White Stripes Elephant Which is BEST? - UHQR/OG/MONO/20th
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This is a detailed sound review or shoot out on 4 pressings of the White Stripes Elephant. The OG released in 2003, the new 20th anniversary repress from Thirdman Records, the Mono XX Vault #53, and the brand new UHQR 45 RPM edition from @acousticsoundsks I also have Felipe from the @JazzBums join me - since he was so kind to send me his OG copy to compare - since he is a huge fan of the White Stripes - I wanted to bring him in on and talk about the music and the pressings.
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Mono is a mix not a fold down
Someone else pointed that out too. My bad.
Thanks for pointing that out
You tricked me when I saw using the UHQR as a frisbee almost, I was going to stop watching, later I understood the trick. Great way in reviewing these albums. I have the UHQR and one reissue in black from 2022, no sibilance on mine, but for sure the UHQR is the winner for me. Having Felipe on your show is an excellent idea, I was really impressed w/ his depth of knowledge w/ the White Stripes, plus his kindness, we need more people like him. Very good video, thanks for sharing!
Felipe is great! We talked for a lot longer maybe I’ll post the uncut interview too.
Fun video, thanks! Agree with Felipe on James Brown!
My choice for UHQR would be Soundgarden “Superunknown”. None of the “affordable” reissues on vinyl sound that great in fidelity.
A couple of points:
IMO, volume level matching with a decibel meter is paramount to A/B’ing records in comparison tests.
Also, if they went back to the multi’s then the mono Elephant is a true mono not a fold down.
Thanks again for the video!
Thanks for the insight on the mono.
Yoy just made my heart skip a beat!! That's the perfect choice🤟🏻
Super entertaining video! Felipe is so knowledgable. Thank you for sharing!
Great discussion! The UHQR is amazing. ♥️ It's great to see Filipe too. 😃
That's so funny - Im literally watching your interview with Rachel right now! Also very good discussion!
You're not wrong about the sibilance. I bought the 20 year 33rpm version that is clear w/ Red & Black Smoke. I also had to clean it, my first listen on side a was very poppy. After a clean on the Spin Clean it sounds so much better. That sibilance is strong.
🤯 spinning that UHQR at the beginning, made sense at the end though lol
Great take. I’m loving the UHQR. Hoping I can keep it flawless and enjoy it forever.
seeing the knife go across the record killed me. but overall i bought the 20th anniversary and got the uhqr as a gift and i wholeheartedly agree with everything said here. i don't have as high end of a system as you but i can hear the difference between the two. the minute i played the 20 anniversary and heard the sibilance on sna i got so disconnected immediately and i couldn't not hear it. the uhqr is definitely a joy to hear and hold! i think it's awesome that they were able to cut the same songs on the same sides as the 33 record at 45. i think that's so cool and unique. great video man!
Ha! Called them first before I did that! This is a great UHQR it’s turned me onto the band more.
@@PiecesofVinylLMAO the way i wouldve so hung it up or done something to it if i was in the same boat! And same! I never gave the white stripes a listen but I actually came across your video before ever hearing about it which definitely helped turn me to the white stripes and UHQR/Analogue Productions/Acoustic Sounds/Chad K.! so thank you for that as well!
I totally agree with your review. I came to the same conclusion. I love my 2003 OG but the UHQR is awesome. I've been a fan of the The White Strips since they were a bar band here in Detroit.
Would love to have seen them in a bar!
Mate stop throwing ur records around it’s not cool
Nice collab fellas. Felipe is super generous + helpful.
Thanks Chance, we had a lot of fun!
I have a more recent Third Man reissue of the album. I am a big fan of Jack so I am considering getting the 20th anniversary edition as well. I'd love that UHQR one but Idk if I could justify it.
It’s a little pricey they will be around for a little while so you can stew on it longer😜
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Excellent video
Awesome review, great interview! 👍👍
Felipe is the man!
You mentioned a good pressing of a James Brown record. Try Hot Pants. It was mastered by Robert Ludwig and sounds great !
I’m enjoying your videos!
Thanks for watching!
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I disagree about the one pop, that's not enough to send back. I clean every record but sending a record back for 1 pop is crazy
If you're paying top $ for something that's advertised as Premium cream of the crop then it's reasonable to expect a flawless product
@@crazyprayingmantis5596yes but vinyl by nature is not a flawless format. It is far from perfect everything about how it works is flawed.
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I have plenty of records that are flawless, completely silent background and they weren't advertised as premium audiophile pressings and they didn't cost a fortune, if I'm paying the price of these UHQRs I expect them to be totally silent.
We get the standard that we accept in life
Also Strokes VMP is not AAA. It’s a digital recording. I love them though!
You are correct.
V2 (imo) have never made great sounding records, in 2003 or in 2023. You should have gotten a hold of a XL Recordings OG from the UK, not the US version.
Hey the sound hes trying to describe is ‘Low Fi” I have just a rerelease of Elephant on black vinyl it says third man on it sounds great to me and my whole hifi is from the 1950’s. Actually maybe thats why coz doesn’t White like tubes and analogue? Good video.
I do have a tube amp as well. Nothing special but sounds nice. Thanks for watching!
Mono cartridge? , but really good review.
I have a lot of other mono records that sound great with my cartridge.
Yeah I thought that but he must know right?
I have a mono cart, so all considerations are valid
$6 for my CD is probably the best bang for buck, its a pretty well recorded album
Is it confirmed that the original (UK or US) were even cut all analog? Or is that being assumed. Jack didn’t really start getting into producing AAA vinyl until the post-2010 reissues IIRC. He’s even made statements that he couldn’t hear the difference, even after SH/KG cuts of Icky 😮. I think people romanticize many modern OGs that are cut from digital files. Just curious…I’ve been trying to find information myself as a curious fan.
I think the video that debuted the announcement showed the original master tape (from acousticounds) so I’m pretty sure it was recorded to tape. If the OG went through an all analog process for its debut in 2003 i am not sure.
It was originally cut on analog.
9:38 😣
Already got the replacements! And they are flawless!
@@PiecesofVinyl that was so painful to watch. Lol. But glad your replacement copy is perfect!
Your description of the 20th anniversary, "surface noise is more like a crackle, which adds a little nostalgia".... your 'hipster' side is really showing, good grief!
I was buying records over 50 years ago and then when a record had "crackle" or too much other noise it was not considered normal... in fact, as with now, back then noisy records were not a good thing and not common... just poorly pressed or from recycled vinyl.
I have 4 versions of this album, the first 3 are poor copies, the 4th will be the UHQR when it arrives... all in the same condition in which I bought them when new, but, Thirdman does NOT put a lot of care in where or how their records are pressed.
1). I have the White/Red OG pressed at United Record Pressing, which was probably the worse pressing plant in the country... and this version sounds it... very noisy, lots of pops ticks, sibilance galore!
2). The 2021 Pallas pressing is a big improvement in vinyl quality... but the sibilance issues are still there.
3.) The 2023 20th Anniversay, pressed at ThirdMan, is probably the worst of the 3, but is somewhat close to the OG in noise and sibilance.
I can't stand the sibilance, noise and other manufacturing distortions, so none of the White Stripes albums get played very often... and I have all of them, multiple pressings of each.
I would say what versions I do have, the Pallas pressings and Kevin Gray cut versions are the only ones played.
In my opinion, ThirdMan has followed suit of United Record Pressing in being one of the worst pressing plants in the country/world for quality.... I only buy something they press when it is an absolute must.
I don't find "crackle", pops, clicks, non-fill zip and sibilance "nostalgic"... I almost always return records with these traits unless there is no choice.
When people tolerate such poor quality standards, they continue, so I usually spend my $$ elsewhere.
My preference and owned copy is the UHQR which I i have returned because of three or four pops on the entire album. I can’t stand any noise at all. It should be dead silent….but….some people that watch can’t and will never want or own the UHQR and a lot of people will own the 20th reissue so the line about the crackle being tolerable is to assure casual folks they can be fine with their $30 purchase. But if you want a dead silent sibilant free copy go for the UHQR. Thanks for watching!
I'm flabbergasted that you diagonally knife-cut that uhqr record, meanwhile you justified it by hearing one pop?... i'm actually sickened by such a distorted mentality.. unless i've been trolled.
In which i think both cases would be considered trolling.
There were numerous pops on a couple tracks. Acoustic sounds will replace it for you - but you have to destroy the record and show them the proof. This is a $170 record after tax and shipping and they claim the clarity vinyl is the absolute best - so yeah - I give them no room for error at all. No slight warps/pops/clicks. I will continue to send it back until it’s right. This time it only took one round. For other uhqrs they have come in perfect - my miles Davis 45rpm took 5 rounds to get a flat disc two. If this was a $30 record - no problem. They want to be best - gotta have the QC. And they usually do and if not they will replace it. Good service to me!
@@PiecesofVinyl thanks for the reply. sorry if i missed it when i viewed, but did you do any vacuum cleaning? warping is nothing fun to deal with, i know that. i just feel there are better ways to deal with it, rather than destroying it completely.. record revirginizer etc. thanks for the vid and response! cheers, and happy listening!