"That build was ass" - A chatter after the scoreboard shows Cross got 2.5x the kill count of his teammates. They really just be saying things sometimes huh.
@@daycejohnson what do you mean it didn't do anything? it refunds super energy like crazy if you constantly jolt targets and if anything sometimes the problem was cross just not using his super whenever he could
Super energy gain of Raiju is falsely advertised; it technically does do it, but it acts more like Galanor where it’s only on super cast where you can see that refund, and only on Arc debuffed targets that get defeated by the lightning strikes of the super cast. Coolguy did an entire video explaining this. EDIT: the kills can also come from Gathering Storm itself, but if you’re relying on Jolt to proc the kills, you’re gonna get inconsistent results. Arc Blind gives better results.
Seeing how well that Hunter build performed while Raiju's is bugged, I'd love to see what it would if it swapped Raiju out for Gifted Conviction for basically permanent 50% DR.
Tbh with every new build battle im getting more sure that ppl are not looking at builds and synergies in them but at what class the build is for, like hunter build did twice the kills that warlock did
I hope thats not all. The worm hunger thing forces you to use a certain element. It sounded more like they were going to have kills generate more super energy back when you have any roaming super equipped, except Celestial Nighthawk.
@ no doubt. This was them giving us a preview of what it’s gonna be like. Although the roaming supers on prismatic warlock are doodoo. So it’s more of a buff for the subclasses. Man I can’t wait for new darkness supes.
I’ve been having that glitch happen a lot too. It’s like your grenade explodes on nothing and kills you for a misadventure. Never ever happened to me before Revenant.
@@Amirifiz The ether bits for the seasonal stuff apparently have collision, which apparently is a known issue. That would explain how much it happens this season and not previously.
Would be awesome to do a tournament bracket full of some of the best builds showcased this far. Have a different tourney bracket for Hunter, Warlock, and Titan until you've got a winner for each class. Then a final showdown between the 3 class winners.
Yeah ngl that was mind-blowing Cross considered that roll to be “dick” 😂 like it was a 68 total roll, which after fully upgrading and assuming he used a +10 stat increase perk, it would then be a 90 total roll exotic, and then he could’ve turned into artifice armor making it a whopping 93 total roll exotic. It had high resilience and high discipline and decent recovery. Smh lol 😂
@@syonxxi8541 I didn't see how much mobility it had--his head was in the way--but it didn't seem like a lot so I don't think it's bad either, but considering how useless mobility is on warlock you might as well subtract the mobility stat from the total compared to one with only 2 mobility.
Raiju should be changed to something like Tether. Where after throwing the staff, tagging enemies with the jolting bursts give back super energy up to 50%.
So CoolGuy brought this up in his video but there's a good chance that Bungie, like most times, didn't word it right and should be saying "Arc debuffed targets WITH YOUR SUPER grants a small amount of Gathering Storm energy". That seems to be more consistent as he showed blinding a room with a nade then throwing the super, which gave up to 50% back. The reason doing it to a close target works better is because you're jolting all enemies around you first (much like Ascension) vs things like Jolting or Voltshot which only affects 1 target. I think Ex Diris could work well here as you'll often be blinding the room, making it easier to debuff mutiple enemies for the super regen.
Throw flash bang. Throw super at flash bang and you’ll get 50% + super back. It literally says Arc Debuffed targets. You can literally throw your flash bang at the wall, super it and get 50% back it doesn’t need ads. At all. It’s the flashbabg that gets the super back.
Raiden Flux with the Arc roaming super looks like it will be very good with the upcoming buffs and artifact mods. I’m gonna try out a build to test it out
I really hope they fix Raiju’s soon. It barely works at all, but it has the potential to be so good, if it could actually do all the things it’s supposed to do, and do them consistently.
I think the Hunter build looked a lot more effective in this particular gm. Cross was in danger much less, and he killed SOOOOOO many more ads than both his teammates and nearly doubled the kills he got with the Warlock build. Gathering Storm is also a MUCH better super than Chaos Reach. It needs a huge buff, like a MASSIVE buff of 50% or more, and it's veing ignored in the upcoming super changes. The Coldheart thing is whatever, it's fine I guess but whatching that gameplay I can think of a lot of weapons that would be better suited for that build. But just looking at the gameplay and especially the match results the Hunter build definitely wiped the floor with the Warlock one. Statistics wise it's just better, not sure why chat picked Warlock instead.
Warlock build be better with Anarchy, ngl. Or, old school Wendigo if you kept it. With explosive light and blinding nades, if you insist on Arbalest as the exotic. Blinding everything so you can focus on the champ is too nice. Gotta be an orb printer though. Add with blind on the pulse rifle headshots too. Yeah. Money. After this artifact is done, could with the new GL with Withering Gaze. Weaken the champ and the pop super. Works on all GLs for now though. You know first test on a build is pretty good, when in expert onslaught your teammates just start standing on top of the bank watching you because you’re just slaying everything too fast for them to get any kills 😂😅😅😅😅
Everyone hear me out real quick, az should do a video with mactics and another build creator or someone who does build video counter, they get 3 submissions and they all head into a grand master and solo different sections then work together for the final room, it might depend on the GM but it should az soloing the first ad dense room, then mactics on the next ad dense room and etc, I found this to be a cool idea any thghts?
Geo build can't compete with an arc featured prismatic build. Pick a high dmg super, get all the ability and transcendence generation from arc, get blind, jolt, and unravel even radiant. Boss/major dmg beast mode and the ability to clear ads
Throw flash bang. Throw super at flash bang and you’ll get 50% + super back. Every single damn time. It literally says Arc Debuffed targets. You can literally throw your flash bang at the wall, super it and get 50% back it doesn’t need ads. At all. It’s the flashbabg that gets the super back. Not the ads, not the super, not the distance, not the mods, not the damage. None of that
He should change the way he does these build battles. Either actually have the people who submitted play the build with him in whatever content head to head and in a solo setting. Then rate it based on its team play and solo play. Lastly have the best overall rating and that’s where chat would vote the winner.
Enhanced Hung Jury with kinetic tremors and cascade point slaps real hard. Pair it with Indebted and Grand Overture. Now you have quick barrier remover, great damage, jolt + blind with indebted, and even spam blinding explosions with Grand Overture's rockets + its catalyst.
soo much hunter haters ,that build plus cross playstyle was soo awsome to watch ,cross actualy scowcase tepest strike potential here ,only problem was exotic choice maybe with another exotic could be better
Raijus is so bad and I’m tired of people acting like it’s good. It’s essentially the same exact exotic as Skull of Dire Ahamkara but it’s worse in literally every way. Same energy gains but it’s harder to achieve. Like why does gathering storm have to kill DEBUFFED targets to refund energy while skull just refunds the same energy on kills????
@ yeah cuz right now it just gives some stats and that’s fine but it needs a little something extra to keep up with the times. A blanket trace rifle buff would be really good for it as well bc they kind of suck tbh. I always said that they should swap moving target for auto loading holster on anarchy and then give it jolting feedback for a catty as well but that gun doesn’t need it as much
@ a lot of good points I agree with. They do need a buff for trace rifles for sure and adding things like jolting feedback would help significantly. The glow up they did with prospector hopefully they do something with anarchy. That would be awesome.
cold heart is good, but I don't think it works well with Raiju's, atleast not for getting the extra super energy. Something that jolts or blinds would be better. Ex Diris might be decent, or delicate tomb.
as a warlock main, this arc warlock build is quite known and if you know what you are doing you can straight up solo anything with it, but it is not a free win, the build is strong af, but if you make a single mistake you are GONE
GLs are suppose to be part of the seasonal meta but i cant use them. its too frustrating getting killed by enemies shooting the projectile. terrible idea bungie.
Magnificent. Truly amazing; A build battles without graviton lance.
He probably saw all the negative feedback he does look at comments and purposely choose these to give everyone a break. Time to thank him.
I like geomags with coldheart with the blinding fragment , every kill will just blind , basically a arc flavored agers scepter
That’s the classic blow thy load build lol.
Fun fact: Blink was based on the guy at 22:00
I wish Arc would get some love; Arclock just feels ruff.
"That build was ass" - A chatter after the scoreboard shows Cross got 2.5x the kill count of his teammates.
They really just be saying things sometimes huh.
I mean it was bad, Raijus didn’t do anything almost the entire GM.
@@daycejohnson what do you mean it didn't do anything? it refunds super energy like crazy if you constantly jolt targets and if anything sometimes the problem was cross just not using his super whenever he could
@@daycejohnson Rajius right now is bugged
Super energy gain of Raiju is falsely advertised; it technically does do it, but it acts more like Galanor where it’s only on super cast where you can see that refund, and only on Arc debuffed targets that get defeated by the lightning strikes of the super cast. Coolguy did an entire video explaining this.
EDIT: the kills can also come from Gathering Storm itself, but if you’re relying on Jolt to proc the kills, you’re gonna get inconsistent results. Arc Blind gives better results.
@@daycejohnson A good job proving his point that you just speak out of your ass for that actually knowing anything.
Seeing how well that Hunter build performed while Raiju's is bugged, I'd love to see what it would if it swapped Raiju out for Gifted Conviction for basically permanent 50% DR.
These build battles actually brought me back to D2
Tbh with every new build battle im getting more sure that ppl are not looking at builds and synergies in them but at what class the build is for, like hunter build did twice the kills that warlock did
The worm hunger thing gotta be what bungie hyped up last TWAB about more supers in PVE content . I’m all for it.
I hope thats not all. The worm hunger thing forces you to use a certain element. It sounded more like they were going to have kills generate more super energy back when you have any roaming super equipped, except Celestial Nighthawk.
@ no doubt. This was them giving us a preview of what it’s gonna be like. Although the roaming supers on prismatic warlock are doodoo. So it’s more of a buff for the subclasses. Man I can’t wait for new darkness supes.
Saving that warlock build immediately
This is the “itsThizzle” build right? Geomag build that is
Close! He used lost signal instead of arbalest and deterministic chaos for the heavy to deal with barriers. He solo’d GM with it so broken
How about this build has been out b4 itstizzle was making video 😂 u guys are funny...
I’ve been having that glitch happen a lot too. It’s like your grenade explodes on nothing and kills you for a misadventure. Never ever happened to me before Revenant.
Im pretty sure its scorn projectiles. They've been shooting my nades the second it leaves the barrel.
It hasn't happened to me with any other group.
@@Amirifiz The ether bits for the seasonal stuff apparently have collision, which apparently is a known issue.
That would explain how much it happens this season and not previously.
I thought this was happening but wasn’t sure good to know I’m not going crazy 😂
@@Welverin the purple stuff? Damn sounds about right.
Should have used the blinding perks in the artifact mod, it’s really good for blinging everything
Geo mag’s new perk gives it more super energy when collecting ionic traces
geomags are always fun
Would be awesome to do a tournament bracket full of some of the best builds showcased this far. Have a different tourney bracket for Hunter, Warlock, and Titan until you've got a winner for each class. Then a final showdown between the 3 class winners.
1:08 HOW IS THAT REMOTELY CLOSE TO BEEN BAD????
Yeah ngl that was mind-blowing Cross considered that roll to be “dick” 😂 like it was a 68 total roll, which after fully upgrading and assuming he used a +10 stat increase perk, it would then be a 90 total roll exotic, and then he could’ve turned into artifice armor making it a whopping 93 total roll exotic. It had high resilience and high discipline and decent recovery. Smh lol 😂
@@syonxxi8541 I didn't see how much mobility it had--his head was in the way--but it didn't seem like a lot so I don't think it's bad either, but considering how useless mobility is on warlock you might as well subtract the mobility stat from the total compared to one with only 2 mobility.
@@keithwillson2019lol I’d say it was about 8 ish or so on the mobility probably no more than that
lol i noticed that. I guess recovery stat?
Too much mobility and intellect.
Warlocks rise up? 🧙♂️
Im guessing chat is pro warlock yeah? From the gameplay shown the hunter build was miles ahead 😂
F'real. Warlock was a faster run by a minute or so, but the titan was carrying the warlock run. Cross was carrying the hunter run by a mile.
Raiju should be changed to something like Tether. Where after throwing the staff, tagging enemies with the jolting bursts give back super energy up to 50%.
finally something other than graviton lance💀
So CoolGuy brought this up in his video but there's a good chance that Bungie, like most times, didn't word it right and should be saying "Arc debuffed targets WITH YOUR SUPER grants a small amount of Gathering Storm energy". That seems to be more consistent as he showed blinding a room with a nade then throwing the super, which gave up to 50% back.
The reason doing it to a close target works better is because you're jolting all enemies around you first (much like Ascension) vs things like Jolting or Voltshot which only affects 1 target.
I think Ex Diris could work well here as you'll often be blinding the room, making it easier to debuff mutiple enemies for the super regen.
Arc soul targeting the dark ether orbs from the origin trait just makes it even better to pair Bittersweet with Stormcaller.
I used the same build for arc warlock and even without the arc modifier in that GM it’s still a great build and its fun
People still don't understand it's the storm before the throw that regends super energy with the Harness. You have to pop it on top of enemies.
Throw flash bang. Throw super at flash bang and you’ll get 50% + super back. It literally says Arc Debuffed targets. You can literally throw your flash bang at the wall, super it and get 50% back it doesn’t need ads. At all. It’s the flashbabg that gets the super back.
the fact that cold heart isn’t a stasis archetype is kind of stunning
The key to Raiju's refund is HITTING arc debuffed targets with it. If a group is jolted BEFORE throwing you pretty much always get half back
Raiden Flux with the Arc roaming super looks like it will be very good with the upcoming buffs and artifact mods. I’m gonna try out a build to test it out
Arc subs on a no arc surge week is wild but I'm into it
The Hunter build seemed so much better, I was not expecting the vote to be 70% warlock
The best build is coldheart with geomags. Put on elemental pickup with ammo build.
Tickle fingers is hilarious, bcuz that's exactly what it feels like😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bungie should give Jolting Feedback to Coldheart. Give us a reason to run these exotic trace rifles.
I'm telling you, ExDeris is popping off this week with Arc worm.
To be fair if you have the artifact mod that buffs dark ether weapons then that pulse rifle is overcharged
always loved Geomags. Arclock might not be the best, but Geos def put it in A tier for me personally
GEOMAG #GANGGANG !!!!!!!!
Coldheart and Geo is extremely good, cause sustained damage produces Ionic Traces, good damage and good super regen.
I really hope they fix Raiju’s soon. It barely works at all, but it has the potential to be so good, if it could actually do all the things it’s supposed to do, and do them consistently.
I think the Hunter build looked a lot more effective in this particular gm. Cross was in danger much less, and he killed SOOOOOO many more ads than both his teammates and nearly doubled the kills he got with the Warlock build. Gathering Storm is also a MUCH better super than Chaos Reach. It needs a huge buff, like a MASSIVE buff of 50% or more, and it's veing ignored in the upcoming super changes. The Coldheart thing is whatever, it's fine I guess but whatching that gameplay I can think of a lot of weapons that would be better suited for that build. But just looking at the gameplay and especially the match results the Hunter build definitely wiped the floor with the Warlock one. Statistics wise it's just better, not sure why chat picked Warlock instead.
28:35 Could be the Ether blobs for the seasonal stuff getting in the way.
Did my grenade launcher get......yes, yes it did. Bungie need to take a hike with that.
Warlock build be better with Anarchy, ngl. Or, old school Wendigo if you kept it. With explosive light and blinding nades, if you insist on Arbalest as the exotic. Blinding everything so you can focus on the champ is too nice. Gotta be an orb printer though. Add with blind on the pulse rifle headshots too. Yeah. Money. After this artifact is done, could with the new GL with Withering Gaze. Weaken the champ and the pop super. Works on all GLs for now though. You know first test on a build is pretty good, when in expert onslaught your teammates just start standing on top of the bank watching you because you’re just slaying everything too fast for them to get any kills 😂😅😅😅😅
This background track, though 🥵
Fallen Sunstar is just better for Arc-lock imo.
It's great for ally support
Never thought to use cold heart honestly. Just been rocking Concurrence with riju's but this seems nice for beefy activities.
The first build wit vesper instead of geo would be fire frfr less super damage but blinding rift plus jolt
I’ve been using an Orpheus rig build and it’s so crazy with the worm mod.
I've had the same problem where one of my exotics wasn't in my vault anymore without me deleting it.
Everyone hear me out real quick, az should do a video with mactics and another build creator or someone who does build video counter, they get 3 submissions and they all head into a grand master and solo different sections then work together for the final room, it might depend on the GM but it should az soloing the first ad dense room, then mactics on the next ad dense room and etc, I found this to be a cool idea any thghts?
Just use erianna w/ hullabaloo as your heavy and consecration. Kills everything and lots of explosions.
That weird acrylic sliding on glass sound scared me, what’s making the sound? 24:14
Geo build can't compete with an arc featured prismatic build. Pick a high dmg super, get all the ability and transcendence generation from arc, get blind, jolt, and unravel even radiant. Boss/major dmg beast mode and the ability to clear ads
Hey cross i found out why your grenade got shot and downed you, arc souls also shoots my gunpowder gamble 🥺 15:00
Great build but I still prefer my vesper of radius over geomags. Wanna talk about ability upkeep lol
I miss Geomags so much
Throw flash bang. Throw super at flash bang and you’ll get 50% + super back. Every single damn time. It literally says Arc Debuffed targets. You can literally throw your flash bang at the wall, super it and get 50% back it doesn’t need ads. At all. It’s the flashbabg that gets the super back. Not the ads, not the super, not the distance, not the mods, not the damage. None of that
People forget arc warlock is pretty insane lol.
He should change the way he does these build battles. Either actually have the people who submitted play the build with him in whatever content head to head and in a solo setting. Then rate it based on its team play and solo play. Lastly have the best overall rating and that’s where chat would vote the winner.
Raijus is more consistent if you utilize blinding grenades and blind more before using the super or whatever coolguy said lol
Enhanced Hung Jury with kinetic tremors and cascade point slaps real hard. Pair it with Indebted and Grand Overture. Now you have quick barrier remover, great damage, jolt + blind with indebted, and even spam blinding explosions with Grand Overture's rockets + its catalyst.
didnt you make a build a while ago with geomags and coldheart? i feel like that would have worked a lot better
soo much hunter haters ,that build plus cross playstyle was soo awsome to watch ,cross actualy scowcase tepest strike potential here ,only problem was exotic choice maybe with another exotic could be better
Ngl. Hunter def won.
You are a warlock main bro. But you love Titan
The geomags is from itztizzle
This video might just be solid proof that Chaos Reach is way too underpowered
Arc Surge would let that warlock cook
Deleted his Geomags before he hit record, we know your tricks Warlock Main
I used Coldheart in a raid once and people made so much fun of me but I had a great time
I thought your super regen on Raiju’s was based on the amount of damage/kills the additional lightning strikes and your initial strike of the staff?
no
Better off using storm trance for ads and survivability with storm dancers brace
I own 50 pairs of geomags but still havemt tried em on. Yep, warlock main.
What was the purpose of cold heart on the hunter build
Secondary dps option + ionic traces for more ability spam, it looks like
Anyone know of any alternatives to the arc seasonal pulse rifle? RNGesus is not on my side this season
Raijus is so bad and I’m tired of people acting like it’s good. It’s essentially the same exact exotic as Skull of Dire Ahamkara but it’s worse in literally every way.
Same energy gains but it’s harder to achieve. Like why does gathering storm have to kill DEBUFFED targets to refund energy while skull just refunds the same energy on kills????
Every single bloody time I focus an exotic on warlock it's high mobility... absolutely hate the focusing system
I’m just baffled as to why use cold heart and shouldn’t the build just b as they set it out without swapping stuff?
Why is no one using tractor with shotgun - barrier - seem like it’d be nice. Is it not any good?
Feel like fallen sunstar would be better with the warlock build, but that’s just me
They should probably change cold hearts catty to jolting feedback ngl
That would actually make it way better than where it is currently. Good take.
@ yeah cuz right now it just gives some stats and that’s fine but it needs a little something extra to keep up with the times. A blanket trace rifle buff would be really good for it as well bc they kind of suck tbh. I always said that they should swap moving target for auto loading holster on anarchy and then give it jolting feedback for a catty as well but that gun doesn’t need it as much
@ a lot of good points I agree with. They do need a buff for trace rifles for sure and adding things like jolting feedback would help significantly. The glow up they did with prospector hopefully they do something with anarchy. That would be awesome.
I was running this all day yesterday and day before, I bet someone bit off it lol
Hunter build is so funny Raijus is doing literally nothing lol
would love if in PvE you wouldn’t get blinded by your own flashbangs
Nice
Every build featuring a scout rifle should lose build battle. I’m falling asleep watching him shoot that hung jury
cold heart is good, but I don't think it works well with Raiju's, atleast not for getting the extra super energy. Something that jolts or blinds would be better. Ex Diris might be decent, or delicate tomb.
Yea, would have been amazing if he used the arc artifact perks
Rigged
People have to quit coping with Raijus harness. It isn't good. It doesn't even do what the exotic perks says it does.
Not 100% sure there's much 'coping' going on when it comes to raiju's, but you do you brother 👍👍
It actually does do it but it's just super inconsistent.
I don't think it's cope if it's only real issue is that it's bugged right now
Yes it does do what it’s perk says goob
Mfw I kill a major and get almost 10% super energy, then use super and get almost 60% back
as a warlock main, this arc warlock build is quite known and if you know what you are doing you can straight up solo anything with it, but it is not a free win, the build is strong af, but if you make a single mistake you are GONE
Corrosion would have been good as well
Brother, take one of my 4 god roll geomags
Not gonna lie, I’m a warlock main and i thought the Hunter build was better.
GLs are suppose to be part of the seasonal meta but i cant use them. its too frustrating getting killed by enemies shooting the projectile. terrible idea bungie.
Dude you barely even touching on that build. The way that I have it it set up for the dungeon. It just destroys.
Wat? The Raiju build was clearly better. Like, it wasn't even close.
They neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed to buff Chaos Reach
I feel like these will only be usable when it’s arc hunger tho. Take that away and they both suck
They get banned?
No, it’s a temp minute to end of stream ban.