DEBATE: Hasan Piker vs Charlie Kirk, Politicon 2018
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Two of the best and brightest young minds from opposite sides of the political spectrum have a rematch at Politicon to settle the question of whether young people should be liberal or conservative once and for all.
Moderator: Steven Olikara
I think we can all agree that the moderator lost this debate.
MrBobkilla 😂🤣😂🤣
Too nice to be a moderator...
I feel bad for him. He’s getting more hate in this comment section (at least at the top) than charlie and hassan are.
@@Mark-xw5yt Yeah, I do agree... Though some of the hate is deserved
@@popdop0074 Literally remove the moderator from the debate, and nothing changes
This is just Charlie expecting a Liberal but getting a Leftist
thats not the same thing?
@@RUI4p They are absolutely not the same thing.
@@RUI4p Educate your damn self.
@@RUI4p lmao imagine embarrassing yourself like this
@@beatlesandoasis6631 what’s your favorite song on pinkerton
why is there an audience member sitting in middle of Charlie and Hasan?
Moderator interference is just regulation in the marketplace of ideas.
@@CrimeEnjoyer lmao
🤣🤣 idk it was so weird
*** I'll be the moderator of this debate **
- quietly sits there and doesn't moderate at all.
Agreed, what a terrible “debate”. Nearly impossible to listen to
Kirk thinks he's debating a centrist Democrat.
Thats all he knows how to debate
Kirk isn't debating he is ranting
Hi April,
Charlie Kirk is just a mouthpiece for his donors. He is there to make the same Talking Points no matter who he is debating.
Dying channel, dying political party. You all support the people that believe we deserved 9/11, congrats.
Dr. MDMA M.D. uhm we kinda did. 9/11 doesn’t happen if we don’t involve ourselves in the Middle East
Charlie: “Socialism causes Death!”
Hasan: “People die from Capitalism as well...”
Charlie: “Death is unforunate”
XD
@@glenjoke10 I’m not even a socialist I just find that argument ironic...
@@glenjoke10 “no one has ever killed anyone in the name of capitalism” so you’re gonna ignore literally every war started/funded by the US?
@@glenjoke10 you understand that imperialism is part of capitalism right? you understand slavery was part of the capitalist system to generate as much profit as possible while producing the most product right?
@@vinnylepre98 Imperialism and conquering has always been caused by institutions with great power. Wether it has been capitalistic companies, imperialistic regimes or both of them working together. It‘s not about Capitalism or Socialism. It‘s about a single institution having too much power.
@@glenjoke10 Canadian here! Liberal social democracy rocks :)
Additionally, Kirk derailed Hasan from the start; Hasan literally said within two minutes of the debate starting that socialism isn’t ideal, and instead that better regulation of markets and subsidies to improve quality of life are a good thing. *All* of Kirk’s talking points were about socialism and how poor Cuba and Venezuela are. Conveniently ignoring successful social democracies like Canada and most of Europe.
The difference in drip is jarring.
@@thisguy9733 what does that have to do with anything,, we’re talking about the drip sir.
@@thisguy9733 money doesn’t buy drip you can be rich but not have drip. even if one had money when they were younger,, they both have money now,, so there’s no excuse
@@thisguy9733 you deadass just want a moment to shit on hasan for having a job from nepotism,, when it has nothing to do with anything.
@@jerryryans2235 dont feed the troll
What is drip?
This moderator is one of the most useless people I’ve ever seen
I’ve never seen anybody with as much inability to wear yeezys as much as Charlie Kirk lmaooo
He literally could've put anything else on and it would've looked better... literally anything.
@Chase Miller let’s not hate on anyone watching political debates on TH-cam. There are some really brain dead Channels on this app like 5 minute crafts or fortnite where people just waste their brains away 😆
@Holy Crusader exactly. We have some intellectuals here😆
@@vuks-fj7fl you must be very smart🤦♂️
@@stevebri9161 ?
The moderator absolutely failed.
Ikr
Charlie saying competition makes healthcare cheaper💀💀
bIGGEST cap I've heard even on the logical spectrum
it does want me to explain?
@@moefriends1093 go for it, I'd love to hear this take.
@@YourBudEgg where's the take?
@@YourBudEgg even Joe Biden somewhat knows this when there are multiple companys they want to sell there stuff but if they have a companie that has it cheaper than they have to make it cheaper ap if they made it cheaper then the next company wants to sell but the cheap one is taking there customers so they create a new item (medicine) that's better but at same price this lifted 86% of people out of poverty in the last 300 years and since the industrial revolution it has been going faster this is called $Capitalism$
Gotta be the worst moderator ever
They had a 'moderator'???????
That's an audience 😂😂
"Sit down you psycho" is the best part of this whole debate
Yeah Cenk really went psycho!!
Who is letting Charlie Kirk dress himself
the yeezys + mismatched blazer n denim combo is making me lose my shit
@@gabeg1863 jeans with a suit is a no
The narrow shoulders on the blazer, too.
Those kicks! 🤣
It's an old, proud institution of American conservatism to forever look like your mom still dresses you at any age.
Worst 👏 moderator 👏 everrr. 👏👏👏👏👏
He should of made it less awkward and just took a seat with the audience lollll
To be fair, they didnt need a moderator this time.
The biggest problem with this debate is the moderator…
He was supposed to be a moderator?
Has won 40 seconds in when he outdripped charlie
Facts
even the moderator outdripped him
fr, I liked the “I can barely fit in this chair”
the chad leftist vs the virgin small face
Capitalism didn't get the Prescription going .
All the money for research comes from tax payers .
Most medications are like that .
Then got some reason our Government be let's Big Pharma rip us off .
Prescription cost wouldn't be do high if we used Collective Bargaining.
My Cancer Treatment cost me well over 150000 dollars.
Even with Insurance , being a Veteran ( had to go outside of the VA ), I still had to take out a loan .
That's wrong .
Everyone is against Democratic Socialism .
Until they get ill or something.
COVID brought this country to it's knees .
We'll be recovering from this for decades .
Hasan: Let's just talk about America.
Charlie: Proceeds to name every country he knows.
Because other country did practice socialism... and fall big time... Russian and Chinese fleet to American because there is no future for the average citizens . US is the number one choice because they know freedom, good college and usd is strong.
@@cary1130 ok.. In Denmark we have like the 2nd highest taxcut, college/education is free (we even get paid for going to school) This means that everybody actually have the same opportunities. Don't know about you, but that sound like freedom to me😉
@@snackuilleomeal120 sounds pretty awesome with a population only 5.7 million. Just LA along is nearly 3x of Demark population near 14 millions. since everything was distributed by the government from you own money through taxation (maybe you haven't earn a buck yet because you still in school) your choices become limit to government filter it for you. your sales tax is what 25% so if I need to get a milk for $1 I need to pay another 25%. every penny counts. why not keep majority of your own money that you earn (10% taxation) and take your money and your talent and skill study and start something. btw Bernie Sander keep using Denmark is socialist and your president said nope we are not socialist country...btw US been paying billion of dollar to protect you through NATO. that's another expense Denmark need now worry about. because US taxpayer is paying to protect you.
@@cary1130 lol I go to school and work in my spare time. I make like $900 every month. Nobody is really poor in Denmark because we take care of each other through our taxes, and destribute our resources well. This means that the extra 25% isn't the biggest deal. I pretty sure we are "social democratic" so I'm not sure which danish 'president' said we aren't
@@snackuilleomeal120 th-cam.com/video/tzEPKrHalaY/w-d-xo.html
He lost me at the “America is the greatest country”. That is not a fact, it is an opinion. There are a lot of metrics one can use to evaluate what makes a country great, and the US is struggling in a variety of them.
i guarantee you live in america and haven’t traveled out to at least 2 different countries in your lifetime. and even if you did. you’re wrong😂😂
@@notktm can you name a category that the USA is #1 in?
@@d0grent not after 2020 . ask me in 2019
Charlie proves that throwing out random numbers without context doesn't actually prove anything, also literally lying through his teeth, he said Cuba had a lower life expectancy then the US by 15 years when it's the same.
and the lowest aids rate in the world lmao
too bad the country is so broken form sanctions by the US
Omg this comment made me look it up, jesus christ, he's a liar, Cuba's life expectancy is HIGHER than the US's
Wait, you actually believe statistics coming out of Cuba? Do you also believe The Covid #’ a pit of China?
@@bigg2168 of course he did start fact checking these idiots and read the studies they mention and you’ll realize they lie a lot more then you think
@@Grande79 Trusting only your own country’s media is an easy way to be brainwashed by propaganda.
Politics aside...damn Hassan lookin fresh as HELL and Charlie's wearing clothes I guess
HAHAH Charlie really said shoe carnival chic🥶🥴
Hassan always looks good, and Charlie always looks like a middle aged dad (coming from a conservative btw)
Hasan looking like a gay boy who wished he was in the army with this boots. Lookin gay af
@@bye92 what’s wrong with being gay? And Hasan’s style is infinitely better than Charlie’s.
Hasan wearing clothes his uncle bought him....
Both did a great job promoting socialist ideas
Can you elaborate on that
@@stevebri9161 Charlie’s arguments were so terrible that he ended up proving Hasan’s points about socialism being potentially good and us already benefiting from a mixed economy
@@BushidoBoyd Do you honestly believe that having more government ran/controlled programs is going to make us better off? This completely defeats the point of a thriving country
@@BushidoBoyd Charlie's arguments were not terrible because Hassan is basing everything off of emotion.... I'm not saying he doesn't have the right intentions
@@stevebri9161 Do you honestly believe it’s as simple as no regulation = good and any regulation = bad?
And if you think Hassan was the emotional one and Charlie wasn’t, then we both watched different videos
Charlie owned his ass 😂😂
Hasan: **breathes**
Charlie: Venezuela, Vietnam, Cuba, Mao's China
ZIMBABWE, USSR, GUATEMALA
Yeah bro this argument is raising my fkn blood pressure idk how hassan keeps his cool
@@oliverbrown9627 Alright, what's your counter-point? Were any of these states successful?
@@lambeezy5014 there are many countries where it has worked and hes just distracting from the argument by repeatedly listing these countries or cringely implying Hasan doesn't care about death. 10:38 Rather than listing or making tactless implications he should actually argue against the benefits of socialism that Hasan is supporting his argument with
10000 billion dead, vuvuzela, iPhone
"Cuba - the place where the life expectancy is 15 years less than America" @13:30
Wait....lets check.
Cuba life expectancy 79 years, USA = 78 years.
What are you talking about, Mr. Kirk. I think someone is lying.
Kirk still made up the numbers.
Yeah Kirk still pulled those numbers out of his ass.
Do you really trust any numbers that come out of Cuba?
@@whyamimrpink78 I trust the WHO and IGO's that confirm Cuba's numbers.
@@whyamimrpink78 WHO generally runs these numbers. It is in their best benefit for the numbers to be as accurate as possible.
It really doesn’t even matter who “won” or “lost” the debate once Charlie started freaking out he forfeited the entire debate
Chris B. Hasan freaked out a lot more.
wrsantos did Hassan start yelling at people in the audience?
Chris B. Doesn’t prove anything. Hasan was more disrespectful during the debate that Charlie was. Hasan was the first to act “freaked out”.
Chris B. WHY do you think Charlie started doing that? Who was in the audience that started saying stuff prior to Charlie shouting?
@@wrsantos when did Hasan try to fight an audience member lmao
Conservatives in this comment section talking about how unprofessional Hasan was are gonna HATE Donald Trump.
Right?
They loved it when he called Rosi O'Donnell a fat slob tho lmaooo
Not at all. Trump is smart Hasan is an idiot!
@@noreenmcgovern1023 You have room temperature IQ... In Celsius...
@@noreenmcgovern1023the way I’ve seen four comments from you talking about Hasan😂 are you sure you really don’t like him?
You would think so… unfortunately the hypocrisy is never ending with this group
Charlie: HASAN LET ME FINISH
Also Charlie: alright hasan imma stop you right there and talk about Venezuela real quick
He let him finish more
He was answering,never mind 😂😂 these are fun honestly
did anyone count how many times charlie kirk says venezuala? it feels like a million LMAO
@@snowhateswinter4712 and CuBa
Might be the most painful thing I’ve ever witnessed. They both did horrific as far as having the decency to not interrupt their opponent went but Charlie actually did so bad that he got me to side with Hasan on almost everything here.
They honestly needed to cut charlie's mic. He tries to make 8 different points and as soon as hasan refutes one he goes on a tangent.
Right. Honestly, what's the point of debates like this if they don't go through each point one by one. They always end up skipping over important points that I wish could be dwelled on a little more because one person wants to list 20 different points at once
@@AT-vp8qw facts dude
@@L4ck0Ski11 This is a debate that makes Charlie Kirk money, of course he's gonna grandstand and not actually engage in debate. Thats the point of these "debates" is to make sure he gets paid to "live like a capitalist" and be an enforcer of a capitalist system. Losing in capitalism means losing in survival.
Wait what!? Charlie could barley get a word in. Hassan kept interrupting Charlie every other word and went on some communist diatribe. The reason Charlie had to rattle off his facts is because Hassan wouldn’t shut the hell up. Btw Hassan gave 0 facts and 0 sources for his arguments which Charlie did but people like Hassan don’t care about facts. Watch the debate again and you’ll see Hassan just whines about the country he lives in that allowed him to make the money he makes. He complains about how corrupt the government is yet wants to expand its power over us lol.
"We need to silence those I disagree with!"
Charlie admitted we have a food abundance in this country...and, people die of hunger.
You must remember, Charlie is unable to link things together. Rather, he thinks problems are separate and never connected with something else
Who tf is dying of hunger in the u.s? Honestly asking lol I know absolutely nobody that has starved to death due to no access to food. Kinda disingenuous to say that...
@@soccerislife6108 Please use the internet. It was provided to you. Just because you don't know someone who has to deal with hunger doesn't mean they don't exist.
@@soccerislife6108 I don't know anyone who has died of AIDS therefore no one has ever died of AIDS
Great logic my dude
The moderator being non existent 🫥😭
The dude on the left is conservative, and they call liberals triggered and snowflakes, but he seems to be the one with a red face, screaming into his mic, and his posture is uptight and uncomfortable. 😂😂 👌
No matter his posture, he still put more facts and relevance to the conversation than Hasan.
@@gory2905 If your idea of “relevance” is discussing the USSR and democrats, then sure.
@@David-gr1do what about him using other proven facts such as: 100 million people dead under socialism in last 100 years; Socialized medicine ruining the veteran’s system; Cuba life expectancy is 50 years; FDA disallowing entrepreneurs to compete against big Pharma; Regulations pricing out middle class consumers as corporations use it as a tool to go after small business owners.
Oooo, and if that isn’t enough, here’s some specifics: Dodd-frank disallows community banks from competing against high level, national and or international ones, giving an 80% decrease in community banks; The Venezuelan government made the average Venezuelan lose 17 pounds, put it on the brink of civil war, gave a 40,000% inflation, took away any functioning economy and set a 42% unemployment in all of its exploitation from the lies of Karl Marx; most murderous, hopeless, and poor cities are run by democrats such as
Philadelphia, Chicago, Oakland, Portland, Seattle and Milwaukee; Chicago has has the highest property taxes, institutional income tax, and debt.
Also, if that wasn’t enough, here’s some stuff stated about how free market Capitalism is far better: $20,000 to $500 cost of LASIK eye surgery; Since it’s not covered by insurance, consumer can go straight to doctor so they know how much it costs, so prices went down, quality went up, and accessibility goes outward, that’s what happens with a market; anything costs less with competition; Free market capitalism is most successful ever, and the western civilization has been one of the greatest experiments ever; Life expectancy has doubled in the last 100 years in America.
Plus, something no democrat wants to hear, COUNTRIES!!! Nothing like some proof, real, easy to find evidence starting with our beloved Venezuela, then to Zimbabwe, Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea, former Algeria, former Belarus, East Germany, Soviet Union, and Mao’s China.
@@David-gr1do lol u didnt respond,exposed
Liberals for the most part are referred to as snowflakes because they use emotions over logic... Meaning they let their feelings get the best of them instead of what's actually going on
That moderater did a fantastic job of stopping these two from talking over each other.
😂😂😂
kappa
The moderator made is so entertaining tho!
That's not true I see hassan is interrupting a whole time and the moderate just laughs
@@agolg622 clearly it was sarcastic
When Hasan speaks his argument or asks a question.
Charlie: Cuba,North Korea,Zimbabwe, and Sovite Union, Socialism Bad.
Don’t forget the National Socialist Party and North Korea
What went wrong at those places then...should we not try to learn from others mistakes?
@@Roguenight863 bruh
@@animposter4971 well... Hasan has never really rebuted the claims that socialism was the cause of the failure of those places. He only laughs, says the are unconnected and calls Charlie crazy for bringing them up. But I never got clear answer as to why they shouldn't be mentioned.
@@iTotallyJuust not really , when he mentioned venezuela and national worker socialist party , he had know what idea what he is talking about , because both of these things dont come under the category of socialism , and whenever conservatives talks about socialism or communism , they never mentioned what it actually means , they just keep saying its bad . everytime i have debated a conservative on socialism or communism , they never answer my question what it really means. Just like when charlie blindly said communism killed 100 million people , i have sources and studies to prove that communism never actually killed this many people and how many have died under capitalism, and i have sources also to prove that nazis and countries like cuba, venezuela, USSR, Stalin USSR, Mao's china and north korea ... they are neither socialist nor communists
Hasan kept interrupting...
Hasan was basically like:
"Let me get this dub real quick"
I'm just over here like:
"Sure thing dog"
Kirk never answered 1 question.
King of deflection
All the questions *
Lmfao goodness you POS Nazis/commie donkey democRat pigs are obviously retarded!
@@letogeemuabdib5262 stay mad
I didn't get any real questions from hassan.... just emotional outburst
"Western civilization was created by free market capitalism"
Charlie is brain dead. Western civilization existed long before the concept of capitalism and guys like Adam Smith
A Sabry It was a retarded statement. Something along the lines of it helping advance western civilization would be more accurate and even then it has been a failure to western civilization in some aspects such as healthcare and warfare.
RIght? Western Civilization dominated because of the industrial revolution but almost collapsed because of unregulated capitalism. Without socialism / regulations, America would have never left the great depression.
The consept of free markets is the inherit nature of humans. When tribes traded with eachother many thousands of years ago there was no government deciding the price and taking a cut
@@Sheiiko Correct that free markets are old - capitalism is not. Western civilization existed for millennia before capitalism which isn't interchangeable with free markets - guess what, socialist markets also exist.
This Hasan kid’s really pissing me off
Why? What did he say that was wrong?
Are you mad cause he destroyed Charlie. These conservatives are so sensitive lol
@@JappyChan he didnt destroy Charlie lol. Hasan really needs to learn to stfu and listen for 60 seconds after he's been talking for 3 minutes straight. He doesn't know how to listen. lil bro asks Charlie a question, Charlie responds, Hasan interrupts. This was annoying to watch..
@lolBrando Charlie did the same thing....does it make it right? No. That's why there is a moderator. The moderator was trash. Hasan asked him a question and he wasn't answering him. He had to interrupt him to get him back on track....you know the moderators job, lol.
@@lolBrando Charlie was repeating points proven wrong and not letting Hassan speak though…
It’s fun watching these guys yell at each other but this is the least constructive debate I’ve ever seen. Hasan doesn’t complete half of his points, Charlie distracts with misleading and unrelated information, and both of them interrupt constantly.
It’s a shame, because Charlie Kirk really was trying to get Hassan to just SAY WHAT HE BELIEVES . But he refused. All he said was “LoOk ArOuNd YoU” and “ThAt’S sTuPiD”. Provided absolutely nothing for Charlie to work with, while Charlie threw non-stop examples and facts to Hassan. To call this a Debate would be giving far too much credit and validation to the Young Turks... they didn’t even show an iota on intelligence here.
@@PhillyFaithful93 Dude Charlie kept straight up lying. He said small businesses make up 85% of the job force when it's actually 65 but that number is inflated cause it counts small businesses as one with less than 500 employees . He also said that Cuba's average life span was 15% lower when in fact it is the exact same as Americas which is 78.
E N L I G H T E N D C E N T R I S T
Bassel Wehbe careful pal, you’re talking to the CEO of Antifa
When he started Venezuela-ing he should've brought up the fact that Venezuela literally got stripped of their oil industry (their main source of economy) by ultra-capitalist countries
what they no, they grew their public sector so big the oil sector could not cop the cost and hence they started printing money.
@@ravanadevadas3770 what you have just said is nothing, there were nations taking their oil, that's simply a fact, I mean send me a link that disproves that and i'll check it out
@@fortnitedialectics2050 um what r u on about Venezuela currently has the largest oil reserves in the world they haven't been taken. Their issue is poor management of their resources
@@chriswebb76 source?
@@fortnitedialectics2050 legit go search it on google its widely known they have bigger reserves than Saudi Arabia
Hasan did pretty well but I can see why Kirk backed out of debating Kyle Kulinski. Kirk would’ve gotten obliterated. I think whoever is paying Kirk looked at Kyle’s content and forced him to back out.
Well, Charlie is gonna get Destroyed by Sam.
@@yobased2872 funny troll
You're a demongraphic.
STOP ABORTING BABIES, START ABORTING LIBERALS so you’re saying social safety and well being programs can’t work because there’s to many people of color?
@@yobased2872 and there is Canada who is more diverse than the U.S.
@@yobased2872 if we utilize their techniques maybe our society can thrive, until then the capitalism you seem to love is creating the wealth and education gaps in our society. Sad you are part of our problem.
This Hasan guy is hard to listen to. He souinds like a spoiled teenager.DUDE.
Welcome to 2024 Democrats
Yo is it just me or does Charlie’s face keep getting tinnier over the debate
just like his brain ☺
The angrier he gets the smaller his face gets
I really don’t think charlie has his own thoughts. It’s just a bunch of popular conservative taking points with no context.
he was declaring simple facts. I really dont know why are you so mad about facts, must be a snowflake:)
@@dziugas6795 Lmfao yea and I bet you don't get triggered by anything right? Get outta here you hypocritical snowflake.
@@4G3NTOR4NG3 he didn’t say anything about he triggered, he was talking about factual info that Charlie gave to the conversation and Hasan didn’t.
@@gory2905 Oh please. All Charlie said was basically socialism bad. He didn't bring any new facts or reasons why socialism would be bad to the table. Hasan did a decent job at trying to debate someone who is unwilling to look at any facts presented.
@@supri5e703 All Charlie said was Socialism bad, yes, with proven facts such as: 100 million people dead under socialism in last 100 years; Socialized medicine ruining the veteran’s system; Cuba life expectancy is 50 years; FDA disallowing entrepreneurs to compete against big Pharma; Regulations pricing out middle class consumers as corporations use it as a tool to go after small business owners.
Oooo, and if that isn’t enough, here’s some specifics: Dodd-frank disallows community banks from competing against high level, national and or international ones, giving an 80% decrease in community banks; The Venezuelan government made the average Venezuelan lose 17 pounds, put it on the brink of civil war, gave a 40,000% inflation, took away any functioning economy and set a 42% unemployment in all of its exploitation from the lies of Karl Marx; most murderous, hopeless, and poor cities are run by democrats such as
Philadelphia, Chicago, Oakland, Portland, Seattle and Milwaukee; Chicago has has the highest property taxes, institutional income tax, and debt.
Also, if that wasn’t enough, here’s some stuff stated about how free market Capitalism is far better: $20,000 to $500 cost of LASIK eye surgery; Since it’s not covered by insurance, consumer can go straight to doctor so they know how much it costs, so prices went down, quality went up, and accessibility goes outward, that’s what happens with a market; anything costs less with competition; Free market capitalism is most successful ever, and the western civilization has been one of the greatest experiments ever; Life expectancy has doubled in the last 100 years in America.
Plus, something no democrat wants to hear, COUNTRIES!!! Nothing like some proof, real, easy to find evidence starting with our beloved Venezuela, then to Zimbabwe, Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea, former Algeria, former Belarus, East Germany, Soviet Union, and Mao’s China.
So, about Socialism is bad... your right!
Still crazy to me how Kirk says that Socialisms responsible for 100 million deaths but every issue with Capitalism is "Corporatism" or some pseudo capitalism
Mike Laup yeah kind of odd. Both sides can’t admit the flaws their own side has. Like most things a middle ground is most likely best
This debate didn’t have a moderator
"Donald Trump is making the world a safer place" did not age well LMAO
Nobody asked for covid.
Jimbo Zimbo And you don’t think he could have handled it better?
The professional Camper no
The professional Camper you have a chance of getting it no matter how much you follow the rules that are set you still can get it (slim chance) but it’s still possibly.
@@Poppityy lmao saying democrat run cities are handling it poorly implies that there are republican run cities out there who are handling better. Fact is all cities are democrat run. That’s just cities
I really wish the moderator did a better job structuring this debate.
True
>politicon in charge of doing something right
That'll be the day.
What moderator? Hahaha
Or any moderating at all..
kirk dude just spits out numbers with no context and smugly thinks he wins every argument lmao
Damn him for knowing statistics🤣
I agree it nauseating but he presents the facts
@@Zero_cool79 statistics without context is not the knowledge of statistics. That's why actual studies factor in related numbers. If you read a study on education it factors in families, schools, and students. Statistics are multifaceted and Kirk's fans don't understand that. That's why his main strategy is deflection and trying to reach another talking point ASAP.
@@rickeygregory9089 ok so a few things.
1. You can look up everything he says. Its rather easy to do since we all have computers in the palm of our hands and the fact that he is well versed in the statistics he is using means he studied both sides of thw issue ti actually make an argument.
2. Democrats love usingf the phrase "talking points."
I remember whne the truth was simply called truth.
3. Only some statistcs are multifacited, such as the wage gap myth. Some statistics are just bare bomes and black and white.
4. I watched this entire debate. I didnt here much "deflection" from kirk. However, i did here Hassan use transition phrases such as "what about," and "how come," which usually signals a new line of thought. With Hassan its fine but if Kirk does it its deflection? This is what makes democrats so easy to debate and this is why they are so often defeted if they dont apeal to the emotions of the masses. They seem to want to have different rules for themselves and when they cannot have those rules applied they scream foul (or in other words; deflection).
Who needs facts puhhhh
Hassan pisses me off
The chunky dad sneakers, the disconnect from reality, AND with a side of anger issues...the true physical embodiment of conservative men in America ✨
the AUDACITY charlie has pulling up in a middle school dance outfit😔
He's wearing yeezys dear god
@@austin5944 that’s even worse, you’re telling me he paid more than 20 bucks for those ugly things🥴
@@amandaellenburg4674 I think they look cool with the right fit, not a suit though
Almost like saying dawg every 2 minutes in a debate lol
Charlie kirk: "Hasan let me finished I interrupted you first"
Why even have a moderator on stage? He didn't do anything.
I'm glad they didn't, this debate was too entertaining.
Hassin is terrible at debate had to turn off
Always
First ten mins of this video Charlie kirk got roasted. He had to change the subject to health care. He even yelled at hassan lol Charlie is a joke.
@@JappyChanHassan is a proven liar and also spews nonsense literal verbal garbage with no meaning. Hes literally a sponge feeding off the likes of people like you, willingly ignorant of what’s happening and facts. You have an absolute inability to argue most points you actually argue about because they are actually PROVEN wrong and it’s cringe.
@@JefferyDahmer-d5y Chuck Kirk is a proven liar and also spews nonsense literal verbal garbage with no meaning. Hes literally a sponge feeding off the likes of people like you, willingly ignorant of what's happening and facts. You have an absolute inability to argue most points you actually argue about because they are actually PROVEN wrong and it's cringe. 🥱
@@JefferyDahmer-d5ywhat has he lied about?
For someone that hates socialism so much, Charlie seems to love being publicly owned.
This is really funny
good one
How on earth did Hasan own Charlie? Hahahahaha
Delusion of liberals has no bounds.
Bro did you watch the video? Charlie seeped the floor with this fool
You can see the result of our poor education system when people think Charlie Kirk won this "debate". Charlie excels at appealing to poorly educated neo conservatives by using " gotcha moments", logical fallacies, and patriotism.
You’re right but hasan could have done much better in my opinion
This debate would have been mad lit if Hasan got to finish more of his thoughts. Charlie won, but not with substance, just sheer force lol
@@fridgeninjas How is "countries only failed cause of socialism" Charlie winning? Especially when America is proud to intervene in other countries buisness, systems, and governments?
@@antennaboy3383 I agree with you, I thought most of what Charlie said was absolute garbage. I think he "won" in the sense that he was able to control the narrative for a longer period of time. He straight up just talked over Hasan for most of this, and many times steered the discussion away from certain topics when he knew Hasan was setting up to obliterate him.
Charlie's points sucked, but he was the more skilled debater.
@@fridgeninjas I just notice how Charlie listed facts on completely unrelated topics at times, and when Hasan demonstrated knowledge on a certain subject, Charlie wanted to move away from that talking point, like the Lasic Eye Surgery thing, the Socialism being evil and contries failing "OnLy DuE tO sOcAliSm" and etc. Why doesn't Hasan practice what he preeches? Cause it doesn't work if ONLY HASAN gives away whatever % of his money. When he said "do you think that's how it works?", it is actually a genuine question. It's much easier to practice capitalism and free market ideas...When you have WAY more money and live in a country that enables you to do so.
Did he really bring up Cuba as an example of poor health care? The Cuban health care system, because it lacks resources, and thus cannot afford to cure people after they get ill, has developed one of world's best preventative health care systems per cost. The country sucks, but health care is one the few things that are actually decent there.
And the ultimate irony is Cuba has a higher life expectancy and lower infant mortality rate then the US, despite all of its other significant problems.
Exactly. Cuba has had a lot of problems (some of those caused by us due to economic sanctions, thankfully Obama began the process on dialing that back) but health care isn't one of them. People still leave Cuba yes, but it's not because of health care, it's because of a multitude of other reasons.
Hasan’s argument is just getting loud and saying everything is stupid but has no real rebuttal
Muslims are not good with facts.
Hasan knows Charlie is creating good points so he interrupts him with nonsensical “rebuttals”.
Cuba's life expectancy is 79.2 years---USA 78.7 years.
Cuba's infant mortality 4.1 out of 1,000---USA 5.6 out of 1,000.
Cuba is known for having one of the best healthcare systems in the world.
all while the USA imposes strict embargoes on them
Wow a one year difference my god. Meanwhile most of their citizens live can barely affor toilet paper
@@omarthescriblomale8279 I think you have an inaccurate impression of Cuba. They don't have a lot of luxury items because of the embargo, but the country is thriving with a booming tourist industry. Where the hell do you get your information about Cuba? Tony Montana?
@@blndrhed um cuba is not a tourist thrill.
Cuba is a place where CELEBRITIES mostly visit. Cuba also has nice beaches, but what does that have to do with the fact that they are a socialist hellhole to live in?
@@omarthescriblomale8279 if you'd watched the video you would understand that the OP is disproving Charlie's anti-socialist characterization of Cuba. considering yes, Cuba before socialism was, and still is, poorer than the US. but currently, compare it to the rest of Latin America and its the only country without widespread malnutrition. so yes, socialism in cuba has thrived.
Charlie Kirk: "Success in capitalist societies is all about hard work. Don't blame others for your failings."
Also Charlie Kirk: "I dropped out of community college because it was too hard, and I got rejected from West Point because of affirmative action. Not because West Point has very high academic standards and requires 5 years of active duty military service post-graduation."
Charlie is such a dumbass hypocrite.
Charlie got owned 😂😭
And the saddest part is he owned himself, Hassan didn't even have to try.
Riiiiiight 😂
Y’all in denial
Nah, when Hasan started talking about Cuba, he lost me. What a bunch of nonsense... The man doesn't know what he's talking about
Cuba's life expectancy is 79 years lol
Exactly. They out live us. Charlie was just spewing lies the whole time.
@@richardc9634and the US sanctions have NOTHING to do with that.
@@yobased2872 yeah. Likely cause of the US oppressive sanctions. Duh. Surface floaters. You never dig to deep do you. Have you ever studied critical thinking? Look it up. But first you need to know how to do research, which I doubt you do.
After doing some research, Cuba doesn't seem to report the death of fetuses under 21 weeks and of course hides a lot of information that makes their system look horrible. Cuba also does not allow independent verification of their health claims.
@@richardc9634 and yet despite all America's economic power, Cuba's life expectancy is still better lmao
This moderator didn’t moderate shit this was annoying af
I love how conservatives constantly say let me finish. While repeatedly interrupting the person they are talking to and never let them talk long enough to explain their points
like joe biden?
@Aj Shields maybe if you did some research you wouldn't have said some dumb shit like that. "Last year Cuba became the first country in the world to eliminate mother to child transmission of HIV and syphilis as a public health problem. According to the World Health Organization
@@unluckyattacks6371 by having a Caesarean section? Is that what you mean?
@@gory2905 antiretroviral therapy. Dude you have the internet with pretty much all of human knowledge in your pocket USE IT. Stop being dumb go look it up for yourself. Do you not know how to do research?
they were both doing it lmao shut up
hasan got cooked by Charlie
You didn’t watch the debate i see
In what world😂 Charlie is an idiot
@@kayleeokAnd Hasan has shoe size IQ. So what's your point? Charlie still cooked hias ass. 😂
Charlie did crush him.
@@frederikwilliamjakobsen7298 Bro Charlie won pretty easily
Its amazing how hard is for Americans to understand healthcare
?
The vast majority of all the medical technology and research your country uses has come from the US. Don't tell us we don't know what we're doing when your country would be thirty years behind without the influence of the US.
Healthcare research doesn't equal healthcare of citizens.
@@mohammedrashid8250 yea everyone knows that BC your all about the money
@@mohammedrashid8250 not like USA cares about peoples health
Charlie Kirk's points about Trump aged like warm milk.
imagine thinking charlie won lmao
Charlie WRECKED him
@@Zero_cool79 says the man who claimed USA was economically mobile
Are you a troll ?
@@keyan1219 why does the U.S have the most immigrants in the world as of 2019 (48.2 million). Why would i be a troll?
@@Zero_cool79 what does that have to do with anything ?
@@keyan1219 for the U.S not being economically mobile, 1.18 million people (Thats just the legal immigration), last year, left those other countries and immigrated to the U.S.
Th U.S Ranked 27 out of 82. So something about the U.S keeps people coming here.
America is so good even the haters won't leave.
Interrupting just made Hassan look even more stupid
how did they let charlie walk on the stage with that fit
Bro Kirk lost so bad he started arguing with Cenk in the audience, wtf
what did that guy said? Icouldn't heard over crowd.
Yeah what the hell happened there.
@@kangurumann4063 He asked Charlie what his salary is
who is this Cenk
@@brokkoliomg6103 Cenk from The Young Turks
Charles got bodied
As soon as Hassan said "dawg" he lost me. Who tf says "dawg" in a formal political debate.
reatded socialist.. that's who. THAT was why he only makes 60k a year. lol
@@velastra1989man you can’t even spell the slur you’re trying to throw at him. This comment requires some self-reflection lmao.
@N.slash.A. Your retort is knocking a typo? ..lol
@@velastra1989 You’re not really in a position to be calling someone else’s intelligence into question if you can’t even be bothered to notice or correct an egregious spelling error. That’s all :)
@@N.slash.A.Nice logical fallacy you got there.
Gotta love how Charlie constantly tries to shit on Hasan for connecting empathy/morality to his political position, but then Charlie goes and says "socialism is evil". Like cmon dude, at least TRY to be self-consistent within even like 10 minute time frames
@Joshua Tamang what about most of Europe
All Charlie did was spew talking points and completely fail to address Hassan’s arguing points, questions, and view points.
You watched a different debate.
@@jasonstevens9567 how? He literally never let Hasan talk or even answered his questions
The moderator was just enjoying the debate
💯
Hasan needs debate practice. Please, shut up and wait your turn. Horrible moderator.
His go to strategy when he debates someone is to just interrupt and talk over them so they can't actually make any points. He does this every time the guy can't shut up for 2 seconds to let someone else speak typical rich snob who lives in LA
This is unwatchable because Charlie Kirk's idea of being clever is talking over Hassan and spouting lies. Charlie, talking really loudly doesn't make you correct.
JoshuaFitch sounds like the definition of a mental patient
But what if he screams it. Yeah screaming makes it the truth.
You just describes Hasan as well tho....Dawg
Capitalism resulted in someone designing Charlie's shoes, something thinking it was a good idea to take it to market, and Charlie walking into a Shoe Show and thinking they were a good buy.
Nico Savoia charlie would’ve done better if he showed up in full rick
Charlie instantly lost due to his lack of drip.
Charlie looks like a soccer dad lol. It may have also been because of the falsehoods he said but likeeeeeeee it’s probably the first one.
I've always found the smartest person is one giving all the facts and the dumbest insecure person is always going "Are we really gonna talk about this?" "C'mon really this?" "This is ridiculous". People who know they are losing always get emotionally disraught.
The “smartest” one in this situation is in the wrong tho
@@RenéSaussy How and why? Are the facts he's numbering false?
@@Alfaromero-wh8yk He’s missing the point and his argument doesn’t really make sense. The problem isn’t that the facts are wrong but that he is twisting them to make everything else seem wrong.
@@RenéSaussy your inability to comprehend complex sentences, doesnt mean Charlies argument dont make sense
@@goger282 what part of his argument is better and makes sense
hasan: *breathes*
charlie: soCIALisM Is Bad whY YoU HaTe sMall BUsiNeSSEs
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J Funny you mention that, because besides breathing, all Hassan did was scream “ThAt’s StUpId” over and over. Dude didn’t give a single tangible fact about anything for an entire hour... yet the Young Turk clown posse is out here trying to alter the reality of this absolute slaughter at the hands of Charlie Kirk 🇺🇸
yimmychonga they both lost, kirk spouting off mostly unrelated data and then had a temper tantrum when asked to answer the same question he asked hasan. his entire argument also ignored basic economics and comparative politics. they both lost
@@anthonynuccio5657 so wtf should we do then as a country
Socialism is good in some aspects, but full socialism is literally stealing
charlie kirk hasnt actually rebutted anything. He simply spews irrelevant stats at Hassan to dodge the substance of questioning. Kirk is a bad debater. He may sound convincing, but, coming from a competitive debater here, he is failing at the basic fundementals of argumentation.
VENEZUELAAAAAAAA!!!!! Check mate liberals, lalalalalalalalalalalalala I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!!! CUBA!!!!!!!! NORTH KOREA!!!!!!!! Lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala.......
You should listen, and think about how Charlie’s responses are connected to Hasan’s statements. If you don’t, you can research the words or details. It actually makes good sense.
-and through that all, all the points get proven, and the political-side which is best for the socio-economic system is evident.
@@Ceorious Funny how your defense of Charlie's arguments is just 'think about it bro' and not actually giving a specific detail defense. I could use that response if these were two babies googaaing at eachother and it would fit because it doesn't actually say anything.
@@marcelbieganski3789bro came back 3 years later 😂😂
@@Majorskillissue101 War never changes. Old soldiers must return to battlefields thought forgotten.
Charlie says something, hasan refutes it and makes a good point, charlie changes topic and spouts numbers, people cheer, hasan breaks its down, Charlie doesnt address hasans point and instead spouts some numbers, rinse and repeat.
Basically the entire video lmao
@@L4ck0Ski11 no im saying hasan did well
@@L4ck0Ski11 yeah i guess kirk is just trying to look good and not actually find the truth of the matter
@@L4ck0Ski11 i didn’t see Hassan use one fact
@@L4ck0Ski11 they have smaller populations we could argue that their ideation couldn’t serve such a bloated country.
35 minutes into the debate now. This is a bloodbath. Hasan makes a point, Kirk responds with irrelevant republican talking points that have nothing to do with what Hasan is saying.
Smh
U watching the same thing?
@@fruitytuesdayz5760 yup
@@MrSonicRooster racist? lmaooo
When this video was posted the life expectancy for Cubans was 78,69 years. And America's life expectancy was 78,54. So Charlies point about Cubas Socialised Healthcare is entirely false
“I’m presenting numbers” yeah wrong ones you fuckin idiot
Like sis.... 15? Yall thought no one would fact check that?
Every debate I watch the conservative always whips out memorized numbers of multiple unrelated issues that have nothing to do with the original question. Every time.
And they're false nearly everytime.
Yep they’re fake ass numbers. Kirk said life’s expectancy in cuba was 63 but it’s really 79 compared to 78 to the US lol.
Respect both but Hasan interrupting nonstop was so insufferable zz
how can anyone respect Hasan honestly?
@@marcin8865what’s wrong with respecting both, they both make good and bad points
Charlie's arguments were as weak as his drip
Yeah I don't know what he was doin with his yeezys....at least I think those are yeezys
@@UgherzCookies those a yeezys????? they look like sketchers
Is there a reason why every other comment is a reference to "drip"
@@lartisteautravail because charlie's drip is as debilitating as his arguments
@@cellamarino I have no idea what that means though
Charlie: Let me finish.
Also Charlie: Keeps interrupting Hasan.
Bruh Charlie did less intervention then hasan I think it’s justifiable when he interrupted hasan
@@L4ck0Ski11 other way around you clown.
charlies got the weirdest fit I've ever seen
really said his 7th grade dance
thats the conservative fit bro, no matter whats above the feet, you gotta have those ugly ass skechers
@@Aris-tc9qy 😂😂😂😂
@@Aris-tc9qy those are yeezys bro
@@dhard yeah but he wears them horribly lmao
This debate moderator is useless.
For those of you wondering why so many are watching these debates now, it is because millions of people are taking an interest in politics for the first time.
A silver lining of the Trump administration.
yeah record number of early ballots submitted and votes casted! hopefully we see this as the new normal. TBH i could careless about the main election, its like 2016 all over again the choice of the lesser of two evils. Local elections can make an impact and that what i tend to focus more on
God Piker is so attractive
i know right, he’s so well spoken and the fact he’s so intelligent makes him so much more attractive 😩
@@oliviavoce4462 cringe
@@JJKjordan you’re cringe 😬
@@jessbrad9446 Tf he did that was cringe?
His ideas aren't....
Hasan did his job, and he is a smart guy. But honestly, this was a terrible debate. The moderator did so little he shouldn't have been there. It was a shouting match, which diluted a lot of the points and information.
I can agree. But lets face it, these two men hate eachother. No matter the moderator, it sill would be a bloodbath
Both these two are idiots and that's the main reason why this debate is trash.
Hasan Piker is retarded.
Why isn't the moderator moderating?
Question what do you want the moderator to do exactly
@@ttrocks1000moderate?
@@FlipKicker by doing what exactly seemed to me they talked majority about policy with the slight jab at each other here and there
Charlies mad because he's a Bluetooth speaker for every generic republican view physically possible and Hasan is just a human who cares about humans.
Uh huh. He cares about people so much that he thinks that America deserved 9/11
@@mjc8556 cherry picking a quote without context is how the dumb people stay dumber. As a nation, us oppressing an entire region helped radicalize the middle east, and we literally created ISIS. Cry more bootlicker.
@@mjc8556 out of context
@@SCVM45 whatever you say Jihad Jerry
@@mjc8556 lmfao cringe dude, I dont like terrorists, but to deny we gave them what they needed to terrorize just tells me you're a bigot.
Im sorry but i cant look at charlie. His face is too smol for his head and it brings me great discomfort
LMAO!
He’s like Jack Ma
"great discomfort" 💀