Watch -- eBay Shill Bidding Caught!!
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ส.ค. 2024
- Watch -- eBay Shill Bidding Caught!!
Don't forget about our giveaways. We are doing them more often now, and all it takes is to be a subscriber, liking the video, and making a comment.
Make sure you subscribe to the channel.
Popular Videos:
BGS Submission: • BGS (Beckett) Submissi...
Opening the New 2019-20 Prizm Basketball Retail Box: • Opening the New 2019-2...
2018 Flawless Collegiate with a 1/1 Baker Mayfield:
• 2018 Flawless Collegia...
Mail Address:
The UPS Store c/o Jason Findish
1811 N Dixie Ave #104
Elizabethtown, KY 42701
Who do I collect:
Roberto Clemente
Michael Jordan
Nolan Ryan
Sidney Crosby
Vintage Cards
Website: www.extremecardbreaks.com
Facebook Group: / extremecardbreaks
Facebook Business Page: www.facebook.c...
Website: www.extremecard...
Email: eXtremeCardBreaks@gmail.com
Facebook Group for Break Spots: / 704493262989005
Twitter: / extremecardbrks
Instagram: / extremecardbreaks
Ebay Store: stores.ebay.com...
Music from TH-cam Free Library - Move Out
Music from TH-cam Free Library - Eyes of Glory
![[UNCUT]"ทักษิณ" โชว์ฤทธิ์-ครอบครอง "อุ๊งอิ๊ง" ประเทศไทยมีนายกฯ 1แถม1 I คนดังนั่งเคลียร์ I 23 ส.ค.67](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Uyl4y59R-Sk/mqdefault.jpg)
Sorry about the background buzzing, I thought it was eliminated upon watching it. Guess the suppression didn't transfer over to eBay. I will figure it out.
I know im asking randomly but does any of you know of a tool to get back into an instagram account..?
I was stupid lost the login password. I would appreciate any help you can give me!
@Ignacio Ibrahim Instablaster :)
@Zachariah Wade I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and Im in the hacking process now.
Seems to take a while so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Zachariah Wade It did the trick and I now got access to my account again. Im so happy!
Thanks so much you really help me out!
@Ignacio Ibrahim no problem :D
The Internet invention, many years ago, has given us a lot of great things......But I'd give it all back for Baseball Card Shops, Blockbuster Video, and Beepers instead of Cell phones.
lol beepers....wow I remember having to get one while I was on alert status for the Army. All the cool people had them as we use to say lol.
Amen
The only thing great about the internet was the easy access to porn 🤣
My have the times changed
If you're a new seller with low feedback, you can sell items to yourself and rackup you're feedback.
And Mark them as dispatched without sending anything. List items for £1, and pay ebay 10p in fees,
If you have the capital, you can become a top rated seller on ebay without doing anything,and have the best feedback score, with no returns.
Hmmmmm, never really thought about that approach.
Thank you. It seems it is all over.
I am hoping so, but I did find a few more on eBay now that I will show this week.
Ebay has a broken system, with loopholes
That they do.
not just ebay, most every auction shill bidding
As of 6/17/21, he is still doing it.
Doesn't surprise me. I know this person had 2 different accounts they were using to shill bid with too.
ebay doesnt give 2 shits as they make their fees
Get the word out so we know who to avoid. You’re doing a good job man!
Thank you. Have a good week.
I want in on the contest
There will be a video put out once UPS decides to deliver to me.
Now I believe people is doing that because I did on a card that was 99cent then it went to one thousand dollars
Very well could have been. Never know, or it was people trying to snipe it last minute
I’m trying to look into a bidder on an active item, and it doesn’t allow me to see other items they’ve bid on. Just the one I’m interested. I’m suspicious it’s them though
it won't allow you to do that, but it will show how many other items they are bidding on and with the same seller too.
Where can I see that?
You were correct in the other video when you stated that eBay just wants their money, which is why schemes like this will probably continue. It's great that you laid this out so consumers can see this crap and be on the alert for it. I've had all this happen to me and it is more than frustrating and very unethical. If I get screwed once, I'm done with the seller or even buyer in some instances. GREAT video. Keep up the awesomeness!
Thank you for watching the video. I wanted to bring more awareness this year to everyone of things I have learned or been taught. Have a good week.
Need............ Anti Shill Bidding Law
That would be a good law
if you win your own auction ebay charges you fees so you still lose
Wow so sketchy
It is, and there is alot to learn to learn with catching it.
This is why I have stopped going for auctions, and just "buy it now" sales. This has been a issue for years. It was easier to spot when they used to show the names. I think eBay started hiding the name to keep from getting all the reporting and complaining about this kind of stuff.
I mostly do too unless it is a rare PC card. Then I will try but usually never win.
Thanks for the eye-opener and all who contributed to pointing out these scammers! They're giving the hobby a bad name! Ebay NEEDS to DO THEIR JOB!👍
Thank you for watching the video. Alot of the videos are from people catching these scammers that inform me of them, and the people giving me the info want to bring it to everyone's attention. It shows that their are alot of collectors who want to share the information and care about the hobby. Have a good week.
i have like 6-8 feedback.. i bid dont think im doing this.
There is exceptions with the low feedback. I covered it one of the videos, but I wanted to everyone to see how to check for it with when someone is bidding away at high rates all on one seller along with the bid retractions.
I think your just paranoid 🤣🤣 I'm just playing 😀 I seen a guy on eBay with an item for posted for 0.99 and 2 days later he's up to 300.00 smh .
lol. Yeah I have seen so much going on with eBay this past year or so, that I just quit.
Reminds me of every experience I have had bidding on probstein and pwcc auctions
Oh yes!! PWCC blocks on the bidder identities, that is why I don't use them at all.
Ain’t that the yeuth
I stay away from those 2. They also take forever to ship.
You call out the major players and they typically have the top dollar sales on big cards when you search to see what a PSA 10 is going for they typically are there. Makes me wonder if the the sale even happened.
@@krisdobyns6317 Very True.
How can you say that they are shill bidding?if they have few feedbacks on their account?How about me, I have only 10 feedbacks,does that mean if I bid, I am automatically shill bidding?I bid high always that’s why I get the cards
There is more to it than that which was explained in videos. You have to see the amount they bid on the person's auctions, but take in account if they are a breaker for example, that it is just a follower.
I stop biding on cards because of this i would bid and know one has then i get out bid because of this now i just buy cards now im having trouble buy card of rp to find witch ones are real
That is the issues I have with shill bidding and reprints online. I started just buying raw cards from card shows.
This was a great Vid . Thanks for info . You will save a lot of people money . I smashed the like and rang the bell POW 👊
Thank you. I wasn't too sure when I started these videos how everyone would feel. I am glad to see the positive feedback on doing these. Thank you for watching and subscribing. Have a good week.
Thanks for making these videos, helps out us newbies
Thank you for watching the videos. Have a good week.
i think this happen to me yesterday bid was at 30$ and me and this other guy where bidding on a card he stop at 72 with 3 minutes left must got what he wanted for the card
It could have been. Sometimes it is hard to judge but look into the bidding and click on the name.
@@eXtremeCardBreaks okay thanks I will do that next time
@@hayden454 It takes a bit to use to doing, but you will start seeing alot more and being able to pick them out quicker too.
Lol. So many cards I want to purchase from eBay but I’m so so damn gun shy from all the corruption. Knowledge is the key. Thanks for the info!
I mostly buy from people I know or go to a show to where I can see the card. Thank you for watching the video.
This is why I usually don't buy anything on bidding formats unless it's a hard card to find or if I feel like I'm getting a great deal.
I also have over 2000 cards posted on eBay at any given time, I almost never do auctions. One because you can end up losing big time. Two, I don't have deal with stuff like this.
Great stuff though. Keep up with the great content.
I normally only sale as buy it now. Auctions can go either way, it is a risk. Normally if I am bidding, it is a limited card that I want just like you said.
Thank you for the full disclosure. Transparency is critical in this business/hobby
Keep at it, Thank you for posting this. THUMBS UP! We love the channel from us here at The Card Shop in Bastrop, Louisiana! We appreciate your hard work and effort!
Thank you very much. Have a good week.
What sucks more is that eBay don't mind it. Makes them more money so they're not in a hurry to police it.
Yep, my exact thoughts on this. This is why I will be moving to BST marketplace once he launches.
What is this BST marketplace you speak of?
@@nickelhead89 It suppose to be active in about two weeks. www.bstsportcards.com/
@@eXtremeCardBreaks Thank You!
Fuckin flippers and auction manipulators ruin the hobby... I guess there’s scumbags in every area of life.....
Get to the facts Detective Butters
There is so much going on anymore with this stuff. You know most of the info I have posted already, but with all the new people coming in or back into the hobby, they are unaware of this. We have known each other for a bit, what do you think about posting stuff like to show others the tools we have used for awhile?
great video! Lots of new collectors and investors coming in, important they understand the shill game
Thank you. Yes they do need to get the knowledge on this, and honestly not many people talk about it with a large population. I am hoping these videos will help.
Happened here too, I was selling a metal detector years ago when someone bid more then it was worth early on. Needless to say no one else bid on it for the next few days. 5 minutes before the end of the auction their bid was retracted. So the first bidder was all of a sudden the high bidder. I had to move fast and had a friend outbid the current high bidder. No way could I let the detector go for a quarter of its value. Works both ways if you pay attention.
I am sorry to hear this happened to you, and I would have probably done the same thing if I caught someone trying to scam me as well.
Thanks for the vid! I thought Ebay took care of this problem years ago. Shame on them!
They did, then they got more lenient as money came pouring in their pockets in my opinion.
eXtreme Card Breaks yep 20% or more now. Imagine how much they make on PWCC..2,3 4 hundred K cards. They don’t give a hoot
Great information to help us out there on Ebay! Keep these videos coming. Thanks for sharing. Take care and be safe!
Thank you. Have a good week.
There is a seller on eBay who goes by the seller name gregorydean1984 who is possibly schill bidding his items would you look into this he was on Facebook bragging about using another account to get a lot of 1996-97 topps rookies which is now at 14,000 plus which if you look at the lot those would never get to where the price is currently. Please look into this
can you email me a screen shot of the post just so I can see what all was said by him. I see the item on eBay, and honestly a good chunk of the bids look off to me. My email is in the video description. Thanks.
@@eXtremeCardBreaks just emailed you the screen shots
@@lucianosantoro3884 Got them, thank you. I did some research to make sure they are the same. Even though his location is different on a few platforms it is him. I will get a video out on this Thursday since that auction ends on Thursday. It will take a bit to get it all put together. Thank you for the email and information.
More good work. Happy 3000 subs!
Thank you.
Happy 3K, on to 4! I've watched several of your videos in the past week or two, I had to comment on this one though! It amazes me, in that one shill example that you showed, with the bid retraction and then the rebid right at $99, the exact amount of the other high bid for that Kyle Lewis card. He pushed it right to the max, he could have done $97.85 or something like that, he had to squeeze every penny out of that auction possible, what a loser, keep up the great work.
Thank you for watching the videos. Yes, he could have done it that way, but he knew what the high the bid was and wanted to get every last penny out of it. There are people out there who think they won't ever get caught too, until they do.
Did they remove bid percentages? I'm trying on mobile so maybe it's only on a pc.
I am not too sure about mobile, but I still see them on pc.
@@eXtremeCardBreaks It must be only on a pc, you can’t click there name on mobile. I just won an auction and someone bid that had there feedback private. Is that a shill bidder? I’ve never seen private feedback.
@@indcsion the seller can opt have bids private
@@eXtremeCardBreaks The bids aren’t private just one bidder has his feedback number private.
@@indcsion oh I see. Yeah I know a lot to who do that option. No idea why
Little do we know that 14 feedback guy is really just terrible at winning auctions 😂
LOL
ALL biders on ebay were at 14 feedback once. Maybe he just keeps biding on the same thing to win🤔. May someone new and just trying to figure out these biding wars. Someone new can get caught up on the cost of things as it's just a click to bid without actually dealing with cash and may have to retract a bid or two.
@@imperfectgamer54, I've researched bidders with over 500 retractions (pretty risky way to learn, maybe you'd like to sit at the poler table with me). 14 feedback guy does NOT want to win these. He/she simply is around to raise the price so they don't have to sell at a lower than wished for price.
@@bradosley7716 I understand what you're saying but, if a sellers worried about not getting his wish price on an item. He can set a reserve price on the bids.
Another great job. Love the info
Thank you. Have a good day.
Shadiness. There is one popular breaker that hides their bidding info which I know longer even bother with anymore for these reasons.
I would stay far away from him just for that reason.
I know it's not very honorable, but I had an arch nemesis who could (and always did) waaaay outspend me on a niche product we both collected, so when those particular cards showed up on eBay, I used to carefully bid him up to his maximum in an attempt to get him to spend way more money than he probably wanted to. The goal was to get him to back down every so often so that I stood a chance at winning once in a while. I think it worked because his max started to decrease and I was able to win some stuff I know he needed. Plus the seller's enjoyed a nice bump in profit without even realizing what was going on. Again, I know it's not honorable but some people have way more disposable income than others, and I refused to be priced out of something I loved, so I employed the tactics I had to.
LOL that is a good tactic
There are a ring of people who do something similar to that in foreclosure auctions. It's called bid rigging and it's a federal crime with felony charges. The bidders who dominate the purchases basically try to scare the new buyers from bidding, so they bid up the property for sale if someone else starts bidding against them. They're willing to pay more than needed to scare off people and make them never want to come back so they have more control. It's also called "cornering the market."
top shelf vid as usual
Thank you. Have a good week.
Look at the times on the bids, might help to show if they are retracting thier bids. See how close they are
Very good point.
@@eXtremeCardBreaks glad to help. I very much dislike thieves, and thats what this is. Thanks for the videos
Part of the reason I never, ever max bid prior to the final seconds of the auction. That's not the main reason I do this, but one of the reasons.
I can understand that reason for sure. I usually place my bid under 10 secs left lol
I learned that this good information isn't available on the eBay mobile app for Android. I use my phone for almost all my eBay buying and selling. I will definitely have to start using my laptop more often with the full eBay display. The phone app is great, I take the photos and create my listings, but it is very streamlined. It doesn't have all the features and information that are available in the full eBay platform. ✌️
Thank you for letting me know this, I don't use the phone app at all, I just use my computer. I will try to remember to mention this in my next video with shill bidding.
Rando, you can open ebay on your phones browser and see the same stuff as you would on your laptop. You may have to choose "show desktop site" under options in your browser settings.
@@eric-ol8bp thanks 👍 good to know
Thanks for sharing! 🙏💯🤙👍💪
Thank you for watching.
Look at bids and if you see someone with 0 feedback or not to raise the value I check, it happens
That is the first thing I do, I look at the bid history, but I also look at percentages that people bid on with one person.
Zero - The only issue with that, is that I've been buying things off of ebay since probably 1997. I somehow got my account hacked and had to close it down. After haggling with Ebay (who's actual customer service sucks - and who told me to create a new account), I now have (4) feedbacks. So, it makes me look like a brand new customer, which I clearly am not.
@@TheSpud1129 That is understandable completely on that. I always gave everyone a shot when I ran auctions on there. I have a huge blocked list though too lol
I have taken a break from selling because shill bidding is rampant. High price items get bid way way up by accounts with 1 feedback score and never paid. Has happened too much lately.
If I was still putting items on eBay, I would just use BIN. I still have stuff up that way, but I won't do auctions currently.
great info
Thank you. Have a good week.
This just happened to me, was bidding ona hobby case, the last one sold for like 5,000 flat, and this one I was following was at 1500 with 4 days left. The next day it was up to 5,600 with 3 days left
It happens alot on eBay.
I just tried to search him and it wouldn't come up.
www.ebay.com/usr/bensbaseballcards
@@eXtremeCardBreaks thought maybe you got him shutdown.
i'm always leery of the deal when i win by a bid retraction
That makes two of us.
Hi how's it going? Can you take a look at "no worries" breaker? His listings just seem sketchy and now has one that won't be livestreamed.
Thanks
Is this on eBay? If so, can you give me the ebay username exactly. Thanks.
Looks like that Soto/Acuna is still there....time to sell it to me 😁✌🏼⚾️
LOL everyone wants that card. I was going to send it off to BGS till they raised their prices last week. Now it will go out to PSA in my next batch.
Don't worry folks I let Joey bag of Donuts know about these Grifters! All kidding aside, people are feed up with all these scumbags! I am holding on to every 40s,50s,60s,70s,Baseball and Football cards. My advice to you and everyone here, Set a price that you want to spend and not a penny more. That's How you don't get Grifted! Ebay is History, I don't see them lasting in the next 10 years. Great video my friend. Your a good man my friend.
Thank you. BST is starting a marketplace and I will be on there instead of eBay once he launches. I would rather deal with someone with knowledge on all this than someone who is making $10 an hour and don't care.
Does a person have the ability to report suspected fraud? I don't think the selling platforms have any interest in stopping it.
You can, but there has to be a solid case and the over value of the item is the piece. Each state has their own criteria on the level of value. Some are proactive in chasing this down, others just logged it in and that is it.
There's just too many scammers on Ebay for them to care about this sort of thing. Imagine you run Ebay with tens of thousands of gold listings, car listings each day. Knowing full well at least 5% of them will be some form of scam.
Would it even make sense for them to be motivated at low priced baseball cards? Things like this is, it's gonna be up to *us* to police. IMO Ebay has a million "problems" that would be addressed first....before tackling broke, unemployed losers who bid up a rediculous, superficial David Ortiz card.
I think eBay ignores it cuz as long as the sale goes through, they are making money, and the value is apparently there. I think one would have to consistently have items cancel and not close before eBay took notice and did something to the seller.
@@carsyncruz I think depending on the volume the seller does, could be true. I honestly don't think they will do much since they make a ton of off sports cards. It is a higher percentage for fees than currency and stamps. Well atleast it was, not too sure on this new payment method if they changed that or not. I don't sell much on there anymore.
What about a seller putting a hidden reserve on it? Is that looked down upon? Or should someone just put the starting price at the minimum amount they would accept? Just getting into eBay and I am still learning.
I can understand the hidden reserve honestly, and they should in my opinion start the auction off where their reserve would be. It really isn't look down upon as hiding the bidders.
@@eXtremeCardBreaks thank you for the reply. It was very helpful
Putting a reserve on it costs more $$ from your sale. As I stated before just list it BIN right around what other people sold it for. If you sell your items at a reasonable price with free ship it will go. I get it people want to make $ but list it at a fair price
A few people should email this guy and tell him "we're onto your scam. Better stop or we'll report you." Just the scare factor may stop it.
One person has already that brought the information to me originally. The guy played stupid then went on another account and continued shill bidding his stuff up. Looks like he has a few accounts.
More people should pile on!! doesn't take a minute to send email. Love what you do man, exposing all the scams... really helping us buyers out here! @@eXtremeCardBreaks
@@shotdowninflames3466 Thank you. I will do my best as I see them or get notified of them.
@@eXtremeCardBreaks I tried to find bensbaseballcards as seller, can't find. Maybe got booted
@@shotdowninflames3466 www.ebay.com/usr/bensbaseballcards?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
I do understand why charity wants to have maximum what them could squeeze out of you,but why instead of artificial price gauging not to put reserve price? nonsense! Give me some thoughts on this,please?!
If I recall correct, the reserve price costs money and they don't want to spend that couple of dollars I guess.
Scumbags in #thehobby need to go
I was trying to sell my car on eBay a while back and some asshole was harassing the crap out of me saying that I was doing this to people. Long story short... I wasn't doing anything wrong. I was so pissed at this guy. He wouldn't leave me alone. What ever. Its all good. I still have the car a few years later.
I am sorry to hear someone did that to you. Did you block them on eBay to where they couldn't respond or see your item anymore?
@@eXtremeCardBreaks didn't even know I could do that. I will look into that next time.
Pro tip any feedback under 13 is a dead give away
In some cases. When I was a breaker and using eBay to auction unsold teams, I had guys under 40 feedback who never really bought off eBay get teams that missed them in the store. But yes, I do agree low feedback is a warning sign. I know younger people who may start using eBay, but most are someone's alt account or family member they made up.
@@eXtremeCardBreaks yesssir
Emu touched my area!
lol that darn Emu.
This is very ignorant by Ben's Baseball Cards. If he plans on staying in the industry he is destroying his own fan base. If you go to an LCS and buy packs and never get anything you're not going to continue to shop at a place that searches their product. As an owner you will profit more by being honest.
There is a reason we have the option of "Buy it Now" or "Auction." If one expects to get no less than say $50 for a lot then post it at Buy it Now at $55 or $60 with minimum offer price but when you play games like shilling you are just screwing yourself. If you buy what's cold and sell what's hot then the market will take care of market value naturally. Shill bidding is not necessarily a criminal act but integrity is equally important.
This is well spoken and very true.
There been doing it for year
Yes they have been doing this for awhile when I went back and looked
I only know one person that got their account suspended for doing this and it was cars that they were running up. I'm not sure eBay really even cares anymore. Plus they allow you to have multiple eBay accounts not like in the old days when one person could only have one account. Nowadays you have to have multiple accounts to avoid all the new rules new selling accounts don't have to follow the same rules
That is what I have been thinking as well.
Ebay doesn't care because it makes them more money. The higher the item sells the better, they get a sweet cut in fees everytime. Ebay seriously needs competition.
No lie I literally think just about everything I ever bidded on dang near had shill bidding going on. They all go the same where never fails someone is trying to out bid me ect ect doesn't matter what card the price goes wayyyy up.
Sorry to hear that. With the market going up the past year, it has gotten worse.
As someone who bids on hundreds of cards a week I stay far away from the big consigners specifically Probstein123 and PWCC. When you buy as much as I do these shill bidders are easy to spot. Just do your research and set a buy limit, Don't get caught in the bidding.
Very good advice.
Yes I always bid on what I’m willing to pay max for it and not get into a bidding war. And if you don’t get it makes them do more work to try and resell it.
@@michaelmora Yeah, Just do your research before hand checking recent sales, Current prices and stay the course and dont over pay. I'll usually just drop my max price 5 sec before end. Win or lose just move onto next item.
@@michaelmora very rarely will I, unless it is a once in a blue moon pc card.
personally if i even do an auction style sell on my ebay i wont even list it for less than i want for it. also, if your bidding on an item dont do a max bid for more than you think the card is worth hahaha i can see why its really unfair for an auction if youre looking to get a 100$ card for 30$ but if youre placing a max bid on something expect to pay that max bid.
Yep. I always start my auctions out at where I am comfortable at. I use to start my bigger cards at 80% off the last few sells. Weeded out alot of people that way plus if I looked into someones history and seen alot of retractions, I would just cancel the bid and block them.
yep this guy got me a couple times, then I seen your first video about shilling now I stay far away from this dude
Sorry to hear he got you. Another person brought this guy to my attention and I wanted to get the information put out there so that people would know to stay away from him. Thank you for watching the video.
morning news
Thank you for watching. Have a good week.
Love it. I just looked at ebay item number 143939705277. A Gretzky rookie. Looks to me that the there was a little schill bidding fro a user with a zero rating. Am I right?
With the bidder who has zero feedback, he only has bid on two cards with two different people. He has no bid retractions. Even with that said, possibly could be. If he had more activity than only bidding on two items, then I would say yes for sure. He could have been like me where I stopped ebay for about 5 years and never logged in. They deleted my account and I had to start over. They could see I had an account at one time, but it was deleted by them for no reason. Strange things could happen. You are on the right path in checking these out for sure. This could go either way, but I would give this guy a benefit of doubt just this once.
@@eXtremeCardBreaks You opened my eyes and it's fun investigating.
@@davearchbell9921 lol it is fun looking into this. You can learn alot on it and it is very useful in the long run.
👍79
Thank you. Have a good week.