What I remember about playing Battlefield 2042's beta is... is how broken it was... Also if you watched my Vanguard video then you know I thought Battlefield 2042 was gonna MURDER Call of Duty this year like they did with Battlefield 1. But... I could never have prepared myself for what I witnessed...
Welp it murders something alright it murdered our expectations for a battlefield game I mean this beta makes bf4 at launch look sane and 2042s launch will be cancer I guarantee. Cod is just boring at this point what’s there to be hyped about anymore it seams like gaming is just dying out from a forced death
What does that mean? They happened to have them on their person and accidentally dropped them in there while going through your car? Sell them then idiot
I'm convinced EA was making a battlefield Battle-Royale game, and they decided to change it last minute and turn it into a mainline entry in the series.
Lmaoo never thought of it that way but now that you say it, I think that might have been the case lolol. Game is a mess and probably the worst beta I’ve ever played.
Feels like EA and DICE were real fuck jealous of Infinity Ward of how well MW2019 and Warzone did.MW2019 sold 58M copies and Warzone had 200m Downloads. We're seeing experiencing all of this right now
Imagine taking player feedback after releasing a broken, unplayable mess that even the core gameplay doesn't slightly resemble previous games, and responding to it with "Your expectations are brutally unrealistic"
At this point, I honestly belive that me and a few of my drinking buddies could make a better bf game... no experience in game design, but honesly at least it would feel like bf, well more than this anyway
Im telling you guys, just play movie battles 2 jedi academy mod instead, dont waste your time and money with these sort of games by these publishers, i dont know why you guys insist on then, its insane
@@hazardlizard2552 games I like are ones I enjoy personally. Some are bad, I will admit, but battlefield 2042 just seems fucking terrible at its current state
Yeah I'm tried of the whole "got to buy this week's new shiny cause that's what everyone is talking about". What's worse is consumer habits is the major key to the garbage we see today. If people are going to buy garbage, companies aren't going to stop making garbage.
@@riatorex8722 Really?I been playing BF1 for a long time and have never encountered a single hacker in the game,but it’s probably because I play on Xbox.What platform do you play on??
@@ChavitoFlacito04 ye, probably because you play in a different server, i encountered many and many invisible dudes shooting at me through the wall from miles away lol. I'm not even joking, literal floating guns, it's not like my PC isn't rendering him or anything
Turns out... it's still a mess, an absolute mess. As a 20 year veteran of the Battlefield franchise, this breaks my heart, but in a way it makes me laugh out loud because it is sooooo fuuuuuucking bad. The Patreon comment about the ladders fits perfectly, how dense you have to be to fuck up LADDERS!? I mean... LADDERS!?!?!?!?
@@chrinaldi I don't have the game myself, but it seems like the devs have just given up. The game has less players than bf1, bfV and even less than bf4 at times. The game is just unsalvageable, which is a shame.
@@lennartmook9182 I would have bought it, if the game was any good. The devs deserve every bit of critique people give them for creating such a horrible game.
"The final product is more important than the launch project" - imagine if that logic were taken to any other industry. Restaurants. Movies. Automotive industry. Travel.
Sweet Jesus, I just got a picture in my head when you said "Automotive Industry" "Yeah, I know that hundreds of our cars have spun out and killed passengers, but come on, guys. We're still learning here. The final product is always more important than the launch product!" Of course, a bad video game by no means is equivalent to deadly defective car, but it does show how stupid that mindset can be.
Unfortunately by “Largest dev team ever”, DICE just means most overly complex mess ever produced. Worst part is they’ll pin it on employees, layoffs ensue, and the managers and executives get fat bonuses for this decision making.
@@dbw166 that’s no excuse , u are given the tools to still do your job and the difference is u not in the same place… I will use one example, South Park does an episode in 1 week - that includes writing , animation , voice recording, mixing etc and they too had to work during lockdown but still pulled it off…so the lockdown excuse doesn’t cut it bud considering they had YEARS to develop the game , cod comes out every year and these guys had years including big teams and still fuk up… no excuses!!
To be fair, i was fucking diying of laughther because the game looked like an schizofrenics acid trip, and also i think it is the Xbox versión the one that's broken beyond repair but still you are completly right this is unaceptable and all the Blame should fall on the higher ups
EA offers more creative freedom to Dice because they make more money. Most of the controversy with Dice recently had been because of Dice Sweden, their LA branch kicks ass though
@@renanvinicius6036 Probably because they're used to playing AAA games that are basically unfinished and broken at release, also known as other Battlefield games (excluding BF1).
I agree with the video, but every time I read "x is paid by y to say it's good" I cannot stop laughing, Ceer up, man, where do you think we live, in the 1984 book?
It's fucking hilarious how many people were defending this game when Act Man was exposing the bugs and glitches. Beta back then =/= Beta today. Nowadays a Beta is just early access.
rly? I think beta nowadays is just a mean to promote the game. I mean, how can they work on beta feedbacks in like a month or few weeks before the release date? Not to mention, it's hilarious to see how fanboys' expectation goes down the shitter when they think it's ok to release a broken game in day-1. I don't remember buying any NES or PS1 game that's broken at launch and the dev said "it's gonna fix soon, trust us!"
Most betas are demos or in all actually realy just server stress tests. A beta a month before launch is a demo. That is the product you are getting on launch unless they put out a day 1 patch that fixes the issues. Back4blood went gold during its "beta" which is hilarious. Beta is a buzzword anymore and doesn't really represent where the product actually is at in its development cycle. At least it isn't for these "triple A publishers"
No, a beta is not early access, it’s mostly today there to generate hype for the game before launch and it will be almost the exact same game at launch day.
I think the Hit Registration should not be Changed, it's beautiful really. It feels like your in Movie where everyone is shooting each other face to face yet the bullets somehow miss. It's beautiful, also rage inducing, but Beautiful.
The best thing about 2042 is that it got loads of people back playing BF1. Seriously did everyone with any idea how to make a Battlefield game leave after BF1 or something?
Saw an article on the BF2042 subreddit that over 60% of Battlefield 2042 designers joined after BF1. Over 20% joined during 2042’s development. Explains a lot. The OG DICE is gone.
Fun fact : tf2 map creators have made ladders and have made well working functions for them in a 15 year old game, BF2024 is brand new and the ladders barely work with a whole team of developers
I’m both happy, and saddened to be able to say I lived through a time in which games used to be completely finished, (appropriately) bug free, and instantly playable on release day. Man those were the days
Good times when developers didn't had the option to update the game later. Of course it had its cons, but at least most studios did their best to release the game as good as possible. Even if the game was bad for any reason, it was finished. Nowadays every release is a gamble moment for the customers. Only after the release we get sure if the trailers were actually real or just a scam.
Honestly if you compare the trailers of Battlefield 2042 with this game its shaping up to be the Anthem 2.And Even on RTX 3090 Trailer it can barely run at 30 FPS . Don't know what's gonna happen to this on November 19. Edit: It's the worst Battlefield in History according to Angry Joe himself
@@ChandranPrema123 I'm predicting the game undersells (might not be a flop, but to EA, underselling might as well be) and has major player drop off within a month.
@@ChandranPrema123 This is incorrect, I played the open beta with an RTX 3080 with 100+ fps and didn't experience the bugs he was having probably because I was on a PC and the trailer is probably rendered and exported at 30fps but I agree that they have to work on the console version a lot more.
37:03 No joke, when he pointed out that Orbital was a medium-sized map, a loud police siren rang right outside my house. I can’t think of any other warning sign better than that.
Well yeah because with every new game, the standards are higher, more ceilings need to be broken, the modern limits are pushed, more innovation and creativity is required so naturally, these things will come with consequences. Some of these games will have bugs… as long as they are willing to fix it and polish it even more, I’m willing to be patient.
@@LegendInThaMakin uhm...no? That's like accepting an unfinished thesis because "the standards are higher, more ceilings need to be broken, the modern limits are pushed" and telling the guy to finish it later. It's not just about the bugs for gods sake. Did you watch the video, fuck nut?
@@bananasaur5209 you don’t have to accept the unfinished thesis. Just like you don’t have to play 2042. I’m simply choosing to be a bit understanding if there are bugs that come with this game. Played bf for like a decade, things may not come out perfect at first but the team does eventually work hard to listen to the community, and iron things out and make the game a lot better over time. I calmly applaud the innovation and offer fair critics like a rational human being. There is no need to be so emotional and angry, relax kid.
Even if the beta was perfect without any bugs or issues, the whole specialist system has killed most of my hype. It feels like a shitty hero shooter to me, not BF. Not to mention everyone is playing as Mackay, killing any immersion I had.
@@callmekellen8053 they have the factions though in vanguard they’re removing it hell I’d rather have the ghost systems than that but they’re definitely gonna change it
It really is. Downright pathetic. But on launch day there's gonna be a bunch of streamers playing it with their shocked, wide-eyed, open-mouthed faces on the thumbnails of their videos acting like they're having the time of their lives. And it'll still be in raggedy shape.
See, my issue with all this is the basic mistakes being forgiven. We are actually reaching the point where basic features working is like a gift from the gods.
I agree. The standards for a lot of people are rock bottom for games these days. It doesn't even have to work properly, just provide some meme entertainment for a bit and that's good enough for $80 apparently. It makes it easy for me to pass, even on my old favorite franchises, because the quality just isn't there. Is it just an insatiable need for "new" content or are people genuinely happy to pay for broken incomplete games that strip out features from previous iterations..? I honestly don't know.
Part of it I think is that PC didn't have a looot of these bugs. Most of our bugs were UI and loadout selection based. I imagine a lot of the people saying that it really isn't that bad, played PC. I was one of those till I saw the videos of consoles. PC it was pretty nice honestly. Console is a nightmare. I feel bad for the console people.
Y’all remember when a beta come out around June/July and if there was issues, they would have them fixed by November and the game was fun and playable at launch. Good ole days
When someone says you only hated the beta because you're bad at the game: "I've have experienced countless bugs, glitches, and immersion breaking spectacles throughout all of my playtime in this beta" "But what's your K/D"
Battlefield fans get blinded before every game’s release. They already forgot how DICE spit in the fan’s faces and called them bigots for criticizing BF5 Edit: EA called the fans bigots, not dice, my bad
Dude at least battlefield 5 was functional, had classes and satisfying gunplay. Acting like this isn't worse than every single game before it times 10 is just willful ignorance. 🙄
And now he's probably depressed because BF was his favorite FPS game of the genre Like seriously Battlefield, DICE, what the hell is going on in the studio? Why did you degrade so low from the greats BF3,4, BC2 and even 1 in 2016! To the buggy, controversial and unfun game that the BFV was, and now you give us this?! 2042? How the hell in 4 years do you get as low as the COD games nowadays in standards? No wonder AngryJoe was having a passionate rant
When playing the beta, I TRIED my hardest to say positive. I was looking for hood things about the game and I just didn’t stop playing because I knew I probably wasn’t paying 60 bucks for the full game. When the beta ended, I realized just how bad it really was
You can tell that they are making video games like products on an assembly line whereas they used to be made by groups of people with passion for their work, the 2000-2012/2015ish era for games was better than what we’ve gotten lately
Yeah you can tell all passion is gone and it's just a money making machine. I realized this in 2015 when every game started doing the same thing. Oh Fortnite is big? Well let's all copy that hype. Not to mention there's been nothing new as of late. All these games are the same. First person shooters with different maps. I can't recall the last time some crazy new idea popped up like a medieval rpg or something like a new Western game. It's all just easy shooters to get money
@@spaghettisauce1104 new world is pretty fun man..that and Valheim with a bunch of friends is super fun. I highly recommend since the latter is very indie. :) Just gotta find the niche stuff. And you'll really love VRchat if you wanna just be social and make friends, even without a headset. It's worth. Today I have a class scheduled to learn sign language so I can communicate with people who are either Mute or socially anxious. And then meditation afterwards at 8pm :) Little stuff like that is what really brings community together. Art classes and game programming classes and such being held by people who are passionate. And are needed more than ever these days.
@DOSboi Aidan it baffles me that there are so many unexplored genres in games that I've wanted since like 2000. I mean youre gunna tell me no company is gunna try and make a tripe A wild west game besides rockstar or a pirate game besides Ubisoft? Sucker punch is the only recent company that I can think of that's even pulled off a good samurai game in the last decade.
@@brotherhoodofsteel5254 Do you know how creating games and making them run properly works bro? Not excusing a company as big as them, but still I feel like you don't on a scale of a game such as this lol. Plus, who even said I was excusing them?
Why is nobody talking about the fact that every single new game that comes out is broken, underwhelming, disappointing or just not fun? The whole industry is in shambles
Sad things is that unless some divine intervention comes and starts regulating video games without being paid by these companies. Its gonna stay like this forever They will follow the cash
Act Man has several videos on the topic ("Decline of Gaming") comes to mind. There are probably some other guys out there but yeah it's mind blowing how such an obvious and problematic topic is not properly addressed; it feels like everybody, and not just IGN and Metacritic collaborators, is bribed by gaming companies
I had a friend in high school who wanted to become a game developer and started to make a horror game alongside her boyfriend. It was pretty basic and in her own words, generic: a haunted mansion with a bunch a different ghosts in it. They were making the game on weekends; sometimes I helped with some parts of the script; she used the Unreal Engine in the most basic way possible. Unfortunately, I've moved on and lost contact with the two, but let me tell you: three highschoolers with minimal knowledge on game making could make a much better PRE-ALPHA than an open beta to a multi-million videogame.
I love that we actually have someone criticizing the game and not “welp, I hate it but I’m a fanboy so it’s a good game”. It’s honestly sad and disappointing seeing the communities standards on video games has dramatically lowered.
I don’t think it’s expectation here. Dice said that the build of this beta was months old and that the issues seen there is fixed. I still am confident that the issues are indeed fixed.
That's actually most of the criticism I've seen and they still just say "It's just a beta. It's a 3 month old build" and they'll go blow $60 on it and then complain why it is glitchy. Cyberpunk 2077 all over again
@@hopelessent.1700 Bruh you couldn't fix half of these issues in one month, nothing will be changed dramatically, a beta that's 1 month from release is what the full game will play like
If this game was supposed to be a love letter, then BF1 was had to have been a throat purring, passionate blowjob in comparison. I think the words EA was searching for is “flaming sack of shit at the doorstep of dedicated fans.”
@@dream_killer-cc3vr Wish I was there for the BF4 glory days. Havent played a Battlefield game since BF3 and BC2, and man is it sad to see the series fall this hard
They really killed Star Wars Battlefront II for this???? Seriously? Yes, it is 2024, and yes I am still angry about this. EA, I pray for your downfall every day.
the single, shit assassination animation is 100% because they're probably going to add other animations as cosmetics same for why specialists of both teams look the same, they'll probably sell skins for them and won't bother making two versions of the same skin for the two different teams
Wonder why they removed first person Takedowns to 3rd person that Battlefield had for 10 years in BF3,BF4,BF1,BF Hardline and BF5. Funny how Infinite Warfare,COD WW2,MW,BOCW and Vanguard has 1st person takedowns in Campaign but MW2019,BOCW, Vanguard have 3rd person takedown in MP.That shows what Battlefield is going towards to be a MW clone. Did anyone expect this after BF5?
This "Its just a beta" thing really shows how low the standards have sunk. I miss the times when games released in a playable state, and when bugs and glitches were something that you had to actively put in the effort and time to find. Now games basically break themselves apart for you.
Battlefield 1 is the peak of this franchise. Visually stunning, best looking BF game, weapons and vehicles feel so real, and are so much fun to use. F U DICE. WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU????
@@mathildadecker3433 don't know about xbox playerbase but Pc is still more active than 2042 and it's quite cheap or even free with the basic ea play (aswell as bf5 and the older games too)
Most of the devs that made battlefield what it was left. Even guys that worked on frostbyte engine. Basicly all veterans left and just rookies doing the job
This is actually really sad. After BF5, Battlefield needs a comeback to gain back it's notoriety. If 2042 fails, then I can see EA canning the IP. They've done it with other big ones.
When both the publishers and developers shamelessly insult the very fanbase playing their games as they did with the disastrous reveal of BFV, we should honestly expect nothing less than a poor product on their end.
I enjoyed bf5 and what it had to offer but it showed me how a bad first impression can sometimes screw over something in the long run. I just hope with the launch of 2042, they can hopefully polish it up more. But with some of the scummy practices that some companies do today, it might be a far fetched wish. Just my opinion
I want 2042 to be good so bad.. but I’ve been playing bf4 more lately and I hate to say it but it’s is much more fun. The state bf4 is currently in is near perfection for an FPS.
I would argue to my grave that BF4 was and still is one of the best FPS shooters ever. Countless weapons to use that even people like me with hundreds of hours haven’t used, well aged maps with destruction that not only looks cool, but actually shapes the game. Maps like Flood Zone for example, you can destroy the dam and it floods the bottom of the map with water, forcing you to use your secondary and be at a disadvantage. Or all the super fun gadgets like the suav, where you can fly a remote plane and with good aim, roadkill people from a safe spot, or all the types of fun explosives from grenade launchers, to rockets, or jeep stuff. It’s a shame that it will probably never be mentioned by EA again because China is in the game, and now that they are making a mobile game, they will do anything to appeal to them.
i dont agree with you, most servers (the few that are filled with people) consist of people who have been playing the game for years so if you start now you're gonna get seal-clubbed.
BF4 has been released in 2013, of course it's better and in top shape. Let's not forget BF4 was a disaster on release and had a whole special team focusing on fixing it.
Post review: Battlefield 2042 leaves a lot to be desired still in 2024, but ultimately the gunplay is in fact pretty flippin fun, kinda quick but different guns and you can change and adapt your role as you play in the match, it was an awesome idea for the weapon swap outs. Now, every player can fulfill a power fantasy high because the game does not restrict you to working with teammates. Ultimately many teams lose because the support roles aren't doing support role things like reviving. I would recommend 2042 for those who already own game pass, but for those without it, buy at your own risk, especially since they are already dropping support for the game, and for some awful reason doing another live service. The large lobbies are pretty fun, and here and there I'll pop into the smaller arena-eske modes and have some fun. The maps can sometimes feel awkward, some as if you can only use vehicles, others using vehicles is just a dumb idea. The Stadium rework for example makes the most conflicted zone inaccessible to vehicles, unless you're in a helicopter trying to spot people running on the arena portion of the stadium(The original map was better and had so much more flavor). At launch it was an absolute 0/10, i'd argue -5/10. In it's current day as a game it's a solid 8/10 As a Battlefield title it is a 5/10, the operators were clearly for a mode that got no love, every individual player can do so much damage that all it takes is one good player to turn the tide of the match. And ultimately movement and ttk is so fast that in a lobby of people who are good, vehicles can become virtually useless. It really does feel like it's trying to convert Cods audience frankly. Not knowing how to use the helicopters is also just a skill issue, but given this was the Beta I'm sure it was worse at that time. I again only recommend 2042 if it's on sale for under 40$, or you have Game Pass, outside of that I cannot really recommend it, go and play BF1. Y'all keep your heads up, make games and spread the joy of gaming Cheers!
If a beta sucks thete is no way that the launch is gonna duck even more like literally there is no way, it could be the same nut how the hell can it be worse?????
I remember the Medal of Honor Warfighter "Beta" which was acually really good, and players seem to like it, than the game came out and was garbadge. Idk why but it felt of compared to the "Beta", to this day i can't beleave what happend to it.
For real this game literally has no destruction compared to BC2. That game had no boundaries you can legit blow up the objective if you wanted and the movement also fit the pace of the game perfectly, also the game wasn't a buggy mess on launch.
And they also said that early versions of BF3 were tested with up to 128 players, and feedback was that it wasn’t very fun. 10 years later and it seems to still be true: as an XB1 player I had less issues with the map design or finding enemies than people on the 128 player version of the map had. Without the input lag, last-gen 2042 might end up being the best version of the game and I think that’s hilarious.
That was originally what it looked like, but damn did the first CG trailer of Battlefield 2042 make everyone believe it to be the CoD killer. Halo Infinite is gonna be the true winner of FPSs this holiday.
@@generalcjg I don't understand how people still get suckered into trailers as if it proves that the game is going to be amazing. My friend was always splooging about Cyberpunk 2077 for 3-4 years as if he was a kid in a candy shop. Look how that game turned out. He quietly played it, never said anything about it, and hasn't played it since release
@@alfresh707 a Series X console though. New to late 2020 and early 2021. If it was a 2013 xbox i would understand but its not This shit cant be excused.
ART Ificial Studio I shouldn't have to own a high end PC to play a game advertised on console (old and new gen) for the game to not like tiger electronics.
@@justasimplemanworkinghiswa1569 game sucked ass on pc as well, virtually no fucking performance change between settings on a 1650 super and the game ran at like 20fps with all these shitty bugs included
In this game, the floor felt like more of suggestion than an actual object. I played the first day on xbox one and 60% of the enemies i saw had their feet inside the ground. Unbelievable how it can be shown to the public in this state
Me and a friend were in a scout vechile we somehow clipped through the ground. When we got out of the vechille we were stuck under the ground in a swimming animation could swim through the entire bottoms of the map it was fucked
the beta build that was shown is a couple of months old. they’ve released new footage of the actual game for release and it it far more polished and refined
@@Oscar-yk6ww they didn't make any comment on last-gen systems performancd in their update piece. I hope it's fixed for the sake of those who don't have a next gen console but the cynic in me says it won't be
I agree, except I would go a step further and say he's far surpassed anything Angry Joe has done in years imo... and he does it with a lot less shouting!
This makes Halo's grievances and caveats look nearly invisible. I can't believe people are nitpicking so hard about social grenade hitmarkers and forge when THIS is the product of four major studios in the ABSENCE of a campaigns. Holy fucking shit.
Sometimes, it's a lot easier to make a single player campaign than a multiplayer experience. Makes you wish they still have a campaign... a good campaign.
I partially agree, but Halo Infinite being decent compared to two incredibly broken games doesn't mean that criticisms of it are "nitpicking". Forge/co-op not being in on launch is a legitimate complaint, Act Man himself constantly talks about how games should come out as finished products, including in this very video.
@@NarutoninjaXV Here's the thing, forge and coop are side features, coop was just tacked on in CE, and forge was only there in like 3, that's not to downplay these features and say they aren't good features but they aren't at all important, I'd rather my game run and function properly and the content come out whenever it's ready than have to play a shitty, broken coop or forge mode. The same people who plead, cry and beg for coop and forge at launch are going to be the same ones to shit themselves whining about it when it turns out that it released broken because the devs DIDN'T delay it to work on it like they wanted to/should've.
@@MichelleHell One year Battlefield 2042 had 3 years of development and 4 other big studios working on it. Do you know that Vanguard had only 13-14 months of development.DICE even said "Were 5 months ahead of schedule" and gets delayed for a month. And BF5 was released in November 2018. And BF2042 is going to come out in November 2021.
Love how I can land a helicopter and as soon as it touches the ground it spontaneously combusts for no reason. Any aircraft is just constantly being locked onto as soon as u spawn in because there’s no proper range on the anti air weapons.
I played it on PS4, l couldn't even achieve a avarage 30 FPS, this alone made me quit out of many issues. I know lm on old gen but this shouldn't be released on last gen, no the to mention l still feel like the graphics of BF3 looked better on my PS3
@@nunorocha3076 same. Even PS3 looked way better than this shit. Also, the Specialist system sucks major ass, and it should go back to the class system.
back in the day games didn't took this long to make. it's says that game nowadays take like 5-6 years to make, which is why we get so many broken games today cause everyone rushes as if it's the end of the world, mw2019 took like 4 years to make and it was amazing, every single game was going to be amazing if they didn't rush.
I remember in bf1 me and my friends were so fucking immersed when playing operations that we were literally fucking screaming at our screens at the end of the game and barely winning, taking the final objective with a handful of respawns left. That shit was so cool and probably the most fun I've ever had in a game but 2042 was just dooky and i have refunded my preorder of it to save my money and sanity. What a train wreck
Never pre-order! How many times do games has to suck, fail, crash, or be 1/3 of the game that was promised? Wait for the game to come out, be reviewed, then make the choice. Don't let enybody fool you by promesing stuff, make them prove it first before you give them money.
Hypocrite in the making people Guess what also released in a buggy as fuck state BF1 and so did all the other bf games Don’t hate the game hate the developers who do this
@@weepingdiscord6969 you are correct my friend i am certain bf2042 will be fixed and corrected down the line but i am not paying that money at the start of it life cycle when it is currently broken and shit
@@weepingdiscord6969 nah dude at release (at least for ps4) bf1 was some of the most fun I’ve had in a game, and the dlc was amazing and could have been released on their own
People saying "it's just a beta" and "it's an old build": How the fuck are we supposed to give relevant, meaningful feedback if we're play testing an outdated build? The things gamers excuse nowadays infuriate me. Our standards are so low, but I feel it can go even further beyond. Christ, gaming in the last five-ish years have conditioned us to put up with shit that shouldn't stand.
People saying “how can we give feedback if it”s an old build?” and “this game is SHIT”: How the fuck can u really complain about an old build? Is like if u saw a movie, with no textures or low res textures, no sound, and still complained about it…when it’s the result of only being just touched by the post production team, same thing, this is an old build, things right now can be actually quite better, good performance, maybe not PERFECT because there is no PERFECT game but being decent and really good. The thing that toxic gamers use to throw shit at anything new they see and get their hands on.
@@sebastianlopezgarcia3937 Definition of a Beta: "A pre-release software that is given out to a large group of users to try under real conditions. Beta versions are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as a result of feedback." In other words, betas exist so the devs can get our feedback which includes criticism. The reason people get mad when they see games in this state isn't cause they want to shit on the game for the sake of it. We want to see the issues which are there fixed so the game can be made better. If a product is released to the public, beta or not, especially from a large studio like DICE, everyone has a right to have high expectations. Battlefield 1's Beta suffered from less than half the issues and it was fair to give criticism then, why not now?
@@ZFGImmersive yeah, i understand that about people wanting those issues been fixed, but then again, why the hate? Why throw shit? The guy that created this post basically is just throwing shit at the game, and in some way, even tho the act man said he is not throwing hate or shit to the game, the act man himself it’s actually doing it too; i’ve followed the series for a long time now, so i do want to see this game being successful, but it’s not fair to say that everything with BF 2042 is wrong in a BETA state and not a full and complete version with everything on it, if people start to say that of the final product when it launches then fine, i mean, it’s the launch of the game, IT IS IN FACT expected to be working at that point, but in a BETA to say that EVERYTHING WITH THE GAME IS WRONG? It’s like criticizing the appearance of when only the base ingredients of a cake are just thrown into a bowl to make the dough and the frosting is not even made, the baker will do everything in his power to make a delicious cake, same with this game, we just need to wait for the final product, criticize the final product, not the beta product, give feedback, don’t throw shit, there’s a fine line in those two terms, if people just say “it’s shit and everything is wrong with it” how the devs will take that? That ain’t feedback, being upset at something CANNOT influence the rating of something if you’re trying to be critical, with only saying “this and that and that and that has to be fixed” is enough, but saying textually “EVERYTHING IS WRONG” it’s like “WTF man??? We can’t change and REDO the whole game now” and even if people joke about saying this not feeling like a beta but an alpha, it doesn’t change anything, THIS IS STILL NOT THE FULL AND FINAL PRODUCT
battlefield 1 was the peak of their single player experience and bf4 was the peak of their multiplayer experience. the direction they are going now they will NEVER top those two games
Series lost its appeal to me after Bad Company 2. I really loved BF2 and Vietnam also. I'm old enough to remember the world of gaming before rushed games and micro transactions
@@Fantax92 same here. After 1942, Vietnam and 2 no other Battlefield game touched me the way those 3 did. Just not the same feeling. I was waiting for 2042 for (1942) portal, but it's a mess and plays nothing like 1942. Well... i need to look more into Squad/HLL/Post Scriptum or Enlisted for that kind of a simpler and more hardcore "Battlefield Experience". In my book "simpler" doesn't mean bad. As is cluttered (new titles) vs simpler and not cluttered older titles.
@@engage1942 squad is definitely the best option if you're wanting a more authentic and classic shooter type experience. I have like 500+ hrs in the game and never had a dull moment. Some glitches but nothing like 2042.
If people keep buying unfinished, unpolished, buggy games, then that's exactly what you'll keep getting. Over and over and over again. I haven't bought a "new" EA game for years now.
@Hugo Sr2123 And should a game be this fucked up 4 months from launch? Don't start calling people names. The moment you do, you admit you don't have a point
@@a0000a1234 I played most of the full beta period and rarely had any issues. Maybe only one or two times was something literally game breaking to the point I couldn't play the game. Any other issues I came across were very minor (and presumably easy enough to fix within a month) or worth keeping in the game because they add to the "battlefield moments."
Considering even 1942 in 2002 was a cool game but it was pretty clunky compared to its peers at the time, that’s all they have to fix. Make a solid game because the core battlefield gameplay is great fun
That's because they don't look at it as mistakes. Why change anything when there just gonna take 6 months to fix it make millions of dollars and players are gonna play/love the game anyway?
@@lepemeselehto4040 Ye he said the beta for BFV, BFV itself is alright. I actually remember the BFV beta had cooler uniforms for their soldiers, in comparison to the release at least.
@@BigMarquise bf5 is wayyyy more enjoyable experience than anything 2042 gave me in the beta, 5 its actually a solid game now, best movement and gunplay in the series
@@nicolaslabra2225 BF5 was heading in a good direction with the Pacific update, granted there were alot of issues regarding choppy animations and weapon/vehicle balance, but it was what got me back into playing the game. Then DICE pulled the plug.
not mind blowing, this is what happens when hordes of seniour devs leave the company together, same thing happened to Bioware. Lets just hope it doesnt happen to Respawn. Most of the work in BF2042 was done by juniour devs, new recruits and interns. Plus they're Swedish so they won't break their backs like the Japanese or Koreans to brute force the game into working condition within launch date.
@@Killroy007 EA overworking them and treating them like s**t is why they left. However in short-term, seniour devs leaving the team has much worse consequences. Apart from ruining workflow, it ruins morale, chemistry, etc. This is why Bioware, Dice, Blizzard are unlikely to recover.
i’ve played the 5 beta, enjoyed it, bought the game on console and pc, enjoyed it thoroughly, not to say i didn’t enjoy bf1 i just preferred the ww2 weaponry personally
@@chainex_1337 Yeah that's not what he's talking about anyways. It's the way the game was marketed and the stupid decisions DICE made in terms of that game. The pattern seems to stick here as well. Tho at least this time there doesn't seem to be a cringy "EvERyoNeS BaTtLEfIEld"
@blue yellow Can you read? Also comparing the bugs that BF1 had to BF4 is extremely daft. Yes. BF1 did have bugs in beta. Nothing even remotely close to what happened with 4 or 2042 now. So it's not people forgetting. It's people remembering. DICE died with BF1 when the devs left. This is just a husk of what's left.
@blue yellow And the only launch problems BF1 had were people up and arms cause there was a black dude on the cover, some hit detection issues and the classic EA servers.
The amount of times I’ve shot at my team mate thinking it was an enemy for a split second. The specialist system in the game can be summed up with the Spider-Man pointing meme.
But dude! We gotta sell the skins! How long do you think until the specialists look like something out of fortnite? Gotta get the 10 year old kids with access to their parents credit cards buying them after all.
Can someone answer me. Why is it so hard for game developers to launch a game that actually WORKS during launch ? Seriously, WHY IS IT SO HARD AND WHY DOES THIS KEEP REPEATING ?
@@bigsmoke8816 Okay but how can they release the game in that state and think to themselves, “Yeah this game is good“ ? How are they so confident in releasing a game in such a horrible state?
What I remember about playing Battlefield 2042's beta is...
is how broken it was...
Also if you watched my Vanguard video then you know I thought Battlefield 2042 was gonna MURDER Call of Duty this year like they did with Battlefield 1. But... I could never have prepared myself for what I witnessed...
GG man. I’ll probably pick up 2042 in a couple months if they fixed it by then.
Do a revisit of shadow of war. You treated it to harshly
@@galaxspace1 I call it Battlezone 2042.
Relax it's just a beta
Welp it murders something alright it murdered our expectations for a battlefield game I mean this beta makes bf4 at launch look sane and 2042s launch will be cancer I guarantee. Cod is just boring at this point what’s there to be hyped about anymore it seams like gaming is just dying out from a forced death
Had 2 copies of battlefield 2042 in my car and someone broke in and left 2 more
The horror 😆
good joke
This comment is simply masterpiece
What does that mean? They happened to have them on their person and accidentally dropped them in there while going through your car? Sell them then idiot
Ended up leaving money for you. Like here’s my condolences. Good luck😢
I'm convinced EA was making a battlefield Battle-Royale game, and they decided to change it last minute and turn it into a mainline entry in the series.
Its sad that this actually makes the most sense
Lmaoo never thought of it that way but now that you say it, I think that might have been the case lolol. Game is a mess and probably the worst beta I’ve ever played.
I’m pretty sure that is actually what happened according to early leaks
Feels like EA and DICE were real fuck jealous of Infinity Ward of how well MW2019 and Warzone did.MW2019 sold 58M copies and Warzone had 200m Downloads.
We're seeing experiencing all of this right now
@@wolfmelody2787 fr? Where did you find out?
I'm actually impressed DICE managed to make the first stop-motion animation fps!
Claymation mate😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹
Halo 5
@@Espartanica halo 5 smooth as butter
@@marilynveno3827 Halo 5 15 FPS on anything 20 feet away.
The original Xbox One can't really handle it well.
@@Espartanica damn that would suck haha I got the series x
Imagine taking player feedback after releasing a broken, unplayable mess that even the core gameplay doesn't slightly resemble previous games, and responding to it with "Your expectations are brutally unrealistic"
At this point, I honestly belive that me and a few of my drinking buddies could make a better bf game... no experience in game design, but honesly at least it would feel like bf, well more than this anyway
@@comradesam3382 i think it would be more fun if you legit just kidnapped them and sent them to an irl battlefield because at least the physics work
@@igunn8632 at that point the hitboxes also work
@@igunn8632 I m laughing at this too much for some reason XD
Reply 5
The fact they removed campaign for more “resources” and still fuck up is terrifying. What next, are they gonna remove the storm?
Bo4 2.0 ?
Let’s remove guns so we can focus on melee and veachels
great idea! remove all the gimmicky eye candy and focus on the NETCODE yet again...smfh
Im telling you guys, just play movie battles 2 jedi academy mod instead, dont waste your time and money with these sort of games by these publishers, i dont know why you guys insist on then, its insane
@@hazardlizard2552 games I like are ones I enjoy personally. Some are bad, I will admit, but battlefield 2042 just seems fucking terrible at its current state
Until people stop paying 70$ for an unfinished game this will keep happening..
Yeah I'm tried of the whole "got to buy this week's new shiny cause that's what everyone is talking about". What's worse is consumer habits is the major key to the garbage we see today. If people are going to buy garbage, companies aren't going to stop making garbage.
I much prefer BF1 than this shit. Though that game is unfortunately SWARMING with hackers
@@riatorex8722 Really?I been playing BF1 for a long time and have never encountered a single hacker in the game,but it’s probably because I play on Xbox.What platform do you play on??
@@ChavitoFlacito04 PC. Asian server
@@ChavitoFlacito04 ye, probably because you play in a different server, i encountered many and many invisible dudes shooting at me through the wall from miles away lol. I'm not even joking, literal floating guns, it's not like my PC isn't rendering him or anything
This video has aged extremely well.
The title itself said it
I came here to see if anyone said this exact thing
@@jamestruthbernard this game is absolute fucking trash. I’m actually disappointed they were fine with releasing this poor excuse of a FPS
aged like fine wine
Wait so its still bad? Lol i was hoping theyd make it way better by launch?
Turns out... it's still a mess, an absolute mess. As a 20 year veteran of the Battlefield franchise, this breaks my heart, but in a way it makes me laugh out loud because it is sooooo fuuuuuucking bad. The Patreon comment about the ladders fits perfectly, how dense you have to be to fuck up LADDERS!? I mean... LADDERS!?!?!?!?
Wait... how is it still an absolute mess? I have near negative expectations for the game, but it kept driven down and down.
@@chrinaldi I don't have the game myself, but it seems like the devs have just given up. The game has less players than bf1, bfV and even less than bf4 at times. The game is just unsalvageable, which is a shame.
@@dovahkiin52 dude you don't even own the game. Stop commenting on it
@@lennartmook9182 I would have bought it, if the game was any good. The devs deserve every bit of critique people give them for creating such a horrible game.
20 years? Jesus, this must be a betrayal.
this makes me appreciate 343 & MS for delaying Halo Infinite
Its nice that halo is shaping up to be the king FPS this year. But I wish battlefield was in better shape I really do.
Infinite isn't even out yet I bet it's gonna have a bad launch, remember the launch of MCC
Honestly I feel all these shooters felt lackluster, cod, halo and battlefield just feel meh to me now
@@phurion. let's wait and see
@@phurion. MCC was 4 games packed into one before 343 was ready lol.
BF 2042: *is a complete buggy mess*
Cyberpunk: *"Are you challenging me?"*
Sonic Colors Ultimate: *Are you challenging me??**
@Joe Teller the future is now
First time?
@@thephantomgamingbros.6329 FIFA 22: Are you challenging me
Bit outdated now that cyberpunk is completely fixed.
Bruh, you haven’t gone this hard on a game since Halo 5. Hilarious
Halo 5 was so much better than this.
@@amadoromero4823 less buggy
@@amadoromero4823 fr this looks embarrassing
Agreed it’s functional compared to this
He destroyed cyberpunk too lol
"The final product is more important than the launch project" - imagine if that logic were taken to any other industry. Restaurants. Movies. Automotive industry. Travel.
DONT GIVE THEM IDEAS!
@@Lithuanian_NAFO_lad man you stole what I was going to say
@@joltyjivs1518 sorry,
Sweet Jesus, I just got a picture in my head when you said "Automotive Industry"
"Yeah, I know that hundreds of our cars have spun out and killed passengers, but come on, guys. We're still learning here. The final product is always more important than the launch product!"
Of course, a bad video game by no means is equivalent to deadly defective car, but it does show how stupid that mindset can be.
Unfortunately by “Largest dev team ever”, DICE just means most overly complex mess ever produced. Worst part is they’ll pin it on employees, layoffs ensue, and the managers and executives get fat bonuses for this decision making.
Yeah, largest dev team ever along with the challenges of working remotely due to covid is probably the root cause for the mess this is.
@@dbw166 that’s no excuse , u are given the tools to still do your job and the difference is u not in the same place…
I will use one example, South Park does an episode in 1 week - that includes writing , animation , voice recording, mixing etc and they too had to work during lockdown but still pulled it off…so the lockdown excuse doesn’t cut it bud considering they had YEARS to develop the game , cod comes out every year and these guys had years including big teams and still fuk up… no excuses!!
This industry is fucked im pretty sure not all others can follow this ridiculous notion
To be fair, i was fucking diying of laughther because the game looked like an schizofrenics acid trip, and also i think it is the Xbox versión the one that's broken beyond repair but still you are completly right this is unaceptable and all the Blame should fall on the higher ups
EA offers more creative freedom to Dice because they make more money. Most of the controversy with Dice recently had been because of Dice Sweden, their LA branch kicks ass though
Jesus finally someone who wasn’t payed by EA speaking up. I want this game to work so I want them to actually listen to the community
Well, there is the TH-camr Wildcat, but he isn't ripping nearly as hard as The Act Man.
@@renanvinicius6036 Probably because they're used to playing AAA games that are basically unfinished and broken at release, also known as other Battlefield games (excluding BF1).
DWTerminator ripped this EA/DICE's BF2042 Open Beta real good. :)
@@orangeairsoft7292 Or just because they receive the game earlier to make content.
I agree with the video, but every time I read "x is paid by y to say it's good" I cannot stop laughing,
Ceer up, man, where do you think we live, in the 1984 book?
“Don’t worry, this is just a beta, most of these issues will be gone by launch.”
“The game did launch.”
“What.”
"This was not animated by a 12-year-old using SFM for the first time."
As a 20-year-old that uses SFM, I felt personally attacked.
I haven't heard about SFM in a while.
@@mycat2781 ...I mean... Russianbadger?
Lmao
@@redtailcoatenjoyer6797 I still watch that dude
EA is probbaly using 5yo from china as labor to reduce costs
“My Grandmother Can Do Better Than That, AND SHE’S DEAD!!”
-Gordon Ramsey
"Where's the lamb SAUCE?!" - Gordan Ramsey
“Put it back in the oven for another year”
-Gordon Ramsay on Battlefield 2042
"You fucking donkey"
-Gordon ramsey
Gordon Ramsay- “What are you?”
DICE- “An idiot sandwich”
"it's dry as a camels arse"
- Gordon Ramsay
It's fucking hilarious how many people were defending this game when Act Man was exposing the bugs and glitches. Beta back then =/= Beta today. Nowadays a Beta is just early access.
rly? I think beta nowadays is just a mean to promote the game. I mean, how can they work on beta feedbacks in like a month or few weeks before the release date?
Not to mention, it's hilarious to see how fanboys' expectation goes down the shitter when they think it's ok to release a broken game in day-1. I don't remember buying any NES or PS1 game that's broken at launch and the dev said "it's gonna fix soon, trust us!"
Most betas are demos or in all actually realy just server stress tests. A beta a month before launch is a demo. That is the product you are getting on launch unless they put out a day 1 patch that fixes the issues. Back4blood went gold during its "beta" which is hilarious. Beta is a buzzword anymore and doesn't really represent where the product actually is at in its development cycle. At least it isn't for these "triple A publishers"
No, a beta is not early access, it’s mostly today there to generate hype for the game before launch and it will be almost the exact same game at launch day.
@@Icetea-2000 right it's essentially a demo with a buzzword on it
Beta = game testing by costumer.
I think the Hit Registration should not be Changed, it's beautiful really. It feels like your in Movie where everyone is shooting each other face to face yet the bullets somehow miss. It's beautiful, also rage inducing, but Beautiful.
Yea imagine having good aim but the game punishes you because it wants to be "realistic" lmao
It's trash and that's it
The best thing about 2042 is that it got loads of people back playing BF1. Seriously did everyone with any idea how to make a Battlefield game leave after BF1 or something?
@wiresss I didn't know that. Hopefully whatever they're working on turns out well.
@Lucy Ducy To be fair to that guy, they might have been holding his job over his head if he didn’t defend the game and rep it as best as he could.
Saw an article on the BF2042 subreddit that over 60% of Battlefield 2042 designers joined after BF1. Over 20% joined during 2042’s development.
Explains a lot. The OG DICE is gone.
Yeah I looked into it and almost all of the developers from earlier left
Yes, basically
I’m from the future and I can tell you that Battlefield 2042 didn’t get delayed, but it launched as a shitty broken Modern Warfare rip off.
This game is nothing like mw
If only it was like MW it might've been a decent game.
@@wanderingwobb6300 MW was miserable
@@dylfps It was decent. It was a return to form to the manner of the CoD4/MW2/MW3
@@dylfps Compared to BF2042, MW is a solid game.
“Adapt to a world transformed by disorder…” -Battlefield 2042
Damn, I didn’t know they were gonna take that to heart.
Total accurate...
Fun fact : tf2 map creators have made ladders and have made well working functions for them in a 15 year old game, BF2024 is brand new and the ladders barely work with a whole team of developers
The funny thing is, aside from the bugs, this game doesn't look anymore advanced than Battlefield 3. Which came out ELEVEN years ago.
I’m both happy, and saddened to be able to say I lived through a time in which games used to be completely finished, (appropriately) bug free, and instantly playable on release day. Man those were the days
Good times when developers didn't had the option to update the game later. Of course it had its cons, but at least most studios did their best to release the game as good as possible. Even if the game was bad for any reason, it was finished.
Nowadays every release is a gamble moment for the customers. Only after the release we get sure if the trailers were actually real or just a scam.
Agreed
Remember when pre orders were actually viable?
@The Rotten💯 there was a brief period of like three years before it turned into.... This
@@Ederazdshuhds if the trailers were a lie, you mean like 2042
i like when he says its the worst multiplayer experience, but corrects himself to fps because he remembers Anthem lol
Honestly if you compare the trailers of Battlefield 2042 with this game its shaping up to be the Anthem 2.And Even on RTX 3090 Trailer it can barely run at 30 FPS .
Don't know what's gonna happen to this on November 19.
Edit:
It's the worst Battlefield in History according to Angry Joe himself
@@ChandranPrema123 I'm predicting the game undersells (might not be a flop, but to EA, underselling might as well be) and has major player drop off within a month.
And Cyberpunk
@@thundageon5962 Cyberpunk was Single Player
@@ChandranPrema123 This is incorrect, I played the open beta with an RTX 3080 with 100+ fps and didn't experience the bugs he was having probably because I was on a PC and the trailer is probably rendered and exported at 30fps but I agree that they have to work on the console version a lot more.
Three months later and this is still a well aged video. Well done Acting Male Man
37:03 No joke, when he pointed out that Orbital was a medium-sized map, a loud police siren rang right outside my house. I can’t think of any other warning sign better than that.
Lol
Coincidence, I think not
Our standards have fallen so low that simply releasing a finished game with no bugs is already considered an achievement worthy of praise.
And i think that was the worst mistske from our part
Well yeah because with every new game, the standards are higher, more ceilings need to be broken, the modern limits are pushed, more innovation and creativity is required so naturally, these things will come with consequences.
Some of these games will have bugs… as long as they are willing to fix it and polish it even more, I’m willing to be patient.
@@LegendInThaMakin uhm...no? That's like accepting an unfinished thesis because "the standards are higher, more ceilings need to be broken, the modern limits are pushed" and telling the guy to finish it later. It's not just about the bugs for gods sake. Did you watch the video, fuck nut?
Hell, releasing a finished game with only a few minor bugs makes it a legendary game (BF1 for instance)
@@bananasaur5209 you don’t have to accept the unfinished thesis. Just like you don’t have to play 2042. I’m simply choosing to be a bit understanding if there are bugs that come with this game. Played bf for like a decade, things may not come out perfect at first but the team does eventually work hard to listen to the community, and iron things out and make the game a lot better over time. I calmly applaud the innovation and offer fair critics like a rational human being.
There is no need to be so emotional and angry, relax kid.
This legit looks like a game you'd expect to have micro transactions and was free to play
Warface lol
@@mercenarygundam1487 literal p2w amirite
They gonna have hella microtransactions bc that's what apex legends did
Wrong
except it looks like a full-price game that will have micro transaction later. (Because EA)
To the people saying that "he hates battlefield", if someone criticizes something it probably means they want it to get better and care for it
This guy was a fan of bf1 btw
Exactly, that's usually why anyone criticizes ANYTHING.
The internet historian greatest trilogy
-The fall of 76
-The fall of 77
-The fall of 42
Lmao
History has a tendency to repeat itself
The rise of ∞
Been waiting for the fall of 77 for a year now
👀
Even if the beta was perfect without any bugs or issues, the whole specialist system has killed most of my hype. It feels like a shitty hero shooter to me, not BF. Not to mention everyone is playing as Mackay, killing any immersion I had.
Just like COD at this point
@@mixkid3362 Remember when cod had actually varying factions, and designated looks depending on the class you were running? it kinda sucks now sadly
Mackey looks like a beta male. Should put real men instead
@@callmekellen8053 they have the factions though in vanguard they’re removing it hell I’d rather have the ghost systems than that but they’re definitely gonna change it
If they had to have specialist they should’ve done it like Modern Warfare
It's sad when basic functionality becomes a feature to be added sometime after launch.
Omg that hit hard
It really is. Downright pathetic. But on launch day there's gonna be a bunch of streamers playing it with their shocked, wide-eyed, open-mouthed faces on the thumbnails of their videos acting like they're having the time of their lives. And it'll still be in raggedy shape.
@@Xayjohns Streamers AKA paid shills.
10:37 It's rare because most players hate the game so much they don't stay around the 10 seconds to see it
People keep saying "ItS aN oLd BuIlD", but why would they use a broken old build to advertise a game that's supposed to be released next month?
That’s the most logical question against this statement and the answer is, they are lying!
Exactly first impressions is Everything
It got leaked that they were indeed lying. The beta was from mid September.
Its a Beta....thats literally what a Beta is by definition lmao
@@OhNoMrKoolaidMan a broken, shitty, new build beta
See, my issue with all this is the basic mistakes being forgiven. We are actually reaching the point where basic features working is like a gift from the gods.
It's weird that we live in a day and she where everyone's standards are so low for video games now. I don't even know when it started to be like this.
@@acummings114 It started when the Video game companies became Greedy (its inevitable)
I agree. The standards for a lot of people are rock bottom for games these days. It doesn't even have to work properly, just provide some meme entertainment for a bit and that's good enough for $80 apparently. It makes it easy for me to pass, even on my old favorite franchises, because the quality just isn't there.
Is it just an insatiable need for "new" content or are people genuinely happy to pay for broken incomplete games that strip out features from previous iterations..? I honestly don't know.
@@TheMistyBlueLounge $80? People are paying $80 for games nowadays?
Part of it I think is that PC didn't have a looot of these bugs. Most of our bugs were UI and loadout selection based. I imagine a lot of the people saying that it really isn't that bad, played PC. I was one of those till I saw the videos of consoles. PC it was pretty nice honestly. Console is a nightmare. I feel bad for the console people.
Y’all remember when a beta come out around June/July and if there was issues, they would have them fixed by November and the game was fun and playable at launch. Good ole days
Name one game as you mention because that's a lie.
@@originaldelta literally halo infinite
That they ended up DELAYING
Thats why good company is
@@SovietUnion_ it's not out yet so yes my point still stands ever since betas have been started they have never worked
@@originaldelta you got me wrong, betas do work, not in case of CoDfield 2042 however
Ole
21:30
POV:your playing you nintendo DS at 3 am and your mom is walking to your room
When someone says you only hated the beta because you're bad at the game:
"I've have experienced countless bugs, glitches, and immersion breaking spectacles throughout all of my playtime in this beta"
"But what's your K/D"
Also don't forget the peeps who say "are you console or pc" lmao 😂🤣
Not to mention the expectancy of being able to do well while trying to comprehend what the actual fuck is happening on the screen
If their was a scoreboard I could tell you my k/D
"But what's your K/D" - 🤣 Uhm, we play classes and squads here and accept SPM and PTFO.
@@Br08281997 And that argument doesn't even work this time around, since the beta was even worse on pc. Major stuttering and god awful performance.
Battlefield fans get blinded before every game’s release. They already forgot how DICE spit in the fan’s faces and called them bigots for criticizing BF5
Edit: EA called the fans bigots, not dice, my bad
Banalfield fanboys never change
Dude at least battlefield 5 was functional, had classes and satisfying gunplay. Acting like this isn't worse than every single game before it times 10 is just willful ignorance. 🙄
@@SaltySeaCaptain yeah BFV gunplay and infantry movement was top 2 in the series
Again not dice EA
@@torywilliams2103 you sound like another type of fanboy with glorious excuse lol
This aged well. Angry Joe just had an aneurism ranting about the early access
Ah, another person who saw dear Joe goes nuclear about BF 20-42 fps.
@@phillipcaihoang8845 don't forget hoverfield 2042 hovercraft
@@blitzkriegc1112 The Hovercraft War, I remember it well.
And now he's probably depressed because BF was his favorite FPS game of the genre
Like seriously Battlefield, DICE, what the hell is going on in the studio? Why did you degrade so low from the greats BF3,4, BC2 and even 1 in 2016!
To the buggy, controversial and unfun game that the BFV was, and now you give us this?! 2042? How the hell in 4 years do you get as low as the COD games nowadays in standards?
No wonder AngryJoe was having a passionate rant
When playing the beta, I TRIED my hardest to say positive. I was looking for hood things about the game and I just didn’t stop playing because I knew I probably wasn’t paying 60 bucks for the full game. When the beta ended, I realized just how bad it really was
You can tell that they are making video games like products on an assembly line whereas they used to be made by groups of people with passion for their work, the 2000-2012/2015ish era for games was better than what we’ve gotten lately
early 2000s to 90s were peak gaming change my mind
Video games aren’t the same no more makes me sad and not really encouraging to look forward to new games
Yeah you can tell all passion is gone and it's just a money making machine. I realized this in 2015 when every game started doing the same thing. Oh Fortnite is big? Well let's all copy that hype. Not to mention there's been nothing new as of late. All these games are the same. First person shooters with different maps. I can't recall the last time some crazy new idea popped up like a medieval rpg or something like a new Western game. It's all just easy shooters to get money
@@spaghettisauce1104 new world is pretty fun man..that and Valheim with a bunch of friends is super fun. I highly recommend since the latter is very indie. :)
Just gotta find the niche stuff.
And you'll really love VRchat if you wanna just be social and make friends, even without a headset. It's worth.
Today I have a class scheduled to learn sign language so I can communicate with people who are either Mute or socially anxious. And then meditation afterwards at 8pm :)
Little stuff like that is what really brings community together.
Art classes and game programming classes and such being held by people who are passionate. And are needed more than ever these days.
@DOSboi Aidan it baffles me that there are so many unexplored genres in games that I've wanted since like 2000. I mean youre gunna tell me no company is gunna try and make a tripe A wild west game besides rockstar or a pirate game besides Ubisoft? Sucker punch is the only recent company that I can think of that's even pulled off a good samurai game in the last decade.
It’s worrying when a game over 5 years older not only runs better but looks better
Yeah. Feels like EA/Dice completely replaced the people who made the game from 5 years ago.
It runs better probably because there's more stuff going on in 2042 tbf
@@sirtoxic5147 that’s not a excuse?
@@brotherhoodofsteel5254 Do you know how creating games and making them run properly works bro? Not excusing a company as big as them, but still I feel like you don't on a scale of a game such as this lol. Plus, who even said I was excusing them?
@@sirtoxic5147 you are making a excuse on why the game runs poorly, battlefield 1 was a huge game for the time and it wasn’t nearly as bad as this
Why is nobody talking about the fact that every single new game that comes out is broken, underwhelming, disappointing or just not fun? The whole industry is in shambles
Sad things is that unless some divine intervention comes and starts regulating video games without being paid by these companies. Its gonna stay like this forever
They will follow the cash
Halo was good
People need to vote with their wallets and have some discipline. This incessant need to consume needs to fucking stop.
na forza probably has the most passionate developers out of any game studio rn imo.
Act Man has several videos on the topic ("Decline of Gaming") comes to mind. There are probably some other guys out there but yeah it's mind blowing how such an obvious and problematic topic is not properly addressed; it feels like everybody, and not just IGN and Metacritic collaborators, is bribed by gaming companies
I had a friend in high school who wanted to become a game developer and started to make a horror game alongside her boyfriend. It was pretty basic and in her own words, generic: a haunted mansion with a bunch a different ghosts in it. They were making the game on weekends; sometimes I helped with some parts of the script; she used the Unreal Engine in the most basic way possible. Unfortunately, I've moved on and lost contact with the two, but let me tell you: three highschoolers with minimal knowledge on game making could make a much better PRE-ALPHA than an open beta to a multi-million videogame.
"Don't worry, bro. It's just a beta. They'll fix it by launch."
I’m getting some serious “No mans sky” PTSD from this comment
"Don't worry, it's EA, they'll break it beyond recognition by launch, and then throw a slot machine on top of it's fetid corpse!"
No, they will not fix haha because is EA
Insert Soyjak here
Add required copium emote here.
I love that we actually have someone criticizing the game and not “welp, I hate it but I’m a fanboy so it’s a good game”. It’s honestly sad and disappointing seeing the communities standards on video games has dramatically lowered.
@EmperorXtreme 🤨
@EmperorXtreme Yo bro are you okay in the head?
I don’t think it’s expectation here. Dice said that the build of this beta was months old and that the issues seen there is fixed. I still am confident that the issues are indeed fixed.
That's actually most of the criticism I've seen and they still just say "It's just a beta. It's a 3 month old build" and they'll go blow $60 on it and then complain why it is glitchy. Cyberpunk 2077 all over again
@@hopelessent.1700 Bruh you couldn't fix half of these issues in one month, nothing will be changed dramatically, a beta that's 1 month from release is what the full game will play like
after bf5 who could have ever guessed this?
Sadly noo
Idk I knew it was gonna be not great but not terrible
Idk
bf5 was good you're just a whiney little b
Tbf the BF5 beta was pretty fun… am I the only one? It was super crap but fun
Remember when EA said that this game will be a love letter for the dedicated fans all over the world? Now we know how much love they got for us
When you finally realize you are the battered spouse in an abusive relationship.
If this game was supposed to be a love letter, then BF1 was had to have been a throat purring, passionate blowjob in comparison.
I think the words EA was searching for is “flaming sack of shit at the doorstep of dedicated fans.”
Sounds like many of the consumers and suckers they keep supporting these companies
Exactly what I heard during my parent anniversary after drunken physical brawl last night
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You gotta love the fact that even Totally Accurate Battle Simulator, a game in which the whole fun is that it is broken, is not as broken as this!
The makers of tabs just accepted and made glitches an element in the game 😂 or was it goat simulator🤔
Same thing with payday 2
Cyberpunk 2077: is the most buggy recently developed release of all time
EA: You're not taking number 1 from me!
Lol
@Hugo Sr2123 if the game takes 3 years to make you think maybe 3 months before release it would be almost done ? You're dumb kid
Let’s not go that far
@@butterfinger4393 it's happened before tho.
@Hugo Sr2123 It’s ass and you damn well know it.
There is nothing I hate more than people in denial.
Battlefield 1 truly was a masterpiece, it's so sad to see how Battlefield has just gone down hill so fast. BF1 was soooooo much fun
It still is incredibly fun to jump into operations on Pc
@@israelmxc Impossibke to find a full match bf1
Bf1 mightve been the most mainstreamed game. It sucks balls in so many different ways that bf4 avoided
@@dream_killer-cc3vr Wish I was there for the BF4 glory days. Havent played a Battlefield game since BF3 and BC2, and man is it sad to see the series fall this hard
@@alexandermagnus82 to say it fell hard was an overstatement
This game plays like one of those free to play early access games you'd find on steam with mixed reviews.
That's the best way to sum it up
100%
Oof lol
Definitely
And even those are better
They really killed Star Wars Battlefront II for this???? Seriously?
Yes, it is 2024, and yes I am still angry about this. EA, I pray for your downfall every day.
the single, shit assassination animation is 100% because they're probably going to add other animations as cosmetics
same for why specialists of both teams look the same, they'll probably sell skins for them and won't bother making two versions of the same skin for the two different teams
Wonder why they removed first person Takedowns to 3rd person that Battlefield had for 10 years in BF3,BF4,BF1,BF Hardline and BF5.
Funny how Infinite Warfare,COD WW2,MW,BOCW and Vanguard has 1st person takedowns in Campaign but MW2019,BOCW, Vanguard have 3rd person takedown in MP.That shows what Battlefield is going towards to be a MW clone.
Did anyone expect this after BF5?
Is this wasn't a company like EA, I'd be more distrustful of that idea, but...
"ITS JUST A BETA!!!"
*9th most disliked game on steam*
Oh god XD
Back to BF4? #SMH😶
@@Lou4O8 I was so hyped for this game .... sadly it's time to come back to bf4
@@Lou4O8 bf5 and bf1
@@roskcity Hardline? ☹️
This "Its just a beta" thing really shows how low the standards have sunk. I miss the times when games released in a playable state, and when bugs and glitches were something that you had to actively put in the effort and time to find. Now games basically break themselves apart for you.
Sometimes,the game break the second you open it.
Battlefield 1 is the peak of this franchise. Visually stunning, best looking BF game, weapons and vehicles feel so real, and are so much fun to use. F U DICE. WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU????
I'm honestly thinking about getting BF1 on my xbox series s. It's only 20 bucks, which is a great deal.
@@mathildadecker3433 don't know about xbox playerbase but Pc is still more active than 2042 and it's quite cheap or even free with the basic ea play (aswell as bf5 and the older games too)
@@mathildadecker3433. DO IT; You won't regret it.
Most of the devs that made battlefield what it was left.
Even guys that worked on frostbyte engine.
Basicly all veterans left and just rookies doing the job
*Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for games to just be playable when released*
Aye ma man is back!
The legend has returned
Fallout 3 is finally playable on steam I really hope that the legend makes a f03 video one day
Ironic
NCR forever!
This is actually really sad. After BF5, Battlefield needs a comeback to gain back it's notoriety. If 2042 fails, then I can see EA canning the IP. They've done it with other big ones.
When both the publishers and developers shamelessly insult the very fanbase playing their games as they did with the disastrous reveal of BFV, we should honestly expect nothing less than a poor product on their end.
It's way too big to can, maybe on the next game if it fails aswell but definitely not, all that matters is if it gets profits or not.
this is what happens if you make a cgi fake trailer instead of actual footage
I enjoyed bf5 and what it had to offer but it showed me how a bad first impression can sometimes screw over something in the long run. I just hope with the launch of 2042, they can hopefully polish it up more. But with some of the scummy practices that some companies do today, it might be a far fetched wish. Just my opinion
Hey i actually enjoyed bf5 and i have 1000+ hours in it
I want 2042 to be good so bad.. but I’ve been playing bf4 more lately and I hate to say it but it’s is much more fun. The state bf4 is currently in is near perfection for an FPS.
I just wish the projectiles weren't so slow
I would argue to my grave that BF4 was and still is one of the best FPS shooters ever. Countless weapons to use that even people like me with hundreds of hours haven’t used, well aged maps with destruction that not only looks cool, but actually shapes the game. Maps like Flood Zone for example, you can destroy the dam and it floods the bottom of the map with water, forcing you to use your secondary and be at a disadvantage. Or all the super fun gadgets like the suav, where you can fly a remote plane and with good aim, roadkill people from a safe spot, or all the types of fun explosives from grenade launchers, to rockets, or jeep stuff. It’s a shame that it will probably never be mentioned by EA again because China is in the game, and now that they are making a mobile game, they will do anything to appeal to them.
i dont agree with you, most servers (the few that are filled with people) consist of people who have been playing the game for years so if you start now you're gonna get seal-clubbed.
BF4 has been released in 2013, of course it's better and in top shape. Let's not forget BF4 was a disaster on release and had a whole special team focusing on fixing it.
@@godofredovasconcelos5690 just take off the suppressor
Post review:
Battlefield 2042 leaves a lot to be desired still in 2024, but ultimately the gunplay is in fact pretty flippin fun, kinda quick but different guns and you can change and adapt your role as you play in the match, it was an awesome idea for the weapon swap outs. Now, every player can fulfill a power fantasy high because the game does not restrict you to working with teammates. Ultimately many teams lose because the support roles aren't doing support role things like reviving. I would recommend 2042 for those who already own game pass, but for those without it, buy at your own risk, especially since they are already dropping support for the game, and for some awful reason doing another live service. The large lobbies are pretty fun, and here and there I'll pop into the smaller arena-eske modes and have some fun. The maps can sometimes feel awkward, some as if you can only use vehicles, others using vehicles is just a dumb idea. The Stadium rework for example makes the most conflicted zone inaccessible to vehicles, unless you're in a helicopter trying to spot people running on the arena portion of the stadium(The original map was better and had so much more flavor).
At launch it was an absolute 0/10, i'd argue -5/10.
In it's current day as a game it's a solid 8/10
As a Battlefield title it is a 5/10, the operators were clearly for a mode that got no love, every individual player can do so much damage that all it takes is one good player to turn the tide of the match. And ultimately movement and ttk is so fast that in a lobby of people who are good, vehicles can become virtually useless. It really does feel like it's trying to convert Cods audience frankly. Not knowing how to use the helicopters is also just a skill issue, but given this was the Beta I'm sure it was worse at that time.
I again only recommend 2042 if it's on sale for under 40$, or you have Game Pass, outside of that I cannot really recommend it, go and play BF1.
Y'all keep your heads up, make games and spread the joy of gaming
Cheers!
For the past 10 years, FPS "Betas" have been almost identical to the finished game. If the Beta sucks, the real game will suck even more.
I still can't get over Destiny 1's Alpha.
We thought it was just a slice, little did we know it was like a 1/4 or the game.
You’ll still get moron’s who defend it saying: “bUt iT’s A bEtA!”
If a beta sucks thete is no way that the launch is gonna duck even more like literally there is no way, it could be the same nut how the hell can it be worse?????
@Lord Fainza try halo infinite, I’m not much of a halo multiplayer guy but it was really fun to play. It’ll be F2P at launch also.
I remember the Medal of Honor Warfighter "Beta" which was acually really good, and players seem to like it, than the game came out and was garbadge. Idk why but it felt of compared to the "Beta", to this day i can't beleave what happend to it.
"Dude, its just a beta! They'll fix it after release!" - people who never learn
As a world of warcraft player anyone who says that I will personally smack upside the head.
It's that clown meme where they keep putting on more and more makeup
Battlefield has a history of having bad betas
@@prod.kikirich and bad releases
Oh people never learns. After cyberpunk 2077 fiasco and the magical 'day one patch' bullshit, you'd expect people to be more smart
Remember when Dice said they didn’t understand why people liked Bad Company 2 so much?
Bruh
For real this game literally has no destruction compared to BC2.
That game had no boundaries you can legit blow up the objective if you wanted and the movement also fit the pace of the game perfectly, also the game wasn't a buggy mess on launch.
And they also said that early versions of BF3 were tested with up to 128 players, and feedback was that it wasn’t very fun. 10 years later and it seems to still be true: as an XB1 player I had less issues with the map design or finding enemies than people on the 128 player version of the map had. Without the input lag, last-gen 2042 might end up being the best version of the game and I think that’s hilarious.
It was one of the few times they were right.
It’s like DICE really doesn’t like their fans
"We're aware of *rare instance* of a visual issue which can cause effects in the game to display as full screen flashes of white light."
No doubt.
"2042 is gonna kill cod"
Bro cod AND battlefield are killing themselves
Like, tf 💀
They also let halo win, if 343 doesnt ruin it though.
That was originally what it looked like, but damn did the first CG trailer of Battlefield 2042 make everyone believe it to be the CoD killer.
Halo Infinite is gonna be the true winner of FPSs this holiday.
@@randomhaloplayer918 lets hope
@@generalcjg idk. This is 343 we’re talking about. They’ll find some way to ruin it. Hopefully not, but it’s very likely based on their track record.
@@generalcjg I don't understand how people still get suckered into trailers as if it proves that the game is going to be amazing. My friend was always splooging about Cyberpunk 2077 for 3-4 years as if he was a kid in a candy shop. Look how that game turned out. He quietly played it, never said anything about it, and hasn't played it since release
People on Twitter were blasting Act Man's ass for complaining about Bf 2042 i hope now they see what he was talking about
This was only on console though
@@alfresh707 a Series X console though. New to late 2020 and early 2021.
If it was a 2013 xbox i would understand but its not
This shit cant be excused.
ART Ificial Studio I shouldn't have to own a high end PC to play a game advertised on console (old and new gen) for the game to not like tiger electronics.
@@justasimplemanworkinghiswa1569 game sucked ass on pc as well, virtually no fucking performance change between settings on a 1650 super and the game ran at like 20fps with all these shitty bugs included
The Kiwi Gopnik Battlefront 2 updates stop for this...
Played the beta for about 25+ hours and decided to go back to Bf4
Oh snap, a wild Midnight!
BF4 is like the crazy ex that’s always dtf when you’re in a slump
@@lt_johnmcclane bf3
Hey its midnight
Bf4 the best because of stupid funny stuff you can do.
I love how well this aged...
Fun fact: If you put the acog on the LMG, the recoil literally caused the scope to go inside your camera
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What a shame so many years wasted for nothing damn it is so sad
I saw some yt video of a guy literally breaking is damn spine going a full 360 cuz of the recoil
what recoil?
In this game, the floor felt like more of suggestion than an actual object. I played the first day on xbox one and 60% of the enemies i saw had their feet inside the ground. Unbelievable how it can be shown to the public in this state
I was hyped for the beta for over a week or so. I played like 15 minutes and went back to battlefield 4
Me and a friend were in a scout vechile we somehow clipped through the ground. When we got out of the vechille we were stuck under the ground in a swimming animation could swim through the entire bottoms of the map it was fucked
the beta build that was shown is a couple of months old. they’ve released new footage of the actual game for release and it it far more polished and refined
@@Oscar-yk6ww they didn't make any comment on last-gen systems performancd in their update piece. I hope it's fixed for the sake of those who don't have a next gen console but the cynic in me says it won't be
@@Sabmerk old gen users should be thankful it’s even coming out on their systems this is a new gen game so no wonder it’s going to perform poorly
Felt like I was watching Angry Joe in the form of The Act Man. Absolutely nailed this game's issues on the head
I agree, except I would go a step further and say he's far surpassed anything Angry Joe has done in years imo... and he does it with a lot less shouting!
I bought this game when it first came out,omg one of the worst decision I’ve ever made in my life
35:00 "You all have the same fore skins"
-Act Man
Ye
XD
Nice catch 😂
ye got em
We all got the same uhhhhh
This makes Halo's grievances and caveats look nearly invisible. I can't believe people are nitpicking so hard about social grenade hitmarkers and forge when THIS is the product of four major studios in the ABSENCE of a campaigns. Holy fucking shit.
Sometimes, it's a lot easier to make a single player campaign than a multiplayer experience. Makes you wish they still have a campaign... a good campaign.
I partially agree, but Halo Infinite being decent compared to two incredibly broken games doesn't mean that criticisms of it are "nitpicking". Forge/co-op not being in on launch is a legitimate complaint, Act Man himself constantly talks about how games should come out as finished products, including in this very video.
Bajel
Your only Hope now. It s Halo infinit
@@NarutoninjaXV Here's the thing, forge and coop are side features, coop was just tacked on in CE, and forge was only there in like 3, that's not to downplay these features and say they aren't good features but they aren't at all important, I'd rather my game run and function properly and the content come out whenever it's ready than have to play a shitty, broken coop or forge mode. The same people who plead, cry and beg for coop and forge at launch are going to be the same ones to shit themselves whining about it when it turns out that it released broken because the devs DIDN'T delay it to work on it like they wanted to/should've.
cyberpunk: Finally, a worthy opponent. our battle will be legendary.
lol
8 years versus one year tho
Vanguard: i am 4 parallel universes ahead of you
Fallout 76 enters the fight*
@@MichelleHell One year Battlefield 2042 had 3 years of development and 4 other big studios working on it.
Do you know that Vanguard had only 13-14 months of development.DICE even said "Were 5 months ahead of schedule" and gets delayed for a month.
And BF5 was released in November 2018.
And BF2042 is going to come out in November 2021.
Love how I can land a helicopter and as soon as it touches the ground it spontaneously combusts for no reason. Any aircraft is just constantly being locked onto as soon as u spawn in because there’s no proper range on the anti air weapons.
I had fun with the beta, but yeah it’s pretty broken. On the plus side, it did get me to reinstall BF4 and I’ve been having a great time with it
My Boi
I played it on PS4, l couldn't even achieve a avarage 30 FPS, this alone made me quit out of many issues. I know lm on old gen but this shouldn't be released on last gen, no the to mention l still feel like the graphics of BF3 looked better on my PS3
@@nunorocha3076 same. Even PS3 looked way better than this shit. Also, the Specialist system sucks major ass, and it should go back to the class system.
@@nunorocha3076 straight up, my thoughts exactly
@@nunorocha3076 It's like bf4 on last gen all over again?
I remember playing BF4 on my xbox 360 during the launch... was not good lol
Anyone remember when betas were called demos? When samples of a game were basically 2% of a FINISHED product? I remember.
Pepperidge Farms Remembers!
Memberberries.
I was there.
back in the day games didn't took this long to make. it's says that game nowadays take like 5-6 years to make, which is why we get so many broken games today cause everyone rushes as if it's the end of the world, mw2019 took like 4 years to make and it was amazing, every single game was going to be amazing if they didn't rush.
Betas and demos are 2 totally different things
I remember in bf1 me and my friends were so fucking immersed when playing operations that we were literally fucking screaming at our screens at the end of the game and barely winning, taking the final objective with a handful of respawns left. That shit was so cool and probably the most fun I've ever had in a game but 2042 was just dooky and i have refunded my preorder of it to save my money and sanity. What a train wreck
Never pre-order! How many times do games has to suck, fail, crash, or be 1/3 of the game that was promised? Wait for the game to come out, be reviewed, then make the choice. Don't let enybody fool you by promesing stuff, make them prove it first before you give them money.
@@TheXLink i will keep this in mind for all future titles thank you
Hypocrite in the making people
Guess what also released in a buggy as fuck state
BF1 and so did all the other bf games
Don’t hate the game hate the developers who do this
@@weepingdiscord6969 you are correct my friend i am certain bf2042 will be fixed and corrected down the line but i am not paying that money at the start of it life cycle when it is currently broken and shit
@@weepingdiscord6969 nah dude at release (at least for ps4) bf1 was some of the most fun I’ve had in a game, and the dlc was amazing and could have been released on their own
That game and watch segment is enough to make this video a 10/10
People saying "it's just a beta" and "it's an old build":
How the fuck are we supposed to give relevant, meaningful feedback if we're play testing an outdated build? The things gamers excuse nowadays infuriate me. Our standards are so low, but I feel it can go even further beyond.
Christ, gaming in the last five-ish years have conditioned us to put up with shit that shouldn't stand.
Don’t use the word “gamers” people that play multiplayer bs aren’t “gamers” unless you count people that play candy crush as “gamers”
Betas are always old builds bruv the halo infinite build we played was months old.
People saying “how can we give feedback if it”s an old build?” and “this game is SHIT”:
How the fuck can u really complain about an old build? Is like if u saw a movie, with no textures or low res textures, no sound, and still complained about it…when it’s the result of only being just touched by the post production team, same thing, this is an old build, things right now can be actually quite better, good performance, maybe not PERFECT because there is no PERFECT game but being decent and really good. The thing that toxic gamers use to throw shit at anything new they see and get their hands on.
@@sebastianlopezgarcia3937 Definition of a Beta: "A pre-release software that is given out to a large group of users to try under real conditions. Beta versions are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as a result of feedback." In other words, betas exist so the devs can get our feedback which includes criticism. The reason people get mad when they see games in this state isn't cause they want to shit on the game for the sake of it. We want to see the issues which are there fixed so the game can be made better. If a product is released to the public, beta or not, especially from a large studio like DICE, everyone has a right to have high expectations. Battlefield 1's Beta suffered from less than half the issues and it was fair to give criticism then, why not now?
@@ZFGImmersive yeah, i understand that about people wanting those issues been fixed, but then again, why the hate? Why throw shit? The guy that created this post basically is just throwing shit at the game, and in some way, even tho the act man said he is not throwing hate or shit to the game, the act man himself it’s actually doing it too; i’ve followed the series for a long time now, so i do want to see this game being successful, but it’s not fair to say that everything with BF 2042 is wrong in a BETA state and not a full and complete version with everything on it, if people start to say that of the final product when it launches then fine, i mean, it’s the launch of the game, IT IS IN FACT expected to be working at that point, but in a BETA to say that EVERYTHING WITH THE GAME IS WRONG? It’s like criticizing the appearance of when only the base ingredients of a cake are just thrown into a bowl to make the dough and the frosting is not even made, the baker will do everything in his power to make a delicious cake, same with this game, we just need to wait for the final product, criticize the final product, not the beta product, give feedback, don’t throw shit, there’s a fine line in those two terms, if people just say “it’s shit and everything is wrong with it” how the devs will take that? That ain’t feedback, being upset at something CANNOT influence the rating of something if you’re trying to be critical, with only saying “this and that and that and that has to be fixed” is enough, but saying textually “EVERYTHING IS WRONG” it’s like “WTF man??? We can’t change and REDO the whole game now” and even if people joke about saying this not feeling like a beta but an alpha, it doesn’t change anything, THIS IS STILL NOT THE FULL AND FINAL PRODUCT
Total Biscuit said it best nowadays: "When you preorder something you're paying the most amount of money for the worst version of the game".
May he rest in peace.
One of the few youtubers who always called out anti-consumer practices. We lost a truly good man when he passed.
Rest in Peace.
Even in death that man still holds weight in the gaming world. He may have been a prick at times, but said a lot of truth.
Total Biscuit was a hateful bigot
“Everyone has the same foreskins”
- The Act Man 2021. Bless you sir
Lol
battlefield 1 was the peak of their single player experience and bf4 was the peak of their multiplayer experience. the direction they are going now they will NEVER top those two games
This game made me appreciate Battlefield 1 and Battlefield 4 even more.
Yup , I saw more player back to Battlefield 1
Series lost its appeal to me after Bad Company 2. I really loved BF2 and Vietnam also. I'm old enough to remember the world of gaming before rushed games and micro transactions
@@Fantax92 same here. After 1942, Vietnam and 2 no other Battlefield game touched me the way those 3 did. Just not the same feeling. I was waiting for 2042 for (1942) portal, but it's a mess and plays nothing like 1942. Well... i need to look more into Squad/HLL/Post Scriptum or Enlisted for that kind of a simpler and more hardcore "Battlefield Experience". In my book "simpler" doesn't mean bad. As is cluttered (new titles) vs simpler and not cluttered older titles.
@@engage1942 squad is definitely the best option if you're wanting a more authentic and classic shooter type experience. I have like 500+ hrs in the game and never had a dull moment. Some glitches but nothing like 2042.
@@mr_linguine1770 yes. I must look into it.
If people keep buying unfinished, unpolished, buggy games, then that's exactly what you'll keep getting. Over and over and over again. I haven't bought a "new" EA game for years now.
@Drew Burymore plus why the hell would they use such an old build if it was? Kinda... Heh.... *Sus*
@Hugo Sr2123 your brain is only 2 months old if that is your conclusion
Buying EA games is like EA employees cumming on the our face.
@Hugo Sr2123 so in 2 months they managed to fix everything? Try telling that to the Cyberpunk buyers lol, that game is still a mess after a year
@Hugo Sr2123 And should a game be this fucked up 4 months from launch? Don't start calling people names. The moment you do, you admit you don't have a point
I lasted an hour in the beta before giving up because it was FUCKING BROKEN, and it's not just buggy, it's broken at a design level.
I played 20 hours with minimal problems
@@a0000a1234 I played most of the full beta period and rarely had any issues. Maybe only one or two times was something literally game breaking to the point I couldn't play the game. Any other issues I came across were very minor (and presumably easy enough to fix within a month) or worth keeping in the game because they add to the "battlefield moments."
@@Sharkz117 Lol, brainwashed fuck. "Only a couple times it was literally unplayable". This is why he used the abusive dad example in the video.
@@Sharkz117 i’ll see you guys here after launch
I played like an hour or two and I suffered most of the glitches Act Man mentioned while on foot but I never had any for vehicles
It is pretty interesting that a game studio like DICE never learns from their own misstakes.
Considering even 1942 in 2002 was a cool game but it was pretty clunky compared to its peers at the time, that’s all they have to fix. Make a solid game because the core battlefield gameplay is great fun
That's because they don't look at it as mistakes. Why change anything when there just gonna take 6 months to fix it make millions of dollars and players are gonna play/love the game anyway?
here comes the MONEEEEEEE, MONE MONE MONE MONE MONE MONE MONE
The same people defending this beta also defended fallout 76, Anthem, Avengers and battlefield 5's betas. We all know how this story goes by now
And would say shit about Halo Infinite's beta
BF5 is a great game tho?
@@lepemeselehto4040 Ye he said the beta for BFV, BFV itself is alright. I actually remember the BFV beta had cooler uniforms for their soldiers, in comparison to the release at least.
@@BigMarquise bf5 is wayyyy more enjoyable experience than anything 2042 gave me in the beta, 5 its actually a solid game now, best movement and gunplay in the series
@@nicolaslabra2225 BF5 was heading in a good direction with the Pacific update, granted there were alot of issues regarding choppy animations and weapon/vehicle balance, but it was what got me back into playing the game. Then DICE pulled the plug.
Battlefield 1 was such a phenomenal game. It's mind blowing how they produced this shite.
not mind blowing, this is what happens when hordes of seniour devs leave the company together, same thing happened to Bioware. Lets just hope it doesnt happen to Respawn.
Most of the work in BF2042 was done by juniour devs, new recruits and interns. Plus they're Swedish so they won't break their backs like the Japanese or Koreans to brute force the game into working condition within launch date.
@@swordofkhaine8464 Yeah, they are all woke liberal Millenials. That's why the game sucks.
@@swordofkhaine8464 senior devs leaving is an issue but not even the slightest bit as bad as the shareholders greed
@@Killroy007 EA overworking them and treating them like s**t is why they left.
However in short-term, seniour devs leaving the team has much worse consequences. Apart from ruining workflow, it ruins morale, chemistry, etc.
This is why Bioware, Dice, Blizzard are unlikely to recover.
@@swordofkhaine8464 which happened due to.. Shareholders greed
I think we are all burnt out from playing these unfinished games. It's been like this for many years now 😭
Literally couldn't play it on one of my controllers
Thank god halo infinite is a thing
@@No-OneSpecial000let’s wait for the game to come out before we start praise
Yep everybody should be use to it by now and just get ready for patches on every multiplayer game
I know right playing fallen order reminded me how games were what they should be
I just love how everyone, even Dice themselfs, are like "what? BF5? Nah that never happed"
i’ve played the 5 beta, enjoyed it, bought the game on console and pc, enjoyed it thoroughly, not to say i didn’t enjoy bf1 i just preferred the ww2 weaponry personally
@@chainex_1337 Yeah that's not what he's talking about anyways.
It's the way the game was marketed and the stupid decisions DICE made in terms of that game.
The pattern seems to stick here as well.
Tho at least this time there doesn't seem to be a cringy "EvERyoNeS BaTtLEfIEld"
@@chainex_1337 Tho yes agreed.
The gameplay is solid.
The launch was horrid tho.
@blue yellow Can you read?
Also comparing the bugs that BF1 had to BF4 is extremely daft.
Yes. BF1 did have bugs in beta.
Nothing even remotely close to what happened with 4 or 2042 now.
So it's not people forgetting.
It's people remembering.
DICE died with BF1 when the devs left.
This is just a husk of what's left.
@blue yellow And the only launch problems BF1 had were people up and arms cause there was a black dude on the cover, some hit detection issues and the classic EA servers.
The amount of times I’ve shot at my team mate thinking it was an enemy for a split second. The specialist system in the game can be summed up with the Spider-Man pointing meme.
We need factions. They’re catering to MW19 fanboys with this BS.They implemented Specialists so they can sell skins.
LOL this is on point
But dude! We gotta sell the skins!
How long do you think until the specialists look like something out of fortnite? Gotta get the 10 year old kids with access to their parents credit cards buying them after all.
@@invidatauro8922 I give it one and a half months before everyone is a rainbow unicorn. Just look at MW and Cold War.
We need specialist skins for different factions
Can someone answer me.
Why is it so hard for game developers to launch a game that actually WORKS during launch ? Seriously, WHY IS IT SO HARD AND WHY DOES THIS KEEP REPEATING ?
-deadlines
-lack of morale
-lack of passion due to your talents being sold as a product
-budget
-shitty work environment
-covid
Want me to keep going?
@@bigsmoke8816
Okay but how can they release the game in that state and think to themselves, “Yeah this game is good“ ? How are they so confident in releasing a game in such a horrible state?
@@MohdQil that's the neat thing: they arent
Its either this or getting shut down by EA for being "inefficient"
Me to Halo Infinite: "It's all up to you now, complete the mission!"
*yes sir*
Finish the fight
Wish that was the case but they aren't they only releasing 1/3 of the full game content?
@@sheldonjplanktonn since when does co-op makes 1/3rd of a Halo game. What happened to a good story and a good multiplayer.
@EmperorXtreme As one dude already told you " I wish you could join him"