This is so smart!!! Filmmaker reacts to NIGHTWISH - NOISE music video
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- Wow, this was one of the smartest music videos I've reacted to, and maybe ever seen? What a cool commentary on society, and such a creative style and execution. What are your thoughts on this video? Share below!
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Music video directed by Stobe Harju
Link to original track: • NIGHTWISH - Noise (OFF... @NuclearBlastRecords
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Hi - i was the VFX supervisor on this video. Ideawise, you pretty much caught most of the important themes in the video, i think ;-)
The video was completely shot on green screen. Some of the props are real, but the sets themselves (including the forest) are 100% CGI. Essentially, if someone touches something, that was in the studio, everything else... not.
We used motion control for the camera, so that all those sweeping camera motions could be repeated pixel perfect with the performers switching places and costumes. Most of the main characters are actually played by the band members - for example, the guy with the red phone was Emppu, the guitarist, and the guy taking a selfie while he was mugged is Kai, the drummer. There were only four of the "phone monks" in the Mona Lisa scene - they were used multiple times, shot in multiple passes, and composited together to make the crowd. In many of the more complex shots, i did a rough comp right there on the set to verify that the effect will work, before we moved on to the next setup - an essential step to minimize the number of catastrophes in post production (there will inevitably be plenty of catastrophes in any case on a project as complex as this).
The director, Stobe Harju, has very good post production chops, and understands complex visual effects shots well - in fact, he did a lot of the actual post work himself, and contributed a lot to the practical planning of the more difficult shots. For example, having Tuomas in a green suit was going to be a problem, so he came up with the idea to use a blue suit in the studio, and just colour correct it into a green one in post. The plant was also painted blue. Not a problem anymore. Simple, but borderline genius solution, i'd say. Kudos to Stobe for that.
The post for videos like this is always sort of a nightmare. We had a tiny team of three working on the visual effects (Janne Pitkänen, Stobe Harju and myself), and the sheer amount of work was staggering. Even though we had months to do the work, we were never really truly done - the release date just came and we had to let go. And thus what felt like an endless grind to make it yet a little bit better just stopped ;-)
PS: The low contrast look is something Stobe just likes i think, not sure whether there's much more to it than that. The teal versus reddish tint of the blacks does serve a purpose though - the "dark side" (or reality if you will) is greenish blue, and the "makebelieve" side of how people portray themselves online as a better and happier version of themselves has the reddish tint.
What an amazing job - it is truly one of the more intricate videos we've ever seen, I think! Thanks for sharing all of this. You can really tell you all put so much thought into it! I would love to get more experience with VFX myself as it can really help level up your work which you can see with what Stobe's achieving too. Very smart to have him in a blue suit instead and just correct it.
Honestly I feel like it's always a nightmare becuase you never have enough people, time or money! I am truly curious what the budget was for this video because it sounds like you all spent so much time on it in post.
Love the little detail of the cool/teal vs warm/reddish tones in the blacks - love that kind of visual messaging, and a great level of detail!
I'm sure you have so much more to tell about all of this!
@@manondereeper As a director, it's a clear advantage if you know at least the rudiments of various VFX techiniques. You do not need to be able to actually execute them in practice though, it's plenty if you just understand how they are done so you can make wise decisions along the way.
As far as the budget goes, i do not know the exact numbers, and couldn't really tell even if i did. But for the ballpark, take the number you are thinking of... and divide it by some number between, say, 3 and 10 ;-)
While the budget was decent, even large in Finnish music video terms, a lot, if not majority of the work we did in post was essentially pro bono. Which is not at all uncommon with music videos, at least here in my neck of woods.
Hello Manon [ Manon de Reeper ] ! Nightwish fan here, your musical quest summoned me.
Welcome to the world of symphonic metal! And thank you for checking this legendary band! This music video is the 1st released in advance from their 9th studio album, "Human :||: Nature" (2020), together with Floor Jansen [pronounced Yansen], the 3rd and present female singer of the band. As of course you noticed, this music video is a comment on the toxic excesses of social media in a world oriented towards promoting one's own image above all, distancing oneself from the nature of which we are all a part.
About the instrumental and vocal added parts - it's good to know they recorded their orchestral and vocal back tracks with prestigious institutions as London Philharmonic Orchestra. London's The Metro Voices choir group and London's Young Musicians Children's Choir as their regular partners.
Since this is your first Nightwish reaction, it is my duty to give you the [updated] short history of the band concentrated by Ann Waychoff, one of the biggest Nightwish fan who has since passed away (and I am doing this in her memory):
" Nightwish was started in 1996.They are considered a Symphonic Metal band, with a female main singer. They are from Finland.
Tuomas Holopainen [pronounced Tuo-mas], the keyboard player, composes and writes the lyrics for 95% of their music. [Sami Vanska was the bassist of the band starting with their 2nd studio album, he was with them until 2001. Then Marco Hietala was bassist and vocals, since 2001 to 2020. He recently announced his retirement both from the band and the public life for the next year at least. Then in May 2021 Jukka Koskinen [pronounced Yukka] became the bassist of the band, for the Human :II: Nature tour - and recently, the band announced he became a permanent member] And there is the guitarist Emppu Vuorinen [he also recorded the bass lines for their 1st studio album]. Then there is Troy Donockley from UK who is a multi-instrumentalist and vocals. Jukka Nevalainen [pronounced Yukka] is the drummer. In 2015 due to Jukka's health issues Kai Hahto became the drummer and as of now is a permanent addition.
Nightwish has had three singers. 1st one was Tarja Turunen [pronounced Tarr-ya] (Operatic vocals). She was with them until 2005. The 2nd one was Anette Olzon from Sweden (Poppy, strong vocals). She was with them until 2012.The 3rd and current singer is Floor Jansen, from Netherlands (power, operatic, soprano.....most versatile) - you just heard her.
There are live concerts that you should use depending on what era. From Wishes to Eternity and End of an Era (Tarja), Montreux Festival live 2012 and Exit Festival (Anette), Live at Wacken 2013, Live at Wembley, Live at Tampere, Vehicle of Spirit, Decades live (Floor). I hope this helps.
I want to welcome you to the Nightwish community. I hope you like them enough to continue the journey. Believe me Nightwish will surprise you with their songs. You will never know what to expect. They are unbelievable live. I want to warn you that Nightwish fans are hard core. So be prepared. lol "
For an extended set of suggestion (with links), I posted 2 huge comments in the community tab in my main YT channel: www.youtube.com/@gabriel.bardac/community
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Thank you for that Gabriel!
@@manondereeperI am glad for a positive reaction, seen from your professional perspective (new subscriber here of course). Listening to what you said at the beginning, I think you might like this video, "Making of Islander" th-cam.com/video/ppO5Az5HprI/w-d-xo.html which shows the creative process for the music video for "The Islander", part of the 6th album, "Dark Passion Play" (2007). Not by chance, they also collaborated then with the Finnish film maker Stobe Harju, about whom you read in the end credits of "Noise"
Greetings, from Romania!
Manon is Dutch as Floor
@@gabriel.bardac General Gabriel! 😁🤘
hey gabriel happy easter
The irony of me watching this on my phone right now...
For this one you are allowed to do so
hahaha😜
The phone going red is someone who dares to look up and see the real world, so everyone else turns on him.
When you re-watch the video, notice that every mirror is cracked.
The first half of the video shows how we portray ourselves on social media. The second half shows the untold tales, the parts we keep hidden. If we dare let something slip, we get canceled...or worse.
Your cast of characters:
Floor Jansen (vocals) - helicopter mom who wants to keep child caged
Tuomas Holopainen (keyboards, composer) - "green man", ecology activist that bathes in sludge
Emppu Vuorinen (guitar) - monk that gets stabbed
Marko Hietala (bass, vocals) - "spam king"
Troy Donockley (multi-instrumentalist, vocals) - man on golden throne (and wow, talk about symbolism when he stands up and we see the US Capitol behind him)
Kai Hahto (drums) - monk taking selfies while other monk gets stabbed
Jessica Edstrom (Instagram model and Nightwish superfan) - Instagram model
Emma - child (who is not Floor's actual child; Floor and Hannes keep their kids out of the public eye as much as they can!)
Tuomas said (it's in the comments of the video itself) that it's not a criticism against technology but rather how addicted we can get to this technology.
I had a go at interpreting it, glad you noticed the honeycombs. . . . . . . . . as below !
Noise - interpretation
Well, everyone is on their phone to inflate themselves in the digital world.
Black Mirrors - Black Mirror is a British dystopian science fiction anthology television series.
It examines modern society, particularly with regard to the unanticipated consequences of new technologies.
Troy is king oil/industry, he has a crown of oil derricks, gold platform shoes to be above everyone else, he has a golden throne, literally. He has a public concerned face but actually couldn't care less and throws the flowers away.
Floor is the child pageant mother using her child to promote herself on social media using the child and has the child locked in her cage skirt, the kid just wants to go to the fairground.
Emppu is one of the phone monks dedicated to their phones and cannot even see the Mona Lisa in front of them, he swipes the wrong way not following the herd and is "killed" by his peers while Kai uses that as a selfie backdrop - something which has happened.
Marko is the useless pills for everything salesman, you have to be quick to read what's on the bottles.
Tuomas is the apparent, but two faced greenie, he has signs both for and against nuclear energy and privately bathes in oil from big industry which smothers the duckling you see him nurture before. It's actually warmed veg oil, semolina and food dye. The double visual is to suggest oil field nodding donkey pumps.
Edström is parodying herself by using surgical enhancements and minimal clothes as you can see from a Google search of her.
There are black mirrors everywhere and hexagons on the walls and floors which is the standard basic planning map for cell towers to give maximal reuse of radio spectrum, and it is the format of the hive too.
The child, with a QR code on its arm, is placed in the "phone matrix" early on and gets hearts on the screen for its media efforts; when it dies as an old man the monitor screen goes black and listen carefully, there's the old three note chime of the Windows Bluetooth shut-down melody.
The ending is fairly obvious, get off your phone and go look at the amazing world outside.
Here is a quote from Tuomas about the meaning behind the song:
"Noise is a reminder. It’s some food for thought. We see it more as an optimistic video than pessimistic. Especially the last 10 seconds of the video, when you see the beautiful forest and the landscape, it should fill you with hope the real world is still out there.
This video is not a criticism about technology or cell phones. We love technology. We wouldn’t ever have done this record without technology. We love our cell phones, the Internet and all that, but it’s a criticism for the addiction that these things cause in human beings. ‘Addiction’ is the word. It’s such a shame that we have all these wonderful tools that we can use for the good, to spread true information and to be connected to the world.
We love the idea of social media, like Twitter, that everybody in the world suddenly has a voice; we have a voice. We can immediately get out there.
It’s just a matter of what you put out there. And that’s what the video is all about."
Well done
It's all about social media.
Floor, portrayed as the perfect mum while in reality keeping her daughter imprisoned.
Marko, selling pills, but he can never sell enough.
Troy, sitting ion a throne that is really a toilet.
The drummer whoi captures violence on his phone for likes.
Emppu, who gets beaten up because he isn't like everyone else.
Tuomas, whose image is clean and green, but behind closed doors bathes in dirty oil.
The model, and all she has to do to be seen.
As the chorus lyrics say:
"Your mirror is black only a copy stares back"
When you look at the phone, the very first thing you see is a copy of you staring back from a black mirror.
I love this song!
I'm sure I'm not the first to suggest this, but you have to do Sabaton's "Christmas Truce", a story of a real event.
BTW, Floor sings the outro credits - and you have to watch the roll of the credits.
Thank you so much for joining me for the premiere, it was fun to watch it with you real-time and hear your theories and thoughts!
Really enjoy your thoughts and breakdown on these. I actually learn something from your reactions, which reminds me of time with a friend long ago who was also a filmmaker, so thank you! I would love to learn more about filmmaking but I fear i'm getting a bit too long in the tooth to pick up new careers so I will have to settle for watching. Thanks again!
That final shot always makes my eyes wet because i've been to places like that and people always take what the world has for granted.
Nightwish has actually made an actual movie to accompany their Imaginaerum album. The movie goes by the same name as the album.
Great reaction to Nightwish's Noise. Nightwish is in my top 3 favarite band with Epica and The Warning. All bands have great OMV. I am going to suggest to you to react to some OMVs from The Warning. There music may even more your style!? Anyway, here are the suggestions:
Evolve - The Warning - shot in a garage on 16 iphones and a drone!
Disciple - filmed with fans as actors in factory.
The Enter Sandman - METALLICA cover - The Warning - Black and white
Sick - black and white with a touch of color - I believe the cinematrophic style is called "gritty" or "grunge"
This music video is directed by a Finnish director Stobe Harju, who has directed also some other Nightwish -videos, and most brobably will direct something for the upcoming new album.
This is maybe a little too twitching to my old eyes, but the message is clear and it's good.
Haha, Floor is my eternal queen, and l happens to have a Dutch special friend. Groetjes from Finland! ⛄👍
P.S. The WeekenD's big hit "Blinding lights" music video is also directed by a young Finnish director Anton Tammi.
I thought "Odd place to start with Nightwish" until you laid out your interest and knowedge of Nighwish and Floor.
I'd be interested in your take on the Elan video
I concur on Elan, was looking for this comment (as I knew I was late to the party).
Hello Manon, greetings from UK
I am so glad that you took a look at this video, thank you 😊
The way that I look at Tuomas' character hugging the tree and sitting in a bath of oil reminds me of those celebrities who attend events to give speaches about climate change/save the planet, but use their private jet to get there. So hypercritical
This would be actually kinda cool full lenght film with all these characters. I got chills when i first time heard the Capitol incident happening because i remembered the grim pictures from this video. Also that part where the robotic voice says "Beyond the human horizon, something terrifying sleeos" is chilling too.
This should be good. In fact very good!
Troy the multi-instrumentalist has oil derricks on his crown while sitting on a throne that indeed is a 'throne.' He enjoys the beauty of the roses as long as he can get positive feedback then he tosses them aside.
You gave us the sound in Mono and exposed the easter egg.
In the end of the first baby scene we can hear Floor saying "shut up", but only in mono.
It will normally not be heard at all.
Nightwish and Stobe Harju made movie Imaginaerum over ten years ago. The film was not a commercial success and did not get many viewers in cinemas.
Greetings from a Nightwish fan, Groningen Brigade The Netherlands.
Always good to see/hear a professional respond to a video. I have watched this video many times, but I still discovered new details through your comments. Thanks for that!
And I am one of the Dutch people who discovered Floor and therefore Nightwish through Beste Zangers. Now they are a daily part of my life.
Honeycones --> hive-mind. The hive-mind is a recurring theme in the the last album. People neglecting to think for them self seems to be a waste .. a sin against nature.
Yesssssss! Can't believe I didn't make the link to the hivemind thing. I love that it's so subtle with the pattern in this video.
And nobody noticed, that those people sitting in front of Monna Lisa are half monks, half knights.
Empuu, the guitarist, was watching the "wrong thing" on his phone so they attacked him.
yes, I always interpret it as having different opinion than anybody else
And while someone is being attacked Kai takes a selfie with the assault in the background not attempting to intervene just cares about himself.
You can see it also as a light bulb moment, his new idea and people attack him.
@@ValtteL
In modern societies in many areas of life, an individual should not have a single thought pattern that deviates too much from the general opinion.
"Don't stand out from the rest of the crowd to avoid adversity"
@@jaskau2462 exactly
Thanks, I've seen this many times, but you still pointed out some things I'd missed, thanks to your deep dive. I appreciate your perspective as a filmmaker.
Good reaction. You understand the Lyrics and the Song
If Floor was able to get people to try listening to metal after "Beste Zangers", she was successful in her endeavor. 👍🤟
Hello Manon, greetings from Southern California. Wow, so cool to have discovered your channel. I'm a huge Nightwish fan and have watched many reactors that are vocal coach's, musicians, or singers react to Nightwish, but never a filmmaker have a take on the videos. I love the concept and you have a new subscriber for your efforts. I really loved your take on the video and the goings on within it. If you haven't already, watch it a couple more times to discover more details. Looking forward to more video reviews from you. A very cool one from Nightwish is "Shoemaker.".
Thank you and I'm so glad you enjoyed and that I'm able to add another layer to people's enjoyment of their favorite musicians and artists!
I enjoyed the deep dive, the music and vocals could of been mentioned , Great analysis and reaction !
the North German Division of the Nightwish Army reports !! We are there.salute General @gabriel_bardac.
🇬🇧 Norfolk strapped in for the Nightwish journey 😊 keep them coming
"Floor in her After Forever days": subscribed!
The genuine article for sure! Sub'd
Hell yeah!
I'm really glad you got to this one, Manon.
Brilliant different from other response. Thanks for that.
I loved your insights on the cinematography of this clip. It's really so clever with how the characters all look so happy in their little worlds until things start falling apart & the king Troy ends up residing on a golden toilet, Floor can't get the little girl to cooperate for that prefect photo, Emppu is the outsider & gets turned on but not only that he gets filmed being beaten up by onlooker Kai, Marko pedalling his fat pills that no longer work so he's unhappy with all these boxes of useless stuff & Tuomas the environmental champion guy is really bathing in oil behind the scenes of being so high & mighty.
I'll absolutely be keen to check out more of your videos as there's not heaps of reactors out there who do the video breakdown angle & I'm here for it!
I had a quick look through your past reactions & I didn't see it but if you haven't delved into Rammstein I would LOVE to see you do Deutschland, Zeit & Adieu are my first thoughts but there's so many & some do have behind the scenes so it would give me a kick to see your thoughts on the video then compare your insights with the making of information.
Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺
If you go to a Concert these days, the most people looked at the Band/singer true they're phones,
people don't listen or looked any more, if you want to go, you stand in the middle of people with they're hands up high with their phones in it, when you say something to that person, they say that they will looked at it at home [the concert].
when an accident has happened, people stop and take photos or film it, when you ask "have you called 911" ...no I'm filming it.
People lived to fast these days, they filmed everything but they have no time to see it back, the phones make us addicted to media, internet [you tube/tik tok/Instagram/whatsapp] they don't think themselves.
That is what [i] see at these Clip from Nightwish, Very good made, it makes people think,
You may see something else but that doesn't matter, you think about it and that's in portend.
🤘 FLOOR JANSEN 🤘
🤘 NIGHTWICH 🤘
I love the contrast of that grim creature with the pure and innocent baby in his hand. The baby gets a helmet and dives into our digital social media world, for the rest of his life.
There are so many awesome symbols in this clip. It's NOT being against social media and development, but the addiction many of us have to live in our cell phone and not actually living. Many of us miss so much beauty in life.
Instagram, social pressure, narcissism and hypocrisy. "Have a near LIFE experience"
Bedankt voor je reactie!🤗 (kwaliteit van je camera is top, welke camera heb je gebruikt? De Canon 6D?
Right, I have seen this music video and reactions to it many times. You saw so many new things on it, that I hadn't noticed yet. Thank you! Could you react to the band Poets of the Fall and their video Carnival of rust? It would be so interesting to see, what you can see there ( that I haven't noticed) 😊.
So glad to add an extra layer to your enjoyment of their music and art! I've added Poets of the Fall to my list, thanks for the rec!
Welcome back to Nightwish, i really want to see more of them in this channel, greetings from Colombia
Nightwish Army Italian Division present ! 🤘
There were 8 different paintings by the Leonardo Da Vinci. In fact, they took so long until the last one to make, it's thought that the first one was modeled by the mother of the last one's model.
I put on my headphones and was stunned by the audio quality. It is obvious you can talk the talk, but even more impressive that you walk the walk. Thank you. Glad to be a new subscriber.
Somebody might have suggested already, sorry if i'm repeating. I don't have time to read all the comments. If you like to check more Nightwish's videos there is a cool music video The Islander and there are also behind the scenes video about that.
Behind the scenes video link: th-cam.com/video/ppO5Az5HprI/w-d-xo.html&t
The hexagons represent the hive mind and is also the ideal distribution for cell phone towers - the heart of the technology. Troy's crown is made up of oil derrick rigs which symbolizes oil money buying politicians. There is tons of symbolism in this video to dig into.
And the hexagon of humans trapped before the final scene of nature’s landscape
To this day the image of Floor directing a shout at someone terrifies me.
Now You definitely have to check out The Warning - XXI Blood official music video! Similar theme but different approach. The Warning is a super awesome rock trio from Mexico formed by three sisters when they weren't even teenagers. Now they're taking the world by storm.
Oh yes, good call! I always notice the similarities in the video's story there.
Fun video involving Nightwish and old Finnish movie stars - "Elan"! What Gabriel said! Nightwish Army, Blue Mountains Corps, Australia. Noise - distraction and obfuscation. edit/P.S. you like horror music videos? - Ice Nine Kills - anything from their "The Silver Scream"! or to name one - "Hip To be Scared"
I so respect your process of reactions, as usually I would have seen and heard them numerous times. Everyone seems to miss that they are oil wells on his hat. Keep up the good work. Nice to meet you Manon. I think you would enjoy their music video of PAN.
To me it was a statement of how our "modern lives" in particular, the technology element can appear to be for our improvement, our betterment. But that perception belies a much darker reality, how we can be sucked into an alternative to reality and eventually completely lose track of the wonderous world around us. As a suggestion for another artist video, might I offer this one Falling in Reverse "Watch the world burn" th-cam.com/video/qMXESlny4-I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=n-ptrEfsW_9hQ1Oo
🤗🍒🤘🏻😘 well done Manon and welcome to the Nightwish Family
The most interesting thing is that band members have a laugh here and they poke fun of their own ideals.
Tuomas is very much about enviroment. And in this clip he's playing a environmentalist guy who take photos of himself with trees and stuff only to then literally take bath in oil. Tuomas even goes as far as making his own character take picture of himself with various signs that don't go together at all. The eco-activists don't care about the environment. They just care about PR, fame and money. That's what Tuomas is implying. And since he's one of them - he has every damn right to criticize.
Floor is very dedicated mother. She makes sure not to involve her daughter in her life as a singer at all. That's not her daughter. Yet Floor in this video also pokes fun of mothers who use their children as a way to gain popularity online and cage their children instead of just letting them play and be happy.
Marko admitted openly to having a depression problems. And yet he in this video is playing a guy who sells pills online, claiming those pills will solve any problem. Knowing full well that those very pills don't fix his problems at all. It's also a criticism of the West as a whole as "if you have a problem - just take a pill" attitude is very much present in today's world.
They even went as far as hiring a legit Instagram influencer girl to poke fun of her own profession! XD
Absolutely love all of this. It's good to have that sense of self-reflection - what a great way to have a conversation with your audience.
@@manondereeper Watch the Denver Debacle from Nightwish, Tottaly devoid of any production.
This was very interesting a completely new take on reaction videos, and I really like the new "eyes on things", a lot of details that was new, thank you very much for this!
Since I am a huge Nightwish fan I hope you will do more of their stuff, and I rally looking forward to that. and for getting that I will subscribe ;)
Dear Manon - thoroughly entertaining and expertly analyzed video -I chuckle that whilst I appreciate your "expertise" is visual interpretation, the music seemed to slip your attention. I forgive you for that and I am sure after listening a few times that will further enhance the brilliance of this work It is a DISGRACE that visual video work by this genre of music do not even get passing recognition at crappy annual award jokes like the Grammys etc. Subscribed and will follow your work.
Welcome to Nightwish. So many hidden gems in this video. Also please react to the Nightwish movie Imaginaerum. Also Nightwish has great videos Elan, The Islander, Kiss while your lips are still red. Thank you.
For creepy I can recommend all of Blackbriar's music video's with seance and arms of the ocean at the top.
I concur! We're building up quite a list here...
The Finnish symphonic metal band "Nightwish" ❤ Greetings from Finland .,NIGHTWISH - Shoemaker (Official Lyric Video)
I think the honeycomb my indicate like a hive.🎸🤘Emppu, the guitarist, is the red phone guy, also the selfie guy is Kia the drummer.🎸🤘
I would strongly recommend Imaginaerum movie. Instead of video clip, Nightwish shot a movie for their album.
Awesome reaction thanks! Cool shirt too! End of this video with nature looks almost like beginning of another Nighwish video "Sleeping sun" 😎
I found your analysis of the video impressive, I have seen this clip many times but there were still details that I had not noticed. Like Troy's crown with the phone mast and that the phone screens were blank, you immediately understood all the clues. Your comment about the Mona Lisa being the first "viral" painting was also spot on. A very refreshing approach!
I think you should listen to:Falling in reverse watch the world burn live! I would love to see your reaction.
Wow, sombeby human understanding what is going on. Love y ❤. Greeting from Finland🇫🇮
Interesting you mentioned it looks like a circus because much of an older album of their's had a lot of dark, curcus lmusical themes and visuals, from which the tone of this song is derived. So you almost had it when describing it as 'cheery', when in contrast to Imaginaerum, regular listeners know the theme to be fantastical or energetic, yet dark.
There was a moment when the visuals grew darker and we're presented with Floor and the daughter figure before a misty, dead circus/theme park. Knowing this album came after Imaginaerum, we see the songwriter (Thuomas) impart to this video that his once alive Circus--or mind, has grown darker under the veil of phone screens and technology. And that is one of the core concepts of this album.
The cage dress looked like a powerful visual of the term , 'Cone of Influence', later shown to us as a cone-shaped megaphone. I think its in this scene where there is no distinguishing from the mother figure and her social media.
And Thuomas played the part of the Viral Treehugger loving on a rubber ducky while making his spcial media posts. Away from that virtue signaling he is seen again, admiring the ducky (his social media fame) while himself is thoroughly polluted both spiritually and physically (thrashing in the tub of tar before an apocalyptic pollution scenescape behind him.
I really enjoyed this reaction video abd your take on this, thank you.
good reaction .. i have subscribed
Really, really interesting reaction video, totally different to the norm. I think you absolutely nailed it.
Cheers! Glad you enjoyed it!
Nightwish - Noise was the best music video of 2020 for me. The honeycomb definitely symbolizes the hive mind and if someone has trouble figuring out what is happening, it could be a good clue to unlocking the rest of the video for them. Stobe Harju also directed the film Imaginaerum, or simply "the Nightwish movie" to some. I personally think it is the best movie made about its particular subject, which is not "about Nightwish," but I will not give it away. If you find the movie sometime, I think you'd enjoy it as long as you don't go into it expecting a horror film, which it is not. 🔥🤘🔥
What the video is telling us (imho) is how people are telling us lies and distort reality or even create an alternate reality. There are a lot of people (leaders) that tell all these great stories that sound great and make you feel good, but in reality these stories often turn out to be untrue. This video is about that deceival. In the first half of the video you see all the band members trying to make themselves look good, but in the second half you get to see what goes on behind the scenes, i.ow. the reality. And then reality turns out to be quite different from what they are trying to make you believe. Floor portrays herself as the ideal mom with the ideal child, but in the end the child is not happy and and the mom is not so ideal after all. Marco sells these great pills, but in the end he is unhappy with his job because he knows that all these pills are not actually helping the people. Tuomas is the environmentalist, but in the end he bathes in oil while you can see the polluting industry through his window. Meanwhile he ignores all this and very selfishly playes with his rubber ducky. The sexy model seems very pretty, but behind the scenes she is not so great-looking. She needs a lot of work to look decent and she even uses fillers and such. Troy presents himself as some sort of king which people adore, but in the end his throne is only a toilet. I feel that the use of color in this video resembles the unseen truth or reality, while the absence of color resembles the fact that we are not able to see the truth or reality for what it is. There is color in the parts where the band members are showing themselves off, but these colors are saturated and look unnatural. To me it seems that this resembles the fact that these stories are usually very polarized. It's either black or white and there is usually no room for nuances or debates. This is shown through the use of saturated and unnatural colors. The last shot of the colorful sky does have lots of shades and colors, and thus represents reality in all it's nuances. The fact that the child grows up under the hood resembles the fact that lots of people live their lives being disconnected from reality. The heart symbol that appears in the screen on the outside of the helmet indicates that the child likes what it sees on the inside. So it appears to be happy to live in a sea of lies, unable to see reality. The scene where the screen of one of the monk turns red resembles group behaviour and shows what happens when one member of the group expresses an opinion that is different than the group opinion. The group does not tolerate different opinions. Again it's either black or white. Either you are with the group or you are against it, in which case you are the enemy. In the end the video is not about social media or smartphones, but it is more about how they are used. To distribute so much noise that reality largely is covered up and remains unseen. Noise. The noise of lies.
UK Army popping in for a great first reaction
You might really like the Lyric videos from the last album. Very cool.
Pan! 👌🏻😊
Tell me you've done Rammsteins Deutschland video. It's really something else.
considering your shirt do you like them (like Home Back)
but a swedish band they toured with is Arch Enemy which you can check on videos from and another band is Amarthent who has some good songs with (both singers played together and saved a gig for NW before Floor joined)
You are so insightful, this was a commentary on how Social media has turned our world to shit!!!!
Thanks for doing this one! I would suggest _The_ _Islander_ next from Nightwish, partly because it's a great video by the same director (although it does not have a pointed topical message) but also because there is quite a decent-sized chunk on post-production in the Making Of. Still not as much as you would like, but they do at least get a chance to talk about their decision-making!
Loving a more extensive making-of! It's so great to be able to listen in on some of the creative conversations, though I do understand it when those aren't recorded because it's also a vulnerable place to be in. But it's what I love most - how people collectively come to the final product. Thanks for recommending The Islander!
Great reaction to this incredible video from Nightwish
The KING's crown is made of oil drilling towers. Because everything in our world is ruled by that industry. But it's a shitty throne to sit on, not a golden one.
Also the tree-hugger can change policy according to what's popular for the moment. The signs shift quickly from recycle to carbonplants.
Much Love to you and Ukraine
💙💛💙🌻🌻🌻
Look around you. What can you point to that was not made possible for your consumption were it not for Fossile Fuels. …your comment fits the video subject matter perfectly.
You believe what your phone tells you. Draining your energy to search out facts and truth.
But Hey….the thing that makes Nightwish so wonderful is Floor and the band can even bring us together.
Greetings
from Seattle (and
soon to be Idaho :) )
Hoi manon! Nightwish heeft zelf een film gemaakt. Qua verhaal en visuals echt geweldig. Acteerwerk is wat minder. Maar wel het kijken waard, vanwege de visuals. De film is directed door Stobe Harju en heet Imaginaerum. Als je 'm kan vinden, mooie voor het paasweekend 😊
I love your shirt!! Jinjer rules But I love Nightwish since so long ago and they have a part of my heart.
Noise and it's video came out in 2020, so before the attack on the capitol happened.
This was released in 2020 prior to the covid lockdown prior to the release of Human:Nature album and tour.
So the Whitehouse was not about the 2021 insurrection.
Also if you liked this watch the official videos of Shoemaker Tribal and Procession. Incredibly thought provoking.
Such an interesting reaction and fresh perspective, thank you!
Cheers, glad you enjoyed!
Nice, more Nightwish music please :)
and, have you done Lorna Shore - Pain Remains Trilogy ?
High Quality musicvideos with an harsh effect on emotions, and maybe in the ears if you are not familar with DeathCore music :) (i wasn´t before Lorna Shore, but they teached me)
Metal makes me happy 🤘
Poets of the Fall - Carnival of Rust (Official Video w/ Lyrics) Try this
"Rammstein- Deutschland" is a pretty cool video if you're interested.
I think I have mentioned Saltatio Mortis video Finsterwacht once... or twice... or...? 😁
Great reaction, I'd say you nailed it 🤘
Cheers!
First time on your channel... And loving it! I started out with reactions on singing technique and life as a roadie, and your education as a filmmaker is such a nice addition to it. I love to learn and you're definitely sharing lots of interesting info that otherwise I wouldn't know. Being from the same country is also a nice thing, just like you mentioned about knowing Floor being Dutch as well.,. I see that Gabriel has found you to guide you through the Nightwish music. In addition to that, I'd like to reccoment a video from the band Ghost, and their song Cirice. I love it, and I'd like to know what you think... You definitely have a new follower 🙂
Yup, NW were prescient about the Capitol riot when they released this video in early 2020 ;) Sorta like The Simpsons (in which series NW featured btw). A great clip with some pretty straightforward critique but also some lovely light-hearted irony ('Tuomas as a self-absorbed tree hugger is hilarious).
As to semiotics & the responsibility of filmmakers, that's a good one. Maybe take a good look at the images the public got treated to re: that so-called Capitol "attack" and not take the surface image/first impressions at face value. Some may point out the obvious staging of that event and how social media are used as a tool to sow division & societal unrest. As this NW clip shows: the medium may change but the message still is that the world is but a stage. "Out out brief candle.." or zombiephone backlight. Same difference 🙃 Cheers from Amsterdam! 🤘
For some reason I thought the video was more recent because of the capitol picture! Wow. I keep being surprised!
@@manondereeper W/o any prior knowledge, I'd probably have assumed the same and the Capitol/political reference still stands in a more general way. So it was a good catch regardless. Tuomas has since made several statements about the clip and how it's not simply an all out condemnation of smartphones or social media. It's about the way ppl use the possibilities of information technology.
No discussion abt the way the medium itself has been used as an instrument of control or how it's not simply the public's fault (blaming the victim), considering the fact that a great number of social scientists/behavioural engineers have contributed tt desing of social media to shape them into perfect tools for social conditioning. Not a peep either about the health hazards of these devices. They won't go there, like barely any in the industry will.
They're a band & as such they cannot neglect the fact that they're part of the music/entertainment industry. Their critique will always remain "consumable" if only to not scare away too many fans. Same goes for filmmakers of course. Some "statements" are allowed, but anyone who digs a bit deeper won't have much of a career, certainly not in the La-La Land mainstream. /rant & Groetjes!
@@manondereeper Praw! It is not just the Capitol, but the combination with the golden toilet bowl in front of it: indeed Trump times!
The bubbling wall is representing internet data🤓
The mirror in the background is mentioned in the lyrics:
"From the sunless world
Your mirror is black, only a copy stares back"
(The mirror is your cell phone/tablet etc)
The woman sitting in the chair getting botoxed is the same as the fotomodel in red, but before being transformed to a beautiful diva.
The message of this song is also in the lyrics:
"Beyond the human horizon
Something terrifying sleeps"
And in the last shot: Outside this madness there is still the real world (fitting the theme of this album: the universe, earth and us)
@@zbygniewprlwytzkofsky6614 Tweeting from a golden toilet is a detail a lot of people miss, but once you see it...
A few semiotics - nice to know name of that now - I noticed.
The circus theme likely was a reference to "media circus".
The beehive pattern throughout the video might be a reference to the Internet "hive minds" that form on social media.
The two gas masked individuals covered in oil in the tub are mimicing the movement of an oil drill.
Thanks for your analytics. Really enjoy this. I would like to see you analyse Poets of the fall: Carnival of rust official music video. Anyway thanks and you just got one more follower. 😘
Autenticity, that is what we are get rit of from the start on. Not only in this time period but also back in time. It looks like Nightwish is trying to make the people more awake with the connection of emotions and the crule reality in this world where continuing life is the most important workout. Froud Telos more how human is always in the grip of how to have the most succes to reproduce yourself to not die and cut of your offspring.
Fantastic video of NW. LOVE them 😃. BUT as a filmmaker you MUST react to Rammstein's videos. Yes IT IS a MUST. Nothing is better, nothing more creative. Best one to start is Rammstein "Deutschland". Unbelievable. 🤩🤩🤩
Good catch with the crown! Cell tower masts.
I wonder if the hexagon, beehive, is a reference to the "Hive Mind"?
Tuomas the composer, tree-hugging.
Floor entrapping the child.
Watch the background change from fairground (Chernobyl?) to a refinery.
Emppu the guitarist, lit in red, Kai the drummer doing a doom selfie.
Troy getting off his "Throne", revealing a toilet (throne is another word for it).
Marko the bass player, surrounded by pills.
Floor doesn't need a megaphone (mega-phone).
The model doing head-banging, in tribute to Floor!
So much symbolism packed in, it's amazing!
For me the message is " a near life experience"
My favorite part is the environment fighter who was against nuclear power due to feelings of fear but then turned around when they noticed that co2 was bad.
And the rules to save the climate only apply to others while they bath in oil.
Also, my personal guess is that the idea of this work comes from concerts where people pay to see them live but still hade the mobile phone in the face so they see it all in the mobile screen.
NW has nothing against mobile phones but they are for helping the user, not owning the user.
Here are few band and songs with with some videos I enjoy from a film perspective (some are higher budget):
Lord of The Lost - Viva Vendetta
Shireen - So Human of You
Visions of Atlantis - Nothing Lasts Forever
Scardust - 'Evolution of the Disney Princess - but she's METAL' (single set, single take)
or 'Concrete Cages'
Avenged Sevenfold - Nobody
Kamelot - Liar Liar
Unleash The Archers - Northwest Passage
Orphaned Land - Like Orpheus
Also if you ever do an anime reaction I would suggest 86 Eighty-Six
I'd recommend another Finnish music video, "Carnival of rust" by the Finnish band Poets of the Fall. Based on this reaction, pretty sure you're gonna like reacting to it, if you haven't seen it before. :D
My favourite sadly hilarious detail in the video is the toilet seat as the kings throne. Don't know if you missed this or just didin't make a comment
Yes - people live in virtual reality nowadays. They are introduced to it as babies and they often stay in it until the end of their lives. This video brings up few of the many painful truths behind that. At the same time people claim how other people - youtubers, gamers, instagram models etc live fake lives, but "usual people" surround themselves with staged images of themselves and people around them. They try to control how they look to others and sadly often believe what others have staged for them to see. It used to be "fake it until you make it", now one can just keep faking it. This is possibly humankinds biggest fundamental problem after greed. These two parts of human nature are responsible for most of our problems - wars, global warming, overpopulation. One can pick any of our favourite apocalypses and it all leads to greed and vanity.
"One can be truly free only when he stops searching himself from other peoples opinions."
"There is enough for everybody's needs, but not for everybody's greed."
Great reaction. Anyway, can i request your reaction to superb band from japan?
The band is call "Lovebites"
They all The Beautiful Queens Metal band right now in the earth.
They are really really World class musicians. Phenomenal.
And they have a lot die hard fans too.
The song is "Judgement day"
Hope you check out, and can enjoy it too. Big thanks🙏