I'm surprised you didn't mention that Ferus, during his time as Obi-Wan's apprentice, spied on the empire. At one point he was even Darth Vader's personal assistant, not knowing he was Anakin, but with Vader being very keenly aware who he was, although not realizing he was a spy. Made for a very interesting dynamic honestly.
@@maadtee6281 He was a double-agent, blackmailed by Darth Sidious into spying for the empire whilst simultaneously working to undermine it from the inside. This was before his asteroid base was destroyed and he became Leia's protector.
I wouldn’t say Kenobi is a man of many mysteries, but he definitely has several layers to him which the average fan wouldn’t expect. Forbidden attachments, apprentices besides Anikan, and so much more… Can’t wait for the Kenobi series 👍
@@phillipmeyer4059 Cerasi says otherwise, though admitedly that was as much Kenobi digging his heels in over her cause being just and teething problems with his apprenticeship to Qui-Gon as anything else.
Ferus Olin is my all time favorite Jedi and his epic badassery deserves screen time in these Star Wars movies. Besides being a very powerful Force user, he was also a skilled practitioner of Form VII: Vaapad and Juyo lightsaber combat so it would've been really interesting to see another Light Sided Jedi besides Mace Windu fight with a borderline Dark Side combat style.
Yes! Glad to see the Apprentice, Quest, and Last of the Jedi series getting some love recently with the increased interest in Kenobi! Read those books so many times in my childhood.
I love that you featured Ferus in your video since he's my ultimate favorite Star Wars character. I feel like he's a largely underrated character who's done some really amazing feats with his powers that I don't usually see other Force users do and his affection for his husband along with his paternal love for Leia is so heartwarming. I hope Disney and Lucasfilm will be able to introduce him back to canon in the Star Wars cinematic universe someday. ❤
Obi-Wan novels were well written and in fact established that many of these side characters were mainstream in the novels of the legends timelines. I myself have enjoyed several of the books in the series, and many of the stories in the books were really good.
The fact that Obi-Wan "didn't notice" Anakin heading towards the dark-side after the 15 million "I'm definately the baddie" hints he dropped is enough of a reason to believe that Obi-Wan was Darth Jar-Jar's apprentice.
It’s weird, because the Jedi Quest books have so many moments of Obi-Wan questioning if he’s the right teacher for Anakin and agonizing about Anakin making the right choices, and then never talking to him about it except to argue with him and tell him what he did wrong. You get the feeling if they would have just sat down and had one conversation, the galaxy could have been saved.
@@jedihistorian8660 He was probably just scared and didn’t know how to voice his concerns properly without being super critical and condescending I know a lot of people in real life like that
I don't know if you left a lot out or if they have two versions. For Ferus the books I read he got captured by the empire. Sidious gave him a sith holcron knowing Ferus would fall to the dark side. He turned back good. But not before he scared the crap out of his allies.
All I know is that if he taught them hot to negotiate with and troll the sepis,he taught them well.Also can you do a vid on how thrawn found grees helmet and had it on the chimera in rebels.
And people say you can't fit two different contiunties together. Well, look how well they intergrated Halagad Ventor into two stories that seemingly contradicted each other. Retcons, sometimes there a force for good. :)
Just make sure they work quite well and not derail too much (looking at you, Dragon Age sequels and other works I won't name here). And, lo and behold as of recently, in one world, a magical school is starting to resist a tyrant, in another, it's bloody Sernpidal all over again... or maybe a Razgriz vs. the SOLG.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Yeah, those two episodes were insane and awesome. The K-Pop fight was just the kind of thing I love, music played in-universe in battle. And the stuff at the school, I wasn't expecting everyone to join in the fight, Amity, Willow, and Gus sure, Edric, Emira, and the flyer derby Team maybe, but the entire school, that was a surprise to be sure, but a welcomed one. Through, I am a little mad they didn't resolve the cliff hanger from the last episode. Still, these episodes were great. Also, with how many allies Luz and Eda are gaining, and how fast it's happen it kind of reminds me of the narration before the Battle of Kashyyyk in the old Battlefront 2 game during story mode. And since I am a massive Star Wars nerd, I just had to make a variation of that narration for The Owl House: Luz: "When we learned of Belos plan and tried to stop him, things were just bad as we imagined. Even with Amity, Willow, Gus, and our remaining main allies, Belos's army had us outgunned, outmaneuvered, and outmanned by a 5 to 1 majin. What none of us had counted on was the rest of Hexside joining us to help stop Belos. Still, it was a suicided mission even with the help. That is, it was until several of the Coven Heads and many people in the Emperors Coven joined us, like Warden Wrath said many in the Coven had doubts and joined us, then it became a battle. A winnable battle."
Never am much into Blackpink. With that in mind, the likes of "Lean on Me" from the show's Season 1 finale, Animation vs. Minecraft's "Pigstep" remix, and The Mitchells vs. the Machines' "Live Your Life" and other licensed songs are more in line on personal preferences. Nice narration there, but I would prefer a background character's eyewitness observations, not a main character's, for more spice, a newer angle, and how they did and felt during the time of crisis.
THIS IS MY SHIT love all your videos man but this one slappppped, it’s not often I find videos on lore I not only don’t remember, but have actually never heard of, thanks Geetsly!
yeah they're all good people, yknow, being moral and selfless, killing a few younglings on the side, not too many, that would be dastardly. no, just some all-around good people /s
one thing I think that would be interesting to cover is more situations like the later apprentice where things were the results of minor retcons or things which were changed in creative ways like the concordance of fealty being used to explain the original comic being made 'wrong' when other movies came out
The Jedi Quest series, where Ferus is from, has a lot of terrible decisions from the Council, where they decide to temporarily leave 13yo Anakin enslaved in the spice mines, don’t care about him being drugged by Sith Cultists, or send him to pursue Jenna Zan Arbor, the scientist who drugged and experimented on him. I honestly like the Council, but some of their choices were baffling. Would you consider making a video about their ten worst decisions (regarding Anakin)?
So, anyone in the comments actually read and been through Ferus Olin's adventures from his very first appearance to his supposed endgame later on? If so, congratulations, even if pain and unresolved issues were also received by marching on.
ATHA PRIME was released as a 3.75 figure back in the day (late 1990's). But during that time the character wasn't a singular identity, hold the same title/name. And was also introduced (design wise) in a classic star wars post rotj. Points to you if you recognize ATHA PRIMES physical design.
Ngl looking into Zeta Magnus would be cool, he despite his few appearances is definitely up there as an interesting villain along with Durge and Grevious. Plus it is a good chance to look at the arkanians who are very underrated.
How did obi wan have 2 other apprentice’s? He got Anakin when he became a night and we never seen a different apprentice? Was it after Anakin that we just never seen?? Weird
I wish Tales Of The Jedi focused on Anakin's, and Obi-Wan's Pre-AOTC time as Apprentice, and Master, respectively, instead of Ahsoka. It would've been a great way to re-canonize Ferus Olin, Siri Tachi, and possible Araa Thel-Tanis & Tru Veld.
Anakin was kind of an asshole, wasn't he? So many red flags throughout his life. Qui Gon, or perhaps Mace Windu, were maybe the only Jedi who may have been able to get through to him. I love Obi-Wan, but he simply wasn't the right person for the job, and that should have been noticed.
What this video left out was that Ferus and Anakin were both terrible to each other-including a time when Anakin had been captured and drugged and unknowingly used in a scientific experiment about the Force, and Ferus blamed Anakin for being conflicted about his captivity. It definitely wasn’t a case of Anakin being an ass and Ferus being an angel. Agreed that someone should have noticed Anakin’s problems and intervened, though.
Wasn't Halagad Ventor captured and tortured by inquisitors? Maybe you could do a video about jedi run-ins with the inquisitorious, I believe both Ventor and Ferus Olin had several encounters with them. (Legends, of course!)
Iirc, Halagad and the likes of Qu Rann established a network of surviving jedi, but Halagad eventually got captured, and after IMMENSE, UNENDING TORTURE by Vader and company he broke, and disclosed their locations. Only Qu Rann escaped, everyone else in the network was slaughtered. In a cruel act of mercy, Vader let Halagad live, and he went into exile. Eventually a ship crew that was (stranded? lost? I forget) showed encountered him, and presented him with his Republic Medal of Valor that he had always brought with him, but left in his ship when he went into exile. He helped the crew out, and was able to die in peace, and I think he might have become a force ghost. Details are hazy, so don't quote me on anything, but that's the gist of it.
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 no he's also an inquisitor, it's just his creator wanted his homosexuality to be a key trait and it wasn't mentioned, not to mention people want representation in media
So.. in all ACTUALITY.. Kenobi ISNT much of a teacher is he? In fact, Anakin was an ALMOST success unless you count him becoming a Knight an Council Member an then Anakin's Son Luke whom got it right where he failed. Sounds like MOST of Kenobi's trainees either would die or turn Evil at some point
I mean, he's got 3 of 4 on the light side! 😅. And honestly he even master Yoda himself trained one that went bad... And as to dying, well, being a Jedi through order 66 and beyond is hazardous.
I'm surprised you didn't mention that Ferus, during his time as Obi-Wan's apprentice, spied on the empire. At one point he was even Darth Vader's personal assistant, not knowing he was Anakin, but with Vader being very keenly aware who he was, although not realizing he was a spy. Made for a very interesting dynamic honestly.
Was he an inquisitor or just lied what he was
@@maadtee6281 He was a double-agent, blackmailed by Darth Sidious into spying for the empire whilst simultaneously working to undermine it from the inside. This was before his asteroid base was destroyed and he became Leia's protector.
I wouldn’t say Kenobi is a man of many mysteries, but he definitely has several layers to him which the average fan wouldn’t expect. Forbidden attachments, apprentices besides Anikan, and so much more…
Can’t wait for the Kenobi series 👍
Same cannot wait for the show!
I would not say his attachments were forbidden he kept them under control and kept the rules of the order.
@@phillipmeyer4059 Cerasi says otherwise, though admitedly that was as much Kenobi digging his heels in over her cause being just and teething problems with his apprenticeship to Qui-Gon as anything else.
well that didnt age well haha
@@garegos7184yeah :/
Ferus Olin is my all time favorite Jedi and his epic badassery deserves screen time in these Star Wars movies. Besides being a very powerful Force user, he was also a skilled practitioner of Form VII: Vaapad and Juyo lightsaber combat so it would've been really interesting to see another Light Sided Jedi besides Mace Windu fight with a borderline Dark Side combat style.
Yes! Glad to see the Apprentice, Quest, and Last of the Jedi series getting some love recently with the increased interest in Kenobi! Read those books so many times in my childhood.
Couldn't agree more!
I am proud to say I was well aware of both of these people. I love them both.
Definitely tell the people more about them. They worked so hard.
💯
I love that you featured Ferus in your video since he's my ultimate favorite Star Wars character. I feel like he's a largely underrated character who's done some really amazing feats with his powers that I don't usually see other Force users do and his affection for his husband along with his paternal love for Leia is so heartwarming. I hope Disney and Lucasfilm will be able to introduce him back to canon in the Star Wars cinematic universe someday. ❤
I loved those Last of the Jedi books when I was a kid.
Same dude the one where they snuck into the defunct Jedi temple with Trevor flume gave me goosebumps
I love the OG Battlefront transition!!
Ferus has always been my favorite Jedi
Yeah I like idea a Jedis can train more than one apprentice.
real and true
Darth Vader: My old... friend, Ferus Olin, you survived.
Ferus Olin: Heard you got a new armor, Vader. Or should I say... Anakin Skywalker!
Obi-Wan novels were well written and in fact established that many of these side characters were mainstream in the novels of the legends timelines. I myself have enjoyed several of the books in the series, and many of the stories in the books were really good.
I really hope they make Olin canon. Always thought he was a cool Jedi with a really neat storyline
Obi Wan is such a good character. The archetype Jedi who is perfect with everything except for his apprentices.
Facts😂
He does have a penchant of either adopting troublesome apprentices or apprentices who tend to invite trouble after all.
The fact that Obi-Wan "didn't notice" Anakin heading towards the dark-side after the 15 million "I'm definately the baddie" hints he dropped is enough of a reason to believe that Obi-Wan was Darth Jar-Jar's apprentice.
It’s weird, because the Jedi Quest books have so many moments of Obi-Wan questioning if he’s the right teacher for Anakin and agonizing about Anakin making the right choices, and then never talking to him about it except to argue with him and tell him what he did wrong. You get the feeling if they would have just sat down and had one conversation, the galaxy could have been saved.
@@jedihistorian8660 He was probably just scared and didn’t know how to voice his concerns properly without being super critical and condescending I know a lot of people in real life like that
Gotta love the unknown characters
Yes, they are awesome!
@@geetslys they are rlly great
Ferus Olin was my favorite Jedi in middle school
Is it true he protected a young Princess Leia as a bodyguard?
@@jaieregilmore971 Yes it is covered in the last of the Jedi series and rebel forces series.
@@JediAcolyte94 Last of the Jedi was the first EU series I read!
@@JediAcolyte94 love legends stories give more lore on the Jedi.
Finally someone brings them up again. Its been so long since I've seen anyone else remember these two.
I don't know if you left a lot out or if they have two versions. For Ferus the books I read he got captured by the empire. Sidious gave him a sith holcron knowing Ferus would fall to the dark side. He turned back good. But not before he scared the crap out of his allies.
I really appreciate good retcon efforts like that. Too many writers are lazy and care about their story over the franchise as a whole.
Disney writing ✍️ is lazy af
All I know is that if he taught them hot to negotiate with and troll the sepis,he taught them well.Also can you do a vid on how thrawn found grees helmet and had it on the chimera in rebels.
Whattt no way
Obi Wan and Tachi never picked up on Anakin's jealousy? A red stripe of passionate jealousy and 2 masters did not pu on it.
And people say you can't fit two different contiunties together. Well, look how well they intergrated Halagad Ventor into two stories that seemingly contradicted each other. Retcons, sometimes there a force for good. :)
Just make sure they work quite well and not derail too much (looking at you, Dragon Age sequels and other works I won't name here).
And, lo and behold as of recently, in one world, a magical school is starting to resist a tyrant, in another, it's bloody Sernpidal all over again... or maybe a Razgriz vs. the SOLG.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Yeah, those two episodes were insane and awesome.
The K-Pop fight was just the kind of thing I love, music played in-universe in battle.
And the stuff at the school, I wasn't expecting everyone to join in the fight, Amity, Willow, and Gus sure, Edric, Emira, and the flyer derby Team maybe, but the entire school, that was a surprise to be sure, but a welcomed one. Through, I am a little mad they didn't resolve the cliff hanger from the last episode. Still, these episodes were great.
Also, with how many allies Luz and Eda are gaining, and how fast it's happen it kind of reminds me of the narration before the Battle of Kashyyyk in the old Battlefront 2 game during story mode. And since I am a massive Star Wars nerd, I just had to make a variation of that narration for The Owl House:
Luz: "When we learned of Belos plan and tried to stop him, things were just bad as we imagined. Even with Amity, Willow, Gus, and our remaining main allies, Belos's army had us outgunned, outmaneuvered, and outmanned by a 5 to 1 majin. What none of us had counted on was the rest of Hexside joining us to help stop Belos. Still, it was a suicided mission even with the help. That is, it was until several of the Coven Heads and many people in the Emperors Coven joined us, like Warden Wrath said many in the Coven had doubts and joined us, then it became a battle. A winnable battle."
SOMETIMES you can manage it other times it just can't work .
Never am much into Blackpink. With that in mind, the likes of "Lean on Me" from the show's Season 1 finale, Animation vs. Minecraft's "Pigstep" remix, and The Mitchells vs. the Machines' "Live Your Life" and other licensed songs are more in line on personal preferences.
Nice narration there, but I would prefer a background character's eyewitness observations, not a main character's, for more spice, a newer angle, and how they did and felt during the time of crisis.
DIEGhostfish And besides, even those "sometimes" moments can do a whole lot of good even if trivial.
I’m glad Obi wan is able to train more than one apprentice to show the Jedi apprentice can work together.
Feels nice to be 5 Minutes earlier to a video…feels like I’ve just won the world
THIS IS MY SHIT love all your videos man but this one slappppped, it’s not often I find videos on lore I not only don’t remember, but have actually never heard of, thanks Geetsly!
I love weird patch together retcons they're favorite thought exercise of mine.
I’m sure they aren’t bad people… all of obi wan’s apprentices turn out to be good guys
After being evil
yeah they're all good people, yknow, being moral and selfless, killing a few younglings on the side, not too many, that would be dastardly. no, just some all-around good people
/s
could you make a video specifically on Ferus Olin ? He's one of my favorite legends characters
Yes please
the old EU had way more lore depth stakes and soul than Disney canon
How to avoid the Empire: find remote jungle/swamp planet. Sit and wait. K’Kruhk and Yoda had the right idea
0:05 Shame that Anakin was never promoted to Jedi Master
one thing I think that would be interesting to cover is more situations like the later apprentice where things were the results of minor retcons or things which were changed in creative ways like the concordance of fealty being used to explain the original comic being made 'wrong' when other movies came out
Continuity is fun .cheers. ( pay attention Lucasfilm)
The Jedi Quest series, where Ferus is from, has a lot of terrible decisions from the Council, where they decide to temporarily leave 13yo Anakin enslaved in the spice mines, don’t care about him being drugged by Sith Cultists, or send him to pursue Jenna Zan Arbor, the scientist who drugged and experimented on him. I honestly like the Council, but some of their choices were baffling. Would you consider making a video about their ten worst decisions (regarding Anakin)?
It's a good thing Ahsoka wasn't made Obi-Wan's apprentice, since she would have likely been gunned down by the 212th when Order 66 was issued.
Yeah, she got lucky!
That's if Cody wasn't made better by Ashoka
@@maadtee6281 Well, given how much of a by the books guy Cody was, that is unlikely.
@@geetslys Extremely lucky
@@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 pretty sure rex was also by the books until spending more time away from Cody. Ashoka can help with changing Cody a lot
I got an Expedia advertisement narrated by Ewan McGregor while waiting to see this video. I think it’s trying to tell me to visit Tatooine.
Anyone remember Star Wars the grocery store wars I just remembered it now. It’s the death melon. So corny but funny
I wonder if Kenobi trained them to be masters at getting caught
Anakin: “I thought I was your only apprentice. That makes Ferus and Halagad my rivals.”
Kenobi: “What?”
Anakin: “What?”
😂
Probably Yoda: "What about what?"
Ferus...🥺
Glad you covered this , I remember reading the Ferris Olin book as a kid
Ferus is one of my favorite star wars people
So, anyone in the comments actually read and been through Ferus Olin's adventures from his very first appearance to his supposed endgame later on? If so, congratulations, even if pain and unresolved issues were also received by marching on.
Maybe... Definitely read a solid chunk, can't remember if the local library pile stretched all the way to the end.
Fun fact obi wan is a tragic hero who still remained in the light dude lost Satine and he still wasn't consumed by the darkside
Agreed
Ahh yes a new hologram full of new knowledge
I would pay to see this turn into a spin-off series of clone wars
Duuude that would be amazing
ATHA PRIME was released as a 3.75 figure back in the day (late 1990's). But during that time the character wasn't a singular identity, hold the same title/name. And was also introduced (design wise) in a classic star wars post rotj. Points to you if you recognize ATHA PRIMES physical design.
*sees description quotes* I didn't mind them much. Same for the original cover for the second Darth Bane novel.
The Senate always learns from every apprentice.
I think I read about the EU novels where Ferus appeared, but I didn't know about Halagad,
Hmmm, siri tachi, that name is familiar. I remember her from star wars: jedi starfighter working with Adi Gallia up to the first battle of geonosis.
That mission to Korriban got me extremely curious. Like, what could they possibly be going there for during that time.
They were going after a man named Granta Omega.
i hope they put Ferus in Kenobi seaosn 2
Anakin the brat stikes again😂
Ngl looking into Zeta Magnus would be cool, he despite his few appearances is definitely up there as an interesting villain along with Durge and Grevious. Plus it is a good chance to look at the arkanians who are very underrated.
6:28 wow this is really interesting. Never knew about this but glad I do now! Does anyone have some other examples of 2 jedi doing this?
I never considered Olin to be Kenobi's apprentice. I never heard of the other one before.
Disney could put all these old comics through animation with the benefit of hindsight the writers didn't have the first time round
SIGH
That would be so nice
Great vid!!!
This would've been a nice tie in for the Kenobi series.
Detroit: Become Human was a very good game tho
How did obi wan have 2 other apprentice’s? He got Anakin when he became a night and we never seen a different apprentice? Was it after Anakin that we just never seen?? Weird
Between movies in the books and all that. A lot happened between the movies
Imagine of Olin had trained Leia to use the force
She’d be so powerful
But I don’t think she hit force puberty until way later in her life
I wish Tales Of The Jedi focused on Anakin's, and Obi-Wan's Pre-AOTC time as Apprentice, and Master, respectively, instead of Ahsoka. It would've been a great way to re-canonize Ferus Olin, Siri Tachi, and possible Araa Thel-Tanis & Tru Veld.
Anakin was kind of an asshole, wasn't he? So many red flags throughout his life. Qui Gon, or perhaps Mace Windu, were maybe the only Jedi who may have been able to get through to him. I love Obi-Wan, but he simply wasn't the right person for the job, and that should have been noticed.
What this video left out was that Ferus and Anakin were both terrible to each other-including a time when Anakin had been captured and drugged and unknowingly used in a scientific experiment about the Force, and Ferus blamed Anakin for being conflicted about his captivity. It definitely wasn’t a case of Anakin being an ass and Ferus being an angel. Agreed that someone should have noticed Anakin’s problems and intervened, though.
Obi wan was just too young. I mean he was literally a padawan when he took him on
Wasn't Halagad Ventor captured and tortured by inquisitors? Maybe you could do a video about jedi run-ins with the inquisitorious, I believe both Ventor and Ferus Olin had several encounters with them. (Legends, of course!)
Iirc, Halagad and the likes of Qu Rann established a network of surviving jedi, but Halagad eventually got captured, and after IMMENSE, UNENDING TORTURE by Vader and company he broke, and disclosed their locations. Only Qu Rann escaped, everyone else in the network was slaughtered. In a cruel act of mercy, Vader let Halagad live, and he went into exile. Eventually a ship crew that was (stranded? lost? I forget) showed encountered him, and presented him with his Republic Medal of Valor that he had always brought with him, but left in his ship when he went into exile.
He helped the crew out, and was able to die in peace, and I think he might have become a force ghost.
Details are hazy, so don't quote me on anything, but that's the gist of it.
@@ExcellsionI love Star Wars. I love how deep all the lord goes
Neat!.. 'Neetsly'?
I HAVE THAT ISSUE!!!!!
Olin is a badass, and one of the few gay star wars characters
Yeah he is a cool character.
you only care about the sexuality?
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 no he's also an inquisitor, it's just his creator wanted his homosexuality to be a key trait and it wasn't mentioned, not to mention people want representation in media
Hm, how very interesting.
Touchy🤣🧟♀️
I would love to read these stories what novels or comics are they in
Last of the Jedi. and Jedi apprentice books
I misread the name of the video as “obi-wan’s appearances”
hello there
So.. in all ACTUALITY.. Kenobi ISNT much of a teacher is he? In fact, Anakin was an ALMOST success unless you count him becoming a Knight an Council Member an then Anakin's Son Luke whom got it right where he failed. Sounds like MOST of Kenobi's trainees either would die or turn Evil at some point
I mean, he's got 3 of 4 on the light side! 😅. And honestly he even master Yoda himself trained one that went bad... And as to dying, well, being a Jedi through order 66 and beyond is hazardous.
@@advena996 notably the beyond part.
Why does one of the apprentices look like Robert Pattinson? From a certain angle.
Its messed up how Anakin killed another apprentice.
Wasn't it an accident with a lightsaber he helped build?
Is any of this cannon?…
Nope Disney dumped it all when they bought SW