This game is amazing.. iv beat it 20 plus times now over the decades and just found something new the other day. the 1st time you actually go to nibelheim (not karma flashback) if you to to a table in the corner of Tina's room you'll find a note confirming that all the people currently living there are indeed actors. awesome little details like this are what makes this game, still giving me wonder after all these years
Me neither. Even though the code is clearly rushed/messy, I guess they must have done enough play testing back in the day to fix most of the obvious stuff.
This is awesome. Thanks for the info Death. It's so crazy that people are still finding new things in ff7 original. Now if only we could find the super secret non existent Jade weapon fight lmao. 😁💜🤝
It's quite amazing how just a few days ago, I've rewatched the Wrong Warp and the Kalm Skip videos due to how interesting they were and was wondering if anything else could be done to make things faster ... and this happens. Always deliver, Never disappoint!
I'm glad you never gave up making FF content man I love your passion for the game! I found this channel long ago before it was even cool again an it's always been on point!
Lol and I assumed the Kalm skip was the final one but soon we will see something even weirder.. I want to go in that secret cave in before the Forgotten Capital lol
I love not just the new glitches/implementations of glitches, but that they call back to old glitches found but never used (solo cloud). Love to see this game deconstructed xD
Question couldnt you also use that wrong warp to basically have a new game + ? Or is there road blocks that would prevent you from progressing all the way through the game after you wrong warp back to reactor 1
I recently watched Alien Resurrection and noticed a huge resemblance between the movie and FF7. There's a mad scientist with a pony tail who always wears a white coat and there's an experimental subject with a tattooed number 8. There's 7 failed subjects too... Does it ring a bell? How come there's no threads about it online? Both the movie and FF7 came to market at the same year 🤔
3 questions, 1. Does it work on ps4? 2. Does it matter if the solo cloud which is dead is on a different save file than the save with the timer on it in the no. 1 reactor? and 3. Does the save file with the solo dead cloud have to be right out of midgar or can it be later in the game and still work?
So for the NG+ category I thought of something. It's allowed to load premade saves in NG+ right? If I understood correctly, all you would really have to do is get out of Midgar. It would go like this : - Play the game until out of Midgar onto the world map and save - Load a 1st premade save (NG+) with the timer and die - Load a 2nd premade save (NG+) with dead party and enter the correct fight to set the battle id - Load your save out of Midgar (the actual save of the run) and wrong warp - The end Am I missing something?
Funnily enough, I tried this route and it is slower than the current NG+_ route, because the old wrong warp setup for NG+ is so optimized. This route does work though.
this is so cool now I can go back into debug mode like I could on the ps1. however now that I have tested this more in the PC version of ff7 debug mode is busted then it is on the ps1. some features on the ps1 one version of the game like cutscenes viewer don't work on PC and softlocks the game. I don't understand why that is but now i need to do a full test between the two to see what works and what don't between the PC version and the ps1 version. I'm going to assume this trick will work on the PS4 Xbox switch and mobile since they are all based off the steam version of ff7.
Hey dude, do you know a method to start a new game+ using the debug room? I'd love to take my endgame party back to the start, I've tried numerous ways, always hit global reset in the lobby but I always run in to road blocks - like having your dress etc in key items when entering corneo's mansion seems to advance you straight to disc 2/3. Using the "new game" option with the yuffie in the lobby doesnt work, it locks cloud inside the train. There's multiple other points in the game that will play out but then when you go to proceed the game will behave as if you're revisiting the area so I'm not sure if global reset is affecting all of the event flags in the game. I've always wanted to new game+ FF7, I figured pc would be the place to do it!
Well if you really want to do it easily, you could just use black chocobo, a save game editor. You can download it on their site or on my site, sector48.org
@@4-8Productions I did this exact thing about 2 weeks ago, thanks man! I did have a couple of soft locks that I had to y-warp past, like the observatory fmv in cosmo canyon.
I like when i found kalm skip i found it day one i put that on all my kids im THE ultimate ffer i will guarantee it i also did tifa skip and im never using those skips ever again i enjoy the WHOLE GAME yes its my all time fav game
i like to play slow and enjoy ever aspect of the game and get a 100% rating with no game overs - which was annoying when i died in Nortgern cave with L5 death because the enemy uses it and dies therefore finalattack -phoenix doesnt worl so i started again lol
I got a favor to ask you… Is there a glitch to skip aeris’s death and keep her in the party? I know it is a common thing to ask, but I really have not found a way and honestly, I don’t think I can see it again.
I love how pepole will work for years and years and years to find all this information they can about a game to speedrun it, and they do a great job.. But sooner or later someone is like "Oh hey, there's a loose thread here. Lets see what happens if I pull it." and then the entire game just falls apart XD
I hope this question will be taken as genuine, rather than invective. I would genuinely like to understand. What is the appeal of a speed-run which mostly amounts to NOT playing the game? If you love FF7 as much as we do, isn't it uninteresting to figure out how to not play the game?
Speedrunners do love the games they run, and they've played the game many times over to practice getting a good route. A lot of people speedrun for reasons to show skill, have a sort of challenge run, or a lot of other reasons. People don't try to learn to not play the game, but moreso learn to play the game very well. I hope this helps.
@@chillyice2907 I understand that for the speedrun of FF8, X, etc. The FF7 one seems to be a bit much? It feels like everything is skipped entirely? If I am missing something, let me know. Be candid.
There are many categories in FFVII speedrunning, PC Any% is one of the shortest and most glitch filled. At any rate, it doesn't matter how much of the game is skipped, that doesn't reflect on the runners at all, most of them have played through the game hundreds of times, and still play through it all of the time. It is not like if a skip for cosmo canyon is found, every speedrunner never plays cosmo canyon again, lol. It is one trick, in one category, in a game that is casually played, speedrun, challenge run, modded, and more every day.
As fascinating as this whole process is... I have trouble calling this a "speedrun" anymore at this point. I mean I'm not some kind of "100% Single Segment Only" elitest but... when you use like 3 different save files, I think it's hard to call it a 'single playthrough'. Unless... you create all of those save files in the same session... but that isn't very fast, to say the least. No offense, I still respect it; Im just babbling about semantics. What even is a "speedrun?" Words man; we made'em up.
as far as i got it from this video it IS all in the same playtrough. you start new then save 1 at reactor. keep going then save 2 at choco farm/zolom. keep going then save 3 after calm skip. then you simple USE save 1 and 2, but you made all those 3 save files in the same "run". and yes i personally prefer glitchless runs too (just more interesting to watch imo), but that shouldn´t demerit the ingenuity and dedication for those people who completely dismantle and destroy games ^^
@@Selxirs Im not trying to discredit the runners for their hard work; but I was suggesting they call it something besides "speedrunning". I'll admit my understanding of the video was a bit fuzzy, I thought when he mentioned "NewGame+" he was referring to materia smuggling or something but now that i think about it... the debug room skips the final boss, so why would you need materia? The way you explained it however was actually clearer than the video and in that case... I think that might be fair afterall. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
@@doomswell i never said you descredited speedrunningor anything like that, don´t worry. i justed wanted to show you it was done in ONE run^^ and as i said before. what one does enjoy or what one doesn´t like is all up to oneself. it was neither an attack on your statement nor a defense or anything. all´s good mate ^^ Edit: found a typo in my first post that could turn a sentence in an attack. was never meant to be smth like that. fixed it
@@Selxirs "but that shouldn´t demerit the ingenuity and dedication for those people" I was using discredit as a synonym for dismerit. But yeah, no hard feelings.
Sorry if it wasn't completely clear in the video, but yes, all of these save files are made in the same game. In other words, the memory card is empty when you start the run.
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It still baffles me that people are still finding new things.
Well broken games have so much stuff to break, it never ends 😂
This game is amazing.. iv beat it 20 plus times now over the decades and just found something new the other day. the 1st time you actually go to nibelheim (not karma flashback) if you to to a table in the corner of Tina's room you'll find a note confirming that all the people currently living there are indeed actors. awesome little details like this are what makes this game, still giving me wonder after all these years
Right!
It still baffles me that people are still baffled by people finding new things 😝
The PC version is very buggy
"Alright guys, you chill here, I got this"
"But Cloud, youre... dead..."
"Nah nah nah, I got this, trust me, I was in SOLDIER"
*Immediately Dies
*Finishes the game
*Task failed successfully
@@trashley64 *instructions unclear
*am now on Saturn talking with a stranded Martian
It's finally useful! I found the Solo Cloud thing over a year ago hoping it'd become the Kalm skip LOL
thats so cool. ive always hoped to find something cool like this in one of my favorite games
Thanks for all the mods my dude 👌
This game truly is the gift that keeps on giving.
Amazing work!
At this point I’m just amazed that, in all my playthroughs of FFVII, I’ve never had the game glitch on me.
Me neither. Even though the code is clearly rushed/messy, I guess they must have done enough play testing back in the day to fix most of the obvious stuff.
We can laugh at spaghetti/ marshmallows code all we want, but realistically the only glitch one finds accidentally is the w item one@@crafty_matt
You're a legend as are of course the guys still finding these things
25 years being out they still find this kind of stuff awesome 👍
This is awesome. Thanks for the info Death. It's so crazy that people are still finding new things in ff7 original. Now if only we could find the super secret non existent Jade weapon fight lmao. 😁💜🤝
Very cool, I'm not interested in doing speedruns myself but this stuff is fascinating
It's quite amazing how just a few days ago, I've rewatched the Wrong Warp and the Kalm Skip videos due to how interesting they were and was wondering if anything else could be done to make things faster
... and this happens. Always deliver, Never disappoint!
Loved the fact that you re playing the Costa del sol chill music in the background! And good job for the whole video as well!!!
its awesome to see other people who love FF7 as much as i do!
Every time I see a new video about death talking about FF7, it instantly becomes a good day.
Well done. Congrats to Chuky and everyone else involved 😁
You did it again Death, Another well explained and successfully crafted video. Good work!
Excited to try this. Thanks Chuky and Death!
FF7 is so good that decades after I still watch content about it ^^
I love videos like this, even though I don't speedrun. Great job as usual!
This community never ceases to amaze me
Recently got the game on steam and downloaded a bunch of mods to make my first time playing better with graphics etc. so cool seeing this.
I'm glad you never gave up making FF content man I love your passion for the game! I found this channel long ago before it was even cool again an it's always been on point!
we got a new thingy that will spice things up for the speedruns. Nice job covering this up 👌👌
Whoa 🤯 this game just keeps on giving!
Oh my lord, can you imagine an FF7 ACE?! It'll be Triforce% 2.0...
It's been a while since I went down the FF7 rabbit hole. Good place to start again.
It's gotten EVEN FASTER?! This is incredible.
I've never seen what happens if that 10 minute timer hit zero. I've played the games since it first came out on the ps1.
You could teach an entire college course on how broken this game is.
Lol and I assumed the Kalm skip was the final one but soon we will see something even weirder.. I want to go in that secret cave in before the Forgotten Capital lol
More wrong warps!!! Dang, keep finding them Death!
I love not just the new glitches/implementations of glitches, but that they call back to old glitches found but never used (solo cloud). Love to see this game deconstructed xD
Love the video death, great work!
Dude new tech is always exciting. Good stuff
Fascinating.
I wonder if there will come a point where an evolutionary AI is used and even more insane shortcuts come out
Amazing! What a time for Final Fantasy VII fans.
Babe wake up new FF7 wrong warp
wait what? I just yesterday rewatched the other wrong warp video...
It's going to reach a point where just turning the game on will load you into the very last fight in the game..
na even before you even click play on steam it will give you ending credits.,
Great content, as usual. Keep it up.
How are we still finding stuff?!
I imagine alot of people in Midgar end out outside of Midgar, alone...and dead
Amazing video, thank you Death 🥰
I love your videos. Keep your great work up!
This is insane, feels like every week or so this game gets blown open
This is beautiful
Are you done doing in-depth on final fantasy characters? I was hoping you will branch out to other final fantasy besides FF7 too.
Question couldnt you also use that wrong warp to basically have a new game + ? Or is there road blocks that would prevent you from progressing all the way through the game after you wrong warp back to reactor 1
I recently watched Alien Resurrection and noticed a huge resemblance between the movie and FF7. There's a mad scientist with a pony tail who always wears a white coat and there's an experimental subject with a tattooed number 8. There's 7 failed subjects too... Does it ring a bell? How come there's no threads about it online? Both the movie and FF7 came to market at the same year 🤔
3 questions, 1. Does it work on ps4? 2. Does it matter if the solo cloud which is dead is on a different save file than the save with the timer on it in the no. 1 reactor? and 3. Does the save file with the solo dead cloud have to be right out of midgar or can it be later in the game and still work?
Interestingly the timer glitch doesn’t work on the switch version for some reason.
Final Fantasy X-2 foreshadowed this!
Nice I'm in the video in chat. Seriously though, great work everyone!
So cloud dies, wanders the world as a ghost, then goes back in time to rewrite the fabric of reality
this makes so much canonical sense
FF7 and Super Metroid are so shocking after the player tooks they apart 😅👍
So for the NG+ category I thought of something.
It's allowed to load premade saves in NG+ right?
If I understood correctly, all you would really have to do is get out of Midgar. It would go like this :
- Play the game until out of Midgar onto the world map and save
- Load a 1st premade save (NG+) with the timer and die
- Load a 2nd premade save (NG+) with dead party and enter the correct fight to set the battle id
- Load your save out of Midgar (the actual save of the run) and wrong warp
- The end
Am I missing something?
Funnily enough, I tried this route and it is slower than the current NG+_ route, because the old wrong warp setup for NG+ is so optimized. This route does work though.
What? People found a glitch in FF7??
this is so cool now I can go back into debug mode like I could on the ps1. however now that I have tested this more in the PC version of ff7 debug mode is busted then it is on the ps1. some features on the ps1 one version of the game like cutscenes viewer don't work on PC and softlocks the game. I don't understand why that is but now i need to do a full test between the two to see what works and what don't between the PC version and the ps1 version. I'm going to assume this trick will work on the PS4 Xbox switch and mobile since they are all based off the steam version of ff7.
soon people arent even going to have to play the game to speedrun any% super mario world snes credits warp is what this is starting to look like
Spoiler alert, it helped bringing Aerith back
Hey dude, do you know a method to start a new game+ using the debug room? I'd love to take my endgame party back to the start, I've tried numerous ways, always hit global reset in the lobby but I always run in to road blocks - like having your dress etc in key items when entering corneo's mansion seems to advance you straight to disc 2/3. Using the "new game" option with the yuffie in the lobby doesnt work, it locks cloud inside the train.
There's multiple other points in the game that will play out but then when you go to proceed the game will behave as if you're revisiting the area so I'm not sure if global reset is affecting all of the event flags in the game.
I've always wanted to new game+ FF7, I figured pc would be the place to do it!
Well if you really want to do it easily, you could just use black chocobo, a save game editor. You can download it on their site or on my site, sector48.org
@@4-8Productions I did this exact thing about 2 weeks ago, thanks man! I did have a couple of soft locks that I had to y-warp past, like the observatory fmv in cosmo canyon.
Death, you have such a nice voice 😌
Really? It's kinda grating but can't stop listening lol
@@thend4427 I think you misunderstand what grating means.
Amazing
Jesus Christ another one discovered? This game keeps giving and giving ey
HOLY HELL 3 VIEWS WHATSUP
God I love this game
You know your shit.... Can you steal more than one item of a monster
oh dear what now
I like when i found kalm skip i found it day one i put that on all my kids im THE ultimate ffer i will guarantee it i also did tifa skip and im never using those skips ever again i enjoy the WHOLE GAME yes its my all time fav game
wait, so does this work on the modern console ports? or jsut the PC/steam version?
Correct me if I'm wrong but only the PC version doesn't clear the memory correctly when you game over, so it wouldn't work on console.
Correct, the modern console ports did fix the uncleared memory.
quite possibly the greatest game ever . no seriously it said so on back of the CD lol this game is cheese
So, it's the same a the mew glitch in pokemon gen 1, gotya
Pogress
cool
How do you guys figure this stuff out?
i like to play slow and enjoy ever aspect of the game and get a 100% rating with no game overs - which was annoying when i died in Nortgern cave with L5 death because the enemy uses it and dies therefore finalattack -phoenix doesnt worl so i started again lol
Lol saw this and I thought ANOTHER warp!?!? lol
Also LMAO at Palmer being stuck inside the Truck 6:39
Final fantasy 7 speed runs will one day lead to curing all diseases mark my words lol
I got a favor to ask you…
Is there a glitch to skip aeris’s death and keep her in the party? I know it is a common thing to ask, but I really have not found a way and honestly, I don’t think I can see it again.
th-cam.com/video/plHhDBMcDJo/w-d-xo.html old video but explains it fairly well
Pc only right?
Why is 7 the only FF game with skips?
What is a wrong warp though?
Cool
nice
I love how pepole will work for years and years and years to find all this information they can about a game to speedrun it, and they do a great job.. But sooner or later someone is like "Oh hey, there's a loose thread here. Lets see what happens if I pull it." and then the entire game just falls apart XD
Does this new wrong warp still only work on PC?
All wrong warp glitches only work on the PC/Mobile releases, since they were patched in the modern console ports
Birds are jerks
Is this game broken? Yes
Is this also the best game of all time? Hell Yes
I hope this question will be taken as genuine, rather than invective. I would genuinely like to understand. What is the appeal of a speed-run which mostly amounts to NOT playing the game? If you love FF7 as much as we do, isn't it uninteresting to figure out how to not play the game?
Speedrunners do love the games they run, and they've played the game many times over to practice getting a good route. A lot of people speedrun for reasons to show skill, have a sort of challenge run, or a lot of other reasons. People don't try to learn to not play the game, but moreso learn to play the game very well. I hope this helps.
@@chillyice2907 I understand that for the speedrun of FF8, X, etc. The FF7 one seems to be a bit much? It feels like everything is skipped entirely? If I am missing something, let me know. Be candid.
There are many categories in FFVII speedrunning, PC Any% is one of the shortest and most glitch filled. At any rate, it doesn't matter how much of the game is skipped, that doesn't reflect on the runners at all, most of them have played through the game hundreds of times, and still play through it all of the time. It is not like if a skip for cosmo canyon is found, every speedrunner never plays cosmo canyon again, lol. It is one trick, in one category, in a game that is casually played, speedrun, challenge run, modded, and more every day.
These glitch hunters should apply their skill in fields such as Physics, Chemistry and sorts!!! They are amazing
8:43 tf is this
As fascinating as this whole process is... I have trouble calling this a "speedrun" anymore at this point. I mean I'm not some kind of "100% Single Segment Only" elitest but... when you use like 3 different save files, I think it's hard to call it a 'single playthrough'.
Unless... you create all of those save files in the same session... but that isn't very fast, to say the least.
No offense, I still respect it; Im just babbling about semantics. What even is a "speedrun?" Words man; we made'em up.
as far as i got it from this video it IS all in the same playtrough. you start new then save 1 at reactor. keep going then save 2 at choco farm/zolom. keep going then save 3 after calm skip. then you simple USE save 1 and 2, but you made all those 3 save files in the same "run". and yes i personally prefer glitchless runs too (just more interesting to watch imo), but that shouldn´t demerit the ingenuity and dedication for those people who completely dismantle and destroy games ^^
@@Selxirs Im not trying to discredit the runners for their hard work; but I was suggesting they call it something besides "speedrunning".
I'll admit my understanding of the video was a bit fuzzy, I thought when he mentioned "NewGame+" he was referring to materia smuggling or something but now that i think about it... the debug room skips the final boss, so why would you need materia?
The way you explained it however was actually clearer than the video and in that case... I think that might be fair afterall. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
@@doomswell i never said you descredited speedrunningor anything like that, don´t worry. i justed wanted to show you it was done in ONE run^^ and as i said before. what one does enjoy or what one doesn´t like is all up to oneself. it was neither an attack on your statement nor a defense or anything. all´s good mate ^^
Edit: found a typo in my first post that could turn a sentence in an attack. was never meant to be smth like that. fixed it
@@Selxirs
"but that shouldn´t demerit the ingenuity and dedication for those people"
I was using discredit as a synonym for dismerit. But yeah, no hard feelings.
Sorry if it wasn't completely clear in the video, but yes, all of these save files are made in the same game. In other words, the memory card is empty when you start the run.
HOLY HELL this video made me tired lol
Walkthrough part of the video starts at 8:47.
wouldn't you be a little to weak to beat sephiroth with this speedrun? well i guess you can use the debug room to get some power ups
Can you imagine if they invested the energy needed to figure all of this out into something that actually mattered?
Anything is possible once you start messing with the code.
Messing with the code is only used to see why things happen, everything that happens here is from the original code.
you really like this game, don't you?
So... I basicly played the game wrong all those years *facepalm*
so you get to the final area with a level 11 party? how do you then not die immediately?
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