I've been told I messed up and the "Dr Lupo" I was referring to is actually Zlaner. Just thought I'd point that out. I didn't see that guys name in the lobby they were in lol
Halo infinite doesn’t need Battle Royale in general my opinion because they might shaft the main game like warzone did with the last 2 cods and probably vanguard
ok man comparing making formulaic content out of fear of branching out to Gwyn repeatedly linking the fire hit a little too close to home. Maybe it's time I embrace the dark.
That battle rifle went so hard. For the first week. Haven't gotten a kill with it since and idk why lmao. Tell ya what though, the only thing bigger than the SR7 is my dick when I'm using the SR7.
Asking a BR-centric streamer their opinion on a game that doesn’t have a BR mode is like asking a lion its opinion on a gazelle sanctuary. PROBABLY not the most objective take you’re gonna get.
Hur dur, Squad is trash because there's not BR mode. Pick any game that's unique at all anymore and people want to turn it into battle royale, dumbed down "rpg", or an action adventure open world mess.
these losers are to scared to play something else because they are scared they be forgotten, but most people watch them not for the game but the personality, they need relies that to have less sleepless nights
Holy shit yes. I haven’t even gotten into the video yet because I’m looking at all the comments. It’s exactly like you said, everyone is both correct and incorrect
Call of duty is so bad. It’s BR mode can stay with the cod sweats and with the cod streamers who spend hours and hours on their game streaming every day on one game losing their sanity and making it seem like halo needs a BR mode. It does not need a BR mode. We got too many damn BRS already. Halo doesn’t need one. Those who say otherwise are heretics. And they must be silenced.
The player count is poor. It's the problem Halo has had for about10 years as it plays too much like other shooters to carve out its own large and unique fanbase. It needs to go back to its arena shooter/slower movement roots with all its changes being to the environment and sandbox. Nowadays Halo, CoD and Battlefield are mostly just slide sprinting and bunny hopping around corners with colorful guns and immersion breaking skins.
This trend is complete bullsh*t, BR is so flawed as a formula because no matter what you do RNG always catches up to you. BR needs to die or be revamped, mark my words.
@@fettycheese2498 Gave me chills when he said it tbh. There were so many mic drop moments in this video and he was so eloquently precise in how he addressed the whole situation
“The last fucking thing i want halo infinite to do is go out of its way to cater to an audience that are not its core fans” I couldn’t have said it better myself act man.
@@deleteduser3455 i disagree. I think they made a MP that is as close to what the fans want as they possibly could. They obviously cant just keep remaking halo 2/3. There is always going to be additions. And dont even bring up “SPRINT”. Sprint is inevitable. Every game now has a sprint mechanic. But they brought back the golden triangle as best they could with infinite. It is halo at its core. The battlepass is a different story. Im not too happy that they locked customization behind the BP. but its free to play. So either you get free customization or a well populated game with a thriving community. And ill take the community any day
@@Patbd2552 yup, as a returning player, I stopped after after the Halo 4 and 5 disappointment... Halo Infinite feels great to play, I've played every day since the beta released.
@@xLionsxxSmithyx same I quit after I played 4&5 played each for about a week each and I was hoping halo infinite would be good and so far so good I’m actually having fun playing
I dont get why everyones saying it needs a br? I mean, there already is one, its one of the best guns in the game. It's a classic, I mean that 3 shot burst, that heavy damage, those easy headshot kills, the combination of precision, stopping power, speed, versatility, I mean it's just gorgeous.
I HATE people that HATE other people. The comment I respond to did not spread HATE. That is good. BUT! I get a lot of HATE comments on my amazing videos and I HATE it. Please don't start spreading HATE. Do I have to HATE you too, dear ru
i was on a tf2 2fort map on team fortress 2 (tf2) and basically we were all having a (im ganna butcher this but im keeping it anyway) karayotsy kick dance party then a streamer joined promising free hats if you kill him in a certain way. everbody on his team (including me) basically had nothing to do because the entire enemy team was focused on him totally killed the joy out of it
I keep getting confused whenever people talk about BRs in Halo Infinite, and I'm like "Yeah, if theres no Battle Rifle in Halo Infinite i imagine people will be upset"
@@mr_jimmmmmmm I understand there was a unlimited respawn objective game mode in warzone and I love that but they removed it and I haven't got much extensive to really play the Battle Royale cuz I'll just die
Honestly I played Fortnite for about a year and a half and then got bored of it. Honestly don't find any other BR improves that to me as the main thing I didn't like was wasting time walking across empty planes just running for safety until you hear a single shot from behind. Plus always found RNG spawns to more just piss me off.
Thebattle royale market is so beyond oversaturated at this point, its actually refreshing for me to see that one of my favorite franchises is not getting sucked into that black hole.
@@HCUhardcoreUnited they can do what they please and there is nothing wrong with that, but in this current internet landscape your platform can gain a massive amount of popularity and decline in under two years. By having a severe passion for what you do instead of just trying to make profit you can establish a loyal audience.
@@submonger7500 Agreed. That's why it's important to make a smart move to increase your business and enjoy your work while your at it. The only thing am annoyed at is how much sway streamers/content people have. They have large following sure, but you don't speak for us.
I've never understood the obsession with battle royale. If I wanted to feel like my space was constantly being encroached on I could just move to my mother in law's house.
The idea is cool but the problem is that most br games don't do anything interesting with the concept. Im indifferent towards Fortnite but at least that game did something unique with the building mechanics.
I like BR modes but the things that kills me is a lot BR is the main focus for the game. Usually the BR isn't great and the rest of the modes suffered also.
The hindsight here is hilarious. I could not fathom how awful a 343 managed Battle Royale would be given Infinite's current status as a tombstone carried by ants
This is one of the most well put together and rationally explained videos on this subject. This guy really knows how to take an unbiased position and lay down the facts while not attacking those he doesn’t 100% agree with. Mad respect, had to subscribe
@@elitemanning_2-0 it died since it has no content less content then halo 5. If it had the same content like halo 3 or halo reach that came out more then a decade ago this game would be great.
@@DB-co8vx I’m sure they will make the right decision and do what the fans want since they’re obviously listening to the fans in the delaying. This games set up to be killer.
@@thechristfollower1723 clearly they’re listening to the fans you idiot. Have you seen the campaign overview? The multiplayer overview? The flights? They are listening to the community.
I appreciate streaming but I feel streaming has destroyed game integrity and most gamers get left out cause developers wanna cater to the few. GREAT VIDEO
@@totalygamingtemplar no. But I am going back to play it. I hate how it has such untapped potential, like imagine if the story and the set pieces were on par with the gameplay
its worse than that is "you guys wont watch this because you view me as a BR only streamer so i am trapped because I need your approval to enjoy my life"
@@Bloodfangmh battle royale is a form of content. Just look at what warzones done for Cod. You dont have go play it if you arent a fan, but its good to have the option
Same. Although I'll probably play multiplayer a bit more now with infinite Also, who gives a fuck if infinite never even has a BR? Every other game has it, just play one of those. Focus on the rest of the game
BR SWAT in Halo 5 is probably the most competitive since the projectiles are so precise. Watching the shots from you BR go in a 100% straight line is so satisfying.
Cool video. Never mind the fact that they were 50% right. The game is now pretty much dead, although it's not because of the lack of a BR. It's because of a lack of content. Could have been a great successor to the arena shooter we all love, but it turned into nothing.
Hey buddy yeah I admit first launch was very lacking in content and games should be complete upon release (looking at you COD and Battlefield) But the core gameplay in Infinite makes it the replay value sooo good. Especially if you have a squad of buddies to jump on with. Halo Infinite has enough content right now to keep it fun to play over and over again. What's more 343 is activity listening to the community and updating to our feedback which is something than cannot be said about EA or Epic Games. With Forge, new maps and modes, co-op campaign and new season launching soon Infinite will have everything it should have had at launch and more. I agree 343 should have given us more on release and they get some points taken away for that but they have done and incredible job with everything already included and they are actively responding to our feedback and giving us the content we want. TO imply that Halo is dead is just kinda stupid. The game is wildly popular and people need to stop saying everything needs a BR mode, turn their misty eyes away from COD and realize Halo has so much more to offer. COD isn't bad, I love warzone and MW, but the last two games have seriously sucked and Halo is a way more consistent series. With the exception of Halo 5 of course.
@@alexyeager4933 by this point cod sucks but is still superior in gameplay, response times and even graphics… than halo infinite, and about battlefield.. oh well we dont need to talk about that
What was said. "in order for this game to succeed, it needs a BR!" Translation. "In order for me to milk this game to my viewers and make Money, it needs a BR!" No, Doc. No it doesn't.
4:07 Hahaha that part killed them all. Pls dont let these immature kids ruin Halo with a BR mode. There are actually people on this planet that aren't hyperactive energy drink addicts that have nothing else to offer than a highly competitive high adrenaline junky mode with no real progression. These soulless short living sheep's don't even see the fact that they are destroying the gaming industry with the demand of one and the same game mode over and over again. Fu these people from the deepest part of my heart really. Screw 'em. When the clueless people want to decide, it is then, when it gets really dangerous.
I LOVE the constant balance you show ripping into the streamers while giving respect at the same time. God bless you act Man. You brilliant, beautiful man.
I don't get why people try and measure a game's success based on it's views on Twitch. It's absolutely ridiculous, Twitch viewers are a very small minority of the whole gaming community.
Yea for real. Games sell millions and there’s a couple hundred thousand viewers on one game. It’s like less than 5% of the player base watching. It makes no sense.
Even if it was, views wouldn’t be a good way to ultimately judge a game’s success. Some games are successful and fun, but just don’t work well as entertainment for a live stream scenario
Look at Skyrim and the Witcher 3! They don’t have multiplayer modes AT ALL, have basically NO viewers on Twitch and yet they still sell copies and are still getting released on new platforms YEARS after release due to popular demand. Games don’t need streaming views to be successful.
I know this comment is super late, but... Having played Halo since it's release in 2001, I can genuinely say that I would love a Halo BR. Do I think it needs it, no... But I think it would be fun, assuming it's made the right way. While I still enjoy playing Fortnite, and I had a good time with both Apex and Warzone, I think those games are too far away from what a Halo BR *needs* to be. Honestly I believe that a Halo BR just needs to be more Halo but just on a larger scale. No having to pick up shields, no additional armor, no different attachments for weapons or awkward interfaces. Just drop us onto Zeta Halo with Banished and UNSC weapons scattered around the map, like it would be in multiplayer, and let us find them, pick them up, and fucking shoot each other. They can even take a page out of Blackout's book and utilize past and current maps in the landscape. Can you imagine playing Halo with 99 other people? 25 squads of 4 just duking it out on the biggest, most open, most beautiful Halo map we've ever seen? The fact of the matter is that all the stuff for a BR in Halo is already there. Infinite introduced a bunch of different equipment, and you can even bring back some of the older ones from past games, especially for maneuverability (looking at you Jetpack and Grav Lift). Imagine coming up on someone from behind just for them to bubble shield you... Imagine grapple hooking onto a tree or building and lobbing a Plasma onto an enemy player from 50 yards away! And then, oh this is great! And then, sharing it with people through some sort of file... share... wait. Facebook. Anyway, the map could be designed for the different movement options in mind, and you could have intense battles that last on multiple layers of engagement. Infinite also introduced variations on different weapons. Hell, you could even acquire them the same way you did in the campaign: hunting down a high value target. Implement a sort of PVPVE. Side note: I can't believe those weapons aren't currently available for use in the actual multiplayer. The overall point here is that a Halo BR doesn't have to be fancy, or even *new*... It just needs to be Halo. And the reason I hope it never exists is because the developers will never understand that..
Battle Royal is garbage and I love that these same streamers rely on 10 year olds with their mommy's credit card watching them play Battle Royal. The hypocrisy is staggering.
I was in the side of not wanting a Battle Royal, but if I had to pick between not having Battle Royal and not having the the Battle Rifle I'd pick not having the Battle Rifle.
I’m glad everyone’s coming back to this and pointing out how Dr Disrespect was saying the age demographic for the game, it’s not actually the demographic, it’s just what’s always on his mind.
In 2021, *not* having a BR is what sets you apart from the rest of the shooters on the market. 100% agree with ActMan here, and I appreciate the fact that none of the shade thrown in the video was in a mean spirited way.
4:07 Hahaha that part killed them all. Pls dont let these immature kids ruin Halo with a BR mode. There are actually people on this planet that aren't hyperactive energy drink addicts that have nothing else to offer than a highly competitive high adrenaline junky mode with no real progression. These soulless short living sheep's don't even see the fact that they are destroying the gaming industry with the demand of one and the same game mode over and over again. Fu these people from the deepest part of my heart really. Screw 'em. When the clueless people want to decide, it is then, when it gets really dangerous.
“What these streamers are really saying is that they can’t sell their viewers on a game if it doesn’t have a different version of the same shit they’ve been exclusively playing for the past 3-5 years.” Nailed it.
@@loki76 It really isn't, but go ahead and play, what? Warzone? Any Cod game as a matter of fact? Fortnite? what games series or long-running games exist nowadays that aren't the "same shit"? FIFA FORZA Cod Fortnite Battlefield (2042 could change this) Basically any game in a series or getting constant updates is the " same shit"
Me too. It's like everyone is more focused on an individual or individuals playing a game rather than enjoying it themselves or with their buddies. That's what halo was all about, a shooter with a high skill ceiling but your obnoxious little brother could still have fun with you and your friends. These streamers are irrelevant, just have fun with the game.
@@billyaguilar1192 yeah that game is still played to this day ( 800- 2k population) even though losing support In 2017 and having such a bad reputation.
I mean, yeah, but those are exactly the defining traits of the genre lol. It's like if somebody said "Racing sims are outdated at this point" and then you'd go "Yeah, but Mario Kart is doing fine, and aren't racing sims the same thing, just way more realistic and with no items?" (Not saying that I agree with either of those genres being outdated btw)
@@Howitchewstofeel5gum Yeah you're right. And you really put it in a pretty good perspective for me since I am a racing sim sorta guy. Honestly I just wanted to ridicule the guy who said that. Since he's obviously pretty clueless.
If they want a BR; just have people good at making forge maps make “Hunger Games” like in reach. Literally the funnest moments I’ve ever had on forge workd
I played a Reach map in the custom games browser on Forge World that used the entire map (As it's the biggest one ever created) and it was a FFA battle royal game type. It seems like it'd be fun but it got boring fast, especially since the shield recharge rate was longer and shields were weaker to help out with the balancing. I just don't get why some people obsess over BR modes. When I play Warzone with CoD, every match is usually the same thing where all players always go to the exact same location, despite having such a huge map to explore and to ambush people. It also doesn't help that everyone has armor in that BR game so it creates a weapon meta that you have to use to actually compete with even the most basic players. I couldn't see it working with Halo with the balancing of weapons and vehicles, as if you came across a team of 2 or more guys and you have a Plasma Rifle or SMG and they have Battle Rifles, you'll be screwed
Dr. Disrespect talking about seeing it for ages 11, 12, 13, 14, but that he cannot see anything above that... that aged well given what he has been involved in~
"When this game launches, viewership is not going to be good" There you go. That is exactly what these streamers are focused on - views - not the actual game itself or the game's playerbase.
It's the same reason why Modern Warfare seems like nobody plays it because all the streamers just play Warzone because it's free to play. The streamers are just looking for the next big BR game to jump on to boost their revenue, meanwhile players will still be playing Infinite even if there's never a BR
@@deepwinter4263 at the same time though sandbox arena shooters are kinda dull. Like Titanfall 2 genuinely has the best gameplay of any shooter in the last 10 or so years and yet that game is dead dead.
The idea that a Halo games multiplayer needs a BR to bump up its numbers is goddamned insane. It's pretty clear these streamers are terrified that Halo will actually take viewers away from their BR garbage.
I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s because they are terrified of viewers dismissing or looking away from their particular brand, I just think that from a streaming perspective, they know that Halo is a big title, it has popular brands, and big money behind it through Microsoft, and so they see it this; if Halo can uphold a particular audience that juxtaposes w high viewership for those streamers than they want to maximize that outcome which in their eyes are BR’s. Now I disagree w that incentive, but I don’t think that it’s because they are afraid that Halo will be successful to a point that it will bring viewers away from their BR brand. I mean if it’s popular as an arena type shooter than those streamers will gravitate to that type of shooter because it makes them money. They just see that arena type shooters will not give them that viewership that they believe they would have if there was a BR.
Yes, that's exactly how it came off, as BR is the best way to get people with a form of ADD to keep watching these quick matches that most people barely even pay attention to as they're all typing furiously in chat desperately trying to be funny, and get attention.
Completely agree. Anybody who isn't playing this on release is probably going to be watching whoever is playing it. And let's be real, for all the complaining these guys are doing they're going to be playing and streaming it as well. Who are they kidding?
And it's about goddamn time. I've hated BR ever since it came out with PUBG and Fortnite. I never thought CoD would stoop as low as to include a shitty BR mode, but I guess they'll do anything for that cash flow.
Long gone are the days were people would play games just to have fun. Everyone is trying to become the next big streamer, everyone is trying to bump or maintain their numbers. Halo doesn't need a BR to be successful, YOU need a BR to be successful.
Yhh thats what sucks, especially when games bend over backwards to cater to the pros and the streamers instead of the players, case in point rainbow six siege.
@@ArchieGamez true but I mean when I see changes like: house rework, night maps being removed, other reworks with less points of entry to make firefights easier to predict I feel like these are things only the pro community wants, they may hate some of Ubisoft's changes but that pales in comparison to the number of changes they have made for pros at the detriment of the original vision of the game and the gameplay desired by the fans of the early days, when siege wasn't big in the pro scene and thus still cared more about the players.
@@geilertobi231 I don't think it's necessarily the fault of capitalism, after all fans can bring in more money, take a look at games like gta, hitman, battlefield, these games aren't really prevalent if at all present in the pro scene yet rake in tons of cash. I think the problem is that they think what they are doing is the best method to make money when it is not, capitalism is great for games because it will encourage companies to make the most money which generally means trying to appeal to fans, siege and similar games are in a position where they are making money, just not as much as they could be if they did what the fans want.
An example of why (generally) TH-camrs have better gaming opinions than streamers. They take their time when they form opinions where streamers don't. Look how stupid Disrespect sounds shooting from the hip with what he thinks about Halo Infinite. In one breath he claims to love Halo yet fundamentally misunderstands how chasing the tired trend of BR would only hurt Halo. When someone says they don't play the campaign of a game they're already suss in my mind. Nothing wrong with liking multiplayer but when you can't even watch a single player trailer without bringing up BR.... Thank God for Favyn and Act Man. Its a damn shame that devs put so much weight behind streamer opinions that are based purely in crap that doesn't apply to a normal player experience like viewership.
Umm, it's already a following a trend. Every single player triple A game is nowadays is trying to become a sandbox and Halo is following that trend. The only issue is if it will differentiate itself from the blandness that plagues other games.
Why is this piece of advise that i found because it was mentioned in a halo video about to help me with my new relationship im getting in to. It is great advice
1. Following trends is what got caused the downfall of Halo in the first place 2. Campaign and good, solid, arena multiplayer is what Halo needs to be successful, end of discussion 3. Actually Dr. Disrespect having a battle royale would be appealing to the "13, 14 year old demographic"
Well said. Someone also mentioned that "if you don't like BR, just don't play it", which is flawed thinking considering that levelling up is tied behind challenges, which the BR mode definitely will have. So if you want to level up, you'd have to play the BR mode to get some challenges done.
No it didn't. "Halo died following trends" please elaborate. Poor execution and lame campaign are trends now so I guess your right. They made too many halos that NEVER pushed the limits or felt the same as the original hype. Not following trend. Pretty sure we ALL KNOW a BR would definitely hold MORE players. Idc if you don't like BR this isn't about you. It's about the game as a whole to the fucking planet lmao
And for Act to say "cater to your old fans" is absolutely delusional from an income perspective. Also he says a BR down the line would be expected and welcomed. This guy's whole shtick is flip flopping with a consistent attitude to make a flip flopping, understandable opinion feel like a sub concrete fact. Entertaining, but yawn inducing. This is all my opinion btw 😁
"A game will die if it doesn't have battle royale" TF2 Fans currently keeping their game barely alive through hackers, lag bots, aimbotters, and a lack of updates for a handful of decades for years at a time and still going strong:
@@RaulSueve The playerbase and community as a whole doesn't need any content creators anymore, the community is still hard carrying the entire game as it is.
I don’t understand how these streamers can spend literally EVERY stream they record screaming literally and I quote CourageJD “I HATE THIS FUCKING GAME OH MY GOD!” Then when I new game comes out that looks awesome their immediate response is: I want this game to be more like the game I just screamed I hated. In fact, I have heard “ImMarksman” say: “the only reason so many people watch Call of Duty on twitch is because its so garbage to play they need to watch someone else suffer for them”. 343 isn’t trying to make a game so bad that people have to watch others to enjoy it. They want to make a game that you DON’T wanna watch on Twitch because its so awesome you wanna play it yourself!
Nobody gives a shit about streamability. The streamers are upset because their job is streaming and Halo will be huge, but it's harder for them to not stream BR
This is one of the most terribly aged videos I've ever seen. Halo dropped the silver platter and Dr. Disrespect revealed his true motivation for a battle royal. I feel bad for Act Man, but God this is truly a work of art.
I mean… i don’t like it either to be walking around a lot which is why I try to look for engagements in war zone whenever I can…. And the excitement I feel whenever I’m close to winning against 150 ppl is something…. BR can be fun and frustrating at the same time… strategic and fun to play with friends, it isn’t all that bad
I like the idea of the stakes being high but I don't like 20 minutes of my time being pointless because someone landed a headshot and killed me instantly from across the map
As an Arma 3 player....we wait, we walk, we observe, we walk, hold position, we walk, we die, we respawn, we wait, we ride helo, we land, we walk, we clear AO, we go home or we clear AO, we defend HQ, survive bombardment, we scream MEDIC! and then we all die.
@@TheHealthConscounist yeah everyone gets that battle royale is a game mode you can like but we are tired of everyone saying it NEEEEEDS IT or halo infinite will die, forgetting like every game thats come out without a battle royale
As someone who’s played Halo since CE, and pulled many all nighters playing H2 online, I have to say 343 knocked it out of the park with Infinite. The game does justice to the heritage of halo, and for the first time, has the vibe Bungie created way back when. All of your views and criticisms were on point for this topic AM.
Then why is no one playing Halo anymore after a few weeks? The streamers where right. The player base has crashed. It's not even a top 20 game on twitch anymore
@@jarman395 Yeah I watched it and the streamers were correct. Halo infinite is dead and irrelevant after only a few weeks. Since it's a new game and it's not in the top 20 on twitch. The peak player base has dramatically decreased. Those are 2 very bad things for a new game. On twitch it's behind Apex, Warzone, Fortnite, even destiny 2. How in the world are less people watching Halo infinite then a old ass destiny 2? That's pathetic!
@@HARLEM-NEWYORK he literally says in the video you can't base game popularity off twitch top games. Twitch average viewer base is so much smaller than the 2 billion of TH-cam. I believe he said it's like 200k. So what is that 1/10th??? TH-cam has so much Halo infinite content rn. You say you watched the videos but you just watched the Doc and Tim clips got butthurt and didn't hear anything else.
@@jarman395 My point is Act man is wrong. The streamers were right. Twitch viewership shows the popularity of a game compared to other games. Explain to me why Halo has less viewers then Destiny 2, Warzone, Apex, etc... Explain to me why the peak player base has fallen so much since launch? It's current player numbers are close to battlefield 2042 which is also a dead game. There's something wrong with Halo. Everyone loved Halo when it first came out but it can't be a good game if no one is still playing it or watching it after a month
As Russian Badger had said about reach: it’s amazing that everyone has the same weapons and can pick up the same weapons. Unlike most games nowadays where you have to be able to customize your gun to the max.
That’s the beauty of arena shooters man. Yeah some guns may be better but ultimately you can make ALL of the weapons work depending on how you play mechanically, there won’t be guns that everyone is using like in COD
@@moonmanthemenace7339 that's the beauty. Once I get the battle rifle, oooo those kills are going to like up. But every other gun is usable, except the ravager lol
THIS. Most of the big IP fps games nowadays seems to having crack with customization thingy (apart from halo of course). You got COD Vanguard that has big excuse to go back to classic cod (1-3, world at war to an extend) but no, they rather choose to made them as "big warzone DLC". Bf2042 has too much costumization that it become something other than battlefield.
I guess the whole thing with Halo is, that it's more than just a game. The Lore is immense. The games are just once piece of the story. Literally and figuratively.
Don't forget the legacy, after I watched a video of a guy that was so excited because this Halo will be on Zeta Halo, his excitement got me and now I'm playing the other games just to catch up with the lore. XD
its is a bit like saying Mass effect or Dragon age need multiplayer, they had multiplayer and I was a big fan of what they did with it BUT the removal of multiplayer didnt stop anyone getting ME:LE or hyped over DA4 because the core of the game is the world and the lore. The core of Halo is the World and the gameplay BR of not that will be what makes people play it
I've been told I messed up and the "Dr Lupo" I was referring to is actually Zlaner. Just thought I'd point that out. I didn't see that guys name in the lobby they were in lol
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Acting Male will you be streaming the campaign at launch?
Halo infinite doesn’t need Battle Royale in general my opinion because they might shaft the main game like warzone did with the last 2 cods and probably vanguard
ok man comparing making formulaic content out of fear of branching out to Gwyn repeatedly linking the fire hit a little too close to home. Maybe it's time I embrace the dark.
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Hey tier zoo, do you have any leaks about the new updates which will be coming in 2022, i heard they are planning an alien invasion in the next patch
You might allready have with your latest video on snakes
One question, are grunts TOO OP?!
My favorite quote is one by one of the developers. “The only BR we are interested in is the Battle Rifle”.
I love people with conviction. Beatiful.
@@midweekcentaur1050 same"
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That battle rifle went so hard. For the first week. Haven't gotten a kill with it since and idk why lmao. Tell ya what though, the only thing bigger than the SR7 is my dick when I'm using the SR7.
That's why I installed and uninstalled the game right away. Thank God it was free.
Asking a BR-centric streamer their opinion on a game that doesn’t have a BR mode is like asking a lion its opinion on a gazelle sanctuary. PROBABLY not the most objective take you’re gonna get.
Hur dur, Squad is trash because there's not BR mode. Pick any game that's unique at all anymore and people want to turn it into battle royale, dumbed down "rpg", or an action adventure open world mess.
I dont see how anyone can take warzone streamers serious
these losers are to scared to play something else because they are scared they be forgotten, but most people watch them not for the game but the personality, they need relies that to have less sleepless nights
BR is a Halo weapon, release in Halo 2; why yours talk about to free fire parody games?
@@worldfamousgi86 hurr durr Squad is shit, Insurgency is shit, Rising Storm is shit, R6 is bad
Hurr durr thei dun have brrrrre
Watchng this in 2024 is so conflicting 😭 . Everybodys statements aged so poorly and well all at the same time
Holy shit yes. I haven’t even gotten into the video yet because I’m looking at all the comments. It’s exactly like you said, everyone is both correct and incorrect
@@XAV-117 Yes but the damage is done and the SBMM is driving people away I've heard from a bunch of the playerbase
Call of duty is so bad. It’s BR mode can stay with the cod sweats and with the cod streamers who spend hours and hours on their game streaming every day on one game losing their sanity and making it seem like halo needs a BR mode. It does not need a BR mode. We got too many damn BRS already. Halo doesn’t need one. Those who say otherwise are heretics. And they must be silenced.
At the time of this comment, Dr. D plays more Halo Infinite than COD BR. Fact.
The player count is poor. It's the problem Halo has had for about10 years as it plays too much like other shooters to carve out its own large and unique fanbase. It needs to go back to its arena shooter/slower movement roots with all its changes being to the environment and sandbox. Nowadays Halo, CoD and Battlefield are mostly just slide sprinting and bunny hopping around corners with colorful guns and immersion breaking skins.
“Without a BR mode, Halo Infinite will die in three weeks”
*looks at success of 20 year long running franchise*
Are you sure about that?
Again they are only talking about viewership not the overall success of the game. Are you all deaf??
@@DB-co8vx umm excuse me. Are you deaf. Dr disrespect said it himself this game won't live until 3 weeks.
@@DB-co8vx Streaming viewership has never, NEVER been important for Halo. TH-cam is the biggest platform for Halo views.
This trend is complete bullsh*t, BR is so flawed as a formula because no matter what you do RNG always catches up to you. BR needs to die or be revamped, mark my words.
@hweirdo amen brother
“It’s not Halo Infinite that won’t survive without a battle royale... it’s you”. Perfectly encapsulates your entire point 🥂
I swear that line sent such a shock
@@fettycheese2498 Gave me chills when he said it tbh. There were so many mic drop moments in this video and he was so eloquently precise in how he addressed the whole situation
A line so good you’d think it was from Halo 2.
@@TheLastArbiter “Chief, it’s not you that won’t survive without a weapon... it’s the covenant”
Is Battle Royale even relevant anymore?
“The last fucking thing i want halo infinite to do is go out of its way to cater to an audience that are not its core fans” I couldn’t have said it better myself act man.
Infinite is cartering to non fans imo
@@deleteduser3455 i disagree. I think they made a MP that is as close to what the fans want as they possibly could. They obviously cant just keep remaking halo 2/3. There is always going to be additions. And dont even bring up “SPRINT”. Sprint is inevitable. Every game now has a sprint mechanic. But they brought back the golden triangle as best they could with infinite. It is halo at its core. The battlepass is a different story. Im not too happy that they locked customization behind the BP. but its free to play. So either you get free customization or a well populated game with a thriving community. And ill take the community any day
@@Patbd2552 yup, as a returning player, I stopped after after the Halo 4 and 5 disappointment...
Halo Infinite feels great to play, I've played every day since the beta released.
@@xLionsxxSmithyx same I quit after I played 4&5 played each for about a week each and I was hoping halo infinite would be good and so far so good I’m actually having fun playing
that's what battlefield tried and failed
I dont get why everyones saying it needs a br? I mean, there already is one, its one of the best guns in the game. It's a classic, I mean that 3 shot burst, that heavy damage, those easy headshot kills, the combination of precision, stopping power, speed, versatility, I mean it's just gorgeous.
Well spoken
Right 😂 every shooter has a battle rifle duhhhh
It’s so clear now
LMAOO
Not gonna lie they had us in the first half
The Halo community when they heard Dr. Disrespects opinion
“There can be no greater heresy!”
I HATE people that HATE other people. The comment I respond to did not spread HATE. That is good. BUT! I get a lot of HATE comments on my amazing videos and I HATE it. Please don't start spreading HATE. Do I have to HATE you too, dear ru
@@AxxLAfriku dude jeez, calm your tits!
@@AxxLAfriku I am gonna post a HATE comment on your videos!
343 likes now XD
@@autistichades5552 Not anymore.
*Patrollong the Mojave almost makes you wish Halo Infinite to just have a good campaign over everything else*
Thank you for your service NCR Trooper
YOOO amen :)
Hello again
Fallout community 🤝 halo community
The king returns
If they want Battle Royale so badly, build one in forge mode.
6 months from now... I still already love infinite but your point is kind of void
He literally addressed that in the video so why comment this?
@@20P4U I wrote it one minute into the video.
Already happened lmfao
DrDisrespect said something about the effect of streaming on the gaming space, I think it absolutely fucking ruined so much in gaming.
I hate it. It’s now all about sponsors and viewership and competitive bs instead of just playing freaking video games lol.
@@frankm6546 yeah remember when games were fun?
i was on a tf2 2fort map on team fortress 2 (tf2) and basically we were all having a (im ganna butcher this but im keeping it anyway) karayotsy kick dance party then a streamer joined promising free hats if you kill him in a certain way. everbody on his team (including me) basically had nothing to do because the entire enemy team was focused on him
totally killed the joy out of it
@@greatlyreducedgameplay9939 "yeah remember when games were fun?" Remember when people couldn't make playing video games their job?
I keep getting confused whenever people talk about BRs in Halo Infinite, and I'm like "Yeah, if theres no Battle Rifle in Halo Infinite i imagine people will be upset"
Lol that’s what I thought
I find your humor very comedic thank you for making me exhale out of my nose strongly, hope infinites going good for you
@@SirLeadbeater I find your witty reply humorous, as well as the original comment, and have found myself exhaling in amusement
Same
I was confused for a minute 😂
@@Crxw2Tired you are speaking like a proper gentlemen good sir.
To be honest, I'm tired of BR games.
me to also I am really bad at them and I can't respawn
@@mr_jimmmmmmm I understand there was a unlimited respawn objective game mode in warzone and I love that but they removed it and I haven't got much extensive to really play the Battle Royale cuz I'll just die
youre not the only one
Same
Honestly I played Fortnite for about a year and a half and then got bored of it. Honestly don't find any other BR improves that to me as the main thing I didn't like was wasting time walking across empty planes just running for safety until you hear a single shot from behind. Plus always found RNG spawns to more just piss me off.
Thebattle royale market is so beyond oversaturated at this point, its actually refreshing for me to see that one of my favorite franchises is not getting sucked into that black hole.
The only BR i liked was fortnite in its first month.. because i never played a BR before
Not yet
I’m glad they are making a br yet.
Am I the only one who prefers multiplayer than battle royal.
I thought Battle Royal would have died by now but I'm disappointed that it's still going. But Battle Royal credit goes to Arma
so about dr disrespect...
Yeaa…
Lol
So herecy wasn't the only thing to worry about....
At 2:04 just sounds like him talking about his preferred age range
@@happyjam92Heresy*
"This game needs a BR to survive" translation: "This game needs a BR for me to make money streaming it".
Yup, exactly
And there's nothing wrong with that . Their a business and selling a product.
@@HCUhardcoreUnited they can do what they please and there is nothing wrong with that, but in this current internet landscape your platform can gain a massive amount of popularity and decline in under two years. By having a severe passion for what you do instead of just trying to make profit you can establish a loyal audience.
@@submonger7500 Agreed. That's why it's important to make a smart move to increase your business and enjoy your work while your at it.
The only thing am annoyed at is how much sway streamers/content people have. They have large following sure, but you don't speak for us.
My very first thought
"In order to stay relevant for 3 weeks, this game needs a br"
No dude, I think YOU need a br to stay relevant.
💯
TRUE
Goddamn dude
I mean it does, the Battle Rifle.
Ohhh
I've never understood the obsession with battle royale. If I wanted to feel like my space was constantly being encroached on I could just move to my mother in law's house.
They’re fun, you should try them sometime. I still prefer traditional multiplayer, but the mode is still entertaining.
The idea is cool but the problem is that most br games don't do anything interesting with the concept. Im indifferent towards Fortnite but at least that game did something unique with the building mechanics.
When br dies I can die happily
I like BR modes but the things that kills me is a lot BR is the main focus for the game. Usually the BR isn't great and the rest of the modes suffered also.
Idk i like them its more satisfying to win a br in warzone than any multiplayer especially if you are fragging out
The hindsight here is hilarious. I could not fathom how awful a 343 managed Battle Royale would be given Infinite's current status as a tombstone carried by ants
That intro has me in tears, legendary
Ayo is the real Mints Blitz!
Another Halo god!
Yeah tears.
I just got off your channel watching the “ journalist play halo “ 😂😂
It was perfect
Well said: “They want a battle royale for the wrong reason.”
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO OBSSESSED IN BATTLE ROYALE?
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@Rara-----🕊️ no horny
People always say: "Halo infinite needs a Battle Royale!"
They do realize that they can make their own battle royale in custom games. Right?
That involves too much effort for them to win. They needs something for their small attention spans.
@@pheonix8167 what in the goddamn are you even talking about
@@pheonix8167 dude forge exists
Reach hunger games
Am say act man say he make look bad he true but try to not want the heat xd
This is one of the most well put together and rationally explained videos on this subject. This guy really knows how to take an unbiased position and lay down the facts while not attacking those he doesn’t 100% agree with. Mad respect, had to subscribe
Eyyy thanks for subbing! Hope you enjoy the channel!
hows the game doing btw? #thingsthatagedpoorly
@@elitemanning_2-0 it died since it has no content less content then halo 5. If it had the same content like halo 3 or halo reach that came out more then a decade ago this game would be great.
@@elitemanning_2-0 i mean cod vanguard died and it had a br so
@@marianomaza8941 Vanguard didn't have a br that's just warzone mw had it not vanguard p
“Metal Gear Survive absolutely needs a Battle Royale” is the funniest headline I’ve ever read.
And honestly, it would prob do the game some good lol. Well, as long as it was actually well made
@@Walamonga1313 you know for a face it wont be well made
I'm sorry, what?
@@Walamonga1313 Just imagine a Multi-player game with MGS5 gameplay. That would be fucking amazing.
That's some funny shit. Also Survive doesn't need battle royale, instead it needs to NOT EXIST.
To quote 343: the only BR we care about is the battle rifle
Until Microsoft says “hey make a free to play BR” just like Microsoft said “hey delay this game and make it better”
@just do it cool
@@DB-co8vx God I hope so
@@DB-co8vx I’m sure they will make the right decision and do what the fans want since they’re obviously listening to the fans in the delaying.
This games set up to be killer.
@@thechristfollower1723 clearly they’re listening to the fans you idiot. Have you seen the campaign overview? The multiplayer overview? The flights? They are listening to the community.
"Halo needs a br to survive"
Translation: *My pre-mature audience only watches br streams so I need halo to have a br to make sure I eat tonight*
LOL
Lmao
lmao
Yo man you misspelled make 10k an hr with make sure I eat tonight.
@@phelomangcu11 Streamers make that much?
I appreciate streaming but I feel streaming has destroyed game integrity and most gamers get left out cause developers wanna cater to the few. GREAT VIDEO
As someone who plays Tarkov, I highly agree with you.
“God I hate COD so much I wish I had something new to play”
“Why is this new game not exactly like COD”
You didn't get the point. They want it to be like cod without it being cod, comprende?
@@AlphaOmegon Then just play cod tf lmao
@@nicholasc3694 I think, I hope, I pray he was being sarcastic
@@Swells-lv3uz he was, people are just slow.
@@nicholasc3694 reading is hard huh
“This game needs a battleroyale in order to survive”
Alternatively: “I need this game to have a BR so my channel will survive”
@Molecule Mind some streamers are cool but I don’t see what is so interesting about dr disrespect
@@eddi3401 people like disrespect because he’s has big mouth. These streamers are so entitled.
He can make one using forge.
Although that requires using braincells, which, I'm afraid are in short supply in doctor disrespect head.
True and it's like those people have never seen or played a popular game that doesn't have a BR mode
Most correct comment.
I’d kill to play some Halo with this man once Infinite comes out
i mean billy, youre verified, you can easily get him to play with you
I'll warn his friends
Already have
Yeah he use to be a halo tuber
606th 5th
2:04 Doc was seeing that age range cause he was hoping itd give him some new victims
"Comparison is the thief of joy." That was the realist thing I've read.
“When the is game launches viewership isn’t gonna be good”
If i were a dev I’d sure hope so, I’d rather people be PLAYING the game
I’m pretty sure any developer is going to prefer player counts to viewer counts
Nail on the head right there
Underrated comment
Even The Act Man is less right than this comment right here.
You never miss my friend
I'm like Chief with the bomb in Halo 2 baby. 😎
@@TheActMan
Sir, permission to leave this community, for what purpose, the Act Man? To give the outsiders back their criticism.
@@jackcolson4745 damn for a guy with balls of steel he flew pretty hard
New World enters the chat. 😜
@@GHOSTOFEIGHT Ayo wtf I thought you were gone 😂
I feel like co-op campaign would be waaaaay better than a battle royale.
That and forge also firefight
it is. do you still play infinite? its a great game
@@totalygamingtemplar no. But I am going back to play it. I hate how it has such untapped potential, like imagine if the story and the set pieces were on par with the gameplay
@RockLeeSolosDBZ i have never payed for any cosmetics in infinite. i got the campaign through gamepass and find skins in the campaign
@@moreliquorinmycoffee i love the story
"The game will die without a BR"
Are coded words for "I won't be able to make money off this game without a BR"
this. streamers know BRs cater to the lowest common denominator (their viewers) so they bitch about it not having one.
They can though.
Exactly Kyle. BR is a CANCER in gaming if we talk about coop or single player modes.
@@JohnFromAccounting they can for sure, but that requires more work than just going for the safe option
its worse than that is "you guys wont watch this because you view me as a BR only streamer so i am trapped because I need your approval to enjoy my life"
Fun fact for dr disrespect, halo isn’t a game made by 3 people with no ways of advertising
OK but after just a while no big streamer is gonna play halo and nobody else is gonna watch it
@@mullahgaming9446 who asked
@Trade Bum Simmons yeah because he only make the big bucks with the brs
@Trade Bum Simmons Nobody knew TimtheTatman before BR and Ninja and Shroud, basically every big name game streamer you know were nobodies before BR.
@@mullahgaming9446 Who give a singular fuck? Has 100% nothing to do with the quality of a game.
"Im so proud of this community" 😢
Hello there.
Glad to be part of it
@just do it No.
@John Alden what?
Oh hey airsoft alfonse! Love your videos man!
"This game is not going away in 3 weeks" oh what a sad turn of events
Didnt die cuz a battle royal it died cuz not content
@@Bloodfangmh ok i diden't say that
@@DimLightO ik im jist saying that because doc sayed it will die without a br
@@Bloodfangmh battle royale is a form of content. Just look at what warzones done for Cod. You dont have go play it if you arent a fan, but its good to have the option
@@armandor887 Cod isn't exactly doing very well right now
Halo to me has always been about Chief. His journey, his life, his story.
It's always been the campaign.
Agree!!!
@LaffeyBestShipfu yikes
Same. Although I'll probably play multiplayer a bit more now with infinite
Also, who gives a fuck if infinite never even has a BR? Every other game has it, just play one of those. Focus on the rest of the game
Halo has always been about campaign...because my parents were never gonna pay for Xbox subscription lmao
I replayed Halo MCC recently. Haven’t played a Halo game since 2. They gave interesting and original stories for a FPS. I couldn’t care less for a BR.
Streamers: “don’t you want a BR mode in Halo?”
Me: “Yeah! I would love a Battle Rifle only mode!”
@LaffeyBestShipfu Great mode! Can't get enough!
BR SWAT in Halo 5 is probably the most competitive since the projectiles are so precise. Watching the shots from you BR go in a 100% straight line is so satisfying.
I saw comments abt Halo and BR and this was all i thought till i remembered it’s 2021
thats pretty much the entirety of halo 2 and 3 lmao
I love you for that comment
That outro was so good, great video man
Y.O.L.O love you man!💯🤙🏽
Commander Cortez saids the outro was immaculate
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If you stream halo ill definitely watch you,love your content
C.O. Ok_Jared reporting for duty
Cool video. Never mind the fact that they were 50% right. The game is now pretty much dead, although it's not because of the lack of a BR. It's because of a lack of content. Could have been a great successor to the arena shooter we all love, but it turned into nothing.
Fanboys wont admit this..
@@cheporestrepo literally everybody is admitting this, what fucking planet are you on? Stop making up people to be mad at
@@cheporestrepo facts
Hey buddy yeah I admit first launch was very lacking in content and games should be complete upon release (looking at you COD and Battlefield) But the core gameplay in Infinite makes it the replay value sooo good. Especially if you have a squad of buddies to jump on with. Halo Infinite has enough content right now to keep it fun to play over and over again. What's more 343 is activity listening to the community and updating to our feedback which is something than cannot be said about EA or Epic Games. With Forge, new maps and modes, co-op campaign and new season launching soon Infinite will have everything it should have had at launch and more. I agree 343 should have given us more on release and they get some points taken away for that but they have done and incredible job with everything already included and they are actively responding to our feedback and giving us the content we want. TO imply that Halo is dead is just kinda stupid. The game is wildly popular and people need to stop saying everything needs a BR mode, turn their misty eyes away from COD and realize Halo has so much more to offer. COD isn't bad, I love warzone and MW, but the last two games have seriously sucked and Halo is a way more consistent series. With the exception of Halo 5 of course.
@@alexyeager4933 by this point cod sucks but is still superior in gameplay, response times and even graphics… than halo infinite, and about battlefield.. oh well we dont need to talk about that
you really couldn't resist slappin the bridge clip in there, could ya?
My thoughts exactly 😂😂
It never gets old
HAHAHAHAHA
Lol based
Laughed so hard when it came up 💀
"Without BR this game dies in 3 weeks"
343 : Understood...
*Battle Rifle only mode*
Sign me up for that
for sure, I hated how halo 5 didn't really have a dedicated BR playlist.
Swat is my favorite
BR SWAT
Rocket Race inbound
What was said.
"in order for this game to succeed, it needs a BR!"
Translation.
"In order for me to milk this game to my viewers and make Money, it needs a BR!"
No, Doc. No it doesn't.
Is that...a scandroid pfp?
4:07 Hahaha that part killed them all.
Pls dont let these immature kids ruin Halo with a BR mode. There are actually people on this planet that aren't hyperactive energy drink addicts that have nothing else to offer than a highly competitive high adrenaline junky mode with no real progression. These soulless short living sheep's don't even see the fact that they are destroying the gaming industry with the demand of one and the same game mode over and over again. Fu these people from the deepest part of my heart really. Screw 'em. When the clueless people want to decide, it is then, when it gets really dangerous.
We are at a point that it is more important how many people are watching the game intead of playing it!
@@ancientengraving7757 it's a shame.
He will get owned or be below average which will cause him to lose viewers.
I LOVE the constant balance you show ripping into the streamers while giving respect at the same time. God bless you act Man. You brilliant, beautiful man.
"343 are not following the trends, they are making a god damn Halo"
My favorite quote from the acting male
Just like Bungie back then. They did whatever the heck they wanted to instead of following trends. Good job 343
Good paradigm shift from 343 chasing trends in their previous games
The performing homo sapiens sapiens
They're definitely following trends, all of it
They are following trends, wtf are you talking about?
I don't get why people try and measure a game's success based on it's views on Twitch. It's absolutely ridiculous, Twitch viewers are a very small minority of the whole gaming community.
Yea for real. Games sell millions and there’s a couple hundred thousand viewers on one game. It’s like less than 5% of the player base watching. It makes no sense.
For sure. I don't think I've watched more than 30min of content on twitch
Even if it was, views wouldn’t be a good way to ultimately judge a game’s success. Some games are successful and fun, but just don’t work well as entertainment for a live stream scenario
Look at Skyrim and the Witcher 3! They don’t have multiplayer modes AT ALL, have basically NO viewers on Twitch and yet they still sell copies and are still getting released on new platforms YEARS after release due to popular demand. Games don’t need streaming views to be successful.
@@eight35x20 Seems like a mp/live service phenomenon for bro gamers and easily distracted kids honestly lol
Doom games barely have a multiplayer, and hell, Doomguy is literally back to being a gaming icon of our time
yeah, doom had the high octane fast paced gameplay and good level design, arena multiplayer came from quake
Doomguy will always be a gaming icon no matter what, he's the Mario of FPS games
@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan yeah, the very, very angry Mario of FPS lol
doom eternal was a let down to be honest - I want another duke Nukem game.
@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan If mario was fueled by rage and fury instead of pasta and pizza
I know this comment is super late, but...
Having played Halo since it's release in 2001, I can genuinely say that I would love a Halo BR. Do I think it needs it, no... But I think it would be fun, assuming it's made the right way. While I still enjoy playing Fortnite, and I had a good time with both Apex and Warzone, I think those games are too far away from what a Halo BR *needs* to be. Honestly I believe that a Halo BR just needs to be more Halo but just on a larger scale. No having to pick up shields, no additional armor, no different attachments for weapons or awkward interfaces. Just drop us onto Zeta Halo with Banished and UNSC weapons scattered around the map, like it would be in multiplayer, and let us find them, pick them up, and fucking shoot each other. They can even take a page out of Blackout's book and utilize past and current maps in the landscape. Can you imagine playing Halo with 99 other people? 25 squads of 4 just duking it out on the biggest, most open, most beautiful Halo map we've ever seen? The fact of the matter is that all the stuff for a BR in Halo is already there. Infinite introduced a bunch of different equipment, and you can even bring back some of the older ones from past games, especially for maneuverability (looking at you Jetpack and Grav Lift). Imagine coming up on someone from behind just for them to bubble shield you... Imagine grapple hooking onto a tree or building and lobbing a Plasma onto an enemy player from 50 yards away! And then, oh this is great! And then, sharing it with people through some sort of file... share... wait. Facebook. Anyway, the map could be designed for the different movement options in mind, and you could have intense battles that last on multiple layers of engagement. Infinite also introduced variations on different weapons. Hell, you could even acquire them the same way you did in the campaign: hunting down a high value target. Implement a sort of PVPVE. Side note: I can't believe those weapons aren't currently available for use in the actual multiplayer. The overall point here is that a Halo BR doesn't have to be fancy, or even *new*... It just needs to be Halo. And the reason I hope it never exists is because the developers will never understand that..
Dear god this video was awesome, the last part gave me chills
Same here dude. I felt the exact same way.
Love your destiny stuff my guy
If Bungo randomly drops a BR mode for D2 I think I would have an involuntary protein spill.
Me too. Glad I wasn’t alone. The music really took it over the top.
Didn't expect to find you here, man!
"It's not about the battle royale, it's about sending a message."
- someone based IDK
Me? Lol
it's about THE METS BABY
Battle Royal is garbage and I love that these same streamers rely on 10 year olds with their mommy's credit card watching them play Battle Royal. The hypocrisy is staggering.
Tell me something good with battle royale and thats not boring, i will wait
*Lights money on fire.
"Halo Infinite needs a BR"
It already has a BR! The Battle Rifle!
and thats the only BR it needs
I was in the side of not wanting a Battle Royal, but if I had to pick between not having Battle Royal and not having the the Battle Rifle I'd pick not having the Battle Rifle.
@@autobotskyflame6287 heretic
@@autobotskyflame6287 Blasphemer.
@@autobotskyflame6287 and so you must be silenced
I’m glad everyone’s coming back to this and pointing out how Dr Disrespect was saying the age demographic for the game, it’s not actually the demographic, it’s just what’s always on his mind.
In 2021, *not* having a BR is what sets you apart from the rest of the shooters on the market.
100% agree with ActMan here, and I appreciate the fact that none of the shade thrown in the video was in a mean spirited way.
I honestly don't know how he didn't throw shade. The shit they said made me so mad, fake fans
@James Lewis Dela Cruz Act Man handled it way better than most of us ever would, that's pretty much a fact.
4:07 Hahaha that part killed them all.
Pls dont let these immature kids ruin Halo with a BR mode. There are actually people on this planet that aren't hyperactive energy drink addicts that have nothing else to offer than a highly competitive high adrenaline junky mode with no real progression. These soulless short living sheep's don't even see the fact that they are destroying the gaming industry with the demand of one and the same game mode over and over again. Fu these people from the deepest part of my heart really. Screw 'em. When the clueless people want to decide, it is then, when it gets really dangerous.
The Act man just Fucking fried these dudes in the most beautiful way. His whole argument make so much damn sense! Halo all day!!!!!
He made more sense than when he sold out for amazon.
@@isla2202 🤦♂️what
@@ki11atj49 I said ... he made more sense than when he sold out to amazon.
I say again yes?
@@isla2202 he has some hit and miss here and there.
@@isla2202 what
“What these streamers are really saying is that they can’t sell their viewers on a game if it doesn’t have a different version of the same shit they’ve been exclusively playing for the past 3-5 years.” Nailed it.
Yet Halo MP is the "same shit" since the inception of Halo..Ironic.
@@loki76 It really isn't, but go ahead and play, what? Warzone? Any Cod game as a matter of fact? Fortnite? what games series or long-running games exist nowadays that aren't the "same shit"?
FIFA
FORZA
Cod
Fortnite
Battlefield (2042 could change this)
Basically any game in a series or getting constant updates is the " same shit"
@@loki76 Yeah, you don't know a damn thing lmao. Go ahead, fire up any Halo, then either backtrack one or two games. See how far that gets you.
@@loki76 Thats some delicious bait.
@@loki76 that's what people want. Not new stuff persay, just a continuation of the old.
Turns out Doc probably wanted this game to have a Battle Royale so he could get into contact with more children
After what happened to his Twitch ban, that's definitely it.
Honestly streaming culture kills gaming for me sometimes.
"Turn all our games into jobs please, thanks".
Me too. It's like everyone is more focused on an individual or individuals playing a game rather than enjoying it themselves or with their buddies. That's what halo was all about, a shooter with a high skill ceiling but your obnoxious little brother could still have fun with you and your friends. These streamers are irrelevant, just have fun with the game.
@@cheefusthywiggy I have COD Cold War, haven't played it yet and now it's dead. Multiplayer only is a real problem imo
Agreed
This
“We’ve waited on Halo Infinite for 6 years. It’s not going away in 3 weeks.”
- The Act Man
Hell, yeah!!!
Flashbacks to Cyberpunk
@@Ineedgames Battlefield Moment right there lel
Halo lives up to the hype lol
People waited 3 years for halo 5 and we all know what happen to that game.
@@billyaguilar1192 yeah that game is still played to this day ( 800- 2k population) even though losing support In 2017 and having such a bad reputation.
The only Halo "BR" mode I would want to see is ODST. Drop from orbit with your squad of 4-5 players and move in on a target in the center of the map
That shit would be dope thkigh
I could get down wit that
I think extraction royale(ie:Escape from Tarkov, BF2042 Hazard Zone) would fit that setting perfectly
That sounds fun as hell
Took me way too long to realize BR stood for battle royale, not battle rifle
Really sucks that 343 dropped the ball and gave streamers another reason to push the br thing.
"Multiplayer Arena Shooters are just dated at this point."
Isn't a BR like an Arena Shooter but on a bigger scale and no respawns?
Basically, but some people are blind
I mean, yeah, but those are exactly the defining traits of the genre lol. It's like if somebody said "Racing sims are outdated at this point" and then you'd go "Yeah, but Mario Kart is doing fine, and aren't racing sims the same thing, just way more realistic and with no items?"
(Not saying that I agree with either of those genres being outdated btw)
@@Howitchewstofeel5gum Yeah you're right. And you really put it in a pretty good perspective for me since I am a racing sim sorta guy. Honestly I just wanted to ridicule the guy who said that. Since he's obviously pretty clueless.
In a nutshell it's just Free for all renamed..
no. it isnt. unless you want to say all FPS are all arena shooters just cus you have guns and you're shooting stuff.
If they want a BR; just have people good at making forge maps make “Hunger Games” like in reach. Literally the funnest moments I’ve ever had on forge workd
Damn youre right. Thats the point of forge. I love forge.
Good thing it won't be out until a year from now
Yeah there were loads of FFA forge maps all the way back in Halo 3, i'm reaallllly looking forward to see what people craft in Infinite
I played a Reach map in the custom games browser on Forge World that used the entire map (As it's the biggest one ever created) and it was a FFA battle royal game type. It seems like it'd be fun but it got boring fast, especially since the shield recharge rate was longer and shields were weaker to help out with the balancing. I just don't get why some people obsess over BR modes. When I play Warzone with CoD, every match is usually the same thing where all players always go to the exact same location, despite having such a huge map to explore and to ambush people. It also doesn't help that everyone has armor in that BR game so it creates a weapon meta that you have to use to actually compete with even the most basic players. I couldn't see it working with Halo with the balancing of weapons and vehicles, as if you came across a team of 2 or more guys and you have a Plasma Rifle or SMG and they have Battle Rifles, you'll be screwed
BRs are overcooked, I want more Tarkov-like Survival shooters. Like imagine being an ODST dropped into an insurgent planet and it is pure anarchy
Dr. Disrespect talking about seeing it for ages 11, 12, 13, 14, but that he cannot see anything above that... that aged well given what he has been involved in~
"When this game launches, viewership is not going to be good" There you go. That is exactly what these streamers are focused on - views - not the actual game itself or the game's playerbase.
Agreed 100%. Even i Will go deeper to say the only thing they like is MONEY.
They have no concept that their viewership won't be good because people might actually be playing the game instead of watching them play.
@@deepwinter4263 exactly. You nailed It.
It's the same reason why Modern Warfare seems like nobody plays it because all the streamers just play Warzone because it's free to play. The streamers are just looking for the next big BR game to jump on to boost their revenue, meanwhile players will still be playing Infinite even if there's never a BR
@@deepwinter4263 at the same time though sandbox arena shooters are kinda dull. Like Titanfall 2 genuinely has the best gameplay of any shooter in the last 10 or so years and yet that game is dead dead.
The idea that a Halo games multiplayer needs a BR to bump up its numbers is goddamned insane. It's pretty clear these streamers are terrified that Halo will actually take viewers away from their BR garbage.
Yup 100% bro Halo has always been different and original Not the same thing over and over again
I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s because they are terrified of viewers dismissing or looking away from their particular brand, I just think that from a streaming perspective, they know that Halo is a big title, it has popular brands, and big money behind it through Microsoft, and so they see it this; if Halo can uphold a particular audience that juxtaposes w high viewership for those streamers than they want to maximize that outcome which in their eyes are BR’s. Now I disagree w that incentive, but I don’t think that it’s because they are afraid that Halo will be successful to a point that it will bring viewers away from their BR brand. I mean if it’s popular as an arena type shooter than those streamers will gravitate to that type of shooter because it makes them money. They just see that arena type shooters will not give them that viewership that they believe they would have if there was a BR.
Yes, that's exactly how it came off, as BR is the best way to get people with a form of ADD to keep watching these quick matches that most people barely even pay attention to as they're all typing furiously in chat desperately trying to be funny, and get attention.
Completely agree. Anybody who isn't playing this on release is probably going to be watching whoever is playing it. And let's be real, for all the complaining these guys are doing they're going to be playing and streaming it as well. Who are they kidding?
And it's about goddamn time. I've hated BR ever since it came out with PUBG and Fortnite. I never thought CoD would stoop as low as to include a shitty BR mode, but I guess they'll do anything for that cash flow.
*Me playing Skyrim* : “Just look at these vistas…needs a battle royal”.
don't give bethesda any bright ideas for elder scrolls 6
@@t3hgraemek oh god
I laughed more than I should
@@t3hgraemek they saw how badly it did in 76, they wouldn’t do it again
Me playing dark souls: Screeching in agony
Omg I loved that quote “we’ve been waiting for a new halo for six years it’s not going away in three weeks”
True. Was more like 6 weeks. Then it died…
@@GrindEndeavorshey it’s starting to come back to life, it only took like 2 years… but it’s finally starting to get to a really good point
Long gone are the days were people would play games just to have fun. Everyone is trying to become the next big streamer, everyone is trying to bump or maintain their numbers. Halo doesn't need a BR to be successful, YOU need a BR to be successful.
Yhh thats what sucks, especially when games bend over backwards to cater to the pros and the streamers instead of the players, case in point rainbow six siege.
@@ch4z_bucks Even pros and streamers are fed up with Siege and Ubisoft, some of the patches in recent months has been fukin weird as hell
@@ArchieGamez true but I mean when I see changes like: house rework, night maps being removed, other reworks with less points of entry to make firefights easier to predict I feel like these are things only the pro community wants, they may hate some of Ubisoft's changes but that pales in comparison to the number of changes they have made for pros at the detriment of the original vision of the game and the gameplay desired by the fans of the early days, when siege wasn't big in the pro scene and thus still cared more about the players.
And all the companies are ruled by shareholders and money, not the ones passionate about gaming. Thank Capitalism Bud.
@@geilertobi231 I don't think it's necessarily the fault of capitalism, after all fans can bring in more money, take a look at games like gta, hitman, battlefield, these games aren't really prevalent if at all present in the pro scene yet rake in tons of cash. I think the problem is that they think what they are doing is the best method to make money when it is not, capitalism is great for games because it will encourage companies to make the most money which generally means trying to appeal to fans, siege and similar games are in a position where they are making money, just not as much as they could be if they did what the fans want.
Favyn’s video “why Halo will fail if it follows trends” is beautiful and everyone should watch it if they haven’t already.
Link?
@@jayjay1343 like, look up the title
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An example of why (generally) TH-camrs have better gaming opinions than streamers. They take their time when they form opinions where streamers don't. Look how stupid Disrespect sounds shooting from the hip with what he thinks about Halo Infinite. In one breath he claims to love Halo yet fundamentally misunderstands how chasing the tired trend of BR would only hurt Halo. When someone says they don't play the campaign of a game they're already suss in my mind. Nothing wrong with liking multiplayer but when you can't even watch a single player trailer without bringing up BR....
Thank God for Favyn and Act Man. Its a damn shame that devs put so much weight behind streamer opinions that are based purely in crap that doesn't apply to a normal player experience like viewership.
Umm, it's already a following a trend. Every single player triple A game is nowadays is trying to become a sandbox and Halo is following that trend. The only issue is if it will differentiate itself from the blandness that plagues other games.
Lmao my guy put the pewdiepie bridge clip 💀
And what a journey it turned out to be for pewds...
Ikr hahahaha
I lol'd when I saw that
Pewdiepie did nothing wrong
the "gamer" word incident
ironic looking back at this considering the state of halo infinite
They are fucking up, idk if it completely because they didn’t release a BR. They’ve been fucking up all over lol
343 industries is the weirdest company I’ve ever seen in the industry
@@buttlerubbies747 BR would've helped
@@rinkashikachi yeah but not by much considering the lack of content. the mismanagement is what killed halo infinite, not the lack of BR
It’s funny looking back at this comment considering the state of halo infinite now lmao
"Halo Infinite won't last 3 weeks without a BR!"
Meanwhile: Players still playing MCC
Hahaha true 😅
even after all this time
@@cannabidivarin when did mcc come out? 2014?
@@jaredtorres1841 around that time, yeah
@@cannabidivarin how many events in gaming were happening from 2014 to this day. I find impressive how many people never forgot mcc
"Comparison is the thief of joy"
So true
Those words are etched into my mind
Why is this piece of advise that i found because it was mentioned in a halo video about to help me with my new relationship im getting in to. It is great advice
“You had 4 and 5. Let us have Infinite” Oooo amen brother that sent chills
Amen
Spoke for all of us there. Amen
>calls for outside the box thinking
>proceeds to suggest the most generic and overused game mode to a veteran franchise
1. Following trends is what got caused the downfall of Halo in the first place
2. Campaign and good, solid, arena multiplayer is what Halo needs to be successful, end of discussion
3. Actually Dr. Disrespect having a battle royale would be appealing to the "13, 14 year old demographic"
Well said. Someone also mentioned that "if you don't like BR, just don't play it", which is flawed thinking considering that levelling up is tied behind challenges, which the BR mode definitely will have. So if you want to level up, you'd have to play the BR mode to get some challenges done.
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No it didn't. "Halo died following trends" please elaborate. Poor execution and lame campaign are trends now so I guess your right. They made too many halos that NEVER pushed the limits or felt the same as the original hype. Not following trend. Pretty sure we ALL KNOW a BR would definitely hold MORE players. Idc if you don't like BR this isn't about you. It's about the game as a whole to the fucking planet lmao
And for Act to say "cater to your old fans" is absolutely delusional from an income perspective. Also he says a BR down the line would be expected and welcomed. This guy's whole shtick is flip flopping with a consistent attitude to make a flip flopping, understandable opinion feel like a sub concrete fact. Entertaining, but yawn inducing. This is all my opinion btw 😁
That’s the stupidest shit I’ve heard all day 😂😂😂😂
The worst thing about this "every shooter needs a battle royale" mentality is that it encourages a homogenization of video games in general.
Yeah, it's just another phase of "Every game needs to have an RPG mechanic and needs to be an open world" type of deal.
I completely agree, we should all be homophobic
Wait...
Exactly. Case in point.... BF Apex 2042
@@keineken_3281 kek
Yeah man, don’t want those video games to be gay.
"A game will die if it doesn't have battle royale"
TF2 Fans currently keeping their game barely alive through hackers, lag bots, aimbotters, and a lack of updates for a handful of decades for years at a time and still going strong:
To say nothing of the fact we're still clamouring for a sequel. Albeit increasingly in vain.
How are the views tho?
@@RaulSueve The playerbase and community as a whole doesn't need any content creators anymore, the community is still hard carrying the entire game as it is.
“Ey yo we can’t carry this game alone valve give us a hand!”
@@Marin_Karin how are the views tho?
Bro, if we one day get a halo br and you get to be an odst dropping into New Mombasa that would be amazing
Halo doesn't need BR to survive, the only BR it needs is the Battle Rifle and we have it.
Ong
Agreed
Right now tho
So sick of BR's, It does have to be in every game, and isn't inherently good by design.
Streamers: Sir! Hop in! You need to get a BR!
Halo: Negative sir. I've got the gun.
I don’t understand how these streamers can spend literally EVERY stream they record screaming literally and I quote CourageJD “I HATE THIS FUCKING GAME OH MY GOD!”
Then when I new game comes out that looks awesome their immediate response is: I want this game to be more like the game I just screamed I hated.
In fact, I have heard “ImMarksman” say: “the only reason so many people watch Call of Duty on twitch is because its so garbage to play they need to watch someone else suffer for them”. 343 isn’t trying to make a game so bad that people have to watch others to enjoy it. They want to make a game that you DON’T wanna watch on Twitch because its so awesome you wanna play it yourself!
That ImMarksman quote is so accurate LOL.
It's their brains, they fried their brains from all the raging in COD/Fortnite, so now their intelligence if equivalent to that of a monkey.
@@Celestial_Wing Well, I mean we are all primates sooooo. OOh OOhh AAhh Ahhh give me banana
@@LiVerPool9891 Dunno if you're being sarcastic but he has definitely routinely said things along those lines. I am paraphrasing a bit lol.
Nobody gives a shit about streamability.
The streamers are upset because their job is streaming and Halo will be huge, but it's harder for them to not stream BR
"It's not halo infinite that won't survive without battle royale, it's you!" LOL this is so true
This is one of the most terribly aged videos I've ever seen. Halo dropped the silver platter and Dr. Disrespect revealed his true motivation for a battle royal. I feel bad for Act Man, but God this is truly a work of art.
Saying that BR is "Outside of the Box Thinking" is top irony *chefkiss*
😏👍🏼😎th-cam.com/video/KQDjfjRtMsM/w-d-xo.html
Lmao true, the horse is beyond dead and they still beating it.
And some of them literally flopped like radical heights lmao
Kek lol
battle royales are annoying, i don't want like 10% gunfight and 90% waiting/walking around.
I mean… i don’t like it either to be walking around a lot which is why I try to look for engagements in war zone whenever I can…. And the excitement I feel whenever I’m close to winning against 150 ppl is something…. BR can be fun and frustrating at the same time… strategic and fun to play with friends, it isn’t all that bad
Agreed. It’s painfully slow when compared to all of the arena shooters I grew up playing.
I like the idea of the stakes being high but I don't like 20 minutes of my time being pointless because someone landed a headshot and killed me instantly from across the map
As an Arma 3 player....we wait, we walk, we observe, we walk, hold position, we walk, we die, we respawn, we wait, we ride helo, we land, we walk, we clear AO, we go home or we clear AO, we defend HQ, survive bombardment, we scream MEDIC! and then we all die.
@@TheHealthConscounist yeah everyone gets that battle royale is a game mode you can like but we are tired of everyone saying it NEEEEEDS IT or halo infinite will die, forgetting like every game thats come out without a battle royale
As someone who’s played Halo since CE, and pulled many all nighters playing H2 online, I have to say 343 knocked it out of the park with Infinite. The game does justice to the heritage of halo, and for the first time, has the vibe Bungie created way back when. All of your views and criticisms were on point for this topic AM.
Then why is no one playing Halo anymore after a few weeks? The streamers where right. The player base has crashed. It's not even a top 20 game on twitch anymore
@@HARLEM-NEWYORK did you even watch the video? And in what way is it dead? Did your favorite streamer stop playing so it must be dead?
@@jarman395 Yeah I watched it and the streamers were correct. Halo infinite is dead and irrelevant after only a few weeks. Since it's a new game and it's not in the top 20 on twitch. The peak player base has dramatically decreased. Those are 2 very bad things for a new game. On twitch it's behind Apex, Warzone, Fortnite, even destiny 2. How in the world are less people watching Halo infinite then a old ass destiny 2? That's pathetic!
@@HARLEM-NEWYORK he literally says in the video you can't base game popularity off twitch top games. Twitch average viewer base is so much smaller than the 2 billion of TH-cam. I believe he said it's like 200k. So what is that 1/10th??? TH-cam has so much Halo infinite content rn. You say you watched the videos but you just watched the Doc and Tim clips got butthurt and didn't hear anything else.
@@jarman395 My point is Act man is wrong. The streamers were right. Twitch viewership shows the popularity of a game compared to other games. Explain to me why Halo has less viewers then Destiny 2, Warzone, Apex, etc... Explain to me why the peak player base has fallen so much since launch? It's current player numbers are close to battlefield 2042 which is also a dead game. There's something wrong with Halo. Everyone loved Halo when it first came out but it can't be a good game if no one is still playing it or watching it after a month
I’m pretty sure Halo already has a BR don’t it?
They added it in halo 2, it has a 3 round burst and functions as a solid mid-long range weapon.
This
And THIS shows who is, and is not, a hardcore Halo fan...
It's okay if your not, but still...
They keep saying "royale", did you they change the name or something?
That's.... That's a good one I'll give ya that one lel
@@GRAHAMICVS maybe it's a custom version of it
“Without a BR mode, Halo Infinite will die in three weeks”
Me who's playing the same old Halo games on multiplayer and still having fun....
Doc was referring to halo from a spectators pov. Like on livestreaming
Halo has always had a BR mode, its called team swat 😌
you forgot the part "from a spectating standpoint". Which is true, people dont watch deathmatch
@@MsDoomface People don’t watch death-match on twitch* fixed it for you.
@@dkoda840 death match is boring to watch on any platform. Doc uses TH-cam..
As Russian Badger had said about reach: it’s amazing that everyone has the same weapons and can pick up the same weapons. Unlike most games nowadays where you have to be able to customize your gun to the max.
That’s the beauty of arena shooters man. Yeah some guns may be better but ultimately you can make ALL of the weapons work depending on how you play mechanically, there won’t be guns that everyone is using like in COD
@@moonmanthemenace7339 that's the beauty. Once I get the battle rifle, oooo those kills are going to like up.
But every other gun is usable, except the ravager lol
@@moonmanthemenace7339 halo counts as an arena shooter
@@moonmanthemenace7339 except the br75 lol
THIS. Most of the big IP fps games nowadays seems to having crack with customization thingy (apart from halo of course). You got COD Vanguard that has big excuse to go back to classic cod (1-3, world at war to an extend) but no, they rather choose to made them as "big warzone DLC". Bf2042 has too much costumization that it become something other than battlefield.
The man who acts, you never fail to impress! Great stuff man!
So he constantly disappoints you?
@@pugsofsmallstreet5858 oops I fixed it lol
@@mrbumbustic18 haha better!
I'm so excited to see a game WITHOUT a BR for once. Just classic multiplayer is going to be so nice. c:
agreed. battle royales are just so oversaturated atm
That's what I felt with cod mw 2019. I preferred playing the classic multiplayer team deathmatch and search and destroy
Why not both tho
@@Cloudaddy220 cause it feels like you’re playing the same game over and over again
@@Cloudaddy220 19:50 He says why in the video
21:57 if you just want to get straight to the point
"We've waited on Halo Infinite for 6 years; its not going away in 3 weeks"
Frick yeah Man Of Acting that sentence got me pumped WOOOOHOOOOO
Probably will tbh
@@xertz2502 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I've been waiting for a new Halo since 2009, so twice that time.
@@xertz2502 no it won't
@@xertz2502 “I’m going to say a point without giving any other details on it; indicating I am either a troll or just didn’t think that far ahead.”
I guess the whole thing with Halo is, that it's more than just a game. The Lore is immense. The games are just once piece of the story. Literally and figuratively.
Don't forget the legacy, after I watched a video of a guy that was so excited because this Halo will be on Zeta Halo, his excitement got me and now I'm playing the other games just to catch up with the lore. XD
its is a bit like saying Mass effect or Dragon age need multiplayer, they had multiplayer and I was a big fan of what they did with it BUT the removal of multiplayer didnt stop anyone getting ME:LE or hyped over DA4 because the core of the game is the world and the lore. The core of Halo is the World and the gameplay BR of not that will be what makes people play it
No one cares about FPS campaigns. They're boring af, Halo is no different. Multi-player looks fun though
@@GenerationIcarus If no one cared they wouldn't be making tons of money, stupid.
@@GenerationIcarus I enjoy campaigns actually. And I'm sure plenty of others do too.
Doc doesn’t like halo because cortonas not 15
She's 8
@@Sigma53772But she looks like an adult
Imagine thinking stream viewership dictates if a game is "dead."
i mean if that is how you get paid its pretty easy to see it that way.
Good points.
Yeah look at tf2
TF2 comes to mind
Same would be true for Skyrim