I’m very glad to see how much credits they gave to Steve Hackett. He was so important in the sound of Genesis. He was the one refining the sound, sometimes very subtly but it made all the difference. It must have been not always easy for him to work with Tony Banks who always wanna take all the space. But he manage to do greater things. He is an amazingly original guitarist. I had the chance to shake hands with him and He’s an awesome guy. I just love him.
When I was a young lad I used to listen to the Beatles, The Doobie Brothers, Eagles, Status Quo, Led Zeppelin, The Doors, The Stones, Old REO Speedwagon, Slade, and I think you get the the jist of this, straight up Rock and Roll. Then I moved to another part of town in grade 12 and met a few guys there that invited me to come over get high and listen to Genesis. Genesis? Who the hell was Genesis. They got me high sat me down, put on The Lamb and told me to read through the liner notes that Peter Gabriel (who) had written about the story of Raels journey. It was not an easy read. Well, that was it for me. I mostly stopped listening to top 40 rock bands and delved into Progressive Rock and other bands that were "progressive". (I didn't even know there was such a thing) I then started listening to Genesis, Yes, ELP, Pink Floyd, Focus, Mike Oldfield, Roy Harper (acoustic prog), etc. I just kept progressing forward. I also loved the Bonzo Dog Do Dah Band (The Bonzos) and Monty Python, though not progressive rock but great musicians and comedians (Vivian Stanshall) plus Monty Pythons Flying Circus. 😆😂🤣 Jump ahead 50 years, and because of that time in my life I am still listening to those bands but now I have progressed into Jazz and learning to love it almost 👍as much as Genesis. Genesis was a gift to all of us and to quote Genesis "we may never see the likes them again". Lets cherish what we had by continuing to introduce the younger generations to this unique band so they can share with the generations further down the road in time. GO WEST YOUNG MAN Cheers to all of you prog fans and keep moving it forward 🚀
First saw them in 1971 on stage at a local cinema as a support band, the days when they preferred to be a studio band and not live. They blew everyone away with their originality, superb musicianship, PG's theatricals and just wonderful symphonies of music. NC and Foxtrot were two of the best Prog albums of all time and I feel so lucky I was there then to witness their evolution. Some 50+ years on and they still sound so special on these tapes and recordings, the rawness before PG and SH left and they became a commercial success. M J Ford
Absolutely agree with you. I remember being 11 and discovering Nursery Cryme. It was a really captivating experience. Genesis' music from those years has been part of my deeper self ever since.
That was a very enjoyable documentary but I did find it bizarre that the discussion of the "Selling England" album didn't make even a passing mention of "Firth of Fifth" or "Cinema Show", two of the all-time classic Genesis tracks.
I wanted to write exactly the same thing. Not a single mention of these absolute classics! And the whole Lamb lies down on Broadway Album is coverd in less then 3 minutes, and gets only 4 out of 5 stars... Seriously, what were they thinking?
Terrific documentary; I must say even though the Gabriel era is the most lauded, and justifiably so, my two favourite albums are "Trick of the Tail" and "Wind and Wuthering". They're the most evocative, reflective and Romantic of the band's output without forsaking their progressive roots.
Tony Banks did for Genesis what Ray Manzarek did for the Doors. His keyboard textures added a level of drama to the music that it would otherwise be incomplete without
It’s incredible, from now getting close to 50(!!) years since the middle of this period, to reflect that at the SAME time all this majestic Genesis work was coming out, there were other absolute giants of Prog, Heavy Rock, Pop, Country Rock, Glam all absolutely smashing down musical walls Pink Floyd Yes Led Zep The Eagles ABBA (yes indeed) Deep Purple Elton John David Bowie etc etc etc and endless lists of magical singer songwriters, fabulous Soul sounds and plenty more creativity! Comparing with today… My 16 yo son is in awe of the stunning range of stuff I can play him in the car on the school run from that blessed decade! It must have been all the lead in the petrol, lindane in the soil, and CFCs in the air, plus the 3-day week, oil crises, threat of MAD and the endless inflation that saw these guys & girls just lock themselves away and let their imaginations fly to somewhere in the future where times would be less crazy. (Well they were wrong on that point, for sure)!!
Seconds Out is a great live LP. It contains the best-ever rendition of "Supper's Ready". This performance of "Apocalypse In 9/8" and "As Sure As Eggs Is Eggs" is absolutely enthralling and riveting. I believe that losing Steve Hackett was more consequential than Peter Gabriel's departure. Without Hackett's brilliance, this band slid into the commercial pop-rock malaise and never recovered.
You make a good point I hadn’t really thought of. I think losing Gabriel then Hackett in short order was a one-two punch that was fatal. But Gabriel leaving was inevitable. Hackett was more of a tragedy because the first two albums after Gabriel were so amazing, yet he saw the writing on the wall. (Gabriel simply wrote his own wall.) Hackett took the prog genius/guitar magic out of the band and was more sorely missed-essentially handing it over to Phil’s POV. You could say that MTV/80s was a sea change no band could battle (Yes, ELP, Zeppelin, Floyd) and you’d be right on one level. But could Genesis with Hackett have been the band to survive that decade unscathed and then reconnected with Gabriel in the ‘90s? That’s MY wacky thesis. Also? Yes “Seconds Out” is stunning especially “Supper,” but a ‘73 Gabriel version is my favorite- Leicester, Feb. 25. The one left off their first live album but readily available. Anyway, love to hear from another passionate Genesis fan.
@@TheJoshuamooney Your comments are all thoughtful and insightful. Although it marked the end of Genesis as a great and iconic band, Steve Hackett's departure was the best move for him personally, and for his career. For whatever reason, Tony Banks refused to give Hackett his deserved creative input in the band's songwriting process. Outside of Genesis, Hackett was free to compose and perform on his own terms, and he did so with a vengeance.
I attended the selling England concert and the Syria Mosque was 1/2 or less of capacity, by the time they toured The Lamb they put on two sold out performances…. What a fantastic band, both visually and musically.
This band as been my life since 1971 and still do I breath this band saw them on every tour from the lamb to domino tour last year no band touches this band
The people interviewed were interesting. The seemed to have deep appreciation yet had fresh critical takes compared to the same old you-tuber regurgitation. I have seen a lot of Genesis docu/analysis and this was a good addition to the mix.
Firth of Fifth best song ever. And other great songs like Apocalypse in 9/8,Fountain of Salmacis, Cinema Show, White Mountain, The Knife, Entangled, Seven Stones, Carpet Crawlers, Anyway. It's a long list of Masterpiece
I find it sad that he so rarely gets the recognition he deserves as a drummer. It's telling that, on the first post-Gabriel tour, they brought in Bill Brufford to play drums. I mean, who else?
I think at 1:05, Phil must have been speaking about me - I was one of those who would see Genesis, Siouxsie and the Banshees and other genres all within a few months of each other. And still listen to the same eclectic mix of music now.
Great documentation until... yes until the middle! The early real Genesis (until Selling by the pound) were one of the biggest and best bands that ever lived! The big break came with “Lamb lies down”! on "Trick of" there were a few brief moments, a brief flicker, before the band disappeared into the commercial smoke! They still released some great pop songs, but the really great stuff of the early years, the "Soul" was simply lost! "Trespass", "Nursery Crime", "Foxtrot" and "Selling England" are their contribution to progressive rock music, great Masterpieces, that will live on forever!! Unfortunately, this documentation also becomes weaker from around the middle, the concept is lost and the new commentators lose themselves in (suitable) irrelevance. A pity...😢..
Wait... I agree the "Lamb lies down..." marked a turning point with the sound of the band but you can't throw in the same bag "A trick of the tail" (a very good album with too much "mushy" moments") with the "Lamb .." which is an outstanding work melting rock, prog and pop like never before 😉
"In that Quiet Earth", always reminds me of the TV Series that was hosted by Leonard Nimoy ('Star Trek's character, "Spock") called; *_In Search Of_* ...
I'd love someone to quiz Pete or the others regards the lyrics on IKWYL.. especially the 'in your wardrobe' bit!! I mean he got into public cross dressing early with the Dublin gig but cmon Pete 42:13 looks fruity lol 😂
Like Phil said (for the jest of it, not ver batim), “ It’ve been fine with me if Peter had stayed with Genesis and I’d’ve stayed on the drums… you know, just keep things the same”… but … we’ll never know. Genesis was a great band… and then, so was Yes, Todd Rundgren, The Beatles, Steely Dan, Jethro Tull, Chicago, Gentle Giant, Frank Zappa and The Mother’s of Invention, The Pretty Things, Kansas, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Pink Floyd, Pat Metheney, Jeff Beck, Cream, Journey, Blind Faith, Grand Funk Railroad, and of course… Peter Brian Gabriel.
I haven't looked this fully through yet, so I'm not sure if the story of the guys refusing to go on stage at a venue in 1970 (Belgium, possibly), is told here. But I believe it was something to do with extremely shoddy wiring. Does anyone else know this story?
I think there was a point there they were in Scotland about to go on stage but the Hot voltage was going to the stage structure. See Gallo book were this story is mentioned.
@@lymangreen5020 Blimey! Lucky they knew there was a serious issue. Stone the Crows weren't so lucky 2 years later. The Waterboys had a similar issue in County Donegal in 2021, I think.
Why jump from Stagnation to Musical Box and missing out The Knife, which stayed in their live performances in the years to come. Whereas Stagnation didn't stay in the set list for very long
The photo at 1:46:38 puzzles me. Phil's kit is on the left, Chester's on the right. Anybody have the story behind the unusual setup? (My guess is that this was taken during tour rehearsal for W&W)
There's a scene in Alan Partridge when the young, hip hotel worker is testing AP's musical cred, asking what his favourite Beatles album is. Trying to be cool, he chooses their Greatest Hits album. 😂 Similarly, I'd probably go for Seconds Out as crystalising the older Genesis, before things started to change. After that - for me - there was the odd track, the occasional moment, on albums like Duke, where they shone, but musically it was a time of decline. The cash rolled in, Phil became a pop star, and I just lost interest. He remains a drumming hero for me, and the drum duets with Bruford and Thompson were brilliant, but I guess I kind of felt let down by all the superficial, computerised, commercial dross that followed. As an old coffin-dodger, I want to be wowed by the skill and theatre of something like the Lamb, or Firth of Fifth and so on - I just can't get excited by the later stuff. Sad ending too, all that money, all that fame and success, and PC ends up shrunken and ravaged by illness, barely able to limp on stage, his limbs useless, his voice weak - kind of breaks my heart. But the great music of the past will always be there, never to be repeated.
These narrator guys here don't seem to understand what we as teenagers went through 1971-73 with Genesis. Selling England by the Pound was the downfall of their original raw sounds and the reason why PG left as he could see the more commercial sound path they were now taking. SH left not long after for the same reason and these guys are totally wrong to say SEBTP was their best album. If they were there in 71-73 and saw these incredible concerts as I did, then they would recognise Foxtrot was their best album by far. But there again, each to their own....
main comment... thank you! great era and great band that can be covered endlessly. quibbles... skipping the lamb entirely? can't do that. and sorry but the dude with the korg just doesn't get any of this. all of his "demonstrations" are unmusical and/or miss the point. need Rick Beato and his minions on this. maybe I should....... nahhhh........ we'll see....
After Gabriel and Hackett, they were dreadful. I really tried to listen to them but I couldn't get into the pop direction. Phil as a pop star got very boring for me.
Genesis, Schemisis. You've been bamboozled . Who expects to be paid for stinking up the industry with "Soo Soo Soodio"? I'll tell you, Phil Collins. Then there's that "hah hah" barking. Time to exit, stage rear, Mr. Collins.
@@ihatespam2 Problem with that is, they *returned* to their traditional style after Peter left. There's two more albums before anything starts to change and it isn't really a different band until Abacab in 1981. Phil was an amazing drummer - quite a bit like Bill Bruford.
I’m very glad to see how much credits they gave to Steve Hackett. He was so important in the sound of Genesis. He was the one refining the sound, sometimes very subtly but it made all the difference. It must have been not always easy for him to work with Tony Banks who always wanna take all the space. But he manage to do greater things. He is an amazingly original guitarist. I had the chance to shake hands with him and He’s an awesome guy. I just love him.
"Fountain of salmacis" is, in my humble opinion, THE best, most beautiful song ever written by 21 year olds. Genesis were different gravy!
I've always felt the same about that marvellous piece of music
Only the most talented musicians can come up with music like this at 21.
Personal taste of course but... Supper's ready, The Musical box, Firth of filth.... 😉
And "Ripples" is the most beautiful song.... Full stop!
When I was a young lad I used to listen to the Beatles, The Doobie Brothers, Eagles, Status Quo, Led Zeppelin, The Doors, The Stones, Old REO Speedwagon, Slade, and I think you get the the jist of this, straight up Rock and Roll. Then I moved to another part of town in grade 12 and met a few guys there that invited me to come over get high and listen to Genesis. Genesis? Who the hell was Genesis. They got me high sat me down, put on The Lamb and told me to read through the liner notes that Peter Gabriel (who) had written about the story of Raels journey. It was not an easy read.
Well, that was it for me. I mostly stopped listening to top 40 rock bands and delved into Progressive Rock and other bands that were "progressive". (I didn't even know there was such a thing) I then started listening to Genesis, Yes, ELP, Pink Floyd, Focus, Mike Oldfield, Roy Harper (acoustic prog), etc. I just kept progressing forward.
I also loved the Bonzo Dog Do Dah Band (The Bonzos) and Monty Python, though not progressive rock but great musicians and comedians (Vivian Stanshall) plus Monty Pythons Flying Circus. 😆😂🤣
Jump ahead 50 years, and because of that time in my life I am still listening to those bands but now I have progressed into Jazz and learning to love it almost 👍as much as Genesis.
Genesis was a gift to all of us and to quote Genesis "we may never see the likes them again". Lets cherish what we had by continuing to introduce the younger generations to this unique band so they can share with the generations further down the road in time.
GO WEST YOUNG MAN
Cheers to all of you prog fans and keep moving it forward 🚀
From 1970-1980 Genesis were the best band for me. Ever. Incredible musicians.
70-78
Yes and Gentle Giant were my highlights of this time. Genesis came in third but I still love them!
First saw them in 1971 on stage at a local cinema as a support band, the days when they preferred to be a studio band and not live. They blew everyone away with their originality, superb musicianship, PG's theatricals and just wonderful symphonies of music. NC and Foxtrot were two of the best Prog albums of all time and I feel so lucky I was there then to witness their evolution. Some 50+ years on and they still sound so special on these tapes and recordings, the rawness before PG and SH left and they became a commercial success. M J Ford
Thanks for sharing!
Absolutely agree with you.
I remember being 11 and discovering Nursery Cryme. It was a really captivating experience. Genesis' music from those years has been part of my deeper self ever since.
Great story tellers with spectacular musicianship, Genesis took you on a magical journey with their musical style..😎👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Foxtrot is my favorite Genesis album, but I love all the ones from the 70s almost just as much when it comes down to it.
That was a very enjoyable documentary but I did find it bizarre that the discussion of the "Selling England" album didn't make even a passing mention of "Firth of Fifth" or "Cinema Show", two of the all-time classic Genesis tracks.
I wanted to write exactly the same thing. Not a single mention of these absolute classics!
And the whole Lamb lies down on Broadway Album is coverd in less then 3 minutes, and gets only 4 out of 5 stars...
Seriously, what were they thinking?
Yeah.. Not the best distribution of time was spent on their truly great work.
Terrific documentary; I must say even though the Gabriel era is the most lauded, and justifiably so, my two favourite albums are "Trick of the Tail" and "Wind and Wuthering". They're the most evocative, reflective and Romantic of the band's output without forsaking their progressive roots.
Ooh yeah! Trick especially (for me).
Tony Banks did for Genesis what Ray Manzarek did for the Doors. His keyboard textures added a level of drama to the music that it would otherwise be incomplete without
...как и без любого другого музыканта Genesis
Young Gabriel's voice is one of the all time best.
“Watcher of the Skies “ is an absolute “tour de force “ from start to finish ..
Thanks for this, this was the whole period i am a huge Genesis fan for, what came after is no longer my thing
It’s incredible, from now getting close to 50(!!) years since the middle of this period, to reflect that at the SAME time all this majestic Genesis work was coming out, there were other absolute giants of Prog, Heavy Rock, Pop, Country Rock, Glam all absolutely smashing down musical walls
Pink Floyd
Yes
Led Zep
The Eagles
ABBA (yes indeed)
Deep Purple
Elton John
David Bowie
etc etc etc
and endless lists of magical singer songwriters, fabulous Soul sounds and plenty more creativity!
Comparing with today…
My 16 yo son is in awe of the stunning range of stuff I can play him in the car on the school run from that blessed decade!
It must have been all the lead in the petrol, lindane in the soil, and CFCs in the air, plus the 3-day week, oil crises, threat of MAD and the endless inflation that saw these guys & girls just lock themselves away and let their imaginations fly to somewhere in the future where times would be less crazy.
(Well they were wrong on that point, for sure)!!
Seconds Out is a great live LP. It contains the best-ever rendition of "Supper's Ready". This performance of "Apocalypse In 9/8" and "As Sure As Eggs Is Eggs" is absolutely enthralling and riveting. I believe that losing Steve Hackett was more consequential than Peter Gabriel's departure. Without Hackett's brilliance, this band slid into the commercial pop-rock malaise and never recovered.
That was Phil's Doing.
Abacab > The Phil Collins Band
You make a good point I hadn’t really thought of. I think losing Gabriel then Hackett in short order was a one-two punch that was fatal. But Gabriel leaving was inevitable. Hackett was more of a tragedy because the first two albums after Gabriel were so amazing, yet he saw the writing on the wall. (Gabriel simply wrote his own wall.) Hackett took the prog genius/guitar magic out of the band and was more sorely missed-essentially handing it over to Phil’s POV. You could say that MTV/80s was a sea change no band could battle (Yes, ELP, Zeppelin, Floyd) and you’d be right on one level. But could Genesis with Hackett have been the band to survive that decade unscathed and then reconnected with Gabriel in the ‘90s? That’s MY wacky thesis. Also? Yes “Seconds Out” is stunning especially “Supper,” but a ‘73 Gabriel version is my favorite- Leicester, Feb. 25. The one left off their first live album but readily available. Anyway, love to hear from another passionate Genesis fan.
Genesis was always a great band, but without Gabriel and Hackett, they lost their artistic center and gradually became annoying.
@@TheJoshuamooney Your comments are all thoughtful and insightful. Although it marked the end of Genesis as a great and iconic band, Steve Hackett's departure was the best move for him personally, and for his career. For whatever reason, Tony Banks refused to give Hackett his deserved creative input in the band's songwriting process. Outside of Genesis, Hackett was free to compose and perform on his own terms, and he did so with a vengeance.
The stream....thanks so much for this..❤ such memories
Good information, good interviews, not to mention the old footage..thanks again😊
Our pleasure!
I attended the selling England concert and the Syria Mosque was 1/2 or less of capacity, by the time they toured The Lamb they put on two sold out performances…. What a fantastic band, both visually and musically.
Thanks for the Docu.!!
Our pleasure!
Selling england by the pound,the top of genesis music!after 50years. Îs the same fantastic album!
Seconds out is brilliant!
That was my real first introduction to their music. Fell in love with it.
I love this band ❤
This band as been my life since 1971 and still do I breath this band saw them on every tour from the lamb to domino tour last year no band touches this band
Saw them 7 times! Phil twice!
The people interviewed were interesting. The seemed to have deep appreciation yet had fresh critical takes compared to the same old you-tuber regurgitation. I have seen a lot of Genesis docu/analysis and this was a good addition to the mix.
Glad you found it refreshing!
So great...
The narrators make some small points that i disagree with, but I like the documentary. "Stagnation" is the my favorite song on Tresspass
I agree. And for me "Fountain of salmacis" is the best, most beautiful song ever written by 21 year olds, and is the best song on Nursery Crimes.
Imagine these guys when they got on stage, and 5 minutes later, your lead singer comes out in a fox head and a dress.. Superb chaos..
Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Firth of Fifth best song ever. And other great songs like Apocalypse in 9/8,Fountain of Salmacis, Cinema Show, White Mountain, The Knife, Entangled, Seven Stones, Carpet Crawlers, Anyway. It's a long list of Masterpiece
I forgot how Phil Collins was a fantastic drummer!
Phil collins was a Awesome Drumer and a Fantastic singer.
Dig the first two "Brand X" albums.
@@kevinogracia1615 Thanks, I will.
I find it sad that he so rarely gets the recognition he deserves as a drummer. It's telling that, on the first post-Gabriel tour, they brought in Bill Brufford to play drums. I mean, who else?
@@bobparker8294 And Chester Thompson! Check out Phil's side project (70's) first three albums of "Brand X."... you may already know. Peace on earth.
Just look at Steve’s changing appearance to see a man growing in confidence, so if he didn’t feel accepted, he certainly thrived under it.
We worn born together I’m was born in 70. I grew up to Phil all my life. I play the drums all my life. Like Phil.
I think at 1:05, Phil must have been speaking about me - I was one of those who would see Genesis, Siouxsie and the Banshees and other genres all within a few months of each other. And still listen to the same eclectic mix of music now.
Whata fantastic doco❤
Thanks for watching!
Saw them first time at Knebworth 74 … unreal and the second time in Washington DC 10 years later
Lucky you!
Genesis got better, the longer they were together.
Love PG then and now
Great documentation until... yes until the middle!
The early real Genesis (until Selling by the pound) were one of the biggest and best bands that ever lived!
The big break came with “Lamb lies down”! on "Trick of" there were a few brief moments, a brief flicker, before the band disappeared into the commercial smoke!
They still released some great pop songs, but the really great stuff of the early years, the "Soul" was simply lost!
"Trespass", "Nursery Crime", "Foxtrot" and "Selling England" are their contribution to progressive rock music, great Masterpieces, that will live on forever!!
Unfortunately, this documentation also becomes weaker from around the middle, the concept is lost and the new commentators lose themselves in (suitable) irrelevance. A pity...😢..
Wait... I agree the "Lamb lies down..." marked a turning point with the sound of the band but you can't throw in the same bag "A trick of the tail" (a very good album with too much "mushy" moments") with the "Lamb .." which is an outstanding work melting rock, prog and pop like never before 😉
Any band is only as good as its drummer, and with Phill Collins, Genesis passed that test with flying (true) colours 😂
The thumbnail picture n this I truly thought it was a. Ad for the adams family😱😃
Eccellente
Early stuff sounds so chaotic
Red rain coming down on me now
"In that Quiet Earth", always reminds me of the TV Series that was hosted by Leonard Nimoy ('Star Trek's character, "Spock") called; *_In Search Of_* ...
I'd love someone to quiz Pete or the others regards the lyrics on IKWYL.. especially the 'in your wardrobe' bit!! I mean he got into public cross dressing early with the Dublin gig but cmon Pete 42:13 looks fruity lol 😂
Didn’t realise apart from Phil Collins what Toffs they were!!
Nigel Tufnel from Spinal Tap is posher. He's a hereditary Peer.
Steve wasn't Public School educated either.
how did they get the original shepperton audio????
What a pity they didn’t speak about « Firth of fifth » and « The Cinema show »
The first off - centre bands I heard were The Mothers Of Invention , The Fugs , & Big Brother and The Holding Company .
Like Phil said (for the jest of it, not ver batim), “ It’ve been fine with me if Peter had stayed with Genesis and I’d’ve stayed on the drums… you know, just keep things the same”… but … we’ll never know. Genesis was a great band… and then, so was Yes, Todd Rundgren, The Beatles, Steely Dan, Jethro Tull, Chicago, Gentle Giant, Frank Zappa and The Mother’s of Invention, The Pretty Things, Kansas, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Pink Floyd, Pat Metheney, Jeff Beck, Cream, Journey, Blind Faith, Grand Funk Railroad, and of course… Peter Brian Gabriel.
Peter Gabriel era: "Supper's ready" - Phil Collins era: "Ripples". What else to add...
Anything on Ant Geese and the Ghost?
I haven't looked this fully through yet, so I'm not sure if the story of the guys refusing to go on stage at a venue in 1970 (Belgium, possibly), is told here. But I believe it was something to do with extremely shoddy wiring. Does anyone else know this story?
I think there was a point there they were in Scotland about to go on stage but the Hot voltage was going to the stage structure. See Gallo book were this story is mentioned.
@@lymangreen5020 Blimey! Lucky they knew there was a serious issue. Stone the Crows weren't so lucky 2 years later. The Waterboys had a similar issue in County Donegal in 2021, I think.
The pre-pop years.
Yep. Tragic what happened after W&W.
19 minutes into this documentary and not a single word about Gabriel's VOICE??! Really??
I quite agree..One of ‘em even pronounces Salmacis wrong ..obviously not massive fans like us? Lol
Why jump from Stagnation to Musical Box and missing out The Knife, which stayed in their live performances in the years to come. Whereas Stagnation didn't stay in the set list for very long
same for "Looking for someone"...another great track that would have deserved more covering...
The photo at 1:46:38 puzzles me. Phil's kit is on the left, Chester's on the right. Anybody have the story behind the unusual setup? (My guess is that this was taken during tour rehearsal for W&W)
Switched photo, look at Mike, he isn't left handed ;-)
Here you go Mike, have a series of whacks in the head with my tambourine!!! Lol !!!
Great but no discussion about Lamb lie down
70s Genesis is awesome. 80s Genesis, not so much. They had to resort to making pop crap to sell albums. Songs like ABACAB and Whoddunit are rubbish.
There's a scene in Alan Partridge when the young, hip hotel worker is testing AP's musical cred, asking what his favourite Beatles album is. Trying to be cool, he chooses their Greatest Hits album. 😂
Similarly, I'd probably go for Seconds Out as crystalising the older Genesis, before things started to change.
After that - for me - there was the odd track, the occasional moment, on albums like Duke, where they shone, but musically it was a time of decline. The cash rolled in, Phil became a pop star, and I just lost interest. He remains a drumming hero for me, and the drum duets with Bruford and Thompson were brilliant, but I guess I kind of felt let down by all the superficial, computerised, commercial dross that followed. As an old coffin-dodger, I want to be wowed by the skill and theatre of something like the Lamb, or Firth of Fifth and so on - I just can't get excited by the later stuff. Sad ending too, all that money, all that fame and success, and PC ends up shrunken and ravaged by illness, barely able to limp on stage, his limbs useless, his voice weak - kind of breaks my heart. But the great music of the past will always be there, never to be repeated.
It seems a shame that the contribution of Anthony Phillips to the band has largely been glossed over.
It was Steve Hackett who encouraged them to buy a mellotron. Hackett was more missed than PG. I hated Genesis when it became the Phil Collins Trio.
These narrator guys here don't seem to understand what we as teenagers went through 1971-73 with Genesis. Selling England by the Pound was the downfall of their original raw sounds and the reason why PG left as he could see the more commercial sound path they were now taking. SH left not long after for the same reason and these guys are totally wrong to say SEBTP was their best album. If they were there in 71-73 and saw these incredible concerts as I did, then they would recognise Foxtrot was their best album by far. But there again, each to their own....
You have to laugh at that guy with they keyboard who can't even play the Follow You Follow Me melody correctly.
"In the early days he was an organist", LOL, nope... he started on piano and developed his organ playing within the band.
👁El ojo
critics ruin it
Love phil but he is no peter! Like Sammy vs Diamond Dave!
he doesn't have to be peter. he's phil.
Putting Van Stalen in there is a like putting McDonalds in a cuisine discussion.
Aaaah we all have an opinion don't we 😜 including these nobodies...
main comment... thank you! great era and great band that can be covered endlessly. quibbles... skipping the lamb entirely? can't do that. and sorry but the dude with the korg just doesn't get any of this. all of his "demonstrations" are unmusical and/or miss the point. need Rick Beato and his minions on this. maybe I should....... nahhhh........ we'll see....
Totally concur with you !! I’d rather listen to true fans over these so called “experts”any day !!
After Gabriel and Hackett, they were dreadful. I really tried to listen to them but I couldn't get into the pop direction. Phil as a pop star got very boring for me.
Squonk
Wierd how dinkw thought this was pro pinko
Buuuu huuuu Collins drumming too busy at times........ Get over it!!
How many bands can you say got infinitely better when they got down to a three piece band. Probably just Genesis and Rush.
Genesis, Schemisis. You've been bamboozled . Who expects to be paid for stinking up the industry with "Soo Soo Soodio"?
I'll tell you, Phil Collins. Then there's that "hah hah" barking. Time to exit, stage rear, Mr. Collins.
He was - he was paid a LOT.
Show me on the doll where the Phil Collins hurt you.
@@MrLtia1234 He left a mark!
Oh no here we go again , genesis evolved bcuz of progression and band members leaving, accept it
Don’t tear down Genesis because of the lame Collins era. He’s a great drummer, the band is great. But after Gabriel left, they needed a new name.
@@ihatespam2 Problem with that is, they *returned* to their traditional style after Peter left. There's two more albums before anything starts to change and it isn't really a different band until Abacab in 1981.
Phil was an amazing drummer - quite a bit like Bill Bruford.
These critics are a joke.
Thank you. Must have been family and friends of the 2 man production team.