Having owned the multistrada, S1000XR and R1250GSA, Ducatis multi competes with neither bike as far as performance, rider comfort and function goes. I’m extremely impressed with the GS and BMW motorcycles.
I just bought a R1250GS upgrading from a Versys 650. I feel like royalty riding on it, it's amazing. The agility of the GS has to be experienced to be believed, i don't know how they made such a big bike so maneuverable
It is for older bikes. People dont understand that older people got experience. And with experience comes wisdom. Old people want more things. That is why when someone says to me that is for old people, i take extra attention to the ``old stuff``.
The reason the GS isn’t standing up under braking is the telelever suspension. The rake and trail isn’t changing like the conventional forks do when compressing under braking. It’s not a function of the abs pro.
Hi Paul, welcome to the channel and I'm pleased to hear you enjoyed it. Thankyou for your feedback... it's nice to know viewers enjoy and learn something. Best wishes Carl
This is a very helpful technical and functional review! Carl - have you tried the BMW one piece rallye seat? Any thoughts on this accessory for the GS?
Hi Chuck, no I’ve not tried that seat but during the next review I hope to have a few seats to compare if bmw agrees to my request. Have you ordered a new 1300 ?
Great video ! Just one small comment - the stabile turns under breaks are not caused by Cornering ABS (this work only in case of emergency breaking and limit the slip of front wheel in corner), but mainly by Telelever suspension.
Yes thankyou the telelever does a great job. I have recently heard that BMW have removed it from the new R1300GS range.... which is going to be a big concern for us Best Wishes Car
Interesting review with a lot of information, thank You very much. I am thinking about swapping my 2011 R1200R for a 1250 and find myself validated in Your comment on the seating of the roadster and the GS. I say, don´t underestimate a old guy on a GS
Hello, yes indeed. I was completely wrong and had to admit it. I really liked the R1250R and if a could have gotten comfortable I would have swapped my multistrada. Let's see how the following weeks go with the GS. Carl
Amaizing reviews! You know so much more than bmw sales people. I'm trying to choose between GS and GSA and can not find good videos. You said it's completely different bikes. I think it would be very helpful video if you did comparison. Why are they so different? Sales people say GSA just have bigger gas tank, wider fairings and higher suspension. And it's better to buy GSA because it already has crash bars, luggage racks and better resale value. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Hello Nerijus and welcome to the channel. Bmw sell approximately equal volumes of GS and GSA models, as to resale value both are Extremely good and about equal but this may be slightly different from one country to the next. Yes your description of the difference is correct but the GSA is a much bigger bike and weighs more. 10kg does not sound much but if you add the adventure racks and crash bars it’s a bigger difference. My advice is to go and test ride both and see what you think 🤔. The GSA is definitely better for long distance touring due to the extra wind protection. But for me the standard GS was the right choice and on long tours it’s been brilliant. Perhaps in the summer bmw will give a GSA to test for a long weekend and if they do a video will follow. I’m pleased you enjoy the series many more episodes to come once the weather improves. Best wishes Carl
Dear Carl, I just (had to) rented a R1250GS in France. Because my XR broke down. The GS really suprised me, it is that good. I was surised how confident it makes yo feel in cornering. I only had it for 3 days, but was scraping the pegs already on the 2nd day. It's the telelver that makes all difference in my opinion. Super stable in corners. never had a bike that felt that planted into the corners. And ABS pro do works! I'm going into corners trailbraking and it's a peace of cake, just to add more breaking. It keeps it line perfect
Hi Antoine and welcome to the channel, yes it is quite amazing what a gs will do, the more time you spend on one the better it feels. They can be a lot of fun. I hope your XR is now repaired and working great again. Thank you for taking the time to leave your thoughts... Best wishes Carl
ABS and traction control are the bomb diggity... forgiving even if you come in a little hot and or get too aggressive coming out of it.. ;) I am in love with my 2023 GS Trophy.
Thank you Carl for your very informative videos and especially on the multistrada that I am currently studying. I come back to the GS that I was able to try, loaned by a dealer in 2021. I share with you my feedback. Very interesting test and I agree with you it is a fantastic motorcycle yes... except for one subject, the width of the handlebar grips! the palm of my left hand (accelerator) measures 11.5cm at its widest. The tip of my palm got stuck with the lug of the handle before the hand guard. Pffft. back to the dealership, verdict offered, " you have to cut the lug with a cutter...! and remove the hand guard...! I was really disappointed with the reaction of the dealer for a 25K€ machine and finally I abandoned this motorcycle project, because it wasn't confortable. I am not a lumberjack or a wrestler, I imagine that I am not the only one concerned. Since then I regularly put my left hand on the handlebars and I have never found this defect on other . Good continuation, so weit und so gut wie möglich. Herzlichen Danke und freundlichen Grüssen aus Elsass
Guten Morgen und vielen Dank für Ihre Kommentare und Ihr Feedback. Beide sind fantastische Motorräder. Ich wünsche Ihnen viel Spaß in diesem Sommer auf Ihrer Motorrad. Lg Carl aus Hessen
😂😂😂it’s funny your heated seat comment. I have a 4 month old gs and the salesman said when adding options to add a heated seat I will never look back I just laughed. I’ve done about 500 miles now and being totally honest I will never look back. Absolutely love the heated seat .
Hi CH1, yes it's one of those things or options I never thought about. But now.....I would never be without. It has extended my riding season at both ends (early spring and early winter) by about 5 weeks or more. Glad to hear you are enjoying the GS series and you are enjoying your bike. Best wishes Carl
Sorry Carl, thanks again for your help but I’m beginning to think that this job will be a bit involved and I’m not sure if I am competent to complete the task
Very well done Carl on your first impression review. Having been a fan of the the naked roadster since 1994, having owned the 850, 1200 and 1250 and having heard , as you did, all the hype surrounding this bike, I wanted to experience first hand what the GS was all about. Boy, I was amazed how flickable and comfortable this bike is despite itś size and weight. Great torque and a suspension that flattens out the bumps and you could ride this bike all day long. Needless to say, i am now the proud owner of a Triple Black 1250. Even as a small rider, this bike inspires confidence. And yes, I fit the cliché of a GS rider, being 64, modular helmet, etc, but that doesn’t lessen the fact that the GS is a superb, well rounded bike. There is a reason for its popularity, though it has its price. Looking forward to your next installment… greetings, Jim
Hi Jim, as the weeks go by, i am understanding more each ride, why the GS is such a good bike and its been really comfortable too. The Triple Black does look great... Carl
Hi on the 28th March 2022 I turned 60, I have owned all incarnations of the 1200-1250 GS since 2004 18 years done some 110k miles combined. I LOL when you said you thought it was for the older rider, but I know what you meant I didn't take offence LOL. The reason that you have a great ducati or Triumph etc. is BMW has set the bar so high everyone else has to produce a bike better than they would have just to get close then BMW nudge it a bit higher. But as they say there is a bike and price for everyone, looking forward to your ongoing review. Kind regards Robert from N.I.
Hi Robert, thank you for understanding my comment ... smile, I tried to remain balanced in the first episode, but it is a jolly good bike. More to come over the next few weeks. Carl
I Love it and am considering upgrading or (Renewing) my 2019 cos little has changed with the exception of the MF indicators which I think are "deadly" running lights are still indicating whichever way you look at it and I"m surprised they are even legal ....Accident waiting to happen so I will not be taking that option
The most popular adventure bike in the world and you only thought grandpas were buying them? Hahahaha. Great review! Congrats on the apology most people wouldn’t do that!
Hi Adam, well... I was wrong... lol. Hence I bought it. And currently really enjoying the GS on tour in Norway. Simply brilliant 👍 Even in the rain I'm warm and cosy. Yesterday we had 5° and rain over the mountains and still it was a lot of fun. Best wishes Carl
Hi Steve, yes finding the perfect seat or having one adjusted is very important and it's great to hear you have found the perfect solution. Best wishes Carl
Hello Mark, glad to hear your happy with your GS Trophy, and like you say its probably more capable than most of us need. Wishing you a great Spring when it arrives. Best wishes Carl
Hi. I really enjoy your videos thank you, and I wonder if you could help me, as I'm hoping to get a 1250 GS (or possibly the 1300), maybe next year and have watched tons of videos about it, but came across this one on TH-cam:- th-cam.com/video/kOznxdxPUK4/w-d-xo.html In it, he describes at the end of the video, one thing he absolutely hates about the GS, and that is the suspension! I was rather surprised about that and I understand what he is saying, based on riding it on bad roads, but I haven't heard anyone else say that about the GS, so I am wondering if you have any comments or explanation as to why he might feel so strongly about it, or if you can think of an explanation as to why that may be his experience? Could there be a way to adjust it that would work in that instance? Thank you for your time if you have any to answer this! 🤗
Hi Gillian, the GS and A are big heavy bikes and for 100% off road work there are better bikes with better suspension. But that’s not really what the GS is for. The GSA does have more suspension travel than the standard GS and would work better off-road. I don’t think the new 1300 is going to improve that much in terms of suspension. Personally I think the suspension is quite amazing considering the range of riders and roads it needs to work on. Personally never had a issue. Although I would choose to ride a bike with 100kg less off road anyway as for me 250kg is way to much off-road. And I’m a strong chap !!!! If you really need a 100% off-road bike then maybe the KTM 890R Adventure would be the better choice. Carl
@@justthewayitis Thanks Carl, but I don't want an off road bike at all. I want the bike for long distance touring. The guy in the video took his on ordinary roads in Ireland, which were a bit rough, and he said the suspension was pants/absolutely rubbish. When he had it in dynamic mode, it rattles his teeth and when he put it in road mode, it wallowed so much he felt sick (or words to that effect). This surprised me as no one I have seen videos from, had been anywhere near so forthright, and I wondered if maybe there was a problem with his particular bike! 🤗
Hi Gillian, I watched that video too, that’s not my experience with my bike. On those roads I would be 100% in Road Mode, not Dynamic also depending on the undulating surface I would use preload in either auto or max, probably max if I was carrying a passenger. But it’s difficult to guess without being there on that very road. Road mode can feel under damped on very undulating surfaces but again with out riding that particular road who really knows. Perhaps you might like to take the Tiger 1200 out and see if it’s really that much better than the GS. My reply isn’t really going to help answer your question, so maybe you can book a test ride on both bikes on the same day or weekend and test yourself….. and report back what you find. Kindest regards Carl
@@justthewayitis Thank you so much for your time and insight Carl! 😃 I definitely want a boxer engined bike and I used to have a Rockster and a GS. Although I like the Triumph, it's way too tall and I already have a Street Scrambler and 'need' a BMW again. I'm glad to hear your response to the video which makes sense to me and I really appreciate it. Many thanks again. 🤗 Kind regards, Gillian. 👍😃
Hi Gillian, don't forget to report back once you have a new bike, which ever brand / model you buy. There are a lot of really nice bikes out there not just from BMW. I would love to try the new moto guzzi mandello s which looks stunning and apparently rides and steers really well too. Happy shopping !!! Carl
I started with sport bikes, moved to sport touring, and now I have a '21 GSA. It is by far the best bike I've owned. It really is the Swiss army knife of motorcycles, it does everything from twisties to crunching long highway miles to getting groceries superbly.
Hi Corey welcome, yes I am slowly finding this to be true. it's been quite a surprise, and lots more information and thoughts from me to follow. Best wishes Carl.
And like you, I started on sports bikes back in the 90's on a GSXR1100L which was my first big bike. In our local bike club we have 3 x GSA... and they all love them and have upgraded from previous versions over the years. Carl
Interesting review. Thanks. Currently ride a 12RT (WC). I’ve ridden a number of GS’s (even a couple of Adventures) and they’ve never quite ticked the box for me. Had a 650GS alongside my old 11RT, but found I hardly rode it. Still really fancy a 12GS though. But cannot justify having two bikes and the wind protection of the RT is too good when the weather’s bad or very cold.
Hi Mark, hello and welcome... yes I can imagine you would miss the weather protection, but the 1250 GS is quite good and seated seat is a really big plus. Best wishes Carl
I bought a new '22 GS Adventure a few weeks ago after a year of looking. Absolutely love it so far, but it's early in the relationship lol. Great machine. 👍 Cheers, Greg
Solid review, nice that you both mention and display important information. I think the seller made a great choice by lending you this brand new bike, even though you did not buy that Roadster. Because he knows that with the extra good service he is providing by doing this, if you ever is looking to buy a new BMW bike, you will contact him/that dealership. And your experience with that dealership is so positive you 100% will recommend them to anyone you meet/talk to who are interested in buying a BMW. Last but not least, he knows that the chance you will fall in love with the GS is so high that there is almost no chance you will be disappointed after these weeks. Looking forward to seeing the rest of the Long term test.
Hello and Welcome, yes i think what you have said is probably correct. So far I am very impressed with the GS and with the 2 BMW dealerships i have been working with. I really did not think that the GS was this good, but i have several more weeks with the bike, and many more episodes to release. Best Wishes Carl
I always hated the GS1200 as i found it too tall for me (29" inside leg) BUT when they brought out the 1250 i was surprised on how easy it was to adjust the suspention via the TFT and rubber bungs uner the seat. I can get 3/4 of my foot firm;y on the ground. Lots of torque and light as a feather when u and running. Bought the Exclusive version in 2019 and never looed back, so far its been to Norway, Sweden and Sain (before the lock down) Off to Italy in July.
I’m 5’4” with 25” inside leg, currently riding a R1200RT. I’ve ridden GS and GSA and find that as long as there’s a little momentum when riding, the weight disappears. Having the weight on the engine down low matters a lot. I usually get difficulty on machines that have a ‘conventional’ upright engine as it shifts the moment of weight higher.
Great whole series. Mainly thanks for the help with setting the driving modes and ESA. I would also be interested in your attachment of the 360 camera. I didn't notice the attachment detail in any of the videos. I only see the RAM system but I don't see the mount on the moto. Is it on the handlebars or under the mirror? Please have a detail. Thank you
Hi Richard and welcome to the channel, 360 mounts via RAM mount attached to left handle bar and rear rack mount or on crash bars, sometimes I use to 360 extension pole for a different look. Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis Thank you for answer. Is it possible to see a detailed photo or video of the attachment somewhere? I can't figure out the best way to do it so that the camera shots are ok.
Later in the series I might make such a video covering this, but it’s a process of trail and error finding what works best for you and the type of footage you are aiming for. I’ll add your request to my list of videos to make 👍 Carl
hi Carl im a new subscriber having had my GSA R1250 for 6 month now (my 1st gs) you sound just like me surprised how good they are and think that they were for older rider 60+ im 49 and i love the GSA ..it has inspired me to start my own channel as well .. i look forward to the rest of you series .
Hi Andy, hello & welcome and thank you for subscribing. Yes I am enjoying my time with the GS and it has and continues to impress me. Which bike did you move from ? Good luck with your channel. Carl
@@justthewayitis I moved from a versys 1000 gen 1 ..the bmw is my 4 bike as iv only been riding 7 years but in that time I have toured 12 country's by bike .
Hi Andy, the Versys is a good bike at a very affordable price. 12 countries... now that is a lot of touring, and now with your GSA probably much more comfortable. Here in our local bike club we have 3 x GSA, and they love them. Glad you like the start to the new series, the next episode will be released on Thursday. Best wishes Carl
The new BMW 1250 GS is a brilliant bike. It's a quantum leap in handling and performance over my older BMW 1150 GS. I am about to head off for a 3-month tour around the USA and Canada, this should be the perfect bike for tackling the mountain roads in Colorado and British Columbia.
Carl … I am changing out my Bridgestone A41 tires that came with the bike , I got 8000 km out of them, the front is worn out, with still 30% left on the rear tire. I always replace both front and rear tires at same time. For this trip I will be going with a set of Metzler Roadtec01. I have never had them on a bike before, but everyone praises them for their longevity and grip on wet surfaces. I am one of those long distance riders who ride in the rain, so hopefully the Roadtec will live up to their reputation
Hi Brian, I have heard good things about the RoadTec 01 and the updated SE version, so I think your going to have a great time on your trip. Thankyou for replying Carl
Hi Brian, perhaps when you return from your trip, you could let me and others subscribers, know what you think about your new Roadtec 01's. And how they compare to your outgoing A41's. Carl
Currently on the market for a 1250 GSA myself. I ride a BMW s1000r, but my girlfriend wants to tag along on a few biketrips. Got a decent deal on a brand new GSA in Rallye colors, but scared to death of buying a new GSA now and then BMW will launch a 1300 GS/GSA for next year.. Kind of been in the cards that they will, no new colors this year, you can even get the 40th year edition color (renamed 719) this year. Smells fishy. So trying to find a used one thats either the blue HP model from 2019/2020 or Rallye from 21 with performance package and not that many kilometers on it. I know these machines are reliable, but I don't really want to buy a used bike with 30000-50000 km or more. I'd prefer to get one that's barely been used. But it's hard to come by.
Hello Nessaj, yes it is difficult to decide to wait for a new model... or buy now. My thoughts are to buy now, the new 1300GS will have some improvements like Radar and Blind Spot detection, and possibly 10HP more, but BMW will need to add more watercooling (Complete engine and cylinder heads) if they add more power ... which will add more weight. BMW are currently having lots of supply issues for parts... maybe the new bike will arrive at the end of the year.... maybe next year. I know a few people that changed from S1000R to the R1250R Sport and really enjoy the 1250 motor, the Adventure is a nice bike too, i hope to have that on test later this year. Carl
I'm 42 and just got that same bike a 2022 with gold wheels. I'm coming from a S1000r. I was ready for longer rides and comfort. That GS puts alot of smiles on my face. What a fantastic machine.
I've been a 1500 GoldWing rider for the past 23 years and just bought a new GS Anniversary Edition so I could ride some of the many dirt roads and BDRs in this part of the western U.S. It really is an easy bike to ride, although compared to my old '89 Wing it feels very tall. But you're absolutely right with the weight distribution thanks to that boxer engine......it makes it so easy to balance that it seems more like a 300lb bike vs a 500+ pounder.
Hi Jim, thank for leaving a comment, I have only been to the western side of the US once and it was a lovely trip, you're very lucky to have such beautiful open dirt roads that you can explore. Here in Europe things are a little restricted with regards to dirt roads, but we do have lots of curves and corners to play on. Today the Snow returned and it looks like we will have temperatures down to -9° C this week... Best wishes Carl
Thanks for this. I have committed to a 2022 1250GS Rallye with some optional 719 features and cannot wait for it to arrive. I’m trading in my 21 1250RS, which is also a fantastic bike, but the riding position is not ideal for longer trips and these GSs are just so iconic. Look forward to the rest of your series!
Hi Jesse and welcome to the channel and your comments. More episodes to come over the coming weeks, and I am sure your going to have fun on your new Rallye very soon. 👍 Carl
It arrived on Wednesday morning! Rode it to work, and been setting up my farkles as well as a new headlight protector. Mothers Day weekend here in US has held me back on a longer ride, but that will come. Noticeably taller ride height, looser steering, smaller turning radius, gentler ride, and more substantial road presence highlight the differences from the RS so far. Awaiting a touring windscreen.
Nice review. Looking forward to the series. How did you convince the dealer to lend you a brand new bike for several weeks? It seems like it would significantly devalue the bike.
Hi Kevin, thank you. Dealerships sometimes need to register bikes at different times of the year to meet sales targets. This particular bike was in the showroom for several months, and its not the triple black version which is the No1 colour, and it does not have the SOS safety button option, so I guess on this occasion I was extremely lucky. Carl
Very interested to watch this series and hear your thoughts, I have a 2012 multistrada base model only owned it 6 months approximately loving it so far 👍
Interesting video, clear and concise.Just picked up a new triple black low suspension version with gold wheels 2 days ago. So far, a happy bunny! Look forward to the rest of the series with interest. Cheers!
Hi Andrew, Triple Black with Gold wheels... that must look stunning.. I have never seen that combination anywhere, did you order it that way ? Thankyou for the compliment, I know I need to improve my videos with more "on the road" content and that will happen soon. I have now invested in an action camera and so far the footage looks great but I need to improve audio before I add these videos. Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis Hi Carl, yes, I put it into the BMW configurator,thought it looked good so ordered it. Good luck with your new camera, I'm now subscribed! Cheers, Andrew.
Hi Andrew, thank you. I have asked the following question in the comments section in my Multistrada series but no one replied, which is fine. So I will ask / offer it again. I think it might be nice to offer subscribers the opportunity to have a picture of themselves and bike or just the bike... shown on the channel at the end of an episode. It would be free of course... but I think viewers might like to see what owners have done to their bikes, which in your case is an unusual colour option. Maybe it's not for everyone but I thought it would be nice. What do you think? Carl
@@justthewayitis I think that's a great idea in principle but personally, I woudn't know where to start to do that......guess I'll have to find an 8 year old to show me how to do it............! 😄
You've got a very good way of getting information across, concise and clear. I'm looking forward to the next reviews. I'm secretly interested in a GS too.
Now the SX is a nice bike... I was once very interested in one, just after my CBRF. Is it KW green or black, or did you choose the beautiful red one... which sold out here in Germany very quickly. Carl
@@justthewayitis The Z is Emerald Blazed Green and the Scrambler is Khaki Green. Only by chance really, both bikes look good in those colours. Other colours are available 😄.
Having owned the multistrada, S1000XR and R1250GSA, Ducatis multi competes with neither bike as far as performance, rider comfort and function goes. I’m extremely impressed with the GS and BMW motorcycles.
Hello Macr88, thank you for sharing, yes the GS and GSA are great bikes. 👍
I just bought a R1250GS upgrading from a Versys 650. I feel like royalty riding on it, it's amazing. The agility of the GS has to be experienced to be believed, i don't know how they made such a big bike so maneuverable
Congratulations 🥂 and nice to hear you like your new motorbike. Merry Christmas
It is for older bikes. People dont understand that older people got experience. And with experience comes wisdom. Old people want more things. That is why when someone says to me that is for old people, i take extra attention to the ``old stuff``.
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The reason the GS isn’t standing up under braking is the telelever suspension. The rake and trail isn’t changing like the conventional forks do when compressing under braking. It’s not a function of the abs pro.
Hello Charlie, welcome and thank you for adding this vital part for us all to understand. Carl
Spot on! Glad I found your comment, Charlie! This is how our bikes work!
Great information for new bmw rider....learnt a lot from you.....brilliant..
Hi Paul, welcome to the channel and I'm pleased to hear you enjoyed it. Thankyou for your feedback... it's nice to know viewers enjoy and learn something. Best wishes Carl
This is a very helpful technical and functional review! Carl - have you tried the BMW one piece rallye seat? Any thoughts on this accessory for the GS?
Hi Chuck, no I’ve not tried that seat but during the next review I hope to have a few seats to compare if bmw agrees to my request. Have you ordered a new 1300 ?
@@justthewayitis Recently purchased a lightly used 2017 R1200GS!!!
Great video ! Just one small comment - the stabile turns under breaks are not caused by Cornering ABS (this work only in case of emergency breaking and limit the slip of front wheel in corner), but mainly by Telelever suspension.
Yes thankyou the telelever does a great job. I have recently heard that BMW have removed it from the new R1300GS range.... which is going to be a big concern for us
Best Wishes
Car
Interesting review with a lot of information, thank You very much. I am thinking about swapping my 2011 R1200R for a 1250 and find myself validated in Your comment on the seating of the roadster and the GS. I say, don´t underestimate a old guy on a GS
Hello, yes indeed. I was completely wrong and had to admit it. I really liked the R1250R and if a could have gotten comfortable I would have swapped my multistrada. Let's see how the following weeks go with the GS. Carl
Just had a recall letter for gearbox software upgrade..
Hi Paul, that’s great news, many of them have now been done.
Mines been done and I personally can’t detect any difference…
Best wishes Carl
What brand of comfort seats are those? BMW? Looking for a replacement for my stock 2022 1250 gsa seats
Hi Joseph, the seats are actually the BMW comfort option seats with heating... and they are great, really happy with them. Carl
@@justthewayitis Thanks for the reply, I’ve been enjoying your thorough videos on the BMW. Well done! I’m buying those front and rear lights for sure.
Hi Joseph, thank you for the nice comment, yes the new lights are a big improvement. 👍
Amaizing reviews! You know so much more than bmw sales people. I'm trying to choose between GS and GSA and can not find good videos. You said it's completely different bikes. I think it would be very helpful video if you did comparison. Why are they so different? Sales people say GSA just have bigger gas tank, wider fairings and higher suspension. And it's better to buy GSA because it already has crash bars, luggage racks and better resale value. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Hello Nerijus and welcome to the channel. Bmw sell approximately equal volumes of GS and GSA models, as to resale value both are Extremely good and about equal but this may be slightly different from one country to the next. Yes your description of the difference is correct but the GSA is a much bigger bike and weighs more. 10kg does not sound much but if you add the adventure racks and crash bars it’s a bigger difference.
My advice is to go and test ride both and see what you think 🤔.
The GSA is definitely better for long distance touring due to the extra wind protection. But for me the standard GS was the right choice and on long tours it’s been brilliant.
Perhaps in the summer bmw will give a GSA to test for a long weekend and if they do a video will follow.
I’m pleased you enjoy the series many more episodes to come once the weather improves.
Best wishes Carl
Dear Carl, I just (had to) rented a R1250GS in France. Because my XR broke down. The GS really suprised me, it is that good. I was surised how confident it makes yo feel in cornering. I only had it for 3 days, but was scraping the pegs already on the 2nd day. It's the telelver that makes all difference in my opinion. Super stable in corners. never had a bike that felt that planted into the corners. And ABS pro do works! I'm going into corners trailbraking and it's a peace of cake, just to add more breaking. It keeps it line perfect
Hi Antoine and welcome to the channel, yes it is quite amazing what a gs will do, the more time you spend on one the better it feels. They can be a lot of fun. I hope your XR is now repaired and working great again. Thank you for taking the time to leave your thoughts... Best wishes Carl
ABS and traction control are the bomb diggity... forgiving even if you come in a little hot and or get too aggressive coming out of it.. ;) I am in love with my 2023 GS Trophy.
Yes Mark they work very well indeed. A great system. 👍Carl
Thank you Carl for your very informative videos and especially on the multistrada that I am currently studying.
I come back to the GS that I was able to try, loaned by a dealer in 2021.
I share with you my feedback.
Very interesting test and I agree with you it is a fantastic motorcycle yes... except for one subject, the width of the handlebar grips! the palm of my left hand (accelerator) measures 11.5cm at its widest. The tip of my palm got stuck with the lug of the handle before the hand guard. Pffft. back to the dealership, verdict offered, " you have to cut the lug with a cutter...! and remove the hand guard...!
I was really disappointed with the reaction of the dealer for a 25K€ machine and finally I abandoned this motorcycle project, because it wasn't confortable.
I am not a lumberjack or a wrestler, I imagine that I am not the only one concerned.
Since then I regularly put my left hand on the handlebars and I have never found this defect on other .
Good continuation, so weit und so gut wie möglich.
Herzlichen Danke und freundlichen Grüssen aus Elsass
Guten Morgen und vielen Dank für Ihre Kommentare und Ihr Feedback. Beide sind fantastische Motorräder. Ich wünsche Ihnen viel Spaß in diesem Sommer auf Ihrer Motorrad.
Lg Carl aus Hessen
😂😂😂it’s funny your heated seat comment. I have a 4 month old gs and the salesman said when adding options to add a heated seat I will never look back I just laughed. I’ve done about 500 miles now and being totally honest I will never look back. Absolutely love the heated seat .
Hi CH1, yes it's one of those things or options I never thought about. But now.....I would never be without. It has extended my riding season at both ends (early spring and early winter) by about 5 weeks or more. Glad to hear you are enjoying the GS series and you are enjoying your bike.
Best wishes Carl
Heat is not good for the balls
LOL 😀
Sorry Carl, thanks again for your help but I’m beginning to think that this job will be a bit involved and I’m not sure if I am competent to complete the task
Hi Paul I'll have a how too video at some point this month that should help a lot of subscribers 😊👍
Very well done Carl on your first impression review. Having been a fan of the the naked roadster since 1994, having owned the 850, 1200 and 1250 and having heard , as you did, all the hype surrounding this bike, I wanted to experience first hand what the GS was all about. Boy, I was amazed how flickable and comfortable this bike is despite itś size and weight. Great torque and a suspension that flattens out the bumps and you could ride this bike all day long. Needless to say, i am now the proud owner of a Triple Black 1250. Even as a small rider, this bike inspires confidence. And yes, I fit the cliché of a GS rider, being 64, modular helmet, etc, but that doesn’t lessen the fact that the GS is a superb, well rounded bike. There is a reason for its popularity, though it has its price. Looking forward to your next installment… greetings, Jim
Hi Jim, as the weeks go by, i am understanding more each ride, why the GS is such a good bike and its been really comfortable too. The Triple Black does look great... Carl
Hi on the 28th March 2022 I turned 60, I have owned all incarnations of the 1200-1250 GS since 2004 18 years done some 110k miles combined. I LOL when you said you thought it was for the older rider, but I know what you meant I didn't take offence LOL. The reason that you have a great ducati or Triumph etc. is BMW has set the bar so high everyone else has to produce a bike better than they would have just to get close then BMW nudge it a bit higher. But as they say there is a bike and price for everyone, looking forward to your ongoing review. Kind regards Robert from N.I.
Hi Robert, thank you for understanding my comment ... smile, I tried to remain balanced in the first episode, but it is a jolly good bike. More to come over the next few weeks. Carl
I Love it and am considering upgrading or (Renewing) my 2019 cos little has changed with the exception
of the MF indicators which I think are "deadly" running lights are still indicating whichever way you look at it and I"m surprised they are even legal ....Accident waiting to happen so I will not be taking that option
Hello and welcome, glad to hear your enjoying your GS. Good luck with your upgrade... smile. Carl
Kind of..makes sense: Following the ‘break-in’ guidelines, ESPECIALLY IF you want them to honor any warranty issues!
Yes... indeed.
The most popular adventure bike in the world and you only thought grandpas were buying them? Hahahaha. Great review! Congrats on the apology most people wouldn’t do that!
Hi Adam, well... I was wrong... lol. Hence I bought it. And currently really enjoying the GS on tour in Norway. Simply brilliant 👍
Even in the rain I'm warm and cosy. Yesterday we had 5° and rain over the mountains and still it was a lot of fun.
Best wishes Carl
Quite funny - I once thought heated grips are for whimps - man we are old 😂. Agree totally, never a bike without heated seats and grips again 👍
Yes absolutely 👍
But it definitely extends the riding season and my Wife loves the rear heated seat 😇
Had a custom seat built on my 2021 GSA Rallye with a gel insert...heaven
Hi Steve, yes finding the perfect seat or having one adjusted is very important and it's great to hear you have found the perfect solution. Best wishes Carl
I am quite pleased with my 2023 GS Trophy. It more bike than I will ever need but not more than I wanted. ;)
Hello Mark, glad to hear your happy with your GS Trophy, and like you say its probably more capable than most of us need. Wishing you a great Spring when it arrives.
Best wishes Carl
Hi. I really enjoy your videos thank you, and I wonder if you could help me, as I'm hoping to get a 1250 GS (or possibly the 1300), maybe next year and have watched tons of videos about it, but came across this one on TH-cam:-
th-cam.com/video/kOznxdxPUK4/w-d-xo.html
In it, he describes at the end of the video, one thing he absolutely hates about the GS, and that is the suspension!
I was rather surprised about that and I understand what he is saying, based on riding it on bad roads, but I haven't heard anyone else say that about the GS, so I am wondering if you have any comments or explanation as to why he might feel so strongly about it, or if you can think of an explanation as to why that may be his experience?
Could there be a way to adjust it that would work in that instance?
Thank you for your time if you have any to answer this! 🤗
Hi Gillian, the GS and A are big heavy bikes and for 100% off road work there are better bikes with better suspension. But that’s not really what the GS is for. The GSA does have more suspension travel than the standard GS and would work better off-road. I don’t think the new 1300 is going to improve that much in terms of suspension.
Personally I think the suspension is quite amazing considering the range of riders and roads it needs to work on. Personally never had a issue.
Although I would choose to ride a bike with 100kg less off road anyway as for me 250kg is way to much off-road. And I’m a strong chap !!!!
If you really need a 100% off-road bike then maybe the KTM 890R Adventure would be the better choice.
Carl
@@justthewayitis Thanks Carl, but I don't want an off road bike at all. I want the bike for long distance touring. The guy in the video took his on ordinary roads in Ireland, which were a bit rough, and he said the suspension was pants/absolutely rubbish. When he had it in dynamic mode, it rattles his teeth and when he put it in road mode, it wallowed so much he felt sick (or words to that effect). This surprised me as no one I have seen videos from, had been anywhere near so forthright, and I wondered if maybe there was a problem with his particular bike! 🤗
Hi Gillian, I watched that video too, that’s not my experience with my bike. On those roads I would be 100% in Road Mode, not Dynamic also depending on the undulating surface I would use preload in either auto or max, probably max if I was carrying a passenger. But it’s difficult to guess without being there on that very road.
Road mode can feel under damped on very undulating surfaces but again with out riding that particular road who really knows.
Perhaps you might like to take the Tiger 1200 out and see if it’s really that much better than the GS.
My reply isn’t really going to help answer your question, so maybe you can book a test ride on both bikes on the same day or weekend and test yourself….. and report back what you find.
Kindest regards Carl
@@justthewayitis Thank you so much for your time and insight Carl! 😃
I definitely want a boxer engined bike and I used to have a Rockster and a GS.
Although I like the Triumph, it's way too tall and I already have a Street Scrambler and 'need' a BMW again.
I'm glad to hear your response to the video which makes sense to me and I really appreciate it.
Many thanks again. 🤗
Kind regards, Gillian. 👍😃
Hi Gillian, don't forget to report back once you have a new bike, which ever brand / model you buy. There are a lot of really nice bikes out there not just from BMW. I would love to try the new moto guzzi mandello s which looks stunning and apparently rides and steers really well too.
Happy shopping !!!
Carl
I started with sport bikes, moved to sport touring, and now I have a '21 GSA. It is by far the best bike I've owned. It really is the Swiss army knife of motorcycles, it does everything from twisties to crunching long highway miles to getting groceries superbly.
Hi Corey welcome, yes I am slowly finding this to be true. it's been quite a surprise, and lots more information and thoughts from me to follow. Best wishes Carl.
And like you, I started on sports bikes back in the 90's on a GSXR1100L which was my first big bike. In our local bike club we have 3 x GSA... and they all love them and have upgraded from previous versions over the years. Carl
Interesting review. Thanks. Currently ride a 12RT (WC). I’ve ridden a number of GS’s (even a couple of Adventures) and they’ve never quite ticked the box for me. Had a 650GS alongside my old 11RT, but found I hardly rode it. Still really fancy a 12GS though. But cannot justify having two bikes and the wind protection of the RT is too good when the weather’s bad or very cold.
Hi Mark, hello and welcome... yes I can imagine you would miss the weather protection, but the 1250 GS is quite good and seated seat is a really big plus. Best wishes Carl
What part of Germany is your accent from? Sloughburg? 🤔😉😛
Eastendburg...👍
I bought a new '22 GS Adventure a few weeks ago after a year of looking. Absolutely love it so far, but it's early in the relationship lol. Great machine. 👍 Cheers, Greg
Hi Greg, welcome and enjoy the summer on your new GSA.
Solid review, nice that you both mention and display important information. I think the seller made a great choice by lending you this brand new bike, even though you did not buy that Roadster. Because he knows that with the extra good service he is providing by doing this, if you ever is looking to buy a new BMW bike, you will contact him/that dealership. And your experience with that dealership is so positive you 100% will recommend them to anyone you meet/talk to who are interested in buying a BMW. Last but not least, he knows that the chance you will fall in love with the GS is so high that there is almost no chance you will be disappointed after these weeks. Looking forward to seeing the rest of the Long term test.
Hello and Welcome, yes i think what you have said is probably correct. So far I am very impressed with the GS and with the 2 BMW dealerships i have been working with. I really did not think that the GS was this good, but i have several more weeks with the bike, and many more episodes to release. Best Wishes Carl
Can't wait for this whole series and to hear your thoughts on the GS!
Hi Amir, thank you. Lots more to come although we have Snow here again in Germany so no riding this week. Best wishes Carl
Now I’m sold! Looking forward to get my 1st GS1250A…
Hi MotoYak, I'm sure you will have a lot of fun. Carl
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I always hated the GS1200 as i found it too tall for me (29" inside leg) BUT when they brought out the 1250 i was surprised on how easy it was to adjust the suspention via the TFT and rubber bungs uner the seat. I can get 3/4 of my foot firm;y on the ground. Lots of torque and light as a feather when u and running. Bought the Exclusive version in 2019 and never looed back, so far its been to Norway, Sweden and Sain (before the lock down) Off to Italy in July.
I will be going the opposite way in July, hopefully up to Norway. But enjoy your adventure in Italy 👍Carl
I’m 5’4” with 25” inside leg, currently riding a R1200RT. I’ve ridden GS and GSA and find that as long as there’s a little momentum when riding, the weight disappears. Having the weight on the engine down low matters a lot. I usually get difficulty on machines that have a ‘conventional’ upright engine as it shifts the moment of weight higher.
Great whole series. Mainly thanks for the help with setting the driving modes and ESA.
I would also be interested in your attachment of the 360 camera. I didn't notice the attachment detail in any of the videos. I only see the RAM system but I don't see the mount on the moto. Is it on the handlebars or under the mirror? Please have a detail.
Thank you
Hi Richard and welcome to the channel, 360 mounts via RAM mount attached to left handle bar and rear rack mount or on crash bars, sometimes I use to 360 extension pole for a different look. Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis Thank you for answer. Is it possible to see a detailed photo or video of the attachment somewhere? I can't figure out the best way to do it so that the camera shots are ok.
Later in the series I might make such a video covering this, but it’s a process of trail and error finding what works best for you and the type of footage you are aiming for. I’ll add your request to my list of videos to make 👍
Carl
hi Carl im a new subscriber having had my GSA R1250 for 6 month now (my 1st gs) you sound just like me surprised how good they are and think that they were for older rider 60+ im 49 and i love the GSA ..it has inspired me to start my own channel as well .. i look forward to the rest of you series .
Hi Andy, hello & welcome and thank you for subscribing. Yes I am enjoying my time with the GS and it has and continues to impress me. Which bike did you move from ?
Good luck with your channel. Carl
@@justthewayitis I moved from a versys 1000 gen 1 ..the bmw is my 4 bike as iv only been riding 7 years but in that time I have toured 12 country's by bike .
Hi Andy, the Versys is a good bike at a very affordable price. 12 countries... now that is a lot of touring, and now with your GSA probably much more comfortable. Here in our local bike club we have 3 x GSA, and they love them. Glad you like the start to the new series, the next episode will be released on Thursday. Best wishes Carl
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Hello and welcome Chatree...
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The new BMW 1250 GS is a brilliant bike. It's a quantum leap in handling and performance over my older BMW 1150 GS. I am about to head off for a 3-month tour around the USA and Canada, this should be the perfect bike for tackling the mountain roads in Colorado and British Columbia.
Hi Brian, welcome and thank you for sharing, we all wish you a great tour on your 1250, which tyres are you going to use ?
Carl
Carl … I am changing out my Bridgestone A41 tires that came with the bike , I got 8000 km out of them, the front is worn out, with still 30% left on the rear tire. I always replace both front and rear tires at same time. For this trip I will be going with a set of Metzler Roadtec01. I have never had them on a bike before, but everyone praises them for their longevity and grip on wet surfaces. I am one of those long distance riders who ride in the rain, so hopefully the Roadtec will live up to their reputation
Hi Brian, I have heard good things about the RoadTec 01 and the updated SE version, so I think your going to have a great time on your trip. Thankyou for replying Carl
Hi Brian, perhaps when you return from your trip, you could let me and others subscribers, know what you think about your new Roadtec 01's. And how they compare to your outgoing A41's. Carl
Currently on the market for a 1250 GSA myself. I ride a BMW s1000r, but my girlfriend wants to tag along on a few biketrips. Got a decent deal on a brand new GSA in Rallye colors, but scared to death of buying a new GSA now and then BMW will launch a 1300 GS/GSA for next year.. Kind of been in the cards that they will, no new colors this year, you can even get the 40th year edition color (renamed 719) this year. Smells fishy. So trying to find a used one thats either the blue HP model from 2019/2020 or Rallye from 21 with performance package and not that many kilometers on it. I know these machines are reliable, but I don't really want to buy a used bike with 30000-50000 km or more. I'd prefer to get one that's barely been used. But it's hard to come by.
Hello Nessaj, yes it is difficult to decide to wait for a new model... or buy now. My thoughts are to buy now, the new 1300GS will have some improvements like Radar and Blind Spot detection, and possibly 10HP more, but BMW will need to add more watercooling (Complete engine and cylinder heads) if they add more power ... which will add more weight. BMW are currently having lots of supply issues for parts... maybe the new bike will arrive at the end of the year.... maybe next year. I know a few people that changed from S1000R to the R1250R Sport and really enjoy the 1250 motor, the Adventure is a nice bike too, i hope to have that on test later this year. Carl
I'm 42 and just got that same bike a 2022 with gold wheels. I'm coming from a S1000r. I was ready for longer rides and comfort. That GS puts alot of smiles on my face. What a fantastic machine.
Hello Corey and welcome. I hope you enjoy the series. Carl
Oh ow..... bye bye Multistrada.... 🙄.
I've been a 1500 GoldWing rider for the past 23 years and just bought a new GS Anniversary Edition so I could ride some of the many dirt roads and BDRs in this part of the western U.S. It really is an easy bike to ride, although compared to my old '89 Wing it feels very tall. But you're absolutely right with the weight distribution thanks to that boxer engine......it makes it so easy to balance that it seems more like a 300lb bike vs a 500+ pounder.
Hi Jim, thank for leaving a comment, I have only been to the western side of the US once and it was a lovely trip, you're very lucky to have such beautiful open dirt roads that you can explore. Here in Europe things are a little restricted with regards to dirt roads, but we do have lots of curves and corners to play on. Today the Snow returned and it looks like we will have temperatures down to -9° C this week... Best wishes Carl
Thanks for this. I have committed to a 2022 1250GS Rallye with some optional 719 features and cannot wait for it to arrive. I’m trading in my 21 1250RS, which is also a fantastic bike, but the riding position is not ideal for longer trips and these GSs are just so iconic. Look forward to the rest of your series!
Hi Jesse and welcome to the channel and your comments. More episodes to come over the coming weeks, and I am sure your going to have fun on your new Rallye very soon. 👍 Carl
Hi Jesse, has your GS Rallye arrived yet ? Or do you have to wait a few more weeks.
It arrived on Wednesday morning! Rode it to work, and been setting up my farkles as well as a new headlight protector. Mothers Day weekend here in US has held me back on a longer ride, but that will come. Noticeably taller ride height, looser steering, smaller turning radius, gentler ride, and more substantial road presence highlight the differences from the RS so far. Awaiting a touring windscreen.
Sounds like your already having lots of fun... smile.
Mine arrived 2 weeks ago, already at 1200km. 2022 R1250gs Rallye, with every available option and package . Plus a touring windscreen.
Nice review. Looking forward to the series. How did you convince the dealer to lend you a brand new bike for several weeks? It seems like it would significantly devalue the bike.
Hi Kevin, thank you. Dealerships sometimes need to register bikes at different times of the year to meet sales targets. This particular bike was in the showroom for several months, and its not the triple black version which is the No1 colour, and it does not have the SOS safety button option, so I guess on this occasion I was extremely lucky. Carl
Very interested to watch this series and hear your thoughts, I have a 2012 multistrada base model only owned it 6 months approximately loving it so far 👍
Hi and welcome, they are beautiful bikes. Glad to hear your enjoying your Muttly. Carl
Just found your channel 🏍️👌👍
Welcome GeeCee. Carl
Interesting video, clear and concise.Just picked up a new triple black low suspension version with gold wheels 2 days ago. So far, a happy bunny! Look forward to the rest of the series with interest. Cheers!
Hi Andrew, Triple Black with Gold wheels... that must look stunning.. I have never seen that combination anywhere, did you order it that way ?
Thankyou for the compliment, I know I need to improve my videos with more "on the road" content and that will happen soon. I have now invested in an action camera and so far the footage looks great but I need to improve audio before I add these videos. Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis Hi Carl, yes, I put it into the BMW configurator,thought it looked good so ordered it. Good luck with your new camera, I'm now subscribed! Cheers, Andrew.
Hi Andrew, thank you.
I have asked the following question in the comments section in my Multistrada series but no one replied, which is fine. So I will ask / offer it again. I think it might be nice to offer subscribers the opportunity to have a picture of themselves and bike or just the bike... shown on the channel at the end of an episode. It would be free of course... but I think viewers might like to see what owners have done to their bikes, which in your case is an unusual colour option. Maybe it's not for everyone but I thought it would be nice. What do you think?
Carl
@@justthewayitis I think that's a great idea in principle but personally, I woudn't know where to start to do that......guess I'll have to find an 8 year old to show me how to do it............! 😄
I have the same bike but with gold wheels. What a beautiful machine it is.
Hi Corey.... yes I agree, she does look lovely. How have your front brakes been in terms of any leaking fluid?
@@justthewayitis I have had no problems at all.
You've got a very good way of getting information across, concise and clear. I'm looking forward to the next reviews. I'm secretly interested in a GS too.
Hi Tigerick, thank you for the compliment. So, I'm intrigued...what bike do you currently have ? Carl
@@justthewayitis Kawasaki Z1000SX 2018 and a Triumph Street Scrambler 2019.
Now the SX is a nice bike... I was once very interested in one, just after my CBRF. Is it KW green or black, or did you choose the beautiful red one... which sold out here in Germany very quickly. Carl
The Street scrambler is also very nice. At some point I would like to test some Triumphs but my nearest dealership is a good 2 hours away.
@@justthewayitis The Z is Emerald Blazed Green and the Scrambler is Khaki Green. Only by chance really, both bikes look good in those colours. Other colours are available 😄.