Talaria, EridePro SS or Surron?

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  • @Shreddylife
    @Shreddylife 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    This is the type of video I was looking for a few weeks ago. I was trying to decide what Emoto bike I wanted to purchase but I ended up going with the Eride pro SS. I was not really looking forward to spending 5k on a bike and turn around and sink more money into it like a lot of Sur ron owners ended doing. I think all the bikes are awesome and each has special things about them like you pointed out in this highly detailed video. I am sure this will help others decide what they want to buy in a future. So far I am very happy with the Eride Pro SS. It has a ton of power out of the box and its suspension feels very nice as well. My only gripe is the bike is pretty loud but maybe in the future we will figure out a way to quite it down lol cheers man 🙂

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thank you for watching and saying what you said.
      I do hope it helps people because they are all fantastic bikes depending on who you are and what you’re doing with it, there is a right and wrong bike.
      Even though they all will do everything some do it better than others.
      Thanks again. 👍

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m glad you join the emoto family.
      And thanks for commenting and watching my videos.
      The ERide pro is a great bike it’s loud as F*** but it’s a great bike
      The money you have to spend is not right to have to buy one of these. But it is the most fun you can have with your pants on.
      Stay tuned. I got more videos coming to the channel.
      I’m in Las Vegas so our summer is so brutal that we can’t ride during most of it. But we only have about 2 weeks of this heat left after that it’s on.
      Thanks for watching.
      Get out and ride!

    • @Shreddylife
      @Shreddylife 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrKushmann1 Yeah its a great bike for sure and it is pretty loud but it doesn't really bother me when I have my helmet on lol I like the fact that if anything goes wrong with the bike Eride and the place I bought it from is quick to replace parts under warranty! I got one with the old pulley and I hit up Gritshift and asked them if I could get the updated pulley before I had an issue with it and they had it shipped to me in a week free of charge! The cost of the battery being half the cost of the bike is pretty crazy so I get why the bike cost so much at this point. They are so much fun to ride and the new Shinko 241 tires I installed made it so smooth on the road and very nice on the trails I ride also! Enjoy Vegas bro, sounds like a blast!

    • @shanemollison
      @shanemollison 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Shreddylife how do you tell if it has a old pulley

    • @Shreddylife
      @Shreddylife 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shanemollison The old one will have small tac welds that hold on a metal ring guide. The new one has Allen head screws that bolt the two pieces of the pulley together. Look up some pictures online there should be a few.

  • @jakegentry496
    @jakegentry496 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I bought a talaria a year ago put like 500 miles on it and now I bought an E ride recently and they’re both great I had a blast on the talaria it’s such a fun bike and it’s just a different experience. The power of the E-ride is just way too fun so my wife rides the talaria on eco mode around now

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oh right on. Yeah I got the wife on a Surron it’s a lot smaller so it fits her better.
      But the talaria is a different bike. It’s similar but it rides so different. It’s so smooth and quiet compared to the ERP.
      But they are great bikes.

  • @swhalstead
    @swhalstead 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I just ordered the Torp for my sting r. You can now order direct from Torp for $915. I got the display and regen lever for just under 1100 shipped. Torp is in Croatia but they ship DHL in about a weeks time. No tax.

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right on. Thanks for the heads up.
      What did you wind up getting the 500 or the 1000I know darwinev.com has them as well.

    • @Shreddylife
      @Shreddylife 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I bet that setup is gonna rip! All she needs now is a 72V battery if you end up wanting it to go even faster 🙂 Happy riding!

    •  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Congrats! It might go as fast as an eride now with less range. Might as well spend another 2k+ for an 8k bike that's a little better than a stock eride. Sounds like you have a 3 pound paper weight...

    • @Shreddylife
      @Shreddylife 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      🤔 Sounds like he's having fun why be negative?

    •  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Shreddylife what if I'm having fun trolling? Is it negative? Cause then realistically we're all having fun!

  • @mrKushmann1
    @mrKushmann1  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    True.
    GritShift has been fantastic with me too. Rusty over there is awesome.
    The Batteries are crazy priced.
    And Vegas has been hot as a MF the past 2.5 months. We got like 2-3 more hot weeks and then we got riding season back again. I can’t wait.
    Sucks that you really can’t ride out here in the summer. It’s just to Damm hot.
    I need to get out and ride.
    Thanks for watching.

  • @BobSue-fn5ye
    @BobSue-fn5ye 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Massively appreciate you taking the time for this comparison @MrKushmann!
    Would you say there's a sizable noise difference in your Talaria vs ERide particularly in the 0-20mph range? While watching many ERide videos, it seems noticeably louder than others.
    At first glance into this market, I thought it was an easy decision to grab an ERide (72v / lightweight) and plan to upgrade the controller when released. But that MX4 platform/gearbox has amazing benefits, although getting the Talaria to 72v will cost, possibly more than I want for the hobby.

    • @jakegentry496
      @jakegentry496 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The E-ride is much much louder it has a drone sound from the belt

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching my videos. Yeah upgrading these bikes is definitely not cheap but the platform that you upgrade really does make a difference. So if you are riding a lot of MX tracks doing a lot of big jumps you may want some thing a little lighter like a Surron and upgrade that. But if you’re doing some single track and trail riding, I still think the talaria is a better bike because it’s so much smoother and it has a little extra weight to it so when you’re going into turn, it has a little bit more weight to stay in that instead of pushing through the turn on like a Surron , which is super light.
      The ER pro is definitely a lot louder 100% specially at lower speeds. It sounds like a vacuum. It’s loud but it has great power which makes the bike so much fun to ride. There’s a new player you need to check out. It’s the Venus One. It’s a 79 falcon with 28kw. Like crazy power. That’s like the power of a 450 dirt bike. And it’s going to cost 6900$. So stay on the look out for that.

  • @PizzaCologne3
    @PizzaCologne3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    well detailed video of the big 3, I'll be making a purchase next year.

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      By then there is going to be a lot more to choose from.
      Check out the Ventus one
      That is going to be crazy fast.

  • @shockadellick
    @shockadellick 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @MrKushmann
    The E-ride Pro SS is a Jack-Shaft, and that's not the future of these bikes, however,Talaria's gear-box is.
    Talaria recently released their 2nd generation controller for the 2025 Sting R. It's easily identified from the 1st generation Sting R controllers by the inscribed words reading STING R. The first generation Sting R controller inscribed on the face simply read TALARIA.
    The new 2025 Sting R controller has a 10% power gain over the 2023's R controller.

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don’t know about the Jack shaft being fazed out. The Jack shaft is here to stay for a minute.
      The gearbox is superior but also causes drag. But to be honest the extra gearbox is not ideal either.
      The best way is an internal gear reduction directly off the motor.
      This way there is no gearbox it’s like a direct drive from the motor to the chain.
      It makes it super smooth and Uber quiet.
      Check out the qs138 70h v3 electric motor. That has an internal gear reduction.
      Also if you look at my other videos with the gowow ori that bike has an internal gear reduction on it. No Jack shaft and no gear box.
      I believe that is the future of electric bikes.
      Not an external gear box. Even though I do like it on the talaria it causes a little bit of gear lash noise where the internal gear reduction does not.
      The newer talaria with the extra 10 % is not that much. It should be 10kw minimum not only 8.8kw.
      While it’s better than nothing it still needs the controller swapped out with the Darwin tc 500 or the tc-1000 to get the full potential out of the 60v battery.
      With the controller changed and the battery staying stock your able to pull 11.5 kw. Which is right were you want to be to have the most power possible without a new 2500 battery.
      Thanks for watching my videos.

  • @OregonCrow
    @OregonCrow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for showing what kind of bars NOT to put on a talaria. lol

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bars are personal preference as most things are in life. What works for you won’t work for everybody else.
      That’s why they make multiple styles of handle bars.
      So people can make Their bike work for them.
      Glad I could help.

    • @OregonCrow
      @OregonCrow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrKushmann1 k

  • @saulGjr
    @saulGjr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Do you know if peg drops from the surron will fit the e ride pro?

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes the surrons peg lowering kit will work on the ERP.

  • @reakoe
    @reakoe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for your great info-need your advice --down to eride vs surron-my dilemma is, not having seen them except online,-I ride my e-bike 20 in tires now--(1) I’m 75 retired so this may be the last bike i can afford to get so I got to get it as right as i can ,I’m 5’2 so bike size/wt is a consideration for me like loading into pickup or handling while riding-don’t know if there is that much diff between them to make a practical difference (2) where to ride--if they are not street legal --yet they are on the streets-i know it varies-live in Charleston-not very rural(3)will not be jumping hills, Moto track,wheelies (4)what is your opinion of Alibaba--i know there is no warranty with Ali-closest dealer 120 miles away so practically non existent-
    Any guidance would be appreciated-Larry

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      First thanks for watching my videos.
      What bike to get between the Surron and the eride, I think there is another option if price is a factor. The Talaria xxx is 3350$ shipped to your door. Now I dislike lunacycles but they have great price on the talaria xxx. And since your older and smaller and lighter and are looking for a lighter more manageable bike my personal opinion is the Talaria xxx. It’s faster than the Surron and it’s a few pounds lighter than the Surron. Overall I believe for your age and size that’s the bike. If your focused on the Surron or the e ride than I would say go with the e ride s. Not the eride pro ss. The ERide s is 72 volt and 6000kw so it’s already faster than the Surron.
      The only reason I would tell you to buy a Surron is if you’re going to modify the shit out of it.
      That’s a lot of money and I’m sure that’s not where a 75 + retiree wants to be.
      And the eride s is cheaper than the Surron. So it’s lighter it’s faster it’s cheaper and it has a 72v battery stock.
      So I would say either a Talaria xxx or an eride pro s.
      Let me know what you think about that?

  • @Alex-oy6wb
    @Alex-oy6wb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I got the 2024 Surron lbx for $3k on Alibaba. Took 60-days to arrive but save over $1k

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      . Wow that’s a fantastic price. Glad it worked out for you. I’ve heard a lot of horror stories about people getting scammed and loosing their money.

    • @Alex-oy6wb
      @Alex-oy6wb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrKushmann1 thanks. I was thinking of customizing it but I’m short 5’6”, new to bikes, and just do trail riding in SoCal, so I’ll prob leave it stock for a while. Maybe just get new tires (tusk ground wire) and heavy duty tubes.

    •  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And no warranty... Not sure if saving one days worth of work is the right move...

  • @michielpoortvliet3003
    @michielpoortvliet3003 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What handlebars do you have on the talaria and did you raise the seat? Thanks for your reply in advance

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes I raised the seat. And I found these bars on Amazon.
      There awesome.
      Thanks for watching my videos.
      a.co/d/0eMTL3Ku

  • @DarinBlosser-in9bt
    @DarinBlosser-in9bt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have eride pro ss 2.0 and love it any upgrades that I would choose to do seems to be pretty easy other than power but let's face it power not really an issue oh yeah if you break a gear box your done these bikes are made for trail riding comfort wasn't really a consideration so do your homework and know what your buying

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There has only been 1 person who broke the gearbox. And that was due to water getting in in because he had it under water.
      Other than that it’s not a concern.
      But I agree do your homework.

  • @mauka-qx5iv
    @mauka-qx5iv หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im getting the surron soon u think it was a good choice?

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Surron is great it’s just underpowered. It feels good at first but after a week of riding it and becoming familiar with it you soon realize it needs more power.
      But good luck and let me know what you think when you get it.

  • @younqzoe
    @younqzoe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Which one is right for you?
    I’m broke
    Talaria XXX
    BET

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      👍

    • @BHsoFunny
      @BHsoFunny 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂 😂😂😂

  • @donkublon9626
    @donkublon9626 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello i never riding any bike and i just bough talaria mx3 coz im in love with these ebikes. I bought it in Poland and wanna unblock it, my dealer says to me to first ride it one month then unblock coz Talaria might not take back my complaint if something in bike is wrong. was he right or can i really unblock it one the begining ?

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      First congratulations on the bike. They change your life.
      Yes it can be unlimited.
      From the factory they restrict the speed so under the horn in the front of the bike if you took the horn off the cover for the horn take that off and you’ll find a bunch of wires. There’s a loop brown wire there that you’re gonna cut. There’s plenty of videos on online showing how to do it and I believe there’s a sequence that you could do with the brake levers to do it as well but you’re gonna have to look that one up on like Facebook or TH-cam as well on the MX three how to unlock or unlimited the MX three but yes, it could be unlocked and a lot of times the dealers once you unlock it or unlimited, they don’t wanna warranty it still gonna warranty it so you’re fine

  • @early2exit
    @early2exit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    give thanks

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Every day my friend. Every day.

  • @trey_dizzle4161
    @trey_dizzle4161 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't decide for the life of me what to buy.. its so stressful because i can't see any of these in person. Plus im so indecisive

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Talk about indecisive, Why do you think I have so many of them. I just couldn’t decide on what to get. But my first one was the Talaria mx3. Great bike I just felt I wanted more power. At the time the Surron was the only other bike out so I bought 1 of them. And I soon realized that the Surron felt like a toy compared to the Talaria. When I saw the Talaria mx4 was coming out I sold my MX3 that same day I bought the new mx4. Such a great bike. And I do believe it is the best out of them all that I have.
      No matter what you get it will change your life. The most fun you can have with your pants on.
      Good luck and let me know what you choose.

    • @trey_dizzle4161
      @trey_dizzle4161 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrKushmann1 I think I'm pulling the trigger on a Surron because I need the lightest bike possible because I'll need to carry it up 3 flights of stairs when I'm at the beach plus if I want more speed I can just upgrade it. I was thinking E-ride but I talked to a dealer and 11% of the bikes they've sold has had problems which is an insane number to me

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@trey_dizzle4161yeah the first erodes had some issues but the manufacturer was quick to solve them.
      Think of it as a lightly upgraded Surron.
      But if you want light have you looked at the talaria xxx? It has more power than the Surron and is lighter.

    • @trey_dizzle4161
      @trey_dizzle4161 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrKushmann1 got my purple surron Thursday! It's fun. Still pretty fast considering I'm 220 and 6ft 2

  • @biakdika2546
    @biakdika2546 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    my dream bike☺☺☺

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What one ?
      Or all of them?

    • @biakdika2546
      @biakdika2546 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i like All of them....All are my dream bike, but i dont have money😢😢😢 but i drive them in my dream😊😊😊

  • @bikerider4326
    @bikerider4326 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ah the joys of having SO MUCH MONEY that you lose sight of reality. 😢

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right,
      or you realize that reality is not what you have been taught it was and that you are in charge of your life and what happens in it and when you stop being the character in someone else’s movie and become the hero in your movie than you see that reality is what you decide not what everyone else has decided it to be. And life becomes very different and Reality becomes much more fun

    • @bikerider4326
      @bikerider4326 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrKushmann1 you lost me @ or…

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bikerider4326 some things you just can’t explain.

    • @bikerider4326
      @bikerider4326 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrKushmann1 I think you mean “Ignorance is Bliss”. Certain things that certain people never need to experience. 🤫

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bikerider4326
      Seems that we agree on this.

  • @sahariarjoy3695
    @sahariarjoy3695 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I need a bike

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I can’t say I disagree with you because it’s the most fun you can have with your pants on.

  • @gowowofficial8398
    @gowowofficial8398 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good content

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. ❤

  • @BryonCombs
    @BryonCombs หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should get the new talaria mx5 compare it to the eride pro

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s already ordered.
      Just waiting till end of September for it to arrive.
      It’s going to be the longest 3 weeks ever.
      Thanks for watching.

  • @dbirds21
    @dbirds21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have you rode the rfn after flashed controller. I hear its eride pro type power now...

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ve heard it helps a bunch with it flashed.
      If you put the eride up against a RFN and put the RFN in rocket mode it prob will be about the same. I think since the eride pro is lighter it would probably win but not by much.
      The rocket mode is better once you flash the controller at least you get 60 seconds or full power.
      The RFN is great it just needs some tweaking. The front end is low and needs to be raised. And the power needs to be bumped up. It’s just to tame in its stock form. But with motoclops bac 8000 controller it makes the bike where it should have been from the factory.

  • @dbirds21
    @dbirds21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Talaria could be the king of its class if they had more power. THey are just way too gutless stock. Eride is very powerful and better for extreme riding.

    • @mrKushmann1
      @mrKushmann1  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I totally agree. I don’t know why the talaria is not 14kw with a 72v battery from the factory. It would put everything to shame.

    • @dbirds21
      @dbirds21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrKushmann1 THe eride to me looks and sounds clanky or cheap. The power is nice stock form. I like the talaria and the rfn. IM leaning towards the new talaria mx4 expert edition out of canada. Comes with manitou forks and magura brakes out of the box, they also claim it has 10 percent more power than the mx4