This is the first display of an omega class ships firepower. When I first watched this I wondered why no backup ships were brought considering they were fighting an advanced alien species - because they needed no reinforcements. After the very short battle I answered my own question - this is one seriously powerful ship.
Human warships might not have that much maneuverability, or artificial gravity...but they make up for it with some of the biggest damned guns and thick armor. Might not match up to any of the Older races very well, but something like the Streib or any current species, they can absolutely tank. Love the bit where the Agamemnon doesn't even finish coming out of the hyperspace portal and is already firing its big ass main guns.
Funny enough they never show the Omega Destroyers true firepower. Those beam cannons were considered "light weapons" and the two oval rectangle shape structure in front of the ships fires Gigaton class mines which are similar to the Narn's energy mines. Also along side of the ship were rows of red squares hatches which are 72 missile silos for more long range engagement. But coolest one I think is that fighters were originally meant to launch in the rotating section of the ship and use the centrifugal force to launch them similar to the Cobra Bays in the Babylon 5 station. Unfortunately due to limited CGI budget they couldn't show it which such a miss opportunity. Would have love to see what the Omega Destroyer can really do if they were able to show its true potential.
Delenn commented that the last Raider of the stribes was over minbari's space,unfortunadly for the stribes,the minbari's get to stribes home world AND the minbari's sure they never forget It!!!
If you mean the scene at 2:46. These aren't stribes. These are all the prisoners the Stribe took. During the battle, the Stribe are asked to surrender and release all those they have kidnapped. Instead, they push all the prisoners into space. In response, Cmdr. Ivanova also orders the ship to be destroyed, which the Earth Destroyer then does.
@@FurdemonLar Because, I guess, copyright law does not apply to CGI. Way to stay on the side of the angels. Also, of course, your critique clearly puts this into the realm of fair use.
The X-wing, as cool it looks, is actually a rather crappy design. Four engines but not in a position that would really help with manuvering much. Spread out guns that make sure you either need to compensate with using them as turrets or they don`t actually hit whats exactly in front of them, and useless wings that do nothing.
Which is pretty telling for this species' ability to learn given the Minbari already curbstomped them the last time they ventured out of their space. It's how the EA knew where to find them.
@@girlgarde - They might have done that in the past when they tried abducting Minbari. It likely ended with them losing a lot a ships. Since this was an Earthforce destroyer accompanied by a wing of starfuries, this was clearly an "official" response and not just some random folks trying to pull off a rescue on their own. The Streib likely considered that even if they called in more ships, so would Earthforce. Remember, the whole reason they do this is to see how easy to conquer a species might be. Based on Earthforce's response, the result of the experiment was probably that Humans aren't that different than Minbari when it comes to these situations and it's better for the Streib to keep their heads down rather than start a war.
Not shown in the video, but the Streib spacing their captives was the stupid move that resulted in an enraged Ivanova calling for the Agamemnon to take out the Streib ship, which they happily did as you can see.
01:53 Is this the only time we see a ship coming out of hyperspace through an "entrance vortex"? I wonder if this was just a CGI department goof or if those vortices are actually bidirectional.
Very bizarre design on that Streib ship. They may be able to pick on little fighters. But an Earth heavy cruiser? They're way out of their weight class!
More believable maybe? More down to earth? Maybe a bit more realistic? Those are my reasons, B5 showed humanity at it's worst AND best but more believable. Star trek tended to remain more optimistic and didn't really show humans at their worst.
Wonder if the name's that cuz supposedly JMS and Whitley Streiber ahd, let us say a , um, disagreement? About WS aliens books, where humans are abducted.
EA did win the dilgar war. Doesn’t change that Earth is a middle power, Minbari easily beat them, and shadows/vorlons could easily single fight beat the minbari.
@@Cjdergrosse Far as i remember the Minbari only won because their Stealth Systems meant Earth ships had to close to literally point-blank range just to get any hits.
@@Cjdergrosse yes, said in passing and explored in expanded material. To the original commenter’s point, it’s nice to SEE an EA ship actually do something against an alien power. Only at the end of the series, when the Drahk became a punching bag for the ISA did we see any EA ship live up to its reputation as a true middle power. And by middle power, I mean one of the major younger races. For example, despite how much the star fury is praised, can you think of visual examples of them besting alien fighter craft, with the exception of raider or centauri/Narn transports? Even in lost tales, the only shot shows a centauri fighter wiping them.
@@Cjdergrosse EA won the Dilgar war with Hyperion class ships - we've seen an Omega take out a hyperion in a single blast in Severed dreams. We've also seen an Omega one shot a white star - although sadly it was already on a collision course and took out the omega as well.
So much information for A Season- I Hope the Reboot gives us 2 Seasons with A Sinclair before Sheridan pops in command....now I'm hearing Game of Thrones Prequel was cancel...
That shot of the Agamemnon coming out of the jump point.... *Chef kiss*
Agreed!
With the Battle Lasers blazing. *Chef kiss*
Yes. Another good point why b5 is the best sci-fi series ever. Because why not.
Oh yeah, with the Minbari flyers too, I love teamwork. And Susan and the Agamemnon's captain weren't messing around either.
This is the first display of an omega class ships firepower. When I first watched this I wondered why no backup ships were brought considering they were fighting an advanced alien species - because they needed no reinforcements. After the very short battle I answered my own question - this is one seriously powerful ship.
Human warships might not have that much maneuverability, or artificial gravity...but they make up for it with some of the biggest damned guns and thick armor. Might not match up to any of the Older races very well, but something like the Streib or any current species, they can absolutely tank.
Love the bit where the Agamemnon doesn't even finish coming out of the hyperspace portal and is already firing its big ass main guns.
Funny enough they never show the Omega Destroyers true firepower. Those beam cannons were considered "light weapons" and the two oval rectangle shape structure in front of the ships fires Gigaton class mines which are similar to the Narn's energy mines. Also along side of the ship were rows of red squares hatches which are 72 missile silos for more long range engagement. But coolest one I think is that fighters were originally meant to launch in the rotating section of the ship and use the centrifugal force to launch them similar to the Cobra Bays in the Babylon 5 station.
Unfortunately due to limited CGI budget they couldn't show it which such a miss opportunity. Would have love to see what the Omega Destroyer can really do if they were able to show its true potential.
Delenn commented that the last Raider of the stribes was over minbari's space,unfortunadly for the stribes,the minbari's get to stribes home world AND the minbari's sure they never forget It!!!
Best sci-fi show ever made.
I wonder if the name "Streib" is an nod to Whitley Streiber who wrote books about Gray aliens and their abductions of humans.
Interesting idea, maybe
Greys do cameo in the show, fittingly entitled "Grey 17 Is Missing"
It is, actually! IIRC Stracynzski mentioned that in canon the Streibs were named for Whit!
if thats true then that would be one awesome easter egg reference i mean
Yes, it is.
Probably the best Omega appearance, and those Streib flying into space after a few shots👌
If you mean the scene at 2:46. These aren't stribes. These are all the prisoners the Stribe took. During the battle, the Stribe are asked to surrender and release all those they have kidnapped. Instead, they push all the prisoners into space. In response, Cmdr. Ivanova also orders the ship to be destroyed, which the Earth Destroyer then does.
@@Lightsoul1987 ah yes
You didn't put in Ivanova's reactions to the Streib spacing their captives. She said "Those arrogant sons of.... TAKE THEM DOWN!" in an angry tone.
Sorry, but that part was live action and I'm only posting CGI.
That is the best part of the whole interaction.
and the fact that it was the Agamemnon responding to her order
@@FurdemonLar Because, I guess, copyright law does not apply to CGI. Way to stay on the side of the angels. Also, of course, your critique clearly puts this into the realm of fair use.
Ooo, they should definitely have not pissed her off as she is Death, destroyer of worlds…
Never see an X-wing flip around like a Starfury.
Science guys often say the Starfury is the best design of a space fighter to date.
@@harryc1971 We could build something like it with modern tech, but it's fuel range would be pretty bad until we get better tech.
@@danielboatright8887 unless you use ion drives like satellite systems use. Specially with a carrier ship for maintenance and reloads/refuel
The X-wing, as cool it looks, is actually a rather crappy design. Four engines but not in a position that would really help with manuvering much. Spread out guns that make sure you either need to compensate with using them as turrets or they don`t actually hit whats exactly in front of them, and useless wings that do nothing.
Its not unlike the design for The Last Starfighter?
The Streib ship may have been designed for hit-and-fade kidnap ops but was definitely out of its league in a straight-up fight!!
Which is pretty telling for this species' ability to learn given the Minbari already curbstomped them the last time they ventured out of their space. It's how the EA knew where to find them.
I do wonder though why the Streib didn't send any other ships to save their abductor ship?
@@girlgarde Given that they weren't expecting to be hit, they likely didn't have heavy combat assets near enough to save their ship.
@@girlgarde - They might have done that in the past when they tried abducting Minbari. It likely ended with them losing a lot a ships. Since this was an Earthforce destroyer accompanied by a wing of starfuries, this was clearly an "official" response and not just some random folks trying to pull off a rescue on their own. The Streib likely considered that even if they called in more ships, so would Earthforce. Remember, the whole reason they do this is to see how easy to conquer a species might be. Based on Earthforce's response, the result of the experiment was probably that Humans aren't that different than Minbari when it comes to these situations and it's better for the Streib to keep their heads down rather than start a war.
I never recall seeing this episode. 2:48 is very disturbing... Didn't see the rescue of that fighter pod..
Not shown in the video, but the Streib spacing their captives was the stupid move that resulted in an enraged Ivanova calling for the Agamemnon to take out the Streib ship, which they happily did as you can see.
Got to love those Starfurys.
Bad Greys getting their asses kicked. Gooooood!
2:47 If you look closely there's a lemming floating in space from the game lemmings
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😆😆😆😆 - "Oh No!"
Oh dear God that is funny.
LOL, Is it coz the CGI was animated on Amigas?
01:53 Is this the only time we see a ship coming out of hyperspace through an "entrance vortex"? I wonder if this was just a CGI department goof or if those vortices are actually bidirectional.
Probably a goof. You don't see any ship lined up to go into that jump point.
Very bizarre design on that Streib ship.
They may be able to pick on little fighters. But an Earth heavy cruiser? They're way out of their weight class!
Specifically, a cruiser designed with lessons from the Earth-Minbari war in mind.
@@danielhaire6677 And motivated by the person they were called to help rescue being their former Captain.
I remember that episode!
Why do I tend to remember the B5 episodes more than Star Trek?
More believable maybe? More down to earth? Maybe a bit more realistic?
Those are my reasons, B5 showed humanity at it's worst AND best but more believable. Star trek tended to remain more optimistic and didn't really show humans at their worst.
@@keithgolden77 except for DS9 and a few episodes of Voyager, but yes that's a valid point.
@@Darkwintre That would be a very good point on including DS9 into it except.....it's a known fact that Ds9 was a rip off of B5.
Wonder if the name's that cuz supposedly JMS and Whitley Streiber ahd, let us say a , um, disagreement? About WS aliens books, where humans are abducted.
All those poor hostages
How would the Streib stand up against a Shadow Battlecrab? Or would they even try?
well it's nice to see an earth ship actually destroy an enemy ship for once
No kidding.
Relentless abject defeat gets old, especially when it’s by overpowered aliens who never suffer damage even from direct hits.
EA did win the dilgar war. Doesn’t change that Earth is a middle power, Minbari easily beat them, and shadows/vorlons could easily single fight beat the minbari.
@@Cjdergrosse Far as i remember the Minbari only won because their Stealth Systems meant Earth ships had to close to literally point-blank range just to get any hits.
@@Cjdergrosse yes, said in passing and explored in expanded material. To the original commenter’s point, it’s nice to SEE an EA ship actually do something against an alien power. Only at the end of the series, when the Drahk became a punching bag for the ISA did we see any EA ship live up to its reputation as a true middle power. And by middle power, I mean one of the major younger races.
For example, despite how much the star fury is praised, can you think of visual examples of them besting alien fighter craft, with the exception of raider or centauri/Narn transports? Even in lost tales, the only shot shows a centauri fighter wiping them.
@@Cjdergrosse EA won the Dilgar war with Hyperion class ships - we've seen an Omega take out a hyperion in a single blast in Severed dreams. We've also seen an Omega one shot a white star - although sadly it was already on a collision course and took out the omega as well.
What episode was this from?
Please read the details between the video and the comments.
@@FurdemonLar there is no such details between ideo and comments
@@lour7299 I'm sorry, but you've somehow missed it. I can see the requested info plain as day without even having to click "SHOW MORE"
@@lour7299 on the title line of the video, over to the right there’s an arrow pointing down. Tap that arrow to expand the details section.
It always irritated me how stupid and weak the Human forces were. Send in forces right away.
Delenn had them all wiped out I'm pretty sure.
I’ve never seen this episode
I don't remember this at all. Like at all.
So much information for A Season- I Hope the Reboot gives us 2 Seasons with A Sinclair before Sheridan pops in command....now I'm hearing Game of Thrones Prequel was cancel...
1:53 wrong color, wrong spin! Obviously some reused stuff.
Quite botched I would say. Try again.
They Spaced all their captives before getting destroyed