Garmin Epix Pro (Gen 2) Sapphire Edition 💎 Foolish to compare with Apple Watch Ultra!
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Today, I want to take you through what it’s been like using the Garmin Epix Pro Gen 2 for the last 3 months. This smartwatch is an absolute gem and there's been many things that I've enjoyed so far, and some which I think need improving. Join me in this video where I share my experience so far and put to bed the questions I've been trying to answer for ages:
Is the Garmin Epix Pro better than the Apple Watch Ultra?
Is it worth upgrading from the Garmin Epix Gen 2 to the Garmin Epix Pro?
How much better is the Heart Rate Monitor on the Epix Pro?
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0:00 | Garmin Epix Pro - Foolish to compare with anything else
0:15 | How I use the Garmin Epix Pro (Gen2) Sapphire Edition
0:30 | Disclaimer
0:43 | Making sense of my Health data - Welltory
1:05 | Limited offer of 30% - Welltory
1:27 | Forget specs for now, just chatting to my friend, you!
2:00 | Design - Comfort
2:30 | Genuine Leather strap
2:45 | Main features
3:07 | New update (April 2024) Sleep Coach
3:45 | New update (April 2024) Multisport
4:14 | Actually using it 🏃🏽♂️ Heart rate performance
4:40 | Epix Gen 2 vs Epix Pro - Heart rate 'delays'
5:18 | Does the upgraded Heart Rate sensor mean more accurate readings?
5:46 | Detecting heart rate changes - But do you care?
6:15 | Heart rate monitor cost - a valid consideration...
6:35 | What is your reason to choose the Epix Pro over the Epix 'standard' (Gen 2)?
6:50 | Flashlight 🔦
7:10 | Swimming with the Epix Pro 🏊🏼
7:25 | OK to shower with it on (leather strap)?
7:39 | AMOLED Touchscreen Display
8:00 | Great user experience, even without the display
8:30 | In God we trust. Everyone else? Bring data! Garmin Connect app
9:00 | Garmin Connect website dashboards
9:30 | Data Quality
9:55 | Battery Performance 🔋 Can't get much better than this!
10:20 | Such a nice quality of life feature
10:39 | What is your tolerance towards battery?
11:00 | How does the battery compare against the Epix 'Standard' (Gen 2)?
11:35 | What Garmin needs to improve on - Software update experience
12:30 | How this could be a much smoother experience - Bluetooth earbuds
13:00 | A fantastic option from a durability perspective
13:28 | GPS Accuracy
13:40 | Great to see more innovation from Garmin
13:52 | Better Insights or Better User Interface? 🤔
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I have had the Garmin Epix Pro 2 for about nine months and it has been great. One issue in the last few weeks though was it all of a sudden started to show the elevation (at home when changing/updating in the early AM as about 30 feet less than before). A "hard power off" with the light button, and then a manual elevation calibration has seemed to fix it. Otherwise an amazing watch. (Used for hiking, fishing, and golfing.) Great review! Thank you
Great content, as always. Thanks, Alex! Congrats also on the 100k subscribers! Well deserved! I originally bought a Garmin Fenix 5X back in 2019. I upgraded to a Garmin Fenix 6X Pro Solar last year (great clearance deal from Garmin - otherwise I would have gone with the 7X Pro Solar). I bought my wife a Garmin 6 Solar (coming from Fitbit) last year also. We're both enjoying our Garmin watches!
Thank you for the kind words! I might look into that clearance deal myself! Already returned this bad boy, but now I want one for myself! Now reviewing the Fenix 7x Pro solar. What a beast too!
I have moved from Apple Watch Ultra to the Epix Gen 2 because I like having more fitness data and am willing to give up on having a better smartwatch experience. I like having all the data in one place with Garmin instead of having to download 5 apps and subscribe in order to get the same functionality to track my fitness on Apple Watch. Loving the battery life, I get about 5 days with everything on at the highest settings and workout every day, but that's way better than a day on AWU.
For fitness data this is superb, really! Agree on the extra apps and subscriptions. I had that with my Apple Watch for sleep tracking. Now saving a few quid a month 😅 Yeah, that battery life alone is unbeabtable!
Just purchased the epix pro and switching from the AWU. How are you liking it so far?
One day Ultra? Mine hold 3 or even 4 days. My Epix (non Pro) was only 4-5 days and thats without cellular. Battery was not that good on my 47mm Epix
I finally pulled the trigger on an Epix Pro Gen 2 51 mm, and it's absolutely fantastic for me. The screen is vivid and bright in direct sunlight, it tracks my sleep correctly, it has GPS time sync which for me is important, the watch faces available in the store are amazing and the battery life is really unbeatable. It looks awesome on my wrist and is lightweight. I can't think of something I don't like about it! I wish I had bought it much sooner!
Nailed it, that's exactly how I feel too. So good!
how do you know, if it tracks yout sleep correctly?😉
Does it have an Always On Display?
My wrist is 180 think the 51 will be too big
@@tolitsasoYes but you get about 7 days instead of 14 days.
I'm on my third upgrade in the Garmin watches. Started with an Instinct, then a Venu 2, and now Fenix 6X Pro Solar. I've always had Android Phones so no Apple Watches, but tried 4 or 5 other brands over the years. I was always dissapointed in the battery life in all of them. Then I bought the Instinct and boom a weeks worth of battery!! The Venu 2 was about the same but had a much nicer full color screen. I cracked the screen doing lawnmower maintenance, it still works but I worry about it being watertight. When the Fenix 6X went on sale near my Birthday I spoiled myself. Wow 21 days of Battery Life!! I love this watch!! I wish they weren't so crazy expensive, but so is Apple's Ultra. I agree with you on the interface and wish all the interaction was with the App. I have loved Garmin's handheld GPS units and they were always fairly intuitive, they don't want to let fully integrate the App so you have to go to the "Desktop" and version.
Thanks man. Awesome content Looking forward for the Fenix review.
Thank you so much !!
For my fenix 7 pro I had the same description saying that I needed to update the software using a computer, but I just went to the settings in the watch and clicked "check for updates" and then it updated itself over wifi and then I could install spotify no computer needed and took about 10 minutes.
Super vidéo, comme d’habitude.
Merci!
Merci Jean-Francois!! Bonne weekend!
Congrats for 100k suba...
Thanks man, it's been a ride 😅
How do you get Garmin to send devices to you to review?
I recently bought the Marq, bit of a luxury purchase but hey! its awesome, I'm a total convert, my AWU has been demoted to a drawer somewhere, and that battery life...!!!!
Really like that one too, hoping to try that soon. And yes, the AWU gets some use still but mostly when I am reviewing other watches 😅 Think I will sell it now
@@AlexGTech if you promise to be super careful with it I'll send you my Marq for a week or 2 for testing
Wow! That's very kind Paul! I have a few reviews on the way but will definitely hit you up if the opportunity presents itself! 🙌🏼
I replaced a AWU2 with a Garmin Tactix Delta that I bought on a steep discount from a jeweller that was going out of business. Even this 2019 based Garmin blows away the AWU2 in so many areas that it's hard to believe.
Software updates can be done on the watch as long as you are connected to WiFi. Settings>system>software update.
Beautiful looking watch Alex. I do like that sapphire crystal. Having used Garmin equipment in aviation for years it doesn't surprise me their data is top-notch especially when it comes to GPS and fitness tracking. This display seems nice and bright and clear. Have a great weekend Alex 👊🙏
Totally agree Don, they really seem to make the most of their GPS infrastructure. Superb device, shame I had to send it back to them but now I am hooked 😂
I am a Garmin lover from 2017 and I think I will never go back. I briefly had my eyes on the Pixel Watch but nah. I had the Vivoactive 3 for 6 years and last November, I jumped to the Venu 3. I would definitely buy the higher FR series or the Epix Pro series in the future (its an expensive watch for a student). Great video, nice review and spot on :)
thank you! yes, these are definitely quite expensive - I do like the look of the forerunners though, might try that next time
@@AlexGTech Great :) The only downside of Garmin is, they have way too many models and FR265 and Venu 3 are identically priced but with vastly different features. I sincerely hope Garmin consolidates its lineup in the upcoming years. The FR165, which is cheaper than Venu 3, should not have features that the Venu 3 doesn't.
I am a fan of the Ultra and the Epix 2 pro. Constantly switching between the two. Their differences are clear to me. I think for the most part I have settled on the Garmin. As a runner who cares about data and as someone who likes to switch from Apple to Android the Epix 2 pro wins. However, I do miss texting from my watch and being able to leave my phone behind some days. I like being able to use an IPhone 13 mini some days and then my Pjxel 8 other days and not miss a beat health tracking wise makes the Garmin the best choice as of now.
There’s definitely a lot to be said about that connectivity between smartphone/watch and cellular option too that is so cool. Also the peace of mind if something happens and you don’t have the phone on you
I totaly agree with your comments. I have a note 9 and iphone 13 mini (best phone, I love it) I was considering a apple watch for the ability to take & make calls and texts.. Where I'm at a disadvantage is I have the original Venu 2s, So as you know it doesnt have a mic or speaker, If I had the Venu plus or the Venu 3 I'd be dead happy.. Especially now they have upgraded Garmin Connect.. Its funny, if i get a call it shows up on the watch, it even lets me take the call by pressing the green phone icon, but then i have to go find my phone quickly, or people just hang up. I wonder if i could sell my venu2 and upgrade..
Nice one Alex 😎
Thanks Mary!! Glad you enjoyed it, it's been a perfect watch for me. Have a great weekend ahead!
Hey Alex, thanks for the awesome review! 🙌
I was a bit worried when I saw the leather band in the water, but I guess they thought of that too.
How often did you update the software on it? As you mentioned, that process needs some improvement.
They need to implement wireless charging somehow as well.
My pleasure! And yes, that charging cable is a little annoying, wireless would be awesome!
This is a great review, and this is exactly where I’m at right now trying to choose between the two, I’m definitely going with the 51 mil Garman Epic pro to Sapphire
this is so cool to hear, thank you!!
Apple Watches have failed me, in regards to heart monitor readings, and workouts, due to my tattoos. I’ve tried 3 variants and always the same problem. Wanted to stay in the Apple ecosystem, but Garmin seems to be superior in a lot of ways. Thanks for the video.
Thank you Alex.
Thanks mate!! I am cheering for Arsenal now btw, seeing Liverpool checked out yesterday 😅
@@AlexGTech - Bless you! 👍🏻🙏🏻
There are great reviews from channels like DCRainmaker but the pro has the upgraded HRM, skin temperature thermometer, ECG, and a built-in flashlight. It also comes in three different sizes which was the main reason I've purchased mine (small wrists team).
It would also make sense to future-proof yourself when it comes to software upgrades since Garmin stop delivering those after a couple years to older models.
love that channel! Great point on software updates 🙌🏼
Amazing video. I own Apple Watch Ultra 2 and Epix pro 51mm. Since I go on backpacking trips and hike, the Garmin is a no brainer. I use maps a lot. If I had to choose one device it would be the Garmin. I love the Apple Watch, but it falls so short in what matters to me the most -battery life and mapping. Yes, there are annoyances about the Garmin such as: lag, gesture mode not as snappy, clunkyness of software, no cellular connectivity etc. The Apple Watch is great but in order to get the Garmin functionality I have to get multiple apps. The Garmin saved me from going off route while hiking which could’ve put me in a dangerous situation. It is a fantastic fitness tool. Besides, the Garmin looks so much better on the wrist imo. For now, I’ll keep both but if Garmin improves software and adds cellular I will drop the AW.
thank you so much! The maps on this is fantastic! Agree on celular, that would be a nice feature, if Garmin ever brings it to their watches. Also agree on looks, this is superb!
Garmin did an LTE version of their forerunner 945. Not sure how it went though but it would be great to have as a norm on their watches going forward 😊
Perfect timing
Cheers!!
Guys please help. Should i buy this or should i wait for the next gen?
Great overview. I am actually holding my new purchase as Garmin nay release the new edition of either Fenix or Epix this year. Any insight info.
Nothing yet but rest assured I will be just as keen to get my hands on them if I can!
I use the Welltory app on my Samsung Watch 5 Pro, and I'd recommend the app if you want more data and even more on the paid version. I also use the Epix Pro Gen 2 51mm and swap between this and my Samsung (with welltory).
I'm torn between the two watches, to be honest.
Happy you mentioned Welltory as all most on TH-cam only talk about the Athletic app.
The Samsung for me also has better sleep tracking in comparison to the Garmin Epix Gen 2 and catches all my naps.
I had an Epic Pro 42mm for a few months after getting it on a great sale, then ended up selling it for a profit. I regret getting rid of it, the flashlight alone was a game changer, it was so much more useful than I thought. I hope the 47mm model comes on sale some time soon, such a great watch.
It's on sale
What an excellent comparison and detailed breakdown. Superb Alex. I have the Epix gen 2, and I really enjoy it. There is nothing I dislike. I also have Fenix 6 pro sapphire, and that is also awesome. Gamin produce top notch first class quality smart watches that are always supported. No apple gimmicky here 👌👍
Thanks so much Lee! And thanks for introducing me to the Garmin world!! Never looked back 👊🏼
Does the Italian Leather edition come with the black watch strap too? I'd like both!
Yes, that leather strap come as an additional strap.
@@AlexGTech Awesome Thanks for getting back to me influencer man!. I'm stuck between this and the Marq series. Leaning towards the Epix because of the bigger screen size. I haven't found a good comparison between the Marq Gen 2 and the Epix Gen 2, giving you content ideas :)
Did anyone notice that this watch has some delay / latency in turning on the screen when you just simply rotate the hand to check what time it is?
First time, when you rotate the hand, the watchis having some delay in turning on the screen, but if you rotate the hand immediately, for the 2, 3rd time there is no lag?
Is it only my watch that is having this issue or this is by design a Garmin behavior?
Posso estar errado mas notei seu sotaque e você é brasileiro, certo? kkk
Ótimo review meu brother, vou pegar um Epix Pro 2 também! Estou saindo de um 955 e fazendo um upgrade!
Muito obrigado! Acertou em cheio! Tenho um canal em Português também 👊🏼 Alex gear and tech Brasil 🇧🇷 abraço grande!
Great review! As a MIP fan I am thinking of getting a fenix pro. Still need to try one and see if its not to heavy to wear 24/7. Currently i am using an Instinct2x as my everyday and only watch. AWis no option since i am an android guy.
amazing! yeah, it's a shame the Apple watch doesn't sync with other systems. And vice versa too, maybe one day we will see these things being a bit more open. If the EU gets involved it might happen, like the USB-C debacle 😅
Where did you get that beautiful leather strap ?
It's an optional accessory when you buy it 👊🏼
Alex, so just to confirm, that’s the Garmin leather strap vs a third party? Thanks and congrats on your success!
I have the 7x pro and can’t imagine going back. Love the MIP as it’s more discrete and always on but the epix is incredible too. I want both lol. Great video!
Totally agree! Really enjoying the 7X Pro too - but missing the OLED display 🥰
MIP has a more « stealthy » look compared to the « toyish » Amoled thing)) Imagine a soldier in operation with all these vibrant colors on the wrist 😂
What size is this epix pro that is being reviewed?
51mm
isn't the epix 3 incoming?
Do you find this watch, the garmin epix pro sapphire with titanium , scratch resistant for real? Is it ok to bang the watch occasionally against something and not get scratched at all ? I own an instinct 2x, I'm thinking about upgrading to the epix pro 51mm sapphire, but what i just ask is crucial for that change to take place, for me. Thank you!!!
Yes, I mentioned it at the end, I am very clumsy, hitting it on car doors and walls, and this thing doesn't even have a micro scratch on it. To be honest even my Epix Gen 2 (non Pro) standard edition is pretty good with only minor marks on it after about 9-10 months of use
@@AlexGTech Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
That's not entirely true. An outdoor watch, but it will not survive collisions in the field. even rough edges are a problem. There are scratches on the edges of the bezel. There are thousands of photos in Garmin's FB groups that show that Fenix and Epix are a design failure. It's better in Quatix and Tactix, because they have different bezels.@@AlexGTech
I absolutely love my garmin epix pro
Beautiful watch!!
I just got the forerunner 965 but I wished I got this I do like the bigger face screen watches so I will try and get this later in the year
Yes, I have the regular Epix Gen 2 in 47mm but after using the Pro in 51mm I am sold on that size!
@@AlexGTech why did you sell that size
Alex, did you say you only have to charge your Epix Pro (Gen 2) every three weeks? Even with always on display and doing some workouts? I can go about 3-4 weeks with my Garmin Instinct 2X but would consider the Epix if it really lasted that long. I don't really like having the screen off on my watch. Hence my move from Apple Watch to Garmin's MIP display.
He probably meant with gesture mode. I own an Epix pro 51mm and it’s rated for 11 days WITH always on display. With gesture mode, battery is a month! Instinct 2x is an awesome watch, but not worth the extra cash for the Epix pro imo. The instinct can do about 90% of the things the Epix can do.
Hiya! Yes, I don't wait until it's on its last legs though, sorry should have made that clear. My Epix Gen 2 (not Pro) has gone to about 16 days before. Without turning anything off, I would say this can do 3 weeks easily, I just don't think I've 'et it get that far
Wit my use, once every 3 weeks without turning anything off. The only thing I haven't got on is the added GPS options so maybe that's helping
@@AlexGTech Thanks! And I just visited England for the first time earlier this month. Gotta say, Bakewell/Peak District area is INCREDIBLE!!! Can't wait to come back one day and do some real hikes! Appreciate you taking time to make these videos Alex. Especially for those of us that moved from Apple to Garmin.
My pleasure! And yes, that part of the country is so beautiful! We've had the longest winter this year so I am looking forward to the warm season to get out there! Have a good one
Eu lembro a sensação de medo antes de trocar meu Apple Watch 6 por um Forerunner 265s e… depois a sensação de alegria em ter o FR 265s no dia a dia. Meu único ponto negativo era o refresh rate da tela, mas compensa na bateria de quase duas semanas! Não sei se volto pra um Apple Watch. Provavelmente não!
Eu também meu… se o AWU vier com 4-5 dias de bateria eu até considero de novo mas até então, vou de Garmin mesmo 👊🏼
Just returned Apple Watch Ultra 2 and got this epix pro 2. I run, lift, casually swim, hike, bike, and do long distance backpacking trips. For me the flashlight 🔦 battery life, and info ℹ️ on health data and workout info is just way better than Apple. Apple is purely for phone calls texts, and casually working out. Both watches good but Garmin is epic for very active users.
Great move, I never looked back and I only got the regular Epix Gen 2. I did miss the celular aspect of the AWU initially, but then realised that I only every made 2 or 3 calls via the watch while out on a run.
Hello, what would you do....
FR965, Grit X2 Pro or Epix Pro 51mm?
Amigo, dúvida rápida.. a vibração dele tem um "som" meio estranho mesmo? Não é aquela vibração sutil como um apple watch, por exemplo. Noto como algo mais "grosseiro", como se houvesse até alguma peca solta dentro. Você sentiu isso no seu?
Amigo, o seu é o de 47mm ou de 51mm? Quero pegar um de 51mm, mas estou com medo de ser mto GRANDE. 😅
@@brunopistelli_ O meu é o de 51mm, no entanto, mesmo ele sendo um pouquinho maior, eu não pegaria o de 47 por conta da bateria que é bem menor e aguenta muito menos tempo. No geral, melhor garmin que já tive.
Is this a commercial for the product or a review!!
For me cellular connection is very importantn thats why I cant go with Garmin and have to stick with Apple Watch Ultra
Apple Watch is the best wrist hr monitor on the market.
With Apple Watch you press action button and side button at same time and it pauses and resumes doing it
I like the look of Tactix 7. Garmins look is getting long in the tooth. Great watches tho. price is something you have to swallow 😢. great review
thank you! yes, I am quite new to Garmin so the looks still feel fresh to me, but I see what you mean! These things are built like tanks, perfect for me as I am so clumsy. Just reviewing the Fenix 7X Pro right now, but I like the look of the Tactix too, I think those displays are the future really.
If garmin had cellular id probably switch from the ultra….hate taking my phone on runs.
That’s gotta be coming soon right? They’d win a bucket load of customers
Looks huge, I think the ultra is too large for my wrist, so this is clearly not for me. Next time DO START with the specs...
Thanks for the feedback! I think there are some awesome channels out there who do a much better job than me at going through the specs in detail. Whilst I cover them in my videos my approach is a bit more down-to-earth. Or at least I try to make it so 😂
You don’t need garmin express to update the watch
Apple Watch does not update Health Metrics in real time. It adjusts every 15 minutes. Even the apps you install on it.
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New update interface of the website coonect is really bad. There is like nothing to see. The old version was so much better.
I need to spend more time on that, I feel like it's quite customisable though
I would prefer this thing over any Apple watch, but it's too big for my taste. And way too expensive. I'd rather save some money and spend it on a proper mechanical Swiss watch.
As always, the difference between Garmin and Apple is data presentation. If youre someone who actually runs, Apple has nothing to offer you. Great hardware, but absolutely nothing on the software side when it comes to training.
Very well put! To be honest, at my level that is just fine - but I couldn't go back to that Apple Watch battery now
Why did I watch a review of a watch I own already?
haha I do that too, all the time 😅
I wish I could say this some day.
"Didn't buy this watch with my own money, my mom did".
haha wish I could have kept it 🥹
Come on man, like saying let's compare a Land Cruiser to a Suburban. Both nice in their own environment but two very different use cases.
I think that's exactly what I said in the video 😅
@@AlexGTech You absolutely did. Just isn't fair to the Apple Watch lol. Land Cruiser is just so much better.
That UI is kinda sluggish! ,😐
It doesn't feel like that at all, irl to be honest. I do slow down the footage quite a bit in lots of places, (down to 25% the speed) so it could be that.
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The sensors are so inaccurate on these watches compared to an Apple Watch. The sleep tracking is abysmal. I spent some time and was dissatisfied, ended returning it and keeping the Apple Watch.
Though I must say, it’s a very good looking watch and Apple need to learn and move from the ugly square.
The Apple Watch Ultra is not bad at all, to be honest - but for sleep tracking it wasn't detecting when I woke up during the night sometimes. This seems to be a bit better in that sense. But everyone is different really and there's many factors that could make one better than the other. I just think they (Apple) need to improve battery and that would be a great all-rounder watch
Why do you need a device for sleep tracking? Your body is the perfect sleep tracker. Wake up energized? Slept well. Wake up tired? Didn't sleep well.
@@AlexGTech agreed. Battery is absolutely poor on Apple Watch. I just wished they relied less on the apps on the AW and made it more simple like the Garmin, I don’t see myself using it for anything other than sleep, exercise etc tracking.
@@brandonw1604 because I have a condition that troubles me with sleep. That’s why it’s required.
In my experience, the Epix pro is on par with the Apple Watch (I own Apple Watch Ultra 2 and have worn them both while running and they are within 1-2bpm of each other on HR. Most of the metrics are close enough to give you a good idea on training metrics. I wouldn’t be too picky. If it’s within a small margin, you get the same benefits. Both great watches!
The training pause is done by pressing 2 buttons at the same time, so it is not necessary to use the display, otherwise I am more interested in long-term trends than garmin's recommendations and metrics, they were quite misleading for me. Overall I'm glad I switched from the Epix to the Ultra, they have better all day usage value for me. Thanks for the video.
Good point and thanks for that tip on pausing the workout! Honestly, I think if Apple can bring a new version with 3+ days battery I would consider going back. But that will also depend on how good the new iPhone will be, as right now I've switched mostly to Android
@@AlexGTech t I believe that apple will improve the software, especially for sports and health monitoring, because it is aware of its reserves compared to garmin, I look forward to what it will present this year, it's hard to say about the battery, but we'll see
I am the average dad lol
haha! Shoutout to all the average dads out there. We're in this together 😅
A little bit of running. 20 to 30k a week. Humble brag hahaha. I dont even do 20 to 30k a year hahaha. Nice one.
haha honestly, I wish I could do more, this is really just to keep active - have a great weekend ahead! 🥰
Dude, that’s $1000 watch it better be better than the apple that’s not even a comparison that is $1000 watch. I’m good. I’ll keep my Apple Watch .
I think that's exactly what I said in the video 😅
What is this Apple Watch Pro you speak of?
Hopefully Apple gets their act together on a proper activity device with the AWU 3.