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Flats getting excited about the girl naming the ultimates is always so wholesome
Tbh, those videos are always adorable lol
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First guy being a Zen player is so funny. Flats calling Zen players the "CoD Bros of Overwatch" came to mind when he took his shirt off for no reason, and when he included the clip of him bagging some random guy for no reason.
This dude literally said bro in his vids too lmao, it all checks out
Fr ohdough has the weirdest support takes
@@toastiboi7618 back when he played Apex he had some decent takes, he just doesn't understand anything overwatch and it's sad to see him try giving advice on something he doesn't understand
He’s playing the support with the worst healing and complaining about other people not healing
@@notaperson1557 he was already weird in the apex community, dude is a living drama bait
“I play the hard supports!”
“Sometimes I play Moira.”
“Supports are dpsing too much when they should be healing”
“I’m a gm zenyatta main”
Love how the guy who's apparently gm on support plays zen and moira and says supports should learn to stop dpsing and heal. I am so proud of this community.
i mean he then says he mains zen...who is ONLY about fragging lol
He must be salty that the other support focusing on healing the dps and tank and not his dps Zen ass
Except he never said that, but alright, wathever makes you happy.
@@AndreyGP he did?
@@toastiboi7618 He only said you should know when to heal and when to deal damage, which is obvious but that's what he said.
This guy: My playstyle hasn't changed.
This guy 0.68 seconds later describing his change in playstyle: I've become more aggressive
Genji runs into whole team by himself and spams I need healing when on full health, slowly goes critical, runs back to me, as i go to heal him he runs back into their team and dies then starts screaming that the "healers" didnt heal. Overwatch
"buy himself"
Bro's got the strategy
Why is he buying himself did someone else own him?
Not our job to keep you alive, that's yours, we just help the process
@@austinwinters8976 1v5ing a team by yourself isn't helping the process; 1v2 at most if it's their backline supports.
Us Zen mains do not claim that first guy, lmao. 🗿
I’m with you brother. This guys a clown
Indeed, he is incredibly silly
he should akept doing dauntless or not making takes
i dont think any of us support players claim him lmao
What people seem to forget is Stylosa specifically says he is talking about lower ranks in almost every video he does
I don't think people have their ears clean to listen to his explanations just one word he mentions then people goes Karen mode
Ain't no way he went after stylosa like that
The stylosa video was hot shit though. "Punish the enemy for diving the supports," "Give them 800 hp" and the dude says support is low impact while only playing MORIA AND MERCY. That video was the first and worst bad take I have ever seen from the man. He should have said the reasons, but the backlash was justified
@natereynolds2783 true. I was confused he was only focusing on mercy and Moira. They're not even that meta.
@@natereynolds2783 Alright well he could have worded it better, the dude in this video just is so mean spirited and deconstructive
@@xXEGPXx Yeah. He should have. Honestly if he provided the original audio, everyone would have reacted better. IDK why he didn't do that, but even still, being that mean was unnecessary
@@xXEGPXx that's ohdough now, he's never been the same after what happened with Dauntless
Just stayin alive as supp is a challenge lol
Before I'd say no, just need to learn positioning. However, the current meta being like "dead by daylight" for support players, it's more of a challenge now. I actually like playing Ana so I don't mind it, but I swear to God almost every match I'm playing against a roadhog that just hunts me down no matter what support im on, and my teammates aren't going to do much to help me so I just have to play either ana to sleep him and nade, or play moira to escape. I hate hog
Edit: UPDATE, today I played Ana in competitive against a Hog, and I kept using my cooldowns on the hog to shut him down (we had a wrecking ball) the Hog player told me he "hopes I die in a fatal car crash" verbatim. A little redundant but anyway
When I play support I just hunt the enemy. Nobody expects the supports to not run for their lives - and supports low key have some of the best duelling kits in the game with both cc, sustain, and offensive utility (some more than others ofc). Honestly as a dps main who flexes both tank and support, it really doesn't come off as difficult to turn the tables on anyone who thinks they can bully supports for free without them standing their ground.
Honestly. It gets harder the higher you go since DPS will actually hit their shots on you and enemy teams know you gotta focus the support.
This is way i play evasive supports rn. You are literally fodder for Doom and hog as brig, and zen and to a lesser extent bap and ana,. Not saying to play those heroes it’s not possible because it is and lets be honest some people are just better at those heroes than me but id rather chose longevity to get the most out to support my team.
@@masift1494 yeah, I'm also an ana main. Ya get heavy targetted and ya get 1 shot all the time man it's sad times.
That first one rustled my Jimmie’s, like bruh the entire meta is “murder the supports give them no quarter, cut them down!” And in lower ranks it’s even worse because the teams aren’t good enough (yet) to consistently go keep them alive, I’d argue support is one of if not the hardest role(s)
4:23
Stylosa specifically says in that video he shows the thumbnail of, that his commentary is directed to players who are masters or bellow. His takes on supports being hard aren't accurate at the higher ranks because they aren't meant to, he is talking to a specific audience and their experience in the game.
I feel like there is a strong disconnect between higher ranking players and lower ranking players where both over exaturate and make stereotypes of each other, when its way more complicated than people think (I get why that happens though, tik tok is a hell of a place).
stereotypes are all we know we're incapable of nuance /j
oh dough content has always seemed very targeted to me tbh, so i expected him to call out a vid on supports to claim is objectively wrong when it probably doesn’t even work in his argument
This dude may be good at the game, but he is an absolute moron. Flats isn't the divine speaker of balance, for all levels of skill, for all roles and heroes, now and in the future, since 2016 til the day Overwatch dies. He even thinks "don't take his word as gospel" is a scornful insult because he himself felt threatened by a tiktok guy telling casual players to not apply OWL's stale meta to every single game they play. Meta isn't concrete, it relies more on perception than the actual game. During actual cash-prize tournaments, you would have to be absurdly bold not to play meta. But for fun? At home, with the only stakes being your rank? Stylosa SHOULD give advice for hero synergies, or gameplay tips, but instead he assumes entire 5v5 compositions with perfect comms and knowledge of the game when he discusses balance. Oh, and equal skill level too, which doesn't happen anywhere. Either OWL allows certain characters to be non-viable for tournaments, doing what they can with the game, OR they demand all heroes be equally viable for them, because they have influence and fuck the millions who play for fun. You can't balance both, you literally can't. Seeing weird shakeups or non-meta stuff in tournaments is precisely what makes watching them fun and exciting. OWL is a bore, they refuse to defy meta. They play like robots, act like robots, then come home and clickbait on YT and TTV for more cash.
Fun fact when Reinhardt ults if u stand right Infront of it you will take less damage then standing farther away
Also remember to drop shields because if you hold shield during a shatter you take increased damage
You'll also heal for full if you jump infront of it at 1hp
You also gain ult charge if you shoot at the shield instead of the target
“Don’t take everything as gospel” Immediately after this masterpiece he says a certain TH-camr is untrustworthy and to trust him
Well, he is not to be trusted so...
His initial statement in that last one isn't fully wrong... Most of the tanks, especially Roadhog, were balanced around there being two tanks in a 6v6 environment. Getting a one-shot pick with Hog was much less impactful in 6v6 than it is now. Ball is in much the same position as he is meant to roam around all over the place while the other tank held the line with the rest of the team, doing that now just leaves all your squishies undefended unless they are also diving with you.
Hog and Ball operate in the same sphere of influence now, create space, get a pick instantly and roll the fight with it. Your team has to be able to play around the times you can't get a pick, the times where you're not being a "tank" (ball roaming around in the back or hog not peeking for his heals when cooldowns are off etc) they're essentially just a 3rd dps roll than a tank
@@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong problem is ball is too underpowered, he struggles to get picks plus can't displace enough to disrupt the enemy team that much
@@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong The problem is that to get a pick with ball you have to swing in, boop, piledrive, pop adaptive shield usually, burst down with the primary, roll out all without getting stunned at all. Hog, you aim the hook and shoot and melee to finish. Ball definitely needs some tweaks to make him better, although I might be biased as a ball enjoyer.
Guys I mean no offence, but Ball is pretty balanced, he creates alot of space and can get picks rather easy, if you have good target priority, if you are struggling with easy picks then your not diving the right target. Also using all your CD as ball is just wrong, your positioning is bad or your being to aggressive, there's a time to dive and a time to tank.
As a support player I've never bitched about it being too hard. that's not the point anymore its that support constantly is getting shafted and for most just isn't fun anymore. to the point I haven't played support since the first day of season 2
> All supports got self-healing in OW2!
Mercy: 😮💨
I think, when it comes to the org names, OWL shouldn't bind themselves to a city or state. Especially since some of those teams ARE owned by the aforementioned prestigious orgs, like NRG and what not. If you like an org and want to support them across different esport titles, it does become difficult when it comes to OWL, because they're the outlier. They're associated with states / cities as opposed to actual org.
I actually like that part of OWL. I'm sure there are differences between Esports orgs and reasons that people like some of them over others, but they all seem the exact same to me. With the city/state thing, I actually have a reason to root for one team over anything else
I agree, in Apex I can recognize teams like NRG, TSM, Team Liquid etc... For a couple years after the beggining of OWL I didn't know NRG owned SF shock. If they just had normal org names then smaller orgs could play and also bigger orgs would be recognized
@@elitilton7015 Sure its kinda neat but it makes it a much harder sell for existing esports orgs to jump into the ring when part of that process is forfeiting brand loyalty, OWL is shooting itself in the foot as far as expansion is concerned
It's hilarious that there are teams that "represent" American cities in the name but whose rosters consists 100% of players from another continent who don't speak English. But anyway, the fact that the professional esports side of OW is gatekept strictly by Blizzard's League is silly and limiting.
I mean, it gives you a reason to root for one team as opposed to another if you're from a certain state/city. Personally I wanted to be a Glads or Valiant fan because I am from LA but I was more drawn to the LH players than the ones on the glads or the valiant, so I became a Seoul fan. However someone without that background knowledge would just pick a team based on their city or some occasions their play/success.
Supports are underrated in one way: They dictate the meta WAY more than people think.
All the meta talk is usually focused on the tanks and dps, but what is played or not depends on the support meta most of the time.
Oh definitely! Indeed! If you were around from the beginning, Ana was insane with nano in like season 2 or 3 of comp and the beayblade and rein nano was born! 😆 then brig came out and changed all kinds of stuff too! It was like a super brawl meta then! 😅
@@optiTHOMAS Exactly.
And lets not forget sniper metas (mercy boost/ Zen discord), the Moth meta, and big bad Goats (3 tanks/ 3 supports with ALL the aoe healing).
Baps immortality field and window both had team comps that were centered around those abilities as well... and Lucio/ Kiriko provide crucial speed boosts that enable multiple meta comps as well.
Heck, even Moira was meta defining at times, it was rare but happened nonetheless.
@@peterpan4038 yeah, well said! I remember people really getting sick of goats! 😅 crazy times, man!
Supports problem isn’t that it’s easy or hard, self reliant or team dependent, the problem is that support is not…fun. There’s thrill in it sometimes sure but the reason so many people go DPS Moira is out of spite, because playing support makes you become everyone’s bitch. The enemy team targets you as it’s tactically to their benefit, and unfortunately in a lot of cases, your own team verbally abuse or report you because you physically cannot heal everyone at all times, not without potentially sacrificing your own life and feeding, making a lot of support to game play “walking back from spawn” simulator if the enemy team is popping off. It’s just stress and a feeling of helplessness that inevitably sets in whenever you step into the role long enough, and instead of it being addressed, hell even mentioned, Blizzard hands is more bullets in a clip or a second off a cool down meanwhile buffing all the characters that can either indirectly or directly instant kill a support player before they can even realize what’s happening
Exactly. I wish more supports were built around more active game play, where the supports get to shoot enemies to get value. Like instead of heal botting you have to deal damage to heal team mates.
@@tatuvarvemaa5314 brig?
@@tatuvarvemaa5314 literally Brigitte
@@alexknight81 Obviously with high mechanical skill demand. Just because its on a stupid character doesent mean it cant work on a well designed character.
@@tatuvarvemaa5314 oh I don't disagree, I'm just saying that a character like you describe does exist already, not judging wether she is good or not
Skip to 6:18 if you want to skip the first tiktok
Calling support the easiest roll in the game is a cringe take. I have been maining bap recently and there is so much more that I'm having to keep track of than when I was damage.
It is HANDS down the easiest role. I'm BRAND NEW and I've hit Diamond on Support and can't break silver on DPS. Same on tank. I've had NO problems climbing support. Every 7 wins I jump 2 ranks without question. If a BRAND new player can climb on support then that proves enough tbh. I've never touched OW before until this one and I've never had an easier time climbing on support. There is NOTHING to keep track of at all. Teammate low? Heal. Not low? Dps. Brain dead. The few abilities you have that will impact the game is LITERALLY remembering to just press the button. Half the time doesn't even matter what direction. I main Kiriko/Ana/Bap. Absolutely brain dead.
Support is clearly the easiest lore, by as much as in ow1? No, but still the easiest. Remember that easiest doesn’t mean “so much easier”
Support is so easy, just play moira, you literally don't die AND you get top damage/healing.
People say support is the easiest while not having to worry about the entire team targeting you
@@cagxplays9602 the opinion of anyone on moira's dick can be immediately discarded as trash. I bet you get confused when you still lose despite having bigger numbers.
Support and DPS require different skills that make their roles uniquely difficult. DPS requires strong mechanical skill while Support is all about cooldown and team health management. I'd personally say Support is the most difficult class since there's a lot more management and while their abilities and ults swing matches, they really require their teammates to utilize the abilities. Brigitte's ult is solid at swinging matches, but if it's just her alone, 100 overhealth with 35 dps ain't swinging anything
Nah dps harder
@@merkkkalmost sojourn has entered the chat
@GIGACHAD you're right they do, and that's what separates the high and low level supports, but I'd say a lot of support players can get away without good mechanical skills since most of their kits don't require great aim, Ana excluded, whereas if the DPS can't land their shots, then they're automatically a bad DPS since that's their job
@@shundoraud3908 mechanical skill in my opinion is a thousand times easier than splitting focus and resource management. With dps all you have to do is hit your shots and not put yourself into bad positions. With support you have to do all this, with less movement options, less damage, less duelling potential and also worry about being targeted and keeping consistent heals while also not being a heal bot.
Genuinely playing dps well with characters like Ashe, mei, genji, reaper or junk rat is leagues easier than playing a good Baptist, Ana, zenyatta, or brigitte.
So while there are characters that are certainly harder or easier to play on both roles to me at least the good supports are simply harder to play then the good dps’s.
Of course as a support you can play brainless characters like mercy or Moira and still have a huge impact, but when it comes down to it, if it comes down to which roles are easier to do well with, even if supports have a greater relative impact it’s still harder to master in my opinion.
I genuinely don’t understand how anyone who’s decent at the game can think that playing Ashe or genji or reaper is easier than playing Baptist or Ana.
@@merkkkalmostDps has a lot of lazy picks/easy picks to use, as long as you understand what your hero can do your good to go. Just go Soldier and play call of duty like dps is braindead easy, tank and support is infinitely harder. If you call dps hard ong your just getting diffed, go play moira with your feet and you'll play better
Honestly DPS feels the easiest to me, as a support main that flex queues.
I don't personally dislike OhDough but I think his support takes are pretty rich coming from someone who mains a character whose entire gameplan revolves around being a dps with a heal button. Noone expects clutch heals from a Zen because outside of his ult, he is stuck with 30 health per second on a single target. Everything else is basically being a murder hobo and pressing Q at the same time when the enemy team presses Q.
Not saying Zen doesn't take skill to play, because on a mechanical level, he absolutely does, but in terms of decision making, Zenyatta is one of the easiest characters in the entire game.
What's your rank?
I personally dislike him he just seems like a dick
@@ceriani1234 hoes mad
He could be bronze 5 and this would still be true bro every other supp has skill shots/ and or a utility to the team. Zens utility is murder and denying dps ults discord is a great debuff but it doesn’t take any skill to apply it to someone
@@Z_tarkov That's rich, that's incredibly rich, you say that as if it takes any skill to use Cadeus Staff and buff a Soujourn to help invalidate the entire roster except Bastion and the tanks. Oh what's that? You actually have to manage your orbs as a Zenyatta? Instead of pressing LMB or RMB to just sit there and buff someone as a point and click adventure?
Gee golly, it's almost like every support just has a button they can press that only takes a modicum of brain power to effectively use. I'm sorry, but all supports are generally on the same level of skill, some just require more mechanical skill while others need more strategic skill. The only downside of support is you're public enemy #1, and even then; over half the supports have a get out of jail free card.
That first guy is so weird... he's simultaneously saying that support is the easiest to play role while at the same time having the most impact on the game?
"Support is the easiest role"
Lol ok Roadhogs 👍 👌
Easiest to do your job hardest to carry games
I don't think he understod what the last guy meant, he didn't say Roadhog was bad or needed to buffed. He said that roadhog as a character doesn't make sense in a 5v5 enviroment and I agree. I dont think a tank should have such an easy kill from range without counterplay. Hes annoying to play against and I belive he should be reworked.
Honestly it was fated to be since ow decided to be 5v5 format. Characters designed for 6v6 don't work for 5v5 wow look at that. To be honest i think paladins does it better for 5v5 format. Tanks are not so strong so when you are picking only off tank your chance of winning will be low but here is the catch you can sacrifice one support/DPS role for main tank and it's actually balanced(kinda at least its still hi rez).
Ps. I know what i said is just open que but c'mon.
But another hog, sleep dart, anti heal, any sort of stun or boop is a fucking counter to him. Stfu 🤣
@@FransizSefKurbaga paladins was so much fun, all of the roles actually felt good to play. Best part about it was the card system so you could literally change the playstyle of any character. I wish overwatch would take some more inspiration from paladins. If paladins had developers that actually cared, it would have been the significantly greater game.
@@cagxplays9602 it felt like a childrens version of overwatch and looked like it in the pro scene too. the mechanics and game sense needed are 10x lower than overwatch which makes it much more casual, and therefore more enjoyable no matter what you play
I bet that zen is having fun now that dive fist and tracer are giga strong😅
I tell people that call me out for "not healing enough" that if they'd kill people I could have the room to heal and not have to DPS the whole time. Hard to heal when you're dead.
Had a DPS on my team say support diff when we lost. The first round of the game he had zero kills…
“Your dpsing to much” my brother in Christ I’m trying to live
I had a guy tell me that I needed to heal more as moira, as we won, I got potg, had top elims, top damage, and top healing. Like yes ill just carry even harder next time?
Exactly how I feel when my team told me to heal more and said that the enemy hog had more healing then me, was probably one of the dumbest things I've heard anyone say considering how broken hog is because of his healing. Also not to mention our Echo kept dying to a Widow Maker up close, not even getting snipped by her, so I had to always go and kill her to protect me and our Mercy
"support stop killing people and heal more"
"cant heal what's dead, mor*n"
Can't wait to see conga comps in T500 this season!
The 5 frames with the shirt off actually killed me.
The reason Support is really hard in my eyes is that you have to be super aware. Tank has this as well. I am a dps main and I can kinda just do my own thing and run back for heals when needed but when you play support you have to know when to heal who and where to be and be aware of almost everything happening. Thats why its harder imo
tbf there's not much you need to be aware of, but you'll learn to listen to footsteps much more and you'll have to prioritize healing a lot of the time, some people aren't worth healing I'm sorry, if it comes down to it I'd rather save my other support than a dps
but yeah it's not easy but it's not taht bad
Its funny to me how bastions ult went from terrifying in ow1 (at least for me) to a "Oh their bastion is sitting still time to dive him"
in overwatch, i live by the motto
"It sits still it gets killed"
I feel that I can't agree with what seems to be some common complaints about supports. More heroes are definitely needed yes but when it's said that the only hero with the most impact is Kiriko, I'm like huh? There are ults that can change the team fight for sure along with the many abilities that have gotten added as well. There is a reason why Ana/Hog are close friends when in the same lobby.
Nice to see the daughter naming ults back again. Too cute 🥰
I'm concerned because some people are gonna believe those Doom 'tips' as fact but nice mind games 😆
Hell lucio is very arguably stronger than kiriko. Very few people know how he plays tho.
@@alexlink4623 Speed is a valuable ability for sure, especially with the right comp.
I imagine Quake is hoping people believe the Doom tips too.
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 Those poor souls.
@@alexlink4623 they also don't know who to bunny hop with him, it's hard I'm still learning.
Support players are the equivalent to breathing. It is simultaneously the easiest part of living and the most important.
Last OW meta for a lot of PUGs and tournaments was 6man. Double shield was still a dominant comp meta, but 6man (Winston, Dva, Sombra, Reaper, Lucio, Moira); was very good too. It was played as a hybrid rush/dive comp. Was fun to play in PUGs and comp until the Great Corporate Patch.
On the first guy. I'd agree support isn't the hardest but I also wouldn't call it easy. If you're on a lack luster team you have the lowest carry potential by far imo. Most healing abilities can't out heal poor positioning.
These are the best, Flats! Please keep them coming!!
It’s my favorite things when people notice something happening, like people playing or not playing a certain hero, and concluding something ENTIRELY wrong as to why, and using it as an argument for their agenda.🤣🤣
When I played endgame Elder Scrolls Online, supports were BOTH tanks and healers. In a 12 man group there were 8 dps and supports handled the buffs while dps did the task of killing the raid bosses. Healers were still called healers because they're the support that does more healing, but healing sets and abilities were assigned to tanks and to dps, and the primary job of all supports was buff uptime because healing itself was a fairly straightforward task, and holding aggro a little less so but similar. It's definitely not weird to call supports healers but in ESO the saying was "don't stand in stupid" which is essentially saying good DPS should take less damage. If you had to drop some healing for buff uptime it was usually worth the trade because the faster the boss was dead the less opportunity for something to go wrong.
In classic wow, resto shaman is a ‘healer’ that has an assload of utility. I get why ppl push the term ‘support’ but not everyone who says ‘healer’ means ‘healbot’ so ppl shouldn’t assume the worst if someone says ‘healer’
Healers in eso are mainly just stat boosters with buffs and debuffs. ESO does a good job with classes having self sustain. Overwatch is just straight healing and like about half the supports actually have utility💀
The guy in the beginning claiming that support is the easiest role while also saying he got put into plat rank when he’s a GM player is hilarious to me. Of course you’re going to think it’s easy, if you go up against people who aren’t your rank it’s gonna be a breeze for you.
First guy's takes where all over the place playing support it's not easy I think the main problem with support that a lot players still fail to understand is that healing requires line of sight and he was complaining about being dove on like its 2017 and two of the 3 supports he mentions have worst mobility in Zen and Ana should much wrong with the takes and calling out Stylosa was stange could go on and on tbh......
The mental damage of being consistently picked as a Zen probably damaged his soul
i’m just tired of people telling me to heal bot on moira 😭 tiktok so bad for the game haha
No joke I had some kid in my game yesterday who had more damage as moira than he had healing, and our mercy was practically solo healing bc of it, and I asked him if he could help heal more and he said "it's called support not healer" and I said cool kid I watch Flats too, learn how to fucking balance heals and damage. He didn't say anything after that. He kept fading into the enemy backline and dying. Dude had like 13K damage at the end of the game with like 6K healing. Fucking disgusting. He then blamed our DPS (I was on tank and was playing sigma/hog on junkertown to try and stay alive a bit more)
I hope that's not the kind of moira you are, Spencer
The only hero who should healbot rather than damage is Kiriko
@@ballsinyurjaws9809 lol
@@ballsinyurjaws9809 Sadly yes. Playing Kiriko like bap with cycling dps and heals is fun but it's way more optimal to just hold left click
@@owl8185 yeah i love kiriko and getting headshots, but she is the best healbot, you farm your ult so fast just by healing
The first guy made this titktok only to flex his GM rank
I love this series so much
I love how he says people don’t know how to heal while playing Zen who has absolutely zero healing.
"you have the biggest impact" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! oh wait you're serious? let me laugh even harder HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Support mains unite ✊
People who complain about a role they are actively choosing to play unite ✊
I mean the other roles are more important but the supports hold it all together, every role has their own impact.
@@badmajik7 instead of complaining I've quit the game. So GG bud enjoy longer queues as more people quit the role and the game
@@deusvult6920 Trust me I barely play the game much anymore in its current state, but if support mains bitch so much over how they HAVE to do their job as support, just go play another role or another game, nobody really cares. Playing support in overwatch isn't some struggle lmao
I feel like that first guy’s whole argument is “i’m gm so i’m right and you’re wrong”
I died when bro lost his shirt for a split second
bro took his shirt off to amp the apology
Flats getting angry about the dude calling out stylosa whilst calling out this specific tiktoker is so funny dude
i liked when his shirt disappeared
That's because you're gay.
@@Sergmanny46 oh damn you’re right, never thought about that
To be fair stylosa does have a habit of jumping the gun
flats is so flustered about the guy talking about styloso
then he tried to frame it as if he wasn't already kinda annoyed with this guy LOL
If the first guy is Grand Master then I’m a top 500 player. Guy needs to go outside
My man is trying to flex his non existant rank, he literally plays DPS Zen and just shoots out a healing orb when he remembers that Zen can heal
i used to watch ohdough and i think he actually is gm, however his takes are pretty schizophrenic right now.
@@hoodless_1 he has shitty takes on all games, when he played apex he seemed alright then he said that smurfing is good and it doesn't ruin the game for no one lmao
well he is gm and you are not top 500 so
@@denjii9 you are really on every reply defending your boyfriend huh 💀
Doomfist got godly buffs, no wonder he's being played in more metas
He was talking about dooms E and I was so confused because I forgot I had to change it
I am trying to be a better support by saying that every loss is 100% my fault and that I need to do better. I have been bronze since pretty much season 3. The highest I've ever climbed is high silver, and I think that's my skill ceiling and I'm becoming okay with that -- someone has to play at the lower ranks - even if they do have 1000 hours in the game. I just gotta keep practicing and keep trying to be better and I've stopped being toxic. I don't join voice chat and I supress game text chat - team only. It has made me be much more upbeat and have more fun at the low ranks. I will climb if I keep a positive attitude and keep trying to improve MY game. Love ya flatsy
lmao
Are you some troll or something?
@@Sergmanny46 I wish
good luck !
Oh that’s my man’s Mooky!!!
First guy definitely made an "ego-tok"
About the dive thing, I am not sure about the Na Meta because I am from EU, but in EU after double shield Meta endet around end of 2020 it went to ball sigma and then into ball dva brig zen sombra tracer dive comps until the end of OW1. With double shield not rly beeing seen at gm/t500 level.
The reason i gave up on support was because of the tank being across the map complaining about no healing while the enemies are diving us supports so we have to fend them off and die instead of keeping the team up as everyone ignores the fact there are hostiles picking off our backlines.
I always get so upset when the video is over because I want more
I just thought of something, since rein cannot do any damage while his shield is up they should give him a shield bash
Stylosa has been pumping out garbage low effort content for years and gets huge views, fair to call him out.
Quake with the nice guide 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Exactly, TSM is a gaming org, known worldwide. Along with many others. It could only help the pro scene to have it be recognized not just by the select overwatch community, but all of gaming.
Some Dev watched the Doom vid and got salty.. buffed the ever lovin' shet out of him.
Supports are expected to play pixel perfect 24/7, no other role has those expectations. There will always be people ready to queue Tank and DPS, but supports have waited years to see any improvement in game play experience, but it just keeps getting worse. Nothing is rewarding about queuing support, unless you have a shaming kink. When Reddit Lucios, Battle Moiras, 1 Tap Zens, and AC130 Mercy's are allowed to do their thing suddenly people are having fun again. But forcing people to queue into Ana and Kiriko to counter meta tanks, or Lucio to speed boost Reapers, Reins, and the others lard asses into viability just saps the fun out of the game.
I don't understand why they can't give Lucio his boop back (ie. one that doesn't get fortify blocked passively, you know the thing that made his kit fun), maybe give Zen some fun mobility like kicking off the ground to gain height, give Brigitte something like a variable shield that could change sizes. Nobody expects it to be perfect, but just do something.
Less than one support release per year since OW1 release, and only 1 in the last 1400 days... enough said.
Weird argument, but decent. Supports are getting tired of dealing with tank/dps sh*t arguments.
10:18gaslight is real😂
Easiest role in the game is DPS, your job is to get eliminations. If you're not getting any, then it's either a skill issue or don't have enough support compared to the other DPS. Just imagine it like three circles overlapping, each one representing a role.
There been so many games where I'm playing as a Healer and I am staring at the teammate through a wall just hoping and begging that they will step into a spot where I can look at them so I can get some bit of heals out and they just keep walking back and forth on the other side of the wall but not coming into view I don't know how many times I need to say please don't dive poorly I can't heal you when I can't see you
i just simply don't care anymore
i tell them this, i'm playing zen you want heals get in my line of sight i'm not risking my life for you
I’ve had the least deaths as support in the match for the last 20 games and lost probably 15 of them
was playing kiriko and teleported to help sojourn got up there and was surrounded by a bastion a solider and a doomfist. the sojourn had vanished. Even the enemy team was confused.
i laughed so fucking hard at you pointing out that that guys shirt just dissapeared for some reason like... why did he take it off for those 2 seconds.. why did he include it in the video.. what happened there
That "If you're from Europe, American Football names won't mean anything to you." is actually true. Someone made a joke the other day on Jets fans and I had to check google to understand what he meant.
FLATS REACTS LESSS GOOOO
I haven’t seen OhDough since he was playing Dauntless!! :0
Dude my friend fell for the doom info
That first guy had some weird takes that I've never heard from the GM level community.
I got a idea to buff bastion ult
make it so that the enemy team can’t see where he going to shoot they can just here his ult go of
Last guy at 13:30 was talking about calling their team like in any other esport. For example Cloud9 instead of London Spitfire.
And as someone who follows other esports I completely agree and think it‘s pretty weird to change their whole scheme to cities and regions especially when it doesn‘t make any difference since they all brawl in the same stadium
OhDough or whatever his name is needs to find out you don’t go after stylosa like that. Like his content or not, dude has given so much to this community and is definitely one of the content creator GOATs if not the top one. Hate or disagree with his content all you want but the dude deserves respect.
I play all roles and as support I have noticed I’m required to to much more dynamic play where I need to make decisions about when to deal damage and when to heal, what targets to prioritize and when to save myself instead of another player. As a tank player I also feel like I need to peel for my supports much more often than in OW1. Support demands a lot more from the player in OW2 than before.
2:00 The thing is, it being the easiest role to play well with has never been true.
"Playing well and not sucking" is not just maintaining your team alive and dealing some damage, that's the part that anybody could do.
It is assumed that both supports in BOTH teams are doing that.
The real question is how do you do stuff that goes above and beyond the baseline. THAT'S actually hard.
If you just healbot and every now and then use an utility, you are not contributing anything, you are just not AFK.
Wrong. There is always someone in the other team that is worse. Or it is you. All depends on who you're up against. They don't heal enough, they dps too much, they don't actually kill anyone, etc etc.
Tired of these same arguments every time, people have nothing new to say.
i love how half the vid is just one tiktok
As soon as Rein dies in a battle the healers will run away and leave the dps
Had low health rein with discord on, charge into whole team, dies then flames healers… put up your shield
GQO really out here becoming a politician with these lies lmao
The hardest support..... Zenyatta... Apparently
i approve of stylosa slander
If someone dies while i heal them it's not my fault.
Release more rants I need them.
Overwatch should bring back bastion’s old alt and it even makes more sense because he has a moving minute gun and a grenade
The reason I liked kiriko souch was because I could help my dps get kills more consistently when they flanked, well that and the ult. Thanks blizzard
I always prided myself on being a support main because I thought my role was hard. Turns out being a zen one trick did not enlighten me to how easy the rest of my role is too play.
I think we need some flats emongg seagull karQ jay3 conga line strat video.. please.. it's all I want for Xmas 🤣
First guy is the epitome of TikTok clout chasing
Someone should send flats j3s clip of "healers"😂