Anakin didn't ALWAYS think the Jedi were flawed he genuinely believed in them as a child and as a padawan but as he grew older he became more suspicious of the Council's true nature, considering his master was on the council and he was considered the "chosen one" it would only make sense that he spent a lot of time among them. He devoted his entire life to an ideology and creed that he truly believed in, he practically hated himself because of his actions on Tatooine knowing full well that it wasn't the Jedi way and it would forever scar him as a flawed Jedi. Though due to their questionable decisions in times of war Anakin himself grew suspicious of the council itself which was only compounded by the conferences with Chancellor Palpatine who clearly knew way more than the Jedi thought he did. Essentially Anakin/Vader was screwed from the start and it was the Jedi that caused him to completely lose all faith in the Order. His story is truly tragic.
Bobby Bologna you almost seem like your making it sound like vader and palpatine are good.everyone now adays are twisting truth to make light of bad people and forgetting dastardly deeds theyve committed.snoop dog is now portrayed as a wholesome guy.he was involved in a drive by shooting that got someone killed and gang affiliations etc.now hes a hero?look at all trumps done that everyone forgets.his town thats a shithole.his college that people lost there ass on etc.now hes the greatest guy.wow.i dont get why villians are now the rage that people adore
wnerk o anakin was a good man in the end he’s the one who brought balance to the force and redeemed himself he was never a bad man he was just conflicted he’s like zuko from avatar the last Airbender good and evil are always fighting inside of him but in the end they redeem themselves and bring balance so anakin was a good man I don’t know what ur saying also what does snoop got anything to do with this
@@wnerko7484 Revenge of the SIth was made like 15 years ago. Nobody is making Vader 'out to be a good guy' but the point in Anakin's story is that its a tragedy. Tragedy is a genre that has existed sense ancient times, and the story-line is always meant to revolve around is a good and virtuous character who falls. This is nothing new. Hamlet, Othello, King Lear are all example of tragic heroes. Anakin's fall is all the more tragic for the fact that he really did believe in the Jedi ideology and teachings at one point. He could have been the model Jedi, but various factor contributed to his fall. It wasn't just Palpatine. Even Jedi characters themselves say they were blinded by their own arrogance and pride.
Pretty crazy stuff right? The Jedi Council was pretty flawed and had their massive secrets...now we're able to understand more and more why Qui-Gon and Dooku didn't want any part of it, and why Anakin's trust faded... Part 1 - th-cam.com/video/_QLCGUc55XA/w-d-xo.html
Star Wars Theory I was reading The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader and I read that he did use force lightning on Mimban when the Kaiburr Crystal was nearby. Ps great video keep it up
What if Anakin couldn't kill the younglings? Think about it: "Anakin, now Darth Vader, ignited his lightsaber. The younglings flinched. He could not breathe, they stood no chance against him. They were not Battle Droids or the traitorous Jedi, they were children. He thought of Padmé: they were soon to have a child of their own-the thought of killing a child and alienating her was too much. It would haunt him for the rest of his life, like a shadow. He closed his eyes, thinking carefully about his next move."
What if Anakin smashed himself into a wall by accident in the pod race in episode 1 when his speeder wasn't working? "It's not wor..." *smashes into wall* *Star Wars Music comes* *Created by George Lucas*
It is not hard to see how the Clone Wars in particular changed the Jedi order. There are several episodes in the Clone War tv series where you can see this is the case, especially with Jedi apprentices. The first example is Ahsoka Tano, who obviously still being quite young is a trusted commander in the Clone Wars, you can see many times when she gets an little battle frenzied and uses methods quite the opposite of what most Jedi would use. The second, is the episode where Kit Fisto, his old Padawan and a squad of clones is trapped in Grievous's lair by Count Dooku. You can see how blood thirsty his old Padawan has become and how much hatred he holds for Grievous. The last best example I can think of is the epsiodes where the Jedi temple was bombed, you can see how the Jedi council treats it more like a witch hunt and was quite over zealous when they sentenced Ahsoka for the crime without having all the facts. It would be pretty interesting to see how the Jedi order would have turned out if the Clone wars dragged on longer than it had. It could have very well gotten to the point where the Jedi would have been demonized by the galaxy and considered to be a new Sith order by some.
Ashoka may be a good example of why you should not put kids in active combat. They may be excellent fighters on a physical level, they may even be good leaders but they are not fully prepared for the mental and psychological consequences of warfare (I think its been scientifically proven that their brains are not actually developed enough). I think as you say, the Jedi themselves were also poorly equipped and prepared to be war leaders and commanders. All out war tends to result in feelings of hatred for the enemy. In a desire to destroy them without mercy. In a way, I think TCW series adds a lot of much-needed context to Revenge of the Sith. Its a shame the former wasn't made when the latter was released.
@William Drake Not to mention Tattooine. Billions living in slavery, and bears mentioning what they did on Kalee. That's more in legends though. There were a lot of people in the Galaxy who had no love for the Republic or the Jedi, and their reasons had nothing to do with the Sith.
@William Drake The Jedi don't have jurisdiction to help those planets because they're not recognized by the republic. As a result, Qui-Gon and Obi-wan's mission on Naboo was top secret and it's also why Obi-wan went to Mandalore by himself to rescue Satine.
what i never understood is anakin turns to the dark side because the jedi have lost their way. You know, being more militant and less peace-keeping, not giving fair trials, having no mercy etc. etc. yet when he becomes vader he does the exact same things. Its always bugged me that he feels remorse for killing dooku and kills mace for not letting palpatine stand trial but vader slaughtered 100s of jedi and younglings and seperatist leaders without trial or even letting them speak.
At that point Anakin was already broken and driven mad. Anakin was a quite idealistic thinking guy. He saw the Jedi and the Republic as the force of good and order. All this started to crumble as he got older and learned more about the Republic and the Jedi. His emotions and the war played a big role in that. Basicly Anakin lost nearly everything. What do you think was Anakins view regarding the Clones? Anakin was a slave and the Clones were too. The Jedi and Republic using them. Palpatine played him the right way. Anakin wanted to do the right thing and protect that what was important to him. Padme, the Republic (peace and order) and the Jedi. Problem was that the Republic was corrupt in his eyes and the Jedi seemed to be too. During Order 66 Anakin might not be fully convinced that the Jedi were all evil but he had ne choice if he wanted to save his life, that of Padme and to end the war. He feeled remorse for everthing he did but got convinced more and more that the Jedi were bad. At a certain point there was a point of no return for him. Still he feeled bad for all the horrible things he did.
Yea the senate was corrupt, but palpatine is the senate haha. Also he slaughtered all the younglings before padme died so i dont see why he had so much rage. I know he saw the jedi as evil but the younglings were not yet jedi, they could be changed. Surely clone wars anakin could of seen this. Plus he cared about individual clones lives. It just never made sense to me how 1 minute hes fine and the next minute hes full rage berzerker just cuz mace windu wanted to kill sidious (and surely anakin whos felt force lightning 1st hand would know how darksided it is) so he goes from wanting to save an 'innocent' who is obviously evil to slaughtering dozens of children who like you said were esentially slaves. I can understand all his anger after padme dying but before? it just never clicked for me
He had remorse for what he did to Dooku and Windu because he wanted to be a proper jedi and not what he felt the council was creating. He carried out the jedi massacre for Padme NOT due to his morals. He knew what he was doing was evil that is why he cries on Mustafar, he did it because he wanted to save Padme and that was worth slaughtering people and abandoning the morals he once criticized the council for not upholding.
Please, do part 3 of this story. It's fascinating and tells us a lot about what went on with the Jedi's secrets during the war and how Vader confronts this.
The Jedi council were aware of the existence of such an order, were they not? This clone has surely been brainvashed by the rogue clone, and could be a threat to the security of our Em - Republic.
When i was watching ep 3 yesterday, i thought why does he not take him to Polis massa too? Anakin is unconcess, padme would possibly not die and maby obi wan and her could manage to get vader back to the Light? Who knows? And because theory is my favourite star wars you tuber, i am asking him to cover that topic
I wished Darth Vader lived at the end of the movie, "Return of the Jedi." I would have loved to see Darth Vader joining the Rebel Alliance and destroy the remnants of the Empire. If he helped destroy the remnants of the Empire, the First Order would not exist. Think about it.
he does live.. he was resurreced.. Darh Vader helmet proves that the burning of Vader to crisp did not take place.. it was interrupted... cleaar as day that everyone totally dismisses about the Force Awakwens... snoke speaks of vader like vader spoke of Anakin, they all one person.. Akakin/Vader/Snoke..
tacomeat666...Haha! Well-played, sir. (And, to those replying, its customary to receive bologna sandwiches with mustard in most jails/prisons....although I've never been in Gitmo, thank God). And they are awful!!!! Truly, I say unto you, the Sith should've used them as torture devices!
The amount of different story lines they could make off of this one arc is astounding. Just think of how many more plots to the Star Wars Universe they could do.
Ooh I DEFINITELY want to see a part three for this! I really like how you explain everything so concisely while still setting the scene for each video :)
Mr. Arnold these were just dark side users not just sith meaning they were taking people no matter what if they even showed a bit of dark side power Ashoka would end up there if they did not follow Jedi lock them up it more like a fucking cult
Exactly. What were they going to do? Let the Republic handle them? The Jedi stated the extent of what the prisoners were capable of and how the Republic wouldn't be able to handle them. I have no qualms with their decision.
SalsaSpartan7 true but maybe work with the Republic and like I said before they were not just taking murderers they took anyone with a bit of dark side even kids if they "have" to they did not even give them a trial
kill star Yoda said that they would give them trial once the war ended. Better than the Jedi just killing the prisoners. I agree with the Jedi's decision. Drastic times call for drastic measures. Had the Jedi collaberated with the Republic, Palpatine may have been able to influence what happened with the prisoners. I don't think that was is out of the realm of possibility. But I dunno tho.
SalsaSpartan7 still not fear I mean the war could go on for years war is war but what Jedi are doing goes beyond the law I mean if they told the Republic then it work but there doing it though lies
Playing swtor while listening to these comic videos, totally reminds me of Belsavis secret prisons holding force users either side finds to be threats.
I believe anakin really was the chosen one to end the sith because darth Vader kills the emperor and ends the sith like that. Luke was the chosen one to inspire hope and a new beginning for the Jedi
I actually believe, that luke, just lead Vader to a better path, and at least for me, to create balance in the force, both jedi and sith had to be killed, as if there is a jedi, there is a sith, they need each other to exist
These are great, you do a great job and make the comic come alive, if you just did one of these every day for the rest of the summer, I wouldn't even be mad, great job
Hey SW Theory, could u pls tell me the history of the lightsaber, Jedi and Sith ? I watched a vid on another channel about the history of Jedi n Sith but i trust ur content the most. I would really like to know the history of a Lightsaber too! Thanks !
Order 65 needed to be enacted by a full vote of the Senate Security Council, no lone being, especially a Jedi, could activate it. That would be silly. "I know, let's make it so just anybody can kill our leader during a crisis, what could happen?"
That’s really cool, just today I finished Kingdom Comr, a DC graphic novel where the superheroes are old, and the new generation of heroes are acting out so they have to build a giant gulag - rehabilitation / prison. The same theme comes up here. Definitely a moral dilemma / paradox to chew on: when you’re trying to enforce good you have to imprison people deemed bad, but that is a bad thing to do. Shades of Grey, nah the Jedi had lost their way completely, cozying up to their position of power and influence, become corrupted.
He was there when Anakin was created by his master via the Force. He absolutely knew, and saw him as a very useful tool, or a great threat, dependent on Anakin's ability to be turned.
palpatine said he could manipulate and create life he never confirmed it was plageius also in the comics and books plageius' attempt backfired when he tried to create the ultimate sith.
Great video! Definitely look forward to part three, this prison (and its possible connection to the new movies) sounds really cool. You just gained a new subscriber :)
I believe this is one of the best stories yet that has not been told. please I want more of these type of stories because this is what make Star Wars Star Wars
I'd like to comment some things: 1) I thought Vader couldn't perform force lightining because it was dangerous for him and for his suit. He could damage his breathing. 2) This story is just awesome! I cannot wait for part three! Make it happen, please! :)
I have a few theory suggestions. What if Captain Rex got promoted to commander and so had a higher rank than Cody and was under Obi-Wans command or what if Captain Rex/Cody were promoted to lord commander of all clones?
Yes! I really hope they'll bring this back into canon, not the "Darth Vader saved Palpatine" part but the scene you mentioned in this video. I do think he always suspected the Jedi believed in "the gray side" and that's why he feels so much anger towards the Jedi in Ep. 3 and why he now thinks they are evil. For years he's been told the Jedi were good, he was told to rigorously follow the Jedi doctrine, to repress his feelings and emotions, not feel any attachment and Anakin gradually begins to learn that as soon as he turned his back everyone was doing the opposite. No wonder he felt betrayed, cheated and believed people were unfair to him. From the day he spoke with Palpatine at the opera he really began to see the Jedi hypocrisy. He believed in the same justice for everyone (fair trials), he truly wanted to do good. Yes he killed the younglings, but only because he had to to strongly connect to the dark side and save Padmé. I absolutely loved the prequels but I sure wish there were more scenes like this in them, they would have been epic. Fuck the Han Solo movie, ain't nobody got time for that! But seriously I gota bad feeling about it: it won't be good, and I mean I don't think it is a necessary movie. I get it Disney wants to focus on the OT which is fair but they will completely ignore the "before Ep. 4-5-6" part of the Star Wars universe and it makes me sad. I want to see an Obi Wan movie in the years between the prequels and the OT and a Darth Vader movie during this same time period and the story is the one you talk about in the video instead. There are 2 things I think Disney doesn't realise. 1- people liked Han Solo because Harisson Ford was great in this role. If it was any other actor I don't think the character would be as loved as he is. 2- just because some people disliked the prequels it doesn't mean they can't work with the prequel era stuff and make those movies better without even having to touch any of them.
It be great to see a "What if - Ahsoka trained Luke" - He'd learn the ways of his father through her and hear fond stories similar to Obi-Wan's. He'd learn a more balanced Gray Jedi type way as we see him maybe likely want to lean towards in The Last Jedi trailer.
You can't lock up citizens in secret prisons away from public eye without a trial. Also the prison had to have been built before the clone wars so logic stands that the place does hold nonPOWs.
>You can't lock up citizens in secret prisons away from public eye without a trial. Welcome to the world outside of the US, Canada, and most of the European countries.
Star Wars theory: here is a question I would love to see your opinion on: Anikan skywalkers robes and Luke's robes in ROTJ. They are supposed to be anikans yet, they look nothing alike. What's your theory on this?
Part 3 please. And people wonder why Anakin didn't trust the jedi. You look at plenty of things cannon, legends, and movies; you can easily see why he was the way he was.
WAIT UP, HOLD DA PHONE Why Didn't scarif at the time of rogue one have royal guards protecting it, I know that Palpatine or Vader wasn't there but, THIS IS THE DEATH STAR PLANS! If the Rebels get it, it's ALL over. They should have at least put the royal guards who failed in training and sent them to protect it. There is probably Thousands Of royal guards and, Palpatine and Vader don't have them around all the time and when they do, there is around 2-5 of them. GOOD JOB PALPY
Sky knight turn out there is friendly sith who just learning the dark side and do absolutely nothing to other people except for running peaceful minning company
Are you still going to make a video about Vader's lightning? I hope so. Because I believe the lightning he used here is the power called Kinetite or restrained energy globe. He once used it against Luke Skywalker in another comic. But there is a problem. It is said in The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader that Vader could only use this power through his close proximity to a Kaiburr crystal which allowed him to summon Force energized lightning. While Pablo Hidalgo explained in Star Wars Insider Magazine, Issue 80 that "It is possible it is not even a result of a Force power at all but rather a device that Vader built into his suit." I'm confused. (Sorry for my bad english.)
Please keep it up. Your are someone who likes this as much as I do and I enjoy your channel. Never really liked the jedi much but they were good at finding talent training them and letting them slip away to darkness
@@ignistheultimate5682 Because episode 8 has the same theme. That the jedi were flawed and should no longer exist. This is literally what Star Wars is about, the rise and fall of religious-based factions/figures. Rian Johnson tries to expand on this and gets endlessly shit on.
Why are the Jedi always looked down upon, let's compare. Jedi: beaurocratic, slightly corrupt order turned war generals for the democratic republic Sith: runs oppressive authoritarian empire. Just kinda ridiculas that some could actually be morally conflicted in the light or dark side.
They weren't "slightly" corrupt. The Jedi had a nasty habit of either covering up or brushing the crimes of their members under the proverbial carpet. That included mass murder. They were like a religious cult who refused to allow their members to be handed over to the civil authorities for punishment. Nor were they simply "war generals for a Democratic Republic". They effectively became enforcers for the will of a thoroughly corrupt and amoral Republic. In the EU they are sent to side with Colonizers fighting a war against a species whose home planet they invaded and they had been enslaving. The Jedi literally backed colonizers and enslavers, and then placed sanctions on the original enslaved race leading many of them to starve to death. During the Clone Wars series, certain characters also ask why entire planets and their millions of inhabitants were abandoned and ignored simply because they were not formally part of the Republic. On Tattoonine millions were left in slavery and oppression, others were rendered virtually inhabitable by destructive internal conflicts. That was a direct result of them being lap dogs of the Republic. Democracy is a fine thing, until the will of the people demands you do something wrong.
The Council says the Jedi are defenders of peace...yet they sent Aniken out into wars all the time...I'm DEFINITELY seeing Vaders point of view more and more....
You give way too much credit to Disney by thinking that they have though about anything deeper in making the new movies beyond selling toys and promoting post modern cultural marxism.
Its not like episode 1 was geared towards kids or with episode 6 with the ewoks were geared towards kids. Promoting toys has always existed except Disney is pushing it even further.
There is no way they can throw this into a movie and make it work. It would seem so random. Well their last movie sucked it was insanely random with some worthless side mission.
Good videos my friend, I'm always pleased to hear more stories about SW. I'd like see both videos about anakin's prisoners AND vader's force lightning!
Anakin didn't ALWAYS think the Jedi were flawed he genuinely believed in them as a child and as a padawan but as he grew older he became more suspicious of the Council's true nature, considering his master was on the council and he was considered the "chosen one" it would only make sense that he spent a lot of time among them. He devoted his entire life to an ideology and creed that he truly believed in, he practically hated himself because of his actions on Tatooine knowing full well that it wasn't the Jedi way and it would forever scar him as a flawed Jedi. Though due to their questionable decisions in times of war Anakin himself grew suspicious of the council itself which was only compounded by the conferences with Chancellor Palpatine who clearly knew way more than the Jedi thought he did.
Essentially Anakin/Vader was screwed from the start and it was the Jedi that caused him to completely lose all faith in the Order. His story is truly tragic.
Bobby Bologna you almost seem like your making it sound like vader and palpatine are good.everyone now adays are twisting truth to make light of bad people and forgetting dastardly deeds theyve committed.snoop dog is now portrayed as a wholesome guy.he was involved in a drive by shooting that got someone killed and gang affiliations etc.now hes a hero?look at all trumps done that everyone forgets.his town thats a shithole.his college that people lost there ass on etc.now hes the greatest guy.wow.i dont get why villians are now the rage that people adore
wnerk o anakin was a good man in the end he’s the one who brought balance to the force and redeemed himself he was never a bad man he was just conflicted he’s like zuko from avatar the last Airbender good and evil are always fighting inside of him but in the end they redeem themselves and bring balance so anakin was a good man I don’t know what ur saying also what does snoop got anything to do with this
@@wnerko7484 Revenge of the SIth was made like 15 years ago.
Nobody is making Vader 'out to be a good guy' but the point in Anakin's story is that its a tragedy. Tragedy is a genre that has existed sense ancient times, and the story-line is always meant to revolve around is a good and virtuous character who falls. This is nothing new. Hamlet, Othello, King Lear are all example of tragic heroes.
Anakin's fall is all the more tragic for the fact that he really did believe in the Jedi ideology and teachings at one point. He could have been the model Jedi, but various factor contributed to his fall. It wasn't just Palpatine. Even Jedi characters themselves say they were blinded by their own arrogance and pride.
@@wnerko7484 wow a segway to trump how original
@@wnerko7484 weren’t we talking about Star Wars? When did this get political buddy
Why doesn't the jedi council do anything and always just send obi wan and anakin to do all the work?
Faraz lazy fucks
To be fair Windu did get out of seat to get the Sidious matter fixed personally.
They're busy getting high all the time
Sebas G Yeah that went really well. Maybe there's an argument for all that sitting.
How dare you they have thousands of important things to do like erm sit on beanbags and get high on deathsticks and erm um er I don't know.
Mace Windu: take a seat
Anakin:I'll go to the chancellor
Mace Windu :K
50 Shades of Jedi
Danko von Bismarck so does that mean Yoda "punished" them if they failed their training?
Don't roll up your eyes.
The force is strong with this one
Pretty crazy stuff right? The Jedi Council was pretty flawed and had their massive secrets...now we're able to understand more and more why Qui-Gon and Dooku didn't want any part of it, and why Anakin's trust faded...
Part 1 - th-cam.com/video/_QLCGUc55XA/w-d-xo.html
Star Wars Theory I was reading The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader and I read that he did use force lightning on Mimban when the Kaiburr Crystal was nearby. Ps great video keep it up
Star Wars Theory I hope you do a part 3
Star Wars Theory why didnt vader kill palpatine and just become the emperor?
Really interesting! It would be awesome if u did part 3!
What if Anakin couldn't kill the younglings?
Think about it: "Anakin, now Darth Vader, ignited his lightsaber. The younglings flinched. He could not breathe, they stood no chance against him. They were not Battle Droids or the traitorous Jedi, they were children. He thought of Padmé: they were soon to have a child of their own-the thought of killing a child and alienating her was too much. It would haunt him for the rest of his life, like a shadow. He closed his eyes, thinking carefully about his next move."
What if Anakin smashed himself into a wall by accident in the pod race in episode 1 when his speeder wasn't working?
"It's not wor..." *smashes into wall*
*Star Wars Music comes*
*Created by George Lucas*
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r/PrequelMemes?
Imperialx Warlord Nope
would of been a better movie
i like that.lol.and jar jar somehow was riding with him
👋You Will make a part 3...
👋you will become darth vader
Darth vader: 👋 You will like sand........
Anakin Skywalker 👋🏼 you will kill The emperor
Lmao 😂 👋🏼 you will choke your meat like you choked Padme
you will save padme
Why do I get the feeling that you will be the death of me.
*Irony*
Damn lol
I know who ill be the death of.
The Sarlacc I will.......fly out of you.........if you try to eat me.....
because he didn't have to the high ground
It is not hard to see how the Clone Wars in particular changed the Jedi order. There are several episodes in the Clone War tv series where you can see this is the case, especially with Jedi apprentices. The first example is Ahsoka Tano, who obviously still being quite young is a trusted commander in the Clone Wars, you can see many times when she gets an little battle frenzied and uses methods quite the opposite of what most Jedi would use. The second, is the episode where Kit Fisto, his old Padawan and a squad of clones is trapped in Grievous's lair by Count Dooku. You can see how blood thirsty his old Padawan has become and how much hatred he holds for Grievous. The last best example I can think of is the epsiodes where the Jedi temple was bombed, you can see how the Jedi council treats it more like a witch hunt and was quite over zealous when they sentenced Ahsoka for the crime without having all the facts. It would be pretty interesting to see how the Jedi order would have turned out if the Clone wars dragged on longer than it had. It could have very well gotten to the point where the Jedi would have been demonized by the galaxy and considered to be a new Sith order by some.
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Ashoka may be a good example of why you should not put kids in active combat. They may be excellent fighters on a physical level, they may even be good leaders but they are not fully prepared for the mental and psychological consequences of warfare (I think its been scientifically proven that their brains are not actually developed enough).
I think as you say, the Jedi themselves were also poorly equipped and prepared to be war leaders and commanders. All out war tends to result in feelings of hatred for the enemy. In a desire to destroy them without mercy. In a way, I think TCW series adds a lot of much-needed context to Revenge of the Sith. Its a shame the former wasn't made when the latter was released.
@William Drake Not to mention Tattooine. Billions living in slavery, and bears mentioning what they did on Kalee. That's more in legends though. There were a lot of people in the Galaxy who had no love for the Republic or the Jedi, and their reasons had nothing to do with the Sith.
@William Drake
The Jedi don't have jurisdiction to help those planets because they're not recognized by the republic. As a result, Qui-Gon and Obi-wan's mission on Naboo was top secret and it's also why Obi-wan went to Mandalore by himself to rescue Satine.
what i never understood is anakin turns to the dark side because the jedi have lost their way. You know, being more militant and less peace-keeping, not giving fair trials, having no mercy etc. etc. yet when he becomes vader he does the exact same things. Its always bugged me that he feels remorse for killing dooku and kills mace for not letting palpatine stand trial but vader slaughtered 100s of jedi and younglings and seperatist leaders without trial or even letting them speak.
At that point Anakin was already broken and driven mad. Anakin was a quite idealistic thinking guy. He saw the Jedi and the Republic as the force of good and order. All this started to crumble as he got older and learned more about the Republic and the Jedi. His emotions and the war played a big role in that. Basicly Anakin lost nearly everything. What do you think was Anakins view regarding the Clones? Anakin was a slave and the Clones were too. The Jedi and Republic using them. Palpatine played him the right way. Anakin wanted to do the right thing and protect that what was important to him. Padme, the Republic (peace and order) and the Jedi. Problem was that the Republic was corrupt in his eyes and the Jedi seemed to be too. During Order 66 Anakin might not be fully convinced that the Jedi were all evil but he had ne choice if he wanted to save his life, that of Padme and to end the war.
He feeled remorse for everthing he did but got convinced more and more that the Jedi were bad. At a certain point there was a point of no return for him. Still he feeled bad for all the horrible things he did.
If Ahsoka had not left there was a chance she could have aided Anakin in seeing the "gray" point-of-view as she was done in by their hypocrisy.
The best thing would have been if Obi and Ahsoka simply talked with him about Padme. That might have changed everything.
Yea the senate was corrupt, but palpatine is the senate haha. Also he slaughtered all the younglings before padme died so i dont see why he had so much rage. I know he saw the jedi as evil but the younglings were not yet jedi, they could be changed. Surely clone wars anakin could of seen this. Plus he cared about individual clones lives. It just never made sense to me how 1 minute hes fine and the next minute hes full rage berzerker just cuz mace windu wanted to kill sidious (and surely anakin whos felt force lightning 1st hand would know how darksided it is) so he goes from wanting to save an 'innocent' who is obviously evil to slaughtering dozens of children who like you said were esentially slaves. I can understand all his anger after padme dying but before? it just never clicked for me
He had remorse for what he did to Dooku and Windu because he wanted to be a proper jedi and not what he felt the council was creating. He carried out the jedi massacre for Padme NOT due to his morals. He knew what he was doing was evil that is why he cries on Mustafar, he did it because he wanted to save Padme and that was worth slaughtering people and abandoning the morals he once criticized the council for not upholding.
Please, do part 3 of this story. It's fascinating and tells us a lot about what went on with the Jedi's secrets during the war and how Vader confronts this.
Have you read the comic? Quite short, but you'd enjoy it.
What if Fives Successfully exposed Order 66 to the jedi?
No, you tell me what you would've done had you known Palpatine had been planning the annihilation of all jedi for more then a decade!
I have no idea of what you are talking about, Captain.
Innocent Sheev Palpatine *Whispers to Palpatine* He knows too much kill him.....
The Jedi council were aware of the existence of such an order, were they not?
This clone has surely been brainvashed by the rogue clone, and could be a threat to the security of our Em - Republic.
Yeah, the jedi are aware of the order, but they aren't aware of the plan behind it. Fives said you're planning to kill the jedi!
how about a "what if obi Wan took anakin to Polis massa to get him medical attention too after the duel on mustafar", darth toos?
Oh that's good @L M
L M YES
Shit I never thought of that. Would be interesting to see he it would turn out
Seriously this needs to be done.
When i was watching ep 3 yesterday, i thought why does he not take him to Polis massa too? Anakin is unconcess, padme would possibly not die and maby obi wan and her could manage to get vader back to the Light? Who knows?
And because theory is my favourite star wars you tuber, i am asking him to cover that topic
This is by far my favorite comic that you've showed us.
What if Ashoka joined Vader after their fight in rebels.
I wished Darth Vader lived at the end of the movie, "Return of the Jedi." I would have loved to see Darth Vader joining the Rebel Alliance and destroy the remnants of the Empire. If he helped destroy the remnants of the Empire, the First Order would not exist. Think about it.
Maria Batti And no TFA. Sounds like a plan!
he does live.. he was resurreced.. Darh Vader helmet proves that the burning of Vader to crisp did not take place.. it was interrupted... cleaar as day that everyone totally dismisses about the Force Awakwens... snoke speaks of vader like vader spoke of Anakin, they all one person.. Akakin/Vader/Snoke..
You sir, are incorrect. Vader is dead, we see his force ghost (in the form of anakin) in a new hope.
Nathan Parry I have wondered the same thing. Will be his apprentice once again?
That time the jedi built their own guantanamo bay.
Rmm, detain them we must. Waterboard them, we shall!
tacomeat666 Feed them extra mayo sandwiches we did.
Zack I hate mayo. Extra mayo sandwiches would be a punishment worse than waterboarding. Lol.
tacomeat666...Haha! Well-played, sir. (And, to those replying, its customary to receive bologna sandwiches with mustard in most jails/prisons....although I've never been in Gitmo, thank God). And they are awful!!!! Truly, I say unto you, the Sith should've used them as torture devices!
More like Alcatraz prison
tacomeat666 you think the jedi took degrading pictures with their balls on their heads?
The amount of different story lines they could make off of this one arc is astounding. Just think of how many more plots to the Star Wars Universe they could do.
Ooh I DEFINITELY want to see a part three for this! I really like how you explain everything so concisely while still setting the scene for each video :)
If Jango Fett killed Mace Windu
justus rude Then, Palpatine will find another jedi to trick Anakin into betraying.
That would be the best thing ever. Only because I love Jango Fett.
Manthan Shah to bad he never could
Who knows what would have happened. Maybe Anakin would not go to the Dark Side, or maybe he would go anyway. Who knows.
If Yoda went to arrest Palpatine instead of Mace Windu.
What did Sidious hate so much to be that powerfull? He always laughed or smiled when i see him.
Jaky Jones the comments on his minecraft you tube channel
His parents for calling him Sheev
Alexander Tsamourlidis destroyed
Himself
Imprisoning dangerous prisoners, that the republic probably couldn't, doesn't seem very grey to me.
Mr. Arnold these were just dark side users not just sith meaning they were taking people no matter what if they even showed a bit of dark side power Ashoka would end up there if they did not follow Jedi lock them up it more like a fucking cult
Exactly. What were they going to do? Let the Republic handle them? The Jedi stated the extent of what the prisoners were capable of and how the Republic wouldn't be able to handle them. I have no qualms with their decision.
SalsaSpartan7 true but maybe work with the Republic and like I said before they were not just taking murderers they took anyone with a bit of dark side even kids if they "have" to they did not even give them a trial
kill star Yoda said that they would give them trial once the war ended. Better than the Jedi just killing the prisoners.
I agree with the Jedi's decision. Drastic times call for drastic measures. Had the Jedi collaberated with the Republic, Palpatine may have been able to influence what happened with the prisoners. I don't think that was is out of the realm of possibility. But I dunno tho.
SalsaSpartan7 still not fear I mean the war could go on for years war is war but what Jedi are doing goes beyond the law I mean if they told the Republic then it work but there doing it though lies
Do Part 3!
Shade Gaming and how Vader could use force lightning!
Your stuff on Darth Vader is always amazing. Part 3!
Playing swtor while listening to these comic videos, totally reminds me of Belsavis secret prisons holding force users either side finds to be threats.
I believe anakin really was the chosen one to end the sith because darth Vader kills the emperor and ends the sith like that. Luke was the chosen one to inspire hope and a new beginning for the Jedi
Demn disney! You can see in Lucas's interview that there is no sequel trilogy! Only original and prequels ! It is a story of Darth Vader!
Anakinvader will always be the chosen one
I actually believe, that luke, just lead Vader to a better path, and at least for me, to create balance in the force, both jedi and sith had to be killed, as if there is a jedi, there is a sith, they need each other to exist
What if Vader returned to Tatooine and discovered Luke as his son then discovering Leia during a new hope?
I so got to start reading the comics
capsulatesauce6 how did you find them?
Weezy SV ok
makin bacon pancakes amazon has epic collections of some of the comics they're like $20 and they're around 500 pages amazing deals
makin bacon pancakes I have not found them yet sadly I live in the Netherlands comics arent really big here at all as far as i know
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PLEASE do a part 3!! This story is fantastic. Really hope Disney pulls some of it out of legends. Your storytelling makes it even better though!
These are great, you do a great job and make the comic come alive, if you just did one of these every day for the rest of the summer, I wouldn't even be mad, great job
This is not the droid ur looking for
Darth Vader No its not
Darth Vader move along
Darth Vader U won my lord...
Hmm I don't like being portrayed so weak. Boba? I have a job for you
when did emperor palpatine have a clone
Emperor Palpitine DEW IT!!
Darth vader I never told you did I, wait are you a force ghost?
You Spelled your name wrong... IMPOSTER!
LockTest Vader you must eliminate this "LockTest"
he found the secret by telling Yoda he would fuck him up if he didnt tell him..
Yoda began to speak backwards and talk in riddles
Michael Edwards
Lmao
Best series of videos, keeping me on the edge of my seat. I had no idea about any of this!
0:26 *"Dont mess with the man in black!"* xD
make part 3. DEW IT!!!!
Hey SW Theory, could u pls tell me the history of the lightsaber, Jedi and Sith ? I watched a vid on another channel about the history of Jedi n Sith but i trust ur content the most. I would really like to know the history of a Lightsaber too! Thanks !
What if mace windu executed order 65 when he was blasted out the window
Order 65 needed to be enacted by a full vote of the Senate Security Council, no lone being, especially a Jedi, could activate it. That would be silly. "I know, let's make it so just anybody can kill our leader during a crisis, what could happen?"
Mace Windy seems like a loose end, to me. We see him blasted out the window, but we don't actually see him die.
I JUST HOPE THEY DO A LEGENDS SPIN OFF AND BRING SOME OF THESE STORIES HAVE A LIVE PERFORMANCE..
I gotta say I love your channel!!! Everyday I get home from work and sit down and relax and watch your videos! Keep up the amazing job!!
DO IT! Give us the third part!
Mace Windu- Take a seat young Skywalker
Anakin- picks up a seat* see y'all in Order 66.
I need part 3,4 and 5 and post credits scene
Frick this story is so good, loved the videos on this story so far. A part 3 would be great!
Best star wars\harry potter\marvel youtuber EVER you are!!!! Thank you SO SO SO SO much and your diligence and loyalty to the fandom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That’s really cool, just today I finished Kingdom Comr, a DC graphic novel where the superheroes are old, and the new generation of heroes are acting out so they have to build a giant gulag - rehabilitation / prison. The same theme comes up here.
Definitely a moral dilemma / paradox to chew on: when you’re trying to enforce good you have to imprison people deemed bad, but that is a bad thing to do.
Shades of Grey, nah the Jedi had lost their way completely, cozying up to their position of power and influence, become corrupted.
Oh so it's a council now? Not just the two of you?
Nuno Armond lolol
"Whooo can't use the Force, now? I can still use the Force!"
Is anyone realizing that I'm talking? ;-;
Did Palpatine sense that Anakin/Darth Vader was the chosen one?
He was there when Anakin was created by his master via the Force. He absolutely knew, and saw him as a very useful tool, or a great threat, dependent on Anakin's ability to be turned.
Jonathan Stuart it's not confirmed that plagueis created anakin
Endix, do you have a question?
It actually was confirmed in revenge of the sith
palpatine said he could manipulate and create life he never confirmed it was plageius also in the comics and books plageius' attempt backfired when he tried to create the ultimate sith.
This is the best Star Wars channel, you tell it straight while everyone else won't call out the obvious logical flaws.
Great video! Definitely look forward to part three, this prison (and its possible connection to the new movies) sounds really cool. You just gained a new subscriber :)
PART 3 PLEASE SIR
So Ahsoka made the best choice by leaving the Jedi order but not joining Sith like Anakin did.
what if general grievous had the force
Kenobi would´ve died
Sebas G you must be fun in party's
Depends on the type of party in question
got confused in 4:13
I believe this is one of the best stories yet that has not been told. please I want more of these type of stories because this is what make Star Wars Star Wars
I'd like to comment some things:
1) I thought Vader couldn't perform force lightining because it was dangerous for him and for his suit. He could damage his breathing.
2) This story is just awesome! I cannot wait for part three! Make it happen, please! :)
I have a few theory suggestions. What if Captain Rex got promoted to commander and so had a higher rank than Cody and was under Obi-Wans command or what if Captain Rex/Cody were promoted to lord commander of all clones?
Cody was a Commander m8
Part 3, master,part 3!
Well........I guess Ani was right at the end of 3
"In my eyes, the Jedi are evil!"
KrispyNoKen so Anakin was the good guy after all a hero Sith.
Bring part 3! I'm so excited for it! Can't wait to see it and I hope that this happens in ep 8
Yes! I really hope they'll bring this back into canon, not the "Darth Vader saved Palpatine" part but the scene you mentioned in this video. I do think he always suspected the Jedi believed in "the gray side" and that's why he feels so much anger towards the Jedi in Ep. 3 and why he now thinks they are evil. For years he's been told the Jedi were good, he was told to rigorously follow the Jedi doctrine, to repress his feelings and emotions, not feel any attachment and Anakin gradually begins to learn that as soon as he turned his back everyone was doing the opposite. No wonder he felt betrayed, cheated and believed people were unfair to him. From the day he spoke with Palpatine at the opera he really began to see the Jedi hypocrisy. He believed in the same justice for everyone (fair trials), he truly wanted to do good. Yes he killed the younglings, but only because he had to to strongly connect to the dark side and save Padmé. I absolutely loved the prequels but I sure wish there were more scenes like this in them, they would have been epic.
Fuck the Han Solo movie, ain't nobody got time for that! But seriously I gota bad feeling about it: it won't be good, and I mean I don't think it is a necessary movie. I get it Disney wants to focus on the OT which is fair but they will completely ignore the "before Ep. 4-5-6" part of the Star Wars universe and it makes me sad. I want to see an Obi Wan movie in the years between the prequels and the OT and a Darth Vader movie during this same time period and the story is the one you talk about in the video instead.
There are 2 things I think Disney doesn't realise. 1- people liked Han Solo because Harisson Ford was great in this role. If it was any other actor I don't think the character would be as loved as he is. 2- just because some people disliked the prequels it doesn't mean they can't work with the prequel era stuff and make those movies better without even having to touch any of them.
What if Palpatine killed Vader before Vader picked him up?
Plz do part 3
Please do a part 3!
It be great to see a "What if - Ahsoka trained Luke" - He'd learn the ways of his father through her and hear fond stories similar to Obi-Wan's. He'd learn a more balanced Gray Jedi type way as we see him maybe likely want to lean towards in The Last Jedi trailer.
I hit like and now would like to see the rest of this.Keep up the good work. Your video's rock.
What if sand was the chosen one?
Elite Trooper 51 Anakin would have killed him like an animal
ShadoSnakeGames And not just the men, but the women and children.
Weird why wasn't Anakin Skywalker named Anakin sandwalker lelele!
Elite Trooper 51 LoL
Lol 😂 that would of made star wars more interesting
So palpatine was right to destroy the Jedi order. From a legal perspective.
From a certain point of view...
just the council the rest of the jedi didn't know (some of them would most likely leave the order if they learned about it)
You can't lock up citizens in secret prisons away from public eye without a trial. Also the prison had to have been built before the clone wars so logic stands that the place does hold nonPOWs.
>You can't lock up citizens in secret prisons away from public eye without a trial.
Welcome to the world outside of the US, Canada, and most of the European countries.
just see tampico :P
Star Wars theory: here is a question I would love to see your opinion on:
Anikan skywalkers robes and Luke's robes in ROTJ.
They are supposed to be anikans yet, they look nothing alike. What's your theory on this?
Part 3 please. And people wonder why Anakin didn't trust the jedi. You look at plenty of things cannon, legends, and movies; you can easily see why he was the way he was.
It's awesome how he goes back to the jedi temple as a different person. History and flashbacks. Old council members.
WAIT UP,
HOLD DA PHONE
Why Didn't scarif at the time of rogue one have royal guards protecting it,
I know that Palpatine or Vader wasn't there but,
THIS IS THE DEATH STAR PLANS!
If the Rebels get it, it's ALL over.
They should have at least put the royal guards who failed in training and sent them to protect it.
There is probably Thousands Of royal guards and, Palpatine and Vader don't have them around all the time and when they do, there is around 2-5 of them.
GOOD JOB PALPY
Opti3cGaming Channel
The red royal guards are only around vader and palpatine
Opti3cGaming Channel
And I think there were only a handfull
Dan They are only around Palpatine
What if anakin went to the dark side
Bill OFFICIAL On his own, like without prompting from Palpatine?
wot
Never clicked on a video faster.
Well I would love to see C-3PO remembering his old memories
Yes explain how he fought the old prisoners of war!
explain how do you live?
He told you already, He became more powerful then you can possibly imagine
Hello there.
CT-5555 i don't like sand
HAZPLAYZ thankfully there is! :)
Heck yeah I want to see a part 3. This is flipping awesome bro.
what if some of the prisoners are some of knights of ren maybe
Sky knight turn out there is friendly sith who just learning the dark side and do absolutely nothing to other people except for running peaceful minning company
Are you still going to make a video about Vader's lightning? I hope so. Because I believe the lightning he used here is the power called Kinetite or restrained energy globe. He once used it against Luke Skywalker in another comic. But there is a problem. It is said in The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader that Vader could only use this power through his close proximity to a Kaiburr crystal which allowed him to summon Force energized lightning. While Pablo Hidalgo explained in Star Wars Insider Magazine, Issue 80 that "It is possible it is not even a result of a Force power at all but rather a device that Vader built into his suit." I'm confused. (Sorry for my bad english.)
That wasn't lightning it was gas.
Vader can use force Lightning.
I think it's just insulting to imprison some one in a place named Diab (Dab)
why do you have to think in that dumb meme way? Diab (Diablo)
I never understood dabs, just saying, it's insulting to live imprisoned somewhere that almost sounds like a meme
please do a part 3, really enjoying this
Please keep it up. Your are someone who likes this as much as I do and I enjoy your channel. Never really liked the jedi much but they were good at finding talent training them and letting them slip away to darkness
Well after seeing Ep.8, this has nothing to do with it :(
I don't know why he hyped it up like that. This is a Legends story and there was nothing hinting that it might've had something to do with Episode 8.
@@ignistheultimate5682 Because episode 8 has the same theme. That the jedi were flawed and should no longer exist. This is literally what Star Wars is about, the rise and fall of religious-based factions/figures. Rian Johnson tries to expand on this and gets endlessly shit on.
Could anyone tell me what is the soundtrack in the end of the video?
What songs do you use throughout the video?
Galactic Battles 1 - Johannes Bornlöf - Epidemic Sound ;)
Awesome video man and one of your best! Disney needs to make a movie about Darth Vader and to detail these scenes.
Love the little detail at 1:53
The Jedi screwed Anakin over
Why are the Jedi always looked down upon, let's compare.
Jedi: beaurocratic, slightly corrupt order turned war generals for the democratic republic
Sith: runs oppressive authoritarian empire. Just kinda ridiculas that some could actually be morally conflicted in the light or dark side.
They weren't "slightly" corrupt. The Jedi had a nasty habit of either covering up or brushing the crimes of their members under the proverbial carpet. That included mass murder. They were like a religious cult who refused to allow their members to be handed over to the civil authorities for punishment.
Nor were they simply "war generals for a Democratic Republic". They effectively became enforcers for the will of a thoroughly corrupt and amoral Republic. In the EU they are sent to side with Colonizers fighting a war against a species whose home planet they invaded and they had been enslaving. The Jedi literally backed colonizers and enslavers, and then placed sanctions on the original enslaved race leading many of them to starve to death.
During the Clone Wars series, certain characters also ask why entire planets and their millions of inhabitants were abandoned and ignored simply because they were not formally part of the Republic. On Tattoonine millions were left in slavery and oppression, others were rendered virtually inhabitable by destructive internal conflicts.
That was a direct result of them being lap dogs of the Republic. Democracy is a fine thing, until the will of the people demands you do something wrong.
yayyy team notif
Captain'Passoire yee
The Council says the Jedi are defenders of peace...yet they sent Aniken out into wars all the time...I'm DEFINITELY seeing Vaders point of view more and more....
Brooooooooo make a continued video plz hell yes this is what I needed
Hello There.....
Bill OFFICIAL Hmm you don't look like Master Kenobi.
Pppaaarrrtttt 3 pls
You give way too much credit to Disney by thinking that they have though about anything deeper in making the new movies beyond selling toys and promoting post modern cultural marxism.
Its not like episode 1 was geared towards kids or with episode 6 with the ewoks were geared towards kids. Promoting toys has always existed except Disney is pushing it even further.
There is no way they can throw this into a movie and make it work. It would seem so random. Well their last movie sucked it was insanely random with some worthless side mission.
Good videos my friend, I'm always pleased to hear more stories about SW. I'd like see both videos about anakin's prisoners AND vader's force lightning!
YES YES YES ON A PART 3. I'M HOOKED....i need to start looking into these comics. another great video!
Plz do part 3
Also this isn't canon is it?
Domnul L yeah but nobody cares
Domnul L cool
What if I didn't write this comment
alapnes IT'S A PARADOX !!!!
I wouldn't have wasted 3 seconds.
What if I didn’t write my response?
anyone see this after ep 8
Angelo Vitallo yes
Angelo Vitallo Yes
This channel isn't even about theories its just reading comic books that im to lazy to buy...i love it
Obi Wan said "Only a Sith deals in absolutes"...