Cause I know people would see it here and for contractual reasons I can’t take off the pin. I DO NOT BATTLEFIELD 1. ME SAYING PEOPLE HATED ON IT ON RELEASE IS NOT BAIT WHEN IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED SEVERAL OF YOUR FAVORITE BF TH-camRS AT THE TIME LIKE JACK AND LEVEL CAP ALSO HATED ON IT. REGULAR FANS LIKE MUTAHAR WHO IS PICTURED HATED ON IT. SAYING IT WHEN I SAID IT PEOPLE WHO DONT LIKE WWs AND ONLY WANT MODERN HATE IT JUST CAUSE. PEOOLE WHO DONT LIKE THE GAME MECHANICALLY HATE IT JUST CAUSE ME SAYING AS SUCH IS NOT MY OWN OPINION ON THE GAME ITS JUST ME SAYING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DONT LIKE CHANGE AND WILL HATE ANYTHING THATS NEW HOW IS THIS NOT GETTING THROUGH DO I JUST HAVE A SHIT WAY OF SAYING THINGS? I mean hell just look at the top comment and it’s replies where people are arguing bf1 there’s literally people there hating on bf1
While I loved battlefield 1 it I feel like customization could have been better even if it took some more liberties for WWI. Also I really hated the robotic voice of the announcer. Wish they used actual people and you could choose or hear the nation you were playing as voiceover. So I guess I didn’t hate it but I do have my issues. Lol
Because BF community is a bunch of salty fanboys dedicated to liking one singular game while disregarding everything about other games in the franchise. And Hardline, sadly didn't have much of the core playerbase compared to the rest of the series. Despite the fact that it is a very good game
I don't agree with you about Battlefield 1, but the rest of the video is on point. Battlefield 1 was a masterpiece and we will never get anything like it again from Dice.
@EnterTheFenix what are you talking about? Bf1 was amazing. Bf1 is without any doubt the best bf we've gotten campaign was eh but the multiplayer was the best since bf3 and I'd say it surpasses bf3.
@@EnterTheFenix OK so you have Battlefield 4 it’s great. It’s a fun game sad that they’re shutting down the servers then they made battlefield V it was kind of a shit show. Then they turned around and made battlefield 1. yeah I feel like they have a common thing of them making one good game. they go onto one or two games of just trash.
A lot of BF4 players hate it and never played it cause of the setting and how the game played nothing like WWI and was just a glorified WWII game with a skin.
@@robertharris6092 thats weird i feel like ive never encountered a single person who didnt at least think bf1 was an okay game, this is just me but bf1 is by far my favorite FPS of all time bar none with bf4 also in my top 5
@@zukothegoatI'll be the first you've encountered then. A decent chunk of us old hats never clicked with bf1 and I personally think it's a bad game with its aesthetics being its only decent aspect. Not trying to flame, I'm just speaking up for the old playerbase the new generation of battlefield has left behind.
Bf died with 5 for me, and if that wasnt enough, 2042 drilled holes and put screws that later managed to cut the screw heads and fuse them with the coffin somehow, droping bf5 was such a huge mistake, after the pacific update it actually felt good, it needed more hard work but well...
Imma agree, after the pacific update for BF5 the game actually felt like a battlefield game. They just messed up very bad at the start and EA saw the game wasn’t doing well so they pulled the plug. BF5 could’ve been a really good battlefield if they didn’t stop so early
the historical inaccuracies in BFV were disrespectful (notably Nordlys, woman in the cover, and for cosmetics purposes) in contrast to BF1 that did the Hollywood representation of WW1 the sake of gameplay.
Then shortly after the Pacific update classic Dice had to ruin what they had with the infamous TTK update making the game more noob-friendly for the kiddies getting the game during the Holidays, and it proceeded to make 90% of the guns unusable.
@@silversteel8998 the Pacific maps made me realize how overlook the movement were in BFV, sliding and the crouch run notably when player silhouette and switching cover to ground cover is vital during assaults.
I ain’t gonna lie a Battlefield Korean War would be pretty badass. Prop attack planes with jets? Sidewinder missiles? B52 carpet bombing run? WW2 tech with onset of modern weapons? Add the battlefield 1 carnage with tons of mountains for snipers we would have one hell of a game.
Personally, I'd love to have a Battlefield Cold War trilogy. First Cold War game would be the Korean war as base game followed by DLC expansions of the French indo-china war, the first Arab Israeli war, Suez Crisis and the first Indo-Pakistani war. Second Cold War game would be the Vietnam war as base game followed by DLC expansions of the second Arab Israeli war, second Indo-Pakistani war and maybe some of the colonial wars in Africa. Third Cold War game would culminate into an alt history World War 3 between the US / NATO and the Soviet Union / Warsaw Pact at the very end of the 1980s. DLC expansions would be expanding the war in Europe into other regions such as Scandinavia, Eastern Mediterranean, etc. And maybe even add the Iran-Iraq war. That's my wishlist for the Battlefield franchise.
@@bingolos9063 That's because it didn't have more open mission design in general. I am not saying it was very bad or something. It was weaker. BC1 campaign had better story and better missions. Simple as
Battlefield 3 was peak battlefield. It had everything, and vehicles actually took skill to use, the gunplay and mechanics were perfect, it was the perfect blend between arcade and somewhat realistic. To me 3 is what set the standard as to what a battlefield game is supposed to be. Every game after it just felt more and more arcade, and with 2042 it just looks like a generic FPS shooter trying to be what is currently trending. Battlefield lost its soul, man. It will never go back to what it once was no matter how hard they try to recapture its magic, because they’re not even trying to. They’re getting further and further away because they’re going after what sells, not what the core fans of the franchise have been asking for
A would just live a bf3 remastered, upgrade graphics,skins, destruction a bit , loved it's kill cam , maybe a new map or two or a few new bases Metro rocked!! For a non vehicle map, and devand peak etc , it had it all !! Add in the flame thrower or sentry kit etc from bf1
I played bf 2 and 3 and 1 back in the day. Went away from gaming. Came back as 2042 was released. Yeah i bought it, not realising there was a warnings in every forum and reddit page if i had just looked. Played it for a week. Never played again and i just cant. Bf is dead to me now and i cant ever buy another (but i still play 5).
when bf1 came out, it marked a bold departure from the formula that had made Battlefield 3 and 4 such massive successes. they completely changed the setting and era, that fundamentally impacted the gameplay. they weren't like cod, their no.1 competitor at the time, regurgitating the same content year after year they did something different and it absolutely worked. and a minority, of which you are a part of, were not pleased with it because they didn't follow the call of duty format and rehash bf3 and bf4. But they did end up making an objectively better game. a masterclass of a first-person shooter the immersion was immaculate and the grit depicted was the opposite. so I don't get this take at all wherever i hear it, bf3 and 4 were great games but their fanboys never looked past their nostalgia of it to ever enjoy bf1 or praise it, god forbid.
Yeah no, Battlefield 1 is the most overrated game in the franchise and started every bad habit Battlefield has had since. There's nothing immersive about spawning tanks from a menu, it was bad enough that Battlefield 4 removed air fields for planes. Not to mention the game played like a WW2 shooter pretending to be WW1. The actual shooting was awful and made the guns feel inconsistent, especially with crap like the sweet spot mechanic, and the general gameplay feel was weirdly floaty just like V and 2042 are. The changes to Conquest tickets completely messed with the flow of a match and discouraged people from PTFO. Not to mention the actual good things that BF1 did like Operations were just completely dropped in the following games too.
Did you completely ignore the awful vehicle system that spawned from that game along with the streamlining and redundancy of certain classes? When was the last time you legitimately used a repair tool in BF1? When was the last time you didn't skip a revive or ignored teammates because they'd skip a revive? What was so wrong with BF4's revive system that they neutered it with BF1 by making the "rev up" for the syringe useless? Also, do you actually think that planes feel good to use? The progression? The amount of time it takes for you to unlock battle-packs again? BF1's controller sensitivity at 100% being slower than BF4's 80%? There's just a lot of bullshit with this game like balance, mechanics being redundant, and streamlining of the wrong things. Also, for whatever reason, 1 assault guy seems to be useless against an MKV now compared to launch. Not to mention that the problem with BF4's open maps became worse with how sniping was revamped in BF1 by making it stupid easy and giving you a random modifier that seems to be divisive. Yeah, god forbid they criticize both BF4 and 1 for the amount of BS we dealt with during both games' lifecycles like bad balance, bad launches, bad progression, or just inferior systems to predecessors. I like BF4 over 1, but that doesn't mean I won't call out BS like spawn beacons, glitch spots that were never patched out on places like Locker or Outbreak, or the throwaway DLC modes. As far as destruction goes, BF1's map problems stem from unrestricted destruction where major objectives desperately needed natural/indestructible cover to avoid defense standing out in the open like the Italian campaign maps.
@@Guranga93 ya, you’re wrong, the game stepped forward in every conceivable way, everything about that game was done right, it worked right out of the gate on day 1, the atmosphere and audio is a masterclass for the whole industry, the guns were much more realistic, having their own character for each gun that was unavoidable and unmodifiable which promoted skill to use them, it penalized people that mismanaged weapon fire by loosening bullet groupings for panic fire, the vehicles were well balanced, the maps were good (mostly, suez is terrible). The gimmick of behemoths actually did its job and gave the game a reason to rally around a losing match and often makes the gameplay closer than it otherwise would have been but are still defeatable. The classes were well balanced and made sense as well and the teamwork was the best in the series and very much determined the outcome of a match. The smoke and particle effects for fog and dust storms were quite amazing and just put the atmosphere over the top and actually changed gameplay in meaningful ways. I think you didn’t like how the guns fired and gave up before learning the nuances of the game.
its like after dice dropped the mastepiece that was BF1 they said "welp im never doin that again" it almost feels like theyre TRYING to kill the franchise
"Oh how does Call of Duty keep selling so well and our Battlefield falls behind??" Bruh because they've been making the same game for a decade and, guess what, that's exactly what the fans want.
Yawn 🥱 i rather play the same game that knows what it is rather than play a game that doesn't lol at least in cod we actually get you know good content 😂 when was the last time you bf fan boys had good content? Isn't this 3 games in a row of having terrible content??? Yet you stupid losers Continue to give EA money. Activision doesn't make us pay 70$ for a game with 7 seasons just to be left with 4 game modes and the only different game mode is tdm with the rest being copies of already popular game modes. second y'all most popular games are literally copy and paste bf4 and bf3 but i understand stupid fan boys like you never want to admit that. Lmfoaooo and if I'm not mistaken i see Alot of ppl say all EA and dice have to do is copy bf3 and bf4 😂 you know the SAME game.
I don't think I've ever seen a cod fan be all that happy about the state of the franchise either, but that might be more of an FPS playerbase thing than anything either specific game has unique to it. Cod does have the advantage that a much faster release time than Battlefield games means players will probably have at least one relatively recent one they like at a given time.
I went back into bf3 a couple years back. I realized I hated that map too much when I played the game before bf4 released. It was my favorite map when I revisited the game
I really miss stuff like that. Metro was one of my most favorite bf3 maps. I remember playing the bf3 beta way back when on the 360 and had a blast. I know people say bf1 is the best battlefield, but i don't those people played bf3 back then. That was great fun and I doubt DICE will ever go back to that style of BF again.
I’m pretty sure most if not all of the battlefield community just wants a mash up of bf3 and bf4 weapons and vehicles with bf1 graphics and chaotic atmosphere
bf1 felt intuitive and had amazing graphics but i always found the restrictions put on guns and damage falloff to ruin the fun a lot. But as a casual game bf1 rules. Its just that bf3 was so much more than a casual game.
@@Jack_93 Nothing has surpassed Bf1942. Guadalcanal with planes, ships, tanks, submarines, artillery. And since you only could spawn on bases you actually had fronts! I think that front feel is what I miss the most. Not squads, but the whole team. *Could spawn on ships too, which made for naval assaults.
21:25 the reason why Delta Force is so "similar" to BF2042 is because it was made by chinese... so yeah its basically the chinese copy of BF2042, under the name of an old military sim franchiese. I played Delta Force Black Hawk Down Team Sabre and it was a totally different idea of a shooter game, more focused on realism
The Chinese, Koreans and Japanese are the only ones left giving us good games, the west still trying to figure out what a woman is. I am playing Delta Force the moment it drops, Dice can get wrecked.
Delta Force ARE the one who created the "battlefield type game". The only reason why they made simulation it's because they had a contract with the army. It's just a chinese studio who did take the license and make a good game.
@@BeastMaster11-me1nb might as well falsify what ever data they need then. Who's gonna complain? The ccp? And at this point most gamers won't care, the West have stopped making good games because they went full retard. If the Chinese do then yeah it all sucks but it is what it is.
My favorite game is BF4, but I acknowledge BF1 is still an excellent game. I’ve talked about the decline of Battlefield multiple times in the in-game chat. There’s basically a consensus or at least a large majority that the franchise was great up to BF1 and its DLCs. The only people I’ve heard saying BF1 sucks were players who always stay inside vehicles.
Please give us a battlefield set in the cold war, it would be so awesome if you had multiple Warsaw Pact and NATO factions with unique weapons and vehicles from that era
A Battlefield game set in an alternative history Cold War world where the Cold War turned hot would be an extremely interesting game to play. Basically, the USSR vs the United States would be the main square off, with their respective allies being the sub factions in more specific maps. The Cold War also spanned a pretty big time period, so you could even play around and have weaponry/tech from the Korean War on one map, weapons and tech from the Vietnam War in the other, etc
@@avery.a5948 just cause a setting sounds generic at a literal sentence description doesn't mean it'll make a bad game, tell me you know nothing about game design without telling me you know nothing about game design, you could say "modern shooter with big maps" and ofc it sounds generic
@@avery.a5948 my brother in christ every games description could be labeled as generic. "Mario platformer" "Future themes fps" "Open world fantasy" No shit they sound generic but Mario Odyssey, Crysis, and Elden Ring are all games that stand out completely from their "generic" ideas.
im proud of when a fanbase is critical of its games and not blindly loyal because if you keep supporting the game regardless of its decline, it gets worse not better and layoffs always follow
I sort of feel like ea is trying to push out the older long time fans to usher in younger fans that are mindless consumers like cod has. That way they can just sell goofy skins and make bank every year because idiots will pay for it
If you look at the original reason why DICE decided to make Mirror's Edge, it was because they wanted to branch out from Battlefield and to make something different. That is what DICE needs right now. Take a break from Battlefield, make something completely revolutionary and different like Mirror's Edge, and come back to Battlefield when they actually have an idea. But that will never happen because Battlefield is the cash cow.
@@robsmith6377was about to comment this. BF3 had such a good feel, especially with so many maps built around Rush. It really gave each map its own story
When i heard about that open world campaign, i immediatly thought of the Golf Course campaign map for Bad Company. My favorite campaign map in the franchise. You spawn on one side of a huge golf course, the president mansion is 3km away on the other side. You can take a jeep and rush to the mansion, or attack outposts and towns to find better weapons and gadget. You could even steal tanks of you wanted to. There was even a secret island with powerful loot. It was amazing. As they love their "player choices", this is how its done.
it feels like you're underselling the aesthetic appeal of battlefield as well i can only speak personally but all of my friends that play battlefield say that their favourite is bf1 because of the aesthetics of the game. you're right in that the general setting of the game doesn't matter, but that only counts if they can nail the vibes of whatever era the game is set in (hence why bfv was hated a lot around launch despite improving upon bf1's gameplay in a lot of ways)
Honestly, I picked up what EA was putting down and immediately threw it away. I skipped out after 4 and have saved myself a lot of grief that the Battlefield community seems to be constantly dealing with. Sure, nothing's quite like Battlefield but I think that's okay because Battlefield isn't really like Battlefield anymore either.
Battlebit is great. Gunplay is better, recoil is better, destruction is better, class system is better, squad system is better. It's what 2042 should have been, except with a roblox skin that immediately turns most people off.
Battlefield 1 is my favorite battlefield there I said it. But just cause I and many others love the game doesn’t mean there’s also isn’t a part of the community that also didn’t like it and straight up hated the game at launch ( Just look at your favorite battlefield TH-camrs back in the day in how they talked about the game and also those who refuse to play anything that isn’t modern)
@@CormacHollandI don't understand, why? The setting simply does not interest me. Same way that I love Elder Scrolls and hate Fallout. Games are mechanically very similar but I just think the Fallout setting is sad and gross.
You're right but I feel that part of the community is a small minority that just makes A LOT of noise, 95% of us were at least fine with the game and most liked it.
As a historian BF1 was great and you can see the passion behind the project, everything had context and historical background that was explained IN GAME , just hope they get Back into the same mindset for the next game 🖤
Battlefield is an atmospheric game first and foremost. It's not about competition. It's about immersing yourself in a hellish war atmosphere and reveling in the fact that all the wild shit going on, the soldiers screaming, the buildings falling, the mortars whistling overhead, all these cinematic moments you expect from a scripted campaign are all the result of 64 players just playing the game. The phrase "COD is for boys, Battlefield is for men" didn't just refer to the fact that Battlefield had advanced mechanics like destruction while COD didn't, it referred to the fact that COD used it's settings to just simply give context for why you had an M4 rather than a Thompson, while Battlefield fully immersed you in it's setting with intense, visceral audio and visuals that made the player respect the idea of warfare. When you're playing Battlefield 1 and see a mortar blow your buddy to smithereens while their character screams in agony, or in BF3 you hear the soldier next to you scream "I FUCKING CAN'T TAKE THIS SHIT ANYMORE" because of an audio trigger caused by the wall next to you getting blown out by a T90, you chuckle darkly and internally go "damn, I'm glad I'm not there." That's Battlefield. It's not necessarily *mechanically* authentic, it sure as fuck used to be *atmospherically* authentic. And until DICE realizes this, Battlefield will never return to it's former glory. If you're one of these people unironically calling Delta Force a spiritual successor to BF3/4, or someone who hosts those dumb US vs US servers in BF4, you're entirely missing the point.
25:58 Firestorm was fun enough as a base mode that it had the bones to succeed, but not as something attached to BFV. The gunplay was fine but had major issues that stemmed from being BFV, the vehicles would've been better had they not been extremely overpowered thanks to it being part of BFV, it having a $40 barrier of entry being a game that was struggling to break 20k players did not help, and lastly not updating it beyond adding 2 guns the season after it came out does not help it. It was a doomed mode that was really fun.
1:39 Nah I'm not that.... ...I'm just a jaded cynical gamer who hates anything that isn't theses three games: 1942, 2, 2142. Also nice Pippa reference.
When writing the script I didn’t include it because it’s like the no brainer things that automatically comes to mind when I say Battlefield like it comes with the title. It’s like if I were to explain the importance of shooting a gun in an FPS like it just comes with the territory. But yeah I should have still included it
I'm at a point of apathy with shooters, but especially large shooters. It just hurts to see all of the AAA space lose its identity becauae Warzone and Apex popped off, so now we have to chase gen Z's parents' credit cards for everything at all times. Everything has to be the next thing, no one can be content with second place because the shareholders won't have it. Unfortunately it just doesn't seem like indie studios are quite up to making Battlefield-scale titles just yet. It'll just have to live on as a memory of a moment in gaming I'm glad I got to be a part of
@@David-eh9leWhat? Some people maybe hated it but overall it was received really well and brought so many new players to battlefield, you just making stuff up no one started liking bf1 just because of bfv, it was well liked before that by most of the community.
BF1 was pure elation. Everything about the game - the settings, audio and visuals, weapons, vehicle (and horse) gameplay were fantastic. The maps offered something for every type of of gameplay. When a flank worked out there was nothing like it.
Ending support for battlefront 2 was criminal. I want them to take inspiration from Battlfront 2 and Battlefield 1, but that's asking too much apparently.
No mention of Squad? I wasn't playing it at the time but I heard some veterans say they had a huge influx (relative to the existing player base at least) after people soured on 2042.
Squad and other games as such are in a league of their own. Cause literally they are in a leave of their own. milsim games is one of the paths that playing battlefield can lead you into for sure but it’s not the next step forward for the franchise. Sure there’s a blend of that in it but that’s the thing it’s only a blend of such mechanics. If done too much the community can reject it like they did with the mechanics seen in BfV. ( I will take squad over Arma 3 any day)
BF1 is now the most adored game in the franchise by the fans, some months ago the reddit basically decided BF3 and BF1 were the top tier. Also is now one of the most played BF games, lots of people are discovering it now, and its honestly perfect to me, even the campaing from that game is good
@@TheJohn_Highway i've played EVERY single battlefield title. BF1/bf4 are the only ones i keep returning to. your statement is blatently wrong and your perception of the community is ignorant. the servers for bf1 are still full and a ton of fun to play on for me and my friends.
You know a game is good when it's a AAA title like Battlefield 1 and still has more players than the current Battlefield entry, 8 years after release. These AAA games usually die pretty quick once the next comes out, but not Battlefield 1 (or V, really).
There’s a lot of false information in the section where The Finals is brought up (15:04), because the community isn’t trying to, and never wanted to, make the game into a battlefield killer. In fact,there was a major controversy within the community when the new “search and destroy”-like mode named Terminal Attack replaced the normal Cashout ranked mode because the community believed it simply didn’t feel like “The Finals” anymore. This is a sentiment the community still heavily subscribes too and labeling them as trying to take the developer’s vision and hijack it to make it more like battlefield is not only misinformation but flat out untrue.
That’s my bad in the wording of it since the most I ever see when it comes to people are TH-camrs who aren’t The finals TH-camr but just feature the game on their channel every now and then. Channels like Jackfrags and others like that who when they start playing somewhere in their videos they mention “How doesn’t this game have a conquest mode yet like we’re all waiting for it” and you go to the comment sections of these videos with people all sharing the same sentiment so portraying that info as the finals community as a whole as my fault but that wasn’t the intention just shit wording. Also I’m still waiting for them to take out terminal attack from the comp playlist I’m not playing the game again till then
Bf1 is a masterpiece used as an example for artistic design, music and gameplay. Of course you can dislike it but its a reality that is hard to match. I don't know why they cant try something similar again.
Bf1 might be in a rough state right now, but no one ever said that it is an objectively bad game. Unless your a historian who dislikes the historical inaccuracy or admittedly forced diversity present, it’s a phenomenal game.
I never liked BF1 because when it was announced I really thought they would change everything to fit being in WWI, but in the end it played just like every other modern era Battlefield
@@pedgewehr gameplay would be too slow for the battlefield series if they wanted to make it an authentic ww1 game. There are some games that do trench warfare and bolt action -only (or mostly) but this would immediately kill arcadeness of BF
@@pingwin_nielot They didn't make it authentic. It is a copy paste bf game like always. It is a reskin. I would rather have they try a slower battlefield than a character based battlefield .....
@@pedgewehr Not really a copypaste, cause it brings a lot of new mechanics, just the core that is more or less the same as in previous games - because its battlefield and not some other franchise lol. As for the realism, thats what i said lol. Authentic WW1 game would be insanely boring, realistic trench warfare isn't something that fits into model of fast paced arcade fps shooter
@@pedgewehr if you want something else then try something else and not demand that Battlefield is modified because you dont like it anymore. Try verdun for example, didnt play it but if i remember correctly it fits much better to what you're describing
Great now I’m self conscious. But in my defense I record most of my audio at like 2 am so I’m already whispering into my mic witch doesn’t help the situation at all 😭
I know exactly what I want from battlefield, a lot of unique guns in every category, lots of different vehicles that feel balanced, classes, cool maps and destruction It really shouldn't be hard for Dice at all.
Dear, TK1138 Thank you for sharing with us such a *GREAT* presentation covering what the franchise's situation is in it's current totality. I felt as though more often than not that the images, and words being expressed in this video were just ripped right out of my own consciousness, and mouth; especially when contenplating the thought of all the "Battlefield Killers" we've seen come, and go over the years. It's nice to finally hear a member of the community give the same idea of you, but it's another to unite all the voices into one. You have my trust TK, so I sincerely wish to see more of your perspectives as we progress into the next title. May your light shine into this desperate fanbase - we almost can't fucking win without you. P.S.: I'd be damned if I ever catch myself playing War Thunder, and actually take it seriously.
I don't even care I like gun I shoot gun I am happy I don't like battlefield 2049 The SCAR meta is aids The maps are rough even if the idea is interesting Wayy too fucking chokey for a battlefield map
I gotta say that BF1 was the best one imo coming from bfbc, bc2, bf3, bf 4 and hard-line back in the day however I didn't care for bloom and the sweet spot mechanic for snipers
whatever the new battlefield game would be i hope they go all in on military sci fi, add more unique guns the function in extremely different ways from one another, interesting vehicles that shake up the match, go over each and every mechanic and see if they could use some changing or should be left alone.
10:32 yeah bro people really “Hated” bf1. You know one of the most critically acclaimed battlefield games? Yeah people “hated” that. (Buddy are you high or something)
Yes people did. die hard bf3 and 4 fans refuse to take of their nostolgia goggles and actually give battlefield 1 its props. I know it’s 8 years old but there was a small vocal minority who did hate on the game and you can still go find them if you look at Reddit
Many People hated bf1 when it first came out. But it was outweighed by others who enjoy it. To many it’s still a good game but it definitely have its flaws, BIG flaws at that
@@mixyagi1331 what the hell are you talking about? Absolutely everyone adored bf1 from the reveal trailer when everyone was upset with infinite warfare. Are you people in some kind of delusion or something?! EVERYONE THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO KILL COD (which was basically impossible) I know what happened because I was there when the trailer dropped
@@Ahmadabdal_ I’m talking about when the game FIRST dropped, ofc it was loved when the trailer was out. But many were disappointed with how DICE did BF1. I was there when it first came out and when the sub Reddit was a war hell. Personally I have my own opinions on it but it’s still good
@@mixyagi1331 who the hell are these "many" who were dissapointed?! you people are clearly delusional!. It was one of the most widely accepted as one of the absolute best battlefield game AT LAUNCH! maybe it was your group of friends that didn't like it but the online discourse was that it was absolutely amazing from maps to the weather effects to levolution to even the setting. You people are genuinely making up memories
Battlefield 1, while immersive and a game that I thoroughly enjoyed, did have its balance issues. Compared to BF4, especially in the vehicles department: Tanks were more powerful and could camp from afar. (Grand ops arty truck comes to mind.) Planes only really had to worry about limited stationary AA, or fellow aircraft, as stingers or igla launchers did not exist yet (in addition, you had the devs buffing the Ilya Muromets strategic package which now allowed the pilot to kill half if not the entire enemy team while playing grand ops breakthrough) Guns had random bullet deviation and were inaccurate (which was reduced and made better later on in the games life cycle) and were balanced like WW1 weapons. LMGs felt heavy and smgs felt light, which while cool does not however translate to an overall balanced shooter, as the assault class reigned supreme as the go-to class for kills throughout its life cycle. Overall, Battlefield 1 was an immersive game which I have fond memories of, however it could have been balanced better.
Great analysis - I think the Battlefield name remains as a shell, and everything around it and within it has irreversibly changed since BF1. So long and thank you for the good times!
No one hated BFV for lack of innovation. People hated it because it was not a realistic and accurate game by historical standards. Still beats running around as Nicky Minaj in MWII though.
Without David Goldfarb there won't be a good Battlefield game, it's as simple as that. He was to the Battlefield franchise what Hideo Kojima was for Metal Gear. Bad Company, Bad Company 2, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield 1. HE was the lead game designer of them all. The only decent thing modern DICE could ever hope to make would be a remaster of the older games. But a sequel? No shot, they simply lack the knowhow and the talent.
Dont get me wrong BF3/4 where good but BF1 is the most complete.. intense.. realistic..brutal game they EVER released! Nothing will ever top that period!
16:00 One thing we always Loved about Battlefield... is the graphics. So Batlebit can only do so much. In reality we, the players want the WHOLE package. Not only parts of what makes it good...
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@@thecosmonaut4221 youre getting consumed by the snail itself
Cause I know people would see it here and for contractual reasons I can’t take off the pin.
I DO NOT BATTLEFIELD 1. ME SAYING PEOPLE HATED ON IT ON RELEASE IS NOT BAIT WHEN IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED SEVERAL OF YOUR FAVORITE BF TH-camRS AT THE TIME LIKE JACK AND LEVEL CAP ALSO HATED ON IT. REGULAR FANS LIKE MUTAHAR WHO IS PICTURED HATED ON IT. SAYING IT WHEN I SAID IT PEOPLE WHO DONT LIKE WWs AND ONLY WANT MODERN HATE IT JUST CAUSE. PEOOLE WHO DONT LIKE THE GAME MECHANICALLY HATE IT JUST CAUSE
ME SAYING AS SUCH IS NOT MY OWN OPINION ON THE GAME ITS JUST ME SAYING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DONT LIKE CHANGE AND WILL HATE ANYTHING THATS NEW HOW IS THIS NOT GETTING THROUGH DO I JUST HAVE A SHIT WAY OF SAYING THINGS? I mean hell just look at the top comment and it’s replies where people are arguing bf1 there’s literally people there hating on bf1
Who hated Battlefield 1? That was a weird take. Most people think Battlefield 1 is the best in the series for tone and gameplay.
I thought it was great too.
That part was strange since I love bf1
While I loved battlefield 1 it I feel like customization could have been better even if it took some more liberties for WWI. Also I really hated the robotic voice of the announcer. Wish they used actual people and you could choose or hear the nation you were playing as voiceover. So I guess I didn’t hate it but I do have my issues. Lol
@@101magjImagine your soldier screaming their lungs out in excitement announcing that you're taking Alpha. Now that's immersion.
Apparently SomeOrdinaryGamers
its funny how Hardline is never even mentioned in Battlefield discussion
Because BF community is a bunch of salty fanboys dedicated to liking one singular game while disregarding everything about other games in the franchise. And Hardline, sadly didn't have much of the core playerbase compared to the rest of the series. Despite the fact that it is a very good game
Because it's not a battlefield game and sam is a dumbass
honestly i liked hardline more than 4
@@AmyCherryLMAO based
as a diehard bfbc2/3/4 fan I liked bf hardline too, it's unique
We'll never get anything like battlefield 1 again
Battlefield 1 is the epitome of battlefield
Good, the game was boring as shit compared to 3 and 4 especially 3
@@Guranga93 😂 yea right.
@@jacobgalfi1420 Yes, It blows big time. 😂
@Guranga93 Bro what 💀
I don't agree with you about Battlefield 1, but the rest of the video is on point. Battlefield 1 was a masterpiece and we will never get anything like it again from Dice.
Wasnt even close. It was a great setting, but it was just more of the same old tired shit gameplay that they've been pumping since BF4
@EnterTheFenix what are you talking about? Bf1 was amazing. Bf1 is without any doubt the best bf we've gotten campaign was eh but the multiplayer was the best since bf3 and I'd say it surpasses bf3.
The part about battlefield 1 was me talking about how it was perceived to a lot of people on release it’s not my own opinion on the game
@@EnterTheFenix OK so you have Battlefield 4 it’s great. It’s a fun game sad that they’re shutting down the servers then they made battlefield V it was kind of a shit show. Then they turned around and made battlefield 1. yeah I feel like they have a common thing of them making one good game. they go onto one or two games of just trash.
@@David_bruh59 battlefield V came out after Battlefield 1 but you're still right
i don’t think anyone hated battlefield 1 bro💀
A lot of BF4 players hate it and never played it cause of the setting and how the game played nothing like WWI and was just a glorified WWII game with a skin.
@@robertharris6092 thats weird i feel like ive never encountered a single person who didnt at least think bf1 was an okay game, this is just me but bf1 is by far my favorite FPS of all time bar none with bf4 also in my top 5
@@robertharris6092 you want to have fun in a ww1 realistic shooter youre welcome to play games like isonzo or verdun
@@zukothegoat exactly, the atmosphere for that game is unmatched, each battle feels so cinematic
@@zukothegoatI'll be the first you've encountered then. A decent chunk of us old hats never clicked with bf1 and I personally think it's a bad game with its aesthetics being its only decent aspect.
Not trying to flame, I'm just speaking up for the old playerbase the new generation of battlefield has left behind.
Bf died with 5 for me, and if that wasnt enough, 2042 drilled holes and put screws that later managed to cut the screw heads and fuse them with the coffin somehow, droping bf5 was such a huge mistake, after the pacific update it actually felt good, it needed more hard work but well...
Imma agree, after the pacific update for BF5 the game actually felt like a battlefield game. They just messed up very bad at the start and EA saw the game wasn’t doing well so they pulled the plug. BF5 could’ve been a really good battlefield if they didn’t stop so early
the historical inaccuracies in BFV were disrespectful (notably Nordlys, woman in the cover, and for cosmetics purposes) in contrast to BF1 that did the Hollywood representation of WW1 the sake of gameplay.
Then shortly after the Pacific update classic Dice had to ruin what they had with the infamous TTK update making the game more noob-friendly for the kiddies getting the game during the Holidays, and it proceeded to make 90% of the guns unusable.
I feel bf5 was dropped to early
@@silversteel8998 the Pacific maps made me realize how overlook the movement were in BFV, sliding and the crouch run notably when player silhouette and switching cover to ground cover is vital during assaults.
I ain’t gonna lie a Battlefield Korean War would be pretty badass. Prop attack planes with jets? Sidewinder missiles? B52 carpet bombing run? WW2 tech with onset of modern weapons? Add the battlefield 1 carnage with tons of mountains for snipers we would have one hell of a game.
There are many conflicts of the Cold War hidden from WW1 and 2
true... i d support that 100%
B52?
@@danieldennis7508 I meant B29 😅 still good tho
Personally, I'd love to have a Battlefield Cold War trilogy.
First Cold War game would be the Korean war as base game followed by DLC expansions of the French indo-china war, the first Arab Israeli war, Suez Crisis and the first Indo-Pakistani war.
Second Cold War game would be the Vietnam war as base game followed by DLC expansions of the second Arab Israeli war, second Indo-Pakistani war and maybe some of the colonial wars in Africa.
Third Cold War game would culminate into an alt history World War 3 between the US / NATO and the Soviet Union / Warsaw Pact at the very end of the 1980s. DLC expansions would be expanding the war in Europe into other regions such as Scandinavia, Eastern Mediterranean, etc. And maybe even add the Iran-Iraq war.
That's my wishlist for the Battlefield franchise.
ppl forget that bad company 2 had semi open world maps for campaign.
Youre thinking of bad company 1
@@robertharris6092 both have that. But in BC2 they're only available in some levels
@@bingolos9063 And that's why BC2's campaign is far more weaker
@@thebigsam i like both. Shame bfbc2 campaign felt shorter
@@bingolos9063 That's because it didn't have more open mission design in general. I am not saying it was very bad or something. It was weaker. BC1 campaign had better story and better missions. Simple as
Battlefield 3 was peak battlefield. It had everything, and vehicles actually took skill to use, the gunplay and mechanics were perfect, it was the perfect blend between arcade and somewhat realistic. To me 3 is what set the standard as to what a battlefield game is supposed to be. Every game after it just felt more and more arcade, and with 2042 it just looks like a generic FPS shooter trying to be what is currently trending. Battlefield lost its soul, man. It will never go back to what it once was no matter how hard they try to recapture its magic, because they’re not even trying to. They’re getting further and further away because they’re going after what sells, not what the core fans of the franchise have been asking for
It's even a fucking hero shooter
A would just live a bf3 remastered, upgrade graphics,skins, destruction a bit , loved it's kill cam , maybe a new map or two or a few new bases
Metro rocked!! For a non vehicle map, and devand peak etc , it had it all !! Add in the flame thrower or sentry kit etc from bf1
I want bf3 remaster but with communists, totalitarians AND aliens all fighting against us at the same time, to make it more realistic
Remember. No pre-orders
Shit, I played 2042’s beta and decided nah. First Battlefield I never bought.
Oh I learned my lesson don't worry
I played bf 2 and 3 and 1 back in the day. Went away from gaming. Came back as 2042 was released. Yeah i bought it, not realising there was a warnings in every forum and reddit page if i had just looked. Played it for a week. Never played again and i just cant. Bf is dead to me now and i cant ever buy another (but i still play 5).
I'd pre order because I even loved 2042 😂 jokes on u
@@noname-sd5dt you played bf3 and didn't like 2042 ? Sounds fishy it even has bf3 map and she you play it it feels exactly same Caspian border 😂
when bf1 came out, it marked a bold departure from the formula that had made Battlefield 3 and 4 such massive successes. they completely changed the setting and era, that fundamentally impacted the gameplay. they weren't like cod, their no.1 competitor at the time, regurgitating the same content year after year they did something different and it absolutely worked. and a minority, of which you are a part of, were not pleased with it because they didn't follow the call of duty format and rehash bf3 and bf4. But they did end up making an objectively better game. a masterclass of a first-person shooter the immersion was immaculate and the grit depicted was the opposite. so I don't get this take at all wherever i hear it, bf3 and 4 were great games but their fanboys never looked past their nostalgia of it to ever enjoy bf1 or praise it, god forbid.
THIS TBH.
Bf1 feels and plays like Battlefront and is a huge step back from the previous games. (The game looked stunning though)
Yeah no, Battlefield 1 is the most overrated game in the franchise and started every bad habit Battlefield has had since. There's nothing immersive about spawning tanks from a menu, it was bad enough that Battlefield 4 removed air fields for planes. Not to mention the game played like a WW2 shooter pretending to be WW1. The actual shooting was awful and made the guns feel inconsistent, especially with crap like the sweet spot mechanic, and the general gameplay feel was weirdly floaty just like V and 2042 are. The changes to Conquest tickets completely messed with the flow of a match and discouraged people from PTFO. Not to mention the actual good things that BF1 did like Operations were just completely dropped in the following games too.
Did you completely ignore the awful vehicle system that spawned from that game along with the streamlining and redundancy of certain classes? When was the last time you legitimately used a repair tool in BF1? When was the last time you didn't skip a revive or ignored teammates because they'd skip a revive? What was so wrong with BF4's revive system that they neutered it with BF1 by making the "rev up" for the syringe useless? Also, do you actually think that planes feel good to use? The progression? The amount of time it takes for you to unlock battle-packs again? BF1's controller sensitivity at 100% being slower than BF4's 80%? There's just a lot of bullshit with this game like balance, mechanics being redundant, and streamlining of the wrong things. Also, for whatever reason, 1 assault guy seems to be useless against an MKV now compared to launch. Not to mention that the problem with BF4's open maps became worse with how sniping was revamped in BF1 by making it stupid easy and giving you a random modifier that seems to be divisive. Yeah, god forbid they criticize both BF4 and 1 for the amount of BS we dealt with during both games' lifecycles like bad balance, bad launches, bad progression, or just inferior systems to predecessors. I like BF4 over 1, but that doesn't mean I won't call out BS like spawn beacons, glitch spots that were never patched out on places like Locker or Outbreak, or the throwaway DLC modes.
As far as destruction goes, BF1's map problems stem from unrestricted destruction where major objectives desperately needed natural/indestructible cover to avoid defense standing out in the open like the Italian campaign maps.
@@Guranga93 ya, you’re wrong, the game stepped forward in every conceivable way, everything about that game was done right, it worked right out of the gate on day 1, the atmosphere and audio is a masterclass for the whole industry, the guns were much more realistic, having their own character for each gun that was unavoidable and unmodifiable which promoted skill to use them, it penalized people that mismanaged weapon fire by loosening bullet groupings for panic fire, the vehicles were well balanced, the maps were good (mostly, suez is terrible).
The gimmick of behemoths actually did its job and gave the game a reason to rally around a losing match and often makes the gameplay closer than it otherwise would have been but are still defeatable.
The classes were well balanced and made sense as well and the teamwork was the best in the series and very much determined the outcome of a match.
The smoke and particle effects for fog and dust storms were quite amazing and just put the atmosphere over the top and actually changed gameplay in meaningful ways.
I think you didn’t like how the guns fired and gave up before learning the nuances of the game.
its like after dice dropped the mastepiece that was BF1 they said "welp im never doin that again"
it almost feels like theyre TRYING to kill the franchise
lol ''masterpiece'' riiiiight
@@PapaJoJ if your gonna bait at least have it be believable
Lmao BF1 a "masterpiece" 😂
@@sharkbyte1565 Bf1 is far from a "masterpiece"
Battlefield 1 is far from a "Masterpiece"
"Oh how does Call of Duty keep selling so well and our Battlefield falls behind??"
Bruh because they've been making the same game for a decade and, guess what, that's exactly what the fans want.
Yawn 🥱 i rather play the same game that knows what it is rather than play a game that doesn't lol at least in cod we actually get you know good content 😂 when was the last time you bf fan boys had good content? Isn't this 3 games in a row of having terrible content??? Yet you stupid losers Continue to give EA money. Activision doesn't make us pay 70$ for a game with 7 seasons just to be left with 4 game modes and the only different game mode is tdm with the rest being copies of already popular game modes. second y'all most popular games are literally copy and paste bf4 and bf3 but i understand stupid fan boys like you never want to admit that. Lmfoaooo and if I'm not mistaken i see Alot of ppl say all EA and dice have to do is copy bf3 and bf4 😂 you know the SAME game.
I don't think I've ever seen a cod fan be all that happy about the state of the franchise either, but that might be more of an FPS playerbase thing than anything either specific game has unique to it. Cod does have the advantage that a much faster release time than Battlefield games means players will probably have at least one relatively recent one they like at a given time.
“So we need to make it more like cod?!?! 💵 💵????”
Cod is starting to die as well
@@ultmateragnarok8376 if they buy it, its what they want. Revealed preference.
BF3 beta on Operation Metro was insane. Different times back then
I went back into bf3 a couple years back. I realized I hated that map too much when I played the game before bf4 released. It was my favorite map when I revisited the game
I actually really liked metro, it was insane. I liked the bottleneck with both sides trying to overcome the other.
I almost cried thinking about that chill
Memmmberberries
I really miss stuff like that. Metro was one of my most favorite bf3 maps. I remember playing the bf3 beta way back when on the 360 and had a blast. I know people say bf1 is the best battlefield, but i don't those people played bf3 back then. That was great fun and I doubt DICE will ever go back to that style of BF again.
I’m pretty sure most if not all of the battlefield community just wants a mash up of bf3 and bf4 weapons and vehicles with bf1 graphics and chaotic atmosphere
Try convincing the "bf1 was the best bf ever" crowd. Its like arguing with a brick wall. Casuals killed bf.
@@Jack_93 oh yeah those folks are just absolutely mental
And that’s why the majority of the community should be ignored
bf1 felt intuitive and had amazing graphics but i always found the restrictions put on guns and damage falloff to ruin the fun a lot. But as a casual game bf1 rules. Its just that bf3 was so much more than a casual game.
@@Jack_93 Nothing has surpassed Bf1942. Guadalcanal with planes, ships, tanks, submarines, artillery. And since you only could spawn on bases you actually had fronts!
I think that front feel is what I miss the most. Not squads, but the whole team.
*Could spawn on ships too, which made for naval assaults.
21:25 the reason why Delta Force is so "similar" to BF2042 is because it was made by chinese... so yeah its basically the chinese copy of BF2042, under the name of an old military sim franchiese. I played Delta Force Black Hawk Down Team Sabre and it was a totally different idea of a shooter game, more focused on realism
I'm old.. 37... I member
The Chinese, Koreans and Japanese are the only ones left giving us good games, the west still trying to figure out what a woman is. I am playing Delta Force the moment it drops, Dice can get wrecked.
Delta Force ARE the one who created the "battlefield type game". The only reason why they made simulation it's because they had a contract with the army.
It's just a chinese studio who did take the license and make a good game.
@@thathandsomedevil0828 because they want to collect your data.
@@BeastMaster11-me1nb might as well falsify what ever data they need then. Who's gonna complain? The ccp? And at this point most gamers won't care, the West have stopped making good games because they went full retard. If the Chinese do then yeah it all sucks but it is what it is.
My favorite game is BF4, but I acknowledge BF1 is still an excellent game. I’ve talked about the decline of Battlefield multiple times in the in-game chat. There’s basically a consensus or at least a large majority that the franchise was great up to BF1 and its DLCs. The only people I’ve heard saying BF1 sucks were players who always stay inside vehicles.
Please give us a battlefield set in the cold war, it would be so awesome if you had multiple Warsaw Pact and NATO factions with unique weapons and vehicles from that era
A Battlefield game set in an alternative history Cold War world where the Cold War turned hot would be an extremely interesting game to play. Basically, the USSR vs the United States would be the main square off, with their respective allies being the sub factions in more specific maps. The Cold War also spanned a pretty big time period, so you could even play around and have weaponry/tech from the Korean War on one map, weapons and tech from the Vietnam War in the other, etc
Oh brother “generic the game”
@@avery.a5948 just cause a setting sounds generic at a literal sentence description doesn't mean it'll make a bad game, tell me you know nothing about game design without telling me you know nothing about game design, you could say "modern shooter with big maps" and ofc it sounds generic
@@avery.a5948 my brother in christ every games description could be labeled as generic.
"Mario platformer"
"Future themes fps"
"Open world fantasy"
No shit they sound generic but Mario Odyssey, Crysis, and Elden Ring are all games that stand out completely from their "generic" ideas.
I really appreciate that you specifically called out certain "Battlefield killers" and why their role as a BF Killer wasn't meant to be
im proud of when a fanbase is critical of its games and not blindly loyal because if you keep supporting the game regardless of its decline, it gets worse not better and layoffs always follow
I sort of feel like ea is trying to push out the older long time fans to usher in younger fans that are mindless consumers like cod has. That way they can just sell goofy skins and make bank every year because idiots will pay for it
If you look at the original reason why DICE decided to make Mirror's Edge, it was because they wanted to branch out from Battlefield and to make something different. That is what DICE needs right now. Take a break from Battlefield, make something completely revolutionary and different like Mirror's Edge, and come back to Battlefield when they actually have an idea. But that will never happen because Battlefield is the cash cow.
Bf4, with the atmosphere of BF1. That right their is how they can make money.
Thats just sound like a wet dream.
This is just a description of battlefield 3
@@robsmith6377 really? Damm i started battlefield series at 4. Seems 3 may be goated.
@@robsmith6377 accurate. bf3 and b1 are my favorite for the atmosphere, man, the immersion on these 2 is unmatched to this day.
@@robsmith6377was about to comment this. BF3 had such a good feel, especially with so many maps built around Rush. It really gave each map its own story
Its always so interesting that they are able to improve their games so much, only to Drop everything the Fans wanted every New game
I think people didn’t want BF1 INITIALLY. But yes, it is one of my top 2 BF games.
Didn’t you see the hype train? Everyone wanted it, if not just to shove it in COD Infinite’s face.
Battlefield 1 in battlefield 4 era
perfect game.Why can't ea figure this out
Exactly. It is so simple yet seems impossible to pull off.
When i heard about that open world campaign, i immediatly thought of the Golf Course campaign map for Bad Company. My favorite campaign map in the franchise.
You spawn on one side of a huge golf course, the president mansion is 3km away on the other side.
You can take a jeep and rush to the mansion, or attack outposts and towns to find better weapons and gadget. You could even steal tanks of you wanted to. There was even a secret island with powerful loot.
It was amazing.
As they love their "player choices", this is how its done.
it feels like you're underselling the aesthetic appeal of battlefield as well
i can only speak personally but all of my friends that play battlefield say that their favourite is bf1 because of the aesthetics of the game. you're right in that the general setting of the game doesn't matter, but that only counts if they can nail the vibes of whatever era the game is set in (hence why bfv was hated a lot around launch despite improving upon bf1's gameplay in a lot of ways)
There’s only so much I can talk about something before I feel like I’m rambling but trust me I’ll talk about it in the future
Honestly, I picked up what EA was putting down and immediately threw it away. I skipped out after 4 and have saved myself a lot of grief that the Battlefield community seems to be constantly dealing with. Sure, nothing's quite like Battlefield but I think that's okay because Battlefield isn't really like Battlefield anymore either.
shoulda stayed for 1 but I think I should have pieced out after 1 and I didn't
So you haven't played a Battlefield game in over a decade?
You have no need to be speaking here. Run along champ
U gotta play bf1 broski !
@@ChaoticMartianL
@@ServusVelux No u
Battlefield 1 was never my cup of tea, BUT holy, no one can say that BF1 lacked immersion. The immersion in BF1 was the best in gaming history
World At War’s campaign has a slight edge over it… *barely*
Main culprit is shareholders and these private equity firms
So many fans of Battlefield One in here and I'm just sitting around reminiscing about BF3.
BF1 was its highest selling title and alot of COD players migrated over
Level destruction is a must have for me in Battlefield. Ideally a return to the destruction found in Bad Company 2.
Battlefield Bad Company remake that would be a great start!
Or a remake of BC2 Vietnam
Saying battlebit is more a milsim than battlefield is wild , it was literally bf4 with mid maps, bandages and blocks
Battlebit has a bunch of weird milsim mechanics, he is not wrong
Battlebit is great. Gunplay is better, recoil is better, destruction is better, class system is better, squad system is better. It's what 2042 should have been, except with a roblox skin that immediately turns most people off.
@@j0g0g If the style was the only questionable thing about Battlebit, the game wouldn't have lost 90% of its playerbase...
It feels more like arms than battlefield
Battlefield 1 is my favorite battlefield there I said it. But just cause I and many others love the game doesn’t mean there’s also isn’t a part of the community that also didn’t like it and straight up hated the game at launch ( Just look at your favorite battlefield TH-camrs back in the day in how they talked about the game and also those who refuse to play anything that isn’t modern)
I feel bad for people who won’t even touch it.
@@CormacHollandI don't understand, why? The setting simply does not interest me. Same way that I love Elder Scrolls and hate Fallout. Games are mechanically very similar but I just think the Fallout setting is sad and gross.
You're right but I feel that part of the community is a small minority that just makes A LOT of noise, 95% of us were at least fine with the game and most liked it.
You should pin this
@@flsicario4696 contractionally I can not because of the sponsorship
Remember when saying "There's a camper in that building!" And the building would be destroyed, Pepperidge farms remembers
Battlefield 4 weapon progression and customization is S tier
A battlefield Vietnam remake would be cool.
BF1 was my jam for years. Wish i could go back and enjpy it like i did when it came out. What a wild ride. Operations was the best.
Even with all the feedback we gave them they were adamant they knew better and kept the stupid hero based games
As a historian BF1 was great and you can see the passion behind the project, everything had context and historical background that was explained IN GAME , just hope they get Back into the same mindset for the next game 🖤
Battlefield is an atmospheric game first and foremost. It's not about competition. It's about immersing yourself in a hellish war atmosphere and reveling in the fact that all the wild shit going on, the soldiers screaming, the buildings falling, the mortars whistling overhead, all these cinematic moments you expect from a scripted campaign are all the result of 64 players just playing the game. The phrase "COD is for boys, Battlefield is for men" didn't just refer to the fact that Battlefield had advanced mechanics like destruction while COD didn't, it referred to the fact that COD used it's settings to just simply give context for why you had an M4 rather than a Thompson, while Battlefield fully immersed you in it's setting with intense, visceral audio and visuals that made the player respect the idea of warfare. When you're playing Battlefield 1 and see a mortar blow your buddy to smithereens while their character screams in agony, or in BF3 you hear the soldier next to you scream "I FUCKING CAN'T TAKE THIS SHIT ANYMORE" because of an audio trigger caused by the wall next to you getting blown out by a T90, you chuckle darkly and internally go "damn, I'm glad I'm not there." That's Battlefield. It's not necessarily *mechanically* authentic, it sure as fuck used to be *atmospherically* authentic. And until DICE realizes this, Battlefield will never return to it's former glory. If you're one of these people unironically calling Delta Force a spiritual successor to BF3/4, or someone who hosts those dumb US vs US servers in BF4, you're entirely missing the point.
all they had to do was make ww2 just like battle field 1....
7:17 thats hurtful
I swear most yalls complaints against bf1 is just not valid yall just want to hate every game has its flaws but some of these are just absolutely wild
3:17 Hunt mentioned
25:58 Firestorm was fun enough as a base mode that it had the bones to succeed, but not as something attached to BFV. The gunplay was fine but had major issues that stemmed from being BFV, the vehicles would've been better had they not been extremely overpowered thanks to it being part of BFV, it having a $40 barrier of entry being a game that was struggling to break 20k players did not help, and lastly not updating it beyond adding 2 guns the season after it came out does not help it. It was a doomed mode that was really fun.
1:39 Nah I'm not that....
...I'm just a jaded cynical gamer who hates anything that isn't theses three games: 1942, 2, 2142.
Also nice Pippa reference.
A battlefield boomer pretty much. Old stuff is better,anything new is bad. This is you.
@@hastyhawkeye
No lol. Stupid take. BF Zoomer thinks BF2042 is good. Anything old is bad and anything new is good. Your stupid logic.
You're forgetting about the map destruction?That was one of the coolest features of battlefield
When writing the script I didn’t include it because it’s like the no brainer things that automatically comes to mind when I say Battlefield like it comes with the title. It’s like if I were to explain the importance of shooting a gun in an FPS like it just comes with the territory. But yeah I should have still included it
I love that I can play Ewok Village on my steam deck
I'm at a point of apathy with shooters, but especially large shooters. It just hurts to see all of the AAA space lose its identity becauae Warzone and Apex popped off, so now we have to chase gen Z's parents' credit cards for everything at all times. Everything has to be the next thing, no one can be content with second place because the shareholders won't have it. Unfortunately it just doesn't seem like indie studios are quite up to making Battlefield-scale titles just yet. It'll just have to live on as a memory of a moment in gaming I'm glad I got to be a part of
Idk if thats just me, but I actually love the sweet spot mechanic, defo not realistic, but its a good game mechanic IMO
People hated bfv not bf1
People also hated BF 1. The opinion shifted when BF V and after that BF 2042 turned out to be even worse.
@@David-eh9leWhat? Some people maybe hated it but overall it was received really well and brought so many new players to battlefield, you just making stuff up no one started liking bf1 just because of bfv, it was well liked before that by most of the community.
Everyone here be talking about Battlefield 1 while here I am sitting alone in the corner wondering when we'll get a third Bad Company game...
Remember that you can still cop a copy of bf4 premium for around 12 bucks. Bf1 is nice, but you should still have a taste of the golden era
I just happened upon this video, but I think the poster should give "Squad" a chance if they're okay with more realism and cooperation.
I really like squad and hell let loose but you really do have to be in the mood to play milsims
@thecosmonaut4221 I feel it.
BF1 was pure elation. Everything about the game - the settings, audio and visuals, weapons, vehicle (and horse) gameplay were fantastic. The maps offered something for every type of of gameplay. When a flank worked out there was nothing like it.
h o r s e
Ending support for battlefront 2 was criminal.
I want them to take inspiration from Battlfront 2 and Battlefield 1, but that's asking too much apparently.
I didnt know Chito had her own youtube channel
No mention of Squad? I wasn't playing it at the time but I heard some veterans say they had a huge influx (relative to the existing player base at least) after people soured on 2042.
Squad and other games as such are in a league of their own. Cause literally they are in a leave of their own. milsim games is one of the paths that playing battlefield can lead you into for sure but it’s not the next step forward for the franchise. Sure there’s a blend of that in it but that’s the thing it’s only a blend of such mechanics. If done too much the community can reject it like they did with the mechanics seen in BfV. ( I will take squad over Arma 3 any day)
BF1 is now the most adored game in the franchise by the fans, some months ago the reddit basically decided BF3 and BF1 were the top tier. Also is now one of the most played BF games, lots of people are discovering it now, and its honestly perfect to me, even the campaing from that game is good
BF1 is only adored by the babies that started playing Battlefield in 2016
@@TheJohn_Highway i've played EVERY single battlefield title. BF1/bf4 are the only ones i keep returning to. your statement is blatently wrong and your perception of the community is ignorant. the servers for bf1 are still full and a ton of fun to play on for me and my friends.
You know a game is good when it's a AAA title like Battlefield 1 and still has more players than the current Battlefield entry, 8 years after release. These AAA games usually die pretty quick once the next comes out, but not Battlefield 1 (or V, really).
@@Colourless1004nah he’s right alot of the older fan base and our community don’t play anymore or they don’t play battleifeld anymore
They should make a 40K battlefield since every world and universe is fighting
If there are female characters in BF it's gonna suck. Simple as that.
This is not Unreal Tournament, PUBG o Forntine. Look at BF3, BF4 (MP) and BF1.
Based.
And not exactly wrong either.
Dude can we get a new battlefield Vietnam? That game was my childhood, lan party with the bros
There’s a lot of false information in the section where The Finals is brought up (15:04), because the community isn’t trying to, and never wanted to, make the game into a battlefield killer. In fact,there was a major controversy within the community when the new “search and destroy”-like mode named Terminal Attack replaced the normal Cashout ranked mode because the community believed it simply didn’t feel like “The Finals” anymore. This is a sentiment the community still heavily subscribes too and labeling them as trying to take the developer’s vision and hijack it to make it more like battlefield is not only misinformation but flat out untrue.
That’s my bad in the wording of it since the most I ever see when it comes to people are TH-camrs who aren’t The finals TH-camr but just feature the game on their channel every now and then. Channels like Jackfrags and others like that who when they start playing somewhere in their videos they mention “How doesn’t this game have a conquest mode yet like we’re all waiting for it” and you go to the comment sections of these videos with people all sharing the same sentiment so portraying that info as the finals community as a whole as my fault but that wasn’t the intention just shit wording. Also I’m still waiting for them to take out terminal attack from the comp playlist I’m not playing the game again till then
Bf1 is a masterpiece used as an example for artistic design, music and gameplay. Of course you can dislike it but its a reality that is hard to match. I don't know why they cant try something similar again.
Bro bf1 was the most cinematic game made. Bf4 was best tho all round
They should just do alternate history. But like all battlefield games it won’t be playable for 2 years after launch.
Bf1 might be in a rough state right now, but no one ever said that it is an objectively bad game. Unless your a historian who dislikes the historical inaccuracy or admittedly forced diversity present, it’s a phenomenal game.
I never liked BF1 because when it was announced I really thought they would change everything to fit being in WWI, but in the end it played just like every other modern era Battlefield
@@pedgewehr gameplay would be too slow for the battlefield series if they wanted to make it an authentic ww1 game. There are some games that do trench warfare and bolt action -only (or mostly) but this would immediately kill arcadeness of BF
@@pingwin_nielot They didn't make it authentic. It is a copy paste bf game like always. It is a reskin. I would rather have they try a slower battlefield than a character based battlefield .....
@@pedgewehr Not really a copypaste, cause it brings a lot of new mechanics, just the core that is more or less the same as in previous games - because its battlefield and not some other franchise lol. As for the realism, thats what i said lol. Authentic WW1 game would be insanely boring, realistic trench warfare isn't something that fits into model of fast paced arcade fps shooter
@@pedgewehr if you want something else then try something else and not demand that Battlefield is modified because you dont like it anymore.
Try verdun for example, didnt play it but if i remember correctly it fits much better to what you're describing
BF1, BF4, and BFV.... are my all time favorites
3:46 that tongue tho
Great now I’m self conscious. But in my defense I record most of my audio at like 2 am so I’m already whispering into my mic witch doesn’t help the situation at all 😭
@@thecosmonaut4221 noo man i mean the person in the video, he put out his tongue and it was funny to me 😂😆
@@thecosmonaut4221 yeah he mens the "whats good for the player" dood
I know exactly what I want from battlefield, a lot of unique guns in every category, lots of different vehicles that feel balanced, classes, cool maps and destruction
It really shouldn't be hard for Dice at all.
Yes this would be fantastic. Alternatively a bunch of different guns from various battlefield games with a mixture of battlefield 3,4 and 1 maps.
Battlefield 1 was the last great battlefield game. Shit was epic to play during it's prime
Dear, TK1138
Thank you for sharing with us such a *GREAT* presentation covering what the franchise's situation is in it's current totality. I felt as though more often than not that the images, and words being expressed in this video were just ripped right out of my own consciousness, and mouth; especially when contenplating the thought of all the "Battlefield Killers" we've seen come, and go over the years. It's nice to finally hear a member of the community give the same idea of you, but it's another to unite all the voices into one. You have my trust TK, so I sincerely wish to see more of your perspectives as we progress into the next title. May your light shine into this desperate fanbase - we almost can't fucking win without you.
P.S.: I'd be damned if I ever catch myself playing War Thunder, and actually take it seriously.
27:26 holy pippa
im a simple man.
give me bf3's vehicle and gun physics and im in. Until then i ain't moving from bf3
BF1 is the epitome.
It’s okay to be wrong
Maybe not the epitome, but it's really good tho, i think 3 and 4 are examples of "Battlefield games"
BC2 was where the franchise peaked. Only people who haven't played it think otherwise.
@@Guranga93 its okay to cry
Let’s get a battlefield set in vietnam
I don't even care
I like gun
I shoot gun
I am happy
I don't like battlefield 2049
The SCAR meta is aids
The maps are rough even if the idea is interesting
Wayy too fucking chokey for a battlefield map
I gotta say that BF1 was the best one imo coming from bfbc, bc2, bf3, bf 4 and hard-line back in the day however I didn't care for bloom and the sweet spot mechanic for snipers
They should just release battlefield 3 II: electric boogalo
It's a joke but that would literally be better than anything they are cooking right now
2nd that , add in the sentry kit and flame thrower from bf1, maybe a new map,
whatever the new battlefield game would be i hope they go all in on military sci fi, add more unique guns the function in extremely different ways from one another, interesting vehicles that shake up the match, go over each and every mechanic and see if they could use some changing or should be left alone.
Where did destructible environments go? I want bad company 2 levels of destruction again.
4 was the peak of envirronmental deatructionn with giant set pieces like 100 story sky scrapers colapsing.
Did you confuse bf1 with bf5? Genuinely asking. Bf1 is a great game
10:32 yeah bro people really “Hated” bf1. You know one of the most critically acclaimed battlefield games? Yeah people “hated” that. (Buddy are you high or something)
Yes people did. die hard bf3 and 4 fans refuse to take of their nostolgia goggles and actually give battlefield 1 its props. I know it’s 8 years old but there was a small vocal minority who did hate on the game and you can still go find them if you look at Reddit
Many People hated bf1 when it first came out. But it was outweighed by others who enjoy it. To many it’s still a good game but it definitely have its flaws, BIG flaws at that
@@mixyagi1331 what the hell are you talking about? Absolutely everyone adored bf1 from the reveal trailer when everyone was upset with infinite warfare. Are you people in some kind of delusion or something?! EVERYONE THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO KILL COD (which was basically impossible) I know what happened because I was there when the trailer dropped
@@Ahmadabdal_ I’m talking about when the game FIRST dropped, ofc it was loved when the trailer was out. But many were disappointed with how DICE did BF1. I was there when it first came out and when the sub Reddit was a war hell. Personally I have my own opinions on it but it’s still good
@@mixyagi1331 who the hell are these "many" who were dissapointed?! you people are clearly delusional!. It was one of the most widely accepted as one of the absolute best battlefield game AT LAUNCH! maybe it was your group of friends that didn't like it but the online discourse was that it was absolutely amazing from maps to the weather effects to levolution to even the setting. You people are genuinely making up memories
Battlefield 1, while immersive and a game that I thoroughly enjoyed, did have its balance issues. Compared to BF4, especially in the vehicles department: Tanks were more powerful and could camp from afar. (Grand ops arty truck comes to mind.) Planes only really had to worry about limited stationary AA, or fellow aircraft, as stingers or igla launchers did not exist yet (in addition, you had the devs buffing the Ilya Muromets strategic package which now allowed the pilot to kill half if not the entire enemy team while playing grand ops breakthrough) Guns had random bullet deviation and were inaccurate (which was reduced and made better later on in the games life cycle) and were balanced like WW1 weapons. LMGs felt heavy and smgs felt light, which while cool does not however translate to an overall balanced shooter, as the assault class reigned supreme as the go-to class for kills throughout its life cycle.
Overall, Battlefield 1 was an immersive game which I have fond memories of, however it could have been balanced better.
I play bf4 regularly. With the server shutdown, I will more than likely drop battlefield entirely unless they make something with the same sole.
Try BF1 or BFV, but your modern self would get smoked I can tell
wait you still play it one 360? because only 360 and ps3 version are being shutdown for bf3, bf4, and bfH
@@9mmtrilla yeah cause the snipers have aim bot pre 100m
@@9mmtrillaIf is coming from the older games he would more than likely dominate wtf are you talking about 😂
@Guranga93 it's like going from 30 to 120 fps and smoking everyone
Great analysis - I think the Battlefield name remains as a shell, and everything around it and within it has irreversibly changed since BF1. So long and thank you for the good times!
They're saying the exact same bullshit they said with bf5 and 2042. That inspires no hope with literally any battlefield fan....
No one hated BFV for lack of innovation. People hated it because it was not a realistic and accurate game by historical standards. Still beats running around as Nicky Minaj in MWII though.
When lego?
Next vid
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While I wouldn't mind a 2142 remaster, I'm worried about how well it'll be executed.
Hello from Russia
Without David Goldfarb there won't be a good Battlefield game, it's as simple as that. He was to the Battlefield franchise what Hideo Kojima was for Metal Gear.
Bad Company, Bad Company 2, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield 1. HE was the lead game designer of them all.
The only decent thing modern DICE could ever hope to make would be a remaster of the older games. But a sequel? No shot, they simply lack the knowhow and the talent.
Wait... Next Battlefield? Please no. I don't want my emotions played like this again.
Dont get me wrong BF3/4 where good but BF1 is the most complete.. intense.. realistic..brutal game they EVER released! Nothing will ever top that period!
Ea and dice ruined bf
16:00 One thing we always Loved about Battlefield... is the graphics.
So Batlebit can only do so much.
In reality we, the players want the WHOLE package. Not only parts of what makes it good...
They need to play it safe no gay shit