@@karatekid7640 That doesn't mean every person can afford a new vehicle with higher costs, nor do companies have big budgets to spend on R&D for such norms continuously. Also there are also theories saying all these norms are to decrease the sale of diesel engines and promote the electric lobby...
@@vedantnarvekar4214 yes that's why these bs7 norms shouldn't come before 2029. Government should also reduce tax rates and promote hybrid vehicles as they are more enjoying friendly than electric vehicles but yes it seems they are influenced by some lobbies to exclude hybrid vehicles cause only few companies like Toyota invest significantly in them... That being said these norms are not only for personal vehicles but also for buses and trucks and other grant vehicles and as such they are very important for a better air quality and should also be extended to railways and diesel generator sets etc. We want better air and vehicular emission is but a small though significant part in it. We also need more regulation on construction dust control and industrial pollution control body like EPA which actually work for any significant changes to occur.
Bilkul sahi bola bhai service ku6 dena nahi h aur bas emission standard k naam per mehngai sala bs6 silencer tut gya tha mera replace krwane me pichli car se 3 guna lag gya samjh me nahi aaya swift krwane gya tha scorpio k paisa lg gya 😂😂😂😂😂😂 barbaad ho gye ham
Hmm true .. look at our infrastructure..in cities like Bangalore, Mumbai and Delhi.. u have to think 10 times to bring the car out .. lot of fuel is getting wasted because of the traffic.. current infrastructure can't even handle 1/4 th of the population.. I request governments to improve infrastructure before imposing any new rules ..
I’m an electrical engineer in the solar industry. Let me tell you, the biggest polluter of the air is the coal power plants and the agricultural industry. In India the majority of the power fed in the national grid is from coal. Modern diesel engines do not produce any sort of alarming pollution that the politicians want us to believe. If they are polluting first let them start from their city metro buses and diesel-electric locomotives. Our modern diesel cars are highly tuned to not produce any kind of soot or particulate matter. Next, how is petrol better than diesel? I’m burning twice as much fuel for the same distance with petrol than with diesel. My petrol car gives 10kmpl mileage. My diesel car gives 20kmpl. I’m actually using less fuel to travel the same distance. And diesel not twice as much polluting as petrol. It’s hardly 5-10% more than petrol. But our stupid govt thinks petrol is better than diesel. Also I’m losing my love of driving because the torque from petrol engines is so low I need to change gears 10x more than diesel car. Highway cruising is a pain with petrol engines. Only turbo petrol can match the performance of a modern diesel but it’s too expensive. Our government sucks👎🏻 So many stupid people with not even a single engineer in the advisor board I guess.
EVs are happening. People like it or not. Technology doesn’t go backwards. Green Energy - we can generate more and cheaper. Cars are better Electric - Cost, Noise and Tech.
Agar BS7 Europe ko dekh ke India lagu karna chahta hai to fir .. 1) Roads kiyun Europe ke tarah nhi hai? 2) Taxes on cars Europe ke tarah kiyun nhi hai? 3) Europe Ki tarah car culture kiyun exist nhi karta India mein? .. Import Duty+Road Tax+GST+CESS+VAT = 200%+ congratulations to us Indians you are paying 4 times more of a car price..👍🏻..
Car culture US me hai EU me nahi... Alot more people walk there than drive, Also public trasport is pretty good ! Not to mention cycling in EU is actually a thing... EU has highest taxes in the world , including income taxes... India is uneducated, and this is the first generation of litrate parents, we'll need at least 30-40 years to be mentally developed. Curruption happens because people's aspirations can't be fulfilled with the current situation. bhai galat way me nahi but genuinely if you want to live a quality life, India can't offer it in our lifetime.. it's better to move out if you can.
Rickshaws are the most stupid vehicles. They're unstable and their drivers think they rule the fucking world. Only a few ones a good other than that all those are egoistic douchebags@@Trilok_world
And they keep looting😮 customers demanding over and above the meter reading. Causing lung damage to millions who pay taxes. Social justice in desi way, I guess. 😂😂😂
What about the reduction of taxes on Hybrid cars that Mr. Gadkari promised ? They want to do everything which will put every kind of burden on middle class, Ridiculous policies.
Our government will kill the whole automotive industry in the name of pollution but wll never curb on major pollution sources like coal power plants. And our government will ever encourage its citizens to plant trees on massive scales?
We need blue hydrocarbon fule. It's cheap. Appointment 0 pollution, carbon neutral. Only hydrogen and carbon. It's taking carbon from water and air pollutants
@@AkashSingh-pm-of its good but infrastructure for hydrogen is not available in india and for engines to rely on hydrogen we need may need 10 years to make a proper working hydrogen based stations
We are not yet ready for euro 7. We don't need it for atleast 5 more years. This will do more harm to the economy than good. Cars have already gotten too expensive. A friggin alto costs 6 lacs on road.
@@prithop9338: Alto. With the a/c on!😂. Think practically. People are not gonna walk or opt for shitty EVs just for the sake of good air quality. Plus ICE cars are not the only things which are entirely responsible for the pollution..
@@raceking83 not entirely but majorly they pollute also big players like adani have set target to install 75,000 working charging stations in india till 2030 so everyone will be opting electric
@@raceking83 jab asthma hoga to sab lenge good air quality ke liye kabhi north india ake dekho pta lagega kitna bura haal h hawa ka delhi to purani baat hogi punjab, haryana west up, rajasthan ke kafi jaghe AQI 190 se upar rehta h
No jobs + bad employment policy! Rising prices of everything wheather it is car ,raw material etc!!! And last but not the least 10 year diesel and 15 year petrol rule in a country where people still not have enough money for basic essentials! Seriously pathetic
Major point about unfair taxation of hybrid vehicles. They are our biggest hope and potential for quick change. It's frankly idiotic and reeks of incompetence/malice.
I think it’s more about industry lobbying from the EV makers like Tata, BYD, Mahindra and so on, who want to tax out the competition from hybrids so that they have a clear market advantage for their EVs.
Bs7 Matlab mehangi cars Petrol /diesel to mehanga hai he Toll tax ka kya he kehna Roads to banegi pr ban k tikenge nahi In the end common man suffers a lot
Nitin Gadkari being the most impractical transport minister ever, just comparing the technological level of European countries and completely ignoring the purchasing power of Indians. ( Not to be taken in wrong sense, Indians purchasing power is also increasing but still in india car is big investment for middle class people and they can't afford to change cars in such short durations ).Due to Nitin Gadkari, I feel owning a car in India is not less than a headache for middle class people. He needs to be praised for the infrastructure development but also needs to be criticized for his illogical and over fast pace decisions. Also the Govt of India is also at blame for approving the senseless decisions of different organisations, the most common example would be ban of Bs-4 diesel cars during pollution period in Delhi. Just imagine a person buying a Bs-4 diesel car in March or Feb of 2020 and suddenly his/her car becomes an invalid vehicle for Delhi NCR. Also the rule of pre determine of car age on basis of fuel type(10 years for diesel and 15 years of petrol)is an extremely objectionable rule.. I have personally seen some cars in Delhi having validity till 2027/2028 in RC but then a random rule just comes and reduces you vehicle age. In my opinion if a person has payed for a vehicle for 15 years definitely not knowing the new rules. Government is no one to reduce his vehicle life even after paying for 15 years. In indian house holds cars is not just a means of transport but also an emotion for the whole family..so government should rethink over it's baseless decision in favour of public interest.
Pagla gye hain hamare neta sb, just copy paste. US EU me 20+ y cars chalti hai, they focus on fight against other reasons of pollutants rather banning and scrapping cars. Idiots !!!
Vo gadha Petrol KO bam karrke EV ko chalna chata Hai , par madarchod KO ye Kon kahega ke electricity Abhi ke liye ham diesel , coal ka use Karte Hai Jo sabse jyada emission Karta Hai 🤡 , not to mention we are in shortage of electricity recently in Delhi airport systems were temporary down .. Producing electricity is 55% of total CO2 emissions from the electric power sector alone ..
ek no of evil minister h wo,usko bas apna marketting and image bachana ata h,wo mudi se bhi bada haiwan h,wo asli asur h wo logon ko khali ankho me nahi dikhta,abe kaun manga tha be tujhe itne itne road ,saale hamare tax paise se apna shauk pura kar raha h
Have you seen any Japanese car makers complaining? No because there is no such problems for hybrids. 1) You can drive on electric while cat conv. warms up. 2) If you are dragging extra weight on mountain at 7 deg. Batteries can provide extra boost.
Government hame pollution ke naam pe bewakoof bana rahi hai. Ek toh yeh log gaadi lete samay 15 yrs ka road tak bhar ke lete hai aur phir 10 saal ka petrol diesel ban laga dete hai jiska koi bhi sense nahi banta aur upar se road tax aur tolls alag se lete hai aur roads ki halat ekdam maha ghatiya jiska government ko koi lena dena nahi sirf woh log paise khana chahte hai aur janta ko pareshaan karte hai pollution ke naam par. Upar se EV infrastructure ka koi thikana nahi hai aur hybrid cars ka option kaafi limited hai aur hydrogen cars waise hi mehenge hai. Seriously hadd hai yaar sarkar ki. Pata nahi kab sudhrenge.
They are LITRELLY forcing to make the prices of car to go up This will make poor people get off the road so that rich people can enjoy their cars traffic free Nice
Mr Gadakri hates diesel cars at core, it reflects in his statements. In our country where EV Infra is non existent, Hybrids have gazillion taxes, this is stupidity. And with 15 years of ban govt is only promoting to scrap and gives no motivation to maintain your vehicle also impacting resale value.
Perhaps Sri Gadkari ji should focus on the old commercial vehicles and city buses. The level of discomfort we get riding 2 wheelers next to them is unimaginable. And the focus on city decongestion is not there at all... vehicles are creeping in cities in 1st and 2nd gear, which leads to pollution.
I remember Akshay Kumar's tweet in 2013, saying that it was time to clean your cycles and hit the roads(because of rise in petrol and diesel price). I say that it's time to get a fucking cycle rickshaw for short distances, like upto 2 kms.
@@riddhimukherjee2722 I agree. There should be a limit (with optional extension procedure), but 15 years is simply too low. A law born straight out of car manufacturer lobbying 😂
@@N0Xa880iULnah they should check car emissions every 5 years and as long as it passes, the cars should be allowed to use wether it's 50 years old or 5
Me ek technician hu aur mujhe Bs6 engines bilkul pasand nahi ab vo reliability nahi raha jo Bs 3 aur Bs 4 me milti thi plus engines ko bahut jyada complicated kar diya plus service cost bhi badh gya specially Diesel engines
This is what happens when non technical people set rules for the technology. The car companies now should launch a bull cart or a horse cart to meet these pollution norms.
The good investment is to Buy Diesel car now n drive till next 10 years n after BS7 if next yr then automatically old diesel car prices stop depreciation rapidly n u can sell it after use of 5-6 yrs in good amount...it all about Demand & Supply concept.
They are ferrying 30-40 passengers at least, in one-way, leading to lesser emission, than it would be if everyone were travelling in their own car. Public transport of any kind is always a net positive in terms of easing traffic congestion and reducing pollution
And that is why we had nehruvian rate of growth since independence and only now it has changed!! Socialist ideology has only made this nation poor and made the people lethargic!
Please do make a video regarding emission norms and regulations for commercial vehicles for EU, major developed countries and most importantly for India. Because people who understand about automotive industry are really concerned regarding regulations of commercial and heavy vehicles.
In 1973, when asked about how Honda was the only car maker in USA to fully comply with the EPA emission standards while all other carmakers were grumbling, Soichiro Honda replied, "when EPA annouced the new emissions guidelines, Honda hired 100 engineers while GM hired 100 lawyers".
gadkari is way too arrogant. he does not care about the common man. Itni mehnat karke life mein pehli gaadi li hai. I have an emotional connection with my car; yes, it's a diesel BS6. Already bahut sara unfair amount of tax pay Kiya hai, agar future mein restrictions daale gaye mujhe meri gaadi drive karne pe then I will definitely leave this country and never look back.
Also with every new generation of pollution norm, the power and fun factor of an engine reduces compared to previous gen. Its no joke that some decade old engines are powerful and fun.
We dont want Govt buses to be bs6 complaint, but the least they can do is maintain them and have a valid Emission certificate. if the govt needs to reduce pollution, they can start from the Govt vehicles which are far beyond their capabilities
Also efficient public transport. That means better road and rail infrastructure. I have been to Delhi more than twice. The metro system is so smooth, efficient, convenient and comfortable too. Plus it saves a lot of time, money and effort.
One thing that can be done is set 2030 as deadline for BS7, giving automobile industry enough time , thus they wont be able to complain and we'll have a chance to save our diesels, atleast a few of them
Bs6 is enough we don't need bs 7. Or give us free cars. What rubbish. Stop adani power from polluting, it's easier to attach filters to coal plant than 1 crore cars.
Honestly speaking.... 15 year ban rule is just to collect tax and of no other benefit...it just forces an owner to upgrade for no reason... Policy makers are just POLITICIANS who literally just want to fill their pockets and behave like so called environmentalists... BS7 is literally like "aap car ko emission less hi bna do" 💀 wtf is this a joke? If this is gonna be implemented in India the middle class is gonna suffer a hell lot...(Which it is already suffering by paying high taxes..15 year rule and many more) Time to leave India honestly...cuz no one's gonna raise voice against these issues ....
And the fact that through EVs we are just outsourcing our pollution to the countries where children work in mines in the most desolate conditions to make our batteries.
@@namankalra4807You are talking as if we're living in a first world country. Bro India IS the country where children work in mines for extremely low wages.
A airplane makes almost 100x more emissions than some 10000 normal cars but But for government just doesn’t care also I did not include all the shipping containers ships
Bcz all the cost which will go into convert these airplanes is not worth the outcome enough at all. Anyway, I hate bs6 already, bs7 will be a great fuk off to car community and we should not let that happen
I dont particularly agree with airlines bit but absolutely with the shipping part. But not everything is in their control when it comes to shipping. Private transport on the other hand is easily controllable by comparison.
Govt. wants to reduce carbon emissions by implementing strict laws on vehicles. While govt. give permission to private companies to cut dense forests and make buildings in eco sensitive zones. To make a new eco friendly fuel we need huge research budget which we dont have. Govt. also haven't increased research budget for several years.
The government doesn't give a shot about the middle class the ministers or the elected representatives doesn't have to buy any vehicles nor they have to pay for fuel
They messed up in a way, people were buying cng cars also, they increased the prices of that also. I don't like cng cars but this still is a better option than EV.
Guys this is last time we're ever going to see Diesels, of course they pollute more but they have higher thermal efficiency, they produce less heat, they are more reliable and the best driveability with good torque and that's why governments around the world hate them as people keep driving them. As long as Diesels exist EV sales will never increase. TDCI, TDI, DCI are gone, remaining will pass in the next BS7.
I'm not against any Govt. Just giving my opinion... Instead of controlling pollution norms we should go for Hybrid cars tax rebate which consumes less fuel which leads to low pollution. Charger anxiety bhi khatam
1st nitrogen oxide ki limit diesel ke liye 80 hi thik hai there is no need to reduce it to 60 2nd Real world driving me Rare and extreme situations ke liye 2x emissions tak relief deni chahiye 3rd 10 year and 2 lakh kms ke liye Emissions maintain karna is good they should go for it 4th cold start par emissions badhna nahi chahiye euro 7 is perfect here 5th OBM is also needed there is no reason to oppose this 6th tyres and bracks se hone wale emissions bhi control karne ki need thi so there is no reason to oppose this 7th electric cars ko battery long lasting deni chahiye whats wrong in that ?
The situation is that people are dying everyday due to pollution and climate change. There is a lack of knowledge among people who are infact getting the worst of it. Do you really think these corporate top management care about you. They are protesting because their profits are going down. Emotions, values, powerful engines, speed, bkl Zinda nhi raho gye toh gaaand me daloge yeh sab..
@@nitin9013 people think suddenly every road in country is flooding because of poor drainage, no one is asking why 200mm rain happened in delhi in one single day. Thats literally climate change right there but people prefer tweeting about flood from ac room while and driving to work in their 10kmpl suv
The situation is that people are dying everyday due to pollution and climate change. There is a lack of knowledge among people who are infact getting the worst of it. Do you really think these corporate top management care about you. They are protesting because their profits are going down. Emotions, values, powerful engines, speed, bkl Zinda nhi raho gye toh buttocks me daloge yeh sab.. *My earlier comment
The situation is that people are dying everyday due to pollution and climate change. There is a lack of knowledge among people who are infact getting the worst of it. Do you really think these corporate top management care about you. They are protesting because their profits are going down. Emotions, values, powerful engines, speed, bkl Zinda nhi raho gye toh g me daalo gye yeh sab
Indian government is taking ideas for vehicle norms as per European countries but have no norms for industries Please like to save diesel engine cars😢😢😢😢
EVs are happening. People like it or not. Technology doesn’t go backwards. Green Energy - we can generate more and cheaper. Cars are better Electric - Cost, Noise and Tech.
I live in California which is one of the strongest rules on emissions. Every 2 years smog check. I have 1991 BMW, just passed the smog test, results came out way better than many newer models cars.
If our govt is Environment lover then why cant Govt remove old buses and old trucks which are running since decades. Why cant they fine industries and factories which are polluting rivers and lakes. We really need a new Transport minister who can really understand the consumer.
@@abhinavmj1613 People are not willing to pay for it, if this will be done then the Price of Public transport tickets will drastically increase and same People who are advising this will start to cry !
@@gouravxh2631 bruh what kind of logic is this? Old buses which are used in service can be replaced by petrol and ev buses. Many state govt have replaced old buses with ev bus for inter city connectivity and petrol buses for longer routes but this number is not significant. I want to add one more thing , daily I see dozens of vehicles which spread so much smoke , has the owner been fined for using such type of vehicle? There should be a rule for vehicles like this.
Potentially puting Indian car makers into disadvantage who are recently puting their profit into RnD....where's other companies are way ahead in research to produce bs7 cars with better quality.......what abt govt buses...? They ar making life harder for 2nd tier cities where people buy 2nd hand cars and transport vehicles...for income.
8:00 I am totally satisfied with his statement It is not applicable on all cars as all the cars are not made for hilly mountain areas for example if you test an Alto k10 in low temperatures at high altitudes in mountains so doesn't make sense at all because a car like Alto doesn't even goes to the mountains in his whole lifespan
It's also risky because at slopes the cars need power to maintain its position otherwise they would need to use more and more handbrakes. Desi sarkar se tho kya hee expect kare, unme se kaafi logon ko ye hee ni pataa hota how cars work but Europe ki sarkar se ye expected nahi thaa.
Nitin is an idiot, building roads without taking the environment and nature into consideration. Too much toll tax, basically he is charging for every new road made. 50 percent tax on vehicles gst +cess. too much tax on hybrids that could reduce pollution.
Vo gadha Petrol KO bam karke EV ko chalna chata Hai , par mada #rcho* KO ye Kon kahega ke electricity Abhi ke liye him diesel , coal ka use Karte Hai Jo sabse jyada emission Karta Hai 🤡 , not to mention we are in shortage of electricity recently in Delhi airport systems were temporarily down .. Producing electricity is 55% of total CO2 emissions from the electric power sector alone ..
Timestamps - 00:00 to 00:30 - Meeting with Nitin Gadkari to manufacture BS7 vehicles 00:35 to 01:27 - Why European carmakers opposing BS7 vehicles? 01:28 to 01:41 - Why Italy created a fellow group of countries? 02:01 to 02:57 - Why Euro norms were created? !age drop in emissions during the journey from Euro 1 to Euro 7 norms 02:57 to 03:23 - Euro 1 03:24 to 03:43 - Euro 2 03:44 to 03:53 - Euro 3 03:54 to 04:04 - Euro 4 04:05 to 04:29 - Euro 5 04:30 to 05:09 - Petrol vs Diesel emissions, GDI and TSI engines 05:10 to 07:02 - Euro 6 07:03 to 09:45 - Euro 7 09:46 to 10:19 - OBM mandate 10:20 to 10:41 - Non tailpipe PM emissions 10:42 to 11:12 - EV norms in Euro 7 11:13 to 11:59 - Higher development cost 12:00 to 14:33 - Conclusion
Ye sb ek chaal hai govt ki . Itne jayada strict norms p car average degi nahi then petrol khub bikegi or taxes aayenge. Environment k name pr kamai krne ka naya formula hai.
I like gadkari as person and road minister not like as automotive expert he's just comparing European countries to India and only unrealistic ideas and opportunities Gadkari is only villian of diesel in India even government force us to sell our car in only 10 to 15 years why even EU and USA can't 😅
@@Amits710no they don't raise real issues, they create ruckus only. And no evidence of mic censor by modi. Today Raga lectured on Hindu religion, does he have guts to say illogical things for another religion ? Ans is no ! He is Hinduphobic and has a typical British mindset towards India.🧐
@@Amits710 muft ka 8500 dene ka prmoise karne se vote mil jata hai toh actual issues ki baat karne ki kya need hai in reality, all INDIA voters ask their 8500 share from their MP and loot his house if he doesn't pay
EVs are happening. People like it or not. Technology doesn’t go backwards. Green Energy - we can generate more and cheaper. Cars are better Electric - Cost, Noise and Tech.
@@nou7401 The environmental and human damage caused by electric cars (rare earth mineral mining, slave labour used in the Congo for mining cobalt, disposal of lithium batteries etc.) is leagues above the environmental damage caused by ICE vehicles. Furthermore, we still produce the majority of our electricity from thermal power plants. You may feel good while driving EVs, but the dirty work is being done by someone else/somewhere else.
@@kc4276 takes too much cost space and weight 1. Already GV/hyry boot loses 100L (350L vs 250L) between hybrid and ice. PHEV will be even smaller boot space, so the idea of using ICE on long trips is moot because boot cannot accommodate luggage for the trip in the first place. Same issue with FCEVs also, long range but no boot space to make use of the range on trips 2. That’s just the battery, you still need OBC, DCDC, BMS, motor, all of this junk is in the front in ev’s where engine was. You can’t put it in front anymore. Anywhere else and service will be a nightmare. Just look up Camry/lexus battery access, while rear seat has to be ripped open. 3. All this drastically increases weight, Nexon EV is 70kg more than ICE after removing engine and ancillaries. If you keep it, it will exceed harrier weight (1700kg) just for Nexon. Handling and suspension goes for a toss 4. Since PHEVs have smaller battery, and mostly no liquid cooling, the battery degradation will be worse than EV. A 250km range Nexon EV is cycled once per week in my 40km per day usage. A PHEV with 40km range will be fully exhausted everyday. I’ll be putting cycles 7x faster on a PHEV which means less longevity. 40x1500 cycles = 60000km. 250x1500 cycles = 375K km 5. PHEVs don’t have DCFC support, so most of the public charging infra is useless for PHEVs. And PHEVs sales do not improve infra for ev’s because ev’s benefit from fast charging - which PHEVs don’t have - and PHEVs can only slow charge - which is not viable for ev’s. You see the problem here? 6. Since PHEVs can’t fast charge, on long trips, you’ll have worse mileage than normal hybrid or even ICE. You can charge if you are staying at a hotel overnight but that’s about it. Even in city, there have been times when I’ve charged at fast charger just because I was already at a mall with charger and I can charge while shopping. With PHEV you can’t. You can slow chargers - but that takes 7-8h which you won’t be spending at any mall or parking other than at homes These are just the technical challenges, with the kind of discipline Indians have, they won’t even bother to charge the cars and run on ICE mode which is worse for emissions - same engine hauling 1700kg car vs 1300kg means less mileage and more emissions than ICE model of same car And it’s not we who lack discipline, even the westerners don’t bother to charge either - so imagining Indians doing it is impossible. www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-54170207.amp www.transportenvironment.org/discover/plug-hybrids-new-emissions-scandal-tests-show-higher-pollution-claimed/ It’s just not viable for the size, price and the weight of cars sold here. In west, you can downsize the engine from a I6/V8 to I4 (what Volvo did) to save space and weight But the same isn’t possible on Indian cars which are already I3/I4
@@kc4276 FYI the report is from USA and tesla record in USA has proven in last ten years that cars driven for 200K miles (3.2lakh km) have just 10% range drop The report already counts 10% range drop over 2.4lakh km of the vehicle life 5% mileage drop is also counted for ice cars. You think companies are fools to give 8y warranty if they knew beforehand that battery will be changed in 5-6y itself?
This is ridiculous. The current emissions norms are good for at least another 10 years. The regulatory bodies have found out this (imposing emissions norms on cars) is an easy target and they are milking it and going to town. First of all, the norms for EU 7 are far too strict and impractical. Second, the difference it will make for the environment will be small compared to the efforts needed to achieve it. Three, they are just punishing cars (which is a small contributor overall) for air pollution whereas mining, petroleum and other industries are nowhere near such regulations.
I would disagree with your perspective on the second and third point. The way I am seeing it atleast someone is doing a significant enough change at a country scale. What is the rest of the government doing...? What policies are being made for the other industries? I'm from Delhi. Born in Kerala. I am passionate about cars and bikeS always have been. But everyone has forgotten that not even a month back people were falling unconscious on the roads, people died because they can't afford to go from one air conditioned room to another. Bas baato baato me gharmi bht hogyi h, cyclones bht ho rhe h , flood bht aarhe h bolte jao. Kyu ho rha h? Yeh taboo question h aajkal.
@@nitin9013 @nitin9013 For the 2nd point, look at the margin of reduction of each of the pollutants like its going down from 80 to 60 for PM for diesel engines. And what OEMs need to do achieve that will raise the cost quite significantly because OEMs are already doing everything they can to get it to 80. And that point about cold starts, thats such a small portion of a drive and yet they want to punish that? You might say these gains may be small but on a nation wide or on a global scale its considerable, but similarly on a national or a global scale, there are far bigger contributors to air pollution like mining, space industry etc who need to be regulated first. And regarding the condition in Delhi, I feel for you guys but vehicles are not the culprits for that... its the stubble burning. If they are really serious about emission norms and air pollution, why is there no clamp down on stubble burning? And to add to my 2nd point, why dont these norms, even the current BS 6.2 norms apply to buses and trucks?! What they emit oxygen is it? Why are only passenger vehicles regulated? When in reality, buses and trucks run longer distances and spend more time on the road running and more importantly have emissions far worse than the current cars and bikes. I'll tell you why, because passenger vehicles are the easy target. And fourth point, these regulatory bodies be it EU or BS, they need to come up and provide the alternate solution and not just say "you cant run these engines". They should do the R&D, develop the technology and give it OEMs and say "here you go, this is how you reduce emissions. Now implement this in your vehicles" Anyone can ban anything. Doesnt mean its right/correct. What they are doing now is similar to if a teacher continuously marked an answer as the wrong answer to a question but refused to teach what the correct answer was.
Don't worry on buying a diesel now ...even after a decade there will be a large portion of individuals looking for diesel ... Happily owning a diesel x7
@@FadilRahman. I don't think so. At current rate it won't take much time for diesel vehicle regulations in delhi to go pan india. After that no matter how much someone loves diesel , nobody is gonna buy a a second hand vehicle which he cannot even drive on road . May be some rich car collector but that's it.
@@memorizinguniverse4247 Only 7.5% of the population in our country own a car . Gradually when rest of em' start owning one especially from the second hand market most will always go for a diesel no matter what. And as far as the NCR rule whether would be applied across India or not... there's still a lot of time left for it
@@FadilRahman. Delhi NCR is simply overpopulated with more than 3.40 Cr people with more cars on road and add to that stubble burning is the cherry on a cake. I am not saying that pollution is solely from cars but from surrounding industries and higher population. So it is highly unlikely for Delhi emission norms to go pan India, most of the Indian metros are not even half the Delhi Population.
Bro I will leave delhi and continue driving my 15+ years old vehicles and will give a middle finger to govt pollution curbing policies. Because most of this pollution bull shit is limited to Delhi NCR only.
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Superb video 👏. Thanks for putting up such information and Correct content. I am from the Automotive sector (R&D) so I can relate that everything shared in this video is very precise. You are one of the Gem youtubers💐. Keep it up & thanks. 'Cold start kit' is already at the stage of implementation here in my OEM.
I hate gadkari so much. He is killing automotive industry and killing our favorite cars. Simply copying euro norms and pasting on a country like India which is 100-150 years behind the European countries. Rubbish polices.
In Hyderabad and Andra Pradesh sunder water solutions made water fuel car...he can make any existing car in 5 lakhs water fuel vehicle..he is running his car for 8years..why companies don't looking on water fuel engine..
Because govt "cares about the environment" in a way that forces responsibility on everyone else. When they do something that doesnt favour the environment, unless it becomes a big enough issue, they'll go ahead with it. Still so slow on solving public transport, still having so many old outdated buses that are running beyond last leg. But of course private transport = bad and we must penalise manufacturers for "ruining the environment". Edit - lets not forget how euro norms just made the diesel problems worse. These legislators pretending they know what they're talking about is just problematic. Upon that just saying "you will comply from this date fully" also doesnt totally make sense. Europe pretends to care about the environment, and India isn't even bothered to do anything but copy what western countries write on paper.
BS10 = Cars cannot be sold if they don't somehow produce oxygen and automatically grow a ******* tree 👍
good one
BS11 - Bullock cart. 0 emissions if u dont mind the bull shit .
😂😂😂
BS12 Bull can't even shit@@nikeshgupta8362
BS15 go to space without emission 😢
We earn nowhere near the Europeans , our nation has no facility like them but somehow we must follow norms that they make.. Ridiculous
Emission norms are for health safety purposes and Our bodies are as sensitive or more than people living in Europe.
Except that emissions come from industries and factories and farming more than from cars @@karatekid7640
@@karatekid7640 That doesn't mean every person can afford a new vehicle with higher costs, nor do companies have big budgets to spend on R&D for such norms continuously. Also there are also theories saying all these norms are to decrease the sale of diesel engines and promote the electric lobby...
@@karatekid7640 run car on water. Zero emissions.
@@vedantnarvekar4214 yes that's why these bs7 norms shouldn't come before 2029. Government should also reduce tax rates and promote hybrid vehicles as they are more enjoying friendly than electric vehicles but yes it seems they are influenced by some lobbies to exclude hybrid vehicles cause only few companies like Toyota invest significantly in them...
That being said these norms are not only for personal vehicles but also for buses and trucks and other grant vehicles and as such they are very important for a better air quality and should also be extended to railways and diesel generator sets etc.
We want better air and vehicular emission is but a small though significant part in it. We also need more regulation on construction dust control and industrial pollution control body like EPA which actually work for any significant changes to occur.
Ek toh India mein tax jyada, upar se Road kharab aur toh aur rules European Wale, waah Bhai waah.
1st world tax and 3rd world infrastructure
Bilkul sahi bola bhai service ku6 dena nahi h aur bas emission standard k naam per mehngai sala bs6 silencer tut gya tha mera replace krwane me pichli car se 3 guna lag gya samjh me nahi aaya swift krwane gya tha scorpio k paisa lg gya 😂😂😂😂😂😂 barbaad ho gye ham
Aur citizens ki income Africa wali
Rules Europe wale 😂😂
Aur police wala jagha jagah pa mobile la ka kada hai farzi chaln lo chor system
Hmm true .. look at our infrastructure..in cities like Bangalore, Mumbai and Delhi.. u have to think 10 times to bring the car out .. lot of fuel is getting wasted because of the traffic.. current infrastructure can't even handle 1/4 th of the population.. I request governments to improve infrastructure before imposing any new rules ..
I’m an electrical engineer in the solar industry.
Let me tell you, the biggest polluter of the air is the coal power plants and the agricultural industry. In India the majority of the power fed in the national grid is from coal.
Modern diesel engines do not produce any sort of alarming pollution that the politicians want us to believe. If they are polluting first let them start from their city metro buses and diesel-electric locomotives. Our modern diesel cars are highly tuned to not produce any kind of soot or particulate matter.
Next, how is petrol better than diesel? I’m burning twice as much fuel for the same distance with petrol than with diesel. My petrol car gives 10kmpl mileage. My diesel car gives 20kmpl. I’m actually using less fuel to travel the same distance.
And diesel not twice as much polluting as petrol. It’s hardly 5-10% more than petrol. But our stupid govt thinks petrol is better than diesel.
Also I’m losing my love of driving because the torque from petrol engines is so low I need to change gears 10x more than diesel car. Highway cruising is a pain with petrol engines. Only turbo petrol can match the performance of a modern diesel but it’s too expensive.
Our government sucks👎🏻 So many stupid people with not even a single engineer in the advisor board I guess.
Bro how you said petrol 10kmpl and diesel 20kmpl ?
Bhai sahab
Ye kuch jyada nhi ho gaya 😅
@@Weirdo_on_yt724are trust him he is a electrical engineer jisme engines ke bare mai bataya jata ha
correct at least keep technical people while making norms but all we get is old geezers are sitting in AC halls talking about pollution norms
@@Weirdo_on_yt724 bhai sahi to bola i20 petrol mai 10-13 ki avg deti hae or vahi diesel mai 20 -23 deti hae
@@Hyped007 😆😆😆
Food safety norms bekar, medicine safety norms bekar, Road safety norms bekar, public infrastructure safety norms bekar recent example Delhi International airport T1, Rajkot airport, Jabalpur airport , industry emission norms bekar but somehow govt wants strict norms in Commercial Automobiles emission
EVs are happening. People like it or not. Technology doesn’t go backwards.
Green Energy - we can generate more and cheaper.
Cars are better Electric - Cost, Noise and Tech.
@@nou7401Combustion are also evolving
@@strixhead5.038 😂😂😂
@@YakrifZee What's so funny? Can you explain?
In nepal we still have 10 or 15 year old toyotas, nissan running.. Including government vehicles....So you can bring your bs4 fortuner here😂😂..
Mostly bs3 and bs4 vehicle are seen in nepal😂
Here the government is looting people and blind followers still supporting them
I'll take Nepali citizenship over restrictions on ability to use things I own 😢😂
Bro in Nepal, cost of vehicle will be x3(300%) because of tax system in Nepal.
Bro in nepal even swift cost 32 lakh npr or 18 lakh inr
Agar BS7 Europe ko dekh ke India lagu karna chahta hai to fir
..
1) Roads kiyun Europe ke tarah nhi hai?
2) Taxes on cars Europe ke tarah kiyun nhi hai?
3) Europe Ki tarah car culture kiyun exist nhi karta India mein?
..
Import Duty+Road Tax+GST+CESS+VAT = 200%+ congratulations to us Indians you are paying 4 times more of a car price..👍🏻..
Bhai pahle pata karlo Europe me konse konse tax lagte hai. Tumhe india ka pata hoga Europe ka nahi.
Car culture US me hai EU me nahi... Alot more people walk there than drive, Also public trasport is pretty good ! Not to mention cycling in EU is actually a thing... EU has highest taxes in the world , including income taxes... India is uneducated, and this is the first generation of litrate parents, we'll need at least 30-40 years to be mentally developed. Curruption happens because people's aspirations can't be fulfilled with the current situation. bhai galat way me nahi but genuinely if you want to live a quality life, India can't offer it in our lifetime.. it's better to move out if you can.
@@Mann_1307 bhai income pe 40% tax hai. 16 saal se mera bhai Helsinki Finland mey hai.
Europe jaise roads nhi chahie... itne gaddomein kon gadi chalaega
@LimitelessTraveller India me bhi me 39% bhar rha hu. And uske alawa 10 alag chutiyape wale taxes.
Meanwhile Indian Rickshaw using kerosene with petrol😂😂😂..Auto norm 1😂😂😂😂😂
E- rickshaw bhi aa gaye hai bro, tumne bhi road par khub chalte bhi dekhe honge. 4-5 sal or ruk jao vo bhi bache kuche band ho jayenge.
Rickshaws are the most stupid vehicles. They're unstable and their drivers think they rule the fucking world. Only a few ones a good other than that all those are egoistic douchebags@@Trilok_world
And they keep looting😮 customers demanding over and above the meter reading. Causing lung damage to millions who pay taxes. Social justice in desi way, I guess. 😂😂😂
Also
The Buses exhaust air is horrible 🤢
I get vomiting 🤮 on inhaling it
At bus stands
These all buses should be electric or hydrogen one...
😂😂😂
The cranes that tow 10-15 year old cars for scrapping in Delhi are themselves more than 20 years old
What about the reduction of taxes on Hybrid cars that Mr. Gadkari promised ?
They want to do everything which will put every kind of burden on middle class, Ridiculous policies.
Our government will kill the whole automotive industry in the name of pollution but wll never curb on major pollution sources like coal power plants.
And our government will ever encourage its citizens to plant trees on massive scales?
They will also make us ride bullock carts at some point 💀
Government is cutting forest in the name of development
True.
India is among top leaders worldwide to use renewable sources
@@mayankmishra2980 perhaps in your dreams
BS8 = engine should produce fresh oxygen and if 0.00001 mg of pollution is produced . The car will shutdown anywhere
😅
😂😂
We need blue hydrocarbon fule.
It's cheap. Appointment 0 pollution, carbon neutral.
Only hydrogen and carbon.
It's taking carbon from water and air pollutants
No pm2, pm4 pollution,Nitrogen, no other bakwas.
Only hydrogen and carbon.
@@AkashSingh-pm-of its good but infrastructure for hydrogen is not available in india and for engines to rely on hydrogen we need may need 10 years to make a proper working hydrogen based stations
We are not yet ready for euro 7. We don't need it for atleast 5 more years. This will do more harm to the economy than good. Cars have already gotten too expensive. A friggin alto costs 6 lacs on road.
you need alto aur good aur quality?
@@prithop9338: Alto. With the a/c on!😂. Think practically. People are not gonna walk or opt for shitty EVs just for the sake of good air quality. Plus ICE cars are not the only things which are entirely responsible for the pollution..
@@raceking83 not entirely but majorly they pollute
also big players like adani have set target to install 75,000 working charging stations in india till 2030
so everyone will be opting electric
@@raceking83 jab asthma hoga to sab lenge good air quality ke liye
kabhi north india ake dekho pta lagega kitna bura haal h hawa ka
delhi to purani baat hogi
punjab, haryana west up, rajasthan ke kafi jaghe AQI 190 se upar rehta h
@@prithop9338lol reports ke according evs bante time 1800x pollute krti hai ice se
No jobs + bad employment policy! Rising prices of everything wheather it is car ,raw material etc!!! And last but not the least 10 year diesel and 15 year petrol rule in a country where people still not have enough money for basic essentials! Seriously pathetic
India ki zindagi sirf dusre countries ko copy karne me ja rhi hai being an Indian yeh kehne mein bahut dukh hota hai but still
Major point about unfair taxation of hybrid vehicles. They are our biggest hope and potential for quick change.
It's frankly idiotic and reeks of incompetence/malice.
I think it’s more about industry lobbying from the EV makers like Tata, BYD, Mahindra and so on, who want to tax out the competition from hybrids so that they have a clear market advantage for their EVs.
Tata, Mahindra are lobbying hard against Hybrids
@@chandrait2004 That's a shame
@@chandrait2004 not just in india. Internationally every major car company has lobbied againt hybrid with exception of toyota
@@river.mostly all japan automobile companies prefer hybrid cars tbh
Bs7 Matlab mehangi cars
Petrol /diesel to mehanga hai he
Toll tax ka kya he kehna
Roads to banegi pr ban k tikenge nahi
In the end common man suffers a lot
Jaa na bimaru it cell
Tu ia man la ki tu garib hai😂😂😂😂😂
Bhai pura loot lenge hum citizens ko. Gaadi kharidna guna hogya hai abh
@sneedsfeed757 bhai usne IT cell se bilkul opposite bola hai
toll tax is cheap.
Nitin Gadkari being the most impractical transport minister ever, just comparing the technological level of European countries and completely ignoring the purchasing power of Indians. ( Not to be taken in wrong sense, Indians purchasing power is also increasing but still in india car is big investment for middle class people and they can't afford to change cars in such short durations ).Due to Nitin Gadkari, I feel owning a car in India is not less than a headache for middle class people. He needs to be praised for the infrastructure development but also needs to be criticized for his illogical and over fast pace decisions.
Also the Govt of India is also at blame for approving the senseless decisions of different organisations, the most common example would be ban of Bs-4 diesel cars during pollution period in Delhi.
Just imagine a person buying a Bs-4 diesel car in March or Feb of 2020 and suddenly his/her car becomes an invalid vehicle for Delhi NCR. Also the rule of pre determine of car age on basis of fuel type(10 years for diesel and 15 years of petrol)is an extremely objectionable rule.. I have personally seen some cars in Delhi having validity till 2027/2028 in RC but then a random rule just comes and reduces you vehicle age. In my opinion if a person has payed for a vehicle for 15 years definitely not knowing the new rules. Government is no one to reduce his vehicle life even after paying for 15 years. In indian house holds cars is not just a means of transport but also an emotion for the whole family..so government should rethink over it's baseless decision in favour of public interest.
Agreed 👍
They killed fiat and our beloved mjd
Pagla gye hain hamare neta sb, just copy paste. US EU me 20+ y cars chalti hai, they focus on fight against other reasons of pollutants rather banning and scrapping cars.
Idiots !!!
Vo gadha Petrol KO bam karrke EV ko chalna chata Hai , par madarchod KO ye Kon kahega ke electricity Abhi ke liye ham diesel , coal ka use Karte Hai Jo sabse jyada emission Karta Hai 🤡
, not to mention we are in shortage of electricity recently in Delhi airport systems were temporary down ..
Producing electricity is 55% of total CO2 emissions from the electric power sector alone ..
ek no of evil minister h wo,usko bas apna marketting and image bachana ata h,wo mudi se bhi bada haiwan h,wo asli asur h wo logon ko khali ankho me nahi dikhta,abe kaun manga tha be tujhe itne itne road ,saale hamare tax paise se apna shauk pura kar raha h
Also: Most of these restrictions only affect consumer vehicles whereas most Diesel Buses and trucks are still old and leave out tons of Black Smoke. 😑
1:25 why there is beep? Am I missing something 😕
Non veg joke honga
Air pollution in India is also due to rampant construction works in the city areas without following proper norms.
Construction, agriculture (crop burning), manufacturing, commercial vehicles.... And private vehicles right at the end of that long list.
Delay BS7 for 7 years...
Implement strictly emissions laws on all Industry emissions.
Agree
Abhi toh govt. Ke purani ambassador car jyaada emissions karte hai. Aur woh bhi govt. discontinue nahin karte hai. Odisha govt. Main bahut saare aisay gaadiyaan abhi bhi chalta hai.
Bhai government agar shady things nahi karegi tho unfair tareeke se kaise kamaegi
restriction on cars is only for show as these have minimum impact on environment as compared to other factors
@@VAIBHAVMALHOTRA19
Sahi baat, yeh jitne drugs ka business h, woh bhi political benefits k liye hi chal rha hai.
Have you seen any Japanese car makers complaining? No because there is no such problems for hybrids.
1) You can drive on electric while cat conv. warms up.
2) If you are dragging extra weight on mountain at 7 deg. Batteries can provide extra boost.
BMW M5 hybrid is heavier than Tesla model 3 + comet EV combined
Government hame pollution ke naam pe bewakoof bana rahi hai. Ek toh yeh log gaadi lete samay 15 yrs ka road tak bhar ke lete hai aur phir 10 saal ka petrol diesel ban laga dete hai jiska koi bhi sense nahi banta aur upar se road tax aur tolls alag se lete hai aur roads ki halat ekdam maha ghatiya jiska government ko koi lena dena nahi sirf woh log paise khana chahte hai aur janta ko pareshaan karte hai pollution ke naam par. Upar se EV infrastructure ka koi thikana nahi hai aur hybrid cars ka option kaafi limited hai aur hydrogen cars waise hi mehenge hai. Seriously hadd hai yaar sarkar ki. Pata nahi kab sudhrenge.
They are LITRELLY forcing to make the prices of car to go up
This will make poor people get off the road so that rich people can enjoy their cars traffic free
Nice
Nope the roads are still a joke 😂
Mr Gadakri hates diesel cars at core, it reflects in his statements. In our country where EV Infra is non existent, Hybrids have gazillion taxes, this is stupidity. And with 15 years of ban govt is only promoting to scrap and gives no motivation to maintain your vehicle also impacting resale value.
True
point toh h
Even in USA most people don't buy EVs
@@Achintyanath EVs are trash
@@Petrolhead11you seem Biased petrolhead
Karol Bagh modders will hit a lottery to disable OBM and remove exhaust heater to improve mileage.
@@AkashYadavOriginal absolutely 😂
Finally a Karol Bagh Highlight !!!
If these are the 'acche din' then I want the bure din back 😢😂😂
Perhaps Sri Gadkari ji should focus on the old commercial vehicles and city buses. The level of discomfort we get riding 2 wheelers next to them is unimaginable. And the focus on city decongestion is not there at all... vehicles are creeping in cities in 1st and 2nd gear, which leads to pollution.
jitna scrutiny car manufacturer ko karte hai pollution ke liye utnaa or industries manufacturer or real estate wallo ko bhi karna chahiye
We need to do protest pan india
To stop this shit
Or else demand 20 years for diesel and 25 years for petrol engines
Don't worry. There are always some half educated pundits always going to support this without any reasoning
Yea
wyea we need at least 20 years for diesel engine
Also demand personal oxygen tanks for every citizen.
Yes
Emission norms like Europe and the majority of roads are so desi.
Feels like doing some saving for a top notch bicycle.
I remember Akshay Kumar's tweet in 2013, saying that it was time to clean your cycles and hit the roads(because of rise in petrol and diesel price). I say that it's time to get a fucking cycle rickshaw for short distances, like upto 2 kms.
@@ayushmankumar1483 i love cycling distances within 10km lol
@@ayushmankumar1483 Bruh that is wayy to short. Walk 2 km isn't that much.
@@Agent-57Road me cycle solane bale ko koi bhi ijjat nahi deta hey ....... Main problem
Emission norms like EU, taxes worse than Japan but roads like Africa! Welcome to New India!!!
Europe themselves don’t want to impose Euro-7, but our great minister wants to bring it at earliest
The most unrealistic policy is ban on car age....
@@riddhimukherjee2722 I agree. There should be a limit (with optional extension procedure), but 15 years is simply too low.
A law born straight out of car manufacturer lobbying 😂
@@N0Xa880iULnah they should check car emissions every 5 years and as long as it passes, the cars should be allowed to use wether it's 50 years old or 5
@@flyingproofficial That's what I meant by optional extension procedure.
@@N0Xa880iULoh I guess I am stupid
@@flyingproofficial It's alright mate
Do they make these ridiculous laws without using their brains 😂😂😂
I agree it's not suitable for us but do
you even have 1% of knowledge they have , I am sure you don't even know how catalysts work in cars 😂.
Over regulation is a big problem in our country
@@xninja2369European emissions norms without European roads and infrastructure
Law is good.
If we able to change fule.
Ho sakta hay ki je janbhuj kar Kiya gya ho
@@SadBoy-bq5rf Well India is big country , so you can not say your statement for all states and districts ..
And I didn't say I agree with them ..
Me ek technician hu aur mujhe Bs6 engines bilkul pasand nahi ab vo reliability nahi raha jo Bs 3 aur Bs 4 me milti thi plus engines ko bahut jyada complicated kar diya plus service cost bhi badh gya specially Diesel engines
@@kabirsingh2529 Exactly right. BS6? More like BS!
This is what happens when non technical people set rules for the technology. The car companies now should launch a bull cart or a horse cart to meet these pollution norms.
The good investment is to Buy Diesel car now n drive till next 10 years n after BS7 if next yr then automatically old diesel car prices stop depreciation rapidly n u can sell it after use of 5-6 yrs in good amount...it all about Demand & Supply concept.
What about the govt buses which spit black smoke everytime they press the accelerator?
Why would they seize their own vehicles 🤣 Rules and regulations are only for middle class people
They are ferrying 30-40 passengers at least, in one-way, leading to lesser emission, than it would be if everyone were travelling in their own car. Public transport of any kind is always a net positive in terms of easing traffic congestion and reducing pollution
Be practical bro
Truck owners are removing the DEF system with the expense of 35k to save money on DEF refilling expenses in the long run.
DPF?
@@dark_knight439 Diesel exhaust fluid
Diesel particulate filter. It's pain in a$$ for most diesel vehicle owners.
@@vaibhavdesai16 Good that I bought TGDI
@@vaibhavdesai16 It's not a big issue really with BS6 Ph2 engines. Just not using the car for short trips solves the issue.
Nitin gadkari should understand that, india is not only a capitalist country, rather it is also socialist.
And that is why we had nehruvian rate of growth since independence and only now it has changed!!
Socialist ideology has only made this nation poor and made the people lethargic!
Socialism isn't inherently wrong, it's India that's inherently wrong.
So ?
Ok lets control the socialism also fr some gud reasons...
Lets control socialism too..fr good reasons..
Make cars cheaper like other countries
Then we are happy to accept bs7 !
Please do make a video regarding emission norms and regulations for commercial vehicles for EU, major developed countries and most importantly for India. Because people who understand about automotive industry are really concerned regarding regulations of commercial and heavy vehicles.
He going crazy. He is not having anything other solution to stop pollution.
Impractical person. This is what happens when you mindlessly copy others.
In 1973, when asked about how Honda was the only car maker in USA to fully comply with the EPA emission standards while all other carmakers were grumbling, Soichiro Honda replied, "when EPA annouced the new emissions guidelines, Honda hired 100 engineers while GM hired 100 lawyers".
@@BigBratJ standard american procedure 😂
Haha
gadkari is way too arrogant. he does not care about the common man. Itni mehnat karke life mein pehli gaadi li hai. I have an emotional connection with my car; yes, it's a diesel BS6. Already bahut sara unfair amount of tax pay Kiya hai, agar future mein restrictions daale gaye mujhe meri gaadi drive karne pe then I will definitely leave this country and never look back.
Not only will I leave like Mallya i will also do a ghafla and run off to Trudeaus Canada
That's the sacrifice we need to make for our future generations, they aren't doing it for enjoyment.
@@sanketjaiswal stop producing kids then why should I worry aboutbu r future generations
@@sanketjaiswal if you really believe that then I feel sorry for you.
@@nikhilmishra3030ha bhai global warming is a sham, Earth is flat and what not. The feeling is mutual 😊
Also with every new generation of pollution norm, the power and fun factor of an engine reduces compared to previous gen. Its no joke that some decade old engines are powerful and fun.
We dont want Govt buses to be bs6 complaint, but the least they can do is maintain them and have a valid Emission certificate. if the govt needs to reduce pollution, they can start from the Govt vehicles which are far beyond their capabilities
Govt is not the solution.Government is the problem. For citizens in world because does not like you to rich. In india Nitin Gadkari is the मनुष
Good go to country where there is no government.....South African countries and our dear neighbour on the west 😊😊😊😊
@@niranjandesai2bakwas karna hi tha toh mu band rakhte
Bkwas he toh kr rha hai .. govt.kre toh Galat wah @@CountingStars333
Best solution to this is-upgrade public transport, especially bus services ASAP.
Also efficient public transport. That means better road and rail infrastructure.
I have been to Delhi more than twice. The metro system is so smooth, efficient, convenient and comfortable too. Plus it saves a lot of time, money and effort.
not everyone wants to be slaves of public transport. Some deserves freedom of private transport
Best solution is anyway supreme court and president should sack the current government and bring congress and alliance to power,its enough now.
@@NikhileshP1008 It's really the best public transport system in the entire country and an example for other states to follow. Ahem ...Karnataka?
Free government bus can't be good and luxurious!!
First learn to pay then become a philosopher
One thing that can be done is set 2030 as deadline for BS7, giving automobile industry enough time , thus they wont be able to complain and we'll have a chance to save our diesels, atleast a few of them
Yes
fr and also economy can crash if it goes wrong cause BS7 is very strict so car prices will defo increase 100% like alto gonna cost 9 lakh omg
One thing can be done,somehow this govt need to be thrown out,warna time se pehle koi kuch nahi kiya to sab barbaad ho jayenge.
@Spyron_ We lost the chance at throwing out this horrible government.
Bs6 is enough we don't need bs 7.
Or give us free cars.
What rubbish.
Stop adani power from polluting, it's easier to attach filters to coal plant than 1 crore cars.
India me toh CNG car hi best option hai money saving ke liya and bumper toh bumper traffic bhi hota rahta hai😢😢😢.
Honestly speaking....
15 year ban rule is just to collect tax and of no other benefit...it just forces an owner to upgrade for no reason...
Policy makers are just POLITICIANS who literally just want to fill their pockets and behave like so called environmentalists...
BS7 is literally like "aap car ko emission less hi bna do" 💀 wtf is this a joke?
If this is gonna be implemented in India the middle class is gonna suffer a hell lot...(Which it is already suffering by paying high taxes..15 year rule and many more)
Time to leave India honestly...cuz no one's gonna raise voice against these issues ....
The actual problem is not raising our voice on these government's bullshit policies.
Forcing people to move to Electric thats what it's all about.
The irony being the fact that the electricity used to charge those vehicles is produced in Thermal power plants!
And the fact that through EVs we are just outsourcing our pollution to the countries where children work in mines in the most desolate conditions to make our batteries.
@@namankalra4807You are talking as if we're living in a first world country. Bro India IS the country where children work in mines for extremely low wages.
@@leansnscenes7806 We are better off than countries like the Democratic Republic of Congo, atleast from what I know.
@@namankalra4807 sad that we have to go that low (places with a literal civil war) to find countries worse off than us.
BS10 : Even if driver farts it will be consider as emission!!
😂
A airplane makes almost 100x more emissions than some 10000 normal cars but
But for government just doesn’t care also I did not include all the shipping containers ships
Because they are less in number than cars, trucks and buses and more vehicle
Bcz all the cost which will go into convert these airplanes is not worth the outcome enough at all.
Anyway, I hate bs6 already, bs7 will be a great fuk off to car community and we should not let that happen
I dont particularly agree with airlines bit but absolutely with the shipping part.
But not everything is in their control when it comes to shipping.
Private transport on the other hand is easily controllable by comparison.
Airplanes also carry far more people. Also the pollution is not concentrated in cities. Delhi and mumbai need these laws to remain liveable.
@@greenrico10 my friend power generation?
Government takes taxes.. From manufacturer and consumer as well.. It's a double benefit to government and big loss for consumers
Govt. wants to reduce carbon emissions by implementing strict laws on vehicles. While govt. give permission to private companies to cut dense forests and make buildings in eco sensitive zones. To make a new eco friendly fuel we need huge research budget which we dont have. Govt. also haven't increased research budget for several years.
The government doesn't give a shot about the middle class the ministers or the elected representatives doesn't have to buy any vehicles nor they have to pay for fuel
If you want to less carbon then drop the price of petrol then people start buying petrol vehicle automatically
They messed up in a way, people were buying cng cars also, they increased the prices of that also. I don't like cng cars but this still is a better option than EV.
Guys this is last time we're ever going to see Diesels, of course they pollute more but they have higher thermal efficiency, they produce less heat, they are more reliable and the best driveability with good torque and that's why governments around the world hate them as people keep driving them. As long as Diesels exist EV sales will never increase. TDCI, TDI, DCI are gone, remaining will pass in the next BS7.
So is it risky to consider a diesel car now?
@@BraddysReagent if you ask me, their value will increase, as manufacturers won't make them anymore
I'm not against any Govt. Just giving my opinion... Instead of controlling pollution norms we should go for Hybrid cars tax rebate which consumes less fuel which leads to low pollution. Charger anxiety bhi khatam
Kya time aa gaya hai. Gaaliyo se bachne ke liye pehle declaration dena pad raha hai ki not against any government.
1st nitrogen oxide ki limit diesel ke liye 80 hi thik hai there is no need to reduce it to 60
2nd Real world driving me Rare and extreme situations ke liye 2x emissions tak relief deni chahiye
3rd 10 year and 2 lakh kms ke liye Emissions maintain karna is good they should go for it
4th cold start par emissions badhna nahi chahiye euro 7 is perfect here
5th OBM is also needed there is no reason to oppose this
6th tyres and bracks se hone wale emissions bhi control karne ki need thi so there is no reason to oppose this
7th electric cars ko battery long lasting deni chahiye whats wrong in that ?
I feel these people don't even know what's the situation on ground level.
The situation is that people are dying everyday due to pollution and climate change. There is a lack of knowledge among people who are infact getting the worst of it. Do you really think these corporate top management care about you. They are protesting because their profits are going down. Emotions, values, powerful engines, speed, bkl Zinda nhi raho gye toh gaaand me daloge yeh sab..
@@nitin9013 people think suddenly every road in country is flooding because of poor drainage, no one is asking why 200mm rain happened in delhi in one single day. Thats literally climate change right there but people prefer tweeting about flood from ac room while and driving to work in their 10kmpl suv
@@7567_Rex I totally agree. Also for some reason my comments are getting deleted.
The situation is that people are dying everyday due to pollution and climate change. There is a lack of knowledge among people who are infact getting the worst of it. Do you really think these corporate top management care about you. They are protesting because their profits are going down. Emotions, values, powerful engines, speed, bkl Zinda nhi raho gye toh buttocks me daloge yeh sab..
*My earlier comment
The situation is that people are dying everyday due to pollution and climate change. There is a lack of knowledge among people who are infact getting the worst of it. Do you really think these corporate top management care about you. They are protesting because their profits are going down. Emotions, values, powerful engines, speed, bkl Zinda nhi raho gye toh g me daalo gye yeh sab
Indian government is taking ideas for vehicle norms as per European countries but have no norms for industries
Please like to save diesel engine cars😢😢😢😢
Bheek mangu
Kyoki industries me unka hi investment hai.
EVs are happening. People like it or not. Technology doesn’t go backwards.
Green Energy - we can generate more and cheaper.
Cars are better Electric - Cost, Noise and Tech.
@@nou7401 ek baat batana bhai
Aapne Kabhi diesel car chalayi hai
Jo aap gyan jhad rahe ho
GADKARI should resign.
Very well explained. Kudos to you and your research. loved it.
I live in California which is one of the strongest rules on emissions. Every 2 years smog check.
I have 1991 BMW, just passed the smog test, results came out way better than many newer models cars.
If our govt is Environment lover then why cant Govt remove old buses and old trucks which are running since decades. Why cant they fine industries and factories which are polluting rivers and lakes. We really need a new Transport minister who can really understand the consumer.
Ikr double standards at it's finest. I still see govt buses that push out smoke like a factory and they want us to have cleaner cars.
@@abhinavmj1613 People are not willing to pay for it, if this will be done then the Price of Public transport tickets will drastically increase and same People who are advising this will start to cry !
@@gouravxh2631 bruh what kind of logic is this?
Old buses which are used in service can be replaced by petrol and ev buses. Many state govt have replaced old buses with ev bus for inter city connectivity and petrol buses for longer routes but this number is not significant.
I want to add one more thing , daily I see dozens of vehicles which spread so much smoke , has the owner been fined for using such type of vehicle?
There should be a rule for vehicles like this.
Ur papa will pay for it
Potentially puting Indian car makers into disadvantage who are recently puting their profit into RnD....where's other companies are way ahead in research to produce bs7 cars with better quality.......what abt govt buses...? They ar making life harder for 2nd tier cities where people buy 2nd hand cars and transport vehicles...for income.
8:00 I am totally satisfied with his statement It is not applicable on all cars as all the cars are not made for hilly mountain areas for example if you test an Alto k10 in low temperatures at high altitudes in mountains so doesn't make sense at all because a car like Alto doesn't even goes to the mountains in his whole lifespan
Himachal utrakhand me sabse jyada alto hi hai locals ke pass😂
@@gurmeetsingh7136 no but technically a car like Alto doesn't made to drive at low temperatures at high altitudes but you are also 💯 right
It's also risky because at slopes the cars need power to maintain its position otherwise they would need to use more and more handbrakes.
Desi sarkar se tho kya hee expect kare, unme se kaafi logon ko ye hee ni pataa hota how cars work but Europe ki sarkar se ye expected nahi thaa.
@@VAIBHAVMALHOTRA19 💯 true
Oh Bhaisahab! Jara Himachal ghum ke aana comment karne se pahle....... You will see so many Alto, earlier Omni etc
Highly impossible. Nitin gadkari have to understand it
He is not a real car enthusiast
@@Explorewith69 yea
@@ayushmankar4100 every eu norms bullshit
Nitin is an idiot, building roads without taking the environment and nature into consideration. Too much toll tax, basically he is charging for every new road made. 50 percent tax on vehicles gst +cess. too much tax on hybrids that could reduce pollution.
Vo gadha Petrol KO bam karke EV ko chalna chata Hai , par mada #rcho* KO ye Kon kahega ke electricity Abhi ke liye him diesel , coal ka use Karte Hai Jo sabse jyada emission Karta Hai 🤡
, not to mention we are in shortage of electricity recently in Delhi airport systems were temporarily down ..
Producing electricity is 55% of total CO2 emissions from the electric power sector alone ..
Agar Europe ki tarah Emission norms india me lagta he to Europe ki tarah safety indian gadion me kyun nehin he
Point toh h
Why cant we ban Diesel passenger cars and allow it only for public transport and goods?
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Timestamps -
00:00 to 00:30 - Meeting with Nitin Gadkari to manufacture BS7 vehicles
00:35 to 01:27 - Why European carmakers opposing BS7 vehicles?
01:28 to 01:41 - Why Italy created a fellow group of countries?
02:01 to 02:57 - Why Euro norms were created? !age drop in emissions during the journey from Euro 1 to Euro 7 norms
02:57 to 03:23 - Euro 1
03:24 to 03:43 - Euro 2
03:44 to 03:53 - Euro 3
03:54 to 04:04 - Euro 4
04:05 to 04:29 - Euro 5
04:30 to 05:09 - Petrol vs Diesel emissions, GDI and TSI engines
05:10 to 07:02 - Euro 6
07:03 to 09:45 - Euro 7
09:46 to 10:19 - OBM mandate
10:20 to 10:41 - Non tailpipe PM emissions
10:42 to 11:12 - EV norms in Euro 7
11:13 to 11:59 - Higher development cost
12:00 to 14:33 - Conclusion
Pin my comment for the audience
The animation in your videos are freaking Thanks for churning out quality content.
Ye sb ek chaal hai govt ki . Itne jayada strict norms p car average degi nahi then petrol khub bikegi or taxes aayenge. Environment k name pr kamai krne ka naya formula hai.
Aap jaise log jab tak duniya me rahenge ye hal hoga bhai ghar bhahar nikalo tab pta chalega duniyaa kaha hain or hum kaha
Ek saal m kitna income tax & gst diye ho jra btana .? Ek baar calculator leke k baitho fir mere s baat krna .
I like gadkari as person and road minister not like as automotive expert he's just comparing European countries to India and only unrealistic ideas and opportunities
Gadkari is only villian of diesel in India even government force us to sell our car in only 10 to 15 years why even EU and USA can't 😅
Opposition MPs should raise these issue in parliament instead of creating unnecessary nuisance.🧐👍
Opposition MP raise real issues
But Mr. Modi mutes their mics and sensor them
@@Amits710no they don't raise real issues, they create ruckus only. And no evidence of mic censor by modi. Today Raga lectured on Hindu religion, does he have guts to say illogical things for another religion ? Ans is no ! He is Hinduphobic and has a typical British mindset towards India.🧐
@@Amits710 muft ka 8500 dene ka prmoise karne se vote mil jata hai toh actual issues ki baat karne ki kya need hai
in reality, all INDIA voters ask their 8500 share from their MP and loot his house if he doesn't pay
A diesel is a diesel is a diesel!
EVs are happening. People like it or not. Technology doesn’t go backwards.
Green Energy - we can generate more and cheaper.
Cars are better Electric - Cost, Noise and Tech.
@@nou7401 The environmental and human damage caused by electric cars (rare earth mineral mining, slave labour used in the Congo for mining cobalt, disposal of lithium batteries etc.) is leagues above the environmental damage caused by ICE vehicles. Furthermore, we still produce the majority of our electricity from thermal power plants.
You may feel good while driving EVs, but the dirty work is being done by someone else/somewhere else.
@@kc4276 takes too much cost space and weight
1. Already GV/hyry boot loses 100L (350L vs 250L) between hybrid and ice. PHEV will be even smaller boot space, so the idea of using ICE on long trips is moot because boot cannot accommodate luggage for the trip in the first place. Same issue with FCEVs also, long range but no boot space to make use of the range on trips
2. That’s just the battery, you still need OBC, DCDC, BMS, motor, all of this junk is in the front in ev’s where engine was. You can’t put it in front anymore. Anywhere else and service will be a nightmare. Just look up Camry/lexus battery access, while rear seat has to be ripped open.
3. All this drastically increases weight, Nexon EV is 70kg more than ICE after removing engine and ancillaries. If you keep it, it will exceed harrier weight (1700kg) just for Nexon. Handling and suspension goes for a toss
4. Since PHEVs have smaller battery, and mostly no liquid cooling, the battery degradation will be worse than EV. A 250km range Nexon EV is cycled once per week in my 40km per day usage. A PHEV with 40km range will be fully exhausted everyday. I’ll be putting cycles 7x faster on a PHEV which means less longevity. 40x1500 cycles = 60000km. 250x1500 cycles = 375K km
5. PHEVs don’t have DCFC support, so most of the public charging infra is useless for PHEVs. And PHEVs sales do not improve infra for ev’s because ev’s benefit from fast charging - which PHEVs don’t have - and PHEVs can only slow charge - which is not viable for ev’s. You see the problem here?
6. Since PHEVs can’t fast charge, on long trips, you’ll have worse mileage than normal hybrid or even ICE. You can charge if you are staying at a hotel overnight but that’s about it.
Even in city, there have been times when I’ve charged at fast charger just because I was already at a mall with charger and I can charge while shopping. With PHEV you can’t. You can slow chargers - but that takes 7-8h which you won’t be spending at any mall or parking other than at homes
These are just the technical challenges, with the kind of discipline Indians have, they won’t even bother to charge the cars and run on ICE mode which is worse for emissions - same engine hauling 1700kg car vs 1300kg means less mileage and more emissions than ICE model of same car
And it’s not we who lack discipline, even the westerners don’t bother to charge either - so imagining Indians doing it is impossible. www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-54170207.amp
www.transportenvironment.org/discover/plug-hybrids-new-emissions-scandal-tests-show-higher-pollution-claimed/
It’s just not viable for the size, price and the weight of cars sold here. In west, you can downsize the engine from a I6/V8 to I4 (what Volvo did) to save space and weight
But the same isn’t possible on Indian cars which are already I3/I4
@@kc4276 FYI the report is from USA and tesla record in USA has proven in last ten years that cars driven for 200K miles (3.2lakh km) have just 10% range drop
The report already counts 10% range drop over 2.4lakh km of the vehicle life
5% mileage drop is also counted for ice cars.
You think companies are fools to give 8y warranty if they knew beforehand that battery will be changed in 5-6y itself?
This is ridiculous. The current emissions norms are good for at least another 10 years. The regulatory bodies have found out this (imposing emissions norms on cars) is an easy target and they are milking it and going to town.
First of all, the norms for EU 7 are far too strict and impractical.
Second, the difference it will make for the environment will be small compared to the efforts needed to achieve it.
Three, they are just punishing cars (which is a small contributor overall) for air pollution whereas mining, petroleum and other industries are nowhere near such regulations.
@@Vishnu-B golden comment 🥇
I would disagree with your perspective on the second and third point. The way I am seeing it atleast someone is doing a significant enough change at a country scale. What is the rest of the government doing...? What policies are being made for the other industries? I'm from Delhi. Born in Kerala. I am passionate about cars and bikeS always have been. But everyone has forgotten that not even a month back people were falling unconscious on the roads, people died because they can't afford to go from one air conditioned room to another. Bas baato baato me gharmi bht hogyi h, cyclones bht ho rhe h , flood bht aarhe h bolte jao. Kyu ho rha h? Yeh taboo question h aajkal.
Agree.
@@nitin9013 Nitin ji?
@@nitin9013 @nitin9013 For the 2nd point, look at the margin of reduction of each of the pollutants like its going down from 80 to 60 for PM for diesel engines. And what OEMs need to do achieve that will raise the cost quite significantly because OEMs are already doing everything they can to get it to 80. And that point about cold starts, thats such a small portion of a drive and yet they want to punish that?
You might say these gains may be small but on a nation wide or on a global scale its considerable, but similarly on a national or a global scale, there are far bigger contributors to air pollution like mining, space industry etc who need to be regulated first.
And regarding the condition in Delhi, I feel for you guys but vehicles are not the culprits for that... its the stubble burning. If they are really serious about emission norms and air pollution, why is there no clamp down on stubble burning?
And to add to my 2nd point, why dont these norms, even the current BS 6.2 norms apply to buses and trucks?! What they emit oxygen is it?
Why are only passenger vehicles regulated? When in reality, buses and trucks run longer distances and spend more time on the road running and more importantly have emissions far worse than the current cars and bikes. I'll tell you why, because passenger vehicles are the easy target.
And fourth point, these regulatory bodies be it EU or BS, they need to come up and provide the alternate solution and not just say "you cant run these engines". They should do the R&D, develop the technology and give it OEMs and say "here you go, this is how you reduce emissions. Now implement this in your vehicles"
Anyone can ban anything. Doesnt mean its right/correct. What they are doing now is similar to if a teacher continuously marked an answer as the wrong answer to a question but refused to teach what the correct answer was.
If it will get implemented we will miss the legend scorpio classic 💔
Hi i own a corolla altis diesel 2010 model. Will 8 be able to renew it next year??
बोहोत अच्छी जानकारी। presentation, animation ओर commentary एकदम perfect!
Suggestion: Present yourself in a news broadcast attire (formal shirt). 👍
This has very simple solution. Make taxes on new cars zero.
I was considering buying a diesel vehicle earlier but when thinking about the future of diesel and the resale value could be 0, I went for petrol car
Don't worry on buying a diesel now ...even after a decade there will be a large portion of individuals looking for diesel ...
Happily owning a diesel x7
@@FadilRahman. I don't think so. At current rate it won't take much time for diesel vehicle regulations in delhi to go pan india.
After that no matter how much someone loves diesel , nobody is gonna buy a a second hand vehicle which he cannot even drive on road .
May be some rich car collector but that's it.
@@memorizinguniverse4247 Only 7.5% of the population in our country own a car . Gradually when rest of em' start owning one especially from the second hand market most will always go for a diesel no matter what.
And as far as the NCR rule whether would be applied across India or not... there's still a lot of time left for it
@@FadilRahman. Delhi NCR is simply overpopulated with more than 3.40 Cr people with more cars on road and add to that stubble burning is the cherry on a cake. I am not saying that pollution is solely from cars but from surrounding industries and higher population. So it is highly unlikely for Delhi emission norms to go pan India, most of the Indian metros are not even half the Delhi Population.
@@V0LKSJAGER True...and till then we all should enjoy the last leg of diesels !
😭 no way our favourite car's will be gone 😢
Bro I will leave delhi and continue driving my 15+ years old vehicles and will give a middle finger to govt pollution curbing policies. Because most of this pollution bull shit is limited to Delhi NCR only.
Specially scorpio classic bcoz fortuner diesel hybrid is coming
@@futuremotive8123 Means Mahindra have to work on hybrids
VW भी India छोड़ने वाली है today NBT news से...mahindra से tie-up may be..
R1 is out of production 😢.
Nitin Gadkari The Villan of Car industry.
BS7 norms for cars
No norms for roads for basic amenities
Nitin main villain in car industry
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Sahi bola. Peheley Asia say industry hatao. Inko EV ka battery walo company nay Paisa Diya isi liya Diesel k piche parey h. We hate EVs.
interesting , informative and an eye opener . Great Job. I have compliment for Bi Turbo Team - you guys are the I Phone of TH-cam for Automobile Related content. Big Fan you guys !!
Superb video 👏. Thanks for putting up such information and Correct content. I am from the Automotive sector (R&D) so I can relate that everything shared in this video is very precise. You are one of the Gem youtubers💐. Keep it up & thanks. 'Cold start kit' is already at the stage of implementation here in my OEM.
I hate gadkari so much. He is killing automotive industry and killing our favorite cars.
Simply copying euro norms and pasting on a country like India which is 100-150 years behind the European countries.
Rubbish polices.
True.
Your content is very impressive Bro 👏
Jay Ho video a Gaya Bor ho raha tha bahut acche time per Dala video
In Hyderabad and Andra Pradesh sunder water solutions made water fuel car...he can make any existing car in 5 lakhs water fuel vehicle..he is running his car for 8years..why companies don't looking on water fuel engine..
Its a fraud u joker,if he is so smart why isnt there any company buying his patent
As usual, well researched and well explainer Videos...
With BS7...Our car industry will say.." Electricity Cars..No Emissions no Tensions" 😅
Because govt "cares about the environment" in a way that forces responsibility on everyone else.
When they do something that doesnt favour the environment, unless it becomes a big enough issue, they'll go ahead with it.
Still so slow on solving public transport, still having so many old outdated buses that are running beyond last leg.
But of course private transport = bad and we must penalise manufacturers for "ruining the environment".
Edit - lets not forget how euro norms just made the diesel problems worse. These legislators pretending they know what they're talking about is just problematic.
Upon that just saying "you will comply from this date fully" also doesnt totally make sense.
Europe pretends to care about the environment, and India isn't even bothered to do anything but copy what western countries write on paper.