These Overwatch 2 Tiktok comments absolutely ruin my day

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  • @BunnyOfThunder
    @BunnyOfThunder ปีที่แล้ว +1049

    I'm starting to see that "I'm only losing because my teammates suck" is the biggest mistake in all of Overwatch.

    • @marinemanaphy101
      @marinemanaphy101 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      “I don’t belong at my rank, I’m only here because my teammates are always bad!” is definitely not unique to Overwatch but it’s still so goddamn frustrating lol

    • @tymandude1510
      @tymandude1510 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@marinemanaphy101 it's in every comp game I've ever played and I've played a lot of them.
      Like your teammates can suck and be frustrating but if you can't carry them you also suck.

    • @tbnrrenagade9507
      @tbnrrenagade9507 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      actually I would argue the biggest mistake isn't blaming teammates, it's not being able to acknowledge one's own mistakes as well.

    • @meat3958
      @meat3958 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@tymandude1510 tbf, even incredibly good players noticeably struggle when on a team and in a comp with clearly lower ranked players; they’re so used to playing well, and their enemies playing well to match them, that multiple confused low rank players with no strategy can look horrifying to them 😂 like some kind of wild hydra 😂💀

    • @3lit3gn0m3
      @3lit3gn0m3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      My brother and I stopped playing comp due to people like this. Ok, mostly me, but we did both stop.
      The people who constantly rag on their teammates are *consistently* the ones making mistakes. A Jesse/Cole/whatever who keeps running ahead of the tank without stopping yelling at supports for not keeping him alive when he constantly gets 1-2 tapped...several times in a row. These people are delusional and they want to drag everyone down with them.

  • @-NoNo.
    @-NoNo. ปีที่แล้ว +850

    1:40 there is no possible way this person exists… they really looked at the dps role and said that there’s not enough characters for a situation… imagine how support players feel with our severely lagging number of characters that are split among 2 people.

    • @AWildCooki
      @AWildCooki ปีที่แล้ว +128

      I, without a doubt, believe the guy making the tiktok is just generally bored of the game. Saying there is no variety is quite misplaced imo.

    • @n_aerial3734
      @n_aerial3734 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@AWildCooki exactly, the game just isn't for him at that point

    • @pedrosilvaproductions
      @pedrosilvaproductions ปีที่แล้ว +48

      His problem isn't lack of numbers, is lack of choice. Apparently he lacks "generalist DPS", aka, a hero he can use in any situation. That's not how the game works. Overwatch has strengths and weaknesses and that's how it works, people are not supposed to play a hero 24/7

    • @tymandude1510
      @tymandude1510 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      He was making some solid point about hard counters being generally bad for the game and that soft counters will exist to some extent and player skill is an important factor but then he uses that to say all the characters are boring?
      Seriously what kind of bizarre take is that.

    • @tymandude1510
      @tymandude1510 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@pedrosilvaproductions It's funny that he even thinks that when Masters and GM are full of 1 tricks who succeed.
      Overwatch clearly has the flexibility to allow someone to play only one character while simultaneously offering more synergistic picks with other Heroes or maps.

  • @Ambitwine
    @Ambitwine ปีที่แล้ว +1192

    never stop making this series lmao

    • @yesman2473
      @yesman2473 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      X2

    • @danielnobre3265
      @danielnobre3265 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i actualy want to see more of these

    • @savagetbagg
      @savagetbagg ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I actually want to see him play solo on a ALT an see how well him climbs the rank system 🤔 😄

    • @thatannoyingguyz6790
      @thatannoyingguyz6790 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@savagetbagg you know he’s had other accounts, where he has climbed to Gm

    • @ValdrthePraxama
      @ValdrthePraxama ปีที่แล้ว

      right??!!

  • @4589dude
    @4589dude ปีที่แล้ว +450

    Sojourn IS dominating in low ranks as well. Sometimes people can hit headshots, but they don't even need to because a fully charged railgun to the body is enough to finish off targets a lot of the time.

    • @Disappointed_Philosoraptor
      @Disappointed_Philosoraptor ปีที่แล้ว +101

      especially since everyone jsut stands in the open and feeds their brains out.

    • @HTGY6YTH67Y
      @HTGY6YTH67Y ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Even in gold right now I've watched killcams of absolute monsters flying around headshotting me with it. Character is absolutely bananas.

    • @Zekegedd
      @Zekegedd ปีที่แล้ว +105

      Yes, thank you! How many times is Flats going to say this nonsense. Sojourn is dominating in gold/plat/diamond too, AND they can hit head shots. The amount of times a Sojourn has been the sole savior of the point/cart to carry the enemy I can't even count. She is practically a brain dead character who takes less skill to use than most of the other dps.

    • @M9SSB
      @M9SSB ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Railgun is literally better helix rocket. You DO NOT NEED to hit headshots with it. You can quickly get targets to around half then delete them with charged railgun. Honestly removing railgun's ability to headshot would be a fine balance, it's still really strong without it

    • @tbnrrenagade9507
      @tbnrrenagade9507 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean, you can delete a 200hp target in half of a second with all bodyshots just by adding in the orb and a sixth of a second with a few headshots.

  • @JamesWilson-px9dh
    @JamesWilson-px9dh ปีที่แล้ว +486

    I actually had the tanks on both teams walk off the map by accident today at the same time. Looking at the replay everyone else on both teams just stood still and watched it for a moment.

    • @TheDalaiLigma
      @TheDalaiLigma ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Drop the code !

    • @ithinkitsET
      @ithinkitsET ปีที่แล้ว +12

      drop da code

    • @Saben.C-Spoon
      @Saben.C-Spoon ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Sounds majestic, like watching a bird take its first flight
      Drop the code

    • @Atzenarii
      @Atzenarii ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Drop the code! Hahaha

    • @karamei
      @karamei ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Code please lmao also what mode?

  • @reagansido5823
    @reagansido5823 ปีที่แล้ว +296

    My man actually called the heros "legends" lmao. At least SOME time went into making the tiktok but he never caught that?

    • @thedude4840
      @thedude4840 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Course not tiktok isn’t about quality it’s about quantity it’s why there’s so much brain pollution it overwhelms you.

    • @jayanimations494
      @jayanimations494 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      He said he played it for 5 years😂😂

    • @Hyde472
      @Hyde472 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely been playing for 5 years xD

    • @michabodnar7739
      @michabodnar7739 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Calling them classes is superior

    • @rear5118
      @rear5118 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jayanimations494 more like 5 minutes

  • @RabbitWhiteThe
    @RabbitWhiteThe ปีที่แล้ว +146

    Bearded dude was straight gaslighting everyone. I'm all for hitting W and going madlad on the enemy with Hog, but damn, you can't let a Rein take space like that man! Dude has a shield to create cover in Narnia

    • @rockyadams2825
      @rockyadams2825 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Right lol as someone who mains Reinhard and road hog the one thing I like more about roadhog is I can be aggressive without being balls deep in the other team because of the hook

  • @OmegaSaurus
    @OmegaSaurus ปีที่แล้ว +118

    That "I've played for 5 years" is either hard stuck in plat or only plays QP

    • @khaledahmed9136
      @khaledahmed9136 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      or played one game every update...

    • @bonfire9630
      @bonfire9630 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Bro please dont disrespect plat players like this, this person is not plat 100%

    • @Zythixx
      @Zythixx ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm plat, and that guy definitely aint plat. Silver 4 at most.

    • @ThePhysicalReaction
      @ThePhysicalReaction ปีที่แล้ว

      The guy is visibly mentally stunted, and maybe just wants to achieve his dream of being a tikTok star.

    • @nolanl4196
      @nolanl4196 ปีที่แล้ว

      For the first clip, this video was originally uploaded to youtube, and they were talking about their experience as a new player. It just got re-upload to tiktok.

  • @Vanlifecrisis
    @Vanlifecrisis ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I played against widow in qp once, and felt so bad that i told her in chat she had to...charge the rifle. I know just letting her spam no damage shots at us helped our team, but it was just too painful. What gets me is why didnt HER team inform her lol

    • @sheikad0w
      @sheikad0w ปีที่แล้ว +12

      i had a widow on my team who didn’t know you could scope in...

    • @christianrule02
      @christianrule02 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I played against genji in deathmatch as rein and he kept coming up to me and dying to hammer swings mo deflect or dash so i typed in the chat that deflect works on hammer swings, they still didnt do it

    • @assimilater-quicktips
      @assimilater-quicktips ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Honestly, her team likely didn't know she wasn't charging.

    • @Eadwulf_Skald
      @Eadwulf_Skald ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@assimilater-quicktips They should tho... If you can't figure that out when you hear a widow go shot after shot in quick succession then I don't know what to tell you.

    • @assimilater-quicktips
      @assimilater-quicktips ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Eadwulf_Skald if they weren't charging their shots they probably were in bronze. Awareness of what you're teammates are doing in bronze is at an all time low. Silver isn't much better. It's an important skill to climb out of those ranks so sure, they "should". I'm just being realistic

  • @reflectedpoj622
    @reflectedpoj622 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    It's so weird to see the community divided between people who have played this game for years and the people who just picked up the game after f2p. The difference is night and day.

    • @shioneko1402
      @shioneko1402 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This is "the third category of people who watched OW1 content for years before playing OW2 and therefore have a better grasp on concepts, terms, and ideas than newbies while still having a COMPLETE lack of mechanical skill" erasure

    • @Eadwulf_Skald
      @Eadwulf_Skald ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@shioneko1402 Or just people that have a basic understanding of FPS games who realise they need to learn and ask questions instead of talking shit/start giving tips immediately.
      It's been years since my last FPS game but Overwatch 2 drew me in. It's been fun and I'm learning so you're not gonna catch me complaining about anything.

  • @zachvry7500
    @zachvry7500 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I hear “He’s a Steelers fan, so he’s stupid” and I almost dropped to the floor in laugher

  • @HermanManly
    @HermanManly ปีที่แล้ว +30

    That Grav at the end low-key helped the enemy team stack up instead of trickling lmao

  • @ZaWrldo
    @ZaWrldo ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Dude really walked in 4v1 with no vape and no hook and expected to live

    • @ferael0013
      @ferael0013 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am a bronze player and tbh? Maybe I'd do dumb shit like this during the game. But rewatching this later? I can clearly see that he straight up just fed. Absolute garbage gameplay

    • @P.H691
      @P.H691 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Road hog may be chunky, but that chunkiness can’t let him survive an entire team attack

    • @Kotoy1
      @Kotoy1 ปีที่แล้ว

      i hardly disagree with flats on that one. they could have easily pushed ahead past the rein.

    • @KaseyC.
      @KaseyC. ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Kotoy1 ah, yes, just casually and easily walk past the guy with the massive hammer he's likely going to bashing into your skull any second.

    • @Kotoy1
      @Kotoy1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KaseyC. the melee guy that you can just outrange. Wouldve taken a couple seconds to get 1-2 picks on the enemy backline then turn on the rein and kill him

  • @NiraSader
    @NiraSader ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That last one, real classy gamer move to call your teammate dumb for first timing a character and not knowing everything about them lmao.

    • @KaseyC.
      @KaseyC. ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Shouldn't be in comp if it's first time with any character

    • @shitisreal4046
      @shitisreal4046 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "and not knowing everything lmaoo"
      no he just dumb and his teammate rightfully call him out
      That player : "mmmh i wonder why Baptiste has two type of ammunation, i will spend half a round not checking my right click"

    • @shitisreal4046
      @shitisreal4046 ปีที่แล้ว

      And he is also playing comp

  • @thebigbingus8624
    @thebigbingus8624 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I like how brutally honest you are my guy, people won't learn if they don't get told what they're doing wrong. I remember when I first stumbled on your channel, I was a bronze bot and was not pulling my weight. My aim is alright, but I struggled with positioning and overextending, and I will honestly admit I did not know how to properly play the game. After watching a few videos and actually trying to improve my gameplay, I've climbed to gold and am still climbing! Hoping to eventually get to platinum, I think if I work at it I can make it. So I just wanted to thank you for telling me strait up that I was dogshit, the criticism was very helpful, and I'm actually improving now.
    Edit: Spelling lol

    • @tbnrrenagade9507
      @tbnrrenagade9507 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you can do it. the biggest skill gaps are bronze/silver to gold and plat to diamond, so you're in the clear for now.

  • @3lit3gn0m3
    @3lit3gn0m3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    4:47 I wasn't a tank player, but back before role queue I was proud that I was able to properly play dive alongside my Winston while playing Dva with our Genji, followed by the rest of our team. My only reference was watching online tourneys (pre-owl) but it was an old enough strat in my mind that it worked just fine.
    7:05 "I've been playing for like 5 years" riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. I love it when people lie to make their opinions seem more valid. "you probably don't know, but I've been the queen for like 3 years." I hate this guy already.

  • @MrStJohnny
    @MrStJohnny ปีที่แล้ว +3

    5:40 "oh he's a steelers fan... oh so he's stupid" had me in literal tears.. paused/rewound that part easily 3-5 times

  • @FrankGrimes311
    @FrankGrimes311 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    'So this is the player you've been getting on your team for the last 5years' made me laugh so hard

  • @jacobkalbfleisch5431
    @jacobkalbfleisch5431 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    9:50 I've accidentally fed as a tank plenty of times because I thought my team was following me, but the difference is when I die I feel bad for not realizing I was feeding instead of getting mad at my team

  • @note718
    @note718 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    6:50
    5 years of playing and says "Legends"

  • @eagleangel5568
    @eagleangel5568 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    That last one is funny lol when you realize a support character can do something else besides what you just know loo

  • @GollyWillikers
    @GollyWillikers ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “You never have to balance the game ever, you can just release characters because they look cool” that’s exactly what For Honor is lmao

    • @coolssdude3063
      @coolssdude3063 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh God why can I not unsee overwatch slowly turning into for honor😭

  • @OseronPhaer
    @OseronPhaer ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have to disagree with the Sojourn point somewhat. While it is true that she isn't dominant in lower ranks, she still pops up all the time and has a tendency to outperform in games. She isn't oppressive like she is at the highest level of play. But the notion that she isn't impacting lower levels is, in my experience, total nonsense. Just because the average Silver of Gold player isn't clicking heads all the time doesn't mean she isn't a problem down low, either, and makes the balancing team's rationale even more ludicrous.

  • @Themrajester2
    @Themrajester2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sojourn in plat is definitely doin the same thing

  • @kylepackard7499
    @kylepackard7499 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    NPC-"Bro you're so dumb!!"
    Based new player- "and you're in this game too"

  • @lajahamamomo
    @lajahamamomo ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Had that Bap situation with a friend of mine. He was new to OW but only played DPS so he knew those characters. He wanted to heal so I told him to pocket me playing tank. Throughout the match I kept telling him to heal me, so he would use the AOE. I then noticed him firing healing grenades at the enemy and asked him what he was shooting at and realized why he was never healing me. When I told him the grenades only heal allies, we both busted out laughing. He went back to strictly DPS and I went back to being the groups main support.

  • @susanavrilchavezrendon7094
    @susanavrilchavezrendon7094 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Yesterday I had a lucio throw because I picked genji, and when I switched mei he instantly started to pop off and started Picking me up from spawn, most hilarious shit ever

    • @rumbiez4528
      @rumbiez4528 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      why do you need to be speedbuffed out of spawn as genji, you already have the mobility on your own

    • @susanavrilchavezrendon7094
      @susanavrilchavezrendon7094 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@rumbiez4528 I didn't say I needed it as genji but I still found hilarious how he had 0 healing and was actively feeding when I was genji and when I switched he went as far as Picking me up from spawn, mind you he was good sports and really chill, he just really hated the fact that I was on genji for some reason

    • @javianbrown8627
      @javianbrown8627 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@susanavrilchavezrendon7094 I actually like having Genji players on my team as a Kiriko player. My Genji players are honestly mostly decent but even if they're not I have someone to teleport to in the enemy backlines if I need to help pick someone off and for some reason Genji players are always low on health so it's like we're best buds even without talking. I see them just stop and look at me when they notice that I saved them lol

    • @meat.
      @meat. ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@susanavrilchavezrendon7094 he’s not a good sport if he throws bc of a character

    • @billyjoelbeans
      @billyjoelbeans ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@javianbrown8627 don't tp in lmao. You should get reamed basically everytime. Very situational

  • @ironnatepup
    @ironnatepup ปีที่แล้ว +14

    my brother in christ sojourn is not only a problem in high elo

    • @Destinedhellfire
      @Destinedhellfire ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Unless "Low elo" means silver and bronze, then yeah no... I consistently see Sojourn almost every single game in both gold and plat lobbies and they dominate 9 out of 10 times

    • @michaelj49
      @michaelj49 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Destinedhellfire Even in unranked lol, you ought to be seeing people playing sojourn and absolutely dominate the whole game

    • @TarlukLegion
      @TarlukLegion ปีที่แล้ว

      Everyone plays Sojourn even in low ranks because even if they can't get as much out of them as they might with even just a Soldier or Pharah, they PERCIEVE them to be very strong because they're batshit broken in high elos. Same reason why everyone played Genji in low elos.

    • @amaterasublackflames8067
      @amaterasublackflames8067 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      wtf is this shit with sojourn is only good in high elo? 8/10 times in gold matches i see her. you dont even need to be that good aim-wise. even decent and you are gonna dominate the game...

    • @tymandude1510
      @tymandude1510 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was according to Blizzard's data which said that her winrate was pretty low outside of GM.

  • @ItsJCrew
    @ItsJCrew ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It always blows my mind how almost every gaming community believes their game to be the most toxic. I've even heard rocket league players say their community is by far the most toxic which after playing for over a year is absurd to me. I don't know if these people just want to feel special or if they are genuinely ignorant about toxicity in other games. I competed in minecraft pvp for 5 years back in the mid 2010's and it was scarily common for people to get DDoS'd or doxxed after winning. There weren't many early pvp streamers for this reason. Even with this background, I am aware that this was not the most toxic community of all time. Probably not even top 3. If a game is competitive in any form, then there will inevitably be substantial toxicity. People just want to feel special I guess.

    • @ithinkknot3564
      @ithinkknot3564 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was Minecraft really that toxic? That’s kind of hard to believe

    • @tbnrrenagade9507
      @tbnrrenagade9507 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ithinkknot3564 public pvp was and sometimes still is (though substantially less)

    • @javianbrown8627
      @javianbrown8627 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's because many players are in a vacuum where they only know of a few game and play even less consistently compared to the ammount of games exist so they isolate that limited experience they've had. OW players in my experience have actually been less toxic than even Brawlhalla players and that's a 2D platform fighting game. Apex players have huge egos so they're pretty toxic too at times but even that's just my own experience and those I've seen

    • @iro9697
      @iro9697 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many people just play a couple games they like or only stick to one, they form a bubble around themselves about what they think is the "most toxic" game and base it on that. With that being said, I believe that any video game that has the /v/ community on 4chan involved in any way will be the most toxic sewage sludge shit you have ever encountered.

  • @damon6086
    @damon6086 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    7:30 even low elo players know how to stop deflect or they just don't shoot him while he does it and they recently started focusing Genji as soon as blade comes out.

    • @tbnrrenagade9507
      @tbnrrenagade9507 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *some* low elo players.

    • @javianbrown8627
      @javianbrown8627 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I occasionally get players that don't. Problem is the Genji reflects it into me as the support player so they just keep shooting as they're like "I'm not taking any damage". When they reflect it back into them they eventually learn though

    • @Kotoy1
      @Kotoy1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@javianbrown8627 yeah fucking this. id be watching the killcam and its some sojourn just pouring all her clip into a deflecting genji right in my face

  • @BilingualRainbow
    @BilingualRainbow ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Anakin on high ground.' Imagine the power.

  • @ScaryCod
    @ScaryCod ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The overwatch community is definitely not as toxic as the valorant community

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a terminal plat flex player, I accept that I am often as dumb or even dumber as the teammates my brain wants to blame to make it feel better about itself.

  • @michaelj49
    @michaelj49 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Top players need to stop generalizing and saying the same argument over and over again; the "sojourn is not dominating in low elo because bronze cant aim lmao lol" is not true. You can even see them in unranked, and in some games as well. Yes maybe there are less good sojourns in the lower elos but dude, they do exist and ruin the game for everyone else. These people be lowering the stakes for bronzes and such as if they have been a top player their whole life.

    • @Anthony-oz1jc
      @Anthony-oz1jc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you are arguing agaisnt actual data, lol

    • @lopsidedanxiety4190
      @lopsidedanxiety4190 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Anthony-oz1jc i'm sure if u look at actual data in low elo, widow will need massive buffs

    • @babab0iii699
      @babab0iii699 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@souljacrankthat brother, how can u call widow's ult bad when it literally gives u wallhack for 15 secs in fps game? I'm sorry to say that, but ur take is stupid

  • @RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers
    @RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Make no mistake, Sojourn is broken in lower elos too - anyone who says she isn't is lying. I'm an old, decaying reflexes Gen-xer who gets around 45% accuracy on Cass & Ashe. I'm utter shite on Widow. I'm getting multiple 60-70% railgun accuracy games per night because the hitbox on the fully charged railgun shot is just too fucking large.
    If a hero allows my mediocre aiming ass to hit 50%+ of their one-shot-kill shots, that hero is BUSTED.

  • @bopply2616
    @bopply2616 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For hero picks, it's different for each role. Tank, you pick for map and whether your attacking or defending. Support, you pick based on mainly your tank but sometimes based on dps. DPS, is very map dependent and often based on what the enemy picked. At least thats how I think about it

  • @thassilokilian905
    @thassilokilian905 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for saying how it is.
    I see myself way too often in these clips....
    Actually helps me trying to do better.

    • @karamei
      @karamei ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is a fantastic attitude! Good luck, and you can definitely do it. The desire/awareness to improve is important for all players, since as they say, you are the only thing you can control

  • @Torika2724
    @Torika2724 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As a new Baptiste main, that last clip scares me because I have to imagine Baptiste without his grenade launcher.
    Imagine this: his only way to heal other players is with a tiny AoE ability on a 15 second cooldown. This is also his only self heal so he’ll likely need to use it on himself in a dire situation before getting to his teammates. I don’t want to live in a reality like that.

    • @titancheat
      @titancheat ปีที่แล้ว

      He has less mobility and longer cool down than other support :/

    • @123Suffering456
      @123Suffering456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I imagined it too and it felt so uncomfortable.

  • @quinbob3957
    @quinbob3957 ปีที่แล้ว

    Low elo comp makes me so confused, one round the opposing team is popping off and then the next round they act like they turned off their monitors.

  • @YSOSRIOUS84
    @YSOSRIOUS84 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Omg I love watching these. There are soooo many more videos of new players that you would have content for weeks.
    Can't wait for the next one!

    • @karamei
      @karamei ปีที่แล้ว

      same, this is a good series and I guess a bit of an ego boost LMAO

    • @YSOSRIOUS84
      @YSOSRIOUS84 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karamei yea maybe. Lol. But I'm so glad for all the new players giving life to that game. I'm enjoying the game so much more than the past few years.

    • @karamei
      @karamei ปีที่แล้ว

      @@YSOSRIOUS84 Oh yeah, the players who truly enjoy it for the kind of game it is (aka not the dude who wants every hero to be the same lol) and are actively seeking to improve are great

    • @YSOSRIOUS84
      @YSOSRIOUS84 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karamei yea true. I just hope the game can keep up the momentum. Always gonna have players like him but like us when we started eventually they will learn. Lol

  • @justgimmemymoneey
    @justgimmemymoneey ปีที่แล้ว +11

    i feel like flats chat just agrees with flats because they don't want to be called dumb

    • @LordJackass
      @LordJackass ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That can be said for anywhere to be honest, tik tok is probably the same way. The big key difference however is the credentials. Flats is in GM.
      The key to not being a lemming though is to ask yourself ”why?” and form a pattern out of your conclusions to each piece of advice he gives with no explanation and sometimes advice _with_ explanations.

    • @benhawk4214
      @benhawk4214 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah like tbh it felt like for the one guy who said he was playing 5 years it felt like flats was just making a bunch of assumptions for content tbh

  • @Bigboiii
    @Bigboiii ปีที่แล้ว +18

    One of these actually made me think, crazy ik, but fr I remember when I first played OW it felt like every character had its own unique, thrilling experience but now for me every character has the same experience of steam rolling whether it’s winning or losing

    • @jari2018
      @jari2018 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its usa and thier "fairness" whining to the extreme -tis happend when every charater should do all the same things as the other characters -heal dps tank =Birgitte when she was new

    • @BurdArtist
      @BurdArtist ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jari2018 what

    • @neomorphosallomorphis7395
      @neomorphosallomorphis7395 ปีที่แล้ว

      i agree with that, all reworks and balance changes for OW2 made characters less unique. Some status effects have been reduced to absolute minimum, deleted, or made generic. Like : mei's freeze, sombra's hack, bastion turret form immobility, doom's combos, purple nade now available to other characters...

  • @GRIMHOOD99
    @GRIMHOOD99 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last clip Flats: You are both stupid.
    Me: This is why you are my favorite tank tik toker.

  • @southern1999
    @southern1999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 3 things from flat that I live for is tiktok, roll for sandwich, and spectating bronze

  • @aidanpitzer7917
    @aidanpitzer7917 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    as a steelers fan, i apologize on his behalf. his ignorance does not represent our community.

    • @jakesteel3020
      @jakesteel3020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean the guy isn't wrong. Overwatch is listed in the top most toxic communities. It not the most but it is up there along with some of the communities that flats listed himself.

    • @peryshko1273
      @peryshko1273 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jakesteel3020 a game where not typing "gg" is considered toxic among people?

    • @iro9697
      @iro9697 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jakesteel3020 Honestly... OW isn't really even the top 5 most toxic gaming communities, RUST and CoD probably has most other games beat

    • @lassehoffmann625
      @lassehoffmann625 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jakesteel3020 dude if you into any anarchy server in minecraft its more toxic then this, and you can count each of those as a different comunity

  • @trentkobielusz
    @trentkobielusz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    watching him rage at the most insignificant stuff is too funny

    • @iro9697
      @iro9697 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's his job to be over-reactive as a content creator, it's how you get people's attention.

  • @Stephakaii
    @Stephakaii ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I find it funny when people call out counterpicking. Like, countering has always been in FPS games? Even in CoD, if there's a guy using a shotgun you fight them at range, or a sniper you edit your loadout to pick a sniper and deal with them. Going all the way back to games like Unreal, you would adapt your playstyle by using different weapons and abilities to most effectively deal with your enemies.
    Yes, it can seem petty, and it IS petty a lot of the time, but the logical conclusion of "getting rid of counterpicking" is everyone moves, plays, attacks, and defends the exact same way because countering is inherent to having distinct and unique characters.

    • @mlgsty8880
      @mlgsty8880 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no countering really in CSGO and it is one of the most populous games by player numbers. Its raw mechanics by movement and shooting and outplaying using the equipment given to you. Only counter is to maybe stack a site but that is just gambling.
      And honestly I would not call picking sniper against shotgun countering because you need specific kind of map for it to be actually effective. Back in the old days you could most of time beat snipers with shotgun if you just knew where they camped. I doubt COD has changed that much.

  • @Me-hz2ls
    @Me-hz2ls ปีที่แล้ว

    "we are trying to move away from hard counters"
    doomfist: Am i a joke to you?

  • @MorinoTengu
    @MorinoTengu ปีที่แล้ว +4

    it's mind blowing for me people actualy start playing a game and don't know what the characters do

  • @ThatPython
    @ThatPython ปีที่แล้ว +3

    8:38 stale aint even have to do us like that, gold is not that bad

  • @ryleytls4950
    @ryleytls4950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro starting at 11:25 I’m dying bruh 😂😂 “you think your anikan with the high ground 😂”

  • @marinemanaphy101
    @marinemanaphy101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why do any of these people play Overwatch, they don’t understand how any of it works and it’s clearly causing them a lot of frustration.
    Also anyone who complains that their teammates are always bad is 100% projecting. I have never in my hundreds of hours in Overwatch played with a single person who said “I’m really good, but my teammates always suck” who didn’t immediately prove that they were the problem.

  • @darthplagueis13
    @darthplagueis13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well, we do know that Sojourn is getting changes for S2.
    The lead hero designer said they were looking at her one-tap potential and iirc they mentioned at another time that they felt that Sojourn performs too well on high elo but needs a little help on low elo.
    My guess is, they're gonna take away some power from her alt fire and slightly buff her primary fire instead.

    • @meat.
      @meat. ปีที่แล้ว +8

      She needs no help. Legit claps people in gold games

    • @billyjoelbeans
      @billyjoelbeans ปีที่แล้ว +10

      She should really be gutted heavy tbh. Increase in hitbox is actually warranted. Up slide cooldown(maybe reduce cc cooldown but I know its stronger in good hands but low ranks waste the shit out of that thing, probably more emphasis on that) and make railgun decay way quicker and she might be sort of fair. Its just wonky

    • @scotttimbrell8632
      @scotttimbrell8632 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@billyjoelbeans Nah for her "cc" if it's even classes as that, just make it either do a butt ton of damage, or slow harder, not both.

    • @billyjoelbeans
      @billyjoelbeans ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scotttimbrell8632 sojourns cc is very very strong

    • @scotttimbrell8632
      @scotttimbrell8632 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@billyjoelbeans Only because it does a truck ton of damage as well as slow. Again in my comment i said either make it do damage, or make the slow stronger to make up for the fact a dps isnt doing damage, as it stands right now, she cant be the counterpart to soldier because she has a damage ability and not a utility ability, which just makes her so much better as a whole.

  • @folgate08
    @folgate08 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He says sojourn isnt effecting gold games 😂. Okay dude. I play sojourn in Silver and do things I shouldn’t be able to do. Walk past the the sigma pop ult and kill 4. Plus her kit is super good, slide and her E is good too. She doesn’t really have much of a weakness, her hitbox is super tiny too. Flats just doesn’t want to accept that a lot of ppl don’t like his game lol! Always playing devils advocate.

  • @moosmanz
    @moosmanz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:03
    On behalf if the Apex Legends community, we do not accept him as one of our own. Thank You.

  • @b.r.207
    @b.r.207 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:40
    Translator here. This guy is probably a TF2 player, and from the terms used in this video ('Classes' and 'Generalists'), a competitive TF2 Player.
    I'm not going to dwell deep into the gameplay theory of "competitive traditional 6s tf2" but just know that there is a community-derived categorization for the different characters in the game based on their playstyle. Generalists are valuable in almost every situation due to their damage and movement versatility able to switch from defense to offense, flank to frontline, ranged to close quarters etc. at a moment's notice. The opposite is a specialist who is really good at one or a few jobs and who's weaknesses would cripple a team most of the time.

  • @M1slenderman
    @M1slenderman ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don’t know how people say sojourn isn’t dominating in low elo like I understand maybe bronze and silver but in all my high gold low plat games whenever sojourn is picked they always dominate

  • @derekgamin85
    @derekgamin85 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love your videos flats and you've helped me improve so much since starting. I have to disagree with Sojourn not dominating gold. I'm mid gold rn and jus about every game theres a cracked out Sojourn 1 tapping people like crazy.

    • @tbnrrenagade9507
      @tbnrrenagade9507 ปีที่แล้ว

      as that sojourn, sorry if I ever faced you.

    • @FGPlus
      @FGPlus ปีที่แล้ว

      Peter griffin is so conceited

  • @mythmage8231
    @mythmage8231 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Sojourn's not dominating the gold ranks. They can't hit a headshot to save their lives"
    Not only is hitting headshots a possibility when you're not easily focused down for moving 2 inches a second like Widow, but you don't need to hit headshots on Sojourn. 130 to the body is more than enough burst

  • @adamstilber8382
    @adamstilber8382 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:30
    "I've been playing Overwatch for like five years" bro you've been in silver for five years.

  • @kirimiddo1780
    @kirimiddo1780 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Flats I do want to say you contradict yourself when you talk about Sojurn. Blizzard talks about stats we all know is bs but then you believe the "twitter sphere." Yes take it as antidotal evidence however Sojurn is a problem in plat+. My main is Masters 1 tank and Diamond 3 DPS, I also have an alt account in plat 3 (For doomfist and JQ learning.) In those ranks there are people we call Deathmatch widow makers (now sojurn as well) their positioning sucks, but their aim is super good bc they spend all day in headshot only lobbies. Even though their POS is dog they still can easily dominate in Plat/Diamond bc people dont typically punish bad POS. Combine their decent headshot lobby aim with the movement of plats/diamond (AKA slightly more curved than a straight line) and it makes headshots pretty easy for them. Now obviously it's not NEARLY as bad as it is in High master/GM however it is still an overall meme and a problem in SOME games but not ALL. (would say like 35/65 which can still be demotivating for alot of people in lower ranks)

  • @JackoTheDragon24
    @JackoTheDragon24 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love this man. No homo

    • @Mooam
      @Mooam ปีที่แล้ว

      Be full homo.

    • @mihnea2621
      @mihnea2621 ปีที่แล้ว

      nah man i love him full homo

  • @moallayoussef5462
    @moallayoussef5462 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    in gold and below any team that picks soujourn wins. don't look at only winrate also look at pickrate

  • @Gamerdude-gd6tp
    @Gamerdude-gd6tp ปีที่แล้ว

    "He's a Steelers fan so he's stupid"
    I live in Pittsburgh and never have I heard of something so true

  • @notvex3987
    @notvex3987 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I personally believe im not at my rank and my teammates are why im stuck in a rank i dont deserve to be in,
    I deserve to be lower,cause i shouldnt even be able to play comp because of how bad i am and my teammates keep carrying me

  • @dracoindustires3979
    @dracoindustires3979 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The steelers joke made me bust put laughing 💀

  • @matthewfargo3114
    @matthewfargo3114 ปีที่แล้ว

    “If you duo you have 3 chances to have a bad player”
    Flats, my duos bad but I know em irl

  • @Lordviridian
    @Lordviridian ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Soujorns in gold are still headshotting everything

  • @brbdogking7643
    @brbdogking7643 ปีที่แล้ว

    “No variety” *Picks solider which is literally COD simulator”

  • @spacecowboy7193
    @spacecowboy7193 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got brand new players in gold all the time in OW1. And in OW2, they dropped me down from plat to who knows where. Getting brand new players is constant. You don’t have to be super low to see it.

  • @aaronsmith2044
    @aaronsmith2044 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your team shooting a genji while he is deflecting not even realizing that there are characters that can damage him through deflect.

  • @scheherazade2291
    @scheherazade2291 ปีที่แล้ว

    The guy who was saying that Overwatch is a toxic community: if you suggest a switch, because there’s so many characters, that player may not be able to play your suggestion but switching to something else means they may be acknowledging that they need to switch.

  • @-p0izenedivy-289
    @-p0izenedivy-289 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anakin… on high ground. It was Obi-Wan who had the high ground 😭

  • @MansterBear
    @MansterBear ปีที่แล้ว

    I go Soldier 70% of the time because getting heals in Silver is hit and miss.
    I had the best mercy I've ever played with the other day. Healing me regularly, boosting me when I didn't need health, leaving at the right time to help teammates, etc. I didn't even need an E key.
    Other times it's like I can go an entire game and never be healed mid fight, and I have to call for it a couple times if we win the fight and there's plenty of time to top everyone off.

  • @themoderndaygamer637
    @themoderndaygamer637 ปีที่แล้ว

    Low and mid rank players won’t play the “meta” because most are trying to climb anyway and they have decided to pick a few characters to play

  • @YouBitTheBullet
    @YouBitTheBullet ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a lot of these new overwatch players have likely come from apex, which is probably where the whole "my teammates are bad, not me" came from because i cannot tell you HOW many apex players have that mentality

  • @jinxysaberk
    @jinxysaberk 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    not knowing what a character can do is not forgivable there is literally a button we all use to figure out how to play new characters. the button is told to you in the tutorial you HAVE to play

  • @declanflannery3815
    @declanflannery3815 ปีที่แล้ว

    No one:
    Ow tictok: Ranking all the overwatch characters in no particular order

  • @jake120007
    @jake120007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i actually had to tell a teammate of mine the other day that bap has heal grenades, im in gold on pc
    also,
    OW dev team: we are trying to move away from hard counter picking
    Same dev team: *releases kiriko and junker queen right next to eachother*

  • @hammondarmy4774
    @hammondarmy4774 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    POV: you are a part of the casual overwatch community

  • @ashe274
    @ashe274 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Oh that heals!?!"
    I lost it. xD

  • @jerod4036
    @jerod4036 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think people forget that even if he misses his hook, he can still kill you. His gun still does damage when hook is on cooldown. Just because he missed his hook doesn't mean you are safe from him.

  • @MarkusAT
    @MarkusAT ปีที่แล้ว

    Today I had this complete dumpster fire of a match.. teammate insta locked Rein and constantly charged to enemy Bastion, Ana and Zenyatta.
    There's no way to cancel this hard subscription for death..

  • @CrankinMyHOG
    @CrankinMyHOG ปีที่แล้ว

    Career gold player (and one fluke Diamond season) here. I started trying sojourn a few weeks ago because I thought all the OP talk was fake (I don’t play against good players) turns out she will dominate in low ranks. Players stand in her disrupter shot like it doesn’t kill squishy heros. They don’t strafe, only walk in straight lines, so headshots are pretty easy to line up. There’s always a mercy every game so a damage boost for her ult is almost guaranteed (except healbots) i don’t find comp fun because I like to fool around in game, but what bit I have played, I’ve been climbing pretty well. I think the reason she’s “not dominating” low tier play is because a lot of golds and below (myself included) just haven’t realized how easy it is to do well with her.

  • @CharterForGaming
    @CharterForGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you balance for the biggest player base, because in the end of the day you want as many people to play the game as possible

  • @ghostriposte2977
    @ghostriposte2977 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hate his take of “sojourn doesn’t dominate low ranks” he doesn’t know, he genuinely doesn’t know, I had to climb from bronze 5 all the way to plat (which generally isn’t hard if you start at the start of a season but I waited till the last week or so) after everyone had actually placed so I was playing with actual dogshit players and sojourn would dominate every match, the issue is the teammates are garbage in low ranks, so sojourn can be clicking heads all game and still lose.
    That’s literally the only reason why blizzard thinks she’s bad in low elo.

  • @ethancarson8047
    @ethancarson8047 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:57 I have had many sombra encounters like that, and I have to say it is annoying, but that only happens in low ranks.

  • @QueenLizby
    @QueenLizby ปีที่แล้ว

    I have NO IDEA where that Twitter sphere got it's data because I have seen consistently, when a team has a sojourn, EVEN A BAD sojourn, they usually win the game by suppression alone

  • @poland2016
    @poland2016 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tik tok thought me to stand still when Shooting so my aim is better B)

  • @tyramer6473
    @tyramer6473 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man you say it doesn’t happen in most games but in the balls deep of silver I had someone leave 5 games in a row. Twas so much fun

  • @MeMyselfAndK
    @MeMyselfAndK ปีที่แล้ว

    "Long range DPS will always counter close-range only DPS"
    Exceptions to this:
    Tracer (Her mobility allows her to get up close)
    Genji (His kit allows him to close in on low targets and secure an elimination (as long as they don't have peel or if you're fast enough))
    Sombra (Her invisibility allows her to close in on targets without them knowing)
    Reaper (Teleport allows him to get up close to rush)
    Mei (Her wall can be used to close off poke classes and provide value to the team without eliminating them directly, in other words preventing them from doing damage)
    Symmetra (Her teleport and turret bombing capabilities make her super lethal super quick so long the enemy team doesn't discover that she's setting up)
    Torbjorn (He doesn't have damage falloff and therefore can challenge lackluster long-range enemies if they don't have worse mechanical skill)
    This doesn't mean that these characters counter long-range poke, but they simply are skill dependent matchups and what it REALLY comes down to is awareness and prioritisation

  • @vrbirdboi1494
    @vrbirdboi1494 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fact that I am probably worse than all of those players is depressing

  • @DeathlyQuietVA
    @DeathlyQuietVA ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 4/5 chances or whatever isn't true if the enemy even stacks.. like 5-4-3 stacks..

  • @nevinvu2134
    @nevinvu2134 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s always the worst player on the team that starts complaining about his teammates.

  • @slaygoblins
    @slaygoblins ปีที่แล้ว

    Got dominated by sojourn in my silver matches last night. Was literally headshotting my entire team as soon as we spawned

  • @KazuumaSatou
    @KazuumaSatou ปีที่แล้ว

    Once I figured out the difference between healer and support I climbed to masters 5 I feel like if people figure out the difference they will climb dramatically as well.
    I started playing bap and instead of constantly spamming heals I fought more and helped against duels “SUPPORTING THEM” if you may
    Support is literally enabling your teammates to do stuff
    But when you’re a healer are you really enabling your teammates if you only heal them?
    Your 10k healing doesn’t mean squat if you have 100dmg and Kiriko.
    Your 36 elims doesn’t mean squat if you only succ 2 hp targets with your 3k heals that are mainly self heals.
    However though there was a game where my team had to rely on a dps moira Our moira won any duel and had managed to get more damage and elims than our actual dps.
    Moral of the story is:
    If you hear someone say “Our healers aren’t healing” take a couple notes
    1 They labeled you as a healer.
    2 What comp is the enemy running
    Heals can’t do anything against heroes that can one shot people
    3 “Tell them no amount of healing can save how bad you are”
    Support them in their fights by doing dps and healing.

  • @merryglowround
    @merryglowround ปีที่แล้ว

    3:30
    I agree, it’s stupid that they balance heroes for low ranks
    High ranked players play this game the most, but we‘re balancing the roster for people who play the game like once a week

  • @FronkZappa
    @FronkZappa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad to see even 5 years later, genji players are still viewed as one moral rung above serial killers by silver supports eternally enraged that a genji in their game had the audacity to use the call for heal button when they were slightly outside of their heal range and died.

  • @CowKirbo
    @CowKirbo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That bap might be his 2nd time PLAYING BAP. can't confirm just a guess.

  • @slinkyshuffles3214
    @slinkyshuffles3214 ปีที่แล้ว

    "The Overwatch community is one of THE most toxic communites ever."
    Someone hasn't played League of Legends.