being born makes you a villain but hey, a disney prince did it, so that means he’s in the right! like come on belle and adam with that wasnt very live laugh love of you
@@thefudgemslisten most irl concepts weren't made by ex-cursed princes who learned a 10 year long traumatizing lesson as a mutant to not judge a book by its cover. Maybe real life needs more witches furryfying narcissistic leaders. but the Beast definitely needs a second go into the singing Ikea trip
I don’t think that Evie’s plot line with Chad was about her being afraid to be smart because she thought it would intimidate boys. I think that it was more about her not having confidence in her intelligence because she was taught by her mother that being beautiful and finding a rich prince was all that mattered. She put all of her focus on being “a pretty face” and so she never really considered that she even *could* be smart. That’s why she felt the need to cheat on the first place; because she didn’t think that she was smart enough to get the right answers on her own. When Chad started giving her attention, she felt like she found her prince and would finally make her mother proud. She didn’t really care about *why* he was “interested” in her, (she even told him that she wasn’t that smart and that she used her magic mirror) and therefore she didn’t realize that he was only using her until it was too late. Then she lost her prince, along with what she felt like was her only means of passing her test, and her confidence was shot. So getting that B+ was her first indication that she was actually intelligent and could do this on her own.
I agree with you. This isn't my personal experience, but I definitely know girls who were subtly (and sometimes not-so-subtly) told by their parents that their looks were what mattered the most. Given that the Evil Queen not only prioritizes appearance to a fault, but probably also married into wealth and power on the basis of her looks, she definitely would teach her daughters that beauty is the most and only important thing. I've seen situations where a really beautiful but superficial mother has a daughter who is less beautiful and/or cares way less about her looks. It gets especially ugly (no pun intended) when the mother puts down her daughter's talents and interests because she thinks those things are less important, and can't fathom her daughter being genuinely interested in them.
Agreed, i loved their relationship. I also love the fan theory that Jay is actually Jasmine and Aladdin's son that Jafar stole and raised as a villian, which is why hes good at physical stuff, and not at magic like Jafar. Its like the.writers have NEVER seen Aladdin@starrsmith3810
since you didn’t finish the first descendants book, i feel obligated to let you know that there is an aurora ‘character falls into deep sleep and cannot be woken up except by true love’s kiss’ situation in which mal wakes evie up (kiss is on the forehead iirc but still)
@@zaddyfaye6880 dragon games (the ep where darling kisses apple) came out after the isle of the lost (the first descendants book), so this isn’t actually the case here
Dude is the dog actors real name. In all the shows he acts in, his name is Dude. He's a decent actor in the dog world, but I wouldn't have casted him for this roll.
Dude should’ve been a Dalmatian imo🐶🤷🏾 I would’ve loved to see Cruella lose the little sanity she had left during that video call they had with their parents 😂
@@juliusweaver3198 now that you mention it, yeah, it was such a missed opportunity. And also the most obvious route they could have gone, so no idea why they didn't
The Beast was effectively imprisoned in his home as a child, and it was at least partly his parents' fault because they raised him. So for him to turn around and imprison a bunch of children on an island because their parents were bad is... very depressingly on brand. Cycle of abuse and all that. edit: fixed a typo edit 2: another typo
Maybe the king, made a deal. If they raise the kids themselves the kids can't leave but if they're given up to the king as babies, they can come and go once they're old enough. But the villains wanted servants to help them escape so they didn't release em But I'm just guessing
Okay not the biggest issue by any means but, why would Lonnie’s mom, Mulan from Han Dynasty China, be baking chocolate chip cookies for her on a bad day. Correct me if I’m wrong, that just seems a bit out of place.
This is what I thought when I first watched the movie and I was literally EIGHT YEARS OLD and thinking “what?? why would she be doing that??” I took it serious 💀
i never understood why they chose to go with belle and the beast for the king and queen + our love interest's parents. given that cinderella's castle is a icon of the disney brand, i feel like cinderella and prince charming should have been the go-to. plus, having beauty and the beast at the forefront of the mind just constantly reminds me of the lackluster worldbuilding regarding auradon. like, beauty and the beast takes place in france. belle and adam are french. in descendants itself, ben sings be our guest and mentions france in the lyrics. does france exist in the descendants canon?? did they rename france to auradon? you can hand wave it off with most of the other characters, because their settings are "vaugely european", but it felt strange to put emphasis on beauty and the beast (+ mulan, with lonnie bringing up her mother and "the war". does china exist in the descendants extended universe??) when it's one of the few disney princess movies with a setting based in the real world. edit: having thought about this, a much better film to center for the parents of the main love interest would have been either cinderella (castle is an icon of the disney brand, fairy godmother is important to the story), sleeping beauty (because mal is the daughter of maleficent, so her getting together with the son of sleeping beauty would create drama), or snow white (the first feature length disney film). batb may be my favorite, but one of those three would have made so much more sense.
@@sarah_serif upon checking the descendants wiki, it lists that lonnie's home region was "formed out of china" ???? no source on it, no clue where they're getting that from. could find nothing on the wiki about france...
Yeah + it is weird to me that of all people, they chose as rulers the ones who has a story about redemption. You'd think that someone who has been cursed for being selfish and then has to learn to not be selfish to find true love and break the curse... would recognize that people are not born evil and that everybody can be or become good, right? And won't base his entire politics on the idea thay it is not the case?
It might be to incorporate Ben's beast side as a dichotomy because he's a "monster". Did they ever explain why Adam's "beast" is genetically passed down to Ben, because Adam was born human and cursed into the beast???
@@summeryick5641 never asked it to myself but now I have a theory and that will be my headcanon. Ben was conceived when Adam was still a beast. And I will keep the joke that comes to my mind in case children are reading.
uma had me in such a chokehold and honestly she still does, she was legit such a hero frfr and mal was such a class traitor frfr and i still cant stand her
that's so cute, mal is very pretty but uma had a good heart throughout all she wanted was a better life for the ppl on the isle ! i got a dog last year and i named her Uma cos she's a queen and still in my heart ! @@micahmosse3876
I didn't expect this rewatch to result in the realization that Mal ridded Auradon Prep of f*ck ass bobs ..... because that was definitely what Jane and Lonnie had
It’s weird that Audrey didn’t have her own character arc in Descendants 3, what with the hint in the beginning with her grandmother. It could’ve been a parallel to Mal’s where she realizes that she doesn’t have the same desires as her family.
EVERY TIME I talk about these movies to someone I have to bring up the canon necromancy bit because idk how to tell you this buddy but if you're raising the dead with unholy nature-defying dark arts just to throw them in a non-foolproof potentially escapable jail I think that should be an indicator its just not a good idea
And really, what was the point? At least most of these villains were dead so they couldn't do further harm but resurrecting them just to put them into a prison is a terrible idea and will just piss them off more. And when the barrier breaks (or drops), those villains will want revenge.
I always think about what you both said like why and my biggest question is who met who and decided all this and what was the price for it ESPECIALLY raising the dead Genie was specifically detailed about how it wasn’t pretty doing that and magically gave a gruesome example of it looked when laying down the rules to Aladdin…
@@juliusweaver3198especially with some of the more magically inclined villains. Shadow Man was dragged to hell, Horned King was completely eviscerated, Hades was dragged into the depths of the underworld, Evil Queen was destroyed by falling off a cliff due to lightning, and Gaston fell into a massive ravine. Who has the power to ressurect these villains, why would they, and how does puting them in an eternal purgatory fix anything???
I honestly feel like they were better off just retconning the villain’s deaths in these movies. like these movies already bend the canon of every movie featured in it, what’s stopping them from just saying the villains were only imprisoned or something
That’s what happens when you limit and half ass creativity 🤦🏾♂️ it could’ve been waaaaaaaaay better and more detailed and designed so much better with better explanations and plot but no
i feel like cruella is such an odd villain lore wise to trap on this prison island. like you have magical archmages who have tried to curse royalty and take over kingdoms and then you have some rich woman with unethical choices in clothing like the scale they have to choose whether someone is a villain and deserved to be resurrected and tossed onto a prison island is real wide ngl. like, do you think any prisoner of the kingdoms gets thrown on this island? you get cought shoplifting and all of a sudden you get sent to live in poverty with an evil mage who can turn into a dragon like whats the justice system of this country like
I'm pretty sure that question is literally why Aladdin isn't in the movies. Like, he is undeniably the hero in his story, but he's also doing something illegal (and illegal=bad since it's a children's series), so I think they just kind of sidestepped that issue by making Jafar's son embody Aladdin's bad traits (briefly) and just not mentioning the rest of the movie.
I had the same thoughts about the Wicked Stepsisters. Like sure the stepmother is guilty of child abuse but at most the stepsisters were just bad people. is being a bitch illegal? Cinderella's whole thing was being kind and humble what were her thoughts on the matter?
most of the other villains were in stories where the main character either is or becomes royalty, so im imagining its rich powerful people doing awful things to be petty but cruella makes no sense?? like who even told belle and the beast that she existed?? one of the dogs???
@@adivorcee2357 Or Hook and Gaston - Gaston is literally just a himbo incel who tried. I bet when someone would have just smacked his mind into the right place he would be a great man.
Hades has a point about Audrey being forgiven but he was definitely the wrong person to tell them. It should have been Uma or someone who didn't try killing his nephew for power. Also I hate how Mal just forgave Hades for being an absent father. Yeah people forgive their parents for crazy things all the time but she made it very clear that him being absent was deeply traumatic for her. I think they should have had it so Maleficent forbid Hades from seeing Mal so she could mold her into her own image and we could have had an exchange like this instead: "You abandoned me when I was a baby!" "Your mom wouldn't let me be around you, I didn't have a choice"
Dude i think about this every time I've watched the 3rd movie. And not only that but they butchered his character too. The hades in descendents shares almost none of the same personality as the original and I feel like it consistently happened.
I have to say, it bothers me to no end that Mal’s hair has purple ends in the second movie. I think it’s supposed to be like she dyed her hair blonde and the purple is from it growing it out…but that is not how that works. Like at all. Her roots would be purple, not the tips.
is she meant to be naturally purple-haired? legit asking, idk. I assumed the implication was that Mal normally keeps her hair purple dyed, and so the ends are because she’s been growing out naturally blonde hair. I’ve thought too much about this now
@thatlycantomboy yes she is meant to be naturally purple, just like Evie is naturally blue. But to show that she's changed and to conform to the "princess way," she dyed it white and kept the tips purple to have a little part of who she was before Ben.
@@tealhiidi don't think she's meant to be naturally purple or evie is naturally blue though. in the second movie mal mentioned that dizzy was the one who initially dyed evies hair on the isle, and in the third movie they both have visible roots. im not 100% sure on this though if it was stated otherwise
Horrible belated realization is that Disney just took all the bullet points from Descendants and handed them to Yana Toboso to make Twisted Wonderland, and it actually worked.
I’ve never seen these movies or read the books, so I might be biased based on the fact that I’ve only seen TH-cam analyses of them, but the whole premise of this seems horrifying. Like, imagine your entire life plot is about redemption and growing from a hateful person into someone changed by love, but then you bring dozens of villains back from the dead so you can torture them for things they’ve already DIED from, PLUS imprisoning and traumatizing their innocent CHILDREN for things their parents did. Like, what the fuck, Adam and Belle, that’s the exact opposite of your ENTIRE message.
@@whatamidoing8566THATS WHY I KEEP ASKING WHERE THE HELL IS THE ENCHANTRESS WHERES CIRCE 😭😭😭😭 even if it was for 5 seconds she played an important part in both their stories so they really think we’re supposed to believe she would let any of this bs slide auradon as a whole SHOULDVE been cursed heavily with the fuckery they were on part of me have this odd feeling she got locked in the isle with the villains
@@juliusweaver3198 Beast was misguided he wasn’t evil he was flawed but he was always open minded and always came around at the end of the day he never hated the VKs even if he was hesitant
@@juliusweaver3198 That would make so much sense and bring up so many questions. Circe is a Greek deity, just like Hades. That would mean that Fairy Godmother is either canonically stronger than *two* separate gods or got help from someone who is. Who would that be?
Dove Cameron having chemistry with basically everyone BUT Mitchell Hope is still so freaking hilarious to me. 🤣 Also the sapphic vibes of the Descendants franchise are *exquisite*.~
Cameron Boyce’s death gets to me on a personal level. He died from the same thing I had when I was a kid, I knew him from Jessie and these movies, and he wasn’t that far from my age at the time. He died far too young. He was a talented kid.
There's two things that really piss me off with the franchise 1st how much of the astetic and characterization it's taken from the monster high concept (the wild hair colors, the "edgy" clothes, the characters having puny names that are based on their parents names) 2nd: how most people in Auradon seem like snooby jerk's by keeping so many inocent people in the island and treating them like shit when they're supposed to be the beloved Disney heroes we know so well, the worst example of this is Lonnie that despite been one of the nicest people in Auradon she acts really shallow and worry about her appearance in the frist movie
disney, of all companies, accidentaly creating a great allegory for how we treat native people in ex colonized countries (and minorities in our own countries) will never not be funny to me. because that's how it works right? speaking from my european prespective, we act all high and mighty, while actively harming the countries we say are third world. and those countries are that way now due to the way we fucked them up during the colonization times. we act like we're civilized and they're barbaric, when we're the ones using them for modern slavery, profiting off of child labour and exploiting all their resources. we do all this while portraying ourselves as the heroes who will eventually save those coutries, as long as they assimilate perfectly to our culture and leave anything related to their culture and ethnicity behind, of course.
Okay so I immediately got bad vibes from Beast “somehow” uniting multiple kingdoms under his realm, since historically that kinda stuff takes an extreme amount of violence. Everything managed to get somehow worse when they revealed he had absolute authority over the other states, and was immediately elected president (presumably for life) after “founding” the union meaning he wrote the constitution and can probably amend it will. The prison colony where children were imprisoned for being descendants of political opponents didn’t help either.
O.M.G Yes!!! You know he only crowned Ben at 16 because he was getting pushed to step down and he wanted to keep the power in the family and within arms reach.
I really think given all that, that the words "got himself elected king" were picked very carefully (the writing of these series is a complete mess, but I feel like at least the real world parallel and the way it's explained in story were intentional and thought out). No one elected this man, he elected himself fr
Didn't fully watch the series, but I suspected the kids staying on the island being the parents fault not so much the king. . Like the king probably asked if they wanted to release em but they would be raised by someone else but if they raise em themselves they can't leave
@@dandywaysofliving You just can’t leave newborns on a prison island though? Even if the parents say that it’s fine and cool, _your_ the king, you are in charge, leaving the children in an open air prison and then pushing back and getting nervous when they get introduced to society for the first time is being a bad ruler. Also, if they have behavior issues and commit crimes, that’s kind of partially your fault since you left them with no way of contacting the outside world and no other influence and authority figures then the criminals you deemed evil and enough of a problem to bring back to life and trap them in the worlds most secure prison with no guards from birth to experience lifelong abuse and extreme poverty and then expect them to come out of that with outstanding morals? He fully created the problems he and the rest of that kingdom are currently experiencing and left it for a sixteen year old who still answers to his parents to fix for an entire country.
lol this franchise is really banking on its audience not understanding that "unification" is the whitewashed word for "conquering" that is exclusively used by the historians of the conquering nation. and hey, that seems like a safe bet to me
the tokyo disney "villains' assistants" characters they brought out for one halloween had better outfits and characterization than the Descendants who had a whole movie trilogy and toy line 💀
man, ever after high really is the only thing to ever do anything interesting with the concept of 'what if fairytales but shared universe relationship drama'. mostly because it actually engages with the concept of what a fairytale *is*, and even then it only managed it for one season.
I’m choosing to believe that jay and aziz were going to be romatic interests for eachother but bc it was 2015 they cut that concept and didn’t let it happen. Booboo Stewart is bi I believe and has done other MLM projects before so it makes a lot more sense than them just kinda being buddies
I think it doesn't make sense for Belle to be less inviting to villains, because the beast literally is a story of "don't judge a book by it's cover". This is literally the Disney version. She tolerated him until they fell in love. wtf
I love that the wicked stepsisters are on the isle and the implications that it brings. They weren't evil or anything just mean people. Did Auradon outlaw being a bitch? At what magnitude of bitchiness do you get imprisoned?
Well, in fairness, maybe they outlawed child abuse AND have a "Punish-The-Family- For-One-Persons-Crime" type thing? Seems on-brand given the whole prison island thing.
1:24:15 As a kid who spent a long time in foster care and is now legally mandated no contact from my bio parents, I do want to note that after some time you do start to miss your parents even if they’re awful people.
It drives me crazy that Audrey, of her own volition, did almost all the same things that malificent did for just selfish reasons and gets off with an “I’m sorry.” She needs to be sent to the isle! It’s only right
Except she didn’t. All she did was steal the scepter and do some small things (turn mal into a hag, and turn people to stone, which was easily reversed). You’re forgetting that Mal stole her boyfriend, it’s only right to seek for revenge
my personal relationship headcanon is that on the isle, harry and jay were kinda secretly hooking up, secretly because uma and mal were rivals since they were 10, that was established. and so they were together-ish you know, as much as you can be in a place where love is frowned upon, so you know, like they were hanging out but not labeling it. anyway, when jay left for the isle, they had a fight and broke up. then in movie 3, because they're forced to team up, they have to talk, which leads to them making up and are ongood terms again. and jay meets gil, and they bond and decide to travel together, and during that year of traveling they fall in love, and it's adorable
I didn't like the introduction of Celia, like her character was fine, but the had already introduced Freddy (her older sister, apparently) who was voiced by China Anne McClain in Wicked World. However China was playing Uma in the live action so they couldn't use her character. And they portrayed Dr. Faciliar soooo differently. It showed that he and Celia had a Father/Daughter relationship, when Freddy had implied that he was neglectful to her, a man obessed with his past, like he was just like the main 4's parents. I know it was all swept to the side, but that inconsistency drove me insane. Just like how they established characters in the books and substituted them for different ones in the movie. Like how many kids do Captain Hook, and Gaston have? Or like how may siblings does Mal have through Hades that she never acknowledged? It's just so frustrating how uncoordinated the end of the franchise was.
I def peeped that too ngl I was like is this the same voodoo doctor was Freddy told us about or did I misheard her…. What gets me is wicked world is canon between movies yet the other characters were never acknowledged or mentioned Freddy Jordan Zevon Ali Cj hook and Rapunzel daughter who hair was only shown briefly like twice
Theres not enough discussion about how "your family will also be punished for your crimes with imprisonment for generations" is literally what North Korea does
sure, but in the storied Disney canon he’s an outright villain, however. Y’know, that’s the Hades hat soul-enslaves Meg, tries to merc Herc? …honestly pretty surprised that Disney recognized 1999’s Hercules at all in these movies
Disney heroes: "We'll put Hades on a prison island from which he can't escape :)" Hades, on Disneyland Alcatraz: "Ok, well, enjoy having the souls of the damned wander the earth since no one's guarding the Underworld, *fuckos* :)"
@@OhNoBohNohuh maybe thats why all those dead villains came back to life and were imprisoned on the isle, itd be a better idea than purposefully ressurecting them just to lock them up
Some of the villains aren't even real villains to Like Gaston? Yeah, he is a mysoginistic asshole, but based on the time it takes place and that he thought that it would be something every woman wants/needs he seems just like - a bit to rude. Not more
jay and gil had some serioussssssssssssss flirting going on (even tho ppl will say it's a bromance), they were even planning on travelling the world, trying exotic fruits and cool activities and harry comes in and laughs at them while theyre picking berries off the bush and is like " LMAO THAT SOUNDS SO STUPID" so i think that gil had feelings for harry but kinda realizes that hey some ppl are actually kind and dont belittle every thing you say or do, so it's another interesting toxic dynamic that's highlighted.
No it was because they got greedy and rushed the manufacturing Y’all are too blinded by your hate for descendants you can’t even see the truth Also y’all don’t understand how ideas happen descendants was being planned way before ever after high was out or even a thing Lmao do some research before making assumptions and also Disney didn’t even come up with the idea of descendants it was Melissa de la cruz They didn’t even want to do it at first Descendants was created by Melissa de La cruz and she pitched the idea to Disney They didn’t even want to do descendants at first they had to be persuaded by Melissa de la cruz *Descendants star Dove Cameron and author Melissa de la Cruz sat down for an in-depth interview about the series and explained just how everything works together. "I was informed very early on...by the head of Disney Channel, Gary Marsh, that the reason this project has taken so long was because Disney Corporate had to approve of somebody officially embellishing on the original stories, because that is what we're doing," Dove explained. "Anything else, like Once Upon a Time, hasn't actually been an official embellishment on the story," she continued, "We. Are. Canon." Descendants was actually the first time Disney was officially touching the classic tales of their movies. (By touching they mean continuing the continuity remakes don’t count) "That's why it took so long, because apparently, Disney corporate was like 'That's a terrible idea, we don't want to mess with the original stuff.' And so [Gary] told me that. He was like, 'This is the first time that this is ever going to happen.'" Dove adds, "Disney Channel is it's own thing, it's own beast, so to be told you're involved in the classics is like, there's nothing more delicious than that. I think that's why we're all so invested in the series and the franchise itself because it's the first time!" "It's the deepest honor, so for me, it was less nerve-wracking and the most delicious opportunity."*
@@madnessarcade7447why is this written as though you're replying to different comments? Edit: Learned why, every one of their comments is copy and pasted, block for spam
Auradon functions 100% on Late Roman Republic/Early Roman Empire rules. that's how you get things like entire countries being redefined as something more like city-states or provinces, totally-legit "democratically" "elected" Kings passing on the throne to their children, citizenship being based on allegiance (which often turns into being based on usefulness to those in power), a deeply multicultural & diverse society that still has a (equally diverse) stratified underclass, etc etc. it's Rome. Auradon is if someone scooped all of Disney off of the tip of Florida and replaced it with Rome.
Rewatching this, i think the most fucked up thing in the entire series is the relationship between Chad/Cinderella and Dizzy. As in, there isnt one. The character *most* defined by knowing what its like to grow up abused, in seclusion, and neglected hy family just doesnt spare a thought for her niece living in squalor. Nor does her son care about his cousin.
I think they’re going to do something about it in the 5th movie. Rise of Red seemed to be bringing up themes about family. Cinderella’s daughter(Chad’s younger sister) goes back in time, and sees how her mom is treated by Lady Tremaine. I’m pretty sure we see a character who’s supposed to be Drisela in the background of one of the scenes.
So evie being the daughter of evil queen makes her snow whites step sister, and evil queen wanting evie to marry a rich prince would mean that she could've just set snow white up with someone and became richer and forget about the whole beauty contest. Also, evie having a ship dynamic with dopys son, makes a really complicated family tree, considering she also probably goes to school with snow whites daughter and that make her essentially evies niece, and then snow white also is probably still close with the seven dwarves so then that makes things even more confusing. To summarize: evie dates her sister's friend's child
i was always curious as to how much info the author was given before writing the books because a lot of book details are in the movies like you said, but you would never know it if you hadn't read them. also in book one, there was a very weird scene where carlos was able to break the barrier long enough for the tv to have channels other than the official auradon news channel, and i think canonly in the book they're saying that disney channel is a thing, because carlos was describing a tv show about twins that look exactly like mal but they're blond, and i was like okay to dove was already cast as mal, but why add this detail like it's so random, what do you mean they have disney channel?
i feel like some of the plotholes in descendants could’ve been solved if instead of everyone being disney character’s kids, some of them were grandkids. like it would at least solve the whole “why did all of these disney characters have kids at the same time” dilemma
I never really cared about this series, but I DO remember that I used to really love Uma,, like, pirate, pretty girl, AND part sea creature, are you kidding me??
She didn't even need fillers or anything. She was already incredibly beautiful. I remember seeing her in some snow sport movie long before Descendants and thought "Wow! She looks like an angel come to life!" I suppose it says a lot about the industry or humanity that even someone as naturally stunning as Dove has things they're insecure about. It's sad, really, when there's plenty of young girls and mtf's that would love to look like Dove and Dove would apparently rather look like Kylie Jenner. Everyone is beautiful in their own unique way, the inner beauty is what matters most of all, and we really need to stop trying to fix what isn't broken and stop comparing ourselves to others. Would a rainbow be as beautiful if every color were the same?
It's her body and her choice. And besides, what does it matter if someone is getting filler or plastic surgery if it's for their own happiness and not someone else's.
@@michaelinthebathroom7560 I think there's reason to doubt that a popular teen actress at Disney got lip filler completely unpressured and of her own desire. The industry is rough as hell on young women.
not sure why no one is mentioning this, but there’s a big issue with the audio getting all crackly.. not that it ruins the video, but it is a bit bothersome
i can absolutely see some of these villains being good parents, obviously not all of them who the hell got together with fucking cruella holy shit why would you do that to yourself, but like smee? i could see smee being at least a decent dad
I have a theory, but its definitely not a family friendly one. It rhymes with porridge and ends with a Y. Or possibly IES. Might explain why all the kids seem to be around the same age.
Ohhhhh you think they were having mass orgies? I mean I guess why not, but do you think they have contraceptives on the island? Because if not then there might be a lot of teen pregnancy.
My favourite thing about these movies was 100% the costume designs, specifically the costumes for the residents of the isle of the lost, they're just so vibrant and fun.
One of the most annoying things this first movie did is that Carlos is terrified of dogs has been scared of them from young age. When he runs scared away from that dog and climbing a tree to get away from it. And then that boring Ben comes with the dog and says couple of words and BUM boring Ben gives the dog to Carlos 😑🤨 Seriously? If someone is terrified of something that fear doesn't go away with couple of words 😑🙄
"Essentially the U.S.A. made a prison island -- very on brand." ...I have never heard of the Descendants, don't care about Disney, and have no idea why this was recommended to me, but less than 3&1/2 minutes in, liked & subscribed. Edited to add: this was a delightful way to spend 90 minutes. Cheers!
2:31 "Beast united all of the kingdoms and got himself elected king of the United States of Auradon." To quote Monty Python: "Well, I didn't vote for you!"
one thing that i (as a brazilian) find funny is that Mal means “bad” or “evil” in portuguese, otherwise Bem (almost Ben) means “good”, so they’re literally the opposite of each other kinda of a yin-yang thing
I was not expecting this but I love this so much. I was interested in the concept of Descendants when it came out but knew I had no intensions in watching any of them so thank you. Plus love the Quinton Reviews vibe (idk if that was something you were going for) but still very distinctly different!
Fun fact: The name "Auradon" likely comes from the old latin word for gold, "aurum." That slightly adds to how Auradon prides itself on its prestigious image.
these movies are such a guilty pleasure for our family 😭 so many fun memories watching them together, even as we question and roast the characters and the worlds LMAO
I love how they made a franchise about Disney Character's children, and there is no sign of Melody, Ariel's canonical daughter. Though the existence of Ariel's niece do at least imply that they'll acknowledge it by not acknowledging it and deliberately not giving Ariel any onscreen descendant for this, which is a weird attention to detail that the franchise usually lacks
I initially would've defended the truth gummy making a dog able to speak Emglish on the grounds of general magic BS, but then they use the dog as part of a setup/lie with no issue?? So he's not even forced to tell the TRUTH with the power of speech he gained from a truth gummy? Not even a "be careful not to let Uma ask him direct questions or say anything that would provoke him to respond directly because he can't lie", he's just...allowed to pretend the wand made him talk without any difficulty? Sure. Sure
18:31 Seriously? In my opinion, that ballet was the only memorable thing about that entire series. Yes, the entire descendants series! I still listen to it years later. (I'm not upset, I promise.)
Sometimes love is baking cookies. Sometimes it's saving the last cookie for someone, or at least splitting it in half to share. Sometimes there are no cookies and that in itself is a reason to be sad. I'm sure your parents do love you and I hope you have some cookies to enjoy
No one ever tried to trick/force me into doing their homework in High School. I was smart and cute, so the motive was there if you're a 40 year old screenwriter, but in real life the most I'd get is "can I copy that?" If I said 'no' that was it. Also, I didn't really have any guys create some elaborate methods to get me to go out with them. Either talking to a girl is like the scariest thing in the world, or they're just up front with their flirting. Honestly I can't believe that most teen show writers can't remember what it was like. Really, I think what it all comes down to is that most writers forget is that teenagers are more concerned about what's going on in their own lives to be bothered with anyone else. But that isn't interesting. Seeing a bunch of people either avoiding conversation or else trying to be the center of attention to the point of annoyance isn't good drama. So yeah, unless you're some uber prick no one is forcing people to do assignments for them. At best, you're assigned a group activity and now you have to do everything because your team mates are unreliable morons. If a bully is going to do anything, it's make fun of you or try to fight you. They ain't looking for an A in class. Also I think they did that long battle because that set is freaking amazing and probably expensive. So the director is like "we're using this mother f*cker."
uhmm im in highschool and i agree but also like no one wants to watch realistic teen shows they're fucking boring and we already know what that is like.
i’ve been obsessed with this trilogy of movies for so long. like i don’t even know why. i used to dedicate so much of my time to re-writing the janky plot and reworking the characters a little (just to personal taste) and i still find myself humming the songs and wanting to rewatch the movies. what a ridiculous set of movies. i can’t help but be so fond of it.
i'm a fully grown adult but i think queen of mean slaps so hard. my single other thought is that this series would've been significantly better if the pairings were mal/evie, uma/audrey and ben/carlos for various reasons
Ben and Carlos would be really good! Carlos would fall in love with a "dog like" guy, which could've added more layers in their stories. Also, Carlos would've liked art and fashion and Ben would've been more into literature and stuff, to mirror their parents.
This is literally why everafter high was so much more clever about why all these different stories co-existing at the same time. Everyone must play a specific role or else there might be chaos within the kingdom. It acknowledges the balance of good and evil which is why children of villains and heroes go to the same school, but villains are still discriminated against despite not having a choice in the matter. I love ever after and i think its so much more compelling that monster high ever was. It sucks that it got screwed over the way it did.
Yes! Raven was the first to refuse to go along with things and didn't want to be evil. Apple White being upset that Raven didn't want to poison her was lowkey hilarious. C.A Cupid's own love problems were intriguing. So on and so forth. Even the "mean" characters were shown to have a soft side; Duchess Swan was actually heart-wrenching when she explained why she didn't want to go along with things, much like Briar Rose's reasons but different. I wanted to see how their stories unfolded, to see if Cupid ever finds love for herself, and even the narrator family...they were so cute. The world of EAH was brilliantly done and perfectly fairy tale while bringing a whole new twist to it all.
These movies gave me such an ick when I was younger. I watched them just to watch them because they were so popular. I just didn't get it. It was also incredibly hard to watch the movies in a timely matter because I didn't have disney channel/cable. So the last movies I only watched once and never again for some reason. I will say my favorite part of the whole series was the song "Queen of Mean." I would play it on a loop and just fell in love with the song. It's still iconic to me
i love that there's two extras in wheelchairs in the whole series. there's one towards the end of 'be our guest' and another when they announce that they'll bring down the barrier. it honestly might be the same one but i feel like their wheelchairs should be bedazzled. idk
While I was hearing this video, I accidentally set my arms on fire with turpentine while cleaning pain from my arms. For a few seconds as I trashed around turning myself off, I could only hear the sound of my blood rushing through my ears and your voice explaining why Mal's friends got mad at her. It was one of the most traumatic experiences in my life, and now you will forever be a part of that memory. Anyways, I'm finishing the video as I dunk my arms on cold water.
another thing that exists under the umbrella of descendants is a musical designed for high school/middle school theater departments. it’s a mixture of songs from the movies and original songs, and the plot line is a mashup of all 3 movies. the plot makes no sense at all if you’ve never seen the movies.
I would also like to point out the tension between Uma and Mal - she lived in Uma‘s head rent free for so long that she dreamed about making her squirm?? The fics write themselves
i really hate that the kids are fine with seeing their parents again. in the books, this idea was much more prevalent, but at least the main vk's parents were insinuated to be abusive or neglectful. usually, that would make you want to cut ties with them or never want to see them again. i know this is a kids show, but having the main characters be so willing to forgive isn't the right thing to be teaching kids in my opinion
I was weirdly saddened by Cameron’s death. Like, i’d never had a strong fixation or anything, and i wasn’t a huge fan of anything he was in, but it sent me into a depressive spiral for 3 months. Anyone else get something like that? Not just for him, like I’ve heard it for robin Williams.
1:23:10 literally lmaooo at some point Beast needed to step in cos Aurodon is now at massive risk bcos of bringing down the barrier. and i HATE that they dont frame it as the kids parents want to change, it's the kids who reach out to these toxic, absive parents who up to this moment have shown literally no interest in changing or fostering healthy relationships w their kids. it's so upsetting and angering cos what does that teach the kids who loved these characters bcos of the underlying absive parents storyline. i still love descendants but as i've gotten older i realized the actual flaws
I think Ben's parents didn't refuse his idea bc he was about to be crowned king soon anyways, so even if they no then he probably still would've done it once he was crowned (him being king at 16 is questionable but Disney movie logic)
Tbh him being king at 16 is like, the only believable part of this movie, because it's happened many times before. Some kings were even younger than that! But those are usually made king after the old king, y'know, dies, so still kinda weird
Smart of you to have two different hairstyles in this movie so they can make two different dolls of you
How does the pinned comment have zero replies?
@@NoombatIsMecause it's a relatively new comment and hasn't been seen by as many people.
also, there's nothing to add. which is proven by your only response to be "why no comments" instead of something about the actual comment
Not Disney totally forgetting that Tangled has a whole ass kingdom called Corona, Tangleton made me gag a little bit as a fan of the movie and the show.
The kingdom was also an island, so tangletown doesn't even make sense
@@summeryick5641 EXACTLY
They do have the kingdom of Corona on the map, but I seriously have no idea what Tangleton is. Plus the map is kinda ridiculous and doesn't really make sense. (Though I doubt it was actually supposed to be looked over-)
@nnioopnnioop2474 look up "descendants map" there's a "kingdom of Corona" and "tangleton" they're references to other movies
@@nnioopnnioop2474 Yuppers
can you imagine waking up after having died as a disney villain and it turns out they only resurrected you to put you on a *PRISON ISLAND* ?? And ALSO, any of your kids will be restricted to the prison island as well, like what the FUCK
*cough* Australia *cough*
Australia can perform necromancy????????
@@julien4305Thats what the kangaroos are for
Being a cute franchise with dark and mature lore undertones is part of what makes it so good
Tbf, it's not like if those villains didn't deserve it. The kids on the other hand DID NOT. And I'm much more preocupied with stuff like imprisoning Monstro or, let's see what was it? Ah yes, the FRICKIN GOD OF THE UNDERWORLD!!!
NOBODY UNDERSTANDS THE AMOUNT OF FRIENDS TO RIVALS TO ENEMIES TO FRIENDS TENSION THAT UMA AND MAL HAVE
Once I learned of it I immediately jumped to uma team which she had a point the entire time and was looking out for the isle while Mal was the opposite remind me why did we keep rooting for Mal after the first movie
RIIGHTT
You forgot the to lovers part/hj
@@elfi643 i did. in fact forget it not joking
LITERALLY OH MY GOD
I love how *4 years* after being sent to the isle all the villains are like “F*CK IT! LET’S HAVE KIDS!”
Shit else to do I guess
Probably on accident lmao
you presume they did it on purpose
They have to do something 😂
To be fair what else did they have to do?
The funniest part for me is how Mal essentially mind-controls Ben into dating her and he is just FINE WITH IT.
Real
iconic trophy husband, that prince
He already liked her the spell just amplified feelings that already existed
@@madnessarcade7447 Even so, why is he not at all concerned about the fact that she is apparently willing to mind-control people into dating her. This should concern him lol
@@mrsnatural2368because he already liked her also they were destined
The prequel books addressed it
i think creating an oppressive society where you punish people just for being born makes you a villain but hey, a disney prince did it, so that means he’s in the right!
like come on belle and adam with that wasnt very live laugh love of you
and shouldn't the beast of all people know not to judge others like that?? shouldn't belle?????
@@grrrlknight the enchantress that cursed him needs to get his ass again
Hmm yeah super weird concept never before seen in real life
@@thefudgemslisten most irl concepts weren't made by ex-cursed princes who learned a 10 year long traumatizing lesson as a mutant to not judge a book by its cover. Maybe real life needs more witches furryfying narcissistic leaders. but the Beast definitely needs a second go into the singing Ikea trip
@@queenofeverything4004 LMFAO fair very fair 😭🤣
I don’t think that Evie’s plot line with Chad was about her being afraid to be smart because she thought it would intimidate boys. I think that it was more about her not having confidence in her intelligence because she was taught by her mother that being beautiful and finding a rich prince was all that mattered. She put all of her focus on being “a pretty face” and so she never really considered that she even *could* be smart. That’s why she felt the need to cheat on the first place; because she didn’t think that she was smart enough to get the right answers on her own. When Chad started giving her attention, she felt like she found her prince and would finally make her mother proud. She didn’t really care about *why* he was “interested” in her, (she even told him that she wasn’t that smart and that she used her magic mirror) and therefore she didn’t realize that he was only using her until it was too late. Then she lost her prince, along with what she felt like was her only means of passing her test, and her confidence was shot. So getting that B+ was her first indication that she was actually intelligent and could do this on her own.
I agree with you. This isn't my personal experience, but I definitely know girls who were subtly (and sometimes not-so-subtly) told by their parents that their looks were what mattered the most. Given that the Evil Queen not only prioritizes appearance to a fault, but probably also married into wealth and power on the basis of her looks, she definitely would teach her daughters that beauty is the most and only important thing. I've seen situations where a really beautiful but superficial mother has a daughter who is less beautiful and/or cares way less about her looks. It gets especially ugly (no pun intended) when the mother puts down her daughter's talents and interests because she thinks those things are less important, and can't fathom her daughter being genuinely interested in them.
I just wish that Disney spent money on beautiful wigs for this character.
Also Evie and Doug had a better relationship than Mal and Ben…..just felt like adding that in.
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Agreed, i loved their relationship. I also love the fan theory that Jay is actually Jasmine and Aladdin's son that Jafar stole and raised as a villian, which is why hes good at physical stuff, and not at magic like Jafar. Its like the.writers have NEVER seen Aladdin@starrsmith3810
since you didn’t finish the first descendants book, i feel obligated to let you know that there is an aurora ‘character falls into deep sleep and cannot be woken up except by true love’s kiss’ situation in which mal wakes evie up (kiss is on the forehead iirc but still)
Omg fantastic
disney try not to rip off EAH challenge: impossible
THEYRE LESBIANS HAROLD
I need to reread that book because I forgot about that
@@zaddyfaye6880 dragon games (the ep where darling kisses apple) came out after the isle of the lost (the first descendants book), so this isn’t actually the case here
Dude is the dog actors real name. In all the shows he acts in, his name is Dude. He's a decent actor in the dog world, but I wouldn't have casted him for this roll.
Dude should’ve been a Dalmatian imo🐶🤷🏾 I would’ve loved to see Cruella lose the little sanity she had left during that video call they had with their parents 😂
@@juliusweaver3198 now that you mention it, yeah, it was such a missed opportunity. And also the most obvious route they could have gone, so no idea why they didn't
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iant he also in the healing powers of dude? idk i could be wrong but
The Beast was effectively imprisoned in his home as a child, and it was at least partly his parents' fault because they raised him. So for him to turn around and imprison a bunch of children on an island because their parents were bad is... very depressingly on brand. Cycle of abuse and all that.
edit: fixed a typo
edit 2: another typo
Maybe the king, made a deal. If they raise the kids themselves the kids can't leave but if they're given up to the king as babies, they can come and go once they're old enough.
But the villains wanted servants to help them escape so they didn't release em
But I'm just guessing
@@dandywaysofliving "give your children to the state or they'll be imprisoned with you forever" would be even WORSE subtext
Also wasn’t Belle partly judged by her town because of her father?????
Literally why would she even be okay with that????
@@starrsmith3810 you're right! So Disney somehow picked two of the WORST characters to do this, incredible
@@starrsmith3810
ok with what and she’s
judged for being different
for daring to want more
Okay not the biggest issue by any means but, why would Lonnie’s mom, Mulan from Han Dynasty China, be baking chocolate chip cookies for her on a bad day. Correct me if I’m wrong, that just seems a bit out of place.
My 21st century Chinese mom doesn’t even make chocolate chip cookies, why would dynastic Mulan be baking them 😭😭
This is what I thought when I first watched the movie and I was literally EIGHT YEARS OLD and thinking “what?? why would she be doing that??” I took it serious 💀
Well, Mulan does regularly go against the norm so it does kind of make sense🤷🏾♀️
she got colonized smh /s
Feel like Shang would be more likely to bake her cookies tbh.
i never understood why they chose to go with belle and the beast for the king and queen + our love interest's parents. given that cinderella's castle is a icon of the disney brand, i feel like cinderella and prince charming should have been the go-to. plus, having beauty and the beast at the forefront of the mind just constantly reminds me of the lackluster worldbuilding regarding auradon. like, beauty and the beast takes place in france. belle and adam are french. in descendants itself, ben sings be our guest and mentions france in the lyrics. does france exist in the descendants canon?? did they rename france to auradon?
you can hand wave it off with most of the other characters, because their settings are "vaugely european", but it felt strange to put emphasis on beauty and the beast (+ mulan, with lonnie bringing up her mother and "the war". does china exist in the descendants extended universe??) when it's one of the few disney princess movies with a setting based in the real world.
edit: having thought about this, a much better film to center for the parents of the main love interest would have been either cinderella (castle is an icon of the disney brand, fairy godmother is important to the story), sleeping beauty (because mal is the daughter of maleficent, so her getting together with the son of sleeping beauty would create drama), or snow white (the first feature length disney film). batb may be my favorite, but one of those three would have made so much more sense.
Ikr I was going to joke like “what war, Lonnie? when exactly was this war? who were the opposing sides? you’re being awfully vague”
@@sarah_serif upon checking the descendants wiki, it lists that lonnie's home region was "formed out of china" ???? no source on it, no clue where they're getting that from. could find nothing on the wiki about france...
Yeah + it is weird to me that of all people, they chose as rulers the ones who has a story about redemption. You'd think that someone who has been cursed for being selfish and then has to learn to not be selfish to find true love and break the curse... would recognize that people are not born evil and that everybody can be or become good, right? And won't base his entire politics on the idea thay it is not the case?
It might be to incorporate Ben's beast side as a dichotomy because he's a "monster". Did they ever explain why Adam's "beast" is genetically passed down to Ben, because Adam was born human and cursed into the beast???
@@summeryick5641 never asked it to myself but now I have a theory and that will be my headcanon. Ben was conceived when Adam was still a beast. And I will keep the joke that comes to my mind in case children are reading.
Okay but why is dove kind of slaying wearing the lesbian flag colors as eyeshadow
She’s actually bisexual :D also descendants gave me a gigantic crush on her when I was younger lol
@@saphire1sababy378they just said what the colors were. Never said she wasnt lmao
@@Tw0Dots I know I just thought I’d give them a cool peice of info lol
@@saphire1sababy378 its cool 👍
Have a nice day/night
@@Tw0DotsJust some info for people who didn't know. 😁 I didn't.
not 'the isle of the lost' having the same origin story as Australia 😭
Trust me, watching these movies as an Aussie is...interesting.
Coloniser energy. I didn't even notice the acronym
shouldve been called the united kingdoms (of auradon)
That's what I was thinking.
😭😭
uma had me in such a chokehold and honestly she still does, she was legit such a hero frfr and mal was such a class traitor frfr and i still cant stand her
I had such a huge crush on both
that's so cute, mal is very pretty but uma had a good heart throughout all she wanted was a better life for the ppl on the isle ! i got a dog last year and i named her Uma cos she's a queen and still in my heart ! @@micahmosse3876
@RiniDiamandis me too. Still love that character because she actually wanted to free everybody and wasn't selfish like Mal . I really don't like Mal.
No. No, she wasn’t.
The Descendent’s class traitors fr
Uma way more interesting and compelling protagonist
I didn't expect this rewatch to result in the realization that Mal ridded Auradon Prep of f*ck ass bobs ..... because that was definitely what Jane and Lonnie had
Thanks Mal
Mal invented yassification
I'm usually not a fan of girls getting "glow ups" in movies but in descendents...I think it was for the greater good.
PLEASE @@ダーリン-p5s
disneys entire budget went into harrys "never learnt how to count cause im number one" line and it ate
It’s weird that Audrey didn’t have her own character arc in Descendants 3, what with the hint in the beginning with her grandmother. It could’ve been a parallel to Mal’s where she realizes that she doesn’t have the same desires as her family.
I read somewhere that they had to scrap a bunch of the ending because of Cameron's death. (Though I could be wrong.)
EVERY TIME I talk about these movies to someone I have to bring up the canon necromancy bit because idk how to tell you this buddy but if you're raising the dead with unholy nature-defying dark arts just to throw them in a non-foolproof potentially escapable jail I think that should be an indicator its just not a good idea
And really, what was the point? At least most of these villains were dead so they couldn't do further harm but resurrecting them just to put them into a prison is a terrible idea and will just piss them off more. And when the barrier breaks (or drops), those villains will want revenge.
I always think about what you both said like why and my biggest question is who met who and decided all this and what was the price for it ESPECIALLY raising the dead Genie was specifically detailed about how it wasn’t pretty doing that and magically gave a gruesome example of it looked when laying down the rules to Aladdin…
@@juliusweaver3198especially with some of the more magically inclined villains.
Shadow Man was dragged to hell, Horned King was completely eviscerated, Hades was dragged into the depths of the underworld, Evil Queen was destroyed by falling off a cliff due to lightning, and Gaston fell into a massive ravine.
Who has the power to ressurect these villains, why would they, and how does puting them in an eternal purgatory fix anything???
I honestly feel like they were better off just retconning the villain’s deaths in these movies. like these movies already bend the canon of every movie featured in it, what’s stopping them from just saying the villains were only imprisoned or something
Disney: “Uh, fairytales are OUR thing!”
Also Disney: *Creates a worse version of Ever After High with a wonky plot and forgettable characters*
That’s what happens when you limit and half ass creativity 🤦🏾♂️ it could’ve been waaaaaaaaay better and more detailed and designed so much better with better explanations and plot but no
There is an ever expansive lore
It’s not “worse” it’s completely different outside of surface level similarities
Read the books sometimes
@@juliusweaver3198the explanations are in the books because the movies didn’t have time to explain everything
@@juliusweaver3198it’s actually very creative
@@juliusweaver3198it’s not half assed u just don’t pay attention to lore
i feel like cruella is such an odd villain lore wise to trap on this prison island. like you have magical archmages who have tried to curse royalty and take over kingdoms and then you have some rich woman with unethical choices in clothing like the scale they have to choose whether someone is a villain and deserved to be resurrected and tossed onto a prison island is real wide ngl. like, do you think any prisoner of the kingdoms gets thrown on this island? you get cought shoplifting and all of a sudden you get sent to live in poverty with an evil mage who can turn into a dragon like whats the justice system of this country like
Never thought about it like that.
I'm pretty sure that question is literally why Aladdin isn't in the movies. Like, he is undeniably the hero in his story, but he's also doing something illegal (and illegal=bad since it's a children's series), so I think they just kind of sidestepped that issue by making Jafar's son embody Aladdin's bad traits (briefly) and just not mentioning the rest of the movie.
I had the same thoughts about the Wicked Stepsisters. Like sure the stepmother is guilty of child abuse but at most the stepsisters were just bad people. is being a bitch illegal? Cinderella's whole thing was being kind and humble what were her thoughts on the matter?
most of the other villains were in stories where the main character either is or becomes royalty, so im imagining its rich powerful people doing awful things to be petty but cruella makes no sense?? like who even told belle and the beast that she existed?? one of the dogs???
@@adivorcee2357 Or Hook and Gaston - Gaston is literally just a himbo incel who tried.
I bet when someone would have just smacked his mind into the right place he would be a great man.
Hades has a point about Audrey being forgiven but he was definitely the wrong person to tell them. It should have been Uma or someone who didn't try killing his nephew for power.
Also I hate how Mal just forgave Hades for being an absent father. Yeah people forgive their parents for crazy things all the time but she made it very clear that him being absent was deeply traumatic for her. I think they should have had it so Maleficent forbid Hades from seeing Mal so she could mold her into her own image and we could have had an exchange like this instead:
"You abandoned me when I was a baby!"
"Your mom wouldn't let me be around you, I didn't have a choice"
Dude i think about this every time I've watched the 3rd movie. And not only that but they butchered his character too. The hades in descendents shares almost none of the same personality as the original and I feel like it consistently happened.
Because he grew
Also the fact that Hades is her dad in the first place 🤮🤮🤮🤮 yucky
@@demetriam2408The fact that Hades is even in a Disney movie and is portrayed as a villain is bad enough
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I have to say, it bothers me to no end that Mal’s hair has purple ends in the second movie. I think it’s supposed to be like she dyed her hair blonde and the purple is from it growing it out…but that is not how that works. Like at all. Her roots would be purple, not the tips.
It's because she dyed her hair, but wanted to keep a little of her identity so she left the tips purple.
is she meant to be naturally purple-haired? legit asking, idk. I assumed the implication was that Mal normally keeps her hair purple dyed, and so the ends are because she’s been growing out naturally blonde hair. I’ve thought too much about this now
@thatlycantomboy yes she is meant to be naturally purple, just like Evie is naturally blue. But to show that she's changed and to conform to the "princess way," she dyed it white and kept the tips purple to have a little part of who she was before Ben.
@@tealhiidi don't think she's meant to be naturally purple or evie is naturally blue though. in the second movie mal mentioned that dizzy was the one who initially dyed evies hair on the isle, and in the third movie they both have visible roots. im not 100% sure on this though if it was stated otherwise
I just thought of it as Mal bleached her roots as well and kept the roots purple. Once it grows more it’d be purple roots if that makes since
Horrible belated realization is that Disney just took all the bullet points from Descendants and handed them to Yana Toboso to make Twisted Wonderland, and it actually worked.
“Well I guess people still actually like Mr. Nomura’s wild ride, so I guess we can try that again.”
Some Disney executive somewhere
holy shit omg 😭😭
this is how i find out that the author of black butler made essentially an otome game with disney
@@_msayon You're welcome!
At the very least, Twisted Wonderland has better character design lmao
I’ve never seen these movies or read the books, so I might be biased based on the fact that I’ve only seen TH-cam analyses of them, but the whole premise of this seems horrifying. Like, imagine your entire life plot is about redemption and growing from a hateful person into someone changed by love, but then you bring dozens of villains back from the dead so you can torture them for things they’ve already DIED from, PLUS imprisoning and traumatizing their innocent CHILDREN for things their parents did. Like, what the fuck, Adam and Belle, that’s the exact opposite of your ENTIRE message.
Honestly it’s surprising that he didn’t get cursed AGAIN after this
@@whatamidoing8566THATS WHY I KEEP ASKING WHERE THE HELL IS THE ENCHANTRESS WHERES CIRCE 😭😭😭😭 even if it was for 5 seconds she played an important part in both their stories so they really think we’re supposed to believe she would let any of this bs slide auradon as a whole SHOULDVE been cursed heavily with the fuckery they were on part of me have this odd feeling she got locked in the isle with the villains
@@juliusweaver3198 Beast was misguided he wasn’t evil he was flawed but he was always open minded and always came around at the end of the day he never hated the VKs even if he was hesitant
U should
@@juliusweaver3198 That would make so much sense and bring up so many questions. Circe is a Greek deity, just like Hades. That would mean that Fairy Godmother is either canonically stronger than *two* separate gods or got help from someone who is. Who would that be?
Dove Cameron having chemistry with basically everyone BUT Mitchell Hope is still so freaking hilarious to me. 🤣
Also the sapphic vibes of the Descendants franchise are *exquisite*.~
Cameron Boyce’s death gets to me on a personal level.
He died from the same thing I had when I was a kid, I knew him from Jessie and these movies, and he wasn’t that far from my age at the time. He died far too young. He was a talented kid.
What happened to him?
@@tell-me-a-story- He died in his sleep due to Epilepsy.
He passed a month before I got my brain surgery to help with my epilepsy. I think about him a lot around this time of year.
There's two things that really piss me off with the franchise
1st how much of the astetic and characterization it's taken from the monster high concept (the wild hair colors, the "edgy" clothes, the characters having puny names that are based on their parents names)
2nd: how most people in Auradon seem like snooby jerk's by keeping so many inocent people in the island and treating them like shit when they're supposed to be the beloved Disney heroes we know so well, the worst example of this is Lonnie that despite been one of the nicest people in Auradon she acts really shallow and worry about her appearance in the frist movie
disney, of all companies, accidentaly creating a great allegory for how we treat native people in ex colonized countries (and minorities in our own countries) will never not be funny to me. because that's how it works right? speaking from my european prespective, we act all high and mighty, while actively harming the countries we say are third world. and those countries are that way now due to the way we fucked them up during the colonization times. we act like we're civilized and they're barbaric, when we're the ones using them for modern slavery, profiting off of child labour and exploiting all their resources. we do all this while portraying ourselves as the heroes who will eventually save those coutries, as long as they assimilate perfectly to our culture and leave anything related to their culture and ethnicity behind, of course.
@momomomo__ It's good to see a fellow sane and non-delusional person. Those are rare in discussions of politics.
Lonnie DOES NOT
“act shallow”??
I’ll never forget nor forgive Mattel for discontinuing Ever After High dolls because of these goofy aah movies
The TikTok account is recently become active again and said something will be coming soon!
@@snissa2515AHHHHH!!!!
@@snissa2515EAH FANS STAY WINNING
Well Mattel had lost the rights to make the Disney princess dolls because of that dispute and they wanted that Disney money.
Okay so I immediately got bad vibes from Beast “somehow” uniting multiple kingdoms under his realm, since historically that kinda stuff takes an extreme amount of violence. Everything managed to get somehow worse when they revealed he had absolute authority over the other states, and was immediately elected president (presumably for life) after “founding” the union meaning he wrote the constitution and can probably amend it will. The prison colony where children were imprisoned for being descendants of political opponents didn’t help either.
Don't forget his son becoming king (not president) at 16. Who voted for that?
O.M.G Yes!!! You know he only crowned Ben at 16 because he was getting pushed to step down and he wanted to keep the power in the family and within arms reach.
I really think given all that, that the words "got himself elected king" were picked very carefully (the writing of these series is a complete mess, but I feel like at least the real world parallel and the way it's explained in story were intentional and thought out). No one elected this man, he elected himself fr
Didn't fully watch the series, but I suspected the kids staying on the island being the parents fault not so much the king.
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Like the king probably asked if they wanted to release em but they would be raised by someone else but if they raise em themselves they can't leave
@@dandywaysofliving
You just can’t leave newborns on a prison island though? Even if the parents say that it’s fine and cool, _your_ the king, you are in charge, leaving the children in an open air prison and then pushing back and getting nervous when they get introduced to society for the first time is being a bad ruler.
Also, if they have behavior issues and commit crimes, that’s kind of partially your fault since you left them with no way of contacting the outside world and no other influence and authority figures then the criminals you deemed evil and enough of a problem to bring back to life and trap them in the worlds most secure prison with no guards from birth to experience lifelong abuse and extreme poverty and then expect them to come out of that with outstanding morals? He fully created the problems he and the rest of that kingdom are currently experiencing and left it for a sixteen year old who still answers to his parents to fix for an entire country.
lol this franchise is really banking on its audience not understanding that "unification" is the whitewashed word for "conquering" that is exclusively used by the historians of the conquering nation. and hey, that seems like a safe bet to me
Me realising that my childhood glorified imperialism
Wait, does this mean that The Confederacy was conquered by the Union in the American Civil War?...and yes, I DO want citions.
@@benya14-bo5rx this is written as if you dont understand that that IS what happened. maybe im crazy
the tokyo disney "villains' assistants" characters they brought out for one halloween had better outfits and characterization than the Descendants who had a whole movie trilogy and toy line 💀
man, ever after high really is the only thing to ever do anything interesting with the concept of 'what if fairytales but shared universe relationship drama'. mostly because it actually engages with the concept of what a fairytale *is*, and even then it only managed it for one season.
Once upon a time season 1 was awesome if you forget all the other seasons
@annoyingbookgirl4916 season 2 was pretty good too.
Once upon a time is arguably just as good as EAH though. It just gets not as good after the first two season
@@aurorachanel4502 It really degraded after they introduced Arendelle to the show. I think it should've ended in season 3.
I’m choosing to believe that jay and aziz were going to be romatic interests for eachother but bc it was 2015 they cut that concept and didn’t let it happen. Booboo Stewart is bi I believe and has done other MLM projects before so it makes a lot more sense than them just kinda being buddies
Oh hell yes if descendants werent movies and instead hour long tv shows on ABC or something i can 100% see that
Tbf on the whole "C list villains" thing, I feel like Celia was a natural one because people are REALLY down bad for Dr Facilier.
I think it doesn't make sense for Belle to be less inviting to villains, because the beast literally is a story of "don't judge a book by it's cover". This is literally the Disney version. She tolerated him until they fell in love. wtf
I love that the wicked stepsisters are on the isle and the implications that it brings. They weren't evil or anything just mean people. Did Auradon outlaw being a bitch? At what magnitude of bitchiness do you get imprisoned?
Well, in fairness, maybe they outlawed child abuse AND have a "Punish-The-Family- For-One-Persons-Crime" type thing? Seems on-brand given the whole prison island thing.
Especially because Anastasia made up with Cinderella in one of the movies and married her ugly baker guy.
1:24:15 As a kid who spent a long time in foster care and is now legally mandated no contact from my bio parents, I do want to note that after some time you do start to miss your parents even if they’re awful people.
yeahhh. :/
That’s probably the monkey part of the human brain
It drives me crazy that Audrey, of her own volition, did almost all the same things that malificent did for just selfish reasons and gets off with an “I’m sorry.” She needs to be sent to the isle! It’s only right
Except she didn’t. All she did was steal the scepter and do some small things (turn mal into a hag, and turn people to stone, which was easily reversed). You’re forgetting that Mal stole her boyfriend, it’s only right to seek for revenge
@@hrts4adinaI mean Mal didn’t even steal him. Ben dumped her and didn’t even look back. But cursing the king is probably treason.
Yeah but Maleficent is also straight up evil. Audrey’s just kinda rude.
@@SlimeMcfly stfu. Mal stole him with a love potion. He broke up with Audrey BECAUSE OF MAL.
my personal relationship headcanon is that on the isle, harry and jay were kinda secretly hooking up, secretly because uma and mal were rivals since they were 10, that was established. and so they were together-ish you know, as much as you can be in a place where love is frowned upon, so you know, like they were hanging out but not labeling it. anyway, when jay left for the isle, they had a fight and broke up. then in movie 3, because they're forced to team up, they have to talk, which leads to them making up and are ongood terms again. and jay meets gil, and they bond and decide to travel together, and during that year of traveling they fall in love, and it's adorable
Jay and Gil's ship name is quite literally Gay, so therefore they are meant to be
I ship Gay so much and I'm not even invested in these movies
I didn't like the introduction of Celia, like her character was fine, but the had already introduced Freddy (her older sister, apparently) who was voiced by China Anne McClain in Wicked World. However China was playing Uma in the live action so they couldn't use her character. And they portrayed Dr. Faciliar soooo differently. It showed that he and Celia had a Father/Daughter relationship, when Freddy had implied that he was neglectful to her, a man obessed with his past, like he was just like the main 4's parents. I know it was all swept to the side, but that inconsistency drove me insane. Just like how they established characters in the books and substituted them for different ones in the movie. Like how many kids do Captain Hook, and Gaston have? Or like how may siblings does Mal have through Hades that she never acknowledged? It's just so frustrating how uncoordinated the end of the franchise was.
I def peeped that too ngl I was like is this the same voodoo doctor was Freddy told us about or did I misheard her…. What gets me is wicked world is canon between movies yet the other characters were never acknowledged or mentioned Freddy Jordan Zevon Ali Cj hook and Rapunzel daughter who hair was only shown briefly like twice
Speaking of which, how did they get Dr. Facilier back of all people? How weak do they think contractual voodoo magic is?
That’s fair, but was the supplementary material supposed to be cannon. Cause it seems like they were all worked on by different teams.
Theres not enough discussion about how "your family will also be punished for your crimes with imprisonment for generations" is literally what North Korea does
I mean it’s only been one generation so far, they probably would’ve let them go…eventually
Ok but- hadies isn’t technically a villain anyway, he just guards the underworld
sure, but in the storied Disney canon he’s an outright villain, however. Y’know, that’s the Hades hat soul-enslaves Meg, tries to merc Herc? …honestly pretty surprised that Disney recognized 1999’s Hercules at all in these movies
@@thatlycantomboy well yeah lol I just find it interesting
Disney heroes: "We'll put Hades on a prison island from which he can't escape :)"
Hades, on Disneyland Alcatraz: "Ok, well, enjoy having the souls of the damned wander the earth since no one's guarding the Underworld, *fuckos* :)"
@@OhNoBohNohuh maybe thats why all those dead villains came back to life and were imprisoned on the isle, itd be a better idea than purposefully ressurecting them just to lock them up
Some of the villains aren't even real villains to
Like Gaston? Yeah, he is a mysoginistic asshole, but based on the time it takes place and that he thought that it would be something every woman wants/needs he seems just like - a bit to rude. Not more
jay and gil had some serioussssssssssssss flirting going on (even tho ppl will say it's a bromance), they were even planning on travelling the world, trying exotic fruits and cool activities and harry comes in and laughs at them while theyre picking berries off the bush and is like " LMAO THAT SOUNDS SO STUPID"
so i think that gil had feelings for harry but kinda realizes that hey some ppl are actually kind and dont belittle every thing you say or do, so it's another interesting toxic dynamic that's highlighted.
These movies are my guilty pleasure, like i know they are terrible but i be boping to the top with some of the songs
ong 💀
Omg yes some of the songs are just so damn catchy... And the outfits! There's so many good f****** outfits.
The plots are bad but so many of the songs are actually super catchy and fun.
it's camp and nobody can't change my mind. It makes me really happy
Ever after high is superior, Disney was mad but you can’t out do the doer 🤷🏽♀️
They both take unique approaches it’s not a competition they aren’t at all alike
No it was because they got greedy and rushed the manufacturing
Y’all are too blinded by your hate for descendants you can’t even see the truth
Also y’all don’t understand how ideas happen descendants was being planned way before ever after high was out or even a thing
Lmao do some research before making assumptions and also Disney didn’t even come up with the idea of descendants it was Melissa de la cruz
They didn’t even want to do it at first
Descendants was created by Melissa de La cruz and she pitched the idea to Disney
They didn’t even want to do descendants at first they had to be persuaded by Melissa de la cruz
*Descendants star Dove Cameron and author Melissa de la Cruz sat down for an in-depth interview about the series and explained just how everything works together.
"I was informed very early on...by the head of Disney Channel, Gary Marsh, that the reason this project has taken so long was because Disney Corporate had to approve of somebody officially embellishing on the original stories, because that is what we're doing," Dove explained.
"Anything else, like Once Upon a Time, hasn't actually been an official embellishment on the story," she continued, "We. Are. Canon."
Descendants was actually the first time Disney was officially touching the classic tales of their movies.
(By touching they mean continuing the continuity remakes don’t count)
"That's why it took so long, because apparently, Disney corporate was like 'That's a terrible idea, we don't want to mess with the original stuff.' And so [Gary] told me that. He was like, 'This is the first time that this is ever going to happen.'"
Dove adds, "Disney Channel is it's own thing, it's own beast, so to be told you're involved in the classics is like, there's nothing more delicious than that. I think that's why we're all so invested in the series and the franchise itself because it's the first time!"
"It's the deepest honor, so for me, it was less nerve-wracking and the most delicious opportunity."*
@@madnessarcade7447why is this written as though you're replying to different comments?
Edit: Learned why, every one of their comments is copy and pasted, block for spam
@@madnessarcade7447calm down
@@madnessarcade7447bro stfu. Ur under like ever comment that criticizes the movie 💀
Auradon functions 100% on Late Roman Republic/Early Roman Empire rules. that's how you get things like entire countries being redefined as something more like city-states or provinces, totally-legit "democratically" "elected" Kings passing on the throne to their children, citizenship being based on allegiance (which often turns into being based on usefulness to those in power), a deeply multicultural & diverse society that still has a (equally diverse) stratified underclass, etc etc. it's Rome. Auradon is if someone scooped all of Disney off of the tip of Florida and replaced it with Rome.
Rewatching this, i think the most fucked up thing in the entire series is the relationship between Chad/Cinderella and Dizzy.
As in, there isnt one. The character *most* defined by knowing what its like to grow up abused, in seclusion, and neglected hy family just doesnt spare a thought for her niece living in squalor. Nor does her son care about his cousin.
Omg I never thought about that
I think they’re going to do something about it in the 5th movie. Rise of Red seemed to be bringing up themes about family. Cinderella’s daughter(Chad’s younger sister) goes back in time, and sees how her mom is treated by Lady Tremaine. I’m pretty sure we see a character who’s supposed to be Drisela in the background of one of the scenes.
This feels like a wattpad Once Upon a Time highschool AU 😂
So evie being the daughter of evil queen makes her snow whites step sister, and evil queen wanting evie to marry a rich prince would mean that she could've just set snow white up with someone and became richer and forget about the whole beauty contest. Also, evie having a ship dynamic with dopys son, makes a really complicated family tree, considering she also probably goes to school with snow whites daughter and that make her essentially evies niece, and then snow white also is probably still close with the seven dwarves so then that makes things even more confusing.
To summarize: evie dates her sister's friend's child
I mean the Evil Queen died. So doesn’t that technically annul the marriage?
i was always curious as to how much info the author was given before writing the books because a lot of book details are in the movies like you said, but you would never know it if you hadn't read them. also in book one, there was a very weird scene where carlos was able to break the barrier long enough for the tv to have channels other than the official auradon news channel, and i think canonly in the book they're saying that disney channel is a thing, because carlos was describing a tv show about twins that look exactly like mal but they're blond, and i was like okay to dove was already cast as mal, but why add this detail like it's so random, what do you mean they have disney channel?
Lol I didn’t know that the decendants universe canonically crossed into other Disney universes
Dose that mean that Disney fairytale movies are just history documentaries?
“nooo don’t have a pokémon battle you’re so sexy” had me crying
i feel like some of the plotholes in descendants could’ve been solved if instead of everyone being disney character’s kids, some of them were grandkids. like it would at least solve the whole “why did all of these disney characters have kids at the same time” dilemma
I never really cared about this series, but I DO remember that I used to really love Uma,, like, pirate, pretty girl, AND part sea creature, are you kidding me??
I love seeing Dove Cameron’s lower lip getting bigger as the films progress
LMAOO
THIS IS WILDDDD
She didn't even need fillers or anything. She was already incredibly beautiful. I remember seeing her in some snow sport movie long before Descendants and thought "Wow! She looks like an angel come to life!" I suppose it says a lot about the industry or humanity that even someone as naturally stunning as Dove has things they're insecure about. It's sad, really, when there's plenty of young girls and mtf's that would love to look like Dove and Dove would apparently rather look like Kylie Jenner. Everyone is beautiful in their own unique way, the inner beauty is what matters most of all, and we really need to stop trying to fix what isn't broken and stop comparing ourselves to others. Would a rainbow be as beautiful if every color were the same?
It's her body and her choice. And besides, what does it matter if someone is getting filler or plastic surgery if it's for their own happiness and not someone else's.
@@michaelinthebathroom7560 I think there's reason to doubt that a popular teen actress at Disney got lip filler completely unpressured and of her own desire. The industry is rough as hell on young women.
not sure why no one is mentioning this, but there’s a big issue with the audio getting all crackly.. not that it ruins the video, but it is a bit bothersome
IKR I WAS MAD
I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST MY ME😭
My headphones have had some water damage and i thiught it was just that acting up 😅
I thought I was going nuts
I noticed too
i can absolutely see some of these villains being good parents, obviously not all of them who the hell got together with fucking cruella holy shit why would you do that to yourself, but like smee? i could see smee being at least a decent dad
I have a theory, but its definitely not a family friendly one. It rhymes with porridge and ends with a Y. Or possibly IES. Might explain why all the kids seem to be around the same age.
@@gypsywoman9140 what.
@@gypsywoman9140 orgy/orgies doesn't rhyme with porridge
@@gypsywoman9140explain.
Ohhhhh you think they were having mass orgies? I mean I guess why not, but do you think they have contraceptives on the island? Because if not then there might be a lot of teen pregnancy.
My favourite thing about these movies was 100% the costume designs, specifically the costumes for the residents of the isle of the lost, they're just so vibrant and fun.
One of the most annoying things this first movie did is that Carlos is terrified of dogs has been scared of them from young age. When he runs scared away from that dog and climbing a tree to get away from it. And then that boring Ben comes with the dog and says couple of words and BUM boring Ben gives the dog to Carlos 😑🤨 Seriously? If someone is terrified of something that fear doesn't go away with couple of words 😑🙄
I love Uma's little ragtag group of traumatized children in retaliation for being excluded when she was a kid
"Essentially the U.S.A. made a prison island -- very on brand." ...I have never heard of the Descendants, don't care about Disney, and have no idea why this was recommended to me, but less than 3&1/2 minutes in, liked & subscribed.
Edited to add: this was a delightful way to spend 90 minutes. Cheers!
originally i subbed for mbmbam animatics but THIS?? this is the hard hitting journalism ive been looking for!!
Thank you!! Honestly I thought everyone who subbed for mbmbam was gonna hate this so I really appreciate it
2:31 "Beast united all of the kingdoms and got himself elected king of the United States of Auradon."
To quote Monty Python:
"Well, I didn't vote for you!"
"you don't vote for kings"
one thing that i (as a brazilian) find funny is that Mal means “bad” or “evil” in portuguese, otherwise Bem (almost Ben) means “good”, so they’re literally the opposite of each other kinda of a yin-yang thing
You'd think the ember would've gotten wet being wrapped in Uma's previously submerged tentacles and in that flurry of water but it's okay it's fine
"If I'm not going to read the books, why do I own them? ......I don't have to justify myself to you" if that isn't the biggest book hoarder's mood
3:28 Beauty and the beast was before there were cars. Cruella had a car, so i guess B&tB also brought THEMSELVES back to life.
I was not expecting this but I love this so much. I was interested in the concept of Descendants when it came out but knew I had no intensions in watching any of them so thank you.
Plus love the Quinton Reviews vibe (idk if that was something you were going for) but still very distinctly different!
Lol you’re right, the intermissions were definitely inspired by QuintonReviews. I’m glad you liked it!
Corona’s name not being in the movie at least doesn’t date it even further.
Fun fact: The name "Auradon" likely comes from the old latin word for gold, "aurum." That slightly adds to how Auradon prides itself on its prestigious image.
these movies are such a guilty pleasure for our family 😭 so many fun memories watching them together, even as we question and roast the characters and the worlds LMAO
I love how they made a franchise about Disney Character's children, and there is no sign of Melody, Ariel's canonical daughter. Though the existence of Ariel's niece do at least imply that they'll acknowledge it by not acknowledging it and deliberately not giving Ariel any onscreen descendant for this, which is a weird attention to detail that the franchise usually lacks
Ntm Gothel's canonical daughter, Cassandra
They probably had to retcon any sequels, otherwise it would get too confusing.
I initially would've defended the truth gummy making a dog able to speak Emglish on the grounds of general magic BS, but then they use the dog as part of a setup/lie with no issue?? So he's not even forced to tell the TRUTH with the power of speech he gained from a truth gummy? Not even a "be careful not to let Uma ask him direct questions or say anything that would provoke him to respond directly because he can't lie", he's just...allowed to pretend the wand made him talk without any difficulty? Sure. Sure
You have the aura of a middle school teacher who has stopped caring about your class and just talk about whatever you want. I love it
I was such a big fan of eah! Still sad that it got canceled 😢 it didn’t deserve it
18:31 Seriously? In my opinion, that ballet was the only memorable thing about that entire series. Yes, the entire descendants series! I still listen to it years later. (I'm not upset, I promise.)
do NOT drag "Queen of Mean" my man.
That was my gosh-darn |Anthem| for almost a year. Love it!
My parents never made cookies specifically because I was sad, but I’m pretty sure they still loved me.
Sometimes love is baking cookies. Sometimes it's saving the last cookie for someone, or at least splitting it in half to share. Sometimes there are no cookies and that in itself is a reason to be sad.
I'm sure your parents do love you and I hope you have some cookies to enjoy
They didn’t (｡ ˇ‸ˇ ｡)
Sorry you had to find out this way.
No one ever tried to trick/force me into doing their homework in High School. I was smart and cute, so the motive was there if you're a 40 year old screenwriter, but in real life the most I'd get is "can I copy that?" If I said 'no' that was it. Also, I didn't really have any guys create some elaborate methods to get me to go out with them. Either talking to a girl is like the scariest thing in the world, or they're just up front with their flirting. Honestly I can't believe that most teen show writers can't remember what it was like. Really, I think what it all comes down to is that most writers forget is that teenagers are more concerned about what's going on in their own lives to be bothered with anyone else. But that isn't interesting. Seeing a bunch of people either avoiding conversation or else trying to be the center of attention to the point of annoyance isn't good drama. So yeah, unless you're some uber prick no one is forcing people to do assignments for them. At best, you're assigned a group activity and now you have to do everything because your team mates are unreliable morons. If a bully is going to do anything, it's make fun of you or try to fight you. They ain't looking for an A in class.
Also I think they did that long battle because that set is freaking amazing and probably expensive. So the director is like "we're using this mother f*cker."
uhmm im in highschool and i agree but also like no one wants to watch realistic teen shows they're fucking boring and we already know what that is like.
I’ve only vaguely heard of descendants before this but your humor and dry delivery made it so enjoyable
i’ve been obsessed with this trilogy of movies for so long. like i don’t even know why. i used to dedicate so much of my time to re-writing the janky plot and reworking the characters a little (just to personal taste) and i still find myself humming the songs and wanting to rewatch the movies. what a ridiculous set of movies. i can’t help but be so fond of it.
i'm a fully grown adult but i think queen of mean slaps so hard.
my single other thought is that this series would've been significantly better if the pairings were mal/evie, uma/audrey and ben/carlos for various reasons
UGH YES 😭😭😭😭😭
Ben and Carlos would be really good! Carlos would fall in love with a "dog like" guy, which could've added more layers in their stories. Also, Carlos would've liked art and fashion and Ben would've been more into literature and stuff, to mirror their parents.
Wajtttt you’re a genius for Uma X Audrey
The point is that the evil queen raised evie to be shallow and superficial that’s why she wasn’t focused on her intelligence
This is literally why everafter high was so much more clever about why all these different stories co-existing at the same time. Everyone must play a specific role or else there might be chaos within the kingdom. It acknowledges the balance of good and evil which is why children of villains and heroes go to the same school, but villains are still discriminated against despite not having a choice in the matter.
I love ever after and i think its so much more compelling that monster high ever was. It sucks that it got screwed over the way it did.
Yes! Raven was the first to refuse to go along with things and didn't want to be evil. Apple White being upset that Raven didn't want to poison her was lowkey hilarious. C.A Cupid's own love problems were intriguing. So on and so forth. Even the "mean" characters were shown to have a soft side; Duchess Swan was actually heart-wrenching when she explained why she didn't want to go along with things, much like Briar Rose's reasons but different. I wanted to see how their stories unfolded, to see if Cupid ever finds love for herself, and even the narrator family...they were so cute. The world of EAH was brilliantly done and perfectly fairy tale while bringing a whole new twist to it all.
petition to make all of the mal spinoffs official name malware
Pfft
Nah Evie n uma and the rest of the vks and aks need their shine
SIGNED.
These movies gave me such an ick when I was younger. I watched them just to watch them because they were so popular. I just didn't get it. It was also incredibly hard to watch the movies in a timely matter because I didn't have disney channel/cable. So the last movies I only watched once and never again for some reason.
I will say my favorite part of the whole series was the song "Queen of Mean." I would play it on a loop and just fell in love with the song. It's still iconic to me
i love that there's two extras in wheelchairs in the whole series. there's one towards the end of 'be our guest' and another when they announce that they'll bring down the barrier. it honestly might be the same one but i feel like their wheelchairs should be bedazzled. idk
every day i wake up and remember the harry and gil kiss picture exists. /pos
While I was hearing this video, I accidentally set my arms on fire with turpentine while cleaning pain from my arms. For a few seconds as I trashed around turning myself off, I could only hear the sound of my blood rushing through my ears and your voice explaining why Mal's friends got mad at her. It was one of the most traumatic experiences in my life, and now you will forever be a part of that memory. Anyways, I'm finishing the video as I dunk my arms on cold water.
omg sorry you lit yourself on fire lol
another thing that exists under the umbrella of descendants is a musical designed for high school/middle school theater departments. it’s a mixture of songs from the movies and original songs, and the plot line is a mashup of all 3 movies. the plot makes no sense at all if you’ve never seen the movies.
I would also like to point out the tension between Uma and Mal - she lived in Uma‘s head rent free for so long that she dreamed about making her squirm?? The fics write themselves
i really hate that the kids are fine with seeing their parents again. in the books, this idea was much more prevalent, but at least the main vk's parents were insinuated to be abusive or neglectful. usually, that would make you want to cut ties with them or never want to see them again. i know this is a kids show, but having the main characters be so willing to forgive isn't the right thing to be teaching kids in my opinion
I was weirdly saddened by Cameron’s death. Like, i’d never had a strong fixation or anything, and i wasn’t a huge fan of anything he was in, but it sent me into a depressive spiral for 3 months.
Anyone else get something like that? Not just for him, like I’ve heard it for robin Williams.
1:23:10 literally lmaooo
at some point Beast needed to step in cos Aurodon is now at massive risk bcos of bringing down the barrier.
and i HATE that they dont frame it as the kids parents want to change, it's the kids who reach out to these toxic, absive parents who up to this moment have shown literally no interest in changing or fostering healthy relationships w their kids.
it's so upsetting and angering cos what does that teach the kids who loved these characters bcos of the underlying absive parents storyline.
i still love descendants but as i've gotten older i realized the actual flaws
“Mickey mouse hates gay love” lmaooooo
I think Ben's parents didn't refuse his idea bc he was about to be crowned king soon anyways, so even if they no then he probably still would've done it once he was crowned (him being king at 16 is questionable but Disney movie logic)
Tbh him being king at 16 is like, the only believable part of this movie, because it's happened many times before. Some kings were even younger than that! But those are usually made king after the old king, y'know, dies, so still kinda weird
But...Lumiere says it's France.. But...Lumiere says it's France..
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the way these movies had me in a chokehold in middle school lol. looking back it's so bad 😭😭
Honestly, I think I like the dubstep for the location of the prison island. It gives off a gritty vibe, which is prefect for atmosphere