Heritage: The 1992 Ottawa Senators Expansion Draft
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- Ottawa apologizes: The two words that became a bit of a meme within the hockey world in the early 90's, and for good reason. The Expansion Draft that year was already awful for the Senators and Lightning. Next to no one was available for them to take and others colluded with each other to make sure their vulnerable players weren't selected.
But Ottawa would take it a step further. Many more with their bungling. This is the story of the 1992 Ottawa Senators Expansion Draft
Even the remaining people left from the original senators would better than the 1992 sens
They probably would've drafted better in that expansion draft.
And as a reward for their sucking, they got to pick.......Alexandre Daigle 😂
@@dickbuttkiss6002 LMAO
@@expxnd5167 lmao
@@dickbuttkiss6002 the so-called Next Joe Sakic
Wow, I wasn’t even born yet then and I’m depressed about that team
Same
I was half a year in when this was happening. I’m depressed I wasn’t born earlier so I could witness this shitshow live
Me a 15 year old vikings fan: first time?
Whoa... I did not expect to see you here!
Even worse, Ottawa couldn't even secure or even build a state of the art hockey arena for another few seasons. They had to play at the Civic Center where the 67s were playing, which was laughable!
This guy is making legendary documentaries now great job Tree
Nice profile pick
Better than ESPN
@@EssexAggiegrad2011 In other words, water is wet.
More like mockumentary
@@jqwiiiiqqirmnsnnsnnsnnsmjjrj True
"Unlike Ottawa, I do not apologize." needs to be on a t-shirt. Or at least a bumper sticker.
I’m a Sens fan and I’d buy it
@theplayboymaster Yes.
I read that in William Zabka's voice from Cobra kai. lol.
Sounds like something some independent running for mp from rural Alberta would campaign on.
What an absolute master class in acting by tree to beautifully reenact how the Senators tried to charge their laptop
The Senators should have not relied on a laptop that was out of battery
I loved the disclaimer: "Dramatic interpretation", instead of dramatic reenactment!🤣
A laptop battery doomed a franchise. Wow.
All for the want of a nail.
And in a time where it was hard to get one
Every Senators fan about Eugene Melnyk: Ottawa Apologizes
@Harry Engel A really shitty owner that the only one who’s worse than him in hockey is Harold Ballard
@Harry Engel Yep. He still has time to inflict more damage to Ottawa
@Harry Engel Easy, Melynk is the on-ice Judas.
@Harry Engel Melnyk is much worse than Snyder
@@blueflamexl9880 No way. Melnyk may be a cheap ass, but he at least hasn't been involved in sex trafficking like Snyder has been. The only comparable to Snyder is Harold Ballard.
No matter what, we can all agree on 1 thing:
The Senators back then were a team.
Debatable
@@obijuanquenobi1911 You don't get the joke, do you? It's from when the Ottawa GM said We're A Team.
@@declanssportsdesk I know. I was joking. Its probably probably their biggest accomplishment in their history
@@obijuanquenobi1911 Nah. Their biggest accomplishment in their history (besides the 11 Stanley Cups won by the previous iteration) was the 2007 season when they were treated like bread against the Ducks and Scott Niedermayer. Other than that, they've been living off the legacies of Danny Alfredsson and Bryan Murray* (God rest his soul).
They also apologize
0:07 The "S" only stands for sucks when regarding the Mariners' cap logo.
I hope UT does a Haters Guide to the Kraken expansion draft next month.
oh he for sure will
Hopefully
He will.
@1 2 Arena's the Krack Den, fans are Krackheads, skalpers outside are Krack dealers - this team is a meme goldmine already ;)
At least Ottawa’s future is much brighter with a young core of Chabot Tkachuk Stützle. The only problem is the well....... Eugene
And also they’re a team! Clearly a bright future with that achievement
That's why, as a Sens fan, I won't get attached to those guys the way I did with Karlsson, Alfie, etc. Brady Tkachuck seems to be the light at the end of the tunnel, but that light is actually a freight train being driven by Melnyk himself. I just can't be emotionally invested in this team anymore.
@@MadMike1 My solace is that those teams always had at least one deep playoff run and would be always fun to watch at the very least. A lot of successful years despite never going all the way.
But yea I feel the same way. Can never fully trust the future because of all the shenanigans that are bound to happen. Here's to hoping for the best!
@@MadMike1 as a Blues fan, I'm hoping Melnyk is douchey enough to give up Brady to his hometown team for pennies on the dollar just to avoid giving him a big contract. I'll be grateful, but will still give Melnyk the middle finger for putting the City of Ottawa on suicide watch
Ottawa apologizes.😂
If you thought that Expansion Draft was a disaster, get this: they took Alex Daigle in the 1993 NHL Draft with their 1st overall pick, and he became one of the biggest high profile draft busts in NHL history. On the flip side, they did draft pretty well outside of Daigle (Yashin in 92, Bonk in 94, Berard in 95, Philips in 96, Hossa in 97), and made the playoffs in the 5th year of their existence.
What I am saying is that despite epic fails, teams and individuals can move past it instead of letting that fail define the person or franchise. So if you are a hockey fan, please do not be so judgmental.
And don't forget what Daigle said upon his selection--"Nobody remembers number two." That second pick went on to become a Hall of Famer.
I believe they got Havlat in '98.
@@Tubewings Pronger lmao
@@Tubewings Was it Pronger or Kariya? I don’t remember
Daigle did play over 600 games in the league. You want a ruined player? Look at Greg Joly…thrown into a cauldron known as the first year Capitals, who went 8-67-5. Joly would be -82.
Being a sens fan my whole life I was dying laughing when I found out they never charged the laptop 😂
Wow its actually true ha
Props for using the Sleech Bros’ theme better than “Doug” did.
That music choice was god tier plus ultra
@Harry Engel 3:49
They were members of the A/V club
I forgot their last name. Al & Moo right?
Even back at the start of the 90s, no one remembered to plug their electronic devices in overnight.
Don’t let this make you forget that Thomas Jefferson bought the first Expansion pack with the Louisiana purchase. Which makes all you Midwestern states just a DLC.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
What the hell does that make us West Coast states, then? Season pass perks? XD
Microtransactions.
@@christmashake8968 😭
@@christmashake8968 The West Coast was originally going to be paid but it instead became a free expansion pack
“Ottawa apologized all over the ice against their opponents.”
😂
1:05 oh look the GM that’s currently holding Nashville back!
This team got swept by the Orioles. They should hang their heads in shame
I would be surprised if the Orioles can actually play better hockey
@The Dude they lost 0-71 to the 0-16 Browns in the time travellers guild hockey tournament
@@thedude3065 Mancini shot SCOREEEEEE
@@ReflectionOfPerfection Mancini is lord and savior
Last time I was this early, the Avalanche had a 9 minute power play against the Knights.
@Harry Engel Yes. Remember the basic penalty is 2 minutes, 5 minutes for a major and 10 is reserved usually for the "GET THE FUCK OFF MY ICE!" game misconduct.
You have to chain together stupidity to get a 9 minute power play.
@Harry Engel Yes and it takes peak stupidity to get that long
Ah yes the We’re A Team birth story.
I remember being excited for the Sens as a new Canadian team, and wanting them to do well.
After their first game, I happily posted the league standings on my bulletin board, hoping to track their journey.
And then they kept losing and losing and losing... and I was embarrassed to go to school wearing any of my Sens gear... it didn't help I lived in Southwest Ontario...
Pretty soon I gave up keeping track and the Sens lost their place on my board and in my heart...
Very excited to see "Hatter's Guide To The 2021 Expansion Draft"
🎩 🎩 🎩
It’s weird that has a Tampa fan, this video makes me extremely happy. We are the better expansion team, much success.
Yeah until you realize we were owned by the Yakuza.
Aaaand there goes that success.
@@TheDragonsPit welp, at least we actually won cups.
I've been a Lightning fan since the begining. I'm 52. I can remember many years that they were total shit. All the pro teams in Tampa area have been total shit for a lot of my life. It's nice to see them doing so well lately.
@@richfl1969 At least the Bolts fan base had to suffer a bit before the cups. I can't say the same about a Vegas team that's going to beat my team and then head to their 2nd stanley cup final in 4 years! Wow, I wish the Expos had half the talent available to them that Vegas did. Maybe we would still have a team :( Vegas can go puck itself!
@@Pocketrocket-pj1us Agree. Seattle will be a contender right out of the box as well.
Tree is one of the best hockey journalists today.
I'm nowhere near a journalist. I'd put that title on someone like Katie Strang.
I must say I have been enjoying these historical analysis videos of teams immensely. I hope more of this style of video from you comes out as it has that comedic, crude charm to it that fills the pessimist sports fan in me
Lmao is that profile pic from Deliver us part 2?
I just realized the background music from about 3:45-5:05 was the Al and Moo theme from Doug. God, I love that show.
As an original 1997 Carolina Hurricanes fan,i look forward to seeing the team Ronnie Francis builds. He put a solid foundation together here in Raleigh through awesome drafting/scouting......
As a Hurricanes fan who grew up with the team, I agree with the drafting and scouting aspects. But as far as getting the team in a spot to contend, that's not something Francis can do for the Kraken. He never made any real moves to get us out of mediocrity - the only exception I can think of was bringing in Teuvo Teravainen.
I'm confident the Kraken can build their prospect pool, but they'll need someone else to take them beyond that.
5:42 All of a sudden, Vegas' "Medieval Times on Ice" pregames don't seem nearly as stupid.
At least it goes with their theme. Their AHL team called the Silver Knights also works.
Ottawa was simply ahead of its time!
If you think Ottawa’s first ever opening night pre game spectacle was nice. Then you should watch Anahiem’s😄 I couldn’t tell if I was about to watch a hockey game or Disney on Ice 😄
It was the 90s - they were all still coming-down off of the 80s 🤣
Well considering who owned the team, you could've watched both lol
The Iceman playing "Rock the Pond"...haha
I still feel bad for Peter Sidorkiewicz. He was invited to the NHL All Star game that year though so at least someone out there recognized his heroics for the team that year :P
@Matt Joseph I don't understand why bad clubs always trade their sudden-star goalies after one season. It happened back then, and it still happens to this day. I guess they want to try and trade them when they are at their highest value for forward and defensive pieces, but I mean... You need a good goalie too. The least a team can do is reward the guy who kept you competitive with a nice contract.
I look forward to you doing a Ducks video when ESPN starts to air hockey again. The Ducks intro video is worth it.
4:52 “Fuck off, Mel!”
Ottawa's best player during their inaugural season was Norm Maciver who they claimed off waivers two days before the start of the season. Yup, their best player was a waiver pickup.
“At head coach leading this surprise story is Rick Bowness. For those of you that don’t know this name he’s been in this league for a very long time. Wanna know how long? He was the coach of the expansion Ottawa senators. Remember them? One of the worst teams from a record standpoint”
I didn’t realize Bowness was their first coach.
@@AEMoreira81 Yeah, he went from taking the Bruins to the 1992 Wales Conference Final to this horror show. OUCH!!!!!
Ah, back in the days when expansion teams actually had to struggle for a while.
Expansion drafts today are like shakedowns. Guaranteed Seattle mops up their division next year so long as their management isnt completely fucking braindead
Edit: turns out management was completely fucking braindead.
@Harry Engel Yea. The only good team in that division is Vegas and maybe the Oilers. Rest of the teams are pretty shit
Colorado is a fairly good team.
@@richfl1969 colorado is in the central division, not west
4:11 Oh look its Squidward in 1992. Didn't know he used to be apart of hockey
The Ottawa Senators Bungled so the Bungles could -Bungle + or - Bungle² - 4AC/2A
(-bungle +/- sqrt(bungle^2-4ac))/2a
In the Senators case, they’re part of a matrix of bungling that involves the Clippers, Lions, Browns 2.0, Texans, Hornets 2.0, Mariners, Bengals, & Blue Jackets
You’re telling me the Sens franchise started with an out of battery laptop?
They makes sense, Only my team would do that
Hey history is sometimes stranger than fiction.
The Boston Patriots started out with bedsheets used for projectors since they were too cheap to use actual film room.
@@ReflectionOfPerfection Boston Patriots? You mean New England
@@tgs2141 They were originally the Boston Patriots
Wow, Sonic CD music? Also missed opportunity not doing a Canadian heritage minute
@Harry Engel I believe the first he uses is Palmtree Panic Bad Future.
@Harry Engel very beginning. Listen carefully.
Last time I was this early Ottawa was proud to be a team
At least they ain’t the leafs
Is anybody else surprised that this year's Eastern Conference Championship series is a rematch of last year's between the Lightning and the Islanders?
Kinda
I was hoping Carolina would make it to the finals so I could hear Hurricanes man
It was going to be either Washington or the Islanders. The Lightning being there is expected. They SHOULD have been there and anything less would have been a disappointment.
Not surprised about Lightning but I thought the Bruins would be their opponent.
This channel is perfect for me. Video game music, humor and hockey
You need to do this with the Atlanta Thrashers. Patrick Stefan robbed the franchise
Too bad Winnipeg has our genes of fucking up in the playoffs
Maybe the Florida Panthers. He really likes that team from the 90's
Stefan was damaged goods by that point with concussions. I always see the big bust from that draft as Pavel Brendl. So lazy that former NHL player Jeff O’Neill, who played over 800 games in the league, named a dog he had Pavel Brendl!
Tree needs to do a video or two on the NHL's failed experiments in Atlanta with the Flames and Thrashers at some point.
The Thrashers would be a very interesting topic for the future. They've been on the list of things to do for a while now.
The dirty talk during the laptop segment made this legendary. Thank you for this bounty!
IIRC, the original name of the Senators’ home arena was The Palladium.
Yes. Original name of their current home.
They played at the "low ceiling" Ottawa Civic Centre from 92 to 96
@@otaviofrn_adv Is The Civic Centre still the home of the Ottawa 67's?
@@edalder2000 yes it is
3:45 Never thought I would hear the Sleech Brothers' music from Nickelodeon's Doug be used in a video.
The Ottawa Senators Preseason Odds to win the Stanley Cup their first season was +500000. Those have to be the longest odds I've ever seen for anything.
I see a Tree video, I click. Very simple.
same tho lol
The '91 expansion draft was pretty nutty too; for one thing the two new teams that'd be taking players were the San Jose Sharks and... Minnesota North Stars. Yes, the Stars had already existed for 23 years by that point, and were the defending Campbell Conference Champions to boot, but with the Gund family wanting to move back to the Bay Area, the league wouldn't let them take the team with them, wanting to keep them in Minnesota. So, they let the Gunds sell the Stars and buy a new team in San Jose, the Sharks, as a compromise; effectively undoing the Stars merger with the Gund-owned Cleveland Barons in 1978. (The Stars of course moved 2 years later anyways due to the incompetence of Norm Green, so that worked out well!)
So first the North Stars protected most of their NHL roster, leaving the Sharks to pick from table scraps and prospects, then both teams picked one borderline NHLer from every other team. For whatever reason though, perhaps a bug or oversight of some sort, among the draft pool was each team's _voluntary retired or ineligible lists,_ in some cases including players who had retired over a decade prior. (Just as one example, among the retired/ineligible players that North Stars GM Bob Clarke could have picked in that draft was *himself,* from the Flyers.) The closest either team actually came to taking one of those players was the Stars wasting the final pick of the draft on Guy Lafleur, who would retire that same offseason, from Quebec because to quote GM Clarke, "there was nobody left".
In the subsequent season the North Stars actually _improved_ by 2 points over their previous record, but couldn't turn it into another Cinderella run, bowing out in the first round of the playoffs to Detroit. The Sharks meanwhile, won just 17 games in their first season then just 11 (with 71 losses) in their 2nd, setting new lows for expansion futility that wouldn't be matched until... well, the Ottawa Senators the very next year. (in 92-93 the Sharks and Senators _tied_ for last place in the NHL with *24* points each.)
The lesson here, always charge your laptop battery.
6:31 Ottawa at least doesn't have to apologize for that rad bassline
Man, so the Expansion Draft for them was only very very slightly better than the Expansion Draft for the Flyers, Penguins, and others coming in when the Original Six expanded into twelve teams.
The difference there was that all of the expansion teams were in their own division.
@@AEMoreira81 True enough, but it guaranteed one of the Original Six winning the Cup the first few years, since none of the Expansion Teams could even remotely hold a candle to the Six the first few years. The Canadiens and Bruins both effortlessly obliterated the Blues in three consecutive sweeps, and it wasn't until the '73-'74 season that the first Expansion team, the Flyers, won the Cup over the Bruins, then again in '74-'75 over another Expansion team in the Sabres.
When Tree is talking about that laptop, why do I have flashbacks to Strong Bad talking about his Compè laptop?
1992: "Ottawa apologizes"
2018: "We're a team?"
They are apologizing for even being a team.
I’m not a hockey fan, but this is one of a few videos from Tree that I can’t stop watching. Well done 👍
I'm not gonna lie... Everyone in Ottawa apologizes like crazy. It's some sort of disease here.
It's a Canadian thing
It’s because we’re a government town…
I hope this becomes a series right towards their ascension to respectability and a top team of the conference in the 2000s!
The Senators do make for fine material for fun, memes and hockey stuff.
And people say Anaheim's first game festivities were cringey, at least we had the excuse of being associated with Disney
We Ducks fans don’t dare speak of that night
@@Jonesyful10 i mean at least wild wing repelling down from the rafters was fun
My dad didn't know how bad the previous expansion drafts were so I showed him this video. This is great content!
I was literally just thinking when the next Sens video would be lol
Wasn’t even born at the time and I already feel depressed Tree made a video on the Sens (at least we became better, I guess?)
I’m a sens fan and I had no idea about this so I thank you and seeing how in the past few years how bad Ottawa has been well now I don’t feel as bad lol
You know Tree’s got something extra special planned for the Bruins when he puts out something completely different on the day we expect the conglaturation (sic) video to drop.
I'll admit I've not dug into the cesspool of the area outside T&R but are they doing the predictably boring "Shit on Rask" dance again?
When it was another case of "What is Defense?", "Scoring 5 on 5 is overrated", "Scoring Depth what's that" and the ever popular "Just give up in an elimination game"
The team needs major change and for once they have money to do it. Don't fuck it up Don. Get younger AND better even if it costs '22, the team just isn't good enough to win a Cup, Tampa would have slaughtered the Bs if they managed to get past the Islanders
Liked for the use of music from "Doug."
Haha the music from Doug was excellent!
2:34 MORE SHINING FORCE 2 OST!!!
So this draft was the equivalent of someone going into Dodongo's Cavern for the first time, burning their shield, and having to drag ass back to the store to buy another?
Yeah well...
...
...
The Lightning got better.
(THUNDERDOME, BABY)
5:50. Holy crap, their goal differential was minus 193.
The pain of that 92 season would be rewarded with Alexander Daigle at 1st Overall at the 93 Draft. One of the biggest draft busts in NHL History. The bad luck continued.
And according to him, "No one remembers who was number 2"
Number 2 pick that year was Chris Pronger.
Is it just me, or does Mel Bridgman look a lot like Eugene Levy? Also, nothing wrong with a bit of goonery, as long as there's talent along with it.
Bridgman was a skilled player as well. Solid career, if some think that he could've been more than what he was.
@@UrinatingTree Yep, Bridgman was a very good player.
@Harry Engel Mel Bridgman was a forward.
@Harry Engel Center. A gritty one at that.
Hell I think a remember a 94-95 season game were they lost 9-0 to a very strong Nordiques teams. It took Ottawa several to just not suck.
Leave it to Tree to make an LGR commercial in a video about the Ottawa Senators.
1:57 Tree describing a laptop was all I wanted today. Can Abearica mine with that
Maybe he could mine a penny. Anything beyond is punching above the HD capacity
When can we expect the AB Album stream tree? 😁
Lol if I know anything, probably not anytime soon.
I think Tree is gonna use a challenge flag of sorts, lol
Tree is too concerned with copyright strikes
Ask Chiseled
@@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Adonis ain’t scared of any strike. Mans linked the mayweateher Paul and undercards. A true man of the people
@@ronnickels5193 That too
Looking back at what we had for laptop computers in 1992... I'm amazed we had an Internet economic boom at all. /cries
Tree, I honestly look up to your content.
I've found it to be so genuinely reliable that almost any video you make on any team reveals itself to be pure truth.
Truthfully before I make any sort of prediction or comment about any team in any sport, I think "what would Tree say?" and it usually works out.
I can't say it's original but I can complement the hell out of you; it's not just the outlooks, it's the way you word it that makes it feel so accurate. As an aspiring writer it's beyond impressive. Keep this up man.
Oh my god, that ceremony. How is that ‘92? That’s so 80’s it hurts.
“We’re a team”
Another great video as always from the one and only, UrinatingTree! Great job dude!
imagine if the senators never left in the first place. they left in 1934 and by then they already had won 11 cups.
I knew that team sucked, but I never heard about that laptop thing. Not even in passing. That's insane.
Morale of the story "Ottawa Apologizes"
"Oh brother! This guy stinks!"
Sounds like Canadian Politics these days.
@@UrinatingTree as an Ottawa native, I can, unfortunately, confirm
That home opener spectacle is the most hilarious thing ever
You can't make up such ineptitude. Never mind humble beginnings, the Ottawa Senators had horrific beginnings.
Please do one on the 1992 Tampa Bay Lightning
The last time I clicked this fast the Leafs had a 3 games to 1 series lead
Who remembers nhlpa 93 for Super Nintendo? And if so do you remember the ratings The Players had on the Ottawa Senators? Darren Rumble had an overall rating of 2 Peter sidorkiewicz overall 40 the team had a number one overall ranking I remember Sullivan turgeon was the highest-ranked player at like a number 55?
3:28 imagine going from a dynasty team with Wayne Gretzky and then getting send to Ottawa
This has nothing to do with this video, but my God i hate the revisionist history about how the Golden Knights got a sick team coming out of the expansion draft. This was nowhere near the truth when the draft happened. They were picked to be the worst or 2nd worst team in the NHL by everyone and they shocked the world by all the way to the cup final and have continued to be successful since. People thinking the Kraken are going to be good immiediatley forget this or choose to ignore it. The original Golden Knights were never supposed to be what they turned into.
Nobody thought the Knights were going to be any good out of the expansion draft. Nobody. If anyone did, I will eat my non-existent hat.
@@UrinatingTree people on Twitter (and I know thats not saying much) act like the Knights made out like kings and they were always going to be good. You see parts of it bleed over to other hockey argument circles like the people that say the Pens should've never cut Fleury despite him looking washed up and a clear number 2 before going to Vegas. It's revisionist history.
Were they way better than any previous expansion team on paper? Yes. But they were still seen as a bottom tier team entering the season and it seems like people forget that. I just hope people don't unironically expect a playoff birth for the Kraken for their inaugural season
@@UrinatingTree and to be clear, im not saying nobody thought the knights were going to be good in the moment. Im saying that people make out like the Knights were always going to be good in hindsight because they see how good players like Karlsson, Miller, and Tuch turned out to be among others.
Imagine if Ottawa and Tampa Bay could have gotten the same Expansion Draft process as Vegas and Seattle, or even Minnesota and Columbus?
One of Ottawa's longest standing records was most points by a defenceman in franchise history; Norm Maciver with 63 from that inaugural 1992-1993 Season. It only took until some guy named Erik Karlsson to come along to finally best it with 78 in 2011-2012.
Alexa, play the song that goes “whoo-hoo!”
hey a tree video during playoff season! sup man. love your work
I want to see Urinating Tree crap on Leafsnet
As a Sens fan since 93... I apologize. lol. The mere fact that we haven't folded and are still more successful than the Leafs since is awesome though. But that's like bragging about smelling better than a turd.
@Matt Joseph Brodeur was insane. NJ was worse than others for us... Though Buffalo was out biggest rival, those bench clears were great.
Me: It's 10:25 pm where I live I should go to bed.
*Urinatingtree uploads
Me: Sleep? What the fuck is that?
He used music from Doug! 😃😃 and I can't wait for Seattle's draft.
Absolutely amazing. Please do more of these.
Now I wonder how the Seattle expansion draft will go this year
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Seriously this content is really entertaining. Haters guide and sportsball are cool, but I really like to hear these stories I’ve never heard before