@@302Mustang13 Definitely it helped me decide on my Ford Expedition Limited and since I'm looking for a similar vehicle next these videos are a great tool to have
I love Ike videos. The Tacoma did better than I thought it would. Mr. Truck hit on something. Toyota never goes to top of class. I think, maybe, pushing those limits is what makes vehicles unreliable. Toyota's claim to fame is reliability and that's why they are number one. Everyone wants the fastest most powerful vehicle but when the average guy is spending so much money, he just wants to make sure it's not going to give him problems. Thanks Guys
This truck was really working hard to climb that grade. Has less hp and less torque than the Colorado. And since it was revving higher it's using more gas. He said he had the pedal on the floor to maintain 60 mph.
That's not a very tough climb. I be more interested if they would try going to Leads, Co. at 11,000 ft. elevation. That would be a true test of what these trucks can or can't handle.
@@stevewainwright3344 if you paid attention at the very start of the video Andre says its at 11, 158 ft elevation . So using your figures this would be considered a tough climb, correct?
@@Jbs6187 Yeah, I've only towed on it about 6 or 8 times. I tow a 16,000 lb 5th wheel all over the country, that stretch of road is I-70 outside Denver and is only 6% grade. Try towing that kind of weight over 10% grades like going to Leads, Co. Or the 10% grade over a 10,000 ft pass leaving Jackson's hole, Mt. into Idaho. Been towing places like that for 15 years. 😋
All those 3rd gen fanboys keep clamoring about the over stress on the 4 cylinder but compared to the V6 in this test it didnt look stressed at all like the V6
I love my 3rd gen but damn is that thing not even fun to drive on the interstate. The transmission flip flops gears on even the smallest incline on the road. If I wasn't so close to paying it off, I might consider a 4th gen. I just don't want to restart a loan and also the new Generation is just far too expensive for a midsizer.
For all the “Temperature” comments. The temp gauge is misleading. It’s a zoomed in version of the gauge. If you go through the info screen you can see the actual temp. But for comparison, in the video you can look at the temp at 19:30 while he is sitting still. The gauge shows the temps pretty close to the same as full speed at 18:33. It’s not getting hot. And, I’ve towed with my TB all over Colorado and Utah in late July with outside temps at 114°. The truck does just fine. Not problems with getting hot.
But everyone would love the color if it was on a Hyundai or Acura. lol. It’s no different from everyone always mentioning cruise control to Andre. The TFL channel conglomerate has turned into a politically biased *gm* troll. It’s sad to watch how they HATE on *gm* so unapologetically around these parts and make every excuse they possibly can make for the Japanese and South Koreans. 🙄
@@RecBuddha because it performed superiorly in the test. That has NOTHING to do with what I’m saying about bias and how *gm* is constantly *trolled* around these parts, and they welcome it. Nathan and Roman are literally *gm* trolls. They give Andre hell about his American purchase ALL OF THE TIME. The channel has become politically driven and biased, no one can deny it.
@devildog5354 exactly the reason *gm* made it an option because people do not use it. But they don’t talk about that, it’s the constant narrative they push here that General Motors is the cheapest manufacturer and their product lacks some “bare minimum” of what new vehicles should have in this day and age. Of course cooperations as successful as *gm* are going to have haters, but my issue lies with TFL who are supposed to be UNBIASED and providing consumers the facts/truth. Some of them are also trolls of *gm* and I don’t understand why they think we haven’t picked up on that.
I like Mr Truck’s comments about how Toyota doesn’t get ahead or leap forward of others. I gotta agree. My 20 Tacoma is a nice truck, but my 87 pickup & 02 were fantastic trucks for their time.
I had an 86 4Runner and later a 94 Pickup. Both had the 22RE. Legendary engine in terms of reliability. They had one flaw that was easily fixedthough The timing chain would wear out and start slapping against the water pump cover until it wore through. If you didn't catch it in time it would over heat the engine, warp the heads and you were screwed.
Be interesting to see how the Tacoma performs as it gets used. Andre had lots of issues with his truck when he first bought it, dead batteries, failed updates, dead back up camera. Lets see what happens with the Taco.
The Chevys are suffering from stretched timing chains at 30-40K miles. A bear of a job to do, and very expensive. The price difference is well worth it and if you keep the truck a long time it will be cheaper to own. Also better resale on the Toyota.
@@ehiggins7476 we don't really know it will be cheaper to own or more reliable as it's brand new. The new Tundra didn't sound like it fared too well on reliability front.
@@ehiggins7476That is on the old 3.6 engines but more prevalent to about the 2014’s ish. But most of the issues was lack of maintenance ie oil changes. Which most new engines that suffer from timing chain issues is the oil needs to be changed regularly. Ford had their engines suffer as well. I did belive Toyotas on some ealrier 3.5's had the same issue because oil pressure is used o lubricate the timing chains and oil pressure is need for the tensioners as well.
Since there are three separate assembly plants for the Toyota Tacoma, ( yours was assembled in the Guanajuato, Mexico plant), and the Baja California Norte, (Tijuana, Mexico) plant, and the San Antonio, Texas plant, if there is a difference in quality control. I bring up this question since I had a 2020 Tacoma, that was assembled at the Guanajuato, Mexico plant. That truck with only 45k miles was totaled out in a severe frontal impact accident last year. I purchased another 2020 Tacoma truck, this one being assembled at the San Antonio, Texas plant. I have noticed that this newer truck, for lack of a better word, feels "tighter", in regards to engine response, and in the braking, as well. Both of mine have the 6 speed manual transmission, (I loathe automatic transmissions). Great comparison that you guys always do, out on the ultimate real world test loop, thank you!
They only build in Mexico now. They stopped building in Texas with this new generation. In theory though it should not matter. There is a thing called quality control and it makes the quality even across the plants. In theory.
Yeah can't really find much issue with either. Extremely similar performances from both. Could use a bit more sound dampening in the Tacoma but obviously they're trying to keep curb weight and costs down.
You can disable adaptive cruise by holding the cruise button for 3 seconds when turning it on. Then it is regular cruise control. Coming from experience, even the 3rd gen Tacoma is much better at automatically grade shifting when you use cruise control.
Great video and interesting results. As a native coloradan that tows in the mountains often, it seems to me that despite these trucks tow ratings, I think towing this much weight might be best left for larger trucks. Good to know they can do it however!
Agree if this heavy towing is a regular thing. But if I buy a Tacoma I'll know that I can get something like a U-Haul trailer and pull it fully loaded with no problem.
I really enjoy the videos with Mr Truck and Andre “The New Mr Truck.” To me Mr Truck brings the wisdom and experience that a lot of videos are lacking. He’s seen and driven many models and versions of trucks and humbly explains how the new ones fit in. Great video gents.
@@AWDfreak the Toyota transmission is fine. You have no clue what you're talking about. 🤣 The junk 6l or 8l in the Colorado is not long for this world getting the 3/4s whereas the solid, tested aisin in the Tacoma is doing just fine.
I loved this heavy duty comparison test. And here’s something I noticed between those 2 trucks while they were going up hill, and is that the temperature in the Toyota Tacoma kept steady and stable all the way up while climbing, whereas the temperature in the Chev Colorado increased and rose close to red line. Even when the Tacoma climbed at a higher rpm. I think this is pretty good point to look at.
The temp your referring to going up was trans temp. Coolant for both stayed steady. They didn't have trans temp displayed on the Tacoma. It would have been on the right instead of mpg. I would have liked to see that.
Pretty wild how far this truck size has come in the last 10 years! Both of those trucks did a great job, and with a 4 cylinder engine! The head to head challenge is always a blast on the Ike and made even better with Mr. Truck and Andre together. Also, thanks to the crew driving the camera truck!
The growth in the size of midsize trucks is mostly due to how the government uses wheelbase to calculate emissions regulations and the increasingly stringent crash testing requirements.
Mr. Truck, Congrats on the announcement! Fun to see you're still using the tape to measure squat. An idea I suggested many years ago when TFL reviewed the Titon XD.. thanks, Jason.
great video I would like to see the i-forcemax done next because of the nearly 100lb.-ft more torque and about 50 more horsepower. i-FORCE turbocharged 2.4L four-cylinder 278 hp 317 lb-ft of torque vs Hybrid i-FORCE MAX powertrain 326 hp 465 lb.-ft of torque at just 1700 rpm
I’m curious, too. From what I could see on the gauges, both the engine and transmission were very close to overheating on the CO on the way up Ike. Incorporating data like temperatures would be an interesting addition to these tests.
I had really bad luck with one of the 2018 Chevys we bought. I only have 1 Toy right now (02 Tacoma), but the company has 2 Tundras that are outlasting everything else. Peace, Love!!
Considering the torque deficit of the Tacoma compared to the Colorado, I was surprised to see the Tacoma hold it's own on the Ike. For me, this shows that these trucks are very capable of towing well up to their maximum ratings under extreme conditions.
I’d like to see the Taco try and pull 7700 pounds. Oh, that’s right, it can’t. They gave it all the beans at a lower weight. The Chevy would be like “Hold my latte while I easily roll up this mountain”. Haha
@@tommybruen4686huh? Sure it isn’t rated as high but with this same weight they both performed nearly identical yup the hill, with a couple of advantages noted for the Tacoma in other aspects.
Cool! I was at VAIL last month. Missed you guys. 😂 Rented a JEEP 4xe & that motor ran constantly trying to charge that cold battery. Eventually turned that off & got much better fuel economy.
Have you driven one? I was super unimpressed by the motor. I've owned an F150 Ecoboost for 9 years and the 2.7L in the ZR2 felt really weak to me despite making more torque on paper and being 1200 lbs lighter. I walked away from the test drive pretty disappointed. I had pretty high hopes for the truck.
@Jay-me7gw I have and it wasn't that bad. I'm not buying it to drag race 😊. I have watched hundreds of videos of people towing and using it off road. They all seemed to like how it handles.
@@googleaccount2637 It has an 8 speed transmission with a very deep first gear and tight ratio spacing. As long as you hit the RPM you need to, it doesnt matter what the axle gears are. It a combination of both the transmissions gearing and the axle gearing to give you an overall gear reduction that matters. This isnt 1995 where we had 4 speed transmissions with horrible gear ratios and NEEDED 4.10's just to make them not suck. Im sure the 3.31 and 3.42 and 3.55's in the 2500 and 3500 HD diesel trucks are for efficiency too?
Why do people complain about the headlight controls in the screen? I rarely touch my controls since they are automatic on my truck, so it makes sense to move it there. If I had to turn them on/off every time, then no, that wouldn’t make sense, but on the Colorado, they’re auto…
Wonderful video! You’re both fun to watch… Were the Colorado’s engine and transmission close to overheating on the way up the Ike? It looked like it on the gauges. Thanks for doing these videos!
Fun thing, on the new Tacoma, ANYTIME the brakes are used little brake lights show up at the bottom of the instrument cluster, even with cruise control on.
I purchased the chevy Colorado trail boss for my wife because she gets confused with the 4 wheel drive modes and I just put it in auto mode and set it and forget it with the Tacoma you can't do that so that would be a deal breaker it's the only truck that doesn't have auto. WTF Toyota
Hate that I had to sell my 2017 tacoma with everything I had done to it. Gears, tune, setup for overland. Buuutt towing sucked even when stock. I was only towing 3k but it was terrible. So glad I did not wait to see how this new tacoma worked out. I took almost all the stuff off my taco and traded it for a tundra. Leaps and bounds a better vehicle. Sucks its huge but the added rear room is nice. Glad I can put things behind my seats.
Great review, thank you. We are looking into the long bed midsized truck with quad cab. Toyota is looking good. And my Camry has 307,000 miles on it. 😊
My friends have a lot of really old Taco , and they sure out last the new generation of trucks . Must them are used for hunting and fishing in my northern Ontario area. They have high clearance and very reliable in the bush road
2:12 "And we'll not using cruise control" Mr. Truck taking a jab at the Chevy Colorado's lack of cruise control. 😂 After asking if the Truck is a 2003 or 2004 model. Love it!
@@providentpathfinders219 Since the colorado is already 430lbs torque we already know the outcome. Just means the peddle on the tacoma wont be smashed to the floor as much.
It wont make a difference. Watch the Tundra iforce max video. The electric motor does nothing except for the initial acceleration and then abruptly shuts off at 50 mph. So you just get to carry an extra 500 lbs up the hill. The tacoma system is identical to the tundras.
Didn't André software update his colorado to get the higher power numbers from the engine? How much would that cost if you ordered it from factory? Was that included in the listed price in this video?
Back in 2023 the higher HP software update was $395. In 2024 the Trail Boss comes standard with the higher HP engine, matter of fact GM dropped the mid HP engine on the Colorado.
Turbo engine can be tuned for more power by simply adding boost and fueling/spaek adjustments. Something tuners do all the time with turbo engines and usually net 50hp and 100lb of torque. GM is just offering one from the factory before deciding just to give the high output on all of them. All that exta boost though could be detrimental to your drivetrain without the supporting upgrades
@@beexiong2995 The Colorado Turbo Max engine was built for the higher HP and Torque numbers. That's why you could never get the software upgrade on the base 4 banger turbo engine in the 2023 Colorado.
One psi low on one tire will NOT set off a low tire pressure light ! All your tires must be under inflated, cold or not, you don't drive or tow unless you properly inflate the tires. Especially towing, which puts added load on the rear tires, and being low on air, they can Overheat the sidewalls, and cause a blowout ! Your excuses don't hold water, and you are Dangerous !
@@corystansburyon my GM product, I've seen individual tires quite low and it doesn't set the light off. I've seen a tire at 27psi on a cold morning and it complains in the app but it doesn't actually set the light off. Now, I have had a puncture before and the tire started deflating quickly and it set a light off before it dropped below 30psi. The system seems to be smarter than just 'you have low tire pressure'
oil and transmission temps were getting very high on the Chevy in the uphill.... Toyota does not show transmission temps but oil temps were steady on the Tacoma on the uphill and that engine was running harder
I don't know if anyone else happened to notice, but Andre's Colorado ran much warmer coolant temps on the uphill compared to the Tacoma. Not that it was overheating, but I feel like it was worth noting especially since this test is in the winter time.
I’m biased as I sell Tacoma’s BUT the Chevy has done so well with fit and finish, appearance, sound deadening and hp.. plus payload… but I sold Chevys for many years and I’ve yet to see them make a reliable vehicle past 75k miles. Bummer for them.. and when the Hybrid Tacoma arrives, it’ll be game over. The money differential is real but I CAN GUARANTEE ANYONE that they’ll get that extra money spent, when they sell it trade it down the road PLUS a ton more. Good job Colorado, but it’s not enough of a win to beat Toyota resale and reliability.
Can we get an Ike comparison where the same truck runs it twice? On one run downhill do it with cruise control on. On the other run downhill do it with cruise control off. I suspect there will be a difference on the Colorado. I've been buying GM vehicles for over 20 years and driven all over the country, including the Ike. What I see in your videos and what I've experienced seem to be different things. I wouldn't be surprised if most trucks revealed a difference, too.
Crazy how similar they tested. I would happily pay the extra for the Tacoma given you get adaptive cruise control, more comfortable seats, better ride from the suspension and LED lights.
Going back and comparing the tfl ike runs with the frontier, colorado, '24 taco, and ranger it seems the ranger was one of the quietest and seemed like it wasn't stressed. While I like the looks better on the '24 taco and '23+ colorado having a quiet less stressful ride is important to me. That makes me think if ford can get their act together with the recall nonsense when they release the 2.7 v6 ranger its going to be an amazing mid size tow rig.
It looks like the trans and coolant temp on the Chevy was running high on the temp gauge during uphill. Tacoma temps looked about normal, just above mid range.
@@454budman 18:35 I know there isn’t a scale or actual readout on these temp gauges, but the levels on the Colorado are at the upper end of the gauge. It’s not too hot, but still high on the gauges.
Yeah like the others said, the Colorado runs 'hot' for whatever reason - I've had mine at the upper end towing a tiny 700lb trailer (probably 1300 total lb). Their scale is 'just different'
Multiple tow haul would be cool. Say 1 for flat ground/highway fuel efficiency and the second for more aggressive grade braking/shifting for mountains and hills. Or something to that effect. I wonder if that would be enough to actually matter. Or would it just be another gimmick?
I really enjoy these videos. They really do show differences between the vehicles. However, what I really wish we could compare is the 10 year reliability of them all. They’re all good when they’re new, but how much work and money does it take to keep them all on the road? And how good are they then? How did the body hold up in the rust belts of North America?
I’m personally a little skeptical of the twin turbo hybrid system. I know that setup is in other vehicles they have but I suppose only time will tell. We bought our 4runner specifically because of the 4L V6 and the track record for reliability. I’d be interested in the new Lexus gx with the twin turbo 6 cylinder.
I still have my 2011 Tacoma with 255k miles on it. That 4l can be put through hell and still looks beautiful. She is thirsty, but you don’t see broken down on the side of the road.
Thanks for the real world test. I really appreciate it. In your newer video towing after your repair, you checked the transmission temp and found it hot. I wonder if you did that during this test. second question, I pulled my 4800lb camper up and down the same route with my 200 series. Engine had plenty of power but Transmission got hot. Found out later for the 200 series you should take it out of Drive and put it into a gear. The heat is caused by the tranny looking for the ight gear going back and forth. Does tow mode prevent that?
The Chevy has terrible cooling. The coolant and trans temp were a tick below the danger zone considering its over 1,000 pounds lighter than its max towing. The Taco's temps stayed at the half way mark. If the grade was longer or the weight was heavier, the Chevy might overheat.
More likely than not to overheat if it's 20 degrees warmer outside too. No car has had an honest temperature guage since the mid-90s. Most will hold right in the center from about 180F to 230F. If it's moved from that at all, it's probably close to 240F. Temperature is one of the rare measurements in physics where you just add the numbers together. If the engine is alreadg struggling to stay cool, a 20F warmer outside means a 20F warmer engine.
That’s not how the temp gauge works on the Colorado. The display only shows a zoomed in top half of the range. In the info screen you can look at the actual temp in degrees. I have a Trail Boss and have towed all over Colorado and Utah in 114° temps and it was awesome. No problem cooling while towing in the heat.
The Tacoma looked more stable and it maintained it's coolant temperature which is typical Toyota. That's part of the reason they are so reliable. I've owned two Tundras for well over a decade and they are always rock solid on temperatures and oil pressure regardless of conditions. The Chevy did show a rise in temps. I'd buy the Tacoma.
It would have been interesting to monitor boost once at 60mph up the hill. I know I see a lot of sustained boost of 5+ when towing my 5000lb boat at 70+ mph on the interstate with my 2023 Trail Boss.
it sounded like it was hunting gears when i slowly passed by. i was sorta hunting gears myself in my manual transmission car. couldn't find one it was happy in and eventually dropped out behind them to find a spot the car was happy in.
Great video as always. My only issue with the Toyota is the inside. The screen looks like it was an afterthought, especially on the models with the larger screen. GM and Ford both nailed the interior by comparison. The integration just looks so much better on the Ranger and Colorado compared to the Tacoma.
@@cajjmiar I know, but I think because it isn't really integrated into the dash like the Ranger or Colorado and just some large screen hanging there, it doesn't look very finished.
I understand why you guys like the new Tacoma over the old one. However, I can't see myself ditching my '21 Off Road long-bed for one anytime soon. I like the old-school steering, brakes, and rear suspension, along with the V-6 engine design. It would have been nice for Toyota to have upgraded to the 8-speed sooner. Finally, for the money, the rear seat isn't larger and the payload still - sucks - being honest (my truck has 940 lbs payload). Without more rear legroom and at least 1,500 lbs of payload, Toyota seems to have missed the mark, in my opinion. As always, it is great that TFL does such in-depth, unbiased reviews.
I’ve towed with my TB in 114° heat throughout Colorado and Utah. The truck dose great. Never even moved the dial on temp for the engine or trans. Even on the Ike. The screen they show in the video is a zoomed in display of the top half of the range. There is another option with actual temp.
Basically nothing in real world terms. Just like guys were super hyped about the e-torque's affect on performance with the new Ram 1500 when it came out. Everyone heard the electric motor was going to boost the torque and the hype train was in effect. Problem is that torque generated by an electric motor falls dramatically with RPM and the battery doesn't have huge reserves, so it's not going to matter with testing on the Ike Gauntlet.
Coolant temp on Chevy was almost maxed out. Between this and the Silverado they had an issue with, seems to be the norm for GM lately. The bad part for this one is it’s winter time.
Great video, but I really think you guys need to figure out a way of filling these trucks up at the beginning and then topping them off at the end to get a more accurate mpg! We have all seen how inaccurate these computers can be. Maybe bring along a 100 gallon fuel tank in another truck to fill them 🙂
Looks like both trucks aced this test, especially the Taco, being a mid-grade engine The Colorado had their best engine, and it performed like it. The best engine for the Taco, the Hybrid Max, hasn't been released yet
@@WheresHerb You are incorrect. This is the Hi-Ouput 310 HP engine, with 430 lb ft of torque, much stronger than this engine in the Tacoma. This is the best you can in a Colorado. Tacoma's best will be the Hybrid Max, with 326 HP, but that doesn't come out for a couple of months.
@TheCapn23 Ridgeline is a crossover with a bed. If that's what you want, it's great. Certainly better than a Santa Cruz and probably better than a Maverick, but pricing becomes an issue against Maverick.
Man, only 1200lb's payload in the taco so low. Mid size utes in Aus get nearly 1200kg (2500lb approx) payload in work biased vehicles with minimums of 800-900kg in more family friendly versions. Why are payloads so low in the states? You fill that car with fuel and 5 people and your at your payload. No mods, no ball weight. How does it work?
Payload is indeed shortchanged with midsize trucks on this continent. They likely want to protect the full size market from shrinking as most owners drive their truck with an empty bed 90% of the time anyway. Also midsize mpg’s numbers are weak compared to full size trucks. Room for improvement in both aspects.
@@ehiggins7476 with what they were towing and just two guys the taco was at the maximum GCWR, if there was a bed mat or a cooler in the truck when towing it would have been overloaded
@@paulhunter9613and would have been pulled over by the payload police. Truck didn’t even break a sweat and handled better than the colorado. Chevy was at the high end of normal temp.
These Ike gauntlets are interesting to watch always enjoy them 🙂
Yup! 🙌🏽😁
Especially Ike comparisons.
@@302Mustang13 Definitely it helped me decide on my Ford Expedition Limited and since I'm looking for a similar vehicle next these videos are a great tool to have
Glad you like them!
You need to make a video Tacoma vs Buhanka😊
I love Ike videos. The Tacoma did better than I thought it would. Mr. Truck hit on something. Toyota never goes to top of class. I think, maybe, pushing those limits is what makes vehicles unreliable. Toyota's claim to fame is reliability and that's why they are number one. Everyone wants the fastest most powerful vehicle but when the average guy is spending so much money, he just wants to make sure it's not going to give him problems. Thanks Guys
Exactly what I was thinking, well said
The average Tacoma buyer wants a vehicle they can sell to the next guy for a little more.
If you listen closely to this video you can tell they were very biased to Tacoma.
Coil springs will wear out long before leaf springs, and they allow the truck to sway a lot more
This truck was really working hard to climb that grade. Has less hp and less torque than the Colorado. And since it was revving higher it's using more gas. He said he had the pedal on the floor to maintain 60 mph.
The Ike gauntlet is by far my favorite part of this whole channel. Love watching Andre and Mr Truck
That's not a very tough climb. I be more interested if they would try going to Leads, Co. at 11,000 ft. elevation. That would be a true test of what these trucks can or can't handle.
@@stevewainwright3344 if you paid attention at the very start of the video Andre says its at 11, 158 ft elevation . So using your figures this would be considered a tough climb, correct?
@@Jbs6187 Yeah, I've only towed on it about 6 or 8 times. I tow a 16,000 lb 5th wheel all over the country, that stretch of road is I-70 outside Denver and is only 6% grade. Try towing that kind of weight over 10% grades like going to Leads, Co. Or the 10% grade over a 10,000 ft pass leaving Jackson's hole, Mt. into Idaho.
Been towing places like that for 15 years. 😋
I like the numbers comparison on the screen at the end of the video
Missing the left column saying what's what. like what is yes, and what's no.
I remember watching the 2016 Tacoma Ike Gauntlet video. That engine was screaming, it’s nice to see the new Tacoma doing much better
All those 3rd gen fanboys keep clamoring about the over stress on the 4 cylinder but compared to the V6 in this test it didnt look stressed at all like the V6
Agreed. I owned a gen3 and if you put anything at all behind the truck, it screamed even at sea level in Florida.
Gen3 owner, tow a 3000 plus lb boat ZERO issues
I love my 3rd gen but damn is that thing not even fun to drive on the interstate. The transmission flip flops gears on even the smallest incline on the road. If I wasn't so close to paying it off, I might consider a 4th gen. I just don't want to restart a loan and also the new Generation is just far too expensive for a midsizer.
@@Jayb21724 can it tow it? Yes. Will the engine like it? No. The question was about stress and the V6 is overstressed compared to the turbo 4
For all the “Temperature” comments. The temp gauge is misleading. It’s a zoomed in version of the gauge. If you go through the info screen you can see the actual temp. But for comparison, in the video you can look at the temp at 19:30 while he is sitting still. The gauge shows the temps pretty close to the same as full speed at 18:33. It’s not getting hot. And, I’ve towed with my TB all over Colorado and Utah in late July with outside temps at 114°. The truck does just fine. Not problems with getting hot.
Agreed. I also have a ‘23 Colorado trail boss, the temps are at their normal position.
The hottest I've ever seen in the past 10k miles in my 23 colorado was 214° and that was actually offloading for several hours in 4hi
The fact that TFL does actual truck test with actual trucks is refreshing! Love you guys at TFL!
I love hearing Mr. Truck giving Andre crap about the color of his Chevy Colorado...
Yeah, Nitro Yellow? More like Urine Sample.
But everyone would love the color if it was on a Hyundai or Acura. lol. It’s no different from everyone always mentioning cruise control to Andre. The TFL channel conglomerate has turned into a politically biased *gm* troll. It’s sad to watch how they HATE on *gm* so unapologetically around these parts and make every excuse they possibly can make for the Japanese and South Koreans. 🙄
@@G-Rated They literally just gave the Colorado the win in this video over the Tacoma.
@@RecBuddha because it performed superiorly in the test. That has NOTHING to do with what I’m saying about bias and how *gm* is constantly *trolled* around these parts, and they welcome it. Nathan and Roman are literally *gm* trolls. They give Andre hell about his American purchase ALL OF THE TIME. The channel has become politically driven and biased, no one can deny it.
@devildog5354 exactly the reason *gm* made it an option because people do not use it. But they don’t talk about that, it’s the constant narrative they push here that General Motors is the cheapest manufacturer and their product lacks some “bare minimum” of what new vehicles should have in this day and age.
Of course cooperations as successful as *gm* are going to have haters, but my issue lies with TFL who are supposed to be UNBIASED and providing consumers the facts/truth. Some of them are also trolls of *gm* and I don’t understand why they think we haven’t picked up on that.
The drone of the Tacoma would drive me crazy
All the cheap plastic on the chevy makes it look old and its still a pretty new truck tbh
Picking up a 24 trail boss in a couple weeks as my first truck and I’m beyond excited. Nice to see it can live up to the test. Great Video!
I like Mr Truck’s comments about how Toyota doesn’t get ahead or leap forward of others. I gotta agree. My 20 Tacoma is a nice truck, but my 87 pickup & 02 were fantastic trucks for their time.
I had an 86 4Runner and later a 94 Pickup. Both had the 22RE. Legendary engine in terms of reliability. They had one flaw that was easily fixedthough The timing chain would wear out and start slapping against the water pump cover until it wore through. If you didn't catch it in time it would over heat the engine, warp the heads and you were screwed.
Be interesting to see how the Tacoma performs as it gets used. Andre had lots of issues with his truck when he first bought it, dead batteries, failed updates, dead back up camera. Lets see what happens with the Taco.
That’s a GM though
The Chevys are suffering from stretched timing chains at 30-40K miles. A bear of a job to do, and very expensive. The price difference is well worth it and if you keep the truck a long time it will be cheaper to own. Also better resale on the Toyota.
@@ehiggins7476 we don't really know it will be cheaper to own or more reliable as it's brand new. The new Tundra didn't sound like it fared too well on reliability front.
@@jimsomerville3924 see I'm biased. I have a 2023 tundra. I bought it in 2022. It's 14 months old. I haven't had a single issue. It's been wonderful.
@@ehiggins7476That is on the old 3.6 engines but more prevalent to about the 2014’s ish. But most of the issues was lack of maintenance ie oil changes. Which most new engines that suffer from timing chain issues is the oil needs to be changed regularly. Ford had their engines suffer as well. I did belive Toyotas on some ealrier 3.5's had the same issue because oil pressure is used o lubricate the timing chains and oil pressure is need for the tensioners as well.
Since there are three separate assembly plants for the Toyota Tacoma, ( yours was assembled in the Guanajuato, Mexico plant), and the Baja California Norte, (Tijuana, Mexico) plant, and the San Antonio, Texas plant, if there is a difference in quality control. I bring up this question since I had a 2020 Tacoma, that was assembled at the Guanajuato, Mexico plant. That truck with only 45k miles was totaled out in a severe frontal impact accident last year. I purchased another 2020 Tacoma truck, this one being assembled at the San Antonio, Texas plant. I have noticed that this newer truck, for lack of a better word, feels "tighter", in regards to engine response, and in the braking, as well. Both of mine have the 6 speed manual transmission, (I loathe automatic transmissions). Great comparison that you guys always do, out on the ultimate real world test loop, thank you!
They stopped building tacos in texas years ago i think
They only build in Mexico now. They stopped building in Texas with this new generation. In theory though it should not matter. There is a thing called quality control and it makes the quality even across the plants. In theory.
@@is6566 Thanks, I was not aware that the San Antonio, Texas Tacoma assembly plant, was shut down.
@@carlc5748they only build Tundras and Sequoias now
@@carlc5748 It didn't shut down, it just stopped building Tacomas and now only builds Tundras.
Looking forward to seeing the new ranger comparison in the mid-size Ike
Great comparison. Both trucks are a W in my books.
Yeah can't really find much issue with either. Extremely similar performances from both. Could use a bit more sound dampening in the Tacoma but obviously they're trying to keep curb weight and costs down.
Kent getting married! Congratulations Mr. Truck!
And Mrs. Truck!
@devildog5354it’s 2024. You never know 🤷🏼♂️ 😁
@devildog5354 Especially if she beeps when she backs up.
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You can disable adaptive cruise by holding the cruise button for 3 seconds when turning it on. Then it is regular cruise control. Coming from experience, even the 3rd gen Tacoma is much better at automatically grade shifting when you use cruise control.
Same with GM trucks. Work better with CC on.
Great video and interesting results. As a native coloradan that tows in the mountains often, it seems to me that despite these trucks tow ratings, I think towing this much weight might be best left for larger trucks. Good to know they can do it however!
Agree if this heavy towing is a regular thing. But if I buy a Tacoma I'll know that I can get something like a U-Haul trailer and pull it fully loaded with no problem.
Both trucks have a screen that looks like an afterthought.
Most vehicles do. I'd rather they left them out altogether for longevity sake.
Both are good enough for trucks. It doesn't need to look like a rhinestone cowboy setup like the lolram.
The front of the chevy looks 10 years old its a year old bro 8000 miles on it
I really enjoy the videos with Mr Truck and Andre “The New Mr Truck.” To me Mr Truck brings the wisdom and experience that a lot of videos are lacking. He’s seen and driven many models and versions of trucks and humbly explains how the new ones fit in. Great video gents.
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for some reason I find these ike gauntlet videos very relaxing, especially the winter ones
I'd like to see one of the many marauding Colorado bigfoot crossing the road in front of them!
The true test would be what truck will be around the longest after 100,000 miles
And the resale value.
and if the frame is rusted out
Not the Colorado with that transmission temp so high.
@@punkrocker10115Toyota engineers be like "you don't need a transmission cooler".
Both might blow their transmissions, but time will tell.
@@AWDfreak the Toyota transmission is fine. You have no clue what you're talking about. 🤣 The junk 6l or 8l in the Colorado is not long for this world getting the 3/4s whereas the solid, tested aisin in the Tacoma is doing just fine.
I loved this heavy duty comparison test. And here’s something I noticed between those 2 trucks while they were going up hill, and is that the temperature in the Toyota Tacoma kept steady and stable all the way up while climbing, whereas the temperature in the Chev Colorado increased and rose close to red line. Even when the Tacoma climbed at a higher rpm.
I think this is pretty good point to look at.
Very good observation and point!
This shows why its more reliable. Engine can handle quite a bit.
The temp your referring to going up was trans temp. Coolant for both stayed steady. They didn't have trans temp displayed on the Tacoma. It would have been on the right instead of mpg. I would have liked to see that.
Pretty wild how far this truck size has come in the last 10 years! Both of those trucks did a great job, and with a 4 cylinder engine! The head to head challenge is always a blast on the Ike and made even better with Mr. Truck and Andre together. Also, thanks to the crew driving the camera truck!
Don't forget that 4cyl has snail power
@@Likethetacosauce Dig that! My Alfa has it and I love it!
@@hhjones9393 90 240sx has one and it makes all the right noises
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The growth in the size of midsize trucks is mostly due to how the government uses wheelbase to calculate emissions regulations and the increasingly stringent crash testing requirements.
Mr. Truck, Congrats on the announcement! Fun to see you're still using the tape to measure squat. An idea I suggested many years ago when TFL reviewed the Titon XD.. thanks, Jason.
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great video I would like to see the i-forcemax done next because of the nearly 100lb.-ft more torque and about 50 more horsepower. i-FORCE turbocharged 2.4L four-cylinder 278 hp
317 lb-ft of torque vs Hybrid i-FORCE MAX powertrain 326 hp 465 lb.-ft of torque at just 1700 rpm
So glad to see Mr Truck on the show more often as of late. He was greatly missed during his hiatus.
Great video, big fan of the Colorado and Canyon trucks. GM doing a great job in the mid truck market.
I'm surprised that it hasn't been brought up that the Colorado was danger close to over heating and the Taco was still in normal op temps
How do you know the taco was at normal temps? Did you see a gauge that said hot the temp was? I didn’t see one
Adaptive cruise but no trailer brakes??? So the opposite of the Colorado. Love these industry standards.
What was the transmission temp on the way up? Does it have a cooler on the trans?
I’m curious, too. From what I could see on the gauges, both the engine and transmission were very close to overheating on the CO on the way up Ike. Incorporating data like temperatures would be an interesting addition to these tests.
Congrats Mr. Truck on your up coming marriage! Nice guys like you deserve a lifetime of happiness and companionship. Wishing you the best. 🙂
I had really bad luck with one of the 2018 Chevys we bought. I only have 1 Toy right now (02 Tacoma), but the company has 2 Tundras that are outlasting everything else. Peace, Love!!
Being specific that "2018" was a completely different platform. This Colorado was all new last year.
@@swampfoxpicks6908well that don’t excuse GM from building junk.
@@rickeycooley9139 I do apologize sir for pointing a difference in model years. Please forgive me
Considering the torque deficit of the Tacoma compared to the Colorado, I was surprised to see the Tacoma hold it's own on the Ike. For me, this shows that these trucks are very capable of towing well up to their maximum ratings under extreme conditions.
I’d like to see the Taco try and pull 7700 pounds. Oh, that’s right, it can’t. They gave it all the beans at a lower weight. The Chevy would be like “Hold my latte while I easily roll up this mountain”. Haha
@@tommybruen4686huh? Sure it isn’t rated as high but with this same weight they both performed nearly identical yup the hill, with a couple of advantages noted for the Tacoma in other aspects.
@@ALMX5DPPulled identical because they stop accelerating at 60. That would mean the chevy was 3 secs faster from 35 to 60 at toyotas max rating
@@EGGINFOOLS seems pretty similar to me even if the Colorado was a smidge quicker right at the beginning.
@@ALMX5DPactually pretty embarrassing for the Colorado considering it has way more like 30 HP and about 100 more torque
Cool! I was at VAIL last month. Missed you guys. 😂 Rented a JEEP 4xe & that motor ran constantly trying to charge that cold battery. Eventually turned that off & got much better fuel economy.
All in all, I like the Colorado better b/c of the noise issue and the trans constantly shifting. And look at the cost! No brainer...
Well you must not have any, because the Toyota is FAR better in every way possible.
I was considering purchase of a 2024 Colorado until I learned it only comes with a 5'2" bed......
@@Georgewashington-o7m Except, you know, every measurable metric where it looses. Other than that it's great.
Mr. Truck is right about the Tacoma. This truck may be a bit better than the previous model, but there are still many things they came up short on.
Ordered my 2024 Colorado ZR2 in November. Best looking truck on the market.
Have you driven one? I was super unimpressed by the motor. I've owned an F150 Ecoboost for 9 years and the 2.7L in the ZR2 felt really weak to me despite making more torque on paper and being 1200 lbs lighter.
I walked away from the test drive pretty disappointed. I had pretty high hopes for the truck.
@Jay-me7gw I have and it wasn't that bad. I'm not buying it to drag race 😊. I have watched hundreds of videos of people towing and using it off road. They all seemed to like how it handles.
@@captaincrypto9660 I wasn't buying it to drag race either, but I do wanna tow and was looking for low end torque. It was not there.
@@Jay-me7gwlikely due to 3.42 gears for fuel efficiency.
@@googleaccount2637 It has an 8 speed transmission with a very deep first gear and tight ratio spacing. As long as you hit the RPM you need to, it doesnt matter what the axle gears are. It a combination of both the transmissions gearing and the axle gearing to give you an overall gear reduction that matters.
This isnt 1995 where we had 4 speed transmissions with horrible gear ratios and NEEDED 4.10's just to make them not suck.
Im sure the 3.31 and 3.42 and 3.55's in the 2500 and 3500 HD diesel trucks are for efficiency too?
Why do people complain about the headlight controls in the screen? I rarely touch my controls since they are automatic on my truck, so it makes sense to move it there. If I had to turn them on/off every time, then no, that wouldn’t make sense, but on the Colorado, they’re auto…
Badass towing video! Keep up the good work guys!
Wonderful video! You’re both fun to watch… Were the Colorado’s engine and transmission close to overheating on the way up the Ike? It looked like it on the gauges. Thanks for doing these videos!
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Really looking forward to the highway mpg loop comparison between these two. I think the Tacoma will actually come out on top.
There blue berry taco did 24 hwy and like 12.5 towing. Albeit it was raining and windy they said
Fun thing, on the new Tacoma, ANYTIME the brakes are used little brake lights show up at the bottom of the instrument cluster, even with cruise control on.
I purchased the chevy Colorado trail boss for my wife because she gets confused with the 4 wheel drive modes and I just put it in auto mode and set it and forget it with the Tacoma you can't do that so that would be a deal breaker it's the only truck that doesn't have auto. WTF Toyota
I love hearing all the taco guys worried about if Toyotas put enough hot sauce on their new trucks 💋
Nice test. A couple of spec differences that matter for towing: Colorado has an extra 300 lb payload capacity rating, and a 3 gallon larger fuel tank.
Hate that I had to sell my 2017 tacoma with everything I had done to it. Gears, tune, setup for overland. Buuutt towing sucked even when stock. I was only towing 3k but it was terrible. So glad I did not wait to see how this new tacoma worked out. I took almost all the stuff off my taco and traded it for a tundra. Leaps and bounds a better vehicle. Sucks its huge but the added rear room is nice. Glad I can put things behind my seats.
Great review, thank you. We are looking into the long bed midsized truck with quad cab. Toyota is looking good. And my Camry has 307,000 miles on it. 😊
One tough Camry you got! One owner I’d guess.
Third owner. Spark plugs, brakes and normal maintenance mostly.
What year Camry u got? My mom still has her 2002 Camry, RN it has 320k miles and still feels brand new.
My friends have a lot of really old Taco , and they sure out last the new generation of trucks . Must them are used for hunting and fishing in my northern Ontario area. They have high clearance and very reliable in the bush road
2:12 "And we'll not using cruise control" Mr. Truck taking a jab at the Chevy Colorado's lack of cruise control. 😂
After asking if the Truck is a 2003 or 2004 model.
Love it!
Which power train was the Tacoma; IForce or IForce Max?
so excited to see how the iforce max hybrid performs
yeah. that 400+ ft lbs of torque should make it interesting
@@providentpathfinders219would it be able to sustain all ghat torque all the way up the hill though?
That's what I wanna see as well.@@ALMX5DP
@@providentpathfinders219 Since the colorado is already 430lbs torque we already know the outcome. Just means the peddle on the tacoma wont be smashed to the floor as much.
It wont make a difference. Watch the Tundra iforce max video. The electric motor does nothing except for the initial acceleration and then abruptly shuts off at 50 mph. So you just get to carry an extra 500 lbs up the hill.
The tacoma system is identical to the tundras.
Been looking at both trucks so this video was perfect. Love the ike gauntlet videos 👍🏻
Didn't André software update his colorado to get the higher power numbers from the engine?
How much would that cost if you ordered it from factory?
Was that included in the listed price in this video?
Back in 2023 the higher HP software update was $395. In 2024 the Trail Boss comes standard with the higher HP engine, matter of fact GM dropped the mid HP engine on the Colorado.
@@theplayernkc Was the 2023 mid hp the same price as the new 2024 Ho ?
Turbo engine can be tuned for more power by simply adding boost and fueling/spaek adjustments. Something tuners do all the time with turbo engines and usually net 50hp and 100lb of torque. GM is just offering one from the factory before deciding just to give the high output on all of them. All that exta boost though could be detrimental to your drivetrain without the supporting upgrades
@@perpellethe horse power has been the same the torque was the number that changed.
@@beexiong2995 The Colorado Turbo Max engine was built for the higher HP and Torque numbers. That's why you could never get the software upgrade on the base 4 banger turbo engine in the 2023 Colorado.
I'm starting to take a liking to the 4th gen. I may pick one up on it's 2nd or 3rd year itteration. Awesome!
Is that a tire pressure warning light on the chevy? Might affect towing mileage/brake applications
Did you watch the video? They addressed it twice.
One psi low on one tire will NOT set off a low tire pressure light ! All your tires must be under inflated, cold or not, you don't drive or tow unless you properly inflate the tires. Especially towing, which puts added load on the rear tires, and being low on air, they can Overheat the sidewalls, and cause a blowout !
Your excuses don't hold water, and you are Dangerous !
Absolutely!
@@jameslester4474 On my GM product, one tire below the setpoint absolutely sets off the light.
@@corystansburyon my GM product, I've seen individual tires quite low and it doesn't set the light off. I've seen a tire at 27psi on a cold morning and it complains in the app but it doesn't actually set the light off. Now, I have had a puncture before and the tire started deflating quickly and it set a light off before it dropped below 30psi. The system seems to be smarter than just 'you have low tire pressure'
oil and transmission temps were getting very high on the Chevy in the uphill.... Toyota does not show transmission temps but oil temps were steady on the Tacoma on the uphill and that engine was running harder
Previous videos of this Tacoma showed dash with tranny and oil temps, wonder why they didn’t have it configure for this test?
No cruise, no deal. It's a MUST-have for me!
Blah blah blah
So get cruise then
I think they meant they were not going to use the cruise. Both trucks have Cruise Control. (Tacoma-27:54)
@@SCBMD2020the Chevy doesn't have cruise control.
@@stephenj4937 Andre didn’t check the box. That’s on him not the truck.
I don't know if anyone else happened to notice, but Andre's Colorado ran much warmer coolant temps on the uphill compared to the Tacoma. Not that it was overheating, but I feel like it was worth noting especially since this test is in the winter time.
One intangible that is not considered in this comparison is longevity and reliability. For that we have to rely on history and reputation.
I’m biased as I sell Tacoma’s BUT the Chevy has done so well with fit and finish, appearance, sound deadening and hp.. plus payload… but I sold Chevys for many years and I’ve yet to see them make a reliable vehicle past 75k miles. Bummer for them.. and when the Hybrid Tacoma arrives, it’ll be game over. The money differential is real but I CAN GUARANTEE ANYONE that they’ll get that extra money spent, when they sell it trade it down the road PLUS a ton more. Good job Colorado, but it’s not enough of a win to beat Toyota resale and reliability.
Remember this is a low optioned TRD off road too. No sliding rear window, cheaper interior. Those things are expensive
Low trim rado as well.
An cheap center screen
Can we get an Ike comparison where the same truck runs it twice? On one run downhill do it with cruise control on. On the other run downhill do it with cruise control off. I suspect there will be a difference on the Colorado. I've been buying GM vehicles for over 20 years and driven all over the country, including the Ike. What I see in your videos and what I've experienced seem to be different things. I wouldn't be surprised if most trucks revealed a difference, too.
Crazy how similar they tested. I would happily pay the extra for the Tacoma given you get adaptive cruise control, more comfortable seats, better ride from the suspension and LED lights.
Going back and comparing the tfl ike runs with the frontier, colorado, '24 taco, and ranger it seems the ranger was one of the quietest and seemed like it wasn't stressed. While I like the looks better on the '24 taco and '23+ colorado having a quiet less stressful ride is important to me. That makes me think if ford can get their act together with the recall nonsense when they release the 2.7 v6 ranger its going to be an amazing mid size tow rig.
It looks like the trans and coolant temp on the Chevy was running high on the temp gauge during uphill. Tacoma temps looked about normal, just above mid range.
Look at it again thats just how the gauge is made it was running normal temp
@@454budman 18:35 I know there isn’t a scale or actual readout on these temp gauges, but the levels on the Colorado are at the upper end of the gauge. It’s not too hot, but still high on the gauges.
@@ChrisSmith-hx8kmI have a 2023 Colorado. The gauges are reading their normal temp. That’s where they are even when not towing.
@@johnddaleythe readout did creep upwards during the run though.
Yeah like the others said, the Colorado runs 'hot' for whatever reason - I've had mine at the upper end towing a tiny 700lb trailer (probably 1300 total lb). Their scale is 'just different'
Multiple tow haul would be cool. Say 1 for flat ground/highway fuel efficiency and the second for more aggressive grade braking/shifting for mountains and hills. Or something to that effect. I wonder if that would be enough to actually matter. Or would it just be another gimmick?
Which one has the better cruise control?
The Chevy does...it's foot control.
@@mikefoehr235 so does the tacoma
I really enjoy these videos. They really do show differences between the vehicles. However, what I really wish we could compare is the 10 year reliability of them all. They’re all good when they’re new, but how much work and money does it take to keep them all on the road? And how good are they then? How did the body hold up in the rust belts of North America?
I’m personally a little skeptical of the twin turbo hybrid system. I know that setup is in other vehicles they have but I suppose only time will tell. We bought our 4runner specifically because of the 4L V6 and the track record for reliability. I’d be interested in the new Lexus gx with the twin turbo 6 cylinder.
That 4.0L fuel economy is painful though. Expensive to run.
I still have my 2011 Tacoma with 255k miles on it. That 4l can be put through hell and still looks beautiful. She is thirsty, but you don’t see broken down on the side of the road.
@@palebeachbumthat’s true. I also have a truck so it doesn’t bother me much personally. Just a trade off for reliability
They will be built to last longer. Less stress and more power.
Thanks for the real world test. I really appreciate it. In your newer video towing after your repair, you checked the transmission temp and found it hot. I wonder if you did that during this test. second question, I pulled my 4800lb camper up and down the same route with my 200 series. Engine had plenty of power but Transmission got hot. Found out later for the 200 series you should take it out of Drive and put it into a gear. The heat is caused by the tranny looking for the ight gear going back and forth. Does tow mode prevent that?
The Chevy has terrible cooling. The coolant and trans temp were a tick below the danger zone considering its over 1,000 pounds lighter than its max towing. The Taco's temps stayed at the half way mark. If the grade was longer or the weight was heavier, the Chevy might overheat.
Same as last time. And same as last time, it’s cold out. Run the Colorado in peak summer heat. It would overheat for sure.
More likely than not to overheat if it's 20 degrees warmer outside too.
No car has had an honest temperature guage since the mid-90s. Most will hold right in the center from about 180F to 230F. If it's moved from that at all, it's probably close to 240F. Temperature is one of the rare measurements in physics where you just add the numbers together. If the engine is alreadg struggling to stay cool, a 20F warmer outside means a 20F warmer engine.
That’s not how the temp gauge works on the Colorado. The display only shows a zoomed in top half of the range. In the info screen you can look at the actual temp in degrees. I have a Trail Boss and have towed all over Colorado and Utah in 114° temps and it was awesome. No problem cooling while towing in the heat.
Its was running normal thats just the the gauge is set up. You can see the line next to it where normal operation is.
Would be good to revisit this with the hybrid turbo i4 taco.
The Tacoma looked more stable and it maintained it's coolant temperature which is typical Toyota. That's part of the reason they are so reliable. I've owned two Tundras for well over a decade and they are always rock solid on temperatures and oil pressure regardless of conditions. The Chevy did show a rise in temps. I'd buy the Tacoma.
Yeah but remember that the tacoma they are using its a higher trim level over the trail boss....
@@SsnoopNinja I don't think it makes any difference. I'm talking about basic fundamentals like cooling and stability.
Between the brake controller and cruise control, I’d choose cruise control.
Mr truck - Is this a 2004 or 2003? 😂😂
I don’t think Andre caught the humor 😂.
Me too, Mr Truck...me too🙃
He's so annoying. I wish I could mute him. He always says the same exact crap all the time
@@Travisj9935just like your mom
@@samgford😂😂😂
It would have been interesting to monitor boost once at 60mph up the hill. I know I see a lot of sustained boost of 5+ when towing my 5000lb boat at 70+ mph on the interstate with my 2023 Trail Boss.
Give me the Taco all years long , no advertising needed
Silverthorne to the tunnel is a great test! Nicely done !
A Tacoma hunting for gears, never heard that before!! 🤪🤣🤣
it sounded like it was hunting gears when i slowly passed by. i was sorta hunting gears myself in my manual transmission car. couldn't find one it was happy in and eventually dropped out behind them to find a spot the car was happy in.
Not bad on both trucks. The power that Colorado has is nuts. 430tq out of a 4 banger from factory is great.
Great video as always. My only issue with the Toyota is the inside. The screen looks like it was an afterthought, especially on the models with the larger screen. GM and Ford both nailed the interior by comparison. The integration just looks so much better on the Ranger and Colorado compared to the Tacoma.
The screen is an option , you can have bigger screen if you want.
I prefer this look to the others myself
idk about that, especially with the smaller screen in the Taco. In fact, I think the large screen in the Ford looks more so tacky than this.
@@cajjmiar I know, but I think because it isn't really integrated into the dash like the Ranger or Colorado and just some large screen hanging there, it doesn't look very finished.
I understand why you guys like the new Tacoma over the old one. However, I can't see myself ditching my '21 Off Road long-bed for one anytime soon. I like the old-school steering, brakes, and rear suspension, along with the V-6 engine design. It would have been nice for Toyota to have upgraded to the 8-speed sooner. Finally, for the money, the rear seat isn't larger and the payload still - sucks - being honest (my truck has 940 lbs payload). Without more rear legroom and at least 1,500 lbs of payload, Toyota seems to have missed the mark, in my opinion.
As always, it is great that TFL does such in-depth, unbiased reviews.
I would like to see the Ike Gauntlet test run in August in the summer heat. To test the vehicle’s cooling systems.
Agreed! Totally different tow at 90 degrees vs 20 degrees. Most consumers would be towing during the summer months, not the middle of winter.
I’ve towed with my TB in 114° heat throughout Colorado and Utah. The truck dose great. Never even moved the dial on temp for the engine or trans. Even on the Ike. The screen they show in the video is a zoomed in display of the top half of the range. There is another option with actual temp.
Yes, you came up with a great idea, I hope that TFL considers your suggestion!
@@tommybruen4686 What transmission temps were you getting?
Will the 0w20 weight Toyota requires be enough to protect this engine for the long haul? Especially towing
I personally do not think so. I think its a serious mistake to run an oil that light in a turbo'd truck engine like this.
No one mentioned the trans temp on the Chevy vs the Toyota? 😂
What were the temps, I missed that.
They probably don’t have a sensor for it
@@jessaphillips2846 they are running the Bank data monster will tell the as well as the gear.
Look at it again thats just how that gauge is made. It was running right where it should
How could you compare the trans temp? Taco doesn’t even have trans temp…
The Chevrolet crushed the Ike with ease. The Tacoma made good time, but it was really screaming and jumping between gears in order to maintain 60 mph.
Real men watch TFL Truck and Andre and Mr. Truck!!!!! They rock! U.S.A!
Great video, curious to see the Hybrid Taco do this test and see what the extra juice could do.
Problem with the hybrid is the lower tow and haul stats - that battery means a big hit in numbers.
Basically nothing in real world terms. Just like guys were super hyped about the e-torque's affect on performance with the new Ram 1500 when it came out. Everyone heard the electric motor was going to boost the torque and the hype train was in effect. Problem is that torque generated by an electric motor falls dramatically with RPM and the battery doesn't have huge reserves, so it's not going to matter with testing on the Ike Gauntlet.
The Chevy looks so much better… and it outperformed the Toyota!
Naw it doesn’t look better 😂
They look the same. It's like Toyota just copied the colorodo
@@teddonley9594 I love how triggered your pansy ass is 😂🤣
Coolant temp on Chevy was almost maxed out. Between this and the Silverado they had an issue with, seems to be the norm for GM lately. The bad part for this one is it’s winter time.
We need a Mr. Truck wedding video.
Thanks, it might happen
Colorado has a Brake controller but no cruise control. Should be standard.
But Colorado for the price
Another win for the Colorado !!! I love to see it , the Colorado is the Tacoma killer !
Great video, but I really think you guys need to figure out a way of filling these trucks up at the beginning and then topping them off at the end to get a more accurate mpg! We have all seen how inaccurate these computers can be. Maybe bring along a 100 gallon fuel tank in another truck to fill them 🙂
Looks like both trucks aced this test, especially the Taco, being a mid-grade engine
The Colorado had their best engine, and it performed like it.
The best engine for the Taco, the Hybrid Max, hasn't been released yet
The Chevy has the mid power 2.7.
and the chevy is still 4k cheaper will be 10 time you add they hybrid version to the the lil toyo
@@WheresHerb I think Andrea had his Colorado flashed to the HO version....he had talked about wanting to have it done.
@@NukePooch1yes he did
@@WheresHerb You are incorrect.
This is the Hi-Ouput 310 HP engine, with 430 lb ft of torque, much stronger than this engine in the Tacoma. This is the best you can in a Colorado. Tacoma's best will be the Hybrid Max, with 326 HP, but that doesn't come out for a couple of months.
As a guy who owns a truck, trucks are good at being trucks for doing truck stuff.
Nissan Frontier still the best value in the segment, imo
I agree. Plus last non turbo midsized worth any salt. I mean Ridgeline is there too but....
Plus’s there’s no turbo!! And will last longer
@@Tech4Ten The Ridgeline is awesome, not my cup of tea but I respect it
@TheCapn23 Ridgeline is a crossover with a bed. If that's what you want, it's great. Certainly better than a Santa Cruz and probably better than a Maverick, but pricing becomes an issue against Maverick.
The new Nissan V6s are fun rev happy engines for sure.
Can we appreciate the fact that the toyota engine temperature stayed cool while the chevy was nearing max when going up hill.
Man, only 1200lb's payload in the taco so low. Mid size utes in Aus get nearly 1200kg (2500lb approx) payload in work biased vehicles with minimums of 800-900kg in more family friendly versions.
Why are payloads so low in the states? You fill that car with fuel and 5 people and your at your payload. No mods, no ball weight. How does it work?
Who fills a Tacoma with 5 adults?
Yes, that's incredibly weak. Even my very basic 2007 Canyon has a 1600lbs payload limit and I use every last pound of it at times.
Payload is indeed shortchanged with midsize trucks on this continent. They likely want to protect the full size market from shrinking as most owners drive their truck with an empty bed 90% of the time anyway. Also midsize mpg’s numbers are weak compared to full size trucks. Room for improvement in both aspects.
@@ehiggins7476 with what they were towing and just two guys the taco was at the maximum GCWR, if there was a bed mat or a cooler in the truck when towing it would have been overloaded
@@paulhunter9613and would have been pulled over by the payload police. Truck didn’t even break a sweat and handled better than the colorado. Chevy was at the high end of normal temp.