Lack of cruise control. Back in 2000 I bought this 98 Dakota. Awesome truck,great truck, it was the best truck. Short bed single cab 318 V8 4x4. I could get that sucker sideways on dry pavement. The thing did not have cruise control.. Never again!
I think that’s a pretty honest and fair assessment Andre that takes into account both your own needs not being met by this size vehicle and also the service issues the truck presented. That mixture seems realistic for most of us …we buy a vehicle with enthusiasm and over time that enthusiasm is either validated or wanes and usually its not one massive failure its a collection of experiences and elements that again either erode or validate our decision.
Further extending your oil change interval is bad advice. You don't want to push your oil to the limit. You want to change it when it is still good to make sure you always have oil that is maximally lubricating your engine.
While I agree, and 9k seems too long to me, if a specialty lab analysis is saying the oil is still good at 9k, it's still good. No point to extend too far tho. except to save a little money over time.
I’ve had my ‘23 Trail Boss Colorado since June of 2023. I’ve had absolutely no problems! Been doing my oil changes and tire rotation every 5k miles. I had very few minor glitches in the beginning but after the software update this year, I’ve had absolutely no issues. I get about 26mpg on the highway and 19-20 in the city. Love my truck! I do have cruise control 😉
I purchased a 2020 Colorado z71 in early 2020 and had no reliability issues, but I could not stand that 8 speed transmission. I sold it at 100k miles and went with a Nissan Titan pro 4x which I put 27k miles on in the last year, and I'm very happy with. I never go past 5k miles on oil changes and never will.
@oceancochran6706 I was looking at used colorados 16-17 model Years. After doing a bunch of research I ended up getting a super clean 2013 frontier prox4. It has 130,000 miles, all maintenance records and was definitely well taken care of. No regrets!
@@pathunter7003 The Titan is the same size as any other 1500 truck. Nissan doesn't make anything bigger but if a Titan is too small for you then you need to be in a 2500+.
I'm happy with my 23 Trail Boss. I don't mind the sound because it's actually quiet -I was pretty amazed that it's quieter than our car. Nice to see it looks like it held its value pretty well too. I would only move from this to a full size, but just can't justify the $60k prices. There's currently no way to get a vehicle not loaded with electronics, so getting rid of it for that is a wash IMO.
@@VortexArcade I hear you on the full size truck. I've been looking, I found that 2 or 3-year-old f-150s with around 30k miles can be found around 40K pretty easily. That's what I would do, an XLT with four-wheel drive and a rear locker.
I bought a 2022 GMC pro model work truck single cab short bed with the 2.7 engine the same time that TFL bought the Ram Stubby. It is loaded with options and I paid about the same as TFL did for Stubby. 2 years later and at 25,000 miles I am still in love with the truck for my dailey work truck. 1961 Lbs of pay load and it only wieghs 4600 Lbs. It is pretty quick and delivers around 20mpg every tank. It has more front seat interior room than any other truck you can buy and that makes it a great daily driver. I think Andre would like the new Ram RHO.
If you put your truck in tow mode it'd been different results in that race most people don't realize by keeping the tow mode off it's much like turning on the overdrive button on a late 80s or 90s car or truck or putting your vehicle in rain mode by leaving the tow mode off your loosing initial power to the rear wheels & using less emissions if you leave tow mode on it shifts better keeps the transmission cooler & doesn't restrict low end torque the only time I'd shut tow mode off is on highway or in rain or snow etc most people don't realize this
I also bought a 2023 colorado trail boss. I optioned mine out with all the packages and at 22,000 miles I haven't had a single issue (delivery was August 2023). I think skipping out on those packages is a huge mistake. Mine came in at 41ish and I did have to wait a full three months on order when I purchased it. Its not the perfect truck and there are some options I wish were available. I don't need a ZR2 and I wouldn't want a Z71. Chevy could have easily got 44-45k out of me for some interior comforts. With that said I think this is a great truck but it's not for everyone. It has 300ish hp but it doesn't feel or sound like it so on that I completely agree with Andre. The biggest thing I hear is about this being the budget overlander and the off road ability. I would tell anyone wanting to go that route to save up and seriously consider the ZR2.
My manual 98 Civic HX does NOT have it, even though it's the gas mileage model. Go figure. And you can't even plug it in from another trim level. But it does have power windows and mirrors. Who decides this stuff?
The '97 civic manual I had bought new didn't have cruise. It was a dx, so it didn't have power steering, locks, or windows. Parking lots were annoying back then. 😄
I’m at 14k on my 2024 Trailboss. No issues what so ever. Coming from a 2017 Ram, I can appreciate the smaller size. It’s as big as most old school full size pickups. Mine came with cruise and in 2024 it came with the upgraded power. My only complaint is the “tech” is slightly annoying, and it could use a better “tune” for quicker shifting (but who is drag racing and Colorado)
it's a base model mid size pick up truck.. the only options you added was off-road and trailering kit.. I can see why a base model wouldn't have luxury features like cruise control, leather, sunroof, etc.. even the engine is the base model SO version vs the HO version that gives you 310/430. As a regular work truck for someone that doesn't want to spend much it's fine but if you need anything more, you need to upgrade. I have the GMC Canyon AT4X that comes with every option available for any vehicle. Love every minute of driving it.. super fun, super capable, and plenty of power for a midsize truck.. Would never look at a 1500 again..
I second this statement particularly the SO version. There's a lot of videos of the HO version but it would be nice to see the SO and see some testing with that truck.
@@JasPlun I have a feeling Andre will. In a video where he was going over the new tradesman 1500 with the turbo 6, he was making it sound like that was the truck for him.
I would suggest to change oil at 5K miles due to fuel dilution if you plan to keep a vehicle a long time and want the engine to hold up. The way Andre trades trucks so often, it doesn’t matter.
Also depends how you drive. I had my oil tested in my Ranger (2.3 EB) after 8,000 miles and it said I was still good. So its easy enough for me to stick to Easter and Thanksgiving.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 100%. People who drive their turbo motors as grocery getters and short trip vehicles, or idle them a lot, need to be more diligent with oil. I honestly think this was probably a major reason why the first gen 3.5L Ecoboost had so many issues with timing chain stretch. If you are putting down lots of high speed highway and towing then I actually think you can be a bit more relaxed because you are getting the oil hot for extended time and keeping moisture and gas out.
I don't have an issue changing a turbo engine every 5,000 mi but on a naturally aspirated engine I've always changed the oil at 15,000 mi with no issue.
I recently bought a 2024 ZR2 Bison , it’s been an excellent truck for my needs . It’s a great truck as far as I’m concerned and I have no regrets or complaints. I knew what it was when I bought it. I traded in a 2024 RTR Spec 2 Mustang. I have had a ton of different Mustangs and never owned a Chevy . The power of this truck is pretty strong for what it is , it has plenty of torque and enough power for everyday driving. I’ve experienced high horsepower cars and I cannot tell you one time on public roads that I used a 1/3 of the power. So horsepower to me is irrelevant. I don’t wanna lose my license or go to jail 😂 Is it the best truck to pull something with of course not . Is it capable off road , absolutely. The interior is nice and it looks very aggressive on the outside. It’s leaps and bounds better than a Ranger Raptor in my opinion and the Ranger Raptor is what I set out to buy . I just couldn’t get past the red accents on the interior and the vertical screen . Sure it has a V6 but doesn’t matter to me . The power is irrelevant since I’m not racing and the Bison has just as much torque. The Bison is just a better truck as far as I’m concerned.
Great review. I have a 24 Canyon AT4 that has enough bells and whistles but has no garage door opener. Whoever heard of that? 2 big issues for me at 4500 miles are the oil canning on the roof and the thing idles for 30 seconds at 1500rpm before it starts to calm down. The oil canning was supposed to be fixed for '24 but trust me it's not. The idling is driving me crazy, if you put it in gear at 1500 rpm you better have your foot firmly on the brakes. I will be taking it in for both issues soon but I'm sure the dealer will say just live with it.
The high cold idle is an emissions thing, trying to get heat in the cats as quickly as possible. There's nothing the dealer is going to be able to do for it.
@@m9b7v5 I had a 2019 Ranger and loved it except for the Transmission shudder issue (which eventually got worse and was listed in a technical bulletin) I ended up replacing it with a 2024 Tacoma Limited.
@@danieljohnson4418 I totally agree! I just got my Hyundai and as you know they aren’t known for being the most reliable I took it for its first oil change at 4,900 miles and the service people didn’t want to do it because it’s supposed to be done at 7500 I argued with them until they did it.
To be fair these guys have been doing this for over a decade. Buying a short term vehicle to do videos and then sell them to get another vehicle. Aside from a few more prominent publications, these guys are among the first people to do that business model.
Basically you're selling it because you want something different, not because this truck isn't capable or functional enough. That is a very fair reason to replace a car.
Time for a ram 1500 big horn with the straight six is what Andre’s gonna get. He likes the more bang for your buck trims to. He’s had a new Ford, Chev, now it’s Rams turn.
The ram hurricane i6 is under a stop sale. Not available to buy even if you have cash. You cant buy durangos as of today either. No 4xe. No ev chargers.
5:37 "The Car Care Nut" has been in the business for years and recommends not following your manufacturer's recommendations for such long intervals. If you want to have an engine (especially hard working turbo engines) that last you for 200-300K miles, change the oil every 5k miles or every 6 months (due to fuel dilution, where gasoline slowly seep into the oil, diluting it), whichever comes first. Its "cheap insurance" to keep your engine running well over the long haul.
fuel dilution is only a problem if you are idling and short tripping a lot. Otherwise the oil gets hot enough to remove fuel and water. Don't remote start your truck in the winter and let it idle in the driveway for 20 minutes.
@@remsterx Just FYI, Tax Write-Offs don't give you back all of your money, its a small percentage of what you spent. If you're lucky enough to have enough write-offs to overcome the standard deduction, you just pay a little less tax that year. Its just something people say to justify an expense, but you certainly don't come out on top.
I personally would not go past 5,000 miles between oil changes especially with a turbo 4…. And of course a high quality full synthetic oil in the correct viscosity goes without saying…
Modern engines and oil aren't what they where 10 years or more ago. They design them to last. Though here a thing, most of them say something like 10K or once a year. Most of use are going to meet either one of them. You don't need to be changing it more than that. Your just waisting your money doing it more often unless you actually drive/off road it hard. That is a diffrent story but not some one that just a daily driver.
Automatic Transmission should equal cruise control. This is just them putting basic features into higher cost trim levels to make buyers pay more for features that cost almost NOTHING to install.
There's already a handful of content creators that have bought a 3.0L Duramax and done their long term ownership review on them. BTBRV and Tim at Pickup Truck and SUV Talk are two I know of.
Great review, sir! It served you well. I lament the lack of 6 foot bed options on Ford and GM midsized trucks, so I won't buy them. Also, it's everyone's right regarding how they maintain their vehicles. However, I don't buy a used truck from anyone who can't document 5k or less oil changes. For folks who advocate long oil interval changes, they should keep their trucks about 150k and enjoy all those savings on their oil changes if they believe that behavior has no impact on powertain longevity.
He sold the F150 fast because the value was still really good; the market began crashing shortly after he bought the Colorado, and he checked the used value a couple times over the last year and a half to see what he can get, but it was always too low to be willing to sell. It’s finally gotten to the point that the money he can make on videos for a new truck over more videos on the old truck is greater than the loss he takes for selling it and getting a tax write off.
I've enjoyed learning about your Colorado for the past year. It caught my attention when shopping for my current 2020 F150. I've been a fan of TFL ever since. Chevy/GM was my number one brand for more than 25 years, but I really loved the room and comfort of the 2011 F150 I purchased about 5 years ago. I'm a big guy, over 6'2" tall and lived with smaller vehicles for years because that's what I could afford. Your insight and experience has been so valuable to me. Thank you and I look forward to the next "new" Andre Truck!
I change my oil every 5000kms (3000 miles) always have and always will going back to 1984. Never ever have had an engine fail and most of my vehicles get to between 250,000 and 500,000 kms before I trade them in on something else.
The powerboost is the best truck ive seen on this channel. I was super suprised when Andre wensizid size. I see him going back to a hd the next go around
I just Blackstone once every 2 years. They're top-notch, and I follow any advice they give! 2013 Honda crosstour ex 2.4l 225k. Zero issues ever, thankfully.
I wasn’t crazy about the color when you first purchased the truck, but it’s definitely grown on me. How do the Territory MT tires balance out? Is the highway drive smooth without the typical mud terrain noise?
I have a ‘23 Colorado ZR2 and absolutely love it. Personally, I feel it’s spacious enough for my needs and has any bell and whistle I could ask for. Love the truck
@WaffledMags the zr2 is the most useless option. The price you pay for the suspension bits you'll never use makes it a rip off. It does look good but the downgrade in towing really makes the zr2 useless.
@ they def don’t have a ton of storage. I don’t have my Denali anymore so I speak first hand too. Towing at 7500 is fine for most people. If you do construction or other things you would t even be considering a midsize anyways.
@@TheDreverend for day to day needs being a homeowner, the bed is plenty big enough and the cabin is also plenty of space (again for my needs). Not worried about towing, and I’ve taken it offroad. Super, super capable truck for life, fun and work. I think it’s all about personal needs, and my ZR2 definitely fit mine! It definitely looks great too, lol
It was nice to hear your reviews on this truck. I was thinking about it buying one, but I’ve always been a big truck lover so I think I will stick with the big trucks. Thank you.
Thanks for all your videos and for being so honest and transparent about this truck. I’m anxious to see what you get next. I downsized from a 2500HD Duramax to my Colorado V6, but thinking of getting a new Colorado for the extra torque. My 2017 Colorado 8-speed also shifts slowly, but that’s probably due to a torque management feature to preserve the life of the transmission.
This channel and hosts are quickly becoming detached from longtime viewers I’ve watched this channel from the early days and they kept both personal and business owned trucks much longer than they do now. I go back to the days when they were comparing the frontier to Tacoma TRD Baja.
KEEP YOUR OIL CHANGE INTERVLES THE SAME. Lake Speed from the you tube channel Motor Oil Geek says that GM's oil life meter is very accurate and you can actually follow those meters from GM. Do not follow the oil life from any other brand, they're just count down timers. GM actually uses calculations based off what the engine is doing.
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I haven't used cruise control in decades. I've had it in my vehicles, I just don't like it. I'd rather have control over all aspects of my driving, even if l am driving across country.
My dad was looking for a truck. He only uses it to carry tools, tree limbs, and tow a zero turn mower on an aluminum trailer on occasion. So most any truck can do those things fine enough. He was looking at midsize and 1/2 ton trucks, and I recommended he go with a 2025 Ram 1500 as the best to live with daily with room and a comfortable ride. For the '25 refresh, advanced safety features, parking sensors, adaptive cruise, and the 8.4 UConnect are now standard. I could not imagine not having cruise control on a modern vehicle. It was 42k out the door for a Tradesman in the metallic black, so I think it was a better value than the midsize trucks. And it has room for car seats when my parents have grandkids.
Very good review I agree with you. My 23 Colorado has had soft ware issues and still does after undergoing soft ware upgrades. I also can’t go to a car wash because the dryer fan will buckle the roof 😡
I custom ordered a ‘23 trail boss after watching Andre’s early videos. Got tech, towing, safety and convenience packages, spray in bed liner and remote start for just over $42k. At that price point the only thing comparable is a base pro 4x frontier. Good engine in that truck but a lot of electrical gremlins (far beyond updates to the android operating system) and Nissan seems to be on the way out beyond supplying cheap rental and fleet vehicles
I know what you mean about sound... I had a first generation 3.5 EcoBoost I bought brand new in 2012. I drove it for about 175,000 mi and 12 and a half years and decided to go ahead and trade it in and I got my new F-150 with the 5.0 and my god did I miss the V8 sound.
Even if my oil tested spectacularly, which I'm sure it would, I still change mine every 5k or earlier, and I use top shelf oil. Then again, I keep my vehicles Long past their prime til the wheels start to fall off, so I'm with them for the long term and maintain them above board. For people who buy vehicles but treat them like a lease, changing oil less frequently is a 'next guy' problem. It's not doing any favors on the engine for longevity at any rate.
I loved the Colorado content! Your towing and off-road videos helped me decide to buy my ZR2. Over a year of ownership now and I love the truck and have had no major issues!
There seriously is no excuse. Its all handled electronically anyways by the PCM. Aside from a few buttons on the steering wheel, there is no added cost.
I had 19 GMC Canyon All-Terrain for 5 years and V6 was fantastic with 27-30 mpg on highway at 4500 ft elevation, far better what new turbo engine gets. Overall, zero issues and compains. Several coast-coast trips, different climates from alpine tundra to humid tropics. Solid truck. Sold it two weeks ago and got new Nissan Titan Pro4x in baja color.
I really liked that ram rebel you personally speced out you did an exceptional job on it & it seemed to fit you perfectly & it came with cruise control lol however on your next purchase make sure it makes you happy don't just settle GO FURTHER you deserve it best of luck
Automotive and motorcycle channels that also feature their personal vehicles on the channel, for long term ownership reviews, rarely keep their rigs beyond two years. No one wants to watch videos on trucks that are 2,3,4 and 5 years old. People aren't interested in 2+ year old vehicle technology and innovations. The goal is to make interesting content that's fresh, no re-hash the same old truck for 5 years.
The U.S. Army uses the method of Oil Samples to determine the Condition of the Oil. We called it AOAP. Apparently it saves the Army a lot of Money and reduces maintenance downtime.
I had a 2017 Colorado Z71. I got rid of it after I was told by the dealer that the factory had put the WRONG Trans fluid in it. I unloaded it withing 2 weeks of that admission. I loved the truck, it never did shift right. Mine was 3800 V-6.
I worked for GM for 10 year's... GM told workers...We are in the business of selling vehicles, not longevity....If we told buyers really how to change their oil, we wouldn't sell many vehicles because buyers would keep them 400,000+ miles.. Stay with your percentage meter...Oil changes are cheap compared to engine replacement....
I have a trail boss and change mine every 4k miles or so. Like you say, it’s cheap and with these being lifted, easy to crawl under there without even putting it in a jack
If off-roading is your goal, with trailer capability, then the best bang for your buck is a ford f150 with a locker. But, if your goal is trailer hauling and work without off-roading (maybe some light duty stuff), then I would get the Ramcharger.
1:08. And your doing a spectacular job Andre as part of corporate. I’m proud of you every day. Time for you to get a Tahoe. Change it up or at least get a GMC Sierra. Or wait a minute. What if you buy Alex’s dodge Truck since he just bought a Jeep anyway. 🤷♂️. And he is family at Tfl
I will never understand people that constantly get new vehicles and are forever with monthly payments. Why don't you just buy a vehicle and keep it for a couple years, instead of getting a new one every single year and wasting all your money, then complaining about it. These same people go on and on about reliability, and how it is the most important thing, yet they only keep their cars for a year before they get rid of them. Almost every new car will last a year or two before problems, so reliability really isn't an issue.
Many people have that monthly car payment in their budget. If you are always paying $700/month for a vehicle and you have money leftover and can save for retirement then you can have a newer car that is reliable and really nice.
I’m one of those people who go on and on about reliability. Of course my truck is 20 years old and has 300,000 miles on it and I’d confidently drive it across the country tomorrow if needed. They’ll have to pry the keys for my Toyota out of my cold dead hands…
I have a ‘17 Colorado and all in (every dollar spent on that truck, everything you could think of) I’m at $900/mo after 87mos to purchase own and operate. That doesn’t include trade in value. If I trade tomorrow for let’s say $17k it cost me $700/mo after almost 7.5yrs. You can probably lease and operate every 36mos a brand new truck for about the same price I’m guessing and have peace of mind everything is under warranty. I guess what I’m saying it’s not as crazy as it sounds dumping a truck after a few years.
I understand that but they don't make nearly enough content with their personal vehicles to justify the constant yearly rotation. People can do what they want with their money. I'll just never understand the constant need for a new vehicle. Consumer greed at its finest. You can take that 700$ payment and put it in savings or retirement and have more. Most cars are pretty reliable and efficient nowadays. Just keep up the basic maintenance and it'll last you a long time. Today's standard was last years premium. What more nice or luxury things do you want in a vehicle? Tomorrow they'll announce 1 new feature in next year's model and they'll all switch again. Cars are basically Smartphones now. Just my 2 cents. Just something I've observed over the years.
I appreciate all of your input. At least you tried owning a mid sized truck so now your opinion is that much more accurate. I owned one vehicle that didn’t have cruise and that was my 1996 Chevy Corsica.
Hey Andre I bought a 24 canyon Denali and it had so many problems, I decided to also sell mine back to gm. Traded for a 24 Sierra 1500. Happy to talk about it with you. cheers!
I’m not a fan of how you guys are adding video clips into the new videos just to drag it out. It’s not necessary since we’ve seen the original ones already and it conveys that you’re padding the current vid. I find myself stopping the video completely and going elsewhere.
Bought a 2023 Canyon AT4 in Oct 2023. Only owned it for a month Im in Canada and an exporter offered me $7500 More than I paid for it and I had gotten a $3500 Discount on it from my employer so Decided it was a good idea to sell it. Wasn't a bad truck Didn't own it long enough for an honest review but the Canyons were alot nicer than the colorados. It had all the features HUD, Cruise, heated and vented seats. Took that Extra $10,000 Plus what I put down and bought a 2023 Ram Sport since they were 20% off. Really like the RAM so far. I wouldn't buy the SST yet but you could probably get the last year of the HEMI discounted heavily.
This is a perfect example of why you don’t put all your money behind these turbocharged four-cylinder engines. It’s not the same as a V6/V8 even if they try to claim on paper that is somehow magically better.
When I baby my 6.2 over the road my mpg is not so bad I can consider a mid and when I need power no mid can compare not even a ranger raptor so some of us will alway be in the full-size. Having the space and capabilities just makes more sense. especially for big guys. Thanks for the transparency Andre
I wouldn’t buy a midsize truck either… and I also wouldn’t buy a Chevy. Get a real truck Andre… F-150 is the best looking and riding truck on the market and always has been. You’ll be so much happier with it
Im hoping you purchase the new '25 Ram 1500 Warlock with the 3.0 Hurricane for a long term test rig. A lot of us are curious on how the SO Hurricane will do over all your tough testing.
Fantastic video! It’s exciting to see all these exotic cars up close. But I’d recommend that anyone thinking about getting one of these luxury cars should consult a financial advisor first, it’s a massive investment. I’ve been working with a great advisor, Stephanie Janis Stiefel, for years. She has a stellar track record, both in helping me grow my investments and with the right financial planning when I considered getting a luxury car. If anyone’s considering a high-value purchase, she’s someone you should check out. You can find her online pretty easily
Totally agree with you. These cars are beautiful, but making a huge investment without a proper financial plan can be risky. I also work with Stephanie Janis Stiefel, and she really helped me stay grounded when I was eyeing a McLaren. She’s practical, knows the market, and just gets the big picture.
Good point! I know people jump in headfirst with luxury buys, especially with cars like these. I’ve also been working with Stephanie Janis Stiefel for a couple of years, and she’s helped me make smarter choices, especially with bigger purchases like my Aston Martin. Stephanie’s advice kept me from overextending myself, which is priceless when you’re eyeing something that’s more than just a car, it’s a financial commitment.
Thanks for the heads-up. I was actually thinking about getting an exotic car myself, maybe a Ferrari or a Bentley, but I was unsure if it was the right move right now. Could really use an advisor who knows how to guide this sort of decision, and it sounds like Stephanie Janis Stiefel. might be exactly who I need. How do I get in touch with her?
Well her name is 'STEPHANIE JANIS STIEFEL'. Just research the name. You'd find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.
I can back up what everyone’s saying about Stephanie Janis Stiefel. She’s been amazing for me. I looked at buying a Porsche last year, and she helped me map out a plan that didn’t hurt my finances. These cars are beautiful but not worth the stress if they break your bank! Best decision ever to work with her.
Great assessment. I just traded in my 2.7 Bronco and the v6 sound and pull is intoxicating. The ford 4 banger seems no better. Older GMs engine offers made the colorado and canyon contenders but… with only a sewing machine… i got $5 cdn you’ll pick the RAM next.
It's all the electronic stuff around the rearview mirror that makes the sun visors short, I like older vehicles. No cruise control is a deal killer. Thanks 🙏
Andre, don't feel bad about the cruise control. It isn't your fault, but rather the manufactures fault for not packaging the features properly on their ordering system. It seems like a common problem for some manufacturers. I recently bought a gently used commercial cargo van and it was also spec'd without cruise control, but has all the other features that would be "packaged" with cruise control. Frustrating and disappointing, so I know how you feel. Glad to see the trunk you bought to replace it. Enjoy it!
Change your oil MORE frequently.. That's *if* you plan on keeping your vehicle for a long time. You, on the other hand, are getting rid of your truck after less than 2 years of ownership. Because of that, I wouldn't worry about it. That's for the next owner to worry about...
Nice little truck. I can definitely see it not being big enough, though. Especially with a family and all that. I wouldn't get my hopes up about another GM truck or different brand having better service or less software issues, though. Being a fellow 2.7 owner, i feel your pain on the sound of the engine. I feel like i could easily overlook it if it got better mileage, but I honestly think I'd get as good of mileage with a 5.3. I know my '20 Yukon XL gets better mileage than my '23 Silverado with the 2.7. Overall, I'd have to admit that I've got a bit of a soft spot for the engine. The engineering that went into it and the performance it has for what it is is really impressive. I will always be glad to have been a part of it. Regardless of whether I buy another.
Dang, no cruise control on that truck. Huh! Never heard that about Andres truck. Hey Andre, you should try to get cruise control on your next truck! My wife has it on her 24 Colorado Bison and it works great! Heck, my lawnmower has it too and that’s 25 years old! All jokes aside, thanks for the content big guy! Good luck on your new truck hunt. They do have power windows nowadays too!
Hopefully the software issues resonate with GM. I know I've had a few issues. Just recently my HVAC system stopped functioning through the infotainment system despite it still working with the physical controls. The truck only needed an update but having to go into the dealer and spend 3 hours on my day off for a software update is annoying. I also had a major issue when I first bought it with the backup camera. There was a damaged harness underneath the passenger seat that was messing up the ground. The truck was throwing codes for the safety restraint system due to it too. Took 3 separate visits along with leaving the truck at the dealer until a GM engineer came out and diagnosed and repaired the issue. GM was only going to offer me 300 dollars in reward points for the inconvenience. Lastly, the spring to the latching mechanism to my fuel door was defective. Unbelievable. Mines a 24 as well so you would think these issues wouldn't necessarily be as widespread but they most certainly are. I think you're going to run into issues with any of the new trucks though since the new Tacomas have their own problems and Ford's have always been problematic. A coworker of mine has a 19 Ranger and the transmission crapped out on him after 40k miles.
I just can't believe that long oil change intervals on turbo engines is a good long term plan. I''m probably going to waste money on unnecesary oil changes. Friends of mine you have had ecoboosts and had trouble after 100k with turbos and other problems They followed approx a 10k oil change interval with synthetic. I know my oil looks dark after just 3k with 3.5 ecoboost. maybe I'lll do an oil analysis next time.
good review. TFL helped me a lot in this segment I just purchased a 2024 Jeep Gladiator Willis. I was thinking about the trail boss and the xlt ranger. man-vertible for the win at $46k
I bought a Canyon AT4. Which I love. One of my issues was my truck was one of the vehicles affected by the headlight flickering. But to my understanding were bad headlight modules. Unfortunately, still waiting on the parts to come in. Now, the other day I got in to leave Starbucks and my 2H stayed yellow. It wouldn't allow me to switch out of 2H. Don't know what that was. I gave it a few hours, started it again. And it was back to normal. Going to have that looked at as well. All in all, I'm happy with my truck. The 4 cylinder turbo does make me a little nervous. About longevity. But to my understanding they are pretty much the same ones they have been in the lower trim of Silverado's for about several years. With no major issues. So, hopefully that continues.
No cruise?
How is that not standard?
Deal breaker
It is now after this fiasco
@@2dthoughts how does a 1999 Toyota Corolla have cruise control and this doesn’t
@@2dthoughts Adaptive cruise, it, has normal cruise control
@@chris-qo1ntno, not even normal cruise for this Chevy 🤦♂️
Cruise Control is now standard on 2025 models. It was optional on 2023 and 2024 models.
Lack of cruise control.
Lack of cruise control. Back in 2000 I bought this 98 Dakota. Awesome truck,great truck, it was the best truck. Short bed single cab 318 V8 4x4. I could get that sucker sideways on dry pavement. The thing did not have cruise control.. Never again!
I was going to say the same thing even before I watched the video.
😂😂😂😂😂🛻👍
I would have lost my license without cruise control. Speed drifts upward a bit too easily in modern cars.
Same. Still cant believe it
I think that’s a pretty honest and fair assessment Andre that takes into account both your own needs not being met by this size vehicle and also the service issues the truck presented. That mixture seems realistic for most of us …we buy a vehicle with enthusiasm and over time that enthusiasm is either validated or wanes and usually its not one massive failure its a collection of experiences and elements that again either erode or validate our decision.
@@higg2156 That’s absolutely spot on regardless of the brand , or whether you’re an enthusiasts or not .
Further extending your oil change interval is bad advice. You don't want to push your oil to the limit. You want to change it when it is still good to make sure you always have oil that is maximally lubricating your engine.
While I agree, and 9k seems too long to me, if a specialty lab analysis is saying the oil is still good at 9k, it's still good. No point to extend too far tho. except to save a little money over time.
These guys don’t keep their vehicles long enough to ever worry about changing the oil 😂
Agreed. While the results were good, it did have too much gasoline in the oil.
Agreed. I did my oil changes at the Chevy dealer. This is factory recommended oil, and it goes well for 9,500 miles.
@@rf14dmb ok but is every employee at blackstone labs a mechanic it’s easy to compare numbers
We have10 of these for a local phone co. They are over 2y old never had any trouble. All have over 80k miles now only issues were a few AC issues
I’ve had my ‘23 Trail Boss Colorado since June of 2023. I’ve had absolutely no problems! Been doing my oil changes and tire rotation every 5k miles. I had very few minor glitches in the beginning but after the software update this year, I’ve had absolutely no issues. I get about 26mpg on the highway and 19-20 in the city. Love my truck! I do have cruise control 😉
I purchased a 2020 Colorado z71 in early 2020 and had no reliability issues, but I could not stand that 8 speed transmission. I sold it at 100k miles and went with a Nissan Titan pro 4x which I put 27k miles on in the last year, and I'm very happy with. I never go past 5k miles on oil changes and never will.
I traded a 2022 F150 for a Titan Pro4X and haven't looked back. The Titans are great trucks.
@@johnk6206 titan trucks are too small
@oceancochran6706 I was looking at used colorados 16-17 model Years. After doing a bunch of research I ended up getting a super clean 2013 frontier prox4. It has 130,000 miles, all maintenance records and was definitely well taken care of. No regrets!
@@pathunter7003 Titans are no smaller in exterior or interior dimensions than silverados or F150’s.
@@pathunter7003 The Titan is the same size as any other 1500 truck. Nissan doesn't make anything bigger but if a Titan is too small for you then you need to be in a 2500+.
I'm happy with my 23 Trail Boss. I don't mind the sound because it's actually quiet -I was pretty amazed that it's quieter than our car.
Nice to see it looks like it held its value pretty well too. I would only move from this to a full size, but just can't justify the $60k prices. There's currently no way to get a vehicle not loaded with electronics, so getting rid of it for that is a wash IMO.
@@VortexArcade I hear you on the full size truck. I've been looking, I found that 2 or 3-year-old f-150s with around 30k miles can be found around 40K pretty easily. That's what I would do, an XLT with four-wheel drive and a rear locker.
Except for the 2024 Nissan Titan pro4x
@@kurtbeck5809 I had an 04 Titan. It was a great truck, but I wouldn't even consider a new Titan. It's a dead-end, discontinued due to poor sales.
I bought a 2022 GMC pro model work truck single cab short bed with the 2.7 engine the same time that TFL bought the Ram Stubby. It is loaded with options and I paid about the same as TFL did for Stubby. 2 years later and at 25,000 miles I am still in love with the truck for my dailey work truck. 1961 Lbs of pay load and it only wieghs 4600 Lbs. It is pretty quick and delivers around 20mpg every tank. It has more front seat interior room than any other truck you can buy and that makes it a great daily driver. I think Andre would like the new Ram RHO.
If you put your truck in tow mode it'd been different results in that race most people don't realize by keeping the tow mode off it's much like turning on the overdrive button on a late 80s or 90s car or truck or putting your vehicle in rain mode by leaving the tow mode off your loosing initial power to the rear wheels & using less emissions if you leave tow mode on it shifts better keeps the transmission cooler & doesn't restrict low end torque the only time I'd shut tow mode off is on highway or in rain or snow etc most people don't realize this
I also bought a 2023 colorado trail boss. I optioned mine out with all the packages and at 22,000 miles I haven't had a single issue (delivery was August 2023). I think skipping out on those packages is a huge mistake. Mine came in at 41ish and I did have to wait a full three months on order when I purchased it. Its not the perfect truck and there are some options I wish were available. I don't need a ZR2 and I wouldn't want a Z71. Chevy could have easily got 44-45k out of me for some interior comforts. With that said I think this is a great truck but it's not for everyone. It has 300ish hp but it doesn't feel or sound like it so on that I completely agree with Andre.
The biggest thing I hear is about this being the budget overlander and the off road ability. I would tell anyone wanting to go that route to save up and seriously consider the ZR2.
My manual 1998 Honda Civic even has cruise control. How it's not a standard feature on every vehicle for the past 20 years is laughable.
@NoLimitsCommemorativ its stander on the 2025 Colorado now it should have been from the beginning
It's standard on the 2025 colorado now it should have been from the beginning
My 2002 Subaru WRX (5 speed manual) has it. My 2002 Dodge Neon (5 speed manual) did not.
My manual 98 Civic HX does NOT have it, even though it's the gas mileage model. Go figure. And you can't even plug it in from another trim level. But it does have power windows and mirrors. Who decides this stuff?
The '97 civic manual I had bought new didn't have cruise. It was a dx, so it didn't have power steering, locks, or windows. Parking lots were annoying back then. 😄
I’m at 14k on my 2024 Trailboss. No issues what so ever. Coming from a 2017 Ram, I can appreciate the smaller size. It’s as big as most old school full size pickups. Mine came with cruise and in 2024 it came with the upgraded power. My only complaint is the “tech” is slightly annoying, and it could use a better “tune” for quicker shifting (but who is drag racing and Colorado)
I do my oil changes every 5K miles like clockwork. Oil is cheap compared to a new engine.
When it comes to changing your oil, do it more often. Oil protects the motor. What it goes through daily as you drive, it’s truly amazing.
lets use context, think what was being said is put some heavy miles on the oil and send it to us. not so much change the oil less frequently.
it's a base model mid size pick up truck.. the only options you added was off-road and trailering kit.. I can see why a base model wouldn't have luxury features like cruise control, leather, sunroof, etc.. even the engine is the base model SO version vs the HO version that gives you 310/430. As a regular work truck for someone that doesn't want to spend much it's fine but if you need anything more, you need to upgrade. I have the GMC Canyon AT4X that comes with every option available for any vehicle. Love every minute of driving it.. super fun, super capable, and plenty of power for a midsize truck.. Would never look at a 1500 again..
Get a Ram for your next truck we need more data from the Inline 6 Hurricane engine with real world hands on everyday use.
I second this statement particularly the SO version. There's a lot of videos of the HO version but it would be nice to see the SO and see some testing with that truck.
@JasPlun i dont even see any hurricane engine rams available for sale in my area. They under the stop sale. Only the 3.6l are available
I was at the Ram dealer and every windows sticker said MADE IN MEXICO . NO THANKS! explains a lot.
@@JasPlun I have a feeling Andre will. In a video where he was going over the new tradesman 1500 with the turbo 6, he was making it sound like that was the truck for him.
But I keep hearing bad things
I would suggest to change oil at 5K miles due to fuel dilution if you plan to keep a vehicle a long time and want the engine to hold up. The way Andre trades trucks so often, it doesn’t matter.
Also depends how you drive. I had my oil tested in my Ranger (2.3 EB) after 8,000 miles and it said I was still good. So its easy enough for me to stick to Easter and Thanksgiving.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 may your engine rest in peace!
@@bufords I'm gonna trust the oil analysis more than ancient wisdom of armchair mechanics.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 100%. People who drive their turbo motors as grocery getters and short trip vehicles, or idle them a lot, need to be more diligent with oil. I honestly think this was probably a major reason why the first gen 3.5L Ecoboost had so many issues with timing chain stretch.
If you are putting down lots of high speed highway and towing then I actually think you can be a bit more relaxed because you are getting the oil hot for extended time and keeping moisture and gas out.
I don't have an issue changing a turbo engine every 5,000 mi but on a naturally aspirated engine I've always changed the oil at 15,000 mi with no issue.
I recently bought a 2024 ZR2 Bison , it’s been an excellent truck for my needs .
It’s a great truck as far as I’m concerned and I have no regrets or complaints.
I knew what it was when I bought it.
I traded in a 2024 RTR Spec 2 Mustang. I have had a ton of different Mustangs and never owned a Chevy .
The power of this truck is pretty strong for what it is , it has plenty of torque and enough power for everyday driving.
I’ve experienced high horsepower cars and I cannot tell you one time on public roads that I used a 1/3 of the power.
So horsepower to me is irrelevant.
I don’t wanna lose my license or go to jail 😂
Is it the best truck to pull something with of course not .
Is it capable off road , absolutely.
The interior is nice and it looks very aggressive on the outside.
It’s leaps and bounds better than a Ranger Raptor in my opinion and the Ranger Raptor is what I set out to buy . I just couldn’t get past the red accents on the interior and the vertical screen . Sure it has a V6 but doesn’t matter to me . The power is irrelevant since I’m not racing and the Bison has just as much torque.
The Bison is just a better truck as far as I’m concerned.
I totally stand by what you said!
Great review. I have a 24 Canyon AT4 that has enough bells and whistles but has no garage door opener. Whoever heard of that? 2 big issues for me at 4500 miles are the oil canning on the roof and the thing idles for 30 seconds at 1500rpm before it starts to calm down. The oil canning was supposed to be fixed for '24 but trust me it's not. The idling is driving me crazy, if you put it in gear at 1500 rpm you better have your foot firmly on the brakes. I will be taking it in for both issues soon but I'm sure the dealer will say just live with it.
The high cold idle is an emissions thing, trying to get heat in the cats as quickly as possible. There's nothing the dealer is going to be able to do for it.
Thanks for the review. Glad I went with Ranger.
@@m9b7v5 I had a 2019 Ranger and loved it except for the Transmission shudder issue (which eventually got worse and was listed in a technical bulletin) I ended up replacing it with a 2024 Tacoma Limited.
If you care about the mechanical longevity and reliability of your vehicle, the answer is simple: change the oil and filter every 5,000 miles.
Never exceed 3,000 miles if you care about your vehicle.
@Cloud30000 : I respectfully disagree. Given the superiority of modern oils, 3,000-mile oil change intervals are simply overkill.
@@Cloud30000 always change it at 700 miles or once a week
Go by oil analysis and really put science behind the talk
@@danieljohnson4418 I totally agree! I just got my Hyundai and as you know they aren’t known for being the most reliable I took it for its first oil change at 4,900 miles and the service people didn’t want to do it because it’s supposed to be done at 7500 I argued with them until they did it.
*Let me guess like every Automotive TH-camr you have to keep changing your rides for more views ??* FOR THE RECORD I'M NOT HATING ON TFL !!!!
It’s a business. Always turn your product to gain new profit.
True, but it is their business.
To be fair these guys have been doing this for over a decade. Buying a short term vehicle to do videos and then sell them to get another vehicle. Aside from a few more prominent publications, these guys are among the first people to do that business model.
Ah, yeeeees 😉
Of course. Would you watch Andre just drive around in the same vehicle every week? It's an auto review channel.
I would never recommend 12k miles between oil changes. I stick to every 5k and I have a 2023 Tacoma that recommends every 10k.
I don't recommend it either as that's only half life and a waste. 5k miles is a laughable waste. *laughs in amsoil*
Basically you're selling it because you want something different, not because this truck isn't capable or functional enough. That is a very fair reason to replace a car.
He's looking to upgrade to cruise control.
Time for a ram 1500 big horn with the straight six is what Andre’s gonna get. He likes the more bang for your buck trims to. He’s had a new Ford, Chev, now it’s Rams turn.
The ram hurricane i6 is under a stop sale. Not available to buy even if you have cash. You cant buy durangos as of today either. No 4xe. No ev chargers.
don't make me 🤮 RAM is GARBAGE! I hope Andre has better taste than RAMELANTIS
@@moth450 it's not. I can see over 300 for sale near my zip code
I wouldn't be buying anything from Stellantis right now, hard to say how much longer they'll be in business in the US.
5:37 "The Car Care Nut" has been in the business for years and recommends not following your manufacturer's recommendations for such long intervals. If you want to have an engine (especially hard working turbo engines) that last you for 200-300K miles, change the oil every 5k miles or every 6 months (due to fuel dilution, where gasoline slowly seep into the oil, diluting it), whichever comes first. Its "cheap insurance" to keep your engine running well over the long haul.
fuel dilution is only a problem if you are idling and short tripping a lot. Otherwise the oil gets hot enough to remove fuel and water.
Don't remote start your truck in the winter and let it idle in the driveway for 20 minutes.
Andre, buying a new truck every couple of years will get very expensive, unless TFL is helping.
@@jpmiller99 tax write off
@@remsterxYeap, sure it is a business expense.
It’s not expensive at all if you don’t have negative equity. I do it every 6-18 months.
@JohnDoe-nz6bk lol your only not having negative equity unless your putting cash into it,its a pay me now or pay me later thing.
@@remsterx Just FYI, Tax Write-Offs don't give you back all of your money, its a small percentage of what you spent. If you're lucky enough to have enough write-offs to overcome the standard deduction, you just pay a little less tax that year. Its just something people say to justify an expense, but you certainly don't come out on top.
I personally would not go past 5,000 miles between oil changes especially with a turbo 4…. And of course a high quality full synthetic oil in the correct viscosity goes without saying…
Modern engines and oil aren't what they where 10 years or more ago. They design them to last. Though here a thing, most of them say something like 10K or once a year. Most of use are going to meet either one of them. You don't need to be changing it more than that. Your just waisting your money doing it more often unless you actually drive/off road it hard. That is a diffrent story but not some one that just a daily driver.
Automatic Transmission should equal cruise control. This is just them putting basic features into higher cost trim levels to make buyers pay more for features that cost almost NOTHING to install.
Andre, how about a long term review on the 3.0 Duramax?
There are many videos of people with the 3.0, it’s super reliable.
Great engine...crap electronics.
Love my Silverado ZR2 with the 3.0L Duramax!
Agreed, or a ram. I'm heavily considering the 3.0 diesel, 30mpg on a full size truck?
There's already a handful of content creators that have bought a 3.0L Duramax and done their long term ownership review on them. BTBRV and Tim at Pickup Truck and SUV Talk are two I know of.
Great review, sir! It served you well. I lament the lack of 6 foot bed options on Ford and GM midsized trucks, so I won't buy them.
Also, it's everyone's right regarding how they maintain their vehicles.
However, I don't buy a used truck from anyone who can't document 5k or less oil changes.
For folks who advocate long oil interval changes, they should keep their trucks about 150k and enjoy all those savings on their oil changes if they believe that behavior has no impact on powertain longevity.
What’s the point of a 4 cylinder if you’re only getting 20 mpg?
It makes people feel like they are saving the environment. It really is just a crock of sh@t.
I also am bit disapointed on the engine sound on my 2024 Chevy Trail Boss... but I did ordered the adaptive cruise control 😏
Let me guess...you need something a bit more spacious and more capable.
Andre is a big guy, needs a full size truck.
He’s a TH-camr. At the end of the day, it’s a business. And reviewing trucks is his business. I’m surprised he kept it this long.
@doublebackagain4311 yeah he sold the f150 for the Colorado
@@rileypettit4832 And before that a Duramax Silverado for the F150.
He sold the F150 fast because the value was still really good; the market began crashing shortly after he bought the Colorado, and he checked the used value a couple times over the last year and a half to see what he can get, but it was always too low to be willing to sell.
It’s finally gotten to the point that the money he can make on videos for a new truck over more videos on the old truck is greater than the loss he takes for selling it and getting a tax write off.
I've enjoyed learning about your Colorado for the past year. It caught my attention when shopping for my current 2020 F150. I've been a fan of TFL ever since. Chevy/GM was my number one brand for more than 25 years, but I really loved the room and comfort of the 2011 F150 I purchased about 5 years ago. I'm a big guy, over 6'2" tall and lived with smaller vehicles for years because that's what I could afford. Your insight and experience has been so valuable to me. Thank you and I look forward to the next "new" Andre Truck!
I change my oil every 5000kms (3000 miles) always have and always will going back to 1984.
Never ever have had an engine fail and most of my vehicles get to between 250,000 and 500,000 kms before I trade them in on something else.
Very smart.... Your chances are high that you could get over 500,000 miles... 1995 F150 5.0 343,781 full synthetic 3000 miles..
3,000 miles is throwing away good oil if you are using synthetic.
The powerboost is the best truck ive seen on this channel. I was super suprised when Andre wensizid size. I see him going back to a hd the next go around
I have no ideal on what you will replace the Colorado with, but I do know one thing for sure, your next truck will have cruise control 😁
I just Blackstone once every 2 years. They're top-notch, and I follow any advice they give!
2013 Honda crosstour ex 2.4l 225k. Zero issues ever, thankfully.
I say change your oil when the vehicle tells you, regardless what the labs say. Oil and filters are cheap compared to a new engine. Just my opinion.
Are what your manual tells you, cause that is going of the engineers design for the engine and oil normal wear.
I wasn’t crazy about the color when you first purchased the truck, but it’s definitely grown on me. How do the Territory MT tires balance out? Is the highway drive smooth without the typical mud terrain noise?
I have a ‘23 Colorado ZR2 and absolutely love it. Personally, I feel it’s spacious enough for my needs and has any bell and whistle I could ask for. Love the truck
@@WaffledMags yeah the ZR2 and Denali are really nice and have everything. His is so base model I can see why he wants to get rid of it.
@WaffledMags the zr2 is the most useless option. The price you pay for the suspension bits you'll never use makes it a rip off. It does look good but the downgrade in towing really makes the zr2 useless.
@ethenjordan2010 midsized trucks are useless. Got rid of my ranger this year because of the lack of storage space. They are tou trucks.
@ they def don’t have a ton of storage. I don’t have my Denali anymore so I speak first hand too. Towing at 7500 is fine for most people. If you do construction or other things you would t even be considering a midsize anyways.
@@TheDreverend for day to day needs being a homeowner, the bed is plenty big enough and the cabin is also plenty of space (again for my needs). Not worried about towing, and I’ve taken it offroad. Super, super capable truck for life, fun and work. I think it’s all about personal needs, and my ZR2 definitely fit mine! It definitely looks great too, lol
It was nice to hear your reviews on this truck. I was thinking about it buying one, but I’ve always been a big truck lover so I think I will stick with the big trucks. Thank you.
If 20,000 miles is long term, what would be my 140,000 mile 6.4 2500 RAM be. It has cruise control too!😁
Extra long term?
Who cares.
@@nospark333 not me little feller.
Thanks for all your videos and for being so honest and transparent about this truck. I’m anxious to see what you get next. I downsized from a 2500HD Duramax to my Colorado V6, but thinking of getting a new Colorado for the extra torque. My 2017 Colorado 8-speed also shifts slowly, but that’s probably due to a torque management feature to preserve the life of the transmission.
This channel and hosts are quickly becoming detached from longtime viewers I’ve watched this channel from the early days and they kept both personal and business owned trucks much longer than they do now. I go back to the days when they were comparing the frontier to Tacoma TRD Baja.
Thanks for watching for so long. FYI: we’ve had our Ram Cummins for almost three years?
KEEP YOUR OIL CHANGE INTERVLES THE SAME. Lake Speed from the you tube channel Motor Oil Geek says that GM's oil life meter is very accurate and you can actually follow those meters from GM. Do not follow the oil life from any other brand, they're just count down timers. GM actually uses calculations based off what the engine is doing.
I haven't used cruise control in decades. I've had it in my vehicles, I just don't like it. I'd rather have control over all aspects of my driving, even if l am driving across country.
I purchased my 23 Colorado in July of 23. Made a number of mods and added a roof top tent. I love mine and will probably never sell it.
I want to like Chevrolet. I really do. But they have a nasty addiction to screwing up. What happened, Mary Barra?
My dad was looking for a truck. He only uses it to carry tools, tree limbs, and tow a zero turn mower on an aluminum trailer on occasion. So most any truck can do those things fine enough.
He was looking at midsize and 1/2 ton trucks, and I recommended he go with a 2025 Ram 1500 as the best to live with daily with room and a comfortable ride. For the '25 refresh, advanced safety features, parking sensors, adaptive cruise, and the 8.4 UConnect are now standard. I could not imagine not having cruise control on a modern vehicle.
It was 42k out the door for a Tradesman in the metallic black, so I think it was a better value than the midsize trucks. And it has room for car seats when my parents have grandkids.
Very good review I agree with you. My 23 Colorado has had soft ware issues and still does after undergoing soft ware upgrades. I also can’t go to a car wash because the dryer fan will buckle the roof 😡
Did you buy the truck because of its quarter mile time, or for something more substantive???
Some folks find the performance capabilities (or lack thereof) to be quite important…
As I said, I bought it to do everything. Towing my boat, going camping, road trips, off-road trips, and much much more.
Extended oil change intervals are not a positive feature for longevity or for resale, imo.
I custom ordered a ‘23 trail boss after watching Andre’s early videos. Got tech, towing, safety and convenience packages, spray in bed liner and remote start for just over $42k.
At that price point the only thing comparable is a base pro 4x frontier. Good engine in that truck but a lot of electrical gremlins (far beyond updates to the android operating system) and Nissan seems to be on the way out beyond supplying cheap rental and fleet vehicles
Good, honest review.
And you said VIN not vin number. Proud of you brother! Lol.
I know what you mean about sound... I had a first generation 3.5 EcoBoost I bought brand new in 2012. I drove it for about 175,000 mi and 12 and a half years and decided to go ahead and trade it in and I got my new F-150 with the 5.0 and my god did I miss the V8 sound.
Thats the only advantage. I love quiet EB
@02hreblue30 to each their own, I've always been a displacement guy but that Ecoboost was a great engine.
My 2024 zr2 Colorado bison is the best driving truck i have owned. Just amazing truck
Even if my oil tested spectacularly, which I'm sure it would, I still change mine every 5k or earlier, and I use top shelf oil. Then again, I keep my vehicles Long past their prime til the wheels start to fall off, so I'm with them for the long term and maintain them above board. For people who buy vehicles but treat them like a lease, changing oil less frequently is a 'next guy' problem. It's not doing any favors on the engine for longevity at any rate.
I loved the Colorado content! Your towing and off-road videos helped me decide to buy my ZR2. Over a year of ownership now and I love the truck and have had no major issues!
I still cant believe this truck came without cruise control
There seriously is no excuse. Its all handled electronically anyways by the PCM. Aside from a few buttons on the steering wheel, there is no added cost.
I had 19 GMC Canyon All-Terrain for 5 years and V6 was fantastic with 27-30 mpg on highway at 4500 ft elevation, far better what new turbo engine gets. Overall, zero issues and compains. Several coast-coast trips, different climates from alpine tundra to humid tropics. Solid truck.
Sold it two weeks ago and got new Nissan Titan Pro4x in baja color.
Well now Ford is putting the 2.7 ecoboost in the Ranger. You would really get left by that one! GM sucks dude!
I really liked that ram rebel you personally speced out you did an exceptional job on it & it seemed to fit you perfectly & it came with cruise control lol however on your next purchase make sure it makes you happy don't just settle GO FURTHER you deserve it best of luck
Stop being cheap on every car you buy you waste more money trading than getting something you actually want
Automotive and motorcycle channels that also feature their personal vehicles on the channel, for long term ownership reviews, rarely keep their rigs beyond two years. No one wants to watch videos on trucks that are 2,3,4 and 5 years old. People aren't interested in 2+ year old vehicle technology and innovations. The goal is to make interesting content that's fresh, no re-hash the same old truck for 5 years.
@@deltabravo1257 but he bought an old Toyota no longer made. There goes your theory
The U.S. Army uses the method of Oil Samples to determine the Condition of the Oil. We called it AOAP. Apparently it saves the Army a lot of Money and reduces maintenance downtime.
How much money will you lose???
Hes a youtuber they never lose more then 2 or 3 hundred
It's literally their business model to turn over units so they have fresh content
@@TomStarcevich-fb3qolol none it’s a tax rite for ff . Pluse tfl is paying for it
I purchased the truck at $40,500 in April 2023. Used value is currently at around $34,000.
Regardless, it will be worth less than my 2018 tacoma. (Laughs maniacally in good timing purchase)
I had a 2017 Colorado Z71. I got rid of it after I was told by the dealer that the factory had put the WRONG Trans fluid in it. I unloaded it withing 2 weeks of that admission. I loved the truck, it never did shift right. Mine was 3800 V-6.
I'd sell it for the color alone but no cruse control, yea she is gone....
The brother in law has got a Trail Boss in gray, he really loves it. I think he purchased his around the same time as Andre
I worked for GM for 10 year's... GM told workers...We are in the business of selling vehicles, not longevity....If we told buyers really how to change their oil, we wouldn't sell many vehicles because buyers would keep them 400,000+ miles.. Stay with your percentage meter...Oil changes are cheap compared to engine replacement....
I have a trail boss and change mine every 4k miles or so. Like you say, it’s cheap and with these being lifted, easy to crawl under there without even putting it in a jack
If off-roading is your goal, with trailer capability, then the best bang for your buck is a ford f150 with a locker. But, if your goal is trailer hauling and work without off-roading (maybe some light duty stuff), then I would get the Ramcharger.
I can’t fathom why a 6’ 3” guy with a family would buy that tiny truck.
Tiny truck the size of a full size from 1995?
6'2" guy here, no family. I got a Toyota 4Runner. Love it. It's gonna last me 4Ever LOL :D
Tiny? Today's "mid-size" trucks are the size of what used to be full sized trucks.
1:08. And your doing a spectacular job Andre as part of corporate. I’m proud of you every day. Time for you to get a Tahoe. Change it up or at least get a GMC Sierra. Or wait a minute. What if you buy Alex’s dodge Truck since he just bought a Jeep anyway. 🤷♂️. And he is family at Tfl
I will never understand people that constantly get new vehicles and are forever with monthly payments. Why don't you just buy a vehicle and keep it for a couple years, instead of getting a new one every single year and wasting all your money, then complaining about it.
These same people go on and on about reliability, and how it is the most important thing, yet they only keep their cars for a year before they get rid of them. Almost every new car will last a year or two before problems, so reliability really isn't an issue.
@@Fernando-t8g because they use it for content in the videos. People get tired of seeing the same vehicle once the content has run its course
Many people have that monthly car payment in their budget. If you are always paying $700/month for a vehicle and you have money leftover and can save for retirement then you can have a newer car that is reliable and really nice.
I’m one of those people who go on and on about reliability. Of course my truck is 20 years old and has 300,000 miles on it and I’d confidently drive it across the country tomorrow if needed. They’ll have to pry the keys for my Toyota out of my cold dead hands…
I have a ‘17 Colorado and all in (every dollar spent on that truck, everything you could think of) I’m at $900/mo after 87mos to purchase own and operate.
That doesn’t include trade in value. If I trade tomorrow for let’s say $17k it cost me $700/mo after almost 7.5yrs. You can probably lease and operate every 36mos a brand new truck for about the same price I’m guessing and have peace of mind everything is under warranty.
I guess what I’m saying it’s not as crazy as it sounds dumping a truck after a few years.
I understand that but they don't make nearly enough content with their personal vehicles to justify the constant yearly rotation.
People can do what they want with their money. I'll just never understand the constant need for a new vehicle. Consumer greed at its finest.
You can take that 700$ payment and put it in savings or retirement and have more.
Most cars are pretty reliable and efficient nowadays. Just keep up the basic maintenance and it'll last you a long time. Today's standard was last years premium. What more nice or luxury things do you want in a vehicle?
Tomorrow they'll announce 1 new feature in next year's model and they'll all switch again. Cars are basically Smartphones now.
Just my 2 cents. Just something I've observed over the years.
I appreciate all of your input. At least you tried owning a mid sized truck so now your opinion is that much more accurate. I owned one vehicle that didn’t have cruise and that was my 1996 Chevy Corsica.
@@zjp692004 see the similarities, both were GM’s.
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Hey Andre I bought a 24 canyon Denali and it had so many problems, I decided to also sell mine back to gm. Traded for a 24 Sierra 1500. Happy to talk about it with you. cheers!
I’m not a fan of how you guys are adding video clips into the new videos just to drag it out. It’s not necessary since we’ve seen the original ones already and it conveys that you’re padding the current vid. I find myself stopping the video completely and going elsewhere.
Bought a 2023 Canyon AT4 in Oct 2023. Only owned it for a month Im in Canada and an exporter offered me $7500 More than I paid for it and I had gotten a $3500 Discount on it from my employer so Decided it was a good idea to sell it. Wasn't a bad truck Didn't own it long enough for an honest review but the Canyons were alot nicer than the colorados. It had all the features HUD, Cruise, heated and vented seats. Took that Extra $10,000 Plus what I put down and bought a 2023 Ram Sport since they were 20% off. Really like the RAM so far. I wouldn't buy the SST yet but you could probably get the last year of the HEMI discounted heavily.
This is a perfect example of why you don’t put all your money behind these turbocharged four-cylinder engines. It’s not the same as a
V6/V8 even if they try to claim on paper that is somehow magically better.
Ya. Gm had a great 6cyl and they should’ve kept it
When I baby my 6.2 over the road my mpg is not so bad I can consider a mid and when I need power no mid can compare not even a ranger raptor so some of us will alway be in the full-size. Having the space and capabilities just makes more sense. especially for big guys. Thanks for the transparency Andre
I wouldn’t buy a midsize truck either… and I also wouldn’t buy a Chevy.
Get a real truck Andre… F-150 is the best looking and riding truck on the market and always has been. You’ll be so much happier with it
😂
F150- yawn.
Found On the Road Dead! 😂
He had one before this one.
Im hoping you purchase the new '25 Ram 1500 Warlock with the 3.0 Hurricane for a long term test rig. A lot of us are curious on how the SO Hurricane will do over all your tough testing.
Although I like the appearance of the new Colorado and Canyon, I think GM perhaps used Toyota as an appearance template.
I can't wait to see what you end up replacing the Colorado with Andre. Whatever it is, I know it will have great acceleration and engine sound. 👍
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Totally agree with you. These cars are beautiful, but making a huge investment without a proper financial plan can be risky. I also work with Stephanie Janis Stiefel, and she really helped me stay grounded when I was eyeing a McLaren. She’s practical, knows the market, and just gets the big picture.
Good point! I know people jump in headfirst with luxury buys, especially with cars like these. I’ve also been working with Stephanie Janis Stiefel for a couple of years, and she’s helped me make smarter choices, especially with bigger purchases like my Aston Martin. Stephanie’s advice kept me from overextending myself, which is priceless when you’re eyeing something that’s more than just a car, it’s a financial commitment.
Thanks for the heads-up. I was actually thinking about getting an exotic car myself, maybe a Ferrari or a Bentley, but I was unsure if it was the right move right now. Could really use an advisor who knows how to guide this sort of decision, and it sounds like Stephanie Janis Stiefel. might be exactly who I need. How do I get in touch with her?
Well her name is 'STEPHANIE JANIS STIEFEL'. Just research the name. You'd find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.
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Great assessment. I just traded in my 2.7 Bronco and the v6 sound and pull is intoxicating. The ford 4 banger seems no better. Older GMs engine offers made the colorado and canyon contenders but… with only a sewing machine… i got $5 cdn you’ll pick the RAM next.
Because it has a turbo4
It's all the electronic stuff around the rearview mirror that makes the sun visors short, I like older vehicles. No cruise control is a deal killer. Thanks 🙏
It's a Chevy, that's why😂😂
Better than any Ford or Dodge that’s a guarantee
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All have issues. Quit being brand loyal.
@@CarringtonHollister especially Toyota right now...
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Andre, don't feel bad about the cruise control. It isn't your fault, but rather the manufactures fault for not packaging the features properly on their ordering system. It seems like a common problem for some manufacturers. I recently bought a gently used commercial cargo van and it was also spec'd without cruise control, but has all the other features that would be "packaged" with cruise control. Frustrating and disappointing, so I know how you feel. Glad to see the trunk you bought to replace it. Enjoy it!
I bought a ‘23 Trail Boss in December, 21,000 miles later and I still love it.
Change your oil MORE frequently..
That's *if* you plan on keeping your vehicle for a long time. You, on the other hand, are getting rid of your truck after less than 2 years of ownership. Because of that, I wouldn't worry about it. That's for the next owner to worry about...
Nice little truck. I can definitely see it not being big enough, though. Especially with a family and all that. I wouldn't get my hopes up about another GM truck or different brand having better service or less software issues, though.
Being a fellow 2.7 owner, i feel your pain on the sound of the engine. I feel like i could easily overlook it if it got better mileage, but I honestly think I'd get as good of mileage with a 5.3. I know my '20 Yukon XL gets better mileage than my '23 Silverado with the 2.7. Overall, I'd have to admit that I've got a bit of a soft spot for the engine. The engineering that went into it and the performance it has for what it is is really impressive. I will always be glad to have been a part of it. Regardless of whether I buy another.
Dang, no cruise control on that truck. Huh! Never heard that about Andres truck. Hey Andre, you should try to get cruise control on your next truck! My wife has it on her 24 Colorado Bison and it works great! Heck, my lawnmower has it too and that’s 25 years old! All jokes aside, thanks for the content big guy! Good luck on your new truck hunt. They do have power windows nowadays too!
Hopefully the software issues resonate with GM.
I know I've had a few issues. Just recently my HVAC system stopped functioning through the infotainment system despite it still working with the physical controls.
The truck only needed an update but having to go into the dealer and spend 3 hours on my day off for a software update is annoying.
I also had a major issue when I first bought it with the backup camera. There was a damaged harness underneath the passenger seat that was messing up the ground. The truck was throwing codes for the safety restraint system due to it too. Took 3 separate visits along with leaving the truck at the dealer until a GM engineer came out and diagnosed and repaired the issue. GM was only going to offer me 300 dollars in reward points for the inconvenience.
Lastly, the spring to the latching mechanism to my fuel door was defective.
Unbelievable.
Mines a 24 as well so you would think these issues wouldn't necessarily be as widespread but they most certainly are.
I think you're going to run into issues with any of the new trucks though since the new Tacomas have their own problems and Ford's have always been problematic. A coworker of mine has a 19 Ranger and the transmission crapped out on him after 40k miles.
I just can't believe that long oil change intervals on turbo engines is a good long term plan. I''m probably going to waste money on unnecesary oil changes. Friends of mine you have had ecoboosts and had trouble after 100k with turbos and other problems They followed approx a 10k oil change interval with synthetic. I know my oil looks dark after just 3k with 3.5 ecoboost. maybe I'lll do an oil analysis next time.
good review. TFL helped me a lot in this segment I just purchased a 2024 Jeep Gladiator Willis. I was thinking about the trail boss and the xlt ranger. man-vertible for the win at $46k
I bought a Canyon AT4. Which I love. One of my issues was my truck was one of the vehicles affected by the headlight flickering. But to my understanding were bad headlight modules. Unfortunately, still waiting on the parts to come in. Now, the other day I got in to leave Starbucks and my 2H stayed yellow. It wouldn't allow me to switch out of 2H. Don't know what that was. I gave it a few hours, started it again. And it was back to normal. Going to have that looked at as well. All in all, I'm happy with my truck. The 4 cylinder turbo does make me a little nervous. About longevity. But to my understanding they are pretty much the same ones they have been in the lower trim of Silverado's for about several years. With no major issues. So, hopefully that continues.
Just trade out trucks at 20,000 miles, like Andre and never have to worry about longevity.