Yeah its not obvious if she progressed to some kind of state of locked-in-syndrome with age or it always was like that. The care worker Greg simultaniously sais quadraplegic but also sais he needs to communicate with her through a 'comms-box'. Clearly stuff has gotten harder because of assisted breathing in any case. It makes sense as far as 80s music goes "girlfriend in a coma" is the closest you will find, and although inexact medically speaking is kind of telling for her quality of life without San Junipero.
after playing soma this episode kinda makes me feel uneasy,is it rly still them after they die?is it a transfer?or are they just copied?the copy wouldnt know any better ofc,but the original is dead and doesnt care anyways
Black Mirror episodes with happy endings don't do it for me. I hope we, as humans, have happy endings, but Black Mirror is to give me catharsis for my existential dread. Aside from the Waldo Moment, this is the episode I always skip.
Rachel, Jack, and Ashley Too doesn't get enough credit for the soundtrack alone, Striking Vipers has a storyline that's just mind blowing, Men Against Fire is soooo sad I cry thinking about the reality of it, and I feel the same about MetalHead. Damn I LOVE this show!
I read somewhere that "uploading" conscience is only creating a clone of yourself, without transporting your mind at all. If that's the case, San Junipero's ending feels bittersweet - Yorkie and Kelly were convinced that they had a second chance in San Junipero, when in reality they were just encouraged to finally let go and be at peace with themselves.
@@Averagegunenthusiast The difference now is that there's a physical you, and a digital you. A digital you that, like software on a hard drive, can be modified or deleted at any time. Even if it was possible, your digital self will always be a slave to the company that owns it. What are the odds that the servers running San Junipero go down? Maybe there was a cyberattack, a disaster, or an accident. Maybe they decide to even shut down the project altogether. What happens to all those "uploaded" minds, then? Sure, that digital you is just like your physical self in every way, but is it actually _you?_ Or just code programmed to behave like you? If so, that just means your digital copy lives on in San Junipero, while the mind of your physical self is destroyed in limbo.
@@hotel_arcadia it is not you at all. It is a copy, that’s how software works, it copies then writes, the digital you isn’t you, it is like a clone but it would think it’s you. I always laugh at the people that think they can escape death by uploading their conscientious into a machine, knowing how it works I know you the real you still dies, your still dead so what is the point of a copy. With that said that copy would be a sentient being and it would be very easy to torture it so I see no benefit to creating a copy of myself. I prefer the real world anyway.
Depends how you do it. If you go the route of gradually replacing neurons with artificial hardware, all the while conscious, there's no copy, it's you the whole way. The brain already does replace neurons, it's just the interconnected pattern that needs to be continued. You maintain continuity between pre- and post- upload. Really it shouldn't even be called uploading, more like "transforming" into a much more robust, indefinitely-lasting substrate.
One thing that I’m sure wasn’t intentional but I found interesting is that Yorkie tells Kelly she’s from Santa Rosa( I’m from there) and when she’s traveling down the street for the first time it looked like our downtown area around that time with the club she enters looking like the local venue where bands would play in that same time.
If you were a teen during the 80s then this episode will be 'oh so precious to you. I watched it twice in a row whilst binge watching the entire series over a weekend. I would do anything to go back to the 80s when everything was simpler, brighter and enormous fun. Now the world is a much darker place so sadly.
I'm a '00s kid, but I felt so valid in the scene where Yorkie and Kelly traveled to 2000's San Junipero... I want my childhood back just thinking about it
On the mole- I took this to be part of her 'mirror' self. I have a mole on one of my cheeks, but when replicating it for character creators/avatars, I have to physically check which side it's on. Since you usually perceive yourself through what you see in the mirror, I'm wondering if her digital self wasn't just influenced by her mental image of her younger self as remembered in first person. Just a thought, thanks for these videos!
This episode is one of my favorites and definitely a breath of fresh air compared to the other BM episodes. The soundtrack and pop culture references were the cherry on top.
Even though this episode was the first episode to have a “happy ending” there is actually a slight dark side: By choosing to stay in San Junipero, Kelly would never be able to see her husband and daughter in the actual afterlife. If there WAS an actual afterlife. She chooses to stay because there is really no guarantee that there is actually life after death, where as San Junipero has a 100% guarantee to be living for eternity (if you want). If it DOES though, they would probably be a bit sad……. Still, it’s always nice to have a positive ending once in a while in a show like Black Mirror.
@@wombat5274 using your same logic you can’t say it DOESN’T exist, you’re claiming it to be false, as if you actually know, which you don’t, no living being does 🤡
Well if you follow the same logic that’s been discussed somewhere else in the comments, the “mind” that stays in San Junipero is a copy of Kelly rather than Kelly herself. So the real Kelly dies and goes into the afterlife, and a copy of her consciousness gets to go on and live the life that she couldn’t have lived during her actual youth.
As always, great job Bryce. I always learn something new - whether it’s a small detail I never noticed, or some kind of deep reveal or link. This is why I adore your Black Mirror breakdowns, your love for the show really translates in these uploads. That record is gorgeous too, I may just have to hunt down a copy for myself. It’s also nice to see you growing more and more comfortable with being on screen... makes them that much more fun to watch. Thanks again for making these, IMO, they’re hands down the best Black Mirror fan-made content on TH-cam.
Explanation of Kelly's Mole(According to me): I think, the system of afterlife gives user a choice of how they create their avatar. Kelly tried to create her avatar like she sees herself, that is looking in the mirror. Kelly must see herself in the mirror with the mole on her right side.
well actually he died too and didn’t go to San Junipero bc their daughter died before it became a thing 💀 nobody ever left in that family, they just died
This was actually a really sad episode and most had failed to see this…Being stuck in the past means everything you are would not exist….You cannot change the mistakes that you made in the past and you cannot dwell on the treasured moments for too long. Eventually, you have to move on! Sure, I miss the early 2000s, it was the most pure time in my life. I was a teenager, full of life and fell I love for the first time. But without the the pain and troubled times that I’ve experienced, I would have never have met my woman and had my two beautiful children, which I could never imagine not having them in my life. Without them I was cold and had no issues with taking a life. I could see you die I front my eyes and I’d smile knowing I was the last person you saw and I took joy in that idea. My life turned dark in the 2010’s and took pleasure in hurting others. But when my woman came in my life, the darkness went away and when my first child was born I finally learnt what real love was. I would NEVER give that up just to go back to a time where it was “happy” or “nostalgic”. F that, all of my pain and suffering got me here and made me stronger than I ever imagined….living in the present is more greater because you experience new obstacles, new love, new happiness and most importantly, you feel alive because you’re living in the present which throws you head first into unexpected twists and turns! Life isn’t supposed to be perfect. The whole ohhh, but my life could have been different if I just….NO! If it was supposed to go that way then it would have gone that way, but it didn’t. Imagine being stuck in a simulation that locks you in your own thoughts?…somewhat of a fake reality. That’s really heart breaking. And if you disagree with me then do something about your life and make the change, the clocks ticking, stop wasting your time!
I think the ending is pretty straightforward and i'm surprised if anyone really needs it explained. I love this episode so much that I purchased it on Amazon so I can watch it again and again....usually once a year i'll put it on and relive this fantastic story. I think it's perfection from start to finish and deserves multiple viewings.
I love black mirror but I neeed this deep dives after! The amount of stuff you miss first time watching it is insane. I looove all the incredible details they put into it. Definitely have to watch it all over again. This episode actually left me feeling happy at the end where usually I’m in a weird state of thought provoking questions after watching. So it’s definitely a nice change. I was shocked when it ended and they actually let them be happy hahaha
Yes, San Junipero is the only Black Mirror episode with a happy ending. However, if Integrated Information Theory (IIT) is correct, it means that as soon as a person "passes over," they are just digital copies without inner subjective experience (as they run on a computer substrate without causal power, etc.). The original person dies (showing, e.g., Kelly's grave in the episode). Hence, San Junipero is a graveyard full of dead copies, not actual living people still alive, and they're temporarily visited by elderly people who are still alive in the real world. I don't know if the authors went that deep into contemporary consciousness research, but if so, then this would give the episode such a deep, dark meaning.
Oh no no, this episode doesn’t have a happy ending. They are trapped in a computer housed in a building and forgotten about. They are in just one of thousands of sims in a giant warehouse. Everything ends.
I am SO glad that Charlie Booker changed his mind about making this entry of Black Mirror from another bleak and nightmarish concept, and turned it into something truly beautiful and very special! This episode is an example of the kind of impact that the advancement of technology should have on the world and enhancing the human experience and are existence for the better! This episode offers a glimpse of how technology can be utilized to create a world where true second chances exist. For those who were unable to live their lives, either due to disabilities or medical conditions that they were born with and severely limited their ability to live their lives to the fullest, or for those who suffer accidents that rob them of the lives they could have lived. It’s a world where the potential of a like that was shortened or hindered in the real world, is allowed to be fully realized in a beautiful paradise that offers the chance to live a more full life, right the wrongs of the past, and ultimately leave this life with no regrets or unfinished business. The option to be a part of San Junipero also frees humanity from the bondage of our mortality. Time no longer controls our life choices and experiences. The “afterlife” becomes on of limitless possibilities! This would allow people in the real world to live in the moment of their lives on earth without questioning whether their could have been different or better. This offers a piece of mind that your life on earth can be lived with no regrets, as San Junipero offers a safe place to live out the dreams and desires that we all wonder about. This is the one episode of Black Mirror that makes me sob in the best way, bc it is filled with tears of happiness. It’s an absolutely beautiful and brilliant piece of storytelling! And it gives me hope that we can use the technology we create, to enhance our existence in the most meaningful and lovely of ways!
12:03 A "Whoosh" sound is also what triggers the events of another show "The OA". A doctor heard a whoosh when one of his patients died and becomes obsessed with the afterlife. Though his methods for researching it are horrible violations of human rights.
Great details , but no one got where the moon appears after the rain on in San junipero. It refers to a discussion where Einstein questions , “ does the moon disappear if you don’t look at it “ is was and is a discussion between theoretical physicists. Basically the life we live is also constructed
@@darkphoenix00001 honestly i've didn't noticed palette until pointed out in video, but i am not following all lgbt's new ideas and do my best to isolate from them :)
I felt really weird watching this episode. It wasn't like any other Black Mirror experience, it was confusing and I was lost. If felt like some Movie my Grandparents would watch. It really feels like this for my friends too. I didn't like this episode, but I'm glad it's optimistic. Feels like it could be a Movie on its own that would my Grandparents watch not gonna lie.
This episode of Black Mirror was such a gasp of air ❤ (Despite my anxiety of a blackout or a sudden system crash on all of TCKR, and I don't know if everyone felt this at the end, or just a few) 😅
If we ever get to similar technology, it absolutely would be amazing for people who are paralyzed, in a coma, suffering from terminal illness, etc. I wish we could give them something like that at least, do something actually useful to humanity with this crazy technology
I LOVE San Junipero…and THIS is the only thing I hope the elites take into consideration and inspiration, if they could make a device like this for us I think it would be beautiful. Everything else they can leave alone lol
(Old comment, but anyways) I hope they not. Knowing them, they would probably ask for incredible amounts of money monthly (or yearly) to keep them there, much more if you stay after dying. Oh, you don't want your family to die permanently? Well, pay.
Saint Junipero is the patron saint of California. His motto "Always Forward" ties into the theme of the episode perfectly, both with the ending and in several ironic ways. SJ is bordered by the past and seemingly one small, inescapable, town and depending on your beliefs you can say the pair chose not to move forward. LA is the City of Angels, SJ is the city of the dead. LA represents a fake reality/ purified escapism, SJ is both of those. The merits of such are obviously a big theme of the episode. San Junipero = Los Angeles. Also the movie posters go from "Lost" to "Scream" to ""Born"". If you imagine "Scream" to mean death then it follows Yorkie and Kelly's journeys.
Why this simulation is seen as something positive when all episodes consistently warns about the dangers of the technology. Why if Heaven on Earth transforms into a living Hell?
@@ambeseate 2. It could turn into White Christmas at any moment and that is fucking teeeeeeeerifying. It would take 1 malevolent actor 10 mins at the controls to put ALL residents into a million years of hell.
This is my favorite BM episode. I was genuinely shocked to find out that this has a happy ending (of some sort) when almost every episode I watched before were not. I was already expecting something bad will happen and then it turned out to be a beautiful romance between these two characters.
For me it was confusing asf, it felt like a some Movie that my Grandparents would watch, it's so much nostalgic (I watched a lot of 90s films as a kid) but not good Nostalgia if you know..
Most of the music I like is from the 1980s and I really like Alexander O'Neal's song "Fake" (An interesting choice given that the story involves immersive VR technology).
Yorkie's clothes and neon colors in Tucker's made me think 'trans flag?' at first. Was curious if "Greg" being 'complicated' and 'you wouldnt like me IRL' would lead us to someone transfeminine who was too scared to transition in the 80s and most of their life. "Finding your authentic self" with Yorkie really hit me close. The queer experience of being afraid of everyone looking resonates anyhow. Happy to have guessed wrong just as much as I'd have liked being right, it is a great story. While I was quick to pick up on timecapsule and afterlife themes I really enjoyed being puzzled how things would go together and where the episode would go, getting to know more about these characters at breakneck speed. Tiny bit jelly that they get to try clothes that easily and customise their appearance and age, on the other hand it is just as emotionally labouring to figure out who is the real you, the amount of possibilities with this technologies can be paralizing and we are ultimately limited by our own brain and cultural understanding when it comes to self acceptance. The freedom seen here isn't merely eternal life, it is about accepting life and yourself, being ready for the rest of it. Good luck with your own journey. Transition is hard, medical access, psychological labour, social tension. But we only get one body right now. I myself wouldn't have been happy as either binary gender, but understanding myself better now has made it much clearer what I want to change about my body for myself and how I am percieved and which things I can make peace with. Scary at times, but worth it. Bringing my body and identity closer together has made me the happiest I have ever been.
How did Heaven is a place on earth play "out of nowhere" if he was listening to a 1987 playlist given that song is also from '87? I dont get why it seems like a suprise.
I can just imagine Billy Butchers (from the boys) reaction to this. Something about lasses scissoring for eternity but as long as their happy who gives a fuck 😂😂
very awesome on the details. never seen this show. only herd of it through Rick and Morty cartoon as the main character insisted I get cultured so his jokes could land. now I see how I'm missing out on a lot. I wouldn't mind watching this as I otherwise wouldn't have.
I just couldn't. I forced myself so much to watch this episode and something just ruined my experience and expections. Watched continuously to first 7 minutes and then started skipping till 20:00. I'm not against anything but as a Men I just rage quit at 20:00 of that episode and never watched it. Not a my type of thing. It feels awful to me.
While Belinda Carlisle's "Heaven is a place on Earth" was okay I'd have liked to have seen her other 1987 hit "Circle in the Sand" ( th-cam.com/video/hgpXSoWBAVA/w-d-xo.html ) play too, another song I'd liked to have seen in the stories Whitney Houston's first big hit "How Will I Know? - th-cam.com/video/m3-hY-hlhBg/w-d-xo.html".
Yorkie was not in a coma. She was paralyzed. An important distinction making her situation much much more tragic.
Spot on
Yeah its not obvious if she progressed to some kind of state of locked-in-syndrome with age or it always was like that. The care worker Greg simultaniously sais quadraplegic but also sais he needs to communicate with her through a 'comms-box'. Clearly stuff has gotten harder because of assisted breathing in any case. It makes sense as far as 80s music goes "girlfriend in a coma" is the closest you will find, and although inexact medically speaking is kind of telling for her quality of life without San Junipero.
Yeah. I feel like they may have just misspoken but did actually know that distinction.
Had San Junipero been a stand alone movie it would have won Emmys. What an amazing episode and story, and that ending was the best I've ever seen. ♥️
pls what season and episode it this
@@marvelgold2743 S3 Ep3
I agree!
It won two prime time Emmys
Lol its the most stupidest ever 😂😂😂😂 boring af just for the sake of woke people
Has to be one of my favorite episodes of Black Mirror. One of very few with a happy ending.
after playing soma this episode kinda makes me feel uneasy,is it rly still them after they die?is it a transfer?or are they just copied?the copy wouldnt know any better ofc,but the original is dead and doesnt care anyways
I like hang the Dj I kinda think nosedive has a pretty happy ending to . LaCie can see her dream guy without her ratings.
Black Mirror episodes with happy endings don't do it for me. I hope we, as humans, have happy endings, but Black Mirror is to give me catharsis for my existential dread. Aside from the Waldo Moment, this is the episode I always skip.
Yeah, I probably rewatch the Entire History of You, Playtest, White Christmas, Crocodile, and 15 Million Merits the most.
Rachel, Jack, and Ashley Too doesn't get enough credit for the soundtrack alone, Striking Vipers has a storyline that's just mind blowing, Men Against Fire is soooo sad I cry thinking about the reality of it, and I feel the same about MetalHead. Damn I LOVE this show!
The mole on the other side of her face, well that might be how she sees it because when she looks in the mirror that is where she sees it.
Love this!
Exactly what I was thinking…
I read somewhere that "uploading" conscience is only creating a clone of yourself, without transporting your mind at all. If that's the case, San Junipero's ending feels bittersweet - Yorkie and Kelly were convinced that they had a second chance in San Junipero, when in reality they were just encouraged to finally let go and be at peace with themselves.
When you download software you copy it and rewrite it to your hard drive. I can’t see uploading a conscientious any different.
@@Averagegunenthusiast The difference now is that there's a physical you, and a digital you. A digital you that, like software on a hard drive, can be modified or deleted at any time. Even if it was possible, your digital self will always be a slave to the company that owns it. What are the odds that the servers running San Junipero go down? Maybe there was a cyberattack, a disaster, or an accident. Maybe they decide to even shut down the project altogether. What happens to all those "uploaded" minds, then?
Sure, that digital you is just like your physical self in every way, but is it actually _you?_ Or just code programmed to behave like you? If so, that just means your digital copy lives on in San Junipero, while the mind of your physical self is destroyed in limbo.
@@hotel_arcadia it is not you at all. It is a copy, that’s how software works, it copies then writes, the digital you isn’t you, it is like a clone but it would think it’s you. I always laugh at the people that think they can escape death by uploading their conscientious into a machine, knowing how it works I know you the real you still dies, your still dead so what is the point of a copy. With that said that copy would be a sentient being and it would be very easy to torture it so I see no benefit to creating a copy of myself. I prefer the real world anyway.
@@Averagegunenthusiast That's.. what I said, thank you for reinforcing my point.
Depends how you do it. If you go the route of gradually replacing neurons with artificial hardware, all the while conscious, there's no copy, it's you the whole way. The brain already does replace neurons, it's just the interconnected pattern that needs to be continued. You maintain continuity between pre- and post- upload. Really it shouldn't even be called uploading, more like "transforming" into a much more robust, indefinitely-lasting substrate.
One thing that I’m sure wasn’t intentional but I found interesting is that Yorkie tells Kelly she’s from Santa Rosa( I’m from there) and when she’s traveling down the street for the first time it looked like our downtown area around that time with the club she enters looking like the local venue where bands would play in that same time.
If you were a teen during the 80s then this episode will be 'oh so precious to you. I watched it twice in a row whilst binge watching the entire series over a weekend. I would do anything to go back to the 80s when everything was simpler, brighter and enormous fun. Now the world is a much darker place so sadly.
I'm a '00s kid, but I felt so valid in the scene where Yorkie and Kelly traveled to 2000's San Junipero... I want my childhood back just thinking about it
These crazies have been out here all along, were just exposed to us them much more now. One of the only good things that ever came from social media.
altough I wasn`t alve during that time but living in former soviet union country I definetly don`t agree
On the mole- I took this to be part of her 'mirror' self. I have a mole on one of my cheeks, but when replicating it for character creators/avatars, I have to physically check which side it's on. Since you usually perceive yourself through what you see in the mirror, I'm wondering if her digital self wasn't just influenced by her mental image of her younger self as remembered in first person.
Just a thought, thanks for these videos!
that's what I was thinking too!
Thank you, it's pleasant to listen to someone who's genuinely in love with the soundtrack.
This episode is one of my favorites and definitely a breath of fresh air compared to the other BM episodes. The soundtrack and pop culture references were the cherry on top.
Even though this episode was the first episode to have a “happy ending” there is actually a slight dark side: By choosing to stay in San Junipero, Kelly would never be able to see her husband and daughter in the actual afterlife. If there WAS an actual afterlife. She chooses to stay because there is really no guarantee that there is actually life after death, where as San Junipero has a 100% guarantee to be living for eternity (if you want). If it DOES though, they would probably be a bit sad…….
Still, it’s always nice to have a positive ending once in a while in a show like Black Mirror.
@@wombat5274 have you ever been?
@@wombat5274 yes, that's exactly right. i know you must not like hearing this but there are some things you will just never know.
@@wombat5274 using your same logic you can’t say it DOESN’T exist, you’re claiming it to be false, as if you actually know, which you don’t, no living being does 🤡
Well if you follow the same logic that’s been discussed somewhere else in the comments, the “mind” that stays in San Junipero is a copy of Kelly rather than Kelly herself. So the real Kelly dies and goes into the afterlife, and a copy of her consciousness gets to go on and live the life that she couldn’t have lived during her actual youth.
As always, great job Bryce. I always learn something new - whether it’s a small detail I never noticed, or some kind of deep reveal or link. This is why I adore your Black Mirror breakdowns, your love for the show really translates in these uploads. That record is gorgeous too, I may just have to hunt down a copy for myself.
It’s also nice to see you growing more and more comfortable with being on screen... makes them that much more fun to watch. Thanks again for making these, IMO, they’re hands down the best Black Mirror fan-made content on TH-cam.
Agreed! Bryce really needs to make more content (if he's able). Really great stuff
I feel like the mole is better explained by her only ever seeing herself in a mirror.
I absolutely love your videos! The explanation, enthusiasm, background info and hidden details. Way to go man :) love to keep seeing more!
Thank you Krispy Corazon! This one was so much fun to make, can't wait to make more on the new season!
I think the older Kelly looks a lot like the younger Kelly. Imo
The mole on the SJ Kelly would be on the opposite side because that's what she has seen all her life when looking in the mirror.
This is a great theory!
Explanation of Kelly's Mole(According to me): I think, the system of afterlife gives user a choice of how they create their avatar. Kelly tried to create her avatar like she sees herself, that is looking in the mirror. Kelly must see herself in the mirror with the mole on her right side.
The score of this episode was my absolute favorite score ever, I listen to it every day while I study!
That's awesome, it really does have such an incredible vibe
Thanks so much for giving my favorite episode much love!
My favorite episode of all. The music was perfection
Keep up the Black Mirror content since we can’t get anything new…these are the next best thing !! 👍
Thank you Nate! I have a feeling we'll be getting some new episodes at the end of the year, they tend to announce it not that long before the release
I second this!
This episode was tragic. Kelly abandons her daughter and her husband of 49 years for a thot.
No way you just said that 😭
Daughter died and husband left.
well actually he died too and didn’t go to San Junipero bc their daughter died before it became a thing 💀 nobody ever left in that family, they just died
This was actually a really sad episode and most had failed to see this…Being stuck in the past means everything you are would not exist….You cannot change the mistakes that you made in the past and you cannot dwell on the treasured moments for too long. Eventually, you have to move on! Sure, I miss the early 2000s, it was the most pure time in my life. I was a teenager, full of life and fell I love for the first time. But without the the pain and troubled times that I’ve experienced, I would have never have met my woman and had my two beautiful children, which I could never imagine not having them in my life. Without them I was cold and had no issues with taking a life. I could see you die I front my eyes and I’d smile knowing I was the last person you saw and I took joy in that idea. My life turned dark in the 2010’s and took pleasure in hurting others. But when my woman came in my life, the darkness went away and when my first child was born I finally learnt what real love was. I would NEVER give that up just to go back to a time where it was “happy” or “nostalgic”. F that, all of my pain and suffering got me here and made me stronger than I ever imagined….living in the present is more greater because you experience new obstacles, new love, new happiness and most importantly, you feel alive because you’re living in the present which throws you head first into unexpected twists and turns! Life isn’t supposed to be perfect. The whole ohhh, but my life could have been different if I just….NO! If it was supposed to go that way then it would have gone that way, but it didn’t. Imagine being stuck in a simulation that locks you in your own thoughts?…somewhat of a fake reality. That’s really heart breaking. And if you disagree with me then do something about your life and make the change, the clocks ticking, stop wasting your time!
good explanation, this should pe pinged. explained better than the video above, kudos for your patience.
I think the ending is pretty straightforward and i'm surprised if anyone really needs it explained. I love this episode so much that I purchased it on Amazon so I can watch it again and again....usually once a year i'll put it on and relive this fantastic story. I think it's perfection from start to finish and deserves multiple viewings.
This is one of my favorites as well. Love the premise and wish it were a reality.
I love black mirror but I neeed this deep dives after! The amount of stuff you miss first time watching it is insane. I looove all the incredible details they put into it. Definitely have to watch it all over again. This episode actually left me feeling happy at the end where usually I’m in a weird state of thought provoking questions after watching. So it’s definitely a nice change. I was shocked when it ended and they actually let them be happy hahaha
Yes, San Junipero is the only Black Mirror episode with a happy ending. However, if Integrated Information Theory (IIT) is correct, it means that as soon as a person "passes over," they are just digital copies without inner subjective experience (as they run on a computer substrate without causal power, etc.). The original person dies (showing, e.g., Kelly's grave in the episode). Hence, San Junipero is a graveyard full of dead copies, not actual living people still alive, and they're temporarily visited by elderly people who are still alive in the real world. I don't know if the authors went that deep into contemporary consciousness research, but if so, then this would give the episode such a deep, dark meaning.
I love how you digress outside the analysis part. It's like you're telling your friend why this episode is the GOAT.
Agreed it's nice to get a happy ending here and there, especially this kind of story
Oh no no, this episode doesn’t have a happy ending. They are trapped in a computer housed in a building and forgotten about. They are in just one of thousands of sims in a giant warehouse. Everything ends.
@@analogsignal bruh, okey so if they weren't in a computer where would they be? at least this way you can be sure where you go after death
San junipero is the best example of unforced homosexuality. The story wasnt destroyed by forced lesbian
Underated
I am SO glad that Charlie Booker changed his mind about making this entry of Black Mirror from another bleak and nightmarish concept, and turned it into something truly beautiful and very special!
This episode is an example of the kind of impact that the advancement of technology should have on the world and enhancing the human experience and are existence for the better! This episode offers a glimpse of how technology can be utilized to create a world where true second chances exist. For those who were unable to live their lives, either due to disabilities or medical conditions that they were born with and severely limited their ability to live their lives to the fullest, or for those who suffer accidents that rob them of the lives they could have lived. It’s a world where the potential of a like that was shortened or hindered in the real world, is allowed to be fully realized in a beautiful paradise that offers the chance to live a more full life, right the wrongs of the past, and ultimately leave this life with no regrets or unfinished business. The option to be a part of San Junipero also frees humanity from the bondage of our mortality. Time no longer controls our life choices and experiences. The “afterlife” becomes on of limitless possibilities! This would allow people in the real world to live in the moment of their lives on earth without questioning whether their could have been different or better. This offers a piece of mind that your life on earth can be lived with no regrets, as San Junipero offers a safe place to live out the dreams and desires that we all wonder about.
This is the one episode of Black Mirror that makes me sob in the best way, bc it is filled with tears of happiness. It’s an absolutely beautiful and brilliant piece of storytelling! And it gives me hope that we can use the technology we create, to enhance our existence in the most meaningful and lovely of ways!
What a beautiful comment, I agree, this was peak BM for me.
You know when you have a delicious meal, but you’re still just a little hungry? For me, these guys make my black mirror viewings completely filling.
I’ve been waiting for you to do this one thank you!!
Hope you like it Danni K!
Given that Yorkie meets Kelly two years after her husband's death that would mean the RL world is in 2039 not 2037.
The fact that is somehow only 13-15 years away
12:03 A "Whoosh" sound is also what triggers the events of another show "The OA". A doctor heard a whoosh when one of his patients died and becomes obsessed with the afterlife. Though his methods for researching it are horrible violations of human rights.
4:16 Kelly's mole... Her San Junipero avatar, is how she remembers herself.
When we look in the mirror, our imperfections are reversed
I really love your videos. They are great. Thanks.
Great details , but no one got where the moon appears after the rain on in San junipero.
It refers to a discussion where Einstein questions , “ does the moon disappear if you don’t look at it “ is was and is a discussion between theoretical physicists. Basically the life we live is also constructed
Thank you Bryce! Really like your reviews!!!
Glad you like them!
one of very few modern video where sexual identity theme isn't forcefully bound with bubble gum to the plot and actually serves the story.
I know right? it was refreshing to see (apart from the colour palette as was pointed out in this video)
@@darkphoenix00001 honestly i've didn't noticed palette until pointed out in video, but i am not following all lgbt's new ideas and do my best to isolate from them :)
100% FACTS
isn't heterosexuality always forceful in the movies? like what is the reason for many characters to be hetero?
Love this episode. What a beautiful love story
Your videos make me happy. That's all.
“Who can even make sense of forever” that was said in another BM episode, don’t remember which one
I felt really weird watching this episode. It wasn't like any other Black Mirror experience, it was confusing and I was lost. If felt like some Movie my Grandparents would watch. It really feels like this for my friends too. I didn't like this episode, but I'm glad it's optimistic. Feels like it could be a Movie on its own that would my Grandparents watch not gonna lie.
👋 Nice breakdown of this episode. San Junipero has slowly become one ody fav episodes. Masterpiece!
Thanks Tranquillo!
San Junipero is my favourite episode
I need an episode with pan color scheme now 😤
(Loved this episode and love your series of explaining it!)
This episode of Black Mirror was such a gasp of air ❤
(Despite my anxiety of a blackout or a sudden system crash on all of TCKR, and I don't know if everyone felt this at the end, or just a few) 😅
Well the systems are in Cape Town and they have to rely on Eskom , South Africa, utility company.
I would live in San Junipero.
Which era? Or would you jump around?
@@SmokeyMcPotProductions I'd probably explore at first, but 60' is my favorite era, so there is where i'd hand out the most.
Same
@@societycrumbles far out!✌🏽
@@societycrumbles where u alive in the 60’s ? because other wise wouldn’t you have to have memories/experiences of that time to go there
My favorite noise album
If we ever get to similar technology, it absolutely would be amazing for people who are paralyzed, in a coma, suffering from terminal illness, etc. I wish we could give them something like that at least, do something actually useful to humanity with this crazy technology
7:24 I got Elizabeth Holmes PTSD at the sight of this 😔😵💫😵💫
Love these so much😻😻
I LOVE San Junipero…and THIS is the only thing I hope the elites take into consideration and inspiration, if they could make a device like this for us I think it would be beautiful. Everything else they can leave alone lol
Let's just hope said device isn't used in the way it is in the show Upload...
(Old comment, but anyways) I hope they not. Knowing them, they would probably ask for incredible amounts of money monthly (or yearly) to keep them there, much more if you stay after dying. Oh, you don't want your family to die permanently? Well, pay.
Saint Junipero is the patron saint of California. His motto "Always Forward" ties into the theme of the episode perfectly, both with the ending and in several ironic ways. SJ is bordered by the past and seemingly one small, inescapable, town and depending on your beliefs you can say the pair chose not to move forward.
LA is the City of Angels, SJ is the city of the dead. LA represents a fake reality/ purified escapism, SJ is both of those. The merits of such are obviously a big theme of the episode. San Junipero = Los Angeles.
Also the movie posters go from "Lost" to "Scream" to ""Born"". If you imagine "Scream" to mean death then it follows Yorkie and Kelly's journeys.
5:00 You *could* legally marry someone of the same sex in 1987 (at least in some states), it just wasn't recognized by the state.
Why this simulation is seen as something positive when all episodes consistently warns about the dangers of the technology. Why if Heaven on Earth transforms into a living Hell?
That's exactly what I'm thinking.
There are so many things that could go wrong with this.
@@ambeseate 2. It could turn into White Christmas at any moment and that is fucking teeeeeeeerifying. It would take 1 malevolent actor 10 mins at the controls to put ALL residents into a million years of hell.
4:50
My English teacher showed us this episode and asked us the same thing
We all said yes
This is my favorite BM episode. I was genuinely shocked to find out that this has a happy ending (of some sort) when almost every episode I watched before were not. I was already expecting something bad will happen and then it turned out to be a beautiful romance between these two characters.
For me it was confusing asf, it felt like a some Movie that my Grandparents would watch, it's so much nostalgic (I watched a lot of 90s films as a kid) but not good Nostalgia if you know..
Reversed mole is like being on video boom. Another clue to it not being the real world but digital.
6:41 that has to be the kid harry from white christmas being coached by the guy also doing the interrogation
I adore this episode so much. ❤❤ Love Yorkie :)
Seeing a happy ending for a queer couple warms my heart
Wow amazing episode...made me cry and laugh...i love it...Mackenzie is a natural Beauty
Definitely my favorite episode!
Both women are beautiful. 🤦♀️
@@ms.bubs4fun506 TRUE , but i favour tall women
Loved this episode so much it was like a dream. ☺️
I get it, this is a part 2 to your original video!
“You couldn’t legally get married to the opposite sex in the year 1987”? 🤣 You meant same sex right? @5mins
Haha!
(Btw you can type 4:58 and people can click to that exact moment in the video 👍)
Lmaoooooo it's funny hearing this guy trying to pronounce a Zulu name
Most of the music I like is from the 1980s and I really like Alexander O'Neal's song "Fake" (An interesting choice given that the story involves immersive VR technology).
This shook me to my core.
Right? Such a powerful episode
12:39 no they chose 1987 because they wanted to see who committed the bite of 87 🙄🙄🙄
1 The Quagmire Scene reminded me of JACOB’S LADDER (1990)
2 San Junipero is Easily TOP 5 Black Mirror episodes, it’s up there with White Christmas
"Their avatar doesn't have to look exactly like the younger them" me about to die so I can transition
Right 😂
Yorkie's clothes and neon colors in Tucker's made me think 'trans flag?' at first. Was curious if "Greg" being 'complicated' and 'you wouldnt like me IRL' would lead us to someone transfeminine who was too scared to transition in the 80s and most of their life. "Finding your authentic self" with Yorkie really hit me close.
The queer experience of being afraid of everyone looking resonates anyhow. Happy to have guessed wrong just as much as I'd have liked being right, it is a great story. While I was quick to pick up on timecapsule and afterlife themes I really enjoyed being puzzled how things would go together and where the episode would go, getting to know more about these characters at breakneck speed.
Tiny bit jelly that they get to try clothes that easily and customise their appearance and age, on the other hand it is just as emotionally labouring to figure out who is the real you, the amount of possibilities with this technologies can be paralizing and we are ultimately limited by our own brain and cultural understanding when it comes to self acceptance. The freedom seen here isn't merely eternal life, it is about accepting life and yourself, being ready for the rest of it.
Good luck with your own journey. Transition is hard, medical access, psychological labour, social tension. But we only get one body right now. I myself wouldn't have been happy as either binary gender, but understanding myself better now has made it much clearer what I want to change about my body for myself and how I am percieved and which things I can make peace with. Scary at times, but worth it. Bringing my body and identity closer together has made me the happiest I have ever been.
Damn.... TH-cam really doesn't recommend ur channel :'( ...i had to search ur channel to watch this :'(
Dang, that sucks to hear. I appreciate you going out of your way to find it, and thanks for letting me know, I've been hearing that a lot lately
Love love love san junipero
Yes! This is the best episode!
Being lesbian, this was my favorite Black Mirror episode. San Juniparo is something some people need..
Best
Episode
Ever
YUP
this episode was a good change from the last episode
I'm cackling every time you say Mbatha-Raw 😂 wonder how you'd say my name Ngatha 😂😂😂
I am missing the link of the "Black Mirror and Love, Death & Robots Explained" playlist. What's the connection there, please?
Didn’t u already do this episode? Or am I tripping?
same question
This is the analysis I felt this episode deserved
@@BryceEdwardBrown ah, gotcha
This episode confused me when I first watched it, and when I rewatched I just wasn’t interested. Definitely one of the episodes I skip
Honestly, I just look away at the intimate moments...Just can't on that note..
At 5:02 do you mean same sex?
i loved all of these but this one episode stuck with me. this and the masters of horrors episode Cigarette Burns.
I love San Junipero so fucking much
Ohmygod: I need that record!!!
This is the worst episode taking advantage of older people whose judgement isn’t sharp and making their consciousness part of a computer? Wtf?
Great Great Episode. Love the 80s
"You couldn't legally get married to the opposite sex in the year 1987"
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How did Heaven is a place on earth play "out of nowhere" if he was listening to a 1987 playlist given that song is also from '87?
I dont get why it seems like a suprise.
Wait the artwork was made by Billy Butcher? Like in Billy Butcher from The Boys?
I can just imagine Billy Butchers (from the boys) reaction to this. Something about lasses scissoring for eternity but as long as their happy who gives a fuck 😂😂
that vinil is definetely blue my dude
very awesome on the details. never seen this show. only herd of it through Rick and Morty cartoon as the main character insisted I get cultured so his jokes could land. now I see how I'm missing out on a lot. I wouldn't mind watching this as I otherwise wouldn't have.
ooo new black mirror video must click
Love this episode and the ending
it took a lesbian couple to have a happy ending
Details in black mirror are another thing
I just couldn't. I forced myself so much to watch this episode and something just ruined my experience and expections. Watched continuously to first 7 minutes and then started skipping till 20:00. I'm not against anything but as a Men I just rage quit at 20:00 of that episode and never watched it. Not a my type of thing. It feels awful to me.
"antiquated"
While Belinda Carlisle's "Heaven is a place on Earth" was okay I'd have liked to have seen her other 1987 hit "Circle in the Sand" ( th-cam.com/video/hgpXSoWBAVA/w-d-xo.html ) play too, another song I'd liked to have seen in the stories Whitney Houston's first big hit "How Will I Know? - th-cam.com/video/m3-hY-hlhBg/w-d-xo.html".
4:57 Heterosexual marriage has always been legal.....