MvP Maru... he's up there before but we've seen dominance like this before but its wayy more impressive to see it done on this patch more than anything.
I fucking love the way Clem plays Terran. he uses radars. he's super aggressive instead of turtling behind tanks and nukes he uses pretty much every unit type in the roster he's a beast.
that radar use was smart. he would catch a lot of infestors trying to sneak in that way. I'm guessing Serral isn't used to his infestors getting caught like that.
Holy shit that was some new level of play. The double marine micro stutter step on two fronts was insane. I can't believe a human being can have the capacity to do that.
I've been a long time fan, 49 years old now, since the release of SC2. I was an avid watcher of high level replays from back in the Husky and HD days. I've not been watching SC2 pro players for quite a few years now but this was my first full watch through and I gotta say this young cat Clem blew me away. Last I seen it was Serral who was just stomping on players left and right, but on this day, Clem had his number. Fantastic watch and especially fantastic commentary!!!
@@sepg5084 I would agree with that statement only if clem wasn’t the only Terran to be able to beat serral late game with said ghosts. Olivera was able to beat him last IEMs but with a bunch of all ins hitting different timings.
@@sepg5084 You can't be real with blaming balance, such a dimwit take. Clem had the superior play, it was obvious the whole tournament. Plus, only one terran ended up in the Top 4, how on earth can you blame the ghost balance in that ? Cure / Maru out from Top4 and you blame the fcking balance :)
What is nasty here is that it is clearly a balance issue in SC2 - namely 3 3 marines in drop ships are OP, and people have known that for a long time. Serral doesn't lose 5-0 in a World Final unless there's a balance issue. It's a telling one because it is the only way basically high level terrans play - even within Terran itself it's an OP Balance issue where you never see anything but drop ships and marines.
@@ShyBri41 You do know Serral had to win against other players to get to the grand final, right? And I'm very sure some of those players are Terran. Should those Terran players that lost to Serral then be saying 'Boo hoo zerg is OP'?
Clem has achieved anybody has ever dreamt of. He is unique player, and he is a legendary player from my side as Serral was in 2017/2018. Been cheering for Serral since 2014 and for Clem since 2016. They are both Unique, but Clem deserved it. :) He lost 2 games in the whole tournament.
Hope you upload more man! I've been really missing the starcraft and your editing is always really good and engaging! This is 100% my preferred place to get it!
No dominance like this was ever seen by a Terran before, especially not against the GOAT of SC2. Serral the GOAT just won 2024 Katowice with an unprecedented 20-1 map score, he's at his prime and best level. Military service didn't prevent him from beating up herO, Dark, Maru, literally the best P, Z, T other than himself and Clem with a 13-3 map score in this tournament! Serral's in the top form, but that's still not enough to even get one map from Clem. Clem's micro is probably at human limit.
@@pupper5580 Since he is in military, he litterammy crushed everyone and commentators was saying it was Serral domination like in 2018 until his 0-3 vs Clem. So, yes, Serral was in top form.
@@broome090 You're contradicting yourself genius, half the players were indeed T, including beasts like Maru, Cure, Byun, Gumi. How then only one ends up in the final if T is broken ??
@@ThePritt12 I mean that's fine. I just like them for how funny they interact with each other. They're what got me into watching Starcraft tournaments in the first place since I don't play it.
He had no more space in the game and wasn't making any progress at all no matter what he tried. His bank was irrelevant since he couldn't find any way to leverage it at all. He was losing units faster than he could reproduce armies, which is crazy for a Zerg.
if i remember correctly, Serral ran out of larvae, so 8k/3k bank was unspendable, meaning their just numbers that have no value, which is essentially what bank is in the game, if you have any amount of resources in the bank, they technically have no value, their just dispalyed numbers until they are used.
@@jakesascension4682 I'm sure that's why there was only one Terran player in the top 4? Why the finals was a TvZ rather than a TvT? You should probably stop huffing paint before you post mate.
@@censuur12Clem has found the most OP strategy vs Zerg. You can't tell me it's not true. Terran have better tools and uses it better than anyone. Ghosts? Mines? These units are memes
Terran has all the tools to defeat zergs. We just never had someone good enough to use them, til Clem. Zergs need a unit that shift balance for z for once
Terrans has all the tools to defeat all races except themselves tbh. If you dont think that, just look at the ghost and the window mines. Both of them are basically useless in TvT but used so much in both TvP and TvZ
Zerg can’t defeat terrans in the current state of the game. This is what those games are showing. Clem plays top level but it’s not enough. There is a huge balance issue, which for me is a combination of stim marines moving too fast and Zergs not being able to produce enough units.
Clem was everywhere. Near perfect micro and macro. A new limit is fixed now to other players. It requires insane speed and control to play like this. This was absolutely amazing. The challenge is clear for every player now.
Clems very very good but the issue here is balance. Marines in drop ships is a balance issue - Serral doesn't lose 0-5 in world finals unless there is one, and a good example of that balance issue is basically all high level terrans play that drop ship style. They are easily and cheaply produced and upgraded units that are hugely powerful, especially at 3 3, and the boost feature on drop ships and instant pick up make them massively over powerered. Good on Clem, but he just won 400k in a chess tournament where the other player started with less pieces. I suspect that Serral is thinking that and he justifiably is.
@@ShyBri41 As a Serral fan: Do you blame the same thing (balance) when Maru gets cooked 4-0 mulitple times by Serral? I don't understand why it is so hard to admit that Clem simply was better that day. Yes, a 5-0 hurts to see but Clem is making things possible the same way Serral made them possible when people never thought there'd be a player to play Zerg that way. Last time when Clem won 3-1 or 3-0, Serral won their next encounter. Just give the GOAT some time.
@@marcelbenner993 That guy is replying on every comment, seething that drop ships are unbalanced. He's Artosis's throwaway account from another timeline
@@marcelbenner993 as the one dude said elsewhere Take a cheaply, quickly, mass produced unit that shoots up and sideways, is wicked fast, and can be healed by wicked fast, cheap, two at a time mass produced, instant pick up drop ships…where essentially the only way to stop this is dependent on the Terran players micro ability. And then combine that with professional players doing this for a well paid living… And you get Clem basically breaking the game (or showing why the marine medivacs need a nerf) because this is so clearly OP balance it’s ridiculous. A newb could watch this games and say “it sure seems unfair the one team has those flying pick up ships and buzz saw little marine guys”
Clem is doing waves. He doesn't just send a small squad and do itty bitty damage at a time. In the 2nd match with the Helions + cloaked Banshees, that was pure gold! If he massed up a tad bit more and had maybe 3-5 more units, he could have plowed through. But that just goes with the territory.. you can't truly know if that is a viable option without allowing too much time to pass. And the multi point harass is top level! It's not easy to do. But he seems to have developed a very reliably good scheme with group assignments.
Completely agree, I have never seen such high level skill level match before, Serral was the most insane zerg I have ever seen, while Clem terran is even beyond that... Totally mind blown.
hes a good player but he's got 3 3 marines that are easily upgraded from moment 1 of the game and cost 50 mins, in super OP drop ships with instant pick up, speed boost, and health. THis is so clearly a balance issue it's tough to see Tastosis cast this game without pointing out the obvious.
@@wolverinex9748 Maru is clearly below Clem. Terran is not imba Until you Reach the "Serral and Clem" level. Why? That is because Terran units gain bigger bonuses from micro and have a higher skill celling. If we put 2 players into tvz and both of them play Perfectly, there is no way for the Terran to lose because the micro bonus from Terran is greater. Lategame Terran army will always beat a lategame zerg army od equal skill level. The micro with the zerg doesnt do much except spells casters which will be sniped by ghosts(remember, this is played perfectly so in lategame Terran Has sensor towers and enought scans to kill all burrowed infestors and with more micro that you can do with Terran, zerg doesnt trade efficiently in a straight up engagement).
I'm surprised that in game 5 Clem sniped Serral's vision and Serral thought "Surely he has no widow mines to retreat to, it must be a ruse" and fell right into a widow mine trap.
@@DaevorTheDevoted No, the dance between zerg and terran is inevitable for the zerg. 90% of the time zerg takes slight losses, 10% of the time zerg makes a giant cleanup. if he would not have been going back and forth - which means losing units due to kiting and mines - he would have lost ground which leads to losing bases which leads to an even earlier end of the game. But go on, tell the best player of all times, how he could improve. It was of course by far not his greates series, but of course he had in the back of his mind that going for hydras etc. is an option. But he decided it would have been even worse. And I am sure, he was correct on that. Those things are expensive and slow and die to bio in a µ. His problem was that Clem played one of the best series ever played. He would have beaten anybody on that day.
Clem always seems to be a hit or miss in tournaments sometimes he drops at group stage and other time plays like this. He's totally on fire in this series must've gotten under Serral's skin on that previous 3-0 already. Congrats Clem it's fun to see someone else win for a change
I lost money to my brother over this match, thinking serral will win. I knew serral was good, really good. But this game was an eye opener, and a punch to my wallet.
So proud of Clem, he's always been a great offensive terran and that seems to be the only way to take down zerg players now. No more sitting back and building defenses, he's proactive, kid is strafing 2 separate groups of units at the same time, how do you even do that lol. I was the biggest Maru fan boy but Clem IS the best Terran player, hands down.
Maru's micro is just degrading over and over in the last couple of years. I've been watching him since 2013, and skill wise, he's new very far from his prime. It's even frustrating to me if I try to watch him now, knowing everything he could do in the past.
Absolutely ridiculous! Has to be among the best if not goat performances. Outclassing and shutting out Serral, who didn't even play poorly or anything. Extraordinary
Is this why the recent balance patch pretty much said "Terran needs a Ghost nerf?" My opinion is a gross simplification from a not-even-grandmaster person, but the value of Ghosts countering multiple high level unit plays and strats from both Zerg and Protoss seems busted. Where for Zerg and Protoss it's a substantial tech switch to try to push through with mid-late game unit A versus unit B, for Terran it's the same "get ghosts, you covered for both." That's what is frustrating to watch. It seems really silly that Ghosts are what you need to deal with: Vipers, Infester -- mid/late game casters. Ultralisks and Broodlords -- literally the "strongest" late game unit in air and on the ground. Anything other than mass cheap units, it seems like having a group of Ghosts has you covered. Against Protoss EMP is does something against literally everything, every caster. Protoss high level air has a lot of shield though so EMP is still very effective and necessary. For Protoss they can somewhat defend against Ghost's with observers in sentry mode (not sure what it's call) being an invisible detector with very high range, or even revelation being pretty strong when it's tracking a group of Ghosts. But as Zerg, they seem to have to play by guessing where the Ghosts are reacting and hoping the hits are super critical.
Haven't played SC II for over a decade, but I noticed that the marine medvac combo is very hard on zerg. Maybe it's just me or a fresh eye view perspective.
Clem played amazingly well but I also think the strength of ghosts right now plays in, they invalidate a lot of the zerg caster units and once those support units are out of the picture its a lot easier to be efficient with your trades. Clem played out of his mind though at a level of skill and speed and micro that was unbelievable to watch.
Excuse me while I pick my jaw up off the floor. Clem is the ultimate form of all the Terran before him. From Flash to Innovation to Polt to Maru. That was insane 5 games of constant attack and he made maybe like 2 tanks. It’s pure bio mine for an hour. And he did it to Serral no less
In the last couple of years the Maru's micro is just degrading over and over. I've been watching him since 2013, and skill wise, now he's very far from his prime time. It's even frustrating to me to watch him playing now, knowing everything he could do in the past.
That was a ridiculously incredible series. How is it even possible for Clem to be that aggressive and yet never overextend even slightly? If you ever want to see a player dialed in to a tee in what he can do, Clem is that guy.
Serral must have been hungover. A clean 5 game sweep against the greatest sc2 player in all of human history is still a major accomplishment for Clem. Kudos!
Isn't he in military service rn? That would mean a lot less practice time and even reaching finals is an accomplishment...well it was, also if he was not in mandatory service.
@@Floxxoror Serral is still in military service and less time practice than anyone else. I thought Clem research and learning Serral's demos, games and how to play against etc. Serral will coming again when him military service is past.
Clems very very good but the issue here is balance. Marines in drop ships is a balance issue - Serral doesn't lose 0-5 in world finals unless there is one, and a good example of that balance issue is basically all high level terrans play that drop ship style. They are easily and cheaply produced and upgraded units that are hugely powerful, especially at 3 3, and the boost feature on drop ships and instant pick up make them massively over powerered. Good on Clem, but he just won 400k in a chess tournament where the other player started with less pieces.
@@ShyBri41 balance my ass. Serral beat Maru in a dominating fashion in this world cup with the same army composition. A LOT of terran pro-players joined this tournament and ONLY CLEM managed to survive lol. 2 zerg, 1 terran, 1 protoss. Serral lost 8-0 (consecutive) vs. Clem in this world cup alone. 3-0 in the Knockout, 5-0 in the finals. balance has nothing to do with it. give credit where credit is due.
well zerg has been nerfed a ton for 5 straight years. i hope blizzard realizes this and starts balancing this game starting with ghost, marines, and mules nerf. 8 maxed marines ball in a good position is untouchable for any zerg units late game, and gets safely instant pick upped when cornered meanwhile ghost has no counter for a 2supply unit. it just destroys lings, ultras, broods, lurkers, infestors from miles away, and even fast enough to outrun fungal, and banes, as if it cant tank 5 bane hits to begin with. then theres mules a 0supply unit that can generate infinite marines. it just makes terran the most potent in a 200supply vs 200supply game i think they should atleast nerf the shield or stimpack upgrade effects, slow down ghost to a high templar speed, or increase its supply cost, or maybe remove emp and give it to ravens, and also decrease mules income
I remember 2016/2017, when i was watching "Underdog" on french Ogaming channel, when Clem was 14 years old and starting his carrer ... What a journey, une grosse baguette pour notre Clément !
Unless I missed it, I'm dissapointed in their cast here. This is so clearly a balance issue involving easily produced and upgraded super powerful cheap marines in speed boosted, instant pick up from distance, healing drop ships. Its clearly an OP balance issue, primarily with the drop ships needing a huge nerf. And it's tough watching Tastosis not state the obvious because serious SC2 people watching this game can see it clear as day and understand that basically we just watched a chess tournament with one player with more / better pieces than the other. This was a horrible, boring, game to watch because of it.
@@ShyBri41 how is it CLEARLY a balance issue? how can u use a single series as the metric bro thats awful science. u forget the perspective of medivac having no attack yet taking up supply, slow when not boosting, expensive, slow to build, and marines extremely sensitive to AoE/being cornered/caught in the open. and ALL races can drop; why would u nerf it? and how do u get ur cohort of "serious SC2-people"?? as almost 4k elo and fan since early wol i consider myself an avid and "serious" fan, but i take more than one series and two players into account before i declare something unbalanced! :) This is not a wide-spread problem, this is just a God-like player. (edit: possibly also bit of a bungle-fluster by the "God-like" albeit still mortal former conqueror-goat)
Two points: 1. 1st place is 400k and 2nd place is 150k, pretty good winnings for both Clem and Serral respectively. 2. The fact that Dark AND Hero both got 0-4'd by Clem and Serral just shows how out of it that South Korea is with SC2, with most Korean pros going back into brood war.
It seems like when played at the maximum level, there's nothing Zerg can actually do against Terran. Every single tool the Terran has seems to hard counter them for too little effort.
Clem had much less to do then serral did 100% ghosts have been broken for yeaaaaars zero nerf. It's only because seral is so good that they've nerfed zerg hard for 5 years. This tournament was a gimme to clem. 5 - 0 on seral not a chance if balanced.
Ghost is very strong vs zerg, yes, but zerg was making several mistakes. Allowing free viper/ultra snipes, not counterattacking bases, making way too many hydralisks. And even on a strategic level, going for a repeated semi all in on game 3 when it got crushed on game 1, of course it was never going to work. Terran meanwhile played almost without any errors at all, almost never giving away units.
There is a balance issue, period. You don’t have to diminish Clem’s performance to realize that. Stim’ marines move as fast as a zergling, what the hell is that, it makes zero sense, both from a balance perspective and from a design perspective. Also the cap or supply cost doesn’t work as it is now. You have 200/200 Zerg facing 200/200 Terran and armies are almost identical, this is a major issue for a race designed to outnumber opponents.
@@almightyhydra You practically can't escape a ghost snipe, it's nearly impossible for vipers and ultras. It has like 10 range fires triggers in 1.5 seconds, and you have to get 14 range away from the snipe to actually escape it. Even if you react instantly, only a friendly abduct could save that unit. It's one of those things that is infinitely easier for the Terran to execute and nearly impossible to counter for the Zerg. Ghosts are also quite small so it's hard to know when they get in range of your casters.
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Clem has reached a level I've never seen on any terran player before. This is properly insane.
MvP Maru... he's up there before but we've seen dominance like this before but its wayy more impressive to see it done on this patch more than anything.
terran drops and 3 3 marines is simply OP its a balance issue
@@ShyBri41 Stop. Crying.
yea, someone finally came close to serrals skill and is now carried by terran being broken
@@tearsien tears in your name is fitting BAWWWWWW
Beating Serral at all is an incredible feat, but beating serral 5-0 is just absolutely insane!!
8-0, counting their bracket series.
Terran is just OP
I fucking love the way Clem plays Terran.
he uses radars. he's super aggressive instead of turtling behind tanks and nukes
he uses pretty much every unit type in the roster
he's a beast.
that radar use was smart. he would catch a lot of infestors trying to sneak in that way. I'm guessing Serral isn't used to his infestors getting caught like that.
They're called "Scans", not "radars", and he does that because he knows Serral destroys Terrans in late game with those burrowed Infestors.
Holy shit that was some new level of play. The double marine micro stutter step on two fronts was insane. I can't believe a human being can have the capacity to do that.
What's the timestamp on that play?
@@spartanlord101 basically each game since 5th minute onwards lol
Easy, Clem was doping
@@spartanlord101 24:11
Clem's marine play has always been above everyone else's. It was his macro plays that were questionable.
I feel like there is no skill ceiling in RTS games. Every year these players keep getting better, incredible
Just a little longer and they will catch up with the monkeys.
There are limits, then AI takes over.
I've been watching StarCraft for over a decade and I've never seen anything like this
balance issue
@@onetwo-gt2tr skill issue on your side then?
@@Bortscht nope, balance issue, terran is giga broken
@@onetwo-gt2tr alright, go ahead?
Explain why terran broken.. Simple question no answer
Finally!! SC2HL is back!!!
Right when we needed him most
they really loved zooming in on Serral whenever he puffed out his cheeks lol
Lol when you're good people like seeing you lose .
i felt like they really kicked him while he was down on all those closeups
It's a classic zerg animation.
When the Terran player stims himself
underrated
Tbh given there are no doping tests in esports, I wouldn't be surprised if most RTS players stim themselves.
AAAAAH YEAH THAT'S THE STUFF
If everyone does it, then it's fair play again.
I certainly recognized a fellow "stim" enjoyer when I saw those eyes, though.
Clem's youthful energy was unreal. He was like a boxer that just doesn't stop punching and somehow never runs out of breath.
Serral doing militar y service
Clem is at the perfect point between youthful and experience. He's at the top prime to his top level. Total killer.
Stutter stepping two separate packs of marines at 24:20 is just ridiculous! Was Maru hiding under Clem’s desk giving him double the APM?
I really wanna see a championship where world class players compete in Archon mode
He had an extra mouse and mini keyboard and was playing with his feet.
He replaced his brain with a machine. Stutterstepping festival, but amount of thinking required: 0.
If he was underneath his desk, he was doing more than just giving him APM
I've been a long time fan, 49 years old now, since the release of SC2. I was an avid watcher of high level replays from back in the Husky and HD days. I've not been watching SC2 pro players for quite a few years now but this was my first full watch through and I gotta say this young cat Clem blew me away. Last I seen it was Serral who was just stomping on players left and right, but on this day, Clem had his number. Fantastic watch and especially fantastic commentary!!!
Great to hear these 2 guys commentating SC2 again
The fact that he beat serral 5-0 without a single cheese or all in is what makes this an incredible performance. This was a literal dominance.
Well, Ghost is OP against any and all late game Zerg unit. 1 unit to counter all late game zerg units 🤷
@@sepg5084 I would agree with that statement only if clem wasn’t the only Terran to be able to beat serral late game with said ghosts. Olivera was able to beat him last IEMs but with a bunch of all ins hitting different timings.
@@sepg5084 Let's forget all the times he cooked him without ghosts lmao
@@sepg5084 You can't be real with blaming balance, such a dimwit take. Clem had the superior play, it was obvious the whole tournament.
Plus, only one terran ended up in the Top 4, how on earth can you blame the ghost balance in that ? Cure / Maru out from Top4 and you blame the fcking balance :)
Serral cried in game 4😂
A best of 9 in 5 games is nasty work
Oh you spoiler! But really?!?? HOly! Vs the goat!!
What is nasty here is that it is clearly a balance issue in SC2 - namely 3 3 marines in drop ships are OP, and people have known that for a long time. Serral doesn't lose 5-0 in a World Final unless there's a balance issue. It's a telling one because it is the only way basically high level terrans play - even within Terran itself it's an OP Balance issue where you never see anything but drop ships and marines.
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Talking about balance even though Clem's play was essentially perfect and he used varied and multiple tier unit compositions every single game.
@@ShyBri41 Yeah, the balance issue makes Serral win every single match except against Clem.
@@ShyBri41 You do know Serral had to win against other players to get to the grand final, right? And I'm very sure some of those players are Terran. Should those Terran players that lost to Serral then be saying 'Boo hoo zerg is OP'?
Finally Clem! i remember seeing him years ago. look at him now.
Clem has achieved anybody has ever dreamt of. He is unique player, and he is a legendary player from my side as Serral was in 2017/2018. Been cheering for Serral since 2014 and for Clem since 2016. They are both Unique, but Clem deserved it. :) He lost 2 games in the whole tournament.
He’s been steadily on the rise for a while, it’s nothing new him doing well.
But I agree it has been fun watching him grow as a player
I have been waiting for SC2HL to make more content
Hope you upload more man! I've been really missing the starcraft and your editing is always really good and engaging! This is 100% my preferred place to get it!
No dominance like this was ever seen by a Terran before, especially not against the GOAT of SC2. Serral the GOAT just won 2024 Katowice with an unprecedented 20-1 map score, he's at his prime and best level. Military service didn't prevent him from beating up herO, Dark, Maru, literally the best P, Z, T other than himself and Clem with a 13-3 map score in this tournament! Serral's in the top form, but that's still not enough to even get one map from Clem. Clem's micro is probably at human limit.
Considering Serral is doing military service (if I'm not mistaken), there is absolutely no way Serral is in top form.
@@pupper5580 Since he is in military, he litterammy crushed everyone and commentators was saying it was Serral domination like in 2018 until his 0-3 vs Clem. So, yes, Serral was in top form.
terran is just broken now.
That was some of the e best Terran gameplay I’ve seen in my life. It’s like Clem played the perfect game.
The King is dead.
Long live the King.
Ghost is the new king. 1 unit to counter all late game zerg units 🤷
@@sepg5084yup
And somehow, I know they’re going to nerf Zerg again
@@sepg5084 Sure, that explains why there only was one Terran player in the finals.
@@ZeAldhyrignorant take when half the players in the tourney were terrans. Marine medivac add ghost, GG.
@@broome090 You're contradicting yourself genius, half the players were indeed T, including beasts like Maru, Cure, Byun, Gumi. How then only one ends up in the final if T is broken ??
We want clem´s POV of this matchup
You'll get nauseous
@write-only where please ?
@@Sanguinarius9999write pov Clem 👍🥵
On spawning tool you have all replays you can watch them lkie your own.
Wait, Tastosis is back?
At this point only Saudi can afford them :)
I prefer most post-tastosis casters by now tbh...
@@ThePritt12 I mean that's fine. I just like them for how funny they interact with each other. They're what got me into watching Starcraft tournaments in the first place since I don't play it.
@@martianmarcera6721 I love them, despite my favourite is Winter
They never showed video of the handsomest casters? Were they even there or did phone it in?
I used to watch a lot more sc2, now only once in a while, but this channel's casters bring me back.
Serral tapped out of game 4 with a 8k/3k bank. That really shows that he had no answers for Clem's play. He didn't even want to try anymore.
He had no more space in the game and wasn't making any progress at all no matter what he tried. His bank was irrelevant since he couldn't find any way to leverage it at all. He was losing units faster than he could reproduce armies, which is crazy for a Zerg.
if i remember correctly, Serral ran out of larvae, so 8k/3k bank was unspendable, meaning their just numbers that have no value, which is essentially what bank is in the game, if you have any amount of resources in the bank, they technically have no value, their just dispalyed numbers until they are used.
It's wasn't Clems play 🤣🤣 zero doesn't stand a chance against terran anymore it is imba
@@jakesascension4682 I'm sure that's why there was only one Terran player in the top 4? Why the finals was a TvZ rather than a TvT? You should probably stop huffing paint before you post mate.
@@censuur12Clem has found the most OP strategy vs Zerg. You can't tell me it's not true. Terran have better tools and uses it better than anyone. Ghosts? Mines? These units are memes
Terran has all the tools to defeat zergs. We just never had someone good enough to use them, til Clem. Zergs need a unit that shift balance for z for once
Terrans has all the tools to defeat all races except themselves tbh. If you dont think that, just look at the ghost and the window mines. Both of them are basically useless in TvT but used so much in both TvP and TvZ
Zerg can’t defeat terrans in the current state of the game. This is what those games are showing. Clem plays top level but it’s not enough. There is a huge balance issue, which for me is a combination of stim marines moving too fast and Zergs not being able to produce enough units.
Clem was everywhere. Near perfect micro and macro. A new limit is fixed now to other players. It requires insane speed and control to play like this. This was absolutely amazing. The challenge is clear for every player now.
Clem appeared so calm throughout as Serral got more and more flustered.
Clems very very good but the issue here is balance. Marines in drop ships is a balance issue - Serral doesn't lose 0-5 in world finals unless there is one, and a good example of that balance issue is basically all high level terrans play that drop ship style. They are easily and cheaply produced and upgraded units that are hugely powerful, especially at 3 3, and the boost feature on drop ships and instant pick up make them massively over powerered. Good on Clem, but he just won 400k in a chess tournament where the other player started with less pieces. I suspect that Serral is thinking that and he justifiably is.
@@ShyBri41
As a Serral fan: Do you blame the same thing (balance) when Maru gets cooked 4-0 mulitple times by Serral? I don't understand why it is so hard to admit that Clem simply was better that day.
Yes, a 5-0 hurts to see but Clem is making things possible the same way Serral made them possible when people never thought there'd be a player to play Zerg that way.
Last time when Clem won 3-1 or 3-0, Serral won their next encounter. Just give the GOAT some time.
@@marcelbenner993Waiting for nerf of terran
@@marcelbenner993 That guy is replying on every comment, seething that drop ships are unbalanced. He's Artosis's throwaway account from another timeline
@@marcelbenner993 as the one dude said elsewhere
Take a cheaply, quickly, mass produced unit that shoots up and sideways, is wicked fast, and can be healed by wicked fast, cheap, two at a time mass produced, instant pick up drop ships…where essentially the only way to stop this is dependent on the Terran players micro ability.
And then combine that with professional players doing this for a well paid living…
And you get Clem basically breaking the game (or showing why the marine medivacs need a nerf) because this is so clearly OP balance it’s ridiculous. A newb could watch this games and say “it sure seems unfair the one team has those flying pick up ships and buzz saw little marine guys”
Clem is doing waves. He doesn't just send a small squad and do itty bitty damage at a time. In the 2nd match with the Helions + cloaked Banshees, that was pure gold! If he massed up a tad bit more and had maybe 3-5 more units, he could have plowed through.
But that just goes with the territory.. you can't truly know if that is a viable option without allowing too much time to pass. And the multi point harass is top level! It's not easy to do. But he seems to have developed a very reliably good scheme with group assignments.
35:30 Serral's face. "im f*d". Amazing match. I think I never saw Serral that stressed
Damn Clem, way to go! I thought Serral was immortal. You proved me wrong. Good job dude!
OMG Clem microing both armies at the same time, i dont know even how to do that. GG😂😂😂
I can hardly micro one army and Clem is making 2 look like child's play
and with a PERFECT macro in the same time .
I swear SC2 pros have 2 independent brains.
Completely agree, I have never seen such high level skill level match before, Serral was the most insane zerg I have ever seen, while Clem terran is even beyond that... Totally mind blown.
Clem has 4 arms, 4 eyes and 2 brains
hes a good player but he's got 3 3 marines that are easily upgraded from moment 1 of the game and cost 50 mins, in super OP drop ships with instant pick up, speed boost, and health. THis is so clearly a balance issue it's tough to see Tastosis cast this game without pointing out the obvious.
@@ShyBri41blaming balance issue when serral faced other terran pros like maru
But vs clem now its unfair?lol
@@ShyBri41 You got clowned on about 50 times now stop 🤣🤡🤡🤡
@@wolverinex9748 Maru is clearly below Clem. Terran is not imba Until you Reach the "Serral and Clem" level. Why? That is because Terran units gain bigger bonuses from micro and have a higher skill celling. If we put 2 players into tvz and both of them play Perfectly, there is no way for the Terran to lose because the micro bonus from Terran is greater. Lategame Terran army will always beat a lategame zerg army od equal skill level. The micro with the zerg doesnt do much except spells casters which will be sniped by ghosts(remember, this is played perfectly so in lategame Terran Has sensor towers and enought scans to kill all burrowed infestors and with more micro that you can do with Terran, zerg doesnt trade efficiently in a straight up engagement).
@@ShyBri41 mad zergie
Clem secretly has 4 hands. That's how he can micro 2 armies. Seriously, congrats Clem! Haven't seen anyone make serral feel helpless before.
Does this mean they'll finally start balancing Terran around Clem like they've balanced(nerfed) zerg around Serral for years?
Better. Seems Terran is pretty unbalanced
He pulls you into tanks and mines like pulling a mob in an mmo. Without adequate range attackers you really can’t compete 😮
I'm surprised that in game 5 Clem sniped Serral's vision and Serral thought "Surely he has no widow mines to retreat to, it must be a ruse" and fell right into a widow mine trap.
You should contact Serral. I am sure he wants your expertise as a coach or sth.
@@Floxxoror lol, it's a fair comment he made.
@@DaevorTheDevoted No, the dance between zerg and terran is inevitable for the zerg. 90% of the time zerg takes slight losses, 10% of the time zerg makes a giant cleanup. if he would not have been going back and forth - which means losing units due to kiting and mines - he would have lost ground which leads to losing bases which leads to an even earlier end of the game.
But go on, tell the best player of all times, how he could improve. It was of course by far not his greates series, but of course he had in the back of his mind that going for hydras etc. is an option. But he decided it would have been even worse. And I am sure, he was correct on that. Those things are expensive and slow and die to bio in a µ. His problem was that Clem played one of the best series ever played. He would have beaten anybody on that day.
@@Floxxoror who hurt you?
Endgame TvZ Ghost is pretty overpowered.
24:32 "I dont even know how you do that! GG!"
Serral is amazing, and clem is relentless, this series has been so fun to watch, clem so dialed in just dominating, even against a great opponent.
Terran is OP..very obviously if u watch the healing skill of that ship, and how cheap is that infantry
Clem always seems to be a hit or miss in tournaments sometimes he drops at group stage and other time plays like this. He's totally on fire in this series must've gotten under Serral's skin on that previous 3-0 already. Congrats Clem it's fun to see someone else win for a change
I lost money to my brother over this match, thinking serral will win. I knew serral was good, really good. But this game was an eye opener, and a punch to my wallet.
Serral got nerves of Steel, gave his best at Game 5
Bo9 one-sided game : /
Kinda painful to watch
yeah painful, i'm clem fan boy but i feel sad for serral
but you've got to give it to clem. He played very well this series. something you wont see in him back 3 years ago.
both cool, awesome and sad to see a person ascend to the point where no one can challenge them :P
Mad that 8 years after I stopped playing, Terran can still win every single TvZ with just stim medivac entirely unopposed
I missed you, sc2hl! I thought you had stopped uploading videos!! Good that you came back
Clem is not human but my favorite beast
Serral is really good but Clem was cracked out of his fucking mind on these games. Holy shit.
Serral doing militar y service
Marine medivac>ling bane infstor hydra ravager lurker viper queen roach
Amazing set of games by Clem. He is just simply outpacing the opponent through pure APM skill
Nice play, hope Clem can keep this level as consistent as Serral has
So proud of Clem, he's always been a great offensive terran and that seems to be the only way to take down zerg players now. No more sitting back and building defenses, he's proactive, kid is strafing 2 separate groups of units at the same time, how do you even do that lol. I was the biggest Maru fan boy but Clem IS the best Terran player, hands down.
Maru's micro is just degrading over and over in the last couple of years. I've been watching him since 2013, and skill wise, he's new very far from his prime. It's even frustrating to me if I try to watch him now, knowing everything he could do in the past.
a sad day for zerg players. well played, Clem. GG to both.
Clem is the new Marshal of France.
Absolutely ridiculous! Has to be among the best if not goat performances. Outclassing and shutting out Serral, who didn't even play poorly or anything. Extraordinary
Is this why the recent balance patch pretty much said "Terran needs a Ghost nerf?" My opinion is a gross simplification from a not-even-grandmaster person, but the value of Ghosts countering multiple high level unit plays and strats from both Zerg and Protoss seems busted. Where for Zerg and Protoss it's a substantial tech switch to try to push through with mid-late game unit A versus unit B, for Terran it's the same "get ghosts, you covered for both." That's what is frustrating to watch. It seems really silly that Ghosts are what you need to deal with: Vipers, Infester -- mid/late game casters. Ultralisks and Broodlords -- literally the "strongest" late game unit in air and on the ground. Anything other than mass cheap units, it seems like having a group of Ghosts has you covered. Against Protoss EMP is does something against literally everything, every caster. Protoss high level air has a lot of shield though so EMP is still very effective and necessary.
For Protoss they can somewhat defend against Ghost's with observers in sentry mode (not sure what it's call) being an invisible detector with very high range, or even revelation being pretty strong when it's tracking a group of Ghosts. But as Zerg, they seem to have to play by guessing where the Ghosts are reacting and hoping the hits are super critical.
Haven't played SC II for over a decade, but I noticed that the marine medvac combo is very hard on zerg. Maybe it's just me or a fresh eye view perspective.
46:21 laughed more than I should have. his camera froze but I like to think he locked in his poker face
Stone cold focus, almost frozen in concentration
😂
Clem played amazingly well but I also think the strength of ghosts right now plays in, they invalidate a lot of the zerg caster units and once those support units are out of the picture its a lot easier to be efficient with your trades. Clem played out of his mind though at a level of skill and speed and micro that was unbelievable to watch.
Serral was broken after game 5. He looked like he was about to cry. Kinda sad to see
Watching these two play against each other is like watching a movie. Legendary matches!
Excuse me while I pick my jaw up off the floor. Clem is the ultimate form of all the Terran before him. From Flash to Innovation to Polt to Maru. That was insane 5 games of constant attack and he made maybe like 2 tanks. It’s pure bio mine for an hour. And he did it to Serral no less
Terran has always been op. Im glad we finally have a player to truly dispaly it.
They could leave the video going for a min longer to catch the players celebration, hand shake and such
First time i see Serral having hard time like this. Clem is godlike. This is insane.
so Clem has improved micromanaging, better than Maru? 🤯 damn!
Super impressive work from Clem. How the hell does one stutter step 2 marine armies simultaneously?! That was mind blowing.
In the last couple of years the Maru's micro is just degrading over and over. I've been watching him since 2013, and skill wise, now he's very far from his prime time. It's even frustrating to me to watch him playing now, knowing everything he could do in the past.
That was a ridiculously incredible series. How is it even possible for Clem to be that aggressive and yet never overextend even slightly? If you ever want to see a player dialed in to a tee in what he can do, Clem is that guy.
dude wow!! Terran is back baby!!!
clem is the only one who make serral look human.. these dude are on a league of their own
I started this video rooting for Clem to win. I ended the video rooting for Serral to win even one match.
Something I always felt watching SC2 was that for the last few years, Terran seemed to be really a defend -> punish playstyle.
Serral must have been hungover. A clean 5 game sweep against the greatest sc2 player in all of human history is still a major accomplishment for Clem. Kudos!
Isn't he in military service rn? That would mean a lot less practice time and even reaching finals is an accomplishment...well it was, also if he was not in mandatory service.
@@Floxxoror Serral is still in military service and less time practice than anyone else. I thought Clem research and learning Serral's demos, games and how to play against etc. Serral will coming again when him military service is past.
@@0TheDrake0 Even assuming Serral was rusty, a clean sweep like that is insane.
I'm in complete shock, never seen such terran play in my life.
Love the zooms on Serral face, go Clem !
Serral did everything right, the fungals, the surrounds, the blinding clouds and still got clapped
ok damn that was one sided
Clems very very good but the issue here is balance. Marines in drop ships is a balance issue - Serral doesn't lose 0-5 in world finals unless there is one, and a good example of that balance issue is basically all high level terrans play that drop ship style. They are easily and cheaply produced and upgraded units that are hugely powerful, especially at 3 3, and the boost feature on drop ships and instant pick up make them massively over powerered. Good on Clem, but he just won 400k in a chess tournament where the other player started with less pieces.
@@ShyBri41 balance my ass. Serral beat Maru in a dominating fashion in this world cup with the same army composition.
A LOT of terran pro-players joined this tournament and ONLY CLEM managed to survive lol. 2 zerg, 1 terran, 1 protoss.
Serral lost 8-0 (consecutive) vs. Clem in this world cup alone. 3-0 in the Knockout, 5-0 in the finals. balance has nothing to do with it.
give credit where credit is due.
@@ShyBri41 talk is easy, not everyone can micro 2 or even 3 prompt attack like Clem
Clem made Terran good, not the otherway
@@ShyBri41lmao this dude keeps spamming the same thing in every other comment
well zerg has been nerfed a ton for 5 straight years. i hope blizzard realizes this and starts balancing this game starting with ghost, marines, and mules nerf.
8 maxed marines ball in a good position is untouchable for any zerg units late game, and gets safely instant pick upped when cornered
meanwhile ghost has no counter for a 2supply unit. it just destroys lings, ultras, broods, lurkers, infestors from miles away, and even fast enough to outrun fungal, and banes, as if it cant tank 5 bane hits to begin with.
then theres mules a 0supply unit that can generate infinite marines. it just makes terran the most potent in a 200supply vs 200supply game
i think they should atleast nerf the shield or stimpack upgrade effects, slow down ghost to a high templar speed, or increase its supply cost, or maybe remove emp and give it to ravens, and also decrease mules income
is this from 2024? those commentators make my heart melt
Qué tal paliza !!!! Vivan los Terran !!!!
Glad i got to see this. Was curious if this duo casted this. I watched Winter cast this. He's a really good caster. Entertaining.
A shame this isnt a 9-match series, but its a fantastic one nonetheless. Tastosis is back too!
I remember 2016/2017, when i was watching "Underdog" on french Ogaming channel, when Clem was 14 years old and starting his carrer ... What a journey, une grosse baguette pour notre Clément !
Not humanly possible
Serral looked like how i always feel when i play on the ladder, and that made me sad for him
holy shit... fartosis and tasteless casting a big $$$ tourney?? is it 2010 again? love it
Unless I missed it, I'm dissapointed in their cast here. This is so clearly a balance issue involving easily produced and upgraded super powerful cheap marines in speed boosted, instant pick up from distance, healing drop ships. Its clearly an OP balance issue, primarily with the drop ships needing a huge nerf. And it's tough watching Tastosis not state the obvious because serious SC2 people watching this game can see it clear as day and understand that basically we just watched a chess tournament with one player with more / better pieces than the other. This was a horrible, boring, game to watch because of it.
@@ShyBri41 Then don't watch lmao. Be kind to yourself.
@@ShyBri41 xD Cry
@@ShyBri41 how is it CLEARLY a balance issue? how can u use a single series as the metric bro thats awful science.
u forget the perspective of medivac having no attack yet taking up supply, slow when not boosting, expensive, slow to build, and marines extremely sensitive to AoE/being cornered/caught in the open.
and ALL races can drop; why would u nerf it? and how do u get ur cohort of "serious SC2-people"?? as almost 4k elo and fan since early wol i consider myself an avid and "serious" fan, but i take more than one series and two players into account before i declare something unbalanced! :) This is not a wide-spread problem, this is just a God-like player. (edit: possibly also bit of a bungle-fluster by the "God-like" albeit still mortal former conqueror-goat)
@@randz4607 cry about the fact your crying telling me to cry cause deep down you know I’m right
Even the brutlords didnt know what to do. Holy moly that micro!!! 😮
Two points:
1. 1st place is 400k and 2nd place is 150k, pretty good winnings for both Clem and Serral respectively.
2. The fact that Dark AND Hero both got 0-4'd by Clem and Serral just shows how out of it that South Korea is with SC2, with most Korean pros going back into brood war.
Command Clem 🇫🇷🇫🇷🔥🔥🔥!!
Wow an amazing Terran player. Amazing video, i enjoyed thoroughly, thank you.
It seems like when played at the maximum level, there's nothing Zerg can actually do against Terran. Every single tool the Terran has seems to hard counter them for too little effort.
for too little effort? sure, just play like Clem and micro two armies at once, lol yeah little effort
Clem had much less to do then serral did 100% ghosts have been broken for yeaaaaars zero nerf. It's only because seral is so good that they've nerfed zerg hard for 5 years. This tournament was a gimme to clem. 5 - 0 on seral not a chance if balanced.
Ghost is very strong vs zerg, yes, but zerg was making several mistakes. Allowing free viper/ultra snipes, not counterattacking bases, making way too many hydralisks. And even on a strategic level, going for a repeated semi all in on game 3 when it got crushed on game 1, of course it was never going to work. Terran meanwhile played almost without any errors at all, almost never giving away units.
There is a balance issue, period. You don’t have to diminish Clem’s performance to realize that. Stim’ marines move as fast as a zergling, what the hell is that, it makes zero sense, both from a balance perspective and from a design perspective. Also the cap or supply cost doesn’t work as it is now. You have 200/200 Zerg facing 200/200 Terran and armies are almost identical, this is a major issue for a race designed to outnumber opponents.
@@almightyhydra You practically can't escape a ghost snipe, it's nearly impossible for vipers and ultras. It has like 10 range fires triggers in 1.5 seconds, and you have to get 14 range away from the snipe to actually escape it. Even if you react instantly, only a friendly abduct could save that unit. It's one of those things that is infinitely easier for the Terran to execute and nearly impossible to counter for the Zerg. Ghosts are also quite small so it's hard to know when they get in range of your casters.
Have been watching sc2 for years, and watch how they keep destroying and nerfing zerg. Watching 3 marines deal with bunch of zerglings is insane
There is a huge balance issue on highest level of play i think its pretty obvious
OMG this is super insane! Crazy Clem.... super skillful
Please make an EWC compilation
Will do!
@@SC2HL awesome!
I feel stupid for asking: what's EWC? 😕
I've been playing sc since 1997 and if you told me you could play like this even 15 years ago I'd have laughed at the absurdity. Now I watch in awe
Terrans been too OP for way too long
Clem, this kid is my new Idol. Bien joué man.
So I don’t watch much sc2, but I don’t remember Medivacs being that OP. Dude legit runs tier 1 units and wins lmao, wtf
To all the haters: humble yourself and kneel!