Demo Footage from JVC GY-HM170UA 4K Video Camcorder
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- This is a short video I compiled after a few months of use with the JVC 4K Camcorder, the GY-GM170UA (what a mouthful). I decided to share the "SOOC" straight out of the camera version as well as what the footage might look like if you gave it a little bit of a color correction / grading.
Overall, I've really been enjoying this camera. It has all sorts of handy features like zebras, focus peaking, XLR inputs, a variety of recording modes, and shutter speed selections you wouldn't normally find on a DSLR based video platform, so it definitely has its bonuses when you compare it to the more popular video camera options available.
It also has a few shortcomings of course, but if you know what they are and are able to work around the few small issues this camera has then I think you'll be very happy with it.
When I was shopping for this camera, I was watching reviews and demo footage just like this for all sorts of cameras, so here's a little something to give back to the community that helped me pick my next great video camera.
Do you want to read a short review I wrote based on the same camera? You can find that on my blog, linked here:
[BLOG REVIEW OF JVC 4K CAM] cgardinerart.blogspot.com/2016...
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Thanks for the video!
thanks for watching and for your comment Jay!
Thank you from Panama
nice video. I like how you added color correction in comparison. Nice job.
Gene Cavasos thanks. I'm glad you found it helpful
I bought this camera for live event shooting, but this video makes me want to use it more. It really is a nice little camera.
Gene Cavasos I agree. I don't think it has gotten the attention it deserves personally. I use it for weddings, and stock footage but will find more uses for it as I go. Enjoy!
Looking at getting a used one listed in town for CA$1295. Thank you for your review, most I've seen are so skimpy on actual footage, with or without correction. Cheers from Calgary, AB!
Thanks for your comment! Really impressed it's held value that much actually since thats pretty close to the price I've paid this many years ago now. Also worth looking at is the Canon XC10. a little clunkier in controls - lots of menu driven - smaller size, I think similar price point.
Does anyone know how to make a time lapse with this camera?
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Hi! Thank you for posting. I'm thinking of getting one of these as a little brother for my JVC LS300 that I like a lot. There are times that a built in lens and powered zoom would be nice, and frankly a MFT powered zoom lens for my LS300 is nearly the price of picking up a JVC 170 So you are color correcting. Are you shooting in Cinema Gama mode with a standard or subdued color matrix to capture more like a LOG type of aquisition then correcting in post? I shoot my JVC LS300 in J-LOG then correct in post.. and that usually looks similar to Cinema Gama with standard color but more dynamic range. How are you using your camera at this point? Thoughts now that it's been almost a year since you posted your video.
Hi Alex,
Glad you like it. Thats pretty much exactly how I am shooting. Although sometimes I have the gamma mode on standard and tried out some of the wide dynamic range settings that it has built in.
I use this camera for events and interviews - mostly where it can be plugged into a wall and have an operator the whole time. Or I sometimes use it for shorter shoots when it has to be mobile / away from AC power.
I know this video is a year old, but I have this camera and have a few questions. What settings are you using for your colors? There's no j-log function for this one, but it seems quite close that way you can color grade later in post. It would help out a lot because the colors I am getting right now aren't great, and don't give me enough to work with in post. Thanks!
It's been a while since I set the camera up, and I know I did a lot of fiddling with it early on and never changed most of it since. but if you want to somewhat flatten exposure so you get something that looks closer to a log format you could try a few things;
cinema subdued for color matrix
standard gamma
WDR off
stretch black toe,
and try boosting the master black a bit.
that's what I've got it set at right now, but i can't say for certain how I shot the clips in this video anymore. not likely too much different.
good luck! Thanks for watching and your comment.
Thank you very much!
When I shoot inside with 1080p it is extremely dark and the picture quality is extremely soft. Any idea how to fix this?
hey dino check a few things;
open your iris to let in more light, but it also makes picture more soft with shallower DOF. so you need to find your own balance of what suits the scene and your focal length.
and then check your gain on the side, the little H-M-L. for high medium low, and you can set what +dB those are set for yourself in your settings. But each level up makes the picture noisier. So theres a balance for your scene and your lighting you have to choose yourself.
And also, you can set your shutter with the up and down buttons on the side close to battery, locked off shots or limited motion in your frame and you might be able to use a slower shutter to let more light in.
Also, shooting in high frame rates will let less light in too, so if youre doing 60 or 120 then that will make it darker as well.
Lots of choices to make. good luck.
thanks for watching and for your comment.
i should add, i don't particularly love this camera's low light capabilities. best thing you can do for it is bring more light inside.
IS the color correction the darker or the lighter? If it's the lighter then the lens has Massive purple fringing and it has an incredibly noisy sensor.
lumpyren the flatter looking picture is the original. Yes I find it quite noisy in everything but the best light. Purple fringing depends on aperture. You can get a good clean picture out of it. I shoot with it fairly regularly for certain situations - used it today to shoot a hockey game. Thanks for watching and commenting on the video!
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Sir, i am having trouble with this camera. My image is coming out with really high exposure, what settings do you have on your camera?
thanks for watching and for your comment. The camera does have a lot of settings to change, so to go over them all could be difficult, but how about checking a few things, like your Gain selector, maybe try adjusting your iris with one of the rings, see if the ND filter makes any difference, or maybe you've got your shutter speed too slow?
would like to help but there are just so many possibilities.
Do you have to color correct and boost the exposure for every shot? Does it ever take a good shot on the first try? I'm thinking of getting one, but I feel like you shouldn't have to do that much correction.
Hi Jessica, Thanks for your comment.
You can get a good shot on the first try for sure. I usually set all my cameras for the neutral/subdued color and exposure to allow for more room to grade it with.
But if you want to shoot in a picture profile that was better suited to looking good straight out of the camera, you can definitely do that too. I don't know that i have any examples to share on that note though.
And full manual exposure, so you can expose for the light any way you like really.
Great to know! Thanks! Considering this camera for a professional capacity, but was worried that the low price might mean a low quality.
Just curious how you did the before and after in post.
hey ReyesVisuals, thanks for leaving your comment.
I also did this recently in my fcpx tracker for sky replacement video. Do you use FCPX? basically -- make the clip the way you want it with grading. layer it up on top of the old one. turn off the edits on the top one. make a mask (in fcpx I use 'trim' crop tools) and then keyframe the opening shot of clip with the trimmed section in one place, and then keyframe final frame of video with trimmed section in another section of frame. presto bango! you're done.
I hope that helps - should work in other NLEs as well.
bro could use a ssd o hard drive to record direct on it ???
directly -- not that I know of with this one unfortunately. If you have an external recorder on the other hand -- you can get a clean HDMI out with this and record any number of other ways which would be the closest option to that.
The way you showed your graded shots made me quite happy. It's nice to see them side-by-side and you found a better way to do it than any other I've seen. Anyway, how bad is the smoothing from noise reduction on this camcorder? A major pain I have with many cameras is loss of fine detail due to in-camera NR that's often not controllable (a notable exception being my Panasonic G7 which sadly isn't a camcorder) and I'd rather have the noise along with the detail than a muddy smoothed image. I already have a Panasonic VX870 4K camcorder and am interested in upgrading to this, but I'm still on the fence.
Hi Jody. I'm glad the video has helped you so far. Thanks for watching and for you comment.
on the noise > I don't use any software for noise reduction, so if I shoot something with noise, it will find it's way into the edit. Thinking to the last wedding I shot though, I'd say my canon 6D with an f/4 lens had a cleaner image when I was shooting something like the first dances where it was quite dark.
It is really great when you have lots of light to work with though.
i know that's not really a helpful answer to your question, but it's the best I've got. haha.
Again how much
No price
Hey I got the camera today Chris, ill be doing some videos later this week wish me luck
awesome! wishing you well!
chirs how is it going? I was wondering why I cant turn on the mic levels. I see it when am in the audio menu but its not on display when am on recording and it won't let me turn in on in settings its there but grayed out. I tried reading the book and it doesn;t say anything about if its grayed out what to do. Now I might have my own answer and dont know. It has a histogram and from watching the videos they are in the same place. Now I do know the Histogram was not on the original but it is now with the software up dated. So maybe I cant have them both on at the same daymm time? lmao
Oh chris one more thing to add, they say the major difference between the 170 and the 200 is that the 170 cannot live broadcast, well that too is a lie. If you added the Teradek Clip encoder can mount onto a camera’s shoe mount, connect via HDMI, and transmit via superior 5 GHz WiFi at framerates including 23.976p, 25p and 29.97p. Using Teradek apps in an iPad or iPhone, it can have graphics superimposed, switch between cameras, and playback prerecorded videos. Just incase you wanted to get this it can be used with any cameras hot shoe. Just a little tidbit of information. I learn fast.
Whats up Chris, I was drinking in a bunch of videos about camera use and I thought about this being my only camera and to shoot video so I did some homework on upgrading my phone. Now I have a paid off iphone 6 plus and am sick of staying in debt because you don't have a thousand dollars each time a new phone comes out. Well I was watching this News broadcast and I heard about this Phone only on T Mobile. It was rated as keeping up very well with the New IPhone Xr or whatever the latest one is and I refused to get in debt for another phone. So I got this phone. It is the Oneplus 6T and it shoots in 4K at 60fps. It has Pro camera settings that you can set to auto or dial right on screen to the ISO, Gain, Fstops, etc right on the screen. It has the self level and the stableness when walking is not bad either. I will use this phone to shoot and post my first video with it and we will be talking more soon.
Interesting, thanks for taking sharing your findings. I won't be buying a new phone for a little while hopefully, but good to know that the technology is out there for things like that.
Recommend for making music videos?
it can do well at that I would say but it might depend on what you were shooting with before making a switch to this one.
Can this camcorder be set up so color correction isn't necessary?
thanks for your comment. yes it can, many options in the on screen displays for tweaking your color as well
Thanks. So what's the difference between this and the old one?
hey Ric, thanks for your comment and for watching. what is the 'old one' you're speaking of? I haven't tested any others in this line so I'm afraid may be not much help with that question.
@@cgardinerphoto the one without the A at the end
@@ricr.4669 I have a feeling - and this is going off 5 year old memories from reading the manual, that there was a version could be bought without the audio handle up top. It's removable. So I would bet that if anything, the "A" means whether the audio interface handle up top is included. Most companies I can think of won't iterate any substantial changes in a product line with a single trailing digit model change like that so I think you're safe.
Hey Chris what state your in? Am in NJ by the shore and I need someone whos good with cameras. I have a chance to book many training videos for some corporate companies paying good money let me know. I am close to Philly, NYC, Maryland and long island.
Hey Jonathan, I'm in a province actually. haha. Not too far out of Toronto. So not terribly far but probably far enough. Thanks for the offer!
No problem, maybe you can make a video of the settings you use with the camera
Even JVC ditched VHS (they invented VHS) lol
Lol. Yes. Not sure who hasn’t ditched vhs yet. Not sure where that factors in but thanks for your comment Windows 7. 😂
@@cgardinerphoto Never expected to get replied but you're welcome :)
Hi there, as someone else said, I know this is a bit older video but I just ordered this camera. I am on a budget but wanted the 4k quality as a option and nothing comes close to this price. I went to school for photography and then met this woman who I thought loved me but long story short I had spent about close to 10 K in equipment and we had a nasty break up. While I was out of the house she sold everything and all my work tools which took years to accumulate. But anyways am starting over and I also started back up my production company. (Jonathan Bashir Productions, LLC). I know its a learning curve with everything but I heard you mention final cut pro correct, as your editing software? Well I have the adobe studio, I use it in school so I get the 20 a month student discount. Now I know they have film editing there but am told its much more complicated whats your take on that? I did subscribe.
hey Jonathan, thanks for watching, an for your comment. There's a lot to have a 'take' on there, care to narrow it down? haha. I like FCPX, especially because I bought it once several years ago, instead of rebuying it every month like adobe stuff. ;) wish you and this camera well - I'm sure you'll do some great stuff together, I still use it pretty often.
Yeah, I get how we become comfortable with something we know. I like learning new things and am sure the work that this will bring in will help by new gear. Thanks for letting me vent, LMAO.
Where do I want to install ISO?
if you're coming from a DSLR type camera, ISO is called gain on this camera. you have H-M-L for high medium and low. and you can set what amount of gain for each in your menus. the three way toggle is on the left side near the base.
@@cgardinerphoto The image I shot was not sharp?
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The image I shot was not sharp
Make sure to turn on your focus assist (focus peaking) to help ensure you're capturing an image in focus.
@@cgardinerphoto turn on where?
Hey there @Tegeera Obusiraamu thanks for your comment. It can be a bit hard to diagnose a blurry picture without seeing anything... but some of the obvious things;
are you set to auto focus?
do you have the focus read out on screen showing the distance at which your lens is focused? and does that distance line up with what is in your scene?
is there ample lighting (high gain situations can decrease image quality, while not directly blurring, they can show as less than sharp)
white backgrounds displaying as yellow, I'd check your white balance settings firstly.
do you have any examples of your problem to share? either footage with problems, or photo/video of your screen?
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