I watch a lot of instructional videos and I’m here to tell you, you’re doing it right. The pace and how you covered the subject was really good. So many people waste too much time on needless banter and details that aren’t pertinent. You kept me interested the whole video and i learned something. Keep it up 👍
I watched a lot of videos about rustoleum prior to using it on some metal cabinets; however, noneof them came close to being as useful as this one. With no prior experience, I was able to achieve great results utilizing the recommendations of this video and it was very easy to follow the instructions. I wish you all the best in your future videos.
Ive been hobby painting cars for 40 years. I too like to play with the rustoleum paint products. Your technique is good but I would suggest using a wider fan pattern on the gun. Narrow is good for doing door jambs and cutting in, but will kill you with tiger stripes if you ever start shooting metallics, Otherwise nice job. Good to see young guys out there making it happen !
sail235aeh hey thanks brother! I really do need wider fan pattern. But I feel like I need to open the fluid a lot more to get that wide pattern. And then I feel like there is just to much pint laying down. Some say at that point move further away. I need to experiment more next season. But yes I noticed that’s one thing I still didn’t finesse.
I'm doing my old hauling truck just for something to do this spring/summer with roller brushes and 4" brushes. My issue: I cant afford compressor for 1 . 1/2 job F150 truck/'98 Honda Civic touch ups(CYPRESS GREEN PEARL color). Christ I need direction/informatio !!! Help!!! Any references? I've paid enough already for polish, sandpaper etc. Can't turn this into a $600- $700 project....truck bought for $600!!!! HELP!!!! David Alberta
Just a tip. Hold your gun away the size of your fan. Best is 6-7" fan and 6-7" distance. Love your attitude and aspiration to succeed. Setting a great example!!!!
Thanks and I appreciate that! Trying my best to succeed. This gun has a narrow fan pattern but I know with better guns you get wider fan patterns. God bless
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Great job man. I also spray a ton of rustoleum. Two suggestions… 1- keep a hair dryer in your other hand and apply light heat while spraying. Helps with fish eyes and bubbles. 2- use a wider fan. Gets rid of the amateur stripes (tiger stripes).
Is the paint not drying in the cup and gun during the 15 min dry times? Ive seen people remove the cup and spray a little acetone through the gun to keep it from drying. Has this been an issue ? Whats the lingest time you can keep the gun loaded ?
I love the ironing board table for painting. I use ironing boards for infeed and outfeed tables for my portable table saw. They're cheap (thrift shop), collapsible, and very adjustable, and the stock doesn't roll off onto the floor like those roller jobs do.
i've painted cars boats trucks motorcycles for 50 years,i knew one of you guys would figure out or experiment with the mix,the paint job is in the mix,you have found the holy grail of painting,want you to know that,the rest is drying times and flashing times,you spent the money on the paints and thinners thats' where the learning is,and also the prep is everything,i'm telling you this cause you showed me the mixes of the rustoleum materials,i'll be using the 1to 1 in the booths and the 2 to one elsewhere,paint booths ,all of them do one thing exceptional,they rid the area of overspray and the dry the finishes quickly,all necessary for QUALITY WORK,THANKS PAINTER
It SHOULD ALWAYS be to follow the manufactures recommendations...ONLY A FOOL would do otherwise....Just saying...BUT HEY MAYBE IT GOT YOU A LOT OF VIEWS AND THAT IS ALL YOU WANTED.....BUT YOU ARE WRONG TO MESS WITH THAT!!!!!
@@BulliKid I did not even watch the video. But all automotive paints have a tech sheet that will tell everything you need to know to paint. Like 4:1:1 means 4 parts paint + 1 part hardener + 1 part reducer. So a quart of paint(32oz.)+8oz. hardener+ 8oz. reducer makes a quart and a half of sprayable paint. And you should stick to the tech sheet for the paint you are using. Simple as that. It will tell you nozzle size of paint gun like 1.4mm and the air pressure to use. I say stick to the tech sheet and not some TH-camr looking to get views.
When air is compressed it creates heat and hot air going into the tank creates moisture. If you disconnect the air line that goes into the tank and run it into anything such as a automotive a/c condenser or a roll of copper tubing that gets air flow to cool the air before it goes into the tank it will eliminate almost all water that will accumulate in the system. By doing this a water trap will stay dry and eliminate moisture contamination when painting. (This goes for any air compressor) . Ive been spraying and rolling Rustoleum enamel for 50 years but will never again buy their rattle cans its too bad they cant get those right. P.S. The different colors have different characteristics what works for one might be a bit different for another of the same brand. Happy painting (glad I dont live next door ) LOL !!!
Ive never thinned out rustolium before- straight outta can into a binks cupgun i have a hood i sprayed gloss black about 25 years ago (its 2024 now) and it still looks good- whats with the thinning and hardeners?? Is it necessary really??
Just an idea to get exact ratios for small quantities of mixing the $15 Walmart kitchen food scale measures grams or oz (28g to an oz but for easy conversions I round it to 30g and then math is easy to do in your head). The scale can measure up to 11 pounds, or about a gallon depending on the density of the paint you are weighing. The 16oz clear cups from Walmart are less than $7 per 100, and the jumbo craft stir sticks are about $3.00 for 75. You can save a lot of money instead of using the paint cups for mixing. The clear cups hold up to everything (i.e. acetone, lacquer, lacquer thinner, fiberglass resin, gelcoat, gasoline, oil base, etc). I also clean my guns with gasoline when spraying oil base paint but shoot a little acetone through them before shooting the next time, this saves a lot of money on cleaning thinners. When mixing in your hardener (6%) and/or Japan drier (3%) , it's very easy to get your ratios right on larger quantities, a different scale for smaller quantities. For very small quantities like gelcoat (1.5% catalyst) I have a 50g scale that goes to .001 grams. Anyway, love the video!!!
I always enjoy videos from the common man who learns by doing~! I just bought one of these HF Paint Guns and am trying to paint for the first time and you have helped me a lot and my first object to paint is a metal screen door so I'm not too afraid to learn on this door. As far as leaving your compressor in the direct sunlight I have always compared this to leaving my car in the direct sunlight with the motor running so I would always give it some kind of shade and even a cooling fan if getting constant use. I'm an old man and the sun has destroyed almost everything as far as running machines go. Direct sunlight is an enemy of a million items we use. Thanks for all your effort on this video and best of luck in the future~!
I appreciate the comment! Thanks for watching! Ok I will be sure to keep compressor away from the sun! Good luck on your project! What paint are you going to use? Also many videos in my playlist you may find helpful with painting. Cheers!
I bought custom paint and it said 1:1 but when I sprayed it it came out like colored water, wouldn’t cover nothing, had to sand and start over, I’m going to try 2:1 next
I will be making a custom aerosol can with butane propellent & the thinner may differ, but hope 1:1 is not too thin & drippy by the time 50% propellant is added, for a 20 psi spray cap. Thick & splattery is not desired. Experiments.
Heat will increase humidity so in general it's better to keep the compressor inside to lower water content in the air. Sometimes the heat in the air can be useful though if you need the product to kick off sooner.
I had a gloss black paint which I was spraying on a 1942 Chevy business coupe back in the early '90's. I was outside of my garage out back of my house. The paint looked beautiful and was so very, very smooth. I stepped back to admire my work and just then a big gnat landed right on the middle of the freshly painted dash. Like a complete idiot, I reached out and hit the critter with my finger without even thinking. A pretty natural reaction for most folk to do, but it sure did a serious number on that beautiful paint job I had done. (Face slap!). There are inherent unforeseen dangers to painting with any open door or outside, as bugs can be a real issue or a tree leaf can fall right on your work. The worse situation I ever encountered when working outside painting car parts, was when I had my Sato gun in my hand, loaded and ready to go. I had just sprayed a fender to that same old Chevy coupe when I decided to move the hood from being so close to me as I painted. When I shoved that old hood, which had been laying up against the side of my shop, it fell to the ground and a full nest of yellow jackets flew out and headed right toward me. You never say any old fart run as fast as I did, but what was worse is that I pulled the trigger on my spray gun as I ran and accidentally painted several of the pickets to the back yard fence. You never saw so much compressor hose run out as quick as mine did when I was trying to keep from being stung by those angry yellow jackets, but didn't let go of my spray gun. :-) It taught me to keep my painting in the garage and to keep that door closed. Wind, leaves, rain drops, wasps, flies, gnats are all unexpected dangers to outside painting.
Ive mixed upol 4:1 clear with Rust-Oleum and hardener. 2:2:1 and also 3:1:1. I have my some concrete in a silver/black mix and my garage door in red. It has been holding up well and has lept its gloss for a few years at this point.
Well the gun is $10 and paint will run you $30 for gallon. Barrow a compressor from a friend. Brush works too. Just don’t dilute too much. Thicker is better if you roll it
I question how you are reading your "air pressure". You should read the pressure with the trigger pulled. I would guess that you have the regulator on the compressor set at 30 psi. Your flow while spraying is dropping to near "0". When setting up your pattern, don't move the gun. Just give it a quick spert--- then "read" your pattern and set the fan accordingly. I was taught to start out with the "fan" closed and shoot a spot to check my volume. Once I have the volume set then I start opening the fan and doing quick shots.(suggestion--"How to Setup the Perfect PSI on Your spray Gun" by Paint Society
Lots of good info here, only thing I would add is that the strainer isn’t for the benefit of the paint so much as it is the benefit of your gun. The smallest contaminants can plug your gun or cause it to spit.
Your not using the cup right... The second number on your cup is for activator the third number on the cup is for reducer. You should do your mixes by ounces,
even though the gun says it has a maximum pressure rating of 20 or 25 lb you can go above that and get a little bit better finish especially with the thicker material
Hey bud. Decent job learning! As for your compressor, heat is what creates moisture...but I don’t think the sun is making it much hotter in the tank then the engine pushing the air in is. Some people have their 60-80 gallon tank in small closets to help eliminate the noise...I imaging those rooms get super hot! Even if they are vented.
Good job! I've learned a lot from this 1 video alone. I just discovered your channel. I will check out more of your videos & i am subscribing as well. ✊🏾
Thanks for doing that. Very informative. I have an old truck that I'd like to paint inexpensively, and I've been considering this method. Not sure what the answer is yet.
For future reference: Mineral spirits causes longer flash time / good for warmer weather aka 70 or higher Acetone causes faster flash time / better for cooler weather aka lower than 70 This is based on my experience of spraying rustoleum on 3 vehicles so far, one of which was done 3:1 with acetone on a 64 degree day.
I do not. Seems like way to much work and mess. I just used run off time from the stick for Rustoleum but once I figured out mixing ratios. Such as 1:1 2:1 3:1 I just use those and the run off time doesn’t matter. Run off time can differ based on the amount of fluid you are mixing up and just to many variations.
I'm preparing to paint my forklift after resurrection! And i know nothing about spraying paint unless its a rattle can job. Your explanation and clear precise filming give me hope that I can pull this project off! Thanks for the help young man!
Fan seemed very tight two passes should have done that small of a piece You could put a fan in front of the compressor if you do anything bigger and get by really need more storage also just bought a 1/2" line based on the high volume needed mentioned by another chanel
Quit using that wax remover and tack remover in between coats and spray closer like 3-4 inches. You should also sand/smooth out your primer coat better because spray paint isnt meant to fill in scratches.
Water in the compressor tank is a constant problem. When the air is compressed, it heats up causing it to lose moisture which it leaves in the tank because it condenses in the cold tank. The only way to combat this is to use a dessicant unit in the line from the compressor. Also, if you have an automatic oiler in line to keep your air toos happy you'll have to use a different line when painting.The water problem is worse on high humidity days so check your weather forcast and always drain out your tank before painting as a lot of those mystery spots can be from contaminants that were sucked into your compressor or rust in the tank. Hope this helps. Tim
I am barely learning how to spray what is the best way to adjust your gun I'm having problems adjusting my gun appreciate it if you could help me out thank you very much
There is no best way. It all dependent on What you are painting , What size it is, what paint and mixing ratio you are using. In general fan pattern mostly open and have the psi around 25-35 psi range. The fluid tip if it is open to much may spray to much paint on an area and you will get runs too. It’s ok if you fail the first few times you try to paint. ThTs how you learn. I’m still learning every time I paint.
I've used both mineral spirits (paint thinner) and acetone to thin Rustoleum. I got better results (shorter drying times) with acetone. I also got better results with a 1:1 ratio. Could have had something to do with temps. I'm in Pa. so this time of year, it's pretty cool. Great stuff though, thanks for sharing. God bless, stay well. Also, with yellow, I use the white Rustoleum primer as a primer/sealer base before spraying the yellow. And I use an enamel hardener in both the primer/sealer and the color coat. Gives me great results.
Awesome tips. I recently sprayed some outdoor furniture (also made a video ) and used japan drier and it helped speed up dry times by a lot. I never experimented with enamel hardened but I’m sure the combo works great and speeeds things up. Thanks again god bless You too
what make of hardener and is it a slow, medium or fast. I'm in Nevada and its over 80 degrees. I used a 4:1 for black gloss and I got lots of orange peel. Any ideas - thanks
Your compressor should always be in a cool area because heat will create condensation inside the tank which will travel through the air hose and into your gun and paint but all in all nice job
I am always a bit weary about spraying when the gun is very low on paint. I have had some guns which will start sputtering or spitting when this happens and it can easily ruin even the best coating you have done. I also believe that most pros have their own built in biases as to the use of mineral spirits vs acetone as a thinner for paint. In reality, if they removed their own personal biases on the matter, then they probably could not find much of a difference in either of them to have any non-pro doing a better paint job. Just my own opinion though, but that is what you wanted us to share with you. I ultimately went to a much bigger compressor for all my own paint work, so I can't really say about the temp and all of having it outside or inside. The bigger compressors were always too heavy to move about and too expensive to have outside where thieves could walk away with them. Personally, I am guessing that it really plays very little as to an effect, unless the outside weather is a real condition to contend with anyway. Hey, but just a total guess on my part.
What about using paint thinner instead of mineral spirits or acetone? The Home Depot guys steered me in that direction but they didn’t seem especially knowledgeable about mixing paints for Havlicek usage..
And since the paint doesn't have an activator use the first number for your paint in the 3 number for the reducer, that would make it even. Just trying to help, love the video
Great informative video! Maybe I missed it in the video but do you recommend using hardener with this ratio? Looking at painting a tractor soon with rustoleum paint.
@@brianstasierowski7502 use mixing ratios for pain and thinner only. And use the instructions on Japan drier. You only add a cap full I believe. It is also tinted so be careful it doesn’t change the color
@@BulliKid just be care full. I am a retired painter I am in so much pain. if I could change any thing I would wear a mask all day long. read your safty data sheets on every product
Also make sure to clean those hf guns really good. I know a guy who used one and he kept getting fish eyes when he sprayed. Come to find out that a silicone grease was used inside for the needle and seats, I guess for when they build the spray guns.
I do equipment painting. I shoot Rusto all the time, and I use Acetone. 1-1, means you're not getting that much paint on the surface. 3-1 is perfect. anything more, and it won't shot and lay down as smooth.
Yup 3-1 is able to shoot out and spray well. But I never tried 3-1 with acetone just mineral spirits since acetone will dilute more in a 3-1 then mineral spirits
In my experience with the rust oleum, a 1.2 tip in a devliss spray gun, and 3:1 mixture using acetone, about 30 static psi, and 15-20 flowing with the needle almost maxed out comes out slick as glass
Thanks for the advice I thought you had to wait a day to do the second coat. I tried that and it didn't work out. So it did the three to one ratio and applied the first coat. Waited about 15 minutes and did a second coat. It turned out really good..not bad for a diy and a temperature of upper 60s. I like the 5 seconds test when mixing . I added a splash more mineral spirits and a half part of penetrol. This helps with preventing runs and orange peel.
your paint gun is way out of adjustment! the fan should be way bigger ! you are adjusting the fluid when you should be adjusting the fan( the knob on the side) or your air hole in the cup is closed up. Warm compressor causes water in the line!
@@BulliKid get a used Devilbiss Tekna on ebay or a cheap Chinese copy of one on ebay even the copies spray good and they are only about $69.00 you will see a world of difference in that and a harbor freight gun.
@@BulliKid Rustoleum is just enamel paint. we used enamel paint on cars in the body shop in the 60s and 70s. the problem you are having with it is your gun does not atomize the paint well. A better gun will atomize it much better making it easier to paint with.
Thanks! I used another model of the purple gun. And it sprays much better. Way bigger fan too. I also got the $70 harbor freight gun but have not used it because it requires much more cfm then my compressor has.
Owlster that is a good question. I used a primer from rustoleum before with like a 3:1 and it sprayed down nice. I still sanded the primer to be sure it’s smooth so the mixing ratio for primer doesn’t have to be as good as the final topcoat.
BULLI KID Most paint stores will carry it, Sherwin Williams, Dunn Edwards, Pittsburgh Paints. It’s used for for exterior metal that may be subject to extreme weather conditions Really good gloss retention and durable. All the best to you my man ! Keep moving forward 👍 What part of the country you in Bro ?
What he's using IS a modified Alkyd paint, Rustoleum also makes a silicone Alkyd Enamel but I wouldn't recommend using it in this application. Silicone Alkyd Enamels are industrial specialty paints not automotive paints. I think I've seen them in marine applications.
Thank you so much for these videos. Your a big part of the reason I have up a 10-x20 carport in my driveway with a taped off PT Cruiser that is about to get a Rustoleum Almond paint job tomorrow. I keep coming back to your videos because of the informative way you put out the information. I'm in my mid 60s and have never ever done anything like this before.
@@BulliKid haha, i don't know which is the best choice ratio , here in Malaysia , our temperature is high than your country a tropical climate , so what your recommend for my suitable ratio mixing 😅
I would probably use acetone to dry faster in that warm climate. 2:1 is you want clarity and possibly no wet sanding. But you may run the paint. 3:1 if you just want it to lay down nice and thick and very low chance of running the paint. 🤞 goodluck!
penetrol and flowtrol are coditioners to delay drying for a more even coat. Used more for brushing and rolling to reduce paintIng marks. Maybe it would be helpful when spraying with a round/conical tip to reduce striping but that is conjecture.
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I watch a lot of instructional videos and I’m here to tell you, you’re doing it right. The pace and how you covered the subject was really good. So many people waste too much time on needless banter and details that aren’t pertinent. You kept me interested the whole video and i learned something. Keep it up 👍
Thanks brother! That’s the comment I love to see. Thanks for posting it and help me grow by subscribing!
BULLI KID Subscribed. Looking forward to seeing more from you.
I agree with Mark, I'll be checking out your other content. Thanks for the video man.
Can I or should I spray a clear coat over the rustoleum enamel paint on my motorcycle?
Mark Froats if you want max protection yes you can. Just sand the rustoleum with 600 -800 and spray clear.
Correct me if I’m wrong, rust oleum is an oil based paint, so you should also stick with oil based clear
No.
I watched a lot of videos about rustoleum prior to using it on some metal cabinets; however, noneof them came close to being as useful as this one. With no prior experience, I was able to achieve great results utilizing the recommendations of this video and it was very easy to follow the instructions. I wish you all the best in your future videos.
Thank you for the comment and I’m glad they were useful :)
Ive been hobby painting cars for 40 years. I too like to play with the rustoleum paint products. Your technique is good but I would suggest using a wider fan pattern on the gun. Narrow is good for doing door jambs and cutting in, but will kill you with tiger stripes if you ever start shooting metallics, Otherwise nice job. Good to see young guys out there making it happen !
sail235aeh hey thanks brother! I really do need wider fan pattern. But I feel like I need to open the fluid a lot more to get that wide pattern. And then I feel like there is just to much pint laying down. Some say at that point move further away. I need to experiment more next season. But yes I noticed that’s one thing I still didn’t finesse.
@@BulliKid Youre doing great ! Dont let anyone tell you any different.
I'm doing my old hauling truck just for something to do this spring/summer with roller brushes and 4" brushes.
My issue: I cant afford compressor for 1 . 1/2 job F150 truck/'98 Honda Civic touch ups(CYPRESS GREEN PEARL color).
Christ I need direction/informatio !!! Help!!! Any references?
I've paid enough already for polish, sandpaper etc. Can't turn this into a $600- $700 project....truck bought for $600!!!!
HELP!!!!
David
Alberta
Not sure I can help. Compressor is 150$ and you can you it forever.
@@BulliKidit nit my hobby ....yet
What psi should i be using with a HF gun at 3:1ratio? Thanks in advance !
Just a tip. Hold your gun away the size of your fan. Best is 6-7" fan and 6-7" distance. Love your attitude and aspiration to succeed. Setting a great example!!!!
Thanks and I appreciate that! Trying my best to succeed. This gun has a narrow fan pattern but I know with better guns you get wider fan patterns. God bless
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Great job man. I also spray a ton of rustoleum.
Two suggestions…
1- keep a hair dryer in your other hand and apply light heat while spraying. Helps with fish eyes and bubbles.
2- use a wider fan. Gets rid of the amateur stripes (tiger stripes).
How do you mix it in to a metallic? Im just learning
You have to add flake in the paint
You've got a great attitude about learning and experimenting to develop new skills, it will serve you well in life. Best of luck to you young man.
Thanks for this comment. I needed that! God bless!
Is the paint not drying in the cup and gun during the 15 min dry times? Ive seen people remove the cup and spray a little acetone through the gun to keep it from drying. Has this been an issue ? Whats the lingest time you can keep the gun loaded ?
@@jagerk9 no the oil base paint won’t dry. I’ve had it in for 2-3 hours with no issues.
I love the ironing board table for painting. I use ironing boards for infeed and outfeed tables for my portable table saw. They're cheap (thrift shop), collapsible, and very adjustable, and the stock doesn't roll off onto the floor like those roller jobs do.
Hell yea! Use what I got!
4:1:1. Paint:acetone:hardener.
Mix really well.
i've painted cars boats trucks motorcycles for 50 years,i knew one of you guys would figure out or experiment with the mix,the paint job is in the mix,you have found the holy grail of painting,want you to know that,the rest is drying times and flashing times,you spent the money on the paints and thinners thats' where the learning is,and also the prep is everything,i'm telling you this cause you showed me the mixes of the rustoleum materials,i'll be using the 1to 1 in the booths and the 2 to one elsewhere,paint booths ,all of them do one thing exceptional,they rid the area of overspray and the dry the finishes quickly,all necessary for QUALITY WORK,THANKS PAINTER
Thanks friend!! Goodluck
It SHOULD ALWAYS be to follow the manufactures recommendations...ONLY A FOOL would do otherwise....Just saying...BUT HEY MAYBE IT GOT YOU A LOT OF VIEWS AND THAT IS ALL YOU WANTED.....BUT YOU ARE WRONG TO MESS WITH THAT!!!!!
@@TemperDriven with what specifically are you talking about
@@BulliKid I did not even watch the video. But all automotive paints have a tech sheet that will tell everything you need to know to paint. Like 4:1:1 means 4 parts paint + 1 part hardener + 1 part reducer. So a quart of paint(32oz.)+8oz. hardener+ 8oz. reducer makes a quart and a half of sprayable paint. And you should stick to the tech sheet for the paint you are using. Simple as that. It will tell you nozzle size of paint gun like 1.4mm and the air pressure to use. I say stick to the tech sheet and not some TH-camr looking to get views.
@@TemperDriven there is no tech sheet for rustoleum sprayed out using A gun. It’s a cheap budget option for some.
I used a 4:1 on my rustoleum. Paint job came out fine but paint had to be forced out. Only had to do 2 coats. Will try 1:1 next time🤣
Do not use acetone or mineral spirits with enamel. Use enamel reducer such as xylol.
When air is compressed it creates heat and hot air going into the tank creates moisture. If you disconnect the air line that goes into the tank and run it into anything such as a automotive a/c condenser or a roll of copper tubing that gets air flow to cool the air before it goes into the tank it will eliminate almost all water that will accumulate in the system. By doing this a water trap will stay dry and eliminate moisture contamination when painting. (This goes for any air compressor) . Ive been spraying and rolling Rustoleum enamel for 50 years but will never again buy their rattle cans its too bad they cant get those right. P.S. The different colors have different characteristics what works for one might be a bit different for another of the same brand. Happy painting (glad I dont live next door ) LOL !!!
Fisheye. 5/2/.3 of hardener works well.
Ive never thinned out rustolium before- straight outta can into a binks cupgun i have a hood i sprayed gloss black about 25 years ago (its 2024 now) and it still looks good- whats with the thinning and hardeners?? Is it necessary really??
Just an idea to get exact ratios for small quantities of mixing the $15 Walmart kitchen food scale measures grams or oz (28g to an oz but for easy conversions I round it to 30g and then math is easy to do in your head). The scale can measure up to 11 pounds, or about a gallon depending on the density of the paint you are weighing. The 16oz clear cups from Walmart are less than $7 per 100, and the jumbo craft stir sticks are about $3.00 for 75. You can save a lot of money instead of using the paint cups for mixing. The clear cups hold up to everything (i.e. acetone, lacquer, lacquer thinner, fiberglass resin, gelcoat, gasoline, oil base, etc). I also clean my guns with gasoline when spraying oil base paint but shoot a little acetone through them before shooting the next time, this saves a lot of money on cleaning thinners.
When mixing in your hardener (6%) and/or Japan drier (3%) , it's very easy to get your ratios right on larger quantities, a different scale for smaller quantities. For very small quantities like gelcoat (1.5% catalyst) I have a 50g scale that goes to .001 grams.
Anyway, love the video!!!
Thanks for all of them Smart ideas!
I always enjoy videos from the common man who learns by doing~! I just bought one of these HF Paint Guns and am trying to paint for the first time and you have helped me a lot and my first object to paint is a metal screen door so I'm not too afraid to learn on this door. As far as leaving your compressor in the direct sunlight I have always compared this to leaving my car in the direct sunlight with the motor running so I would always give it some kind of shade and even a cooling fan if getting constant use. I'm an old man and the sun has destroyed almost everything as far as running machines go. Direct sunlight is an enemy of a million items we use. Thanks for all your effort on this video and best of luck in the future~!
I appreciate the comment! Thanks for watching! Ok I will be sure to keep compressor away from the sun! Good luck on your project! What paint are you going to use? Also many videos in my playlist you may find helpful with painting. Cheers!
I bought custom paint and it said 1:1 but when I sprayed it it came out like colored water, wouldn’t cover nothing, had to sand and start over, I’m going to try 2:1 next
I will be making a custom aerosol can with butane propellent & the thinner may differ, but hope 1:1 is not too thin & drippy by the time 50% propellant is added, for a 20 psi spray cap. Thick & splattery is not desired. Experiments.
Thanks these are really handy spray painting tips Brother
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Heat will increase humidity so in general it's better to keep the compressor inside to lower water content in the air. Sometimes the heat in the air can be useful though if you need the product to kick off sooner.
Colton McCormack thanks!
Really disappointed that you didn't show us your rivnutter tool😢. Delete if not allowed here. 🚫
You want to keep compressor cool. Think air conditioning. The cold air removes moisture.
Thanks that’s the info I needed!
There is no real ratio.......Different needle sizes and air pressure results in different thinning.
I had a gloss black paint which I was spraying on a 1942 Chevy business coupe back in the early '90's. I was outside of my garage out back of my house. The paint looked beautiful and was so very, very smooth. I stepped back to admire my work and just then a big gnat landed right on the middle of the freshly painted dash. Like a complete idiot, I reached out and hit the critter with my finger without even thinking. A pretty natural reaction for most folk to do, but it sure did a serious number on that beautiful paint job I had done. (Face slap!). There are inherent unforeseen dangers to painting with any open door or outside, as bugs can be a real issue or a tree leaf can fall right on your work. The worse situation I ever encountered when working outside painting car parts, was when I had my Sato gun in my hand, loaded and ready to go. I had just sprayed a fender to that same old Chevy coupe when I decided to move the hood from being so close to me as I painted. When I shoved that old hood, which had been laying up against the side of my shop, it fell to the ground and a full nest of yellow jackets flew out and headed right toward me. You never say any old fart run as fast as I did, but what was worse is that I pulled the trigger on my spray gun as I ran and accidentally painted several of the pickets to the back yard fence. You never saw so much compressor hose run out as quick as mine did when I was trying to keep from being stung by those angry yellow jackets, but didn't let go of my spray gun. :-) It taught me to keep my painting in the garage and to keep that door closed. Wind, leaves, rain drops, wasps, flies, gnats are all unexpected dangers to outside painting.
Amazing story! Thanks for sharing!
You didn't start at 0 sec's so subtract 1 from your totals... :)
Need a massive tank
If your painting just get one somehow
I usually use a strainer when putting the paint in the gun?
I thought everyone did??
Ive mixed upol 4:1 clear with Rust-Oleum and hardener. 2:2:1 and also 3:1:1. I have my some concrete in a silver/black mix and my garage door in red. It has been holding up well and has lept its gloss for a few years at this point.
You need a water separator. $18.00. Attaches directly to the gun. Has a bleed value.
I have the filter at the gun.
Loose that Watusi jingle on the video. Be proud of who you are!!
Im not buying a compressor nor a speay gun. Im using a rolker & 4" spng brush for old truck. Your thoughts ( i refuse to use yellow paint)!!!
What will I do with all that equipment once I'm finished with one truck and a touched up Honda?
Well the gun is $10 and paint will run you $30 for gallon. Barrow a compressor from a friend. Brush works too. Just don’t dilute too much. Thicker is better if you roll it
Be prepared for it to look like it was painted with a roller then.
Man that should be like a two pass panel
That pattern is crazy right
I question how you are reading your "air pressure". You should read the pressure with the trigger pulled. I would guess that you have the regulator on the compressor set at 30 psi. Your flow while spraying is dropping to near "0". When setting up your pattern, don't move the gun. Just give it a quick spert--- then "read" your pattern and set the fan accordingly. I was taught to start out with the "fan" closed and shoot a spot to check my volume. Once I have the volume set then I start opening the fan and doing quick shots.(suggestion--"How to Setup the Perfect PSI on Your spray Gun" by Paint Society
Thanks!!!
What I want to know is how less of the paint thinner can you get away with and still spray using rustolium. I got that Purple spray gun too LOL
Lots of good info here, only thing I would add is that the strainer isn’t for the benefit of the paint so much as it is the benefit of your gun. The smallest contaminants can plug your gun or cause it to spit.
Excellent point! Thanks.
And thanks for watching. Check out the playlist too
Your not using the cup right... The second number on your cup is for activator the third number on the cup is for reducer. You should do your mixes by ounces,
You are right. But I don’t use activator for this paint job. So I figured I would replace activator with reducer. I think it should still work well
I will look into it.
even though the gun says it has a maximum pressure rating of 20 or 25 lb you can go above that and get a little bit better finish especially with the thicker material
Will shoot with 35psi next time around.
Hey bud. Decent job learning!
As for your compressor, heat is what creates moisture...but I don’t think the sun is making it much hotter in the tank then the engine pushing the air in is. Some people have their 60-80 gallon tank in small closets to help eliminate the noise...I imaging those rooms get super hot! Even if they are vented.
Hey thanks for the reply.
I've been painting for 15 years I paint cars yachts all types of things
Hobby or career ?
@@BulliKid this is how I pay my bills
Good job! I've learned a lot from this 1 video alone. I just discovered your channel. I will check out more of your videos & i am subscribing as well. ✊🏾
Thanks brother! Welcome!
Hey, great video. I'm currently spraying this exact paint using a HVLP setup. What tip size are you using? Thanks!
These guns come with the 1.4 tip
I love your videos but like your accent best of all. Where the hell are you from? (smile)
Thanks for doing that. Very informative. I have an old truck that I'd like to paint inexpensively, and I've been considering this method. Not sure what the answer is yet.
Rustoleum is good
I thought "run off time" was from start of steady stream to stop of steady stream ? Not drips ? I'm just a amateur painter asking ? Thanks
I guess it can very that’s how I did it.
Hey ah... what tip size, the most important information is left out.
Gary Muir it’s a 1.4 tip.
dude, u r da best!! tnx so much
No problem man hope the video helped!! Thanks for the comment.
For future reference:
Mineral spirits causes longer flash time / good for warmer weather aka 70 or higher
Acetone causes faster flash time / better for cooler weather aka lower than 70
This is based on my experience of spraying rustoleum on 3 vehicles so far, one of which was done 3:1 with acetone on a 64 degree day.
Thanks!
What about using paint thinner as the solvent? Is that an appropriate substitute to acetone or mineral spirits? Thx in advance
Yes it would work well too. They all change the viscosity a little bit.
Nice vid, do you ever use the ford cup to chech the viscosity? Good luck
I do not. Seems like way to much work and mess. I just used run off time from the stick for Rustoleum but once I figured out mixing ratios. Such as 1:1 2:1 3:1 I just use those and the run off time doesn’t matter. Run off time can differ based on the amount of fluid you are mixing up and just to many variations.
Driving me crazy
Use a scale
I'm preparing to paint my forklift after resurrection! And i know nothing about spraying paint unless its a rattle can job. Your explanation and clear precise filming give me hope that I can pull this project off! Thanks for the help young man!
Welcome!! You can do it best of luck!!!
Great video !!!
Thanks!
Fan seemed very tight two passes should have done that small of a piece
You could put a fan in front of the compressor if you do anything bigger and get by really need more storage also just bought a 1/2" line based on the high volume needed mentioned by another chanel
Yea the fan is very small on this gun
Thank you for the videos. What size nozzle did you use?
Hey. It’s all from a 1.4
Quit using that wax remover and tack remover in between coats and spray closer like 3-4 inches. You should also sand/smooth out your primer coat better because spray paint isnt meant to fill in scratches.
Thanks for the tips
Water in the compressor tank is a constant problem. When the air is compressed, it heats up causing it to lose moisture which it leaves in the tank because it condenses in the cold tank. The only way to combat this is to use a dessicant unit in the line from the compressor. Also, if you have an automatic oiler in line to keep your air toos happy you'll have to use a different line when painting.The water problem is worse on high humidity days so check your weather forcast and always drain out your tank before painting as a lot of those mystery spots can be from contaminants that were sucked into your compressor or rust in the tank. Hope this helps. Tim
Thanks Tim!
Very Good!... 212 🐄🦉🏴☠✝
I don’t think you answered the question...
Val Minlikayev I did not. You are right.
@@BulliKid I'm curious to know what you find the best ratio is, looked through the videso and doesn't seem to have an update to this
I am barely learning how to spray what is the best way to adjust your gun I'm having problems adjusting my gun appreciate it if you could help me out thank you very much
There is no best way. It all dependent on What you are painting , What size it is, what paint and mixing ratio you are using. In general fan pattern mostly open and have the psi around 25-35 psi range. The fluid tip if it is open to much may spray to much paint on an area and you will get runs too. It’s ok if you fail the first few times you try to paint. ThTs how you learn. I’m still learning every time I paint.
I've used both mineral spirits (paint thinner) and acetone to thin Rustoleum. I got better results (shorter drying times) with acetone. I also got better results with a 1:1 ratio. Could have had something to do with temps. I'm in Pa. so this time of year, it's pretty cool. Great stuff though, thanks for sharing. God bless, stay well. Also, with yellow, I use the white Rustoleum primer as a primer/sealer base before spraying the yellow. And I use an enamel hardener in both the primer/sealer and the color coat. Gives me great results.
Awesome tips. I recently sprayed some outdoor furniture (also made a video ) and used japan drier and it helped speed up dry times by a lot. I never experimented with enamel hardened but I’m sure the combo works great and speeeds things up. Thanks again god bless You too
what make of hardener and is it a slow, medium or fast. I'm in Nevada and its over 80 degrees. I used a 4:1 for black gloss and I got lots of orange peel. Any ideas - thanks
Your compressor should always be in a cool area because heat will create condensation inside the tank which will travel through the air hose and into your gun and paint but all in all nice job
Thanks!
I am always a bit weary about spraying when the gun is very low on paint. I have had some guns which will start sputtering or spitting when this happens and it can easily ruin even the best coating you have done. I also believe that most pros have their own built in biases as to the use of mineral spirits vs acetone as a thinner for paint. In reality, if they removed their own personal biases on the matter, then they probably could not find much of a difference in either of them to have any non-pro doing a better paint job. Just my own opinion though, but that is what you wanted us to share with you. I ultimately went to a much bigger compressor for all my own paint work, so I can't really say about the temp and all of having it outside or inside. The bigger compressors were always too heavy to move about and too expensive to have outside where thieves could walk away with them. Personally, I am guessing that it really plays very little as to an effect, unless the outside weather is a real condition to contend with anyway. Hey, but just a total guess on my part.
Thanks! Do you paint for a hobby ?
What about using paint thinner instead of mineral spirits or acetone? The Home Depot guys steered me in that direction but they didn’t seem especially knowledgeable about mixing paints for Havlicek usage..
Hvlp*
Either one would be ok.
Keep up the good work on your present videos and your future endeavors!
You would make an outstanding teacher of any automotive trade!
Gratitude 🙏 maybe that’s my future calling
And since the paint doesn't have an activator use the first number for your paint in the 3 number for the reducer, that would make it even. Just trying to help, love the video
Cris Dilleshaw thanks
Great video. You have a new sub.
Welcome aboard!
3:1. What size is your gun needle.
1.4
Pressure too high.
how long will it take the paint to start drys in your gun ? And you did not use any hardener ?
Maybe a few hours. No hardener in the oil based paint.
Great informative video! Maybe I missed it in the video but do you recommend using hardener with this ratio? Looking at painting a tractor soon with rustoleum paint.
I only used Japan drier with oil based and it worked great.
@@BulliKidwould I use that in place of hardener in this ratio? Using the measuring cup following the numbers
@@brianstasierowski7502 use mixing ratios for pain and thinner only. And use the instructions on Japan drier. You only add a cap full I believe. It is also tinted so be careful it doesn’t change the color
I’ve heard that adding hardener helps with shine, durability, and accelerates drying. I’m going to try, thanks for video.
I have used Japan drier and it helped with dry time. I have never used a Hardner I think the Hardner would have to be oil based
@@BulliKid it’s the one for farm equipment it’s intended for enamel. But if you’re adding 2k clear over you should be good. Thanks
nerve damage and depression its on every can of paint read warning. Look around you who is on drugs who is drinking to kill the pain
What are you saying
@@BulliKid just be care full. I am a retired painter I am in so much pain. if I could change any thing I would wear a mask all day long. read your safty data sheets on every product
Well the main 2k ingredient is cyanide....
I also use a water separator at the compressor. Nice video! 👍
Thanks!
Also make sure to clean those hf guns really good. I know a guy who used one and he kept getting fish eyes when he sprayed. Come to find out that a silicone grease was used inside for the needle and seats, I guess for when they build the spray guns.
@@Dangbo3030 I noticed there is a bunch of that in this gun.
It look like a fisheye you may have a little bit of water in your lines
Jim Tyson possible. I’m just using the most basic set up.
Acetone or mineral which is better.
I would use acetone as it dries faster.
Mineral better for flow out to some degree.
I am a pure painting virgin, but I'm doing my old hauling truck. Bono rustolium etc.
Is mineral spirits paint thinner or aceton?
David Weum I used both. But acetone will dry faster.
It's more expensive in Canada
What spray tip are you using ,does it matter when change ratios?
1.4 m tip
yes the tip and ratios go hand in hand
I do equipment painting. I shoot Rusto all the time, and I use Acetone. 1-1, means you're not getting that much paint on the surface. 3-1 is perfect. anything more, and it won't shot and lay down as smooth.
Yup 3-1 is able to shoot out and spray well. But I never tried 3-1 with acetone just mineral spirits since acetone will dilute more in a 3-1 then mineral spirits
Do I need a hardener when shooting this? Or can I get away with not using it
You don’t need it.
In my experience with the rust oleum, a 1.2 tip in a devliss spray gun, and 3:1 mixture using acetone, about 30 static psi, and 15-20 flowing with the needle almost maxed out comes out slick as glass
Thanks for your experienced tip!
The gun has a lot to do with it too
Lol nice
Hi:you help me so much thanks.!!
Thanks for the comment. Glad I can help! Like the video to support the channel
When I saw your painting video headline I thought if you were painting today you must be freeze drying the paint. lol
Hahah. Yea I would def freeze. I have some old content I finally had time to edit and upload! 😬
Can I do this with enamel hardener then spray 2k clear ?
Yes but probably best to sand the first coat. I will experiment with this.
thanks very handy i want to spray my bike and tank with rusto
you can do it!
Thanks for the advice
I thought you had to wait a day to do the second coat. I tried that and it didn't work out. So it did the three to one ratio and applied the first coat. Waited about 15 minutes and did a second coat. It turned out really good..not bad for a diy and a temperature of upper 60s. I like the 5 seconds test when mixing . I added a splash more mineral spirits and a half part of penetrol. This helps with preventing runs and orange peel.
Like your show what Gardner would you use for this paint
that should be hardner
I recently tried japan drier and it worked very well
your paint gun is way out of adjustment! the fan should be way bigger ! you are adjusting the fluid when you should be adjusting the fan( the knob on the side) or your air hole in the cup is closed up. Warm compressor causes water in the line!
This gun sucks for adjustment.
@@BulliKid get a used Devilbiss Tekna on ebay or a cheap Chinese copy of one on ebay even the copies spray good and they are only about $69.00 you will see a world of difference in that and a harbor freight gun.
You are right. I’m not sure how much better it will spray Rustoleum though
@@BulliKid Rustoleum is just enamel paint. we used enamel paint on cars in the body shop in the 60s and 70s. the problem you are having with it is your gun does not atomize the paint well. A better gun will atomize it much better making it easier to paint with.
Thanks! I used another model of the purple gun. And it sprays much better. Way bigger fan too. I also got the $70 harbor freight gun but have not used it because it requires much more cfm then my compressor has.
Is it a good idea to use this mix ratio with Rustoleum latex primer?
Owlster that is a good question. I used a primer from rustoleum before with like a 3:1 and it sprayed down nice. I still sanded the primer to be sure it’s smooth so the mixing ratio for primer doesn’t have to be as good as the final topcoat.
@@BulliKid Thank you. I'll try it out.
Would you show how you clean the gun?
Jerry ignacio yes I did make a video I never posted. I can post it this week sometime.
Peeps, pass on the Rusto, and go with Silicone Alkyd Enamel
Same user friendly qualities as Rusto, but a better paint.
Peace ✌️ and ❤️
Tim Heasman where can one buy that? Thanks!
BULLI KID
Most paint stores will carry it, Sherwin Williams, Dunn Edwards, Pittsburgh Paints.
It’s used for for exterior metal that may be subject to extreme weather conditions
Really good gloss retention and durable.
All the best to you my man !
Keep moving forward 👍
What part of the country you in Bro ?
I’m in the Midwest IL.
I’m trying to move forward but at this Sarah’s just experimenting and trying to have some fun l
Tim Heasman R U SURE it’s “Silicone” ??
What he's using IS a modified Alkyd paint, Rustoleum also makes a silicone Alkyd Enamel but I wouldn't recommend using it in this application. Silicone Alkyd Enamels are industrial specialty paints not automotive paints. I think I've seen them in marine applications.
Thank you so much for these videos. Your a big part of the reason I have up a 10-x20 carport in my driveway with a taped off PT Cruiser that is about to get a Rustoleum Almond paint job tomorrow. I keep coming back to your videos because of the informative way you put out the information. I'm in my mid 60s and have never ever done anything like this before.
Thank you for the comment. I’m glD I can help with the videos. I hope the PT comes out looking good!! 🤞
Many thanks!
So if your painting a car with a big area to cover...what psi do you recommend?
Midship91 the bigger the better.
30-50 gallon min
So now what your recommend , use 3-1 or 1-1 better? I planning to painting my old car with enamel paint
Jack Shinoda it’s a tricky subject. I am working on a video to answer that question also will have 2:1 In The equation.
@@BulliKid haha, i don't know which is the best choice ratio , here in Malaysia , our temperature is high than your country a tropical climate , so what your recommend for my suitable ratio mixing 😅
Okay I will choose the 2:1 ratio , hopefully it nice with last finishing
I would probably use acetone to dry faster in that warm climate. 2:1 is you want clarity and possibly no wet sanding.
But you may run the paint.
3:1 if you just want it to lay down nice and thick and very low chance of running the paint. 🤞 goodluck!
@@BulliKid tq for your recommendation bro , i will try 2:1 ratio , here my country temperature is 32°c to 36°c Celsius
Need to get you some enamel hardener
Would def help speed up the process and reduce runs.
4 to 3 is my magic ratio
Thanks for feedback.
Have you tried adding Penetrol? Nice video
Have not added anything for cost purposes. What is Penetrol? A hardener?
penetrol and flowtrol are coditioners to delay drying for a more even coat. Used more for brushing and rolling to reduce paintIng marks. Maybe it would be helpful when spraying with a round/conical tip to reduce striping but that is conjecture.
I have a question can you mix activator with oil based paint? Will it hurt or help anything ?
Speeds up the dry process.
Great videos
Thanks!!