Recently bought myself the 2022 125cc version. Same colour.. a little under powered uphill. . But sits at 70mph very comfortably... top speed is 78 on the limiter nearly But very good as I do delivery's and don't feel any fatigue from it 😁
Still love mine. Took it out for 100k’s the other day in the cold and rain. I will probably fit the givi screen and deflectors as well as the Honda heated grips. As I plan to do some longer trips after Christmas (depending on COVID) but I fancy a trip over to Germany or perhaps even a bit further.
I hear a lot, that there is a long delivery time. I must have been lucky. I just walked in and bought the one on the show room floor. They had 4 at the time. So it only took a day or two and I collected it. Great bike in my opinion. Have fun with yours and stay safe. 👍
Thank you! Really one of the best reviews for this 350, and you got the best color imho! I wish you could demonstrate the Bluetooth functions Ride safe
I should be doing a 1 years owners review in the next few weeks. I am still very happy with mine. I know how to fix the sticking fuel flap as well now. ;)
Brilliant Dean, thanks for the review, please keep them coming. I've ordered the same bike and colour, can't wait for it to arrive. Not sure what to do about the top box though weather to go for the honda one or givi? I must say yours looks great with the matching top box.
The Honda top box looks much more secure from break ins. ( in my opinion) it is massive though. (They do a smaller option I believe) but having it mounted on the Honda mount and it being keyless entry are both very good points to consider. The build quality is also high.
We haven't had a very competitive Japanese scooter line up over 150cc's in the U.S. for years now but maybe with the higher cost of gasoline nowadays that will help with importing them into the country again, in the meantime I'm happy with my 1996 Honda Helix.
Two things --- It is possible for a strong wind to blow it forwards off the side stand, so a parking brake is needed. I made a metal clip for the rear brake lever, there´s also a velcro belt which does the job. The Bluetooth pod under the left handlebar can foul your knee, locking the steering, and your leg. Otherwise it is a fine machine, after a lifetime of interesting motorcycles.
I admit that that control unit under the bar is a waste of time. I will never use it myself. And I always park the bike on the centre stand, as that way you can start it and leave it to run and warm up a little while you put your kit on etc. So I have not had an issue with the side stand. (As you say, a Velcro strap is all it takes)
I am still very much loving my Forza. Getting the itch for some thing faster again though. But I will keep the Forza, even if I do buy a bigger bike again!! It is just that good..
Good review thanks. I'm torn between this and the ADV350 as a 2nd bike to my GS. Do 20K miles a year. That's over £1200 for Michelin Road 5's/6's so want something like this to balance things up for city/shorter trips. Cheers
Hi there, I ride a BMW r1200r roadster and this Honda forza 350……I actually prefer the Honda!lol. I’ve ridden big bikes for 40 years and this is my first scooter- don’t know why I didn’t buy one sooner! I’ve looked at the ADV, however the electric screen is SO useful on the Forza that the advantages of the ADV wouldn’t compensate for the terrific screen. The scooter is economical and fun to ride with just enough power to keep me happy. Hope this helps you make your decision - I definitely have not regretted my purchase!
Great shout to increase the screen as the noise is deafening with the windscreen fully up. If I crouch by 4 inches its silent so will add a new extension asap. ta The bloody fuel cap........
We are almost the same in height. I don’t find it cramped. And there is 3 positions you can put for feet in. Central, forward(upwards of you like) and also back. So there is loads of room to move about. As I say in the vid, 1 and a 1/2 to 2 hours and you will want a rest in any case.
Thinking about one of these. But I have three questions. Firstly the seat height (780mm). I am 5 feet 6 inches/168cm. I am concerned that it will be a bit of a stretch getting my feet on the ground, especially with the wide seat. Secondly, some reviews have said the rear suspension is hard and non-adjustable. Is this so? I like a softer suspension. And thirdly is the info display hard to see in bright sunlight? It looks like it might be.
1. You will need to test ride it for height. As it has such a wide seat that you may struggle to put your feet down. 2 the suspension isn't the best. You don't want it too soft. It is adjustable for compression on the rear. 3 The screen is excellent and always visible.
@@dean-does-stuff Thanks for the advice. Years ago I had a Peugeot Elyseo 125 that had a seat height of 800mm and a wide seat and I managed OK but that was a lot lighter. Years later I had a Honda SH300. 805mm seat height but a narrow seat. I will have to try it and see what I think.
Tbh I am not sure it’s worth it. If you are talking about the occasional day trip, as long as the pre load is turned to the highest setting, and you ride with in the bikes capabilities, there really is no need. You have to remember that this bike isn’t really designed for 2 up touring. It is a daily commuter. If you plan to use it for big touring then I would look at the t max or the 750 Honda. My money would be on the t max. I haven’t seen any rear suspension upgrades that look to be a genuine upgrade, so you would need to look to finding a suspension specialist. Simply not worth the money to me…
Hi, I'm in Thailand and have owned one for a year now and have done about 7000 kms and agree with your views on the bike. I've not had the fuel flap problem though, my only complaint is the front forks are not very good on bumpy roads. But apart from that its a great all rounder.
I know another guy that has one in Thailand, (he also has some TH-cam videos on his bike) he has had issues with the rear shocks and the other things as well. I am 100% sure that the euro bikes and not the same quality as the ones available in your area of the world. I would say that the bikes over here are over all a better build quality.
@yumpladukfoo my bike in dollars would have been around $9000. But the Netherlands is the most expensive country in Europe for buying cars/bikes. We also earn much more to compensate. Not to mention that the quality of the roads is also very very high.
Thanks for the video Dean. A maxi scooter is an itch that I feel I must scratch sometime. How did you find going from a motorcycle (you mentioned a GS) to a scooter? They are much more popular on mainland EU and for good reason I am sure.
Hi Ray, I have had lots of bikes over the past 20 years. Many of them big bmws, including LT, k1300s, GS and GSA. Although I do love the big bikes (especially the twins) I just get so annoyed by the massive running costs. I spent 6 years on scooters commuting to London in my early 20’s, and I decided that a bigger scooter could be a solution. I have to say, I am loving it. I can highly recommend maxi scooters. 👍
Thanks Dean. I love my motorcycles but I can also appreciate the practicality of the maxi scooter for commuting and day to day errands. Those that have them appear to find them fun to ride too. I’m with you on costs. I’ve had a few litre bikes but now I stick to the midsize bikes as they are more economical to run (fuel & tires) and maintenance costs are lower.
@@GS-xg4nz No, I sold it quite a while back, main reasons were the high costs to keep it. Here in the netherlands every thing is just so expensive. The gsa was my dream bike for many years, and i have had one now, so i am a bit over it tbh. Looking to the future I do like the look of the honda NT1100
What capacity is the top box? Looks good with a powered screen and a comfortable seating position. Engine power and drive seems ok. Thanks for the review👍
Hi Dean, is that the pearl grey colour. Not seen one but have it on back order but looks a bit green ish in the video, was hoping it to be very grey when I ordered it.
When you say ‘very grey’ what does that mean exactly? I can assure you that the color of my bike can not be mistaken for any shade of green how ever. 👍 It is a light grey and I believe it has a slight metallic in the paint. .
Hello. I have a question, do you have a navigation display above the clocks or some other indicator? What model is it and where can I buy it. Thanks for the answer
The cubby locks when the bike locks. In the O or steering lock positions. The top box also locks in the same fashion. The top box can only be removed with the actual metal key that comes with the bike. It can then be opened with the small button underneath when it is on the bike. It just clicks closed. It is actually a very good design as far as security goes. In my opinion. (But obviously, if some one wants to get in, they will)
what is the name of that GPS thingy you got on the dash ? i don't like having my phone dangling from a suspiciously flimsy-looking plastic clamp screwed to the rear view mirror stem and i'd like to change that.
Very nice informative video! How powerful is the engine? I mean 329ccm and 29.5hp, is that enough compared with the Weight? I actually Drive a 2008 Yamaha majesty 400 with 395ccm and 34hp
Once the engine frees up, it is actually a very quick little bike. Not really a long distance tourer, but for long commutes and daily riding, it’s amazing. I rode from the Netherlands to the uk a number of time on it. Sadly I have just sold the Forza, to make way for a new ktm 890 smt. That will be coming home with me in 3 weeks time 👍
@@dean-does-stuff thanks For the quick answer. I am From Germany/Dortmund. Do you understand German? I search For daily use to Work. My 400 majesty is very good For Long distance but For short distance to Big for my opinion.
@@manonamission3379 I hardly speak Dutch 😂 so no good at German. I think the Forza is the best of the bunch with the exception of the T max. But then that is in another price league. In town it is pretty good, and super fast off the lights. But if you are only in the city and never leave it. Then a 125 is best. Smaller and lighter and still plenty of go off the lights.
@@dean-does-stuff i Had a 125 Honda Dylan For 7 Years. It was ok but the 400 Yamaha majesty is another Level. Very comfortable but a little bit to big. I think a 350 Forza is the best Scooter For me. Thank you For your time👍
@@dean-does-stuff Gisteren ben ik naar Goedhart motoren geweest maar hij had er geen een. De verkoper zei dat ze mondjesmaat maar naar Nederland komen. BenJan in Ridderkerk/Overkampmotoren uit Delft had er ook geen een. Ik woon vlakbij Rotterdam.
@@fredg5483 that’s a shame. I live in Gouda, so they are my closest shop. Any way, I am sure you will get your hands on one soon enough. I am still loving mine. I will take it out on Dinsdag, as the weather looks to be fijn 😎
@@canadian1512 no. I have not experienced that. Infact, I would say that my bike is getting better with age. 2 years old now and 13,000 kilometers. My advice is change the oil every 6000k.. as that made a big difference. Suspension is a week area on the Forza, but that is due to it being built to a budget. That said, for a single rider it holds up very well.
I live in the netherlands and i have made a number of trips to the uk. That is 5 to 6 hours riding, with the ferry in the middle that breaks up the ride. I had no issues at all. Only thing i will say is that the fuel consumption is quite high if you max it out on the motor way. Better to stick to a more realistic 65 to 70 mph.
I have answered this before. Basically any bike can be toured on. The thing that lets it down will be fuel consumption. At 60mph, you can get pretty ok mpg, but in reality, if you are riding at 70/75, you would be better to get a larger bike. Like the 750nc Honda for example.
You can buy Honda heated grips that are inter grated into the dash. But if you want heated seat then you will need to go after market. Actually, pretty easy to do that your self. You just need a staple gun to re fit the seat cover. The battery is right below the front of the seat, so would be super easy to wire it up and put a small switch down by the filler cap. (I would say)
Battery voltage would actually be hand as you'd know when the battery is starting to fail.so you could get it seen to before you're left with a non starting scooter due to a flat battery
Great review, all the bits i wanted to see. We have gone down to one car and i want something for those odd occasssions i need to pop out and cant cycle. This looks like a great option. Do you know what you paid for it with the box?
Hi Jay, unfortunately I now live in the Netherlands and over here we have some thing called bpm, (a tax on things classed as luxury, such as cars, boats and motorbikes etc) because of the tax here, the bike cost €7700, and that is far higher than the Uk prices. I believe that the bike is around the £5000 mark in the uk. So I can’t say what the price was in uk pounds. I can say that it is a great bike with a ton of storage. 👍
I drilled and pop riveted it to the area that you see it in the video. I figured, when I come to sell it, I will simply give the beeline with the bike..
Hi, Thanks for the compliment. I actually sold the Forza and is now replaced with a KTM 890 SMT ( brand new as of 3 weeks ago). The reason I bought the Forza qt the time, was that I wasn't totally sure how much I was still feeling the motor biking vibes, and wanted some thing cheap (ish) that would allow me to get out on 2 wheels. As it happened, I really loved that bike, but was craving the bigger bikes I am well versed with from my long biking career. This all said, I am missing the scooter already, and have my eye on the TMAX 560, and will likely get one next year to go along side the KTM.
@@dean-does-stuff wow, interesting, I don't know much about motorbikes, I have a yamaha neos 50cc 4 stroke( no laughing please 😁) I hope to get something bigger someday, but I'll have to apply for a licence. I can drive the 50cc without a motorbike licence cause I have a full car licence. If I was going to buy a big bike I'd buy a 2024 Honda shadow phantom 750cc, but sadly can only get them in USA..I love the design, I like how the engine and exhaust are blacked out, I dislike chrome its too 80s..
@@jonathanmellish4439 I think the 3 cm, will make some difference though. I am not sure if you will flat foot with out shifting a little forward on the seat. But I don’t think it’s a deal breaker if you can’t flat foot a bike. I have had a gs adventure amongst other very tall bikes, and never had any real issues.
Just bought one of these bikes but I'm putting a sidecar on it so I haven't even ridden it yet. I'm handicapped and I have a balance problem so that sidecar will make it drive flat. Just have to slow down when making a turn.
I hate the electronic key entry; I would prefer a normal key. I do not like stepped seat; I prefer a bench seat because it is not unusual for 3 or even 4 to be on a motorbike in Thailand. Nice storage areas though. Being a HondaI I bet it will be relaible.
@@dean-does-stuff I do not have one. I am a English expat and live in Thailand. The PCX 150 looks very similar in design and is very popular with wealthier Thais. I do not like the riding position and the wheel base is too long and the turning circle is small so not much good for filtering through traffic in Bangkok. I would prefer a Honda Scoopy 110cc or Honda Click 125cc or Honda Wave in Thailand. Have a look at "Mo ToBike" on TH-cam. I also have a Honda Rebel 500 which is good for my Thai secretary to ride because she is only 5 feet tall.
@@johntheaccountant5594 well, you have answered your own points really. This style of scooter is simply not good for what you want. I used to have gilera runner 125sp’s when I was younger. Nothing (accept the virgin bike taxi’s) could keep with me in the traffic. But the 350 Forza is not (in my opinion) a city basher. It is for the open road/ longer distance commuting and light touring. The keyless system is actually very good on this bike tbh. There are one or two bad bits, but I have to say, it’s one of the best motor bikes I have owned yet. And I have owned over 65 bikes. I love it 👍
@@dean-does-stuff If we all liked and drove the same motorbike, life would be boring. I think for what you want in Holland, that Forza is ideal. I am nearly 60 and I am actually into simplicity now (no driving aides and electronic gizmos). The bikes I find desirable is the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650, Honda CRF300L (142,000 baht = £3,155 on the road), Honda 350 Royal Highness and if wealthy like the Honda CB1100 EX or RS for that smooth four. I would consider buying a Honda CB560R but don't like the stepped seat for pillion.
@@johntheaccountant5594 the Netherlands is one of the most expensive countries for buying motor bikes and cars. In the uk this bike is around 5000 pounds. It is 7700 euros in the Netherlands. Due to high taxes on luxury goods. Fuel is currently €2 per liter as well.
Hi, unfortunately here in the Netherlands in the shop I got mine, the bike was only available with the box. Also the prices here are much higher than any where else so it is not possible for me to know the cost to you where you are. Uk price is £5,800 and I paid €7,800 here in the Netherlands.
I think you mean; the top box? 🤔. I am over in the Netherlands and these bikes come as standard with the top box, so I couldn’t tell you how much it cost I am afraid. Sorry
@@dean-does-stuff thanks for the reply. I might be colour blind. 😁 I'm ordering one tomorrow and I see there is a mat cynos gray metallic and a pearl falcon gray, I can't tell which is which 🙆♂️
How ever much power you have, you always want more. 😉 If I am honest, I think that this bike has enough power. It is a nice balance between performance and economy in my opinion. It is just fast enough but not excessive. It has a massive range considering it has around 11 liters of fuel….
@@SuperFory I suspect that my front tire will be able to cover 30,000 kilometers before it needs to be changed. I doubt I will manage that in the time I own it as I will be getting a new bike in 2 years time. So for that reason I doubt I will get the chance to test that theory. Thanks for the info though
No trouble for me as I have had a full license for over 20 years. But, they do a 125cc version that looks exactly the same, and you can ride it once passing a CBT in the uk, with L plates. 👍
@@dean-does-stuff Yeah, the 125cc honda forza is very popular. But for me i think it is not the best option if you want to practise for a full licence. Because the HF 125cc does not have a clutch that the rider needs to use. And the full licence test is done with bikes with clutch, where you have to change the gears yourself. I think this is why I see plenty of 125cc scooter owners that are still carrying an L plate on a renewable 2 year cbt licence 10 years later...
@@ToxicVaccines_HivHoax I did my cbt 3 times. It used to last 3 years at a time. And I rode over 100,000 miles in that time all on scooters. Then passed my full license when I was 23. I had no issue with gears at all. It really is very easy.
@@dean-does-stuff - That is good to know because I do prefer the Forza because it looks very practical all around bike and I get the impression it gives better protection from weather conditions.
@@ToxicVaccines_HivHoax well, in 125 or 350, I think it is a fantastic bike. I have had all types of bikes, big/ small, fast/ slow, etc and after years of riding big BMW’s, I can honestly say, I love my Forza. Almost as much as a gsa.. certainly cheaper to buy and own than a massive bmw. That’s for sure
yes, I do mention the placing of the controls in this video. You do get used to it, but it is more instinctive to have the buttons in a different configuration.
The top box is very well made. The Honda mount is very well constructed and fits well to the bike. The integrated keyless entry is also very well thought through. The box it’s self looks to be designed around in bike security and it does look like it would hold up to a considerable attack. The internal size and shape lends its self to having 2 full face helmets. But is well suited to carry all types of luggage. I would recommend it over any after market box. 👍
@@dean-does-stuff Alright, thanks for the short review, but I hope you will make this short review in video. By the way, greetings from Indonesia, I am Momo, I am also a Honda Forza user but with a different engine cubication from yours, because the regulations are quite strict and complicated in my country when the motorcycle exceeds a capacity of 250cc.
Recently bought myself the 2022 125cc version. Same colour.. a little under powered uphill. . But sits at 70mph very comfortably... top speed is 78 on the limiter nearly
But very good as I do delivery's and don't feel any fatigue from it 😁
Excellent roundup Dean, made my mind up for me, many thanks.
Still love mine. Took it out for 100k’s the other day in the cold and rain. I will probably fit the givi screen and deflectors as well as the Honda heated grips. As I plan to do some longer trips after Christmas (depending on COVID) but I fancy a trip over to Germany or perhaps even a bit further.
Good review Dean. I have my blue Forza 350 since September 3rd (very long delivery time). It is a very nice scooter and I am very satisfied with it.
I hear a lot, that there is a long delivery time. I must have been lucky. I just walked in and bought the one on the show room floor. They had 4 at the time. So it only took a day or two and I collected it.
Great bike in my opinion. Have fun with yours and stay safe. 👍
Nicely Done. Mine is half your mileage ..enjoying it. Merv Australia
Looking forward to these arriving in the US will be my next choice. Also one of the only top boxes that doesn’t seem out of place on it
Thank you! Really one of the best reviews for this 350, and you got the best color imho!
I wish you could demonstrate the Bluetooth functions
Ride safe
Thanks, I am planning a couple more videos on this bike. The weather isn’t the best at the moment. Thanks for watching 💪
25 k views! Great review
Thank you for your review I’m just about ready to buy one 👍
I should be doing a 1 years owners review in the next few weeks. I am still very happy with mine. I know how to fix the sticking fuel flap as well now. ;)
Love the colour of your one.
Great work Dean - Scooters Rock!
Nice of you to take the time to look me up. Hope you have an amazing day 💪
Great review thanks
Brilliant Dean, thanks for the review, please keep them coming. I've ordered the same bike and colour, can't wait for it to arrive. Not sure what to do about the top box though weather to go for the honda one or givi? I must say yours looks great with the matching top box.
The Honda top box looks much more secure from break ins. ( in my opinion) it is massive though. (They do a smaller option I believe) but having it mounted on the Honda mount and it being keyless entry are both very good points to consider. The build quality is also high.
We haven't had a very competitive Japanese scooter line up over 150cc's in the U.S. for years now but maybe with the higher cost of gasoline nowadays that will help with importing them into the country again, in the meantime I'm happy with my 1996 Honda Helix.
So cool!👍
Two things ---
It is possible for a strong wind to blow it forwards off the side stand, so a parking brake is needed.
I made a metal clip for the rear brake lever, there´s also a velcro belt which does the job.
The Bluetooth pod under the left handlebar can foul your knee, locking the steering, and your leg.
Otherwise it is a fine machine, after a lifetime of interesting motorcycles.
I admit that that control unit under the bar is a waste of time. I will never use it myself. And I always park the bike on the centre stand, as that way you can start it and leave it to run and warm up a little while you put your kit on etc. So I have not had an issue with the side stand. (As you say, a Velcro strap is all it takes)
Possible, park It out of the Winds way windy can be harsh. 🎉 🎉 🎉
Awesome review, thanks for all 🤝🏼
I am still very much loving my Forza. Getting the itch for some thing faster again though. But I will keep the Forza, even if I do buy a bigger bike again!! It is just that good..
I was thinking about purchasing it and your review was so complete that I’m sure about my choice. Thanks for all 🙏🏼
@@bullsy1277 i believe it is the best in its class for the money. For all weather it could do with the taller screen and heated grips. 👍
I alteady thought about adding the heating grips, I will see later for a taller screen if needed 😉
@@bullsy1277 I have one. It is worth it for long trips
Good review, Cheers Dean
My bike is tucked up for the winter now. But I am planning some bigger rides next year. Poland is on my list.
Good review thanks.
Cheers Colin 👍 I found it difficult to see a good review in English, so decided to do one myself. Thanks for watching 💪
Nice scooter 👍
Good review thanks. I'm torn between this and the ADV350 as a 2nd bike to my GS. Do 20K miles a year. That's over £1200 for Michelin Road 5's/6's so want something like this to balance things up for city/shorter trips. Cheers
The adv looks good, but for the motor way i think the Forza is best because of that screen.
Hi there, I ride a BMW r1200r roadster and this Honda forza 350……I actually prefer the Honda!lol.
I’ve ridden big bikes for 40 years and this is my first scooter- don’t know why I didn’t buy one sooner!
I’ve looked at the ADV, however the electric screen is SO useful on the Forza that the advantages of the ADV wouldn’t compensate for the terrific screen.
The scooter is economical and fun to ride with just enough power to keep me happy.
Hope this helps you make your decision - I definitely have not regretted my purchase!
Great shout to increase the screen as the noise is deafening with the windscreen fully up. If I crouch by 4 inches its silent so will add a new extension asap. ta The bloody fuel cap........
Thank you for English review!! ❤️ 😘 I’m 5’9 not sure how i sit comfy on it. The floor board is it far enough for me to stretch my legs?
We are almost the same in height. I don’t find it cramped. And there is 3 positions you can put for feet in. Central, forward(upwards of you like) and also back. So there is loads of room to move about. As I say in the vid, 1 and a 1/2 to 2 hours and you will want a rest in any case.
i'm 6' and way cramped; I like 15 cm or 6 in. longer to stretch out.
Thinking about one of these. But I have three questions. Firstly the seat height (780mm). I am 5 feet 6 inches/168cm. I am concerned that it will be a bit of a stretch getting my feet on the ground, especially with the wide seat. Secondly, some reviews have said the rear suspension is hard and non-adjustable. Is this so? I like a softer suspension. And thirdly is the info display hard to see in bright sunlight? It looks like it might be.
1. You will need to test ride it for height. As it has such a wide seat that you may struggle to put your feet down. 2 the suspension isn't the best. You don't want it too soft. It is adjustable for compression on the rear. 3 The screen is excellent and always visible.
@@dean-does-stuff Thanks for the advice. Years ago I had a Peugeot Elyseo 125 that had a seat height of 800mm and a wide seat and I managed OK but that was a lot lighter. Years later I had a Honda SH300. 805mm seat height but a narrow seat. I will have to try it and see what I think.
Thank you....from what you said, with a pillion rider and luggage (sometimes) would it be worth swapping out the rear shocks for something better?
Tbh I am not sure it’s worth it. If you are talking about the occasional day trip, as long as the pre load is turned to the highest setting, and you ride with in the bikes capabilities, there really is no need. You have to remember that this bike isn’t really designed for 2 up touring. It is a daily commuter. If you plan to use it for big touring then I would look at the t max or the 750 Honda. My money would be on the t max. I haven’t seen any rear suspension upgrades that look to be a genuine upgrade, so you would need to look to finding a suspension specialist. Simply not worth the money to me…
Need more leg room to be considered. Removeable seat cushion or blocked footpads to be removeable
Hi, I'm in Thailand and have owned one for a year now and have done about 7000 kms and agree with your views on the bike. I've not had the fuel flap problem though, my only complaint is the front forks are not very good on bumpy roads. But apart from that its a great all rounder.
I know another guy that has one in Thailand, (he also has some TH-cam videos on his bike) he has had issues with the rear shocks and the other things as well. I am 100% sure that the euro bikes and not the same quality as the ones available in your area of the world. I would say that the bikes over here are over all a better build quality.
Yes i have watched his vlogs as well (red cowboy media). Forza 350's are quite popular here.
@@searcherfor9 that’s the guy yes. I was one of his first subscribers ;)
@yumpladukfoo my bike in dollars would have been around $9000.
But the Netherlands is the most expensive country in Europe for buying cars/bikes.
We also earn much more to compensate. Not to mention that the quality of the roads is also very very high.
have an old 300; but same problem with short leg room ; need the flat seat to stretch out.
Thanks for the video Dean. A maxi scooter is an itch that I feel I must scratch sometime. How did you find going from a motorcycle (you mentioned a GS) to a scooter? They are much more popular on mainland EU and for good reason I am sure.
Hi Ray, I have had lots of bikes over the past 20 years. Many of them big bmws, including LT, k1300s, GS and GSA. Although I do love the big bikes (especially the twins) I just get so annoyed by the massive running costs. I spent 6 years on scooters commuting to London in my early 20’s, and I decided that a bigger scooter could be a solution. I have to say, I am loving it. I can highly recommend maxi scooters. 👍
Thanks Dean. I love my motorcycles but I can also appreciate the practicality of the maxi scooter for commuting and day to day errands. Those that have them appear to find them fun to ride too. I’m with you on costs. I’ve had a few litre bikes but now I stick to the midsize bikes as they are more economical to run (fuel & tires) and maintenance costs are lower.
@@dean-does-stuff Do you still have your GS too Dean?
@@GS-xg4nz No, I sold it quite a while back, main reasons were the high costs to keep it. Here in the netherlands every thing is just so expensive. The gsa was my dream bike for many years, and i have had one now, so i am a bit over it tbh. Looking to the future I do like the look of the honda NT1100
Me awaiting for Honda Forza 350 launch in India.
What capacity is the top box? Looks good with a powered screen and a comfortable seating position. Engine power and drive seems ok. Thanks for the review👍
It is the Honda oem top box. I believe it is 45 ltr. I have just been out on a 150 k ride, i can highly recommend one 👍
Hi Dean, is that the pearl grey colour. Not seen one but have it on back order but looks a bit green ish in the video, was hoping it to be very grey when I ordered it.
When you say ‘very grey’ what does that mean exactly? I can assure you that the color of my bike can not be mistaken for any shade of green how ever. 👍
It is a light grey and I believe it has a slight metallic in the paint.
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@@dean-does-stuff Was not sure as my monitor makes it look a little green which was a worry. Glad in real life it's not. Thanks for confirming.
@@mc-gl8rx yes, I was going to mention that it might depend on what you are watching it on
Hello. I have a question, do you have a navigation display above the clocks or some other indicator? What model is it and where can I buy it. Thanks for the answer
Hi, If you watch the video all the way through. I mention the device. Skip to the 8 min mark I believe. Thanks for watching..
Does the cubby hole storage lock at all please?
I presume you can’t open the back box or remove it, unless you have the key in proximity?
Thanks
The cubby locks when the bike locks. In the O or steering lock positions.
The top box also locks in the same fashion. The top box can only be removed with the actual metal key that comes with the bike. It can then be opened with the small button underneath when it is on the bike. It just clicks closed. It is actually a very good design as far as security goes. In my opinion. (But obviously, if some one wants to get in, they will)
what is the name of that GPS thingy you got on the dash ?
i don't like having my phone dangling from a suspiciously flimsy-looking plastic clamp screwed to the rear view mirror stem and i'd like to change that.
It’s called a beeline moto.
@@dean-does-stuff thank you.
Very nice informative video! How powerful is the engine? I mean 329ccm and 29.5hp, is that enough compared with the Weight? I actually Drive a 2008 Yamaha majesty 400 with 395ccm and 34hp
Once the engine frees up, it is actually a very quick little bike. Not really a long distance tourer, but for long commutes and daily riding, it’s amazing. I rode from the Netherlands to the uk a number of time on it.
Sadly I have just sold the Forza, to make way for a new ktm 890 smt. That will be coming home with me in 3 weeks time 👍
@@dean-does-stuff thanks For the quick answer. I am From Germany/Dortmund. Do you understand German? I search For daily use to Work. My 400 majesty is very good For Long distance but For short distance to Big for my opinion.
@@manonamission3379 I hardly speak Dutch 😂 so no good at German. I think the Forza is the best of the bunch with the exception of the T max. But then that is in another price league. In town it is pretty good, and super fast off the lights. But if you are only in the city and never leave it. Then a 125 is best. Smaller and lighter and still plenty of go off the lights.
@@dean-does-stuff i Had a 125 Honda Dylan For 7 Years. It was ok but the 400 Yamaha majesty is another Level. Very comfortable but a little bit to big. I think a 350 Forza is the best Scooter For me. Thank you For your time👍
Echt een mooie motor.
De kleur is ook super!
Yes, I think it is the best color for this year model. (It was the only one in the shop, so I didn’t really choose the color 😂)
Ik wilde hem dit weekend kopen maar ze zijn moeilijk te krijgen.
Hebben ze er 10 in de winkel zijn ze dezelfde dag al verkocht!
@@fredg5483 where do you live? I had no issue buying mine from goedhartmotoren. The last time I was there they had them on the showroom floor.
@@dean-does-stuff Gisteren ben ik naar Goedhart motoren geweest maar hij had er geen een.
De verkoper zei dat ze mondjesmaat maar naar Nederland komen.
BenJan in Ridderkerk/Overkampmotoren uit Delft had er ook geen een.
Ik woon vlakbij Rotterdam.
@@fredg5483 that’s a shame. I live in Gouda, so they are my closest shop. Any way, I am sure you will get your hands on one soon enough. I am still loving mine. I will take it out on Dinsdag, as the weather looks to be fijn 😎
Honda is number 1
Hello. Any problem with the posts back and forth ?
What do you mean?
very soft fork and very stiff rear suspension@@dean-does-stuff
@@canadian1512 no. I have not experienced that. Infact, I would say that my bike is getting better with age. 2 years old now and 13,000 kilometers. My advice is change the oil every 6000k.. as that made a big difference. Suspension is a week area on the Forza, but that is due to it being built to a budget. That said, for a single rider it holds up very well.
good nnews @@dean-does-stuff
Hi,
I bought a 300 cc.
Keyless ignition.
What is your opinion on touring with hit? How about 2 to 3 hour trips on a motorway at about 75 - 80 mph ?
I live in the netherlands and i have made a number of trips to the uk. That is 5 to 6 hours riding, with the ferry in the middle that breaks up the ride. I had no issues at all. Only thing i will say is that the fuel consumption is quite high if you max it out on the motor way. Better to stick to a more realistic 65 to 70 mph.
In the States you have to go at least 75 mph, do you think it is too much on the motor for say 3 hours straight?
@@Mike-B. you can do that for sure. (I thought you could only go 55 in the states hahahaha)
Hi would you say that this bike is tour friendly?
I have answered this before. Basically any bike can be toured on. The thing that lets it down will be fuel consumption. At 60mph, you can get pretty ok mpg, but in reality, if you are riding at 70/75, you would be better to get a larger bike. Like the 750nc Honda for example.
Nice to hear your views.. does it have heated seats and handles.. cheers and happy journeys👍
You can buy Honda heated grips that are inter grated into the dash. But if you want heated seat then you will need to go after market. Actually, pretty easy to do that your self. You just need a staple gun to re fit the seat cover. The battery is right below the front of the seat, so would be super easy to wire it up and put a small switch down by the filler cap. (I would say)
Battery voltage would actually be hand as you'd know when the battery is starting to fail.so you could get it seen to before you're left with a non starting scooter due to a flat battery
Well, in my whole time of riding (over 20 years) that has never happened to me 🤷♂️
@@Forester16 yeah, I have always used one over the winters
The forza has battery voltage on the cluster. Also when the battery in the remote is low.. the forza warns you if the battery is low...
Great review, all the bits i wanted to see. We have gone down to one car and i want something for those odd occasssions i need to pop out and cant cycle. This looks like a great option. Do you know what you paid for it with the box?
Hi Jay, unfortunately I now live in the Netherlands and over here we have some thing called bpm, (a tax on things classed as luxury, such as cars, boats and motorbikes etc) because of the tax here, the bike cost €7700, and that is far higher than the Uk prices. I believe that the bike is around the £5000 mark in the uk. So I can’t say what the price was in uk pounds.
I can say that it is a great bike with a ton of storage. 👍
Do you get much by way of vibration through the handlebars or footwells?
No, not that I have noticed.
@@dean-does-stuff Cheers man, thanks.
Watch my video on the rattling that comes from the plastic between the dash and the screen. It shows how to fix that issue. 👍
How have you got the Beeline mounted?
I drilled and pop riveted it to the area that you see it in the video. I figured, when I come to sell it, I will simply give the beeline with the bike..
beautiful looking bike, do you still have it?
Hi, Thanks for the compliment. I actually sold the Forza and is now replaced with a KTM 890 SMT ( brand new as of 3 weeks ago). The reason I bought the Forza qt the time, was that I wasn't totally sure how much I was still feeling the motor biking vibes, and wanted some thing cheap (ish) that would allow me to get out on 2 wheels. As it happened, I really loved that bike, but was craving the bigger bikes I am well versed with from my long biking career. This all said, I am missing the scooter already, and have my eye on the TMAX 560, and will likely get one next year to go along side the KTM.
@@dean-does-stuff wow, interesting, I don't know much about motorbikes, I have a yamaha neos 50cc 4 stroke( no laughing please 😁) I hope to get something bigger someday, but I'll have to apply for a licence. I can drive the 50cc without a motorbike licence cause I have a full car licence. If I was going to buy a big bike I'd buy a 2024 Honda shadow phantom 750cc, but sadly can only get them in USA..I love the design, I like how the engine and exhaust are blacked out, I dislike chrome its too 80s..
Hi. Sorry I may have missed it. What is your height and can you flat foot it ?
I am around 173. And no, the seat is very wide, so I am on top toes.
@@dean-does-stuff thank you. I am 176 so not much taller than you.
@@jonathanmellish4439 I think the 3 cm, will make some difference though. I am not sure if you will flat foot with out shifting a little forward on the seat. But I don’t think it’s a deal breaker if you can’t flat foot a bike. I have had a gs adventure amongst other very tall bikes, and never had any real issues.
@@dean-does-stuff thanks for the reply. I had a 1200gs a few years back and as you say even the standard version was a bit tall, but manageable.
Did you have corroding mirror reflective part?
yep, i sure do.... no idea if it can be warranty though. Some how i doubt it...
@@dean-does-stuff Yes. They changed them once and now they corroded again and will be changing them again. My bike is always garaged
@@silverredgodhotmail that’s a bit annoying. 😔
Just bought one of these bikes but I'm putting a sidecar on it so I haven't even ridden it yet. I'm handicapped and I have a balance problem so that sidecar will make it drive flat. Just have to slow down when making a turn.
Wow, a side car on a Forza. That will be quite some thing to see. Good luck with it 👍
@@dean-does-stuff, I will send you a picture if I can remember.
LOL
I want to know the site of the machine on the instrument panel
It is a ‘beeline moto’. Give that a Google and you will be able to find it 👍
how tall are you. make a mentoin of short leg room if your 6'. and get a longer flat seat !
I have no issue with leg room at all.
the seat to be changed to a flat seat straight away for more leg room !!
hi, What navi bit is that?
It is a beeline moto. Lots of good reviews on TH-cam on them. 👍
@@dean-does-stuff cheers!
I hate the electronic key entry; I would prefer a normal key.
I do not like stepped seat; I prefer a bench seat because it is not unusual for 3 or even 4 to be on a motorbike in Thailand.
Nice storage areas though.
Being a HondaI I bet it will be relaible.
Do you have one?
@@dean-does-stuff I do not have one. I am a English expat and live in Thailand. The PCX 150 looks very similar in design and is very popular with wealthier Thais. I do not like the riding position and the wheel base is too long and the turning circle is small so not much good for filtering through traffic in Bangkok. I would prefer a Honda Scoopy 110cc or Honda Click 125cc or Honda Wave in Thailand. Have a look at "Mo ToBike" on TH-cam. I also have a Honda Rebel 500 which is good for my Thai secretary to ride because she is only 5 feet tall.
@@johntheaccountant5594 well, you have answered your own points really. This style of scooter is simply not good for what you want. I used to have gilera runner 125sp’s when I was younger. Nothing (accept the virgin bike taxi’s) could keep with me in the traffic. But the 350 Forza is not (in my opinion) a city basher. It is for the open road/ longer distance commuting and light touring.
The keyless system is actually very good on this bike tbh. There are one or two bad bits, but I have to say, it’s one of the best motor bikes I have owned yet. And I have owned over 65 bikes. I love it 👍
@@dean-does-stuff If we all liked and drove the same motorbike, life would be boring. I think for what you want in Holland, that Forza is ideal. I am nearly 60 and I am actually into simplicity now (no driving aides and electronic gizmos). The bikes I find desirable is the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650, Honda CRF300L (142,000 baht = £3,155 on the road), Honda 350 Royal Highness and if wealthy like the Honda CB1100 EX or RS for that smooth four. I would consider buying a Honda CB560R but don't like the stepped seat for pillion.
@@johntheaccountant5594 the Netherlands is one of the most expensive countries for buying motor bikes and cars. In the uk this bike is around 5000 pounds. It is 7700 euros in the Netherlands. Due to high taxes on luxury goods. Fuel is currently €2 per liter as well.
How dose it work on off road?
It is not for off road. I would not recommend it for that.
How much was the top box option?
Hi, unfortunately here in the Netherlands in the shop I got mine, the bike was only available with the box. Also the prices here are much higher than any where else so it is not possible for me to know the cost to you where you are. Uk price is £5,800 and I paid €7,800 here in the Netherlands.
@@dean-does-stuff WOW.. I picked mine up used (without the box) with 700 miles on the vlock for £4800
@@phantombigballs8165 mine is a company bike, so saved on the vat and the depreciation so, probably paid less than that over all. So all is good
How much was the toolbox and fittings ?
I think you mean; the top box? 🤔. I am over in the Netherlands and these bikes come as standard with the top box, so I couldn’t tell you how much it cost I am afraid. Sorry
The oem honda top box for the keyless is £700 from honda.
@@JDMz £700? Phew! A similar sized Givi for example would be a lot cheaper.
What colour is this bike?
Well, hard not to point out the obvious; but it is grey 🤷♂️
@@dean-does-stuff thanks for the reply. I might be colour blind. 😁
I'm ordering one tomorrow and I see there is a mat cynos gray metallic and a pearl falcon gray, I can't tell which is which 🙆♂️
@@869475397 might be different colours for 2022. This is a 2021 bike 👍
Needs more POWAH!! Top speed of GPS 160 would have been nice.
How ever much power you have, you always want more. 😉
If I am honest, I think that this bike has enough power. It is a nice balance between performance and economy in my opinion. It is just fast enough but not excessive. It has a massive range considering it has around 11 liters of fuel….
You can just add more power. Get a variator kit. And adjustable clutch.
Did anybody Had wobbling problem on Honda Forza 350?
Yes, if you take your hands off the bars. But no issues when riding in a normal fashion
@@dean-does-stuff I heard you have to replace tires with Michelin City Grip tires and the problem is solved...
@@SuperFory I suspect that my front tire will be able to cover 30,000 kilometers before it needs to be changed. I doubt I will manage that in the time I own it as I will be getting a new bike in 2 years time. So for that reason I doubt I will get the chance to test that theory. Thanks for the info though
Wouldn’t bother with Bluetooth on any bike, nice to get away from the bloody phone ringing, I’d rather have heated grips fitted as standard.
This was the spec available to me. I also won’t use the Bluetooth. I do love the little beeline moto though. Great little gadget
Heated grip?
Heated grips are an extra. They can be bought from Honda and then there is a integrated symbol on the dash. 👍👍 quite expensive though.
@@dean-does-stuff thank you
Yeah, that horn button drives me crazy!! And not being able to open the trunk with the engine on...
I just don’t know what they were thinking 🤷♂️
of coarse can't open with engine on. get a clue.
Honda forza mileage please
🤷♂️ it says in the title of the video 👍 3500k
I also say the mileage in the first 30 seconds of the video 👍
Trouble is you can not buy this bike as your first bike because it's bigger than 125cc and you first need to pass the tests on a gear changing bike.
No trouble for me as I have had a full license for over 20 years.
But, they do a 125cc version that looks exactly the same, and you can ride it once passing a CBT in the uk, with L plates. 👍
@@dean-does-stuff Yeah, the 125cc honda forza is very popular.
But for me i think it is not the best option if you want to practise for a full licence.
Because the HF 125cc does not have a clutch that the rider needs to use.
And the full licence test is done with bikes with clutch, where you have to change the gears yourself.
I think this is why I see plenty of 125cc scooter owners that are still carrying an L plate on a renewable 2 year cbt licence 10 years later...
@@ToxicVaccines_HivHoax I did my cbt 3 times. It used to last 3 years at a time. And I rode over 100,000 miles in that time all on scooters. Then passed my full license when I was 23. I had no issue with gears at all. It really is very easy.
@@dean-does-stuff - That is good to know because I do prefer the Forza because it looks very practical all around bike and I get the impression it gives better protection from weather conditions.
@@ToxicVaccines_HivHoax well, in 125 or 350, I think it is a fantastic bike. I have had all types of bikes, big/ small, fast/ slow, etc and after years of riding big BMW’s, I can honestly say, I love my Forza. Almost as much as a gsa.. certainly cheaper to buy and own than a massive bmw. That’s for sure
yamaha, bmw; kaw, suz.. etc have the horn button in the right place. Honda ????
yes, I do mention the placing of the controls in this video. You do get used to it, but it is more instinctive to have the buttons in a different configuration.
3500km review fuel cap isnt that great. thats it by
See my video on how I fixed the fuel cap sticking issue 👍
2001 ?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
review the top box please , i think so many different part when this bike was in my country 🥲
The top box is very well made. The Honda mount is very well constructed and fits well to the bike. The integrated keyless entry is also very well thought through. The box it’s self looks to be designed around in bike security and it does look like it would hold up to a considerable attack. The internal size and shape lends its self to having 2 full face helmets. But is well suited to carry all types of luggage. I would recommend it over any after market box. 👍
@@dean-does-stuff Alright, thanks for the short review, but I hope you will make this short review in video. By the way, greetings from Indonesia, I am Momo, I am also a Honda Forza user but with a different engine cubication from yours, because the regulations are quite strict and complicated in my country when the motorcycle exceeds a capacity of 250cc.
@@blouekuthuks I had planned to do a video on the storage of the bike. May be next week if I find the time 👍
@@dean-does-stuff ok Sir i will wait for the video ☺