Well actually if you are using a 1080P screen you can still see a big difference between 4K and 1080P since the pixels are bonded together make the colour and details more accurate. But if you're using a phone then no.
If you don’t want to buy a telescope, don’t! Don’t try to stop me from buying one! I can look at Pluto and it’s moons in 8k from my mind input device any day I want to! The world is flat to you, not me!
As you mentioned - the biggest benefit is ability to crop the footage. And I think that the initial quality of the footage is important, if you have low quality 4k you can scale it to 1080 or 720 and it will look passable, but if you have low quality 720 it will remail low quality.
Love the addition of 720p. This was a great discussion. It's more about what you're filming and how you're filming that determine if you really need above 1080. Especially if you're a growing filmmaker. You should focus on things that will improve your work exponentially instead of a small increase. Like better audio, lighting, framing, or editing. I'm glad you brought up cropping as a use for 4k. Bit rate and color are definitely points that people don't understand as well. I still use my phone to film, it does have limitations. Knowing how to work with them is important.
In video game it really matters if your playing in 1080 or 4k!! I can easily tell difference between 2 mode if you are rendering graphics but in real life it is minium.
Isn't it fascinating how a bitrate of 3000 and up can even make 480p look good? Edit: I also forgot to mention the obvious effect of youtube and other sources heavily compromising the bitrate in general, mostly to reduce the file size, and thus lowering the overall image clarity.
I bought into the 4K hype a couple years ago and it's just that.. hype. In some cases, shooting people, especially close up is less flattering in 4K. The imperfections in their skin are more detailed and obvious. I'll be editing and notice an eyelash on my cheek or a single stand of hair on my shirt that might not have shown up in 1080. As far as real world application, I have a 4K TV and a 5K iMac. I can't see any difference on the TV because I'm watching from about 10 feet (3 meters) away. I can see a clear difference on my iMac, but only if I am watching full screen. My phone is 1080 so any 4K content is being downscaled. Bottom line is that 4K does not inherently make your video quality better. Lighting and color grading make a much bigger difference to the quality that the end user sees.
Its not hype, it just may not be ready for prime time yet. I'm sure if you had a theater size display, you could see the difference more clearly. Even if it wasn't a big deal.
Keep in mind that 4K really shines on larger displays, like 60"+. When I first saw a 4k TV in a store for the first time years ago, I could definitely tell the difference. Then I moved closer to the TV. I still didn't see any blurriness or pixelation, and my mind was shattered.
Thats what 4k is for. It's really kind of useless on small a display. It's primarily so you don't have huge pixels on a large screen. That's why I got a 4K projector. Looks better with a 120" screen.
@@catguy4996 4K will look good on any size screen. It's just kind of a waste if you have a smaller screen. I also recommend a projector if you can afford it A short throw will take up less space than any TV., And if you have a regular projector for every foot you are away from the projecting surface will give you about 10" screen size. My room has about 12ft between 2 walls and my image is 120+ inches. To take full advantage of 4k you generally want 55 inches or more
@@jerometruitt2731 I have a 4k 32 inch monitor, the pixel density matters, its like putting on glasses for any game, you literally see more of everything, every detail in a texture, in 1080 there aren't enough pixels to show the sharpness of a certain texture or the detail in a model.
@@yesyes-om1po I don't doubt that it looks great but it's diminishing returns the smaller you go. I've seen 4k and 1080P side by side and you can barely tell the difference on most models.
Hey Hey Hey, I noticed the difference.... When I watched at 1080p settings, the video runs smoothly. But, when I watched at 4K settings, the video starts buffering. I feel that I am the only one to notice that.
bluemaki1 Sometimes shooting in 4K provides more footage detail, even on a 1080p monitor, because a 4K camera is able to capture a more detailed foundation before its converted to 1080p.
@@whengrapespop5728 However usually it destroys the color detail. There's pixel data and color data. Having double the pixels halves the detail in colors. There's reason why Alexa isn't 4K and is best used in 1080. Sensor size bit depth etc. all makes a huge difference.
@@BassamKhattar Most of every camera shooting 4K has it compressed. 4K is for luminance not for chrominance which stands for color data. Usually best 4K cameras can handle 4:2:2 chroma subsampling which basically translates to "every other pixel doesn't have chrominance data" and that means 4K 4:2:2 camera has 1080p corresponding amount of chroma data. Most cameras can't even handle that. For example h.264 compression doesn't even handle true 4K luminance data if bitrate is limited, which it always is. Then there's higher tier of cameras that in paper can handle 4:4:4 chroma subsampling (for example in 10-bit RAW) but those have a bayer masked chip which means it's physically incapable of outputting native 4:4:4. For example shooting with professional video camera capable of 4K 12bit RAW (which in theory corresponds to 4:4:4 color data) has true 4:4:4 color data only when down-sampled to 2K. My phrasing was off and having 4K doesn't really halve the color detail rather than at best it has half the color detail. More often than not there's 4K chips that has cropped 2K capable of higher chroma data than full 4K. This really comes to play when talking about Arri or Red cameras. Arri Alexa Mini has more color data in 2K than Red Epic in 8K. That's also why in my other comment I added "That said, I prefer 4K for I'm not a Hollywood film maker."
4k is way more useful when you do zooms or in big screens like cinema, otherwise on a computer screen for example even if it's a 4k screen it's not that useful
it really depends on where u watch, or how its rendered, 1080p with a very high bitrate gives you super quality compared to a 4k video with a mid to low bitrate
Also, the footage he showed had shallow Dofs that blur the background. For the fish tank types of videos (including symphonies recorded with small apertures) where everything is supposed to be crisp, then 4k vs. 1080 would be obvious on big screens. But if one is watching something on the phone, yeah, frame rate may matter more.
Hi, can you explain what the bit bit is as when i export from my programme it gives me the option, the higher the better but don't quite get what it is. thanks
@@stehume bitrates are the pixels, basically Bit and rate, it measures how fast or how much pixel rates it shows on your screen every seconds, the lower the rate, the slower the pixels refresh, leading to artifacts and basically low quality footage.
Well, I’ve seen Pluto and it’s moons and I haven’t left my house. I must be able to see through the roof of my house! I must be MORE IMPRESSIVE than the Statue of Liberty! 4K and 8k are NOT for your conscious mind! Visuals go straight to your subconscious mind. You DON’T THINK ABOUT THIS STUFF! A Subconscious mind doesn’t think! Thoughts are another input into the mind. Clearly you didn’t learn anything from school. Shut up idiots! Stop making fake news!
When viewing no, when recording yes. A 1080p video that has been down-sampled from a 4K video looks much better than if it was directly recorded in 1080p.
From what I've seen, once you hit 720p, encoding bitrate and quality and color bit depth start to make vastly more of a perceptible difference than going to 1080 or 4k.
@@FinalLugiaGuardian What advantage? Your eyes have a limited resolution. Past a certain point you literally can't see small details. By the very nature of our limited senses there's a sharply diminishing point of returns. It's like using an audio codec the can support a dynamic range of 200 decibels - that's nice, but you'll never need it and you wouldn't notice the difference if you used it. Check out the videos right here on youtube - people have done side by side, blind comparison tests, and people just can't tell the difference.
@@rdormer True your eyes do have a limited resolution. However each of your eyes have a resolution of about 6 megapixels. And both of your eyes work together to actually interpolate more detail than 6 megapixels. That's why if you pause the video and pixel peep, you can see a difference between 1080P and 4K. And you can see a difference the video in motion if you put two clips side by side and play them back a few times next to each other.
@@FinalLugiaGuardian If the only way you can tell the difference is by pausing a video and pixel peeping, or playing two clips side by side multiple times while carefully looking for differences, I'm going to go ahead and say there's no practical difference. If the only way to spot a difference is to view the videos side by side while doing things that no one is going to do when they actually watch videos, then do the very small, barely perceptible differences really matter? It's not that there's *no* difference at all, it's that by the time you hit 4k you've sailed far past the point of diminishing returns - and you're kind of making that point for me here.
@@rdormer I'll agree with with the assessment that there's no practical difference. I was only able to tell the difference because I was looking for it. It's only pixel peeping assholes like me that are going to bring it up and only when resolution is the topic at hand. In fact most of the videos I watch on TH-cam I watch at 360p while I'm in the bathroom.
I mostly film in 4k when I'm editing on a 1080 sequence and I need to zoom in some shots digitally. I'd switch from a medium shot to an extreme close up easily without losing any quality.
That's called a planning for bad shooter. You definitely waste all the qualities of any lens and will have a cloudy looking foggier image not to mention zooming in on noise.
@@marcusthompson666 the image doesn't get blurry if you film in 4k and edit in full hd, and it's not bad shooting, instead it's a great substitute for a zoom lens if you're filming and you don't have one.
This test would be different if the shots were filmed on a tripod. If you are shooting 24 or 30 fps and observing the 180 shutter rule (1/48 or 1/60 shutter speed), your image is going to be soft no matter what resolution you use because of subject and camera motion.
Agreed. It also depends on how good your eyesight is. Im registered blind and 720, 1080 & 4k look like shades of blurry grey to me! Come to think of it, WTF am I doing here?
AGREED! This is such an invalid test. Fast moving, fast edited images where none of them are super sharp - like these of the guy on the mono wheel - are difficult to judge resolution. The actor and camera are constantly moving, we get no closeups of faces - which humans judge better than anything, and the camera doesn't slow down long enough for us to even get over 24p motion blur. You probably could have shot half of that in 240p and it would have been hard to tell. Lock down your camera on a tripod, use better lighting and contrast and shoot human faces - everyone on earth will be able to tell the difference.
You can see the difference between 4k, 1080p and 720p better when you don't have that good lighting or you don't shoot wide open. That usually reveals it!
Matti, you are totally right that the 4k vs 1080p is hard to tell the difference. The biggest reason to us 4k is if you think you have to crop and resize. Also, loving the audio pack.
I agree with Artorias. The thing is, with a 1080p screen, you cant tell the difference between 1080p and anything higher. On a 4K UHD screen, the others look better due to pixel density. With my 4K UHD screen, i could tell the difference when i was looking for differences. Though, he shot the footage in what would make sense to be higher/lower resolutions, which helped a lot in his comparison. Like, could you tell the difference between shooting this fast motion still image at an ultra fast shutter speed and low Fstop, and this inanimate object at a slower shutter speed and high fstop? No, probably not.... Its just how it is. As for your comparison. horsepower sells cars, because even if they cant go 250mph in a residential neighborhood, they have the pickup they need in situations that they need it in. Have you ever driven a really slow accelerating car and tried to navigate traffic? Its a nightmare, you have to second guess every time you pull out or try and pass. With more HP, you are more confident that you can pass or make that turn into traffic without worrying about being smashed by another car. Its there when you need it. There is no REAL need for 4K, because most videos and games and images arnt in 4K resolutions... but its pixel density/image clarity is supurb for watching ANYTHING on. Does it sell? It absolutely does.... for good reasons. You can watch some Linus Tech Tips on this type of stuff, it absolutely matters and people... especially gamers, can tell the difference in a heartbeat.
@@Kiba69420 "could you tell the difference between shooting this fast motion still image at an ultra fast shutter speed and low Fstop, and this inanimate object at a slower shutter speed and high fstop?" Absolutely! Your depth of field is 100% determined by what f stop you shoot at! (Well, and your sensor size, but that's not a variable)
Love this video! Been preaching this to fellow studios and as far as clients are concerned, content is king. We experimented on 4k as well in terms of price and clients don't really see a difference that would convince them to pay extra for 4k.. For years, even today. We have been shooting weddings in 1080. Zero complaints so far. As a freelancer, this means an easier workflow. No need to buy the latest/greatest gear. We can focus on the shot than thinking about the gear and if it can handle 4k. The extra budget allows us to get better lighting or another crew. Great video Matt and i hope fellow videographers/studios would realize your point.
I don’t know what wedding ur shooting I hope 🤞🏼 u aren’t charge like $2000 for videos shooting 1080 . When can just grab a iPhone shoot 4K 60pt(in case pause n get pic out of it ) with A gimbal . Imagine they want to zoom in of video to have a pic instead print out ! It’s going to be so mushy ! No !!! Lol 😝 just saying .
@IIWII I agree . But still I don’t think 1080 pic cut N lol my iPhone screen is like what 3k n if I shoot 1080 video . I take screen shot of pic I can’t even zoom in n frame it . Cuz it looks like crap 💩. I think the youtuber is just using sepcific visual to trick ppl. He used 1080 then educated to extreme contract . N he was wearing AlL black . Try wearing pale green/red sweater . Se how much texture issues he will have .
@IIWII yeah I agree the tech n display on TV n phone , tablet used to restricted for 10 yrs most display r 1080. Last 2 yrs the computer , TV , phone, tablets r up to 3-4 K now . Especially last 12 months. So many the TV using Chrom built in has TH-cam n etc apps. I don’t even use Laptop 💻 any more . My 65” TV acts as my computer . Chrome has TH-cam app, Netflix , Amazon prime , discovery plus …. Anything 1080 p looks REALLY aged ! Just Google it . 2019 -2020 2021 TVs has had major upgrades from 2014-2018 very soon ppl wil start to see issues with 1080 once their old tv break down n get new TV. We have QLED VA panel (2 panels layer together ). If ur photographer friends r like in echo chamber of that . I hope u see the market is changing . Lol I use iPhone take videos . Any any day I need to Take Screen Grab, n then zoom in for a pic . There is no good way if any 1080 will look good being screen grabed n zoomed in. No way ! u guys better upgrade soon! Than in yr echo chamber . I am just trying to help
I noticed when you have a still image you can notice the higher resolution much more. But if the camera is moving in any way it's harder to notice the higher resolution. So much of quality picture isnt just resolution though. It's bitrate too. The brighter the light helps too
Exactly. That's why it's easier to say if it's is 4k or not while checking the background instead of focusing the guy. The houses behind actually give definitive differences if there's enough depth at the scene. But why do I watch behind instead of the action ? Well, architect problems :(
How can he show a still image ?. There's no still image, its a video. You mean when the CAMERA WAS NOT MOVING MUCH. Or there was NOT MUCH MOVEMENT WITHIN THE FRAME. Use the right words when you communicate.
@@mgr5550 I agree video would have been better used than image, HOWEVER image by definition doesn't mean picture Image- a representation of the external form of a person or thing in art
1080p just allows for a slower bitrate, the resolution change affects nothing whatsoever. A 4K 100mbps video would be the same size as a 1080p 100mbps video with an identical runtime. Lower resolutions just don't require the same bitrate to maintain the same level of image quality.
In my experience, unless you are viewing on a large enough, hi-res screen, and sitting close enough to that screen, it's pretty difficult (if not impossible in some cases) to distinguish between them.
man please help out. I ve got basic iphone 11. If i shoot a dymamic action in the night atmoshpere ( a person running down the street) should i use 1080 and 60 fps or 4k and 60 fps?
@@RedRumble14 You'll only see the difference if you view the video on something larger than your phone (and can display 4k)... if neither of those apply to you then its a matter of storage.
A great example of working around limitations. One criticism is that you have a TON of motion and often your 4k clips were out of focus, if this were a slower paced video I think we would see a significant difference in many shots. Hiding the 720 by using it for close up shots was very clever.
We see with the eyes first but watch with the brain after a dozen of seconds. And with my grandma’s bad sight she doesn’t even care if it’s 4K or 144p.
I think one of the really big things for YT content is the fact that even just upscaled 1080p is going to look quite a bit better in its delivery than native 1080p, because at 4k, it's being delivered to you at a much higher bitrate. Being realistic, I see a decent difference because I have a 4k TV on my desk, but provided I'm sat at a normal distance away from my TV, there is no difference to me at all.
I still appreciate 4k videos when I’m at my 1440p display, at least when text is in the video. I often can tell when TH-cam isn’t playing at the full resolution of my 27in display. But 1080p has never looked bad to me, 4k is just an extra nicety as a veiwer.
Matti IMHO you are talking about just one side of your coin. If you film in less than ideal conditions your 4k will look like 1080p. This if you use your lens wide open (where the lens is softer), use an ND filter (which takes away from sharpness), when your focus is off ever so slightly (like in the shot where the onewheel comes around the corner), with 1/50 and lots of motion blur, with higher ISO or in harsh lighting conditions. I have been there. Shooting in a studio with lots of lights, F8 and everything and your 4K will look much better. Just my 0,02 cents.
For high movement the 720 is absolutely fine, when I saw the hair was blurry I knew it wasn't 4k, I love looking at hair in videos to see each strand and you know it's high resolution. Just one of those things I started to notice when 1080 TV's came out I was watching it in a store and going "Wow you can see each strand" and I never stopped looking for that detail.
Color grading also is easier with 4K, as there's more detail/data. So, basically, 4K can help post processing a lot. But, for a final product, 1080p can deliver quality image perfectly well.
Also shooting 4K makes a big difference in noise reduction, provided the frame size is the same as 1080p. Once you downsample to 1080p, the noise becomes much tighter and more visually pleasant. The crop option not only helps fixing sloppy framing and keystoning. More importantly, it lets you fake camera movements, which saves loads of time and frankly some money too.
It (4k), with a good bit rate, is better when it comes to cropping in the post production process. However, I agree as my c100 mk ii gets plenty of use.
I'm using a 4k 13.3' XPS 13 laptop. I couldn't see a big difference between 720p and 1080p, but there was a pretty large difference between 1080p and 4k.
MKBHD: 8K or go home! ;) The point of 4K capture IMO is the reframing versatility it offers. You can zoom in a whole lot more on a 4K clip on a 1080p timeline without visible quality loss than you can on a 1080 clip.
I agree.. plus 4k is all about larger screens. You will see a difference on a 65"+ screen and especially if you happen to get it to theater sizes. I prefer 1080p, it's easier to use in many ways and completely sufficient for any screen under 50" IMO.
Great analysis on the difference between 1080p and 4K resolutions! Your detailed comparison and visual examples make it clear how each resolution impacts image quality
Noticed the resolution was all over the place easily on my 4k monitor (27" at a 20" viewing distance). Gave it a rewatch on my TV (50" at about 9 feet viewing distance) and honestly couldn't notice nearly as much. FYI, if you watch this on a 5k display at full screen there is going to be some interpolation that softens the picture and actually makes it harder to spot the resolution changes compared to watching it at it's native, 4k resolution. 720p and 1080p are also perfect 3:1 and 2:1 resolution scales at 4k so viewing this at 4k makes them stand out when there are any slightly angled lines and you get a very noticeable stair case effect. I also may have inadvertently trained my eyes for this kind of thing by working in print for 20 years.
1. As many pointed out here, in shallow DOF shots, it's a bit more forgiving. 2. There is a WORLD of a difference between a 720p camera, a 1080p camera, and a 4K camera. Shooting it all on a 4K camera and then downscaling it (in camera or in software) will produce a vastly superior image than a 1080p / 720p camera can ever dream to produce. 3. As a TH-cam celebrity, you get the VP9 codec on TH-cam even when uploading small res videos. The rest of us get that codec only on 4K content. The VP9 codec is VASTLY superior to the standard AVC. So this test is... not really fair.
It's harder to tell the difference when you're viewing this on a smaller screen size. I was able to easily tell the difference between 720p/1080p and 4k on a 50-inch 4K TV.
Did you know that most of the history of filM we saw 1 K in the cinemas. All you favorite movies only one K. It’s a mixture between resolution and viewing distance. Next time you see a billboard get close and enjoy the cmyk resolution ☺️
from my experience, still very useful recording in 4k as you can use the crop feature in your sony camera to get a better zoom, or to even zoom in production. Zooming in 1080p is not great quality.
TH-cam's severe compression makes 720p look like crap. They even demoted 720p to non HD. Blu ray downscaled to 720p can still look excellent on a high end plasma monitor or high end 720p DLP projector.
All clips were with movement, so I think motion blur pretty much smudges all the details. I guess static shots of object with details will make a much more noticeable difference, like switching resolutions on that awesome "4k birds" video on TH-cam, or footage from BMPCC 4k in a museum I once came across.
Yeah my thoughts exaclty. So it's pretty much up to what type of film you're using your camera for. His clips had a lot of movement but they were diverse enough to representate the average user I Think.
Agree. The value of 4K depends upon the scene you are recording. For sure, motion blur will negate much of the benefits of 4K. Also, the amount detail in the scene, such as trees in an aerial video require the highest possible bit rate to resolve them, especially if there's any motion. Watch a YT video from an action cam on a bicycle riding through a forest to get my point. The trees are all blotchy at any resolution. For static scenery, with slow camera motion, 4K makes a very noticeable difference. One more thing. We have noticed that, with aerial videos anyway, shooting at 4K and down converting to 1080p looks much better than video shot natively at 1080p. It must be the bit rate difference.
@@Rubik3x bitrate and codec are the two things that can make any recording situation very smooth. I own a pocket 4k and in all my testing the way the camera resolves detail in BRAW is just not a contest to any DSLR I've shot with, including the GH5/5S. Being able to shoot in raw allows you to choose your bitrate without giving up much quality. 8:1 and 12:1 look very similar until you shoot in low light. Highlights roll better and retain more detail in 8:1 but it isn't something you would notice under normal lighting conditions. 3:1 and 5:1 retain the most detail with 3:1 being best reserved for very wide shots and lowlight because of the high bitrate and very clean highlight recovery and roll off especially compared to 12:1.
@@aramisperez6378 Thanks for bringing that up. I had to do a little research to understand what you were talking about. I see now that BRAW is a new video format by Blackmagic that creates much smaller "RAW" files at various compression ratios you mentioned. When you mentioned pocket 4K, my mind immediately went to the tiny DJI Osmo Pocket that also shoots in 4K. Apparently Blackmagic has much larger pockets than the rest of us :-)
@@GlennBirkelev Dude, that phone has a 1080 x 2246 display. 4k is 3840 x 2160, so you aren't able to see any of the extra detail it offers. Plus, even with a 4k display, a smartphone would be too small to matter. The more you scale up, the more noticeable the difference is.
To take full advantage of 4k, you generally want a display of 55 inches or more. How much of us really use that much big display, I wonder. It was really an interesting discussion indeed! Thank you for the video Matti.
This. You can't really appreciate the quality on a 2k resolution phone or tablet. Buy a 55' TV or more. HDR 1080p is the highest quality you can appreciate on a phone or tab.
If you're talking about TV size, 50 inch and 55 inch are very common in every living room of the house now days. They are not considered as big size and getting more affordable, especially for the people live in the city. And also more movie, gaming consoles and streaming contents available in 4K/UHD resolution. In my country, especially in the City, it's very hard to find people using 40 inch screen and below in their living room. But in the Villages, People mostly still using 43 inch, 40 inch, or 32 inch. Here, people say big size, when you have a TV with 60 inch screen and above.
Exactly, I was at Best Buy a couple of weeks ago, and the 4k TVs on display were way better in picture, color, clarity, lighting, you name it, in comparison to my WQHD monitor and 4K TV at home, which is a midrange Samsung.
Well I am watching on a 1080p TV, and could tell about 4 out of 5... If you watch both 1080 and 4k footage scaled on the same TV regularly you start noticing how stuff looks different.
As 720p is just the quantity of pixels used, you can take a 360p video and double its size its to 720p but quality wise its going to be terrible, which is why a bad 720p recording device can look significally worse than a SD (480p) recording pro gear.
I totally agree, 720p is definitely enough when viewing any media, but I still prefer 1080. But when I take videos, I always shoot 4k 60 clips (or highest possible at the time while retaining quality). I'm not a film maker, and I basically only shoot short clips of family videos, and record in just basic mp4 files, so the storage isn't as much of a deal. But the only reason I shoot 4K 60 is that I can crop and slow down the videos in post, and then save the final files in 1080p 30. It's more of a convenience feature for me rather than quality.
I got about 50% of them right, but was surprised how good the 720p/1080p footage was and how many I got wrong. I think it really depends on the scene, if the scene is really detailed with harsh lines ie buildings then it's pretty easy to spot the difference between 4k and 1080p but if it's like a person or close up where there isn't much detail it's harder to spot the difference. I guess it depends on the scene you are shooting.
To be fair, the footage was very fast, had a lot of motion blur, and probably wasn't rendered at 100Mbp/s rate. There is a huge difference between 4k and 1080p when done right.
I was one of the people who were skeptical about 4k before. I'm like, there should not be that much of a difference between 1080p, and it was just a hype. but man, I once visited my friend who had a 4k tv and watched a movie on Netflix and I was blown. The price difference is just too much though
It’s definitely different when it’s not switching between resolutions during the vid lol I noticed some of them but when you watch 4K you notice but when they switch it’s too fast to notice lol
The reason why it's difficult to tell in these particular shots is because of the limited depth of field you used in combination with a lot of motion in the shots. With steady wide field shots with a high depth of field, you will certainly be able to easily pick out the difference between 720p, 1080p and 4k. So it really depends on what your shooting and how you shoot it.
@@carldrogo9492 It's not necessarily just for 'still pics'. You can tell the difference with anything that has limited or no camera movement, particularly when there is a lot of detail present in the subject that's being filmed. Your eyes can't focus on details quick enough when there is a lot of camera movement. The resolution therefore becomes much less apparent.
I couldn't see a difference between the 4k and the 1080 but definitely the 720 was off putting at first. There's no real reason to shoot 4k on the EOS R since it literally looks like 1080p anyways. Resolution≠quality
@@Mikemestergaming 100%. Unless you sit very very far from your TV area, or you're getting a small TV, a 4K TV will make a huge difference for PS5 games 4k TVs also aren't that expensive anymore
Michael Gordon I will strongly suggest a 1440p 120hz monitor if you are only gonna use the ps5 for gaming. Trust me 1440p 120hz will look infinitely better than 4K 60hz. However if the tv will also be used for video streaming than sure 4K for 4K video.
Marcus Brownlee did a video about how much TH-cam downgrades the quality of the image. It was interesting. FYI I could tell when it was 4K immediately when it was a hard object and on the closeup of the face.
Everyone who can't notice a difference, it's because you're watching on a tiny screen. The difference between 4k and 1080 is huge on larger displays. In fact 1080p looks terrible on both 75 and 82 inch tvs I've had. 4k becomes absolutely clear at larger display sizes, it's absolutely necessary there..
4k just reveals the hidden secrets of the image. That's the way I see it. You can use 4k if you got nothing to hide, especially on the character in the frame. When the dust on your editor's glasses were clearly show, I immediately knew it was 4king 4k😂
This is such a mind screw. Clips I could swear were 4k were 720p. Just proves that 1080 is still such a sweet place right now despite them trying to shove 4k (and 8k) down our throats. haha
Thanks for lifting the 4K burden for other primarily 1080p shooters :-) I think Dave Dugdale did a test with regards to bitdepth, resolution and grading. I think he found out that 8bit 4K graded almost as well as 10bit 1080p. So for heavy grading 4k is probably the way to go. Also, green screen keying might be better in 4K with regards to edge detail.
As I was watching the opening I thought I my internet must be dropping the resolution because some of the shots seemed a bit fuzzy. Funny that this guy said we can't see any difference. I don't know anything about film but I can definitely see the difference. Maybe it helps I'm watching on a 50inch 4k. Maybe this guy just got duped on his monitor and he actually bought a 720 resolution! lol
Great video that really proves the point as long as you edit on a 4K timeline, the different resolutions really make no visible difference for 99% of people. The vast majority of people consume video on social platforms and 1080 is all you really need. Thanks for making this important video. And your point about bit rate being more important for video quality than 1080 vs 4K is absolutely true.
If you have a pure 4k pipeline from camera to eventual screen, then it might make a difference but you also have to factor in HDR, the compression bitrate or things like that so it may not be about resolution alone... 🤔
@@sdawn2k176 I just got the PotatoPro 4.0...used the wrong charger...now it's fried! [i'm trying real hard to come up with more puns, but, I'm just not up to standards tonight....oh, well...carry on w/out me, boys. been a long week]
We have conducted extensive testing on 4K output and found that, while there is little difference in general image quality, text rendering shows a significant improvement. When dealing with small-sized text, the clarity on 4K is noticeably crisper compared to HD, where it appears blurry.
I find that lighting is really what makes something look good or bad. Resolution between 1080 and 4k is very hard to notice, what can be the difference between awesome and terrible is the lighting.
Very good point. I fly a drone that shoots 720 1080, 3k and 4k. When I shoot 1080 in low light I get a lot of noise. I now shoot 3k and convert to 1080, big difference. The noise has gone away and the color is better.
That’s what I feel is the main difference. Like I turned my sharpness up on my monitor and turned saturation and contrast up as well. And my games look the same as 4K. Obviously there won’t be those sharp edges in some areas but over all. It’s the same.
You have to take in consideration that you are still filming on a high resolution sensor and the camera is cramming the pixels into the different resolutions. A more accurate test would be to film on separate cameras with a 720p, 1080p, and 4K native sensors, then compare. You won’t see a huge difference with this current method.
That's absolutely ridiculous. A shitty 4k camera will be worse than a good 4k camera even though they both will be recording in 4k now Imagine a shitty 720p camera and a good quality camera in 4k. Use some sense next time.
@@artoriasoftheabyss1575 - I don't think you understand the premise of his statement. It not only would make a difference, but this test is tainted having it all rendered into one resolution. Some software upscales pretty well. To do this test - you need 4 or 5 different uploads at different resolutions then - it would depend on what you are watching it back on. The people that think 4k isn't any better and they are watching it on a HD display - really aren't thinking. If their HD monitor could look better with 4k played on it. There wouldn't be 4k monitors.
There is a huge difference between 4k and hd/1080. Yes, it is a kind of hard to tell the difference on your phone/computer screen. Try it on big screen. That is where you will notice the obvious.
One thing I have noticed is that the higher the resolution and the more special effects in a given movie the less interesting it is. I can say that of current movie production in general.
unclejezza If you’re into cars and other scientific subjects, then a 4K TV is useful, assuming you’re watching it at the appropriate distance. TH-camrs, like Engineering Explained, The Fast Lane, or Hydraulic Press Channel, use 4K because you have to see the details of all of the concrete stuff. Otherwise HD is useful for social stuff like NBC News or some ABC sitcoms as they are into the abstract.
Matti: "Can you tell the difference between 1080 vs 4K?" Me: Can you tell the difference between a 2MP image poster sized image and a 8MP poster size image? Basically, what the question really boils down to is "What size screen do you have?", because 1080P on a 21" screen isnt really big enough to tell the difference. 1080P on an 82" TV looks terrible compared to 4K. #PixelDensityMatters Have you ever taken a small image and zoomed in on it? Or taken a small image and made it "full screen", its the same thing. it looks good as a small thumbnail, but when you make it the size of your screen, the image blurs and distorts slightly because it has to spread the image over more pixels to become larger, obviously. This is why 4K is better than 1080p. For me, i use a 43" TV as my monitor. I just upgraded from 1080p to 4K and i can absolutely tell you there is a massive clarity difference in the content i view.
You can for sure tell the difference on a 4k screen. If you're not on a 4k screen tho, you can't really tell! Still not as obvious as what most would think tho! I got a few right, but was surprised when you said it had 720 in there! Interesting test Matti :D
Yea I'm willing to take Matti up on the betting of his house. There is a difference in 4K vs 1080p on a 34" monitor (1080/720 looked the same though). However, one of the biggest benefits to shooting 1080 with these hybrid cameras is rolling shutter -- way less when shooting HD. For example, A7III = 25ms in 4K, but only 9ms in 1080p (for reference, an UMP 4.6K is about 8ms).
@@mattih Its really impressive! Lots of detail still being captured. I guess its similar to what you were saying with Cinema cameras and how they may be lower resolution but capture more detail.
Exactly. How ridiculous. How can I tell the difference of he uploaded the video in 720p max? Am I missing something? Of course I can't see a difference.
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How many did you get right? And more importantly were you just guessing or you thought you saw a difference?
I have a finely tuned eye for this sorta things... JK I didn't notice a difference
I mean I use 4k when shooting in lowlight but mostly I shoot in 1080. Great comparison
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Damn! I would've never guessed the 720P! but at the end of the day, generally speaking of course, it doesn't really matter. Does it Matti?
"this is 4k:
me watching from a1080p laptop screen: cool
Well actually if you are using a 1080P screen you can still see a big difference between 4K and 1080P since the pixels are bonded together make the colour and details more accurate. But if you're using a phone then no.
@@Kylesaystuff ik im watching in 4k rn
@@Dopamine621 If you check 8K video on 4K you can still see a big difference, but for a phone, then is total BS.
Im watching this in 4k I lucky
Bruh my eyes in 280p
It only matter when you have an actual 4K screen to watch a 4K video on
If you don’t want to buy a telescope, don’t! Don’t try to stop me from buying one! I can look at Pluto and it’s moons in 8k from my mind input device any day I want to! The world is flat to you, not me!
Can human eyes see difference between 1080p and 2160p on a phone screen? Some people swear they can. But I doubt it.
@@billy.7113 they cant.. on a 5 inch screen
It is not an extreme difference, but a whole video in 4K just feels more impressive, I guess that's the best way to describe it 😎
anyone who says they can tell the difference, that too on mobile device.......must be high on something
Bro I watched this whole vid in 720p 😂
Me too
me, 480p... 😂🤣 Of course to save data...
Yep
I'm here with 480p ☠
64x64p
As you mentioned - the biggest benefit is ability to crop the footage. And I think that the initial quality of the footage is important, if you have low quality 4k you can scale it to 1080 or 720 and it will look passable, but if you have low quality 720 it will remail low quality.
Me when I see the 3rd clip: HM that's 4k
Text: 720p
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Same 😂
😂 frt
720p was mostly used in the close up shots. That’s why it is harder to spot the difference.
Mines 480 💀
Love the addition of 720p. This was a great discussion. It's more about what you're filming and how you're filming that determine if you really need above 1080. Especially if you're a growing filmmaker. You should focus on things that will improve your work exponentially instead of a small increase. Like better audio, lighting, framing, or editing. I'm glad you brought up cropping as a use for 4k. Bit rate and color are definitely points that people don't understand as well. I still use my phone to film, it does have limitations. Knowing how to work with them is important.
Exactly !
And where and what scrren size it will be shown on...
In video game it really matters if your playing in 1080 or 4k!! I can easily tell difference between 2 mode if you are rendering graphics but in real life it is minium.
For me it's 360 p and I can't complain. It's so nice to watch
Isn't it fascinating how a bitrate of 3000 and up can even make 480p look good?
Edit: I also forgot to mention the obvious effect of youtube and other sources heavily compromising the bitrate in general, mostly to reduce the file size, and thus lowering the overall image clarity.
I bought into the 4K hype a couple years ago and it's just that.. hype. In some cases, shooting people, especially close up is less flattering in 4K. The imperfections in their skin are more detailed and obvious. I'll be editing and notice an eyelash on my cheek or a single stand of hair on my shirt that might not have shown up in 1080.
As far as real world application, I have a 4K TV and a 5K iMac. I can't see any difference on the TV because I'm watching from about 10 feet (3 meters) away. I can see a clear difference on my iMac, but only if I am watching full screen. My phone is 1080 so any 4K content is being downscaled.
Bottom line is that 4K does not inherently make your video quality better. Lighting and color grading make a much bigger difference to the quality that the end user sees.
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True I love this statement.
Its not hype, it just may not be ready for prime time yet. I'm sure if you had a theater size display, you could see the difference more clearly. Even if it wasn't a big deal.
And my plasma screen still looks better than my buddys c9 oled 4k
Oh the 4K hype is real. It's true. It's a bit more better that's all. I got both an HDTV and a 4K HDR TV and I see some differences.
Keep in mind that 4K really shines on larger displays, like 60"+.
When I first saw a 4k TV in a store for the first time years ago, I could definitely tell the difference. Then I moved closer to the TV. I still didn't see any blurriness or pixelation, and my mind was shattered.
Thats what 4k is for. It's really kind of useless on small a display. It's primarily so you don't have huge pixels on a large screen. That's why I got a 4K projector. Looks better with a 120" screen.
@@jerometruitt2731 What about a 40 inch TV? Would 4K look good on that? I don't have space for a bigger TV in my bedroom
@@catguy4996 4K will look good on any size screen. It's just kind of a waste if you have a smaller screen. I also recommend a projector if you can afford it A short throw will take up less space than any TV., And if you have a regular projector for every foot you are away from the projecting surface will give you about 10" screen size. My room has about 12ft between 2 walls and my image is 120+ inches. To take full advantage of 4k you generally want 55 inches or more
@@jerometruitt2731 I have a 4k 32 inch monitor, the pixel density matters, its like putting on glasses for any game, you literally see more of everything, every detail in a texture, in 1080 there aren't enough pixels to show the sharpness of a certain texture or the detail in a model.
@@yesyes-om1po I don't doubt that it looks great but it's diminishing returns the smaller you go. I've seen 4k and 1080P side by side and you can barely tell the difference on most models.
Hey Hey Hey, I noticed the difference....
When I watched at 1080p settings, the video runs smoothly.
But, when I watched at 4K settings, the video starts buffering.
I feel that I am the only one to notice that.
FineStack when watching videos better quality requires better internet so its probaly that your internet isnt strong enough
@@anonymousfan6677 well it could mean 2 things your internet isnt strong enough or the quality on your chromebook isnt good
@@anonymousfan6677 oh ok
La differenza c'è.
If you watch at 240 p you can notice the differences
Can you REALLY SEE the DIFFERENCE 1080 VS 4K?
some people: NOP!
while watching on a 1080p monitor
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Sometimes shooting in 4K provides more footage detail, even on a 1080p monitor, because a 4K camera is able to capture a more detailed foundation before its converted to 1080p.
@@whengrapespop5728 However usually it destroys the color detail. There's pixel data and color data. Having double the pixels halves the detail in colors. There's reason why Alexa isn't 4K and is best used in 1080. Sensor size bit depth etc. all makes a huge difference.
@@eliteextremophile8895 can i know just how it halves the details in color, tech wise!!!
@@BassamKhattar Most of every camera shooting 4K has it compressed. 4K is for luminance not for chrominance which stands for color data. Usually best 4K cameras can handle 4:2:2 chroma subsampling which basically translates to "every other pixel doesn't have chrominance data" and that means 4K 4:2:2 camera has 1080p corresponding amount of chroma data. Most cameras can't even handle that. For example h.264 compression doesn't even handle true 4K luminance data if bitrate is limited, which it always is.
Then there's higher tier of cameras that in paper can handle 4:4:4 chroma subsampling (for example in 10-bit RAW) but those have a bayer masked chip which means it's physically incapable of outputting native 4:4:4. For example shooting with professional video camera capable of 4K 12bit RAW (which in theory corresponds to 4:4:4 color data) has true 4:4:4 color data only when down-sampled to 2K.
My phrasing was off and having 4K doesn't really halve the color detail rather than at best it has half the color detail. More often than not there's 4K chips that has cropped 2K capable of higher chroma data than full 4K. This really comes to play when talking about Arri or Red cameras. Arri Alexa Mini has more color data in 2K than Red Epic in 8K. That's also why in my other comment I added "That said, I prefer 4K for I'm not a Hollywood film maker."
@@eliteextremophile8895 you're the king 🤗
4k is way more useful when you do zooms or in big screens like cinema, otherwise on a computer screen for example even if it's a 4k screen it's not that useful
it really depends on where u watch, or how its rendered, 1080p with a very high bitrate gives you super quality compared to a 4k video with a mid to low bitrate
Also, the footage he showed had shallow Dofs that blur the background. For the fish tank types of videos (including symphonies recorded with small apertures) where everything is supposed to be crisp, then 4k vs. 1080 would be obvious on big screens. But if one is watching something on the phone, yeah, frame rate may matter more.
Hi, can you explain what the bit bit is as when i export from my programme it gives me the option, the higher the better but don't quite get what it is.
thanks
@@stehume bitrates are the pixels, basically Bit and rate, it measures how fast or how much pixel rates it shows on your screen every seconds, the lower the rate, the slower the pixels refresh, leading to artifacts and basically low quality footage.
@@marcm.official many thanks for such an easy way to put it
Also depends on the camera, if you have a camera that shoots quality videos you can have 1080p looking better than a cheap camera which shoots 4k
#BITRATE/CODEC MATTER
@@z352kdaf8324 absolutely, he didn't mention that, what's the bitrate of the final videos, if it's 8bit or 10bit, the codecs, etc....
That's not really in question here
Well, I’ve seen Pluto and it’s moons and I haven’t left my house. I must be able to see through the roof of my house! I must be MORE IMPRESSIVE than the Statue of Liberty! 4K and 8k are NOT for your conscious mind! Visuals go straight to your subconscious mind. You DON’T THINK ABOUT THIS STUFF! A Subconscious mind doesn’t think! Thoughts are another input into the mind.
Clearly you didn’t learn anything from school. Shut up idiots! Stop making fake news!
*most important point here!
When viewing no, when recording yes. A 1080p video that has been down-sampled from a 4K video looks much better than if it was directly recorded in 1080p.
That's just depends on codec and bitrate.
And what of a 1080 downsampled to 720? Does it look better than a native 720?
This helps me understand why I watch some 4k content that doesn't look like 4k, looks like 1080 then I watch other 4k content that blows me away.
The quality of the video is important for the camera taken, but the picture quality of the screen viewed by the viewer is also important.
From what I've seen, once you hit 720p, encoding bitrate and quality and color bit depth start to make vastly more of a perceptible difference than going to 1080 or 4k.
But if you have all of those prerequisites in order, then there is an Advantage going to 4K over 1080p.
@@FinalLugiaGuardian What advantage? Your eyes have a limited resolution. Past a certain point you literally can't see small details. By the very nature of our limited senses there's a sharply diminishing point of returns. It's like using an audio codec the can support a dynamic range of 200 decibels - that's nice, but you'll never need it and you wouldn't notice the difference if you used it. Check out the videos right here on youtube - people have done side by side, blind comparison tests, and people just can't tell the difference.
@@rdormer True your eyes do have a limited resolution. However each of your eyes have a resolution of about 6 megapixels. And both of your eyes work together to actually interpolate more detail than 6 megapixels. That's why if you pause the video and pixel peep, you can see a difference between 1080P and 4K. And you can see a difference the video in motion if you put two clips side by side and play them back a few times next to each other.
@@FinalLugiaGuardian If the only way you can tell the difference is by pausing a video and pixel peeping, or playing two clips side by side multiple times while carefully looking for differences, I'm going to go ahead and say there's no practical difference. If the only way to spot a difference is to view the videos side by side while doing things that no one is going to do when they actually watch videos, then do the very small, barely perceptible differences really matter? It's not that there's *no* difference at all, it's that by the time you hit 4k you've sailed far past the point of diminishing returns - and you're kind of making that point for me here.
@@rdormer I'll agree with with the assessment that there's no practical difference.
I was only able to tell the difference because I was looking for it.
It's only pixel peeping assholes like me that are going to bring it up and only when resolution is the topic at hand. In fact most of the videos I watch on TH-cam I watch at 360p while I'm in the bathroom.
4k and 1080p looked quite similar except in close ups but 720p was a bit mushier specially in the shadows
Yeah I definitely noticed on those 720p close ups
I noticed more detail in the concrete in the 4K clips it’s subtle but it’s there.
But in my opinion, on those shots it's definitely usable.
Nonsense, it was indiscernable.
I mostly film in 4k when I'm editing on a 1080 sequence and I need to zoom in some shots digitally. I'd switch from a medium shot to an extreme close up easily without losing any quality.
That's called a planning for bad shooter. You definitely waste all the qualities of any lens and will have a cloudy looking foggier image not to mention zooming in on noise.
@@marcusthompson666 the image doesn't get blurry if you film in 4k and edit in full hd, and it's not bad shooting, instead it's a great substitute for a zoom lens if you're filming and you don't have one.
This test would be different if the shots were filmed on a tripod. If you are shooting 24 or 30 fps and observing the 180 shutter rule (1/48 or 1/60 shutter speed), your image is going to be soft no matter what resolution you use because of subject and camera motion.
Also, a lot of people still use 1080p screens. I watched this video on my girlfriends 1440 × 900 macbook air lol.
Agreed. It also depends on how good your eyesight is. Im registered blind and 720, 1080 & 4k look like shades of blurry grey to me! Come to think of it, WTF am I doing here?
@@darren6202 😆😆😆
AGREED! This is such an invalid test. Fast moving, fast edited images where none of them are super sharp - like these of the guy on the mono wheel - are difficult to judge resolution. The actor and camera are constantly moving, we get no closeups of faces - which humans judge better than anything, and the camera doesn't slow down long enough for us to even get over 24p motion blur. You probably could have shot half of that in 240p and it would have been hard to tell. Lock down your camera on a tripod, use better lighting and contrast and shoot human faces - everyone on earth will be able to tell the difference.
You can see the difference between 4k, 1080p and 720p better when you don't have that good lighting or you don't shoot wide open. That usually reveals it!
And no movement / higher shutterspeed
i agree
actually no...there is no visual difference between 4k and 1080p. Avengers and most marvel movies are shot on the Alexa XT which is a 2k camera
If you’re using a big enough TV monitor, then you can tell the difference.
@@unknownunknowns on my 4k 55 inch monitor i can see some difference.
Matti, you are totally right that the 4k vs 1080p is hard to tell the difference. The biggest reason to us 4k is if you think you have to crop and resize. Also, loving the audio pack.
Agree. When I crop or zoom in, picture becomes fuzzier. That's when I wish I have 4K or better resolution.
@@pong4life it really does make a big difference.
Resolution sells cameras. Much in the same way that horsepower sells cars.
punch...
That terribly thought out comparison isn't even in the same universe
I agree with Artorias. The thing is, with a 1080p screen, you cant tell the difference between 1080p and anything higher. On a 4K UHD screen, the others look better due to pixel density. With my 4K UHD screen, i could tell the difference when i was looking for differences. Though, he shot the footage in what would make sense to be higher/lower resolutions, which helped a lot in his comparison. Like, could you tell the difference between shooting this fast motion still image at an ultra fast shutter speed and low Fstop, and this inanimate object at a slower shutter speed and high fstop? No, probably not.... Its just how it is.
As for your comparison. horsepower sells cars, because even if they cant go 250mph in a residential neighborhood, they have the pickup they need in situations that they need it in. Have you ever driven a really slow accelerating car and tried to navigate traffic? Its a nightmare, you have to second guess every time you pull out or try and pass. With more HP, you are more confident that you can pass or make that turn into traffic without worrying about being smashed by another car. Its there when you need it. There is no REAL need for 4K, because most videos and games and images arnt in 4K resolutions... but its pixel density/image clarity is supurb for watching ANYTHING on.
Does it sell? It absolutely does.... for good reasons. You can watch some Linus Tech Tips on this type of stuff, it absolutely matters and people... especially gamers, can tell the difference in a heartbeat.
@@Kiba69420 "could you tell the difference between shooting this fast motion still image at an ultra fast shutter speed and low Fstop, and this inanimate object at a slower shutter speed and high fstop?" Absolutely! Your depth of field is 100% determined by what f stop you shoot at! (Well, and your sensor size, but that's not a variable)
@@nebari3158 Well, thats not entirely the point i was trying to make... but you arnt wrong.
Love this video!
Been preaching this to fellow studios and as far as clients are concerned, content is king. We experimented on 4k as well in terms of price and clients don't really see a difference that would convince them to pay extra for 4k..
For years, even today. We have been shooting weddings in 1080. Zero complaints so far.
As a freelancer, this means an easier workflow. No need to buy the latest/greatest gear. We can focus on the shot than thinking about the gear and if it can handle 4k. The extra budget allows us to get better lighting or another crew.
Great video Matt and i hope fellow videographers/studios would realize your point.
I don’t know what wedding ur shooting I hope 🤞🏼 u aren’t charge like $2000 for videos shooting 1080 . When can just grab a iPhone shoot 4K 60pt(in case pause n get pic out of it ) with A gimbal . Imagine they want to zoom in of video to have a pic instead print out ! It’s going to be so mushy ! No !!! Lol 😝 just saying .
@IIWII I agree . But still I don’t think 1080 pic cut N lol my iPhone screen is like what 3k n if I shoot 1080 video . I take screen shot of pic I can’t even zoom in n frame it . Cuz it looks like crap 💩.
I think the youtuber is just using sepcific visual to trick ppl. He used 1080 then educated to extreme contract . N he was wearing AlL black .
Try wearing pale green/red sweater . Se how much texture issues he will have .
@IIWII yeah I agree the tech n display on TV n phone , tablet used to restricted for 10 yrs most display r 1080. Last 2 yrs the computer , TV , phone, tablets r up to 3-4 K now . Especially last 12 months. So many the TV using Chrom built in has TH-cam n etc apps. I don’t even use Laptop 💻 any more . My 65” TV acts as my computer . Chrome has TH-cam app, Netflix , Amazon prime , discovery plus …. Anything 1080 p looks REALLY aged ! Just Google it . 2019 -2020 2021 TVs has had major upgrades from 2014-2018 very soon ppl wil start to see issues with 1080 once their old tv break down n get new TV.
We have QLED VA panel (2 panels layer together ). If ur photographer friends r like in echo chamber of that . I hope u see the market is changing . Lol I use iPhone take videos . Any any day I need to Take Screen Grab, n then zoom in for a pic .
There is no good way if any 1080 will look good being screen grabed n zoomed in. No way ! u guys better upgrade soon! Than in yr echo chamber . I am just trying to help
I noticed when you have a still image you can notice the higher resolution much more. But if the camera is moving in any way it's harder to notice the higher resolution.
So much of quality picture isnt just resolution though. It's bitrate too.
The brighter the light helps too
Exactly
Exactly. That's why it's easier to say if it's is 4k or not while checking the background instead of focusing the guy. The houses behind actually give definitive differences if there's enough depth at the scene. But why do I watch behind instead of the action ? Well, architect problems :(
How can he show a still image ?. There's no still image, its a video. You mean when the CAMERA WAS NOT MOVING MUCH. Or there was NOT MUCH MOVEMENT WITHIN THE FRAME. Use the right words when you communicate.
@@mgr5550 I agree video would have been better used than image, HOWEVER image by definition doesn't mean picture
Image- a representation of the external form of a person or thing in art
PFP OF FAILURE
Matti : Should everyone film in 1080 and save hard drives?
MKBHD : *triggered*
Linus is being talked down from the roof.
1080p just allows for a slower bitrate, the resolution change affects nothing whatsoever. A 4K 100mbps video would be the same size as a 1080p 100mbps video with an identical runtime. Lower resolutions just don't require the same bitrate to maintain the same level of image quality.
In the end, it's the skill of the filmmakers over the resolution.
@@AndyKunkel Sure, but I'd rather watch films on my 4K tv over my old 576i CRT.
@@liamriley9816TVs and monitors are so good at upscaling anymore it's almost indistinguishable. Almost.
And this is 720 not tube TVs
In my experience, unless you are viewing on a large enough, hi-res screen, and sitting close enough to that screen, it's pretty difficult (if not impossible in some cases) to distinguish between them.
man please help out. I ve got basic iphone 11. If i shoot a dymamic action in the night atmoshpere ( a person running down the street) should i use 1080 and 60 fps or 4k and 60 fps?
@@RedRumble14 I mean if you have the option, why wouldn't you use 4k 60? Is it because of storage?
@@f9oeks965 is it really better? Then I guess I ll use it…
@@RedRumble14 well, slightly. But if you have the choice, I don't see why you wouldn't
@@RedRumble14 You'll only see the difference if you view the video on something larger than your phone (and can display 4k)... if neither of those apply to you then its a matter of storage.
A great example of working around limitations. One criticism is that you have a TON of motion and often your 4k clips were out of focus, if this were a slower paced video I think we would see a significant difference in many shots. Hiding the 720 by using it for close up shots was very clever.
Aperture also makes a difference whether you're shooting in the bright or dark, so shutter speed as well as definition COULD play a part in the end.
thanks, i just thought the same way, it also makes the huge diffrence if its 24/30/60 fps
We see with the eyes first but watch with the brain after a dozen of seconds.
And with my grandma’s bad sight she doesn’t even care if it’s 4K or 144p.
Me watching in 144p: Hmm! I can't see any difference!
You can not see anything on 144p. It is one big blurr 🤣
I thought the intro was an ad lmao 😅
Same !
BRO WTF same lmao smh :)
same here
I thought it was an ad for fat tire skateboards (onewheel).
Sameeee
I think one of the really big things for YT content is the fact that even just upscaled 1080p is going to look quite a bit better in its delivery than native 1080p, because at 4k, it's being delivered to you at a much higher bitrate. Being realistic, I see a decent difference because I have a 4k TV on my desk, but provided I'm sat at a normal distance away from my TV, there is no difference to me at all.
I still appreciate 4k videos when I’m at my 1440p display, at least when text is in the video. I often can tell when TH-cam isn’t playing at the full resolution of my 27in display. But 1080p has never looked bad to me, 4k is just an extra nicety as a veiwer.
why not 2.5k (1440P) on your 1440p monitor? This video here automatically set to 1440p on mine.
There's a difference all right.
The price.
Fax
not just that, the framerate
true
Matti IMHO you are talking about just one side of your coin. If you film in less than ideal conditions your 4k will look like 1080p. This if you use your lens wide open (where the lens is softer), use an ND filter (which takes away from sharpness), when your focus is off ever so slightly (like in the shot where the onewheel comes around the corner), with 1/50 and lots of motion blur, with higher ISO or in harsh lighting conditions. I have been there. Shooting in a studio with lots of lights, F8 and everything and your 4K will look much better. Just my 0,02 cents.
For high movement the 720 is absolutely fine, when I saw the hair was blurry I knew it wasn't 4k, I love looking at hair in videos to see each strand and you know it's high resolution. Just one of those things I started to notice when 1080 TV's came out I was watching it in a store and going "Wow you can see each strand" and I never stopped looking for that detail.
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The only "BIG" advantage of 4k to me is the rescaling and crop option. Nobody can lie about this part, it can really be useful
no doubt
Color grading also is easier with 4K, as there's more detail/data. So, basically, 4K can help post processing a lot. But, for a final product, 1080p can deliver quality image perfectly well.
Also shooting 4K makes a big difference in noise reduction, provided the frame size is the same as 1080p. Once you downsample to 1080p, the noise becomes much tighter and more visually pleasant.
The crop option not only helps fixing sloppy framing and keystoning. More importantly, it lets you fake camera movements, which saves loads of time and frankly some money too.
Absolutely
Also much higher quality in downsampling, which is way LITERALLY EVERYONE IN THE PROFESSIONAL INDUSTRY DOES THIS.
440p is honestly better than 4K, no noticeable differences at all
agree i watch every video in 240p because i cant tell any difference.
Haha 😂
It's exactly the same there's no deference between 144 p and 4k 😂
It (4k), with a good bit rate, is better when it comes to cropping in the post production process. However, I agree as my c100 mk ii gets plenty of use.
@@mattih The benefit of uploading in 4k is the better bitrate on youtube:
4k - 45-60mbps
1080p - 10-12mbps
720p - 5-6mbps
I'm using a 4k 13.3' XPS 13 laptop. I couldn't see a big difference between 720p and 1080p, but there was a pretty large difference between 1080p and 4k.
you will see a difference when you are watching on a 27 inch monitor though
actually complete opposite for me. 720p looks worse than 1080, but 1080 and 4k look the same
MKBHD: 8K or go home! ;)
The point of 4K capture IMO is the reframing versatility it offers. You can zoom in a whole lot more on a 4K clip on a 1080p timeline without visible quality loss than you can on a 1080 clip.
Also allows for a better image when downsampled.
that's the real point👍🏾
I agree.. plus 4k is all about larger screens. You will see a difference on a 65"+ screen and especially if you happen to get it to theater sizes.
I prefer 1080p, it's easier to use in many ways and completely sufficient for any screen under 50" IMO.
yup aha thats what I do! lowkey saving on lenses as I treat my prime as a zoom xD
I know one thing. The higher the resolution, the more grey hairs I have in my beard 🤣
Lol!!! 😂
😂😂🤣😂😂
720 , blurring soup
1080 , yay, it actually has pixels
1440 , this look great
2560, ok what am I trying to see
😂
LMAO
Matti let me tell you, the cleanest clip was the side view hover board shot and that was 720p, crazy.
Great analysis on the difference between 1080p and 4K resolutions! Your detailed comparison and visual examples make it clear how each resolution impacts image quality
The difference between 1080 and 4k is that 4k is a lot more crisp around the edges and shows a slightly more clear image than 1080
Thanks for stating the obvious
Static images. Moving images are blurred anaway.
Oh yeah? So how many did you get right?
Bro, did you watch the video?
@@ianosgnatiuc thank god that all modern cameras shoot >4k for stills hahaha
"People watching on a 5.5 inch 1080p iPhone 8": Oh wow I guess there is no difference.
iPhone 8 is not even 1080p
smd
That 5k imac is not 50inchs either.
Watching on my 2k s9 and it's the same :(
@@lopezfonsecaykeremiliano1548 youtube has horrible compression, watch a native res video, you'll see the difference.
Me: *watches the video in 144p because of my slow internet connection
Same here 😂
Watching this on 2160p is crazily beautiful
Noticed the resolution was all over the place easily on my 4k monitor (27" at a 20" viewing distance). Gave it a rewatch on my TV (50" at about 9 feet viewing distance) and honestly couldn't notice nearly as much. FYI, if you watch this on a 5k display at full screen there is going to be some interpolation that softens the picture and actually makes it harder to spot the resolution changes compared to watching it at it's native, 4k resolution. 720p and 1080p are also perfect 3:1 and 2:1 resolution scales at 4k so viewing this at 4k makes them stand out when there are any slightly angled lines and you get a very noticeable stair case effect. I also may have inadvertently trained my eyes for this kind of thing by working in print for 20 years.
50" over 9' away exceeds the resolution of the human eye so no one will be able to resolve more than 1080 at that distance.
1. As many pointed out here, in shallow DOF shots, it's a bit more forgiving.
2. There is a WORLD of a difference between a 720p camera, a 1080p camera, and a 4K camera. Shooting it all on a 4K camera and then downscaling it (in camera or in software) will produce a vastly superior image than a 1080p / 720p camera can ever dream to produce.
3. As a TH-cam celebrity, you get the VP9 codec on TH-cam even when uploading small res videos. The rest of us get that codec only on 4K content. The VP9 codec is VASTLY superior to the standard AVC.
So this test is... not really fair.
LIAR. I did the test hard to tell. Full stop.
@@africanhistory Did you even read what I said?
It's harder to tell the difference when you're viewing this on a smaller screen size. I was able to easily tell the difference between 720p/1080p and 4k on a 50-inch 4K TV.
yea I'm using a 65 inch and it's super clear to me
@@hoboholer I'm on a 55 inch 4K TV and there was no difference for me
@@philippthaler5843 get ur eyes checked
Did you know that most of the history of filM we saw 1 K in the cinemas. All you favorite movies only one K. It’s a mixture between resolution and viewing distance. Next time you see a billboard get close and enjoy the cmyk resolution ☺️
@@CozmicSwag no they fooling you they made it brigher contrast less they not fooling us but they fooled you 1080 is better than 4K
from my experience, still very useful recording in 4k as you can use the crop feature in your sony camera to get a better zoom, or to even zoom in production. Zooming in 1080p is not great quality.
Impressed how good even 720p can look!
TH-cam's severe compression makes 720p look like crap. They even demoted 720p to non HD. Blu ray downscaled to 720p can still look excellent on a high end plasma monitor or high end 720p DLP projector.
All clips were with movement, so I think motion blur pretty much smudges all the details. I guess static shots of object with details will make a much more noticeable difference, like switching resolutions on that awesome "4k birds" video on TH-cam, or footage from BMPCC 4k in a museum I once came across.
Yeah my thoughts exaclty. So it's pretty much up to what type of film you're using your camera for. His clips had a lot of movement but they were diverse enough to representate the average user I Think.
That's kinda how real content is. If you have to think that hard then it's not a huge difference.
Agree. The value of 4K depends upon the scene you are recording. For sure, motion blur will negate much of the benefits of 4K. Also, the amount detail in the scene, such as trees in an aerial video require the highest possible bit rate to resolve them, especially if there's any motion. Watch a YT video from an action cam on a bicycle riding through a forest to get my point. The trees are all blotchy at any resolution. For static scenery, with slow camera motion, 4K makes a very noticeable difference. One more thing. We have noticed that, with aerial videos anyway, shooting at 4K and down converting to 1080p looks much better than video shot natively at 1080p. It must be the bit rate difference.
@@Rubik3x bitrate and codec are the two things that can make any recording situation very smooth. I own a pocket 4k and in all my testing the way the camera resolves detail in BRAW is just not a contest to any DSLR I've shot with, including the GH5/5S. Being able to shoot in raw allows you to choose your bitrate without giving up much quality. 8:1 and 12:1 look very similar until you shoot in low light. Highlights roll better and retain more detail in 8:1 but it isn't something you would notice under normal lighting conditions. 3:1 and 5:1 retain the most detail with 3:1 being best reserved for very wide shots and lowlight because of the high bitrate and very clean highlight recovery and roll off especially compared to 12:1.
@@aramisperez6378 Thanks for bringing that up. I had to do a little research to understand what you were talking about. I see now that BRAW is a new video format by Blackmagic that creates much smaller "RAW" files at various compression ratios you mentioned. When you mentioned pocket 4K, my mind immediately went to the tiny DJI Osmo Pocket that also shoots in 4K. Apparently Blackmagic has much larger pockets than the rest of us :-)
On my phone I cannot tell the difference at all. The 720 example was surprisingly good. 🙂👍
Which phone do you have?
@@InvisiMan2006 Pocophone F1
@@GlennBirkelev Dude, that phone has a 1080 x 2246 display. 4k is 3840 x 2160, so you aren't able to see any of the extra detail it offers. Plus, even with a 4k display, a smartphone would be too small to matter. The more you scale up, the more noticeable the difference is.
@@InvisiMan2006 exactly the point. 🙂 If you see these videos on a mobile phone it really does not matter. 😋
To take full advantage of 4k, you generally want a display of 55 inches or more. How much of us really use that much big display, I wonder. It was really an interesting discussion indeed! Thank you for the video Matti.
This. You can't really appreciate the quality on a 2k resolution phone or tablet. Buy a 55' TV or more.
HDR 1080p is the highest quality you can appreciate on a phone or tab.
If you're talking about TV size, 50 inch and 55 inch are very common in every living room of the house now days. They are not considered as big size and getting more affordable, especially for the people live in the city. And also more movie, gaming consoles and streaming contents available in 4K/UHD resolution. In my country, especially in the City, it's very hard to find people using 40 inch screen and below in their living room. But in the Villages, People mostly still using 43 inch, 40 inch, or 32 inch.
Here, people say big size, when you have a TV with 60 inch screen and above.
Some people are saying they can’t see a difference when they are watching on a 1080p screen
Yeah. Little did they know when they walk into a Best Buy and see a 4K tv with stunning visuals. I guess some people really are just blind, no cap.
But some clips are in 720p so they should notice a difference with that drop in resolution but you can't. Looks just the same.
Exactly, I was at Best Buy a couple of weeks ago, and the 4k TVs on display were way better in picture, color, clarity, lighting, you name it, in comparison to my WQHD monitor and 4K TV at home, which is a midrange Samsung.
I am watching this on my Samsung 4k 50 inch tv, and he says you can't see the difference, and I'm like? what is this guy smoking?
Well I am watching on a 1080p TV, and could tell about 4 out of 5... If you watch both 1080 and 4k footage scaled on the same TV regularly you start noticing how stuff looks different.
The big question is: HOW do you get your 720p footage to look so good? It looks better than my 1080p videos!
EOS R bro , EOS R. hahaha. The video of quality of EOS R is crazy. You can watch Potato Jet's vid about EOS R vs A7iii video
As 720p is just the quantity of pixels used, you can take a 360p video and double its size its to 720p but quality wise its going to be terrible, which is why a bad 720p recording device can look significally worse than a SD (480p) recording pro gear.
-digitally upscale it to 4k, takes forever in processing power but helps
-upload as 4k, so youtube allocates max bitrate
Its upscaling.
Also downscaling. A video shot in 4k then exported and uploaded as 720p will look better than a video shot natively I'm 720p.
I totally agree, 720p is definitely enough when viewing any media, but I still prefer 1080. But when I take videos, I always shoot 4k 60 clips (or highest possible at the time while retaining quality). I'm not a film maker, and I basically only shoot short clips of family videos, and record in just basic mp4 files, so the storage isn't as much of a deal. But the only reason I shoot 4K 60 is that I can crop and slow down the videos in post, and then save the final files in 1080p 30. It's more of a convenience feature for me rather than quality.
Don't think many people, especially professionals, have the guts to admit the smaller gap from 1080p to 4K. Subbing for sure 👍
Try schematics or spreadsheets, you'll see the difference immediately on small text. Hence why most phones and tablets have high PPI screen.
I got about 50% of them right, but was surprised how good the 720p/1080p footage was and how many I got wrong. I think it really depends on the scene, if the scene is really detailed with harsh lines ie buildings then it's pretty easy to spot the difference between 4k and 1080p but if it's like a person or close up where there isn't much detail it's harder to spot the difference. I guess it depends on the scene you are shooting.
for sure you are a descendant of Sitting BullS
To be fair, the footage was very fast, had a lot of motion blur, and probably wasn't rendered at 100Mbp/s rate. There is a huge difference between 4k and 1080p when done right.
I agree. I got most of them right, but I was surprised occasionally. There was one I guessed was 4k but was 720. But only one I guessed that far off.
I was one of the people who were skeptical about 4k before. I'm like, there should not be that much of a difference between 1080p, and it was just a hype. but man, I once visited my friend who had a 4k tv and watched a movie on Netflix and I was blown. The price difference is just too much though
I dunno, I got a nice Insignia that can get kinda bright with some tuning it's 4k for only 200bucks
The difference is definitely noticable when I watch 4k on TV
It’s definitely different when it’s not switching between resolutions during the vid lol I noticed some of them but when you watch 4K you notice but when they switch it’s too fast to notice lol
@@kamdaddypurp69 ^
I never thought for one moment that you were making such rapid changes. The way you suggest it I didn’t have much time to analyze it
The reason why it's difficult to tell in these particular shots is because of the limited depth of field you used in combination with a lot of motion in the shots. With steady wide field shots with a high depth of field, you will certainly be able to easily pick out the difference between 720p, 1080p and 4k. So it really depends on what your shooting and how you shoot it.
Well, then that defeats the purpose if it only works for still pics.
@@carldrogo9492 It's not necessarily just for 'still pics'. You can tell the difference with anything that has limited or no camera movement, particularly when there is a lot of detail present in the subject that's being filmed. Your eyes can't focus on details quick enough when there is a lot of camera movement. The resolution therefore becomes much less apparent.
I can appreciate of the huge differences between 720p,1080 or 4K in Netflix..... don't you? (maybe for that same reason).
I couldn't see a difference between the 4k and the 1080 but definitely the 720 was off putting at first. There's no real reason to shoot 4k on the EOS R since it literally looks like 1080p anyways. Resolution≠quality
For the swag
It makes a much bigger difference for gaming (e.g. jaggies are drastically reduced at 4k) but for real-world footage, not so much
I mean it will always FPS>Graphical Settings>Resolution. But yeah if you can have all of those I bet 4K will look a lil better than 2k
So if I’m buying a tv for a ps5 so bite the bullet and go 4K?
@@Mikemestergaming 100%. Unless you sit very very far from your TV area, or you're getting a small TV, a 4K TV will make a huge difference for PS5 games
4k TVs also aren't that expensive anymore
Michael Gordon I will strongly suggest a 1440p 120hz monitor if you are only gonna use the ps5 for gaming. Trust me 1440p 120hz will look infinitely better than 4K 60hz. However if the tv will also be used for video streaming than sure 4K for 4K video.
Just copped a 4K smart TV boys
Thank you very much Ewan Macgregor 🤗
Didn't know you worked with video editing!
Also high expectations for Obi-wan series ❤️
Marcus Brownlee did a video about how much TH-cam downgrades the quality of the image. It was interesting. FYI I could tell when it was 4K immediately when it was a hard object and on the closeup of the face.
Everyone who can't notice a difference, it's because you're watching on a tiny screen. The difference between 4k and 1080 is huge on larger displays. In fact 1080p looks terrible on both 75 and 82 inch tvs I've had. 4k becomes absolutely clear at larger display sizes, it's absolutely necessary there..
Yeah. Even on my 27inch 4k screen, I immediately see the quality drop if I stretch a FHD and run it full screen.
@@samnectar then It wasnt a 4k TV then
4k just reveals the hidden secrets of the image. That's the way I see it. You can use 4k if you got nothing to hide, especially on the character in the frame. When the dust on your editor's glasses were clearly show, I immediately knew it was 4king 4k😂
This is such a mind screw. Clips I could swear were 4k were 720p. Just proves that 1080 is still such a sweet place right now despite them trying to shove 4k (and 8k) down our throats. haha
Thanks for lifting the 4K burden for other primarily 1080p shooters :-)
I think Dave Dugdale did a test with regards to bitdepth, resolution and grading. I think he found out that 8bit 4K graded almost as well as 10bit 1080p.
So for heavy grading 4k is probably the way to go. Also, green screen keying might be better in 4K with regards to edge detail.
As I was watching the opening I thought I my internet must be dropping the resolution because some of the shots seemed a bit fuzzy. Funny that this guy said we can't see any difference. I don't know anything about film but I can definitely see the difference. Maybe it helps I'm watching on a 50inch 4k. Maybe this guy just got duped on his monitor and he actually bought a 720 resolution! lol
Kyle Cooksey no you couldn’t 😂
Nah your just a dumbass and your internet was lagging.
The real question is can you spot the difference between matti and his brother (other than the glasses)!😂
If his brother was on 4K then you could def tell the difference...
XD
Great video that really proves the point as long as you edit on a 4K timeline, the different resolutions really make no visible difference for 99% of people. The vast majority of people consume video on social platforms and 1080 is all you really need. Thanks for making this important video. And your point about bit rate being more important for video quality than 1080 vs 4K is absolutely true.
If you have a pure 4k pipeline from camera to eventual screen, then it might make a difference but you also have to factor in HDR, the compression bitrate or things like that so it may not be about resolution alone... 🤔
"there is no significant difference and 1080p is better but i prefer 4k"
hey man what did you smoke?
Ikr how are we supposed to see in 720p👌
@@kwamemwangs2173 How tf you see that I could only see 144p
@@sdawn2k176 if you're using the iPotato 5.1 or lower, you'll need to upgrade at least to the PotatoPro3.2.1 :-)
@@just-dl Oh, ok thanks I'll consider the upgrade soon
@@sdawn2k176 I just got the PotatoPro 4.0...used the wrong charger...now it's fried! [i'm trying real hard to come up with more puns, but, I'm just not up to standards tonight....oh, well...carry on w/out me, boys. been a long week]
144p,240p,360p,480p:Are we a joke to you😭
720p:So I'm still useful?😳
1080p:I will stay mainstream! 😎💪
4K:😔
8K:...
Small resolutions are still useful for small screens and previews.
3G 240p: Am I a joke to you? :(
We have conducted extensive testing on 4K output and found that, while there is little difference in general image quality, text rendering shows a significant improvement. When dealing with small-sized text, the clarity on 4K is noticeably crisper compared to HD, where it appears blurry.
I find that lighting is really what makes something look good or bad. Resolution between 1080 and 4k is very hard to notice, what can be the difference between awesome and terrible is the lighting.
Very good point. I fly a drone that shoots 720 1080, 3k and 4k. When I shoot 1080 in low light I get a lot of noise. I now shoot 3k and convert to 1080, big difference. The noise has gone away and the color is better.
That’s what I feel is the main difference. Like I turned my sharpness up on my monitor and turned saturation and contrast up as well. And my games look the same as 4K. Obviously there won’t be those sharp edges in some areas but over all. It’s the same.
You have to take in consideration that you are still filming on a high resolution sensor and the camera is cramming the pixels into the different resolutions.
A more accurate test would be to film on separate cameras with a 720p, 1080p, and 4K native sensors, then compare.
You won’t see a huge difference with this current method.
That's absolutely ridiculous. A shitty 4k camera will be worse than a good 4k camera even though they both will be recording in 4k now Imagine a shitty 720p camera and a good quality camera in 4k. Use some sense next time.
Artorias Of The Abyss - Clearly you are remedial.
@@artoriasoftheabyss1575 - I don't think you understand the premise of his statement. It not only would make a difference, but this test is tainted having it all rendered into one resolution. Some software upscales pretty well. To do this test - you need 4 or 5 different uploads at different resolutions then - it would depend on what you are watching it back on. The people that think 4k isn't any better and they are watching it on a HD display - really aren't thinking. If their HD monitor could look better with 4k played on it. There wouldn't be 4k monitors.
There is a huge difference between 4k and hd/1080. Yes, it is a kind of hard to tell the difference on your phone/computer screen. Try it on big screen. That is where you will notice the obvious.
big screen sure, thats the point.
One thing I have noticed is that the higher the resolution and the more special effects in a given movie the less interesting it is. I can say that of current movie production in general.
Try that on a really large 4k+ TV and no up scaling of the 720p and 1080p. And match the frame rate for each sample. I think you'll notice.
And that’s the problem - how many people are watching 4K this way? Too few to warrant shooting 4K as prolifically as people do.
unclejezza If you’re into cars and other scientific subjects, then a 4K TV is useful, assuming you’re watching it at the appropriate distance. TH-camrs, like Engineering Explained, The Fast Lane, or Hydraulic Press Channel, use 4K because you have to see the details of all of the concrete stuff. Otherwise HD is useful for social stuff like NBC News or some ABC sitcoms as they are into the abstract.
Stefan Unson - I’m not saying there isn’t a place for 4k. I’m saying it’s used too often for no perceptible gain.
Exactly I watch 4k on my TV when I find a worthy video
On a 5k imac sitting that close everything looks super sharp, distance and size effects everything.
I personally think a good camera that shoots nice 1080 is still perfect. I rarely find myself shooting in 4k. 1080p 120fps is still epic af.
Yep so true
It's true for dynamic shots. It may not be true when your camera is on a tripod and things are not moving that fast.
i seee a difeernce feels so smooth and clear and how every video should look not pixel
Matti: "Can you tell the difference between 1080 vs 4K?"
Me: Can you tell the difference between a 2MP image poster sized image and a 8MP poster size image?
Basically, what the question really boils down to is "What size screen do you have?", because 1080P on a 21" screen isnt really big enough to tell the difference. 1080P on an 82" TV looks terrible compared to 4K. #PixelDensityMatters Have you ever taken a small image and zoomed in on it? Or taken a small image and made it "full screen", its the same thing. it looks good as a small thumbnail, but when you make it the size of your screen, the image blurs and distorts slightly because it has to spread the image over more pixels to become larger, obviously. This is why 4K is better than 1080p. For me, i use a 43" TV as my monitor. I just upgraded from 1080p to 4K and i can absolutely tell you there is a massive clarity difference in the content i view.
agree with you. i watched 1080p on 55" TV looks like watching 720p on 43" TV.. it is just not as sharp as watching 4k on 55" TV.
I watch 1080p on a 24" TV, so it's crisp on my screen
can you suggest me a video in YT where tey show how you can increase a video of 1080 to 4K? Thanks
If I shoot at 1080p and during processing I export the final video as 4K will it show any significant difference?
@@k3r0wgaming27 I don't see a difference on my 55 inch 4k screen.
This is awesome! Love how you put this video out after Teppo did his 720p video! Coincides well with it!
Yes 🙌🏻
Maybe on film the difference isn't noticeable, but man when I game on 720p I want to puke whereas on 4k it's stunning so yeah
Yes in gaming there is definitely a difference!
4K works better when it’s artificially done like animation or CGI.
As a new content creator, I'm actually doing some research to improve my contents and this video is very helpful.
Thank you
Conclusion. I'll just wait for 8K.
Nice
no
You can for sure tell the difference on a 4k screen. If you're not on a 4k screen tho, you can't really tell! Still not as obvious as what most would think tho! I got a few right, but was surprised when you said it had 720 in there! Interesting test Matti :D
Yea I'm willing to take Matti up on the betting of his house. There is a difference in 4K vs 1080p on a 34" monitor (1080/720 looked the same though). However, one of the biggest benefits to shooting 1080 with these hybrid cameras is rolling shutter -- way less when shooting HD. For example, A7III = 25ms in 4K, but only 9ms in 1080p (for reference, an UMP 4.6K is about 8ms).
I tried it and still little to no difference haha
@@mattih Its really impressive! Lots of detail still being captured. I guess its similar to what you were saying with Cinema cameras and how they may be lower resolution but capture more detail.
You can see the difference if you select 4K instead of 1080p setting on TH-cam when watching a video.
Exactly. How ridiculous. How can I tell the difference of he uploaded the video in 720p max? Am I missing something? Of course I can't see a difference.
This is a fantastic video and more proof that the camera and the lenses are much more important than the pixel count
I picked out the 720p shots as having a bit more "fringey" edge detail, but I could see no difference between 1080p and 4K.
Exactly there was a little bit of detail deprivation from the hair follicles on 720 versus 4K
Everybody: I’m gonna go buy ice cream
Matti: climbs Mount Everest to get ice cream
Well, for me.
720 : HD
1080 : HD
2K : HD
4K : HD
Well said
You could really tell it was 4k in the close up shots, that's when 4k does its magic