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Monster Hunter Rise: Sunbreak vs Monster Hunter World: Iceborne or maybe you prefer World vs Rise, or Iceborne vs Sunbreak, regardless they all mean the same thing. I aim to answer the question of which game is better. You can buy both games here on my nexus store, and even get a free month of nitro if you do so in august. Nexus.gg/swoocer You can play both of these games on steam deck too! Afflicted Monsters otherwise known as anomaly monsters are a huge part of sunbreak, but how do they stack up to the end game of iceborne? Furthermore you've got curious crafting I'm curious as to how that'll stack up as well! (I'm so sorry)
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For me it has to be World, I'm a massive fan of ecology and biology so seeing a game feel so immersive with the environment feel so alive is incredible, the maps are made for hunting but exploring them is just as fun, catching all the endemic life, finding secrets in the map, unlocking camps etc. is just as as fun to me as the hunting itself. I do have criticisms for the game but many of them are either due to the limitations of the old engine or just personal preference, no game is perfect but World is close to perfect for me. (PS: I still love Rise/Sunbreak and other Monster Hunter Games prior to Gen 5)
well i don't enjoy most of the weapon designs to be some monster's pubic hairs sticked on bone / ore weapons.
@@Stevexupen LMAO
@@Stevexupen you problem
@@bringbackstpatties2967 I think the weapon design complain is perfectly justified. I love World but man Xenojiva have such a big potential in making the coolest weapon designs but they turn out to be...Its part slapped on the same old boring weapon skeleton ):
@@czyu3361 honestly, like the jarring difference from world to rise with the weapons really hit me, I used to think these people are over exaggerating, and then I saw how sick some of the designs for the weapons were and I was just like "damn, I see why they were mad now, I'd be mad too"
Say what you want about one or the other but what I like about Worldborne and Sunrise is that theyre both different enough so that many fans can enjoy playing both alternately. There’s many valid reasons to prefer one over the other but they’re both fantastic games that feel quite different
I actually think this is the best way to look at it. If you have the opportunity, there's no reason not to play both
Exactly.
Went back to Iceborne recently and even though overall I like it more, I appreciate the differences in both games and how you can get unique experiences that don't drain you out with too much of the same stuff.
exactly, I alternate between both every now and then
no, Rise is simply better. World is all of the old things that made the game boring even if you knew what you were doing. And Rise is slightly more exciting because they add fighting game mechanics so that you are not just min maxing the whole game
This
Man, as a first time Monster Hunter player, when I played World, it was one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had in my 20+ years of gaming. It was nothing short of brilliant. It brought happy feelings and memories every time I sat down to play. There were many moments where I played with a huge grin on my face savoring what a wonderful game it was. I was completely in love with it and still am. Rise is coming on the PS5 horizon and I'm feeling this sadness that I have to leave the World.. All those beautiful environments, monsters, feelings and the vibe. It makes me sad that I'll be leaving it but hey, Rise sounds like a great experience too. Maybe I'll return to World to finish my Iceborne Platinum, who knows. By the way, I loved the video a great deal.
give me game recommendations
I main GS. I really really love True charge slash power not for big number but the visual and audio feedback.
So damn satisfying
go in rise and land my first true charge slash power.
I'm sad ;w; all the visual and audio feedback gone.
So I switch to SnS.
still a fun MH game tho but it has to be world for me
Hope next version give the Amazing combat system of Rise, and amazing ecology of World at the same time, or even better
Well said
I will love Monster Hunter Wilds!
I feel as an immersive, pure Monster Hunter experience, World takes it, but Rise’s mechanics and combat are a breath of fresh air in comparison to the more grounded combat and environment of World. They each kind of compliment the other in a way. Purely based off of what you’re in the mood for.
Yep. I like how fast pace rise is, i m more addicted to it than rise. but I know the maps arent that good as worlds. World is more slower paced, if you need that slowdown.
this comment summarizes it for me, both are really good at what they intend to do
rise its the original experience tho
I definitely like worldborne the best, the graphics and music, the maps and endemic life, the more realistic combat and hunting, AND THE FACT THAT YOU CAN HAVE A GIANT CELESTIAL MOON JELLYFISH IN YOUR HOUSE
the hard part is catching it
adalah benar
It's still definitely worth it! I didn't even know there was a top portion in the Hoarfrost Reach that existed til' a friend told me about it.
"More realistic combat" your delusional bro 😂
"you're delusional bro" you're biased bro. What part of "bugs that shit ropes of light" or "sparks fly everywhere so much I can't see the damn thing I'm fighting" is more realistic, artistically pleasing or immersive than what the World has?
MH World's scale was amazing. It really made you feel like these were massive creatures and not just bosses. They felt powerful and emotive, kind of like the bosses of Shadow of the Colossus.
IMO, literally all Worldborne needed to essentially be perfect was more customization options for weapons (like GU) and less eventual emphasis on clutch claw. If the next mainline title basically gave weapons different styles like either GU or like SunRise gave hammer 3 stances, but largely did most other things like World, I'd be beside myself.
MH World would've gone down as one of my favorite games of all time if just a couple things were different.
*1. Every hunt should give all monster parts.* It makes no sense to not be able to harvest scales and bones during EVERY hunt. Since when are monsters suddenly devoid of these parts? Maybe certain parts like horns, but not scales/pelts/bones.
*2. Every player should have 3 carts per mission.* It doesn't make sense for a monster to get a huge buff per player, yet the whole team still be limited to 3 carts. I basically played solo for this reason even though I wanted to play with friends.
*3. It'd be nice to actually hunt/trap monsters instead of having a 30-minute gladiator duel with them.* It's the dumbest thing ever. IRL hunting deer, boar, bear doesn't mean fighting them with a longsword. It is at least possible to hunt early monsters like Great Jagras in seconds.
It's been a couple years since I touched World, but these things still bother me off the top of my head. It's basically squandered potential and it hurts to see how close to perfection a game could be. Just a few easily addressable issues really
@@EhurtAfy Dude thats just monster hunter in general. Its not squandered potential, its making creatures tens of times larger than you able to last more than a few minutes in a fight with a little man/woman poking it with sticks.
Point 3: Where's the fun in killing large monsters by the boatload in seconds? Hunters aren't gods. They are humans bordering on Captain America levels of strength.
You compare it to real life as if this isn't MONSTER hunter. We aren't hunting small boars or bears with weak skin that can die to a bullet. We're hunting monsters. These things are huge and full of meat and scales that could possibly turn back bullets and blades. Heck, if your weapon isn't sharp enough you might get your swing turned back by a part of the monster. What's essentially happing is that since the weapons of monster hunter can't just outright kill the monsters in one blow, you need to whittle them down slowly and attack weak points consistently until they die.
Point 2: If everyone got 3 carts then the game would lose a large semblance of difficulty lest they pump up the health and damage even more. This is because with the right builds and game knowledge you can avoid death from any creature while still dishing out an obscene amount of damage. If the game gave the players a total of 12 lives then even decent players would never fail difficult quests because the restrictions wouldn't be great enough.
Point 1: I can see why you think hunts should give all parts, however the way I see it its because you can't skin the whole monster yourself so the commission does it for you. And since the commission employs you, and they skin the monster, they take a large portion of the materials they get. If hunters got all of what they killed, then the commission wouldn't function properly.
Monster hunter is a game about you hunting monsters and getting stronger through refinement of your skills and making equipment. Its not an easy game, but it's a really well crafted one.
@@EhurtAfy I don’t think you quite understand Monster Hunter
@@harveyboi3917 The commission should just shower Anjanaths with ballistas, makes no sense to risk hunter's lives by fighting in close-quarters. Same problem with Call of Duty where in real life, troops operate from a secure, strategic point, but in-game everyone is running around and jumping carelessly. Campers are usually despised in these death-match style shooters.
I think it'd be more fun if Monster Hunter lived up to its name and focused more on exploration/studying a creature's habitat and crafting elaborate traps that effectively one-shot or severely cripple monsters. There are traps and hazards that do significant damage, but they are under-powered. Essentially, the game is Monster Fighter, not Monster Hunter.
The game teases a lot of amazing things, and is so close to perfection it hurts. Capcom just seems out-of-touch and could easily accelerate Monster Hunter out of the weeb zone if they wanted to
Didn't even mention how ridiculous it is to have an hour to fight a creature and only 60 seconds to harvest; biggest facepalm in the game.
@@EhurtAfy 1. I'm not sure if you've seen the dragonator or dragonrazor, but if you think that they could make something better when that seems like the best technology they can prepare, then by all means, convince me I'm wrong. CANNONS hardly scratch monsters. BALLISTAS don't do anything either except tie down the monster for a few seconds with special ammo made from rarer material. Fatalis for instance would be capable of wiping a strategic operation to bits with one nova. The game sets the limits of technology at the level of steampunk. Medieval style siege weapons have little effect. Their biggest hitters are barely capable of heavily wounding a monster of the caliber of an elder dragon. And they require massive preparation and strategy that IS enacted in the game.
2. There's a bigger thing that you are missing in Monster Hunter. Its not about modern day style of hunting, but rather a more primitive style, where physical prowess with spears and bows were the deciding factor in a hunter. Sure there were elements of stalking and set up in that style of hunting too, but it was much more difficult executing a perfect one shot hunt back then. Monster Hunter takes this primitive nature, makes it more complex and grander, and then does it that way.
3. I think that a monster hunter game that was more realistic and strategy oriented would turn away more people than it attracted. Because Monster Hunter is mostly an over the top spectacle game (especially MHW that is all about showing how outclassed you are) and most of the community are drawn towards that factor. Also saying its in the weeb zone when its made by Capcom, the people who made street fighter, the sweatiest weeb-like game, is hilarious to me. Both games are good, and the weeb factor adds to it IMO.
4. Finally, you only have 60 seconds because it is better to skin a creature while it is fresh. Its the first step of the process of beef cows right after killing it, bleeding it dry, and shocking the meat. It doesn't take long in between the steps because no one likes decayed stuff. And hunters are trained in fighting, not skinning. But sure, lets say they had the tools and experience to skin it. The body is way too heavy to move since they are so damn large, so a large surface area of the materials are impossible to skin. Furthermore, a monster with large and tough scales (though weakened by the battle), would be really hard to scavenge with the tools us modern humans have. So how long would this take? For reference, cows are usually hung by hooks and then skinned (video for citation: th-cam.com/video/6sJGNHiQwCo/w-d-xo.html) and this guy can do it in about 5 minutes or less. This is with a cow. Cows have pretty tender skin, at least compared to the monsters in this game. You might be able to do the same thing with a paolumu with hide or Great Jagras/Pukei Pukei with weak scales, albeit a bit slower. That isn't even accounting for storing the materials (where the fuck is the hunter going to put them as they haul it back to camp?) I don't think you could do that for bigger monsters, much less stuff like Barroth and Diablos which have PLATES of hard material. I would hardly call it a facepalm, its pretty satisfying to skin for a few seconds after a kill. Any longer and it gets tedious unless they add a minigame rather than the PRESS B TO CARVE option.
World felt alive to me. Endemic life and environments were amazing. I also understand that Rise was and is a switch game that got ported to PC but it just felt like some of the magic was missing, even though I liked the game. I didn't put insane hours into World, but when I played Sunrise I found myself constantly thinking of going back to World instead.
“Sunrise” lol
@@lorenzopiscosi9566 idk y but this made me chortle haha.
World is a place i visit in my dreams and want to go back to. If Rise was in my dreams i just wanna fight stuff. both good, World is better imo
Rise is nice and all, but the maps were lifeless, prob has to do with the limitations of the switch, its only strong as like a gtx 750, which is extremely weak in todays world. The switch 2, will not have those limitations tho, somthing equi to like a rtx 2060.
@@thomasre9382 Literally has more locales and more varied environments than World.
I just binged a ton of comparison videos for these two games and this vid is honestly the most respectable so far. Love your approach for emphasizing the greatness of both experiences!
My only complaint with sunrise is that the pacing of the main story felt off with Sunbreak. I wish they had dispersed the new fights more evenly through the experience like they did with iceborne. That being said, I prefer sunrise over worldborne because the combat is just too addictive. I love what worldborne was able to do for the series and that it brought in tons of new players, but I consistently play sunrise more purely because the combat is more fun in my opinion.
This is why I can't wait for the next mainline installment.. imagine the immersion of worldborne with the combat diversity/enjoyment of sunrise.
Agreed the depth of combat and variety makes it a lot more fun for me aswell.
I would argue that SunRise did a lot more with the older cast than WorldBorne. In Iceborne, they completely forgot the World cast, didn't even give some of them new moves and some of Iceborne's monsters weren't good enough to stop that, looking at you Viper, Shrieking and Nightshade
While Sunbreak doesn't have a lot of new monsters in the first couple of ranks, they fill it up with new MR versions of low tier monsters, some of which get tons of new moves. In the later half more new monsters show up but don't take away from the original roster, they just spice it up.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that SunRise gets better usage of what monsters they have then what WorldBorne did.
ermm i think you misspelled. its Sunbreak not sunrise
@@LinksRoyal it's both at the same time. People call Monster Hunter World Iceborne, WorldBorne. So Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak, Sunrise
I haven't played rise/sunbreak but the aggressive playstyle is something thats been around in previous games as well. The apex monsters in mh4u required you to fight them aggressively as you were on a timer with the wystones, the frenzy virus acted the same way, rewarding you with increased damage if you were more aggressive overcame it. Even in World, you were encouraged to hunt nerg aggressively before his spikes could harden, and alatreon has a elemental threshold you have to reach in a certain time
Not... really. Cause previous games have aggressive playstyle as a part of it, but in Sunbreak it is the entire game.
What Peace Pham said. Sure, aggressive play style is a part of some monster hunter games, but in Rise it's the rule, not the exception. The fights are all pretty fast paced and quick, less methodical. It really leans in on the aggressive combat. You can just look at your map when you enter the arena, find the monster, head over, prepare by collecting endemic life and spirit birds as you ride in your palimute, find monster and do badass jump attack from palimute and start hacking away. You can finish a hunt in like 15 minutes. In World, it would take you that long to find the monster lol. It's very fast paced in everything it added.
@@peacepham7838 how is it the entire game ? it's literally only in the expansion & only a handful of monster are even on that list. if by "entire game" you mean the last 5% of the content then yes. you are right
@@gothamdarkknight3729 "nothing better represents this idea of aggression than anomaly monsters" is what was said in the video. you guys are taking things out of context an making stuff up. It has nothing to do with "fast" combat or "less methodical" he literally said anomaly monsters and the idea of timed events a.k.a. dps checks. It takes you 15 minutes to finish a hunt ? BRO it takes 15 minutes to finish a hunt in generations ultimate while playing solo in the gathering hall (and if you don't know what that means, google it). If you ain't finishing a hunt in sub 10 minutes in rise you are playing it wrong, talk about aggressiveness lmao
@@buritomaster Yea, normal hunts never took more than 15 minutes in any monster hunter game
Rise made me feel like I was playing Attack on Titan. I hope to see Rise's gameplay with World's environments in the next installment, because Rise's gameplay feels like it would mesh so well.
I like classic gameplay from older MH titles and World much better
I felt the advancements made in world and built upon for iceborn make it number one for me. It truly felt like a revival of the series. A love letter to use who have been playing since mh1 if you will. It was truly a next gen main line monster hunter in all it's glory. Sunbreak feels more like a traditional monster hunter game. Which don't get me wrong is fantastic but the immersion of world was exactly what I had been looking for in a mainline monster hunter.
World catered too much to western gamers, they forgot they are a Japanese developer, sunrise just feels and looks more like a proper Japanese monster hunter
With Worldborne; I really don't understand why they didn't incorporate the tenderizing attack into every weapon's combo. Take GS and Hammer, both are heavy weapons. Hammer gets to combo straight into its tenderzing animation after spinning bludgeon. GS on the other hand makes the clutch claw feel detacted from the actual weapon. Even despite it being sheathe heavy I felt like tenderizing was less of an addition to my moveset and more of a chore.
because tenderizing is op and that would make the greatsword ungodly levels of strong...i mean if they do im not complaining but still
@@user-dm7ui6zx2u which is a bad thing because weapons being too op just kills the difficulty
while there are weapons that feel bad (DBs, IG, and pre buff sns comes to mind), I think that while the claw itself wasn't used in GS, the slinger burst utility it gets makes the weapon way more fun than if it just got a quick claw attack
the slinger burst allows you to shoulder tackle -> sideslash -> slinger burst and continue your combo, the extra mobility is insane on multiplayer, or against monsters with many follow up attacks. having quick acess to the claw, while good, wouldn't really add anything different than doubling down on the necessity of tenderizing, it's more of a problem of it being required than anything
I get the sense that the hammer is a bit more fluid than the greatsword and they wanted to keep that slow and cumbersome feel to the gs. That said it feels way too clunky/disjointed and I wish they would have weaved it better into gs combos.
@@TheVictor126 Yeah, pre-buff DB was just awful. I’m glad I can just do one roundslash claw attack and be done with tenderizing. Also don’t need to slot in for Clutch Claw Boost either except on some really hard fights (just Modded hunts tbh), which is really nice.
You pretty much nailed it for me. SunRise is such an amazing game for people looking to actually challenge and express themselves in a fight but IceWorld does a better job at making you *feel* like a Monster Hunter-both have their respective ups and downs.
MH world Iceborne is more challenging tho LUL
@@Empty12345 iceborne is ez
@AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH my problem with sunbreak is that i always felt that the monster combat abilities and moveset didn''t improve as much as the Hunter. there is this weird imbalance between the two and it make me feel like i'm playing some arcade game closer to devil may cry than an hunting game. but even tho, rise save a lot of weapon for me. the sns is super cool, you have the return of the aerial dual sword from generation, same with valor hammer, you can play evade lance from 4U (with the seregios + moon narga talent) or bushido lance from gen, the switch axe is so broken that its unfair. with the gunlance you can do some valstrax cosplay etc. lance was always one of my main weapon and seeing it goes from a technical, timing base, evade weapon from gen 1 to 4, to a brainless ultimate counter in world really pissed me off. the perfect guard and new evade talent in rise really saved it for me. and again i hope that in next entry capcom will let us choose, beginner can play with the ultimate counter move but more advance could replace it with some guard impact or timing base counter.
the only weapon i still prefer in iceborn is the Hunting horn, feeling the weight of the weapon and the echo wave was super cool, in rise the HH feel like a dual sword sometime.
@@Empty12345 When? World is extremly easy exept for one outdated event quest (Behemoth) , and iceborne isn't that challenging exept maybe for endgame solo fights like extreme behemoth, Alatreon, Fatalis, Tempered Rajang, Shara ishvalda (that's one of my favorite fight of the serie) and especially AT Namielle, AT Velkhana that are really spongy.
And rise it's exactly the same thing, Rise is really easy exept for a few outdated event quests like Apex Rathalos and Apex Zinogre, and then sunbreak start to get challenging around MR Valstrax, scorned magnamalo, Furious rajang, Gaismagorn, violet Mizu, Risen Elder dragons and especially 6 and 7 stars anomaly monsters that are really spongy.
They were pretty similar to me in term of difficulty. Nowhere near as difficult as old school MH. But I'm still playing sunbreak cause I really love what they did with the combat, it's faster, more mobility, and more options it's extremly fun, it reminded me a little bit of what they did in GenU with the styles. Plus we'll get a few more monsters and a new elder dragons with future updates.
@@champ6436 Yeeeah I was really happy they brought the bushido guard back for the lance in sunrise. I wasn't a fan of the perfect counter either. I really like the shield bash too instead of the charge, especially when combined with twin vine and the wirebug whisperer skill.
SnS Shoryugeki is incredible too and the elemental combo is a nice addition, it adds to the versatility of the weapon, sure I would have prefer to have all the oils back, but at least we got chaos oil.
And for HH, I wasn't really a fan in rise, until sunbreak introduced the sonic bloom. And yeah with sonic bloom it really redeemed the weapon to me. You do your melodies set up your little pod, you perform at the right timing and BAM massive blue damage + stun potential.
And yeah Sunrise feel like Devil May Cry sometimes, but I love DMC so I'm not complaining.
I've not tried sunrise but I just loved hearing the amount of combos you can do with weapons. Imma have to go with World but the combat can get a little slow for my liking so imagining World with the amount of stuff you can do in Sunrise is amazing
Literally every Worldborne fans argument is "but my immersion!!!" How about you immerse yourself in a more compelling and deep movement and combat system.
You can avoid every attack by flying away. *aerial insect glaive and dual blades stare in disbelief*
Yeah, he said this and yet every monster with a projectile is designed to be able to snipe you with better than normal tracking. ALSO, if you stand on a ledge where a monster can't reach, they will either snipe you or bash the wall to knock you over multiple times until you fall back into the arena.
Yeah I could've written that part a bit better I admit lol. I was more referring to the fact that you can avoid a lot of big attacks by wirebugging away. But saying "nearly every attack in the game" was definitely a bit much
@@mhswoocer Yea I understand, I was just poking fun that insect glaive and dual blade complain.
@@EcchiOtakuTM Oh wait, that was directed at Ishaku, not you LMAO
@@mhswoocer Oh lol
Somebody give this man a fucking medal, he stated this whole experience in the best way possible! I started in the 4th gen, and while I do love world and rise, there is something about the game I started with that is different yet amazing at the same time. Each monster hunter game isn't a sequel, it's an entirely standalone game that happens to reside in the same universe as the previous one.
Dos is a sequel to mh1 tf
@@chizitaraigwe3674 Does it reside in the same village? Does it have the exact same hunter with the exact same armor? No? Then... NO.
i have been playing mh since the very first one on ps2. been putting off rise for a while now bc i was waiting for the pc release and just didn’t have time to dedicate. after watching this i’m def jumping in. subbed, great vid!
Monster hunter world is absolutely amazing. So absolutely immersive. It managed to get people, who would have never tried the series before, hooked, dare I say addicted. That’s huge. I used to rave about MH3 and 4 but World had no issue with attracting new players. It wasn’t so easy to get people to try out the series before world came out.
yes, because it's the first one after more then a decade to be released on a normal console & they actually promoted their games in the west. unlike all other titles
Is very interesting, as someone who played since monster hunter 2 back in 2007/8 I never hooked onto MHW. I hated the change, spending way too much time tracking down monster and using fancy landscapes. I'm so glad sunrise could give me the nostalgic gameplay. On the other hand, I'm sort of sad so many prefer the World experience and thinking that is how MH should be.
@@okthen515 it’s a nice change in my opinion, and honestly there’s nothing stopping them from improving on MHW and releasing a sequel (besides maybe funding) It attracted so many more players that wouldn’t have tried the game out otherwise, the newest MH game, in my opinion, is far too silly. That stupid string thing that people use to fly around the map is just nonsense. I know the monster hunter universe isn’t exactly realistic but that puts it over the top for me. MHW was the franchises step into the modern era of gaming and that’s not a bad thing at all. They should definitely make a sequel to MHW but also continue on the path they are currently on for players like you who want the nostalgic/more classic gameplay.
@@jesuschavez2260 fair point, I agree I don't like the new string thing. It has made it a bit too easy with some of the moves but that being said, this has dumbed down the game so much that my gf can actually play with me which I thought was impossible based on her competency in action video games. Another thing I hate about sunrise is the perm buffs, is silly to run around the map just to get the boost. Fingers crossed the next MH will have the best of both MHW and rise.
@@okthen515 I 100% agree brother let’s hope the next installment blows our minds, I’m very excited to get on the hunt again
Your point about the difference between the attacks of something like the Allmother and the majority of the other monsters was excellent. Through playing Rise, the most fun I've had were with endgame fights and the game turning it up to 11. They did an excellent job on designing for mastery of your weapons, knowledge of how best to move in dangerous situations, and being able to read what the mosters are doing and how to best counter them. Hope the updates can add some more fights like that.
You failed to mention that world had the best event quests in the franchise while rise had I dare say the worst. No new armor expect layar for cross overs, no new weapons except for the usj but there were copy and pasted from ice boren so no pointes there, no interaction with the cross over character. Rise is the worst when it came to event quests, hopefully they fix that in sunbreak with follower event quest. This just fells to big to be left out of the discussion of world/ice boren vs rise/sunbreak
"The Discussion"
The only people that actually have this discussion are the children too busy complaining that Rise isn't World, and having limited time event quests in Wolrd/Iceborne was fucking garbage.
@@hakageryu307 They're right. The event quests were terrible. You're the one who's acting like a child getting angry for no reason. Makes sense that you like being rewarded with stickers.
Imagine liking monster hunter because of "event quests".
@@loneaquila wow nice counter argument Einstein
I'm sorry but I don't agree. I think Behemoth (especially Extreme Behemoth) is absolutely the worst event quest in the series. Maybe it's because I honestly like to play single player but Behemoth is just an unfair mess to me
How do you even get the forward overhead slash anyway. Ive done all the switch skill missions.
Love them both but when I want to play monster hunter I pick up rise and sunbreak now I love the wire bug skills and being a swagaxe main being able to counter into full amp gage was so much damn fun.
I still prefer worldborne simply due to difficulty, I think it’s much better balanced and overall offered a better more engaging challenge. In rise if I’m struggling with anything I can still just grab good ol longsword and win first try.
What real challenge did Iceborne offer? Only Fatalis and Alatreon were a real challenge, those were the last updates. Let's wait and see what the remaining updates for Sunbreak will bring. Afflicted monsters are imo much better than tempered monsters were. Regular monsters in iceborne were not more challenging than monsters in Sunbreak.
Agree with B B
Base Iceborne wasnt that challenging. It took until Title Update 3 (big brachy) to give me a monster that I had to prepare for, and is still engaging to fight today (Safi was actually hard for me as well, but the multiplayer only nature of the siege makes it weird to compare).
Afflicted are a more engaging mechanic than tempered too, but I liked the guiding lands quite a bit too, an extra map is always nice.
@@joaoluizkfsantos8392 that’s fair to say I don’t think either title is insanely difficult however I still think the challenge posed by regular monsters and tempered monsters surpassed what we have now in Sunbreak and I also think it’s hard to argue we’re fighting on even footing. In my opinion the hunters are still really overpowered compared to the monsters and I haven’t struggled with anything really in rise expect for the demo flagships.
Sunbreak is harder than iceborne. Afflicted aurora somnacanth is harder than fatalis.
@@tongpoo8985 I disagree completely I would argue tempered ruiner nergi is significantly more difficult than anything in Sunbreak so far, I can’t say definitively yet because we have more title updates down the pipeline but currently it still feels baby easy
Imagine a game that incorporates the combat of mhr and the hunting and graphical experience of mhw
Shut up, and take my money.
No please no, I don't want a system with switch skills or wirebugs..
No wirebugs, being grounded is more immersive
But the combat of MHW is already better than that of MHR.
It has more weight, better clarity, a higher skill floor, better incorporation of environment.... the only advantage Rise has is moveset customization. Yet despite that customization, I still can't get the far superior MHW Hunting Horn back!
@@Spyger279 I agree 100%, by combat I meant the variety of customization with each weapon
MHRise is my bet. its very nostalgic. Its like Im playing MH portable 3rd again with improve gameplay and graphics. Im an old MH player. I grew up playing this game. MHRise is a masterpiece for me.
I wouldn't mind at all another set of huge maps, each with different characteristics and things in the environment that can help you/screw you over during a hunt. However, to help you with that I'd suggest them to add a new polished version of palamutes, a buddy you can control to traverse the map, as the tailraider safari took too long to get you to the monster's location.
The main reason I like sunrise more is just the combat feels more customizable and more unique and I love the wirebugs. I also like the weapons more as they have more unique designs and personality and feel like they are actually made from the monster instead of just bits added to a pre existing model. AND WHAT THEY DID TO NORMAL BRACHY’S WEAPONS IN WORLD WHEN THEY HAVE ALREADY EXISTING MODELS IN PREVIOUS GAMES I CANT FORGIVE!
BASED BRACHY LOVER
*HUG*
GUILDMARM BLESS U
What World did to the weapon designs should never be done again.
@@TornaitSuperBird lies! Do you realize the pain and suffering I felt when I saw the Rise HBG for Zinogre? It became a damn crossbow thing. Iceborne Zinogre HBG is a Railgun with all the electrical sparks between the natural that made it so good looking and then they neutered it!
I think the perfect MH game would be one that incorporates the ecology and biology of World and Iceborn (that is, the interactable and highly dynamic environment) with the combat and overall gameplay of Rise and Sunbreak (switch skills, switch skill swap, palamutes, maybe wirebugs). No wyvern riding though, except in special circumstances. What the circumstances are, I don't know. The point is, combine the best aspects of both games and you have something that may be a nigh perfect videogame.
P.S. Underwater combat.
Wirebugs, wyvern riding, and spiribirds need to go. I do enjoy the customizability of Rise's combat, but they definitely need to slow down the hunter and the monsters in my opinion. Not every weapon needs a counter.
Palamutes I like the concept of, but there is little reason to choose them over Palicos.
@Ask Me If I Care I couldn't agree more plus it makes the battles insanely fast before the monster battles were like 35 minutes or more that's why they give you like a 60 timeframe but in rise it's like here take 60 minutes and you kill it on 15 with adequate gear not even fully geared with upgrades and talismans and sht that would be like 7 minutes
Fuck no. Leave rise combat in rise
@@askmeificare5557 Sorry but you're crazy, wirebugs are the best addition to the franchise, I have been playing since the ps2 titles and the combat has never been as good as Rise.
@@miguelarbelaez906 The combat has never been as bad as it is in Rise. There is nothing rewarding about wirebug spamming and not being punished for your actions with the addition of switch skill swapping I frames, wire fall I frames, and silkbind I frames and counters. Positioning mattered in the past games, as it does in Soulslike games. What you want is not Monster Hunter. What you want is reactionary goop like most hack and slash games. There is nothing deliberate about the combat in Rise.
Ugh that last comment got me in the feels. Love these games. Fantastic video!
For me it was the social aspect of World that got me into the game. Rise definitely felt it's own thing and a solid game but it felt isolated and boring. I recall when me an the other 3 players were basically trying to coordinate our attacks as part of the hunt, especially in the Guiding Lands to see how many monsters we could capture in a short amount of time.... Rise never got me there and I tried to like it... it just wasn't there.
MHSunbreak added back the customisation I loved about GU and was disppointed when playing World. The Immersion world gave me was nice, but with many triple A games it wears off on me after not long.
Sunbreak does a lot of amazing things to Rise and MH overall, and with every title update we're seeing more interesting mechanics. As you say nothing perfect, things such as how much you can heal is abit too much I think if they reduced it, that'd be amazing.
Also great video.
i mean im kinda scared by the fact we can heal because capcom is noticing that and finding counters to it so im scared this is gona turn into guts from frontier
@@diveblock2058 I mean the frontier team did help make SunRise, and Guts is actually a skill in the game now… so I wouldn’t be surprised if the rest of the title updates started turning into frontier level difficulty
@@thelostician all im going to say is last time they gave us protection of 3 worlds it was not a fun day
Rise looks like an mmo game with too much stuff on the screen, and those damage numbers, ugh..
Both are near perfect games, with (in my opinion) neither being a true improvement over the other, rather feeling more like choosing the one to spend your time in is based on which few-but-glaring annoyances you the individual has an easier time dealing with.
I love World, it felt so alive, I could spend multiple weeks engrossed in the game without ever realizing why I enjoy it. I love the concept of Rise's combat but I couldn't feel the game as well as World did. I personally want the next monster hunter game to have the same feeling World had given me as a person who reentered the franchise, while having the combination of skills and combat Rise had (I do know that Rise's combat mixed with world might kill the feeling, but I only want the ability to have my own attack skillset catered to my play style.). I really hope the next entry can get the right mix of both games.
Such a pleasure to hear someone who loves MH as much as I do. Haven't played Sunbreak yet, but I get what you're telling, they're both different experiences. Mega like as a SA main!
Pre-Sunbreak, I’d have told you Rise pales in comparison to World. Now that SB has fleshed it out, I really can’t pick one over the other. Sunbreak’s combat is so immensely satisfying, but World has basically everything else. It really does make me happy to see Monster Hunter thriving like this. I hope the ingenuity and momentum continue.
Monster hunter rising world: Sunborne (?)
If by some stroke of genius the devs manage to combine the best of both expansions in the next game...that'd be just amazing
Just wait for mhw2, sunbreak rise it a testing ground for next mh game mhw2 it on the plan
@@neartlawt3320 there won't be any MHW2... just a brand new MH game on PS4 / PC / Xbox, probably, but World is done.
@@magnabueno5360 yea world is done but they are definitely gonna make another game like world the success was crazy prob won't be called world 2 but the scale will be prob be the same or bigger
I prefer the buildcraft and playstyle variety of Rise/SB, but the immersion and detail in World is nice. Ideally we get the best of both worlds in the next MH. Fingers crossed!
Love when a video perfectly encapsulates my views on both games. For me personally I've had a lot more fun playing rise but it also feels more hollow. When I first beat Fatalis in worldbourne I got this wild feeling of accomplishment that I've yet to find anywhere in Rise. At the end of the day both are incredible titles and happy Capcom has taken such different directions with both of them :)
What a nice way to put it. Love that ending statement
I think each game has its own pros and cons and is best at what it wants to deliver. However I love rise/sunbreak so much more. It’s honestly everything I’ve wanted in the monster hunter series since mhfu. To the point hunting/crafting, nice endgame loop, and such diverse builds/skills. Perfection to me. Awesome video 👍
Have fun with anime hunter.
@Maityist I did, thank you
anime rules
@Daniel Segura it sure does 🤘
@@Maityist are you salty?
Sunbreak's maps are more akin to old gen titles where you can beeline the monsters. Pretty straight forward without the exploring fluff. Combat wise I feel is unbalanced. Monsters themselves are not 'easy' per se its more due to the fact Risebreak gives players way too much advantages with utilities that trivialize monsters e.g. faster mobility, wirefall recovery, silkbinds, switch skills, monster riding, laternbugs etc. Sunbreak added more advantages which were not necessary such as the element bugs on walls to ram the monsters for additional damage. As for the better game both have their pros and cons. As for more fun I would have to go with Risebreak despite the balance issues. Off topic I loved underwater combat and it needs to return.
Your off topic is the best topic! 🤧
Advice please guys. Never played one, always played smaller indies because I hate the AAA industry. However I love grindy games like warframe and Path Of Exile and have had my eye MH for while. Upgrading to a decent graphics card this week, so where should I start with MH? I also run many older games on emulation so I'm asking about all of them. should I dip my toe in by emulating an older PSP entry first, or 3ds / switch? or start with one of the newer pc ones?
This is coming from someone who only finished the gen 5 games and just got to high rank in gen u but i would say start by playing one of the 3ds games first since most of the mechanics in those games are in the pc ones. If you’re planing to play generations, play the switch version. For the pc games i would say play world first, even tho i like rise more. World is just a better experience
Great video, definitely appreciate both!! I was stand-offish towards rise but then i played it and fell in love!!
I’ve found myself thinking about how they will handle combat in MH6 and as far as I see it there are 2 options; keep switch skills or change combat for each weapon like they did for world. As a great sword main I can’t imagine not having all the basic combo choices that I have in Rise. If they keep true charge, would they just get rid of rage slash?
I personally think the best way to go about it, if they wanna keep the more grounded style, is to keep switch skills for every weapon, just remove wirebugs. That way you've still got all the customization, without any of the over the top stuff.
They'll keep the grounded combat, they reserved anime movement in portable MH.
@@Benri05 Yeah you got a point. Though I would see them probably be "inspired" by some moves, since when World came out styles and arts and were gone, but some of the weapons got new moves inspired from the arts and styles like Longsword being able to counter and Insect Glaive being more Aerial.
Iceborne if you want to "Hunt" monsters, Sunbreak if you want to "Fight" monsters, Both are different and achieve different goals. I am a severe Iceborne fanboy, But i cannot help but admit that Sunbreak has obviously more amazing Combat. It just fills me up with excitement to think about what Capcom will bring us in the next Mainline Monster Hunter game, What all amazing Combat and Gameplay mechanics await us.
Good thing its called Monster Hunter and not Monster Fighter
@@carcas3d just imagine... super monster fighter ultra v2024.
My first MH as freedom unite and love world but seeing rise then gave me some serious nostalgia, now I've got to play it.
@6:45, "How SUNRISE stands out" eeeehh.... close enough! HAHAHA.. awesome video btw! i like how accurately you described each game uniqueness so well making it both great games; which they are!
Monster Hunter World was my game during the pandemic. Feels like it just happened yesterday but it was two years ago. Time flies so fast. I enjoyed MHW and Iceborne a lot.
Rise was originally meant for a portable console. It's supposed to be fast, and hassle free. Why bring a console outside if not to play quick fun games.
World was made for consoles and PCs, most people have plenty of time to admire the world they are in. Why play on high graphics if not to admire the beauty.
And these 2 games successfully did their job.
This comment deserves more likes
earned my subscription with that ending.
World was a little to grindy, rise lets you actually craft decorations which is nice. Rise is probably the better game mechanically but world is the prettier game
MH World Iceborne will always have a special place in my heart with it being my first Monster Hunter Game (and currently one of my most played games especially during the pandemic). But Rise Sunbreak's combat gameplay is the most fun I've had in an action RPG. I only wish in the next instalment, they're able to combine the environment and immersion of World Iceborne, and the combat gameplay of Rise (and of course the Palamute).
What I would really love to know: are the maps of Rise/Sunbreak really smaller then the World/Iceborne maps. They feel smaller, that I will admit right away, but if I would spend the time to just run from the base camp to the other side of the map, lets say from the starting camp on the Shrine Ruins to the wyvern nest, I think I would need at least as much time as I would need in World to traverse a map. Many people forget, that the Rise hunter has way more movement options: wirebugs, the palamute of course and those shining wirebugs, that can fling you over half the map. Without them the maps would feel way bigger then the world maps imo.
world maps have more layers than rise maps, don't forget that
@@elliotz2434 Ancient Forest: yes. The rest not nearly. Also Ancient Forest sucks m
@@TgfkaTrichter rest of the maps still have at least 2 layers with mostly comparable areas, where in rise you get caves and tunnels
@@TgfkaTrichter Yes Ancient forest sucks. I hate it. It's well design and I would have loved it in a Souls game, but it doesn't fit the MH formula. I'm trying to farm blue rathalos not open shortcuts.
I went back to World recently and just couldn't get into it like I used to. I much prefer the ecology and of course the graphics in World, but I miss the wirebugs. I can do without wirebugs in combat, but moving around is soooo boring most of the time in World. The last couple years I've found myself NEEDING smooth, interesting movement mechanics to have any amount of fun in action games.
World is much more considered, slower paced and more engrossing.
Rise is arcadey where you feel like an anime character flying though the sky lol.
Both are incredible but for me World is my jam.
@@fionnmaccuill415 definitely going back to World in a year when Wilds is closer to release!
@@daizbid I’ve gone back but on PC this time. It’s still as good as ever.
@@fionnmaccuill415world just gets boring for long time fans as we don’t like using the same weapons with the same moves for decades at a time. It’s refreshing to make the combat more complex from time to time. A lot of newer world players especially the recent boom to the player base haven’t had to suffer through this yet. The immersion is fine but the story is often so irrelevant not to mention loading screens and hubs that it’s a stretch for a lot of players to begin with. Ultimately I’ve sunk tons of hours into both and will continue for every new game. I just hope they make Wilds refreshing and have another phenomenal story like they did in sunbreak as it was the second time in the series history (the other being 4U) where we didn’t completely write off the story as a whole
Wait I'm just moving from world/iceborne to rise/sunbreak. And now I get a recommended video from a channel I love. Nice 👍🙂🙂
I feel like what made worldborne better for me is the feeling of being awestruck and of adventure thanks to the highly detailed breathing environments, every monster truly felt a part of their respective habitats.
Dont get me wrong, I love sunrise almost equally as much, but what made world for me was definitely the many many moments of having my breath taken away by how immersive it was.
Probably my most mind blowing moments in gaming came from that game.
Yes Iceborne was more focused on the ecology, but they also ruined that for me with letting Banbaro roam in every map lol
Kinda the same for me. I love the visuals of Worldborne and honestly i love the tempo of fights. WorldBorne feels more akin to Elden Ring than SunRise ever has. In WorldBorne you have to prep, track, weaken parts, wall bang, damage and then use enviroment/traps to go in for the kill. In sunrise its just grab birb and hit monster....WorldBorne really pushes players to make full use of inventory items. If you wanted to be a good player you always brought bombs, traps, flash/sonic/sleep, and dung bombs for the occasional pesky pickle. Dung bombs have almost no play in SunRise and the rest of it feels more optinal than mandatory. The utility of items just didn't scale in SunRise and Afflicted quests are just a slug fest. I am still going to play SunRise until they stop updating it because its still a good game but i just don't get the same feeling for it as I do WorldBorne. There is just no strategy or planning outside of the attacks.
@@MrNidhog You can pretty much go through just about everything in Worldborne with no particular strategy or planning ahead either, you can pretty much wing it for any fight outside of the Sieges, Collab Bosses and Black Dragons.
@@camil3545 This is literally how i have played SunRise with no exceptions past MR100. WorldBorne had Nergigante and Behemoth as big hurdles pre Iceborn. Base Rise never gave any real fight. In WorldBorne the best strategies to finish fights quickly always involved traps/enviroment/sleep bomb. In SunRise its just hit monster hard because traps/enviroment are a waste of time.
@@MrNidhog I never said SunRise wasn't easy, just that you are greatly overvaluing the need of those things in WB.
If you are competent at the game and have kept up your gear upgrades, you can take on everything below the absolute end-game fights (and those are only really issues because they have 1hko mechanics you need to know how to survive) with just you basic kit (weapon + slinger/claw) without any special planning or strategy, thats how i went through both WB and SR, just dooting on monsters with a basic inventory loadout (hp pots, stamina meats, tranqs/traps and Atk/Def charms).
You can choose to use utility item if you want to optimize your play further but they are far from necessary, just bonuses for an easier time.
World means a lot to me, I started with 3u and my image of the game is what world is to me now, but sunbreak is what I love about spectacle battles and cool fights and the locales , well not being as grand scaled as world is still really good the citadel being one of my favorite maps in monster hunter, but I would have to go with rise simply because portable monster hunter is far more nostalgic and fun to me.
Thank You!
I get that it's Monster HUNTER.
But when everybody is haveing fun fighting. How is that bad?
I mean I dont want to be a Monster Victim :DD.
So. A game with gameplay of Rise, without flying and the World of MHW would be perfect.
Rise had amazing combat, so much so that even after replaying Worldborne again recently, my preferred game overall out of the two, I still kind of missed the combat in Rise. If they made a MHW 2 or another console game with World’s hunting and exploration philosophy but added in Rise’s combat fluidity and customization, it would be nearly absolutely perfect
World-bourne is my favorite due to combat and how fluid it was. I despised the clutch claw but I’m really not a fan of what they did to lance and sns in rise or of silk bind attacks. Which is funny because I actually liked Hunter arts in mhgen.
One thing I do really like is how they handled armor skills in sunbreak. There are some really unique skill combinations and I find myself not just doing crit eye and crit boost.
I just wish they let you get charms as quest rewards so you could passively have maybe 1 or 2 decent ones after the story, instead of you have dog crap or nothing and now you have to actively engage in the melding system. Still like charm rng more than deco rng tho.
Really? I don't really understand... SnS has Metsu Shoryugeki and the jumping shield bash, and lance has cross-Slash and a perfect parry. For me it's so much more interesting that spamming Prush with SnS, and parrying and countering with lance feel much better than just blocking attacks and poking.
@@sludgewave4786 for me personally, shield bash was strong, but it’s boring literally just spamming it. And while the silk bind attacks are powerful, I personally would prefer a weapon has a well balanced flowing list of attacks and combos as opposed to 1 special attack that does most of your damage.
Take lance in iceborne. It’s attacks didn’t do much damage on their own. But they all had very low commitment. Now In sunbreak, it’s best attacks have VERY high commitment and legit it feels like you have input lag the entire time your playing the weapon. You constantly are thinking ahead of what the monster is going to do. Which can be nice and takes skill, but that’s not what lance is about. It’s about second to second in the moment reacting and trading with the monster instead of having 1 move do 700 damage (perfect guard)
Sunbreak is awesome and I’m loving it, but the weapons all feel like they have a lot of input lag.
I pretty much agree all around. I think World is the "Better Game" but when it comes to the fun factor, I enjoy "The Combat" more in Rise. To be Frank, I have have only returned to World once since Sunbreak. Rise satisfies my itch.
Idk but as long as im having fun i dont care which one i use.
Don’t know how you make the case that clutch claw is the more abrasive addition for feeling like you need to use it, then say you really like wirebugs despite it being the same situation. You will do less damage if you opt out of either, yet one is really good and one is a hindrance?
For me its Sunbreak > Iceborne for these reasons: Better weapon and armour designs, all the monsters feel great to fight (especially the three lords), its portable meaning i can sink more time into it and i prefer how the combat feels.
Weapons, yes. Armors, meh.
We used to have 2-3 armorsets per monster and now we're down to 1 armorset.
@@Benri05 you misread what they said, armor designs, not armor quantity. It’s a quality over quantity kind of deal.
@@thelostician eh, we lost variety in builds then a major hit for fashion hunters moreso with how Rise is handling layered armors as paid dlc.
@@Benri05 You can’t be serious, wasn’t every build in world 4 piece fatalis with 1 piece frostfang Barioth, or am I misremembering something. As for layered armor, DLC layered is fine, especially because you won’t necessarily need any of those pieces to make great layered armor. In fact, DLC layered is way better than DLC room statues.
@@Benri05 You can’t be serious, wasn’t every build in world 4 piece fatalis with 1 piece frostfang Barioth, or am I misremembering something. As for layered armor, DLC layered is fine, especially because you won’t necessarily need any of those pieces to make great layered armor. In fact, DLC layered is way better than DLC room statues.
I think both games are honestly one of the best games I've played period, and I do like aspects of both, but I prefer Sunbreak for the most important thing, gameplay. Honestly looking forward to Sunbreak's future title updates and the next MH game
The only part I didn't like about Sunbreak was the start was really slow as you don't fight a lot of new things like in Iceborne for a bit
Rise's combat with switch skills and freedom of movement is soooo good. I really hope we'll have those as a staple in Monster Hunter from gen 6 onward.
@@chocomilo1628 just make the monsters more op then
@@chocomilo1628 Yes that's what I play a game called Monster Hunter for. So I can feel like the prey the majority of my play through.
@@thehorse5307 Sounds like you're scared of a challenge. Trash.
it wont happen and I'm happy about it, maybe the game that comes after mh6 has all you want, but mh6 has more chances to be MHworld but bigger
imo all of that stuff should be put in some sort of spinoff series
Guys in ps4 if i buy mhw iceborn i get the full game too right ? I dont have to buy monster hunter world then buy iceborn i can just buy monster hunter world iceborn and get the extention and the full game right right ???
Both games good, Sunbreak is the best imo
I think it's important to have both when the portable team arguably makes the most money with where the trajectory of the video game market is going at the moment (portable systems sell really well). But at the same time console/PC centered Monster Hunters like World/Iceborne are far more ambitious on a technical/conceptual level - the devs ever since Tri arguably have been trying to gain mainstream success, but it wasn't until they broke out of their mold enough that it happened with World; my parents and brother actually knew what Monster Hunter was then when previously it wouldn't have even been a blip on their radar of what gaming is. There is a time and place for overwhelming, risky projects (World). And there is a time for safe, yet fun investments that give you the time and space to be creative for the former (Rise). It kind of reminds me of the experiments you might read in a research paper about the effects of giving financial rewards for faster completion of tasks. The quality of the outcome always tend to favor projects of relatively little cognitive skill. That's not to say that Rise was an easy game to make in all of it's facets, almost everything exists on a spectrum but you have to admit that after making so many games with a monster model they aren't going to waste their time redoing by scratch rather than adjusting some values or certain key textures like fur. I'd assume the wire-bug and everything that came with that addition garnered the most development time. World felt like a complete overhaul of the sensibilities of prior games, for good or ill. And for the most part it succeeded enough because it had those incremental steps of evolution (MHTri and MH4) and even some periods of deep reflection (The Generation games were literally described as celebratory by the devs in an interview, sometimes you need that to understand where your heading and maybe even to let off some pressure about said future).
One revolution that we need to thank World is integrated map area, the first time from all MH. The rumor said Rise's development basicly halted to revamp the map integrated like MHW, since the original concept map of Rise was separated area like old MH.
I feel like this is giving world too much credit , the riskiest part was it existing because how expensive it was to make.... a lot of the good things it did were an expansion of things the main series was already doing and all the radical changes it made were for the dake of making it more casual so there was no risk involved in that
and the last part is just wrong lol ,the guys reflecting on generations were of the portable team so said reflection shouldnt affect world
@@Z50nemesis I think the inherent risk was alienating the people who came before who were used to the harder punishing mechanics (being locked in place to heal, not having clearer tells of which parts of the monster actually had good hitzones, some attacks having disjointed hitboxes etc). More people who play games in general are casual yes, but there was no garuante they would have received a wider audience when so many other games already cater to that demographic. It's also a really grindy game where you either love or hate the core loop - its why even some of my friends who are way more hardcore in their hobbies didn't stick around after world or even started it to begin with.
This actually makes me want to play Rise/DLC. The retro vibe was weird for me but I'll redownload it after all those comments. Yes, World was my first Monster Hunter game so that explains it. Also the wirebugs was new and different which was very interesting to say.
This is my first time playing and I double dipped and bought these two almost at the same time. Rise for the Switch and World for PC. No regrets. I like both
I wish they would remaster Monster Hunter Freedom Unite. Personal favorite of the series. When Capcom released the game on IOS I actually bought a controller to play with my friends back home. Too bad they discontinued it. Wish they would rerelease it on PC, then I may actually get a steam deck to play it
i like both but world just feels more immersive and beautiful
im not sure how to put this. other MH feels like you are the hero in their world. But MHW feels like you are just part of their world and thats what makes it so amazing.
I have feeling that they did two very seperated experience for these two to merge them later into one singular masterpiece of gaming
Before watching the video I'm just gonna say for me personally I put the two games at about equal. They both have positives and negatives. I would rate Sunbreak slightly higher just because I had more fun with the game as well as the weapons and armor looking better, especially compared to base World.
Man you made me almost cry, I agree on 99% of what you said. To me both games are awesome and each one has his own incredible stuff while lacking a little on other parts
lol, I'm really glad I was able to illicit such a response! And yeah both of these games really are special, neither of them are perfect, but they're both great!
Ngl, just hearing you also think the swax is the best weapon ever made was enough reason to subscribe. The great videos are an extra bonus lmao
This is what i mean with good comparison... When you don't have preferences, when you don't say "this one is good and the other one sucks" but when you start with "both games are exceptional"... Good job
I haven't played Sunrise yet, but Iceborne actually made World *worse* for me because of the Clutch Claw. The new areas and monsters and all that were phenomenal, but like the video said, the Clutch Claw felt *mandatory* in order to play well. It's a really cool item and a cool idea, but not one that I want to be *forced* to use in order to not intentionally handicap myself.
Hell, I watched a video earlier today about the differences between monsters in base World and Iceborne, and monsters in the latter had 3.2x as much health as their base World counterparts. More than *triple* the health just because the Clutch Claw and its associated mechanics (like wall bangs) were added.
Biggest Problem in Sunbreak and why I prefer Iceborne?
The impact/satisfaction when hitting the Monster.
The best way to explain what I mean is the Great Sword True Charge Slash. Compare them in both games. (Screen Shake, Animation etc.)
Feel like you could have mentioned that but gj on the video ~
Thank you for explaining the difference between them!!!
if they made the next game rise of worlds and added sunbreak's exact combat to World's stunning detail along with world size, yes it would require a beefy computer and a lot of time to work on it but it would be that massive step up that monster hunter needs. the world size wouldn't be as much of an issue with palamutes and wirebugs and it would open up amazing opportunities for elevated map exploration.
Playing Rise has made me realize how much I do not miss the clutch claw and how much it negatively impacts the combat. The clutch claw was a mistake in my opinion, I used to not mind it though, but after 850 hrs in World/Iceborne and playing Rise where tenderizing is not required I realized how much better it is to not have to tenderize.
*cough*Monster riding or spirit birds or every weapon getting counters or every monster being designed with counters/wirefalling in mind so if you dont use them you feel at a huge disadvantage*cough*
@@subnighterhawk1535 Yeah I hate wyvern riding and the small monsters in Rise, but it’s still better than the clutch claw crap in Iceborne
@@grimreefer213no it isn't
Sunbreak still isn't finished. This comparison is incomplete
Do you think in the next game they make they could somehow blend the two together
I agree with your conclusion about liking Rise better but World being the better game, I’ve one sidedly played rise for so long that I was extremely biased and then hopped on world and started appreciating a lot of things I took for granted that rise lacked… I like how in rise I can hop on and put a bunch of time in by stacking up smaller quests with quicker hunts, but in World it feels more high stakes and that a lot of my hunts actually mean a bit more
as weird as the clutch claw is the magic spider man grapple feels way more mandatory in comparison. for me i think that is weirder of a choice to allow us to have that much mobility.
Why are you questioning the realism? Is it fun? Yes! Worst part of world is the tiring level of navigation
because the feel of the game is what made world great. im not saying its not fun just that its a detractor going from moves and attacks that feel like they have impact vs combat that is SFX spam anime fight.
@@Pat315
I could never quite figure out why I preferred World over Rise but I think this video nailed it. I wasn’t able to beat World at the end of the day because monkey goes hard but still easily some of the most fun I’ve had
I've been thinking about getting world and icebourne. Is it too late to start them with rise and sunbreak already being out?
If you still havent played rise has less players then world at the moment so its still good
hey i know im like, a few months late but around 10:21 when you go about talking about using the wire bugs to dodge attacks, I'm not sure if it was intentional or not but you forgot to mention that for some god awful reason the monster doing low ground attacks can hit players jumping in the air as long as they are directly below the player, doesn't matter whether its a plain wire bug jump or using aerial based attacks like helmbreaker or dual blades vault attack that sends them upwards
i should clarify that i am not talking about the golden rings you talked about
Yeah you're totally right. This video is a few months old so I can't remember if I had a reason for not talking about it or not, but I think the most likely scenario is that I just forgot lol. Thanks for pointing it out!
I agree, the switch axe is the greatest weapon ever created in any video game.
Absolute fact.
Prowler is better. Poogie > Cohoot. Fight me
@@buritomaster lucky for you I’ve barley played prowler in GU so I can’t refute that statement
I think I prefer the style of Iceborne but ultimately they're both fantastic experiences.
If you want an immersive experience : World
If you want challenges and mechanics : Rise
I personally adore the more immersive aspects of Worldborne and would love to see them in Wilds. However the flow of combat in Sunrise is downright addicting. I hope we get a specific mixture of both. Lively, fully fleshed out ecosystems like those we see in World, and weapon customization and general combat flow like we see in Rise.
It seems to me that Capcoms plan is building something that does not require total commitment and using the handheld version as a beta test to when they finally will go all out, I’m pretty sure the next game will be a fusion of world and rise, to get a bigger roster of monsters and to just shine up the graphics. I started rise 2 weeks ago, so far I still prefer world.
So worldrise sunborne when?
Your words at the end bravo my dude
If I just want to play the story mode for monster world hunter and iceborne, how long is it?
I'm 100 hours in and i still have a good amount of the DLC left to go. The amount of play time/content is honestly staggering