Asus are junk ,overpriced, 2500$ and performance are terrible but Asus are known for high prices and shitty performance ;Acer are known for lower prices but shitty performance
I don't know why ASUS keep sending G14 in $2500 configurations to reviewers...it really hurts their price competition. Best buy has them for $1649 for 6700S and $1899 for 6800S. But anyway, thanks for the review. Were you limiting the CPU power manually? Other reviewers were showing the CPU drawing more than 70W sustained and getting up to 96C. I like that your version only goes up to 45W where it is still efficient and keeps the temps down to 80C.
No, there was no artificial power limiting for our testing. We tested in the default 'Performance' laptop power mode. This allows the CPU to go up to around 45W sustained. Using the 'Turbo' profile does allow the CPU to push higher power if the GPU is not being used. However, I don't necessarily see the value of running close to 100C on a 14" laptop and using the Ryzen 9 6900HS so far outside of its efficiency window (AMD specifically highlight that Zen 3+ Mobile has been designed for efficient performance). Especially because the performance, cooling, and noise were very good at 45W sustained on the CPU. Luke
@@taelee347 It probably wouldn't be a significant amount of performance loss because of the way the power-frequency curve generally works for AMD Zen architecture. It'd run cooler and quieter though. But then again, the 45W mode was reasonable for noise and thermals. I'm fully expecting to see other HS-spec laptops running at 35W, so hopefully we get samples of those in the near future. Luke
I could be wrong but i think its more to do with the mode in armour crate software. Even though manual seems higher config than turbo, manual only allows cpu wattage to go upto 45W at most if i remember correctly, turbo on the other hand can tone down the wattage given to graphics if necessary to further boost the cpu clock speed and thus consuming way more power.
@@zunairmushtaq5888 yep, the battery life and display and the efficiency of the Ryzen 6000 can perform really well with your uses, but I would recommend the M1 macbooks or the upcoming M2 macbooks, it's more affordable and performs better with your uses
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For people in the USA who want this laptop... This thing is a Best Buy exclusive for now. ASUS - ROG Zephyrus 14" WQXGA 120Hz Gaming Laptop - AMD Ryzen 9 - 16GB DDR5 Memory - AMD Radeon RX 6800S - 1TB PCIe 4.0 SSD - Moonlight White $1,899.99 Or ASUS - ROG Zephyrus Advantage Edition 14” 120Hz Gaming Laptop - AMD Ryzen 9- 6900HS - 16GB Memory - Radeon RX 6700S - 1TB SSD $1,649.99 For it's size, battery life, and performance on offer, it's pretty neat. --------------------------------------- Ryzen 9 6900HS 35W CinebenchR23 Multi - 12,821 Single - 1,575
@@Rev0ltTTV I can't say whether or not if it will stay that way but for right now, and probably for the next 3-6 months at least, it's going to be a Best Buy only thing for those of us here in the USA.
Great review of this remarkable laptop Luke 🍻👍🥰. It’s great to see the amazing mobile gaming and production performance of these newer slimline, compact ultra book designs …. Truely awesome! 😎 👍 I agree the NVME cheap out on a slower and lower capacity storage drive for such a professionally priced laptop of this caliber!
Nice balanced review, good to see default settings used giving accurate comparisons. Be interested to know the price comparison of the Intel laptop with the additional cost of the eGPU setup, how much more was the complete Intel system?
Thanks for the feedback! We don't have full details on the ASUS Intel+eGPU system yet (as Intel 12th Gen laptop availability is still limited). But we will be doing a review on it soon, so keep an eye out for that. Luke
I still have the Legion 5 with the Ryzen 7 4800H, and I'm still very happy with it. I'm not a gamer, I use it as a Linux workstation (and it works really well). I'll get a Ryzen 7 6800H laptop once I know Linux will work on it (without too many issues).
So, i'm looking for a laptop that can handle editing large scenes in Blender. Lots of objects, high subdivisions on models, lots of polygons, etc. The laptop will not be used for gaming. I don't care about the scene render-time as I will be using a render-farm to render the scenes. I don't care about the physical size of the laptop. The laptop will be plugged in 99% of the time so battery performance doesn't really matter either. I know it sounds like i should just get a Desktop, but I like to easily move around my house to different locations instead of being hunkered in one dedicated computer room. And I'm open to buying a laptop that is a few years old if the used price can get me under $1,000.. Just something that can handle editing and modeling large complex scenes in blender without needing to render them on the device. What type of (probably used) laptop or desktop replacement would you recommend for this specific use-case?
@@OccultDemonCassette Not really sure about Blender/rendering. What would your minimum GPU requirement me? An Nvidia RTX 3060? An 1660TI? Something like the AMD RX 6600m? Off the top of my head, I'd probably say go for a Legion 5 with the Ryzen 7 5800H and Nvidia 3060. You could probably pick one up brand new for around $1,000 - but you'd probably have to spend more upgrading the memory and M2 drive.
No Thunderbolt4... but Thinderbolt3 is fine with me! Still incredibly fast and will support dual monitors through a dock. Now if Asus can just get those USB4 drivers shipped.
Still waiting for a reviewer to open the thing and have a look at the guts :) And I'm concerned the warm air at the bottom of the screen might be an issue in the long run.
Stop including McAfee. Smarter words may have been spoken, but I haven't heard them. 😁 I'd have to think that in any higher end laptop most potential consumers would happily pay an extra few dollars to get a clean Windows out of the box with the extra peace of mind knowing it will stay clean. Laptops are a convenience item most of the time, no bloatware would surely add another level of convenience to the product making it a more attractive proposition.
@@KitGuruTech You aren't. We all get upset when McAfee shows up on any computer we touch. I always end up removing that software. Especially after it was discovered that AV software has been bitcoin mining for these AV companies while installed. Lol.
So, i'm looking for a laptop that can handle editing large scenes in Blender. Lots of objects, high subdivisions on models, lots of polygons, etc. The laptop will not be used for gaming. I don't care about the scene render-time as I will be using a render-farm to render the scenes. I don't care about the physical size of the laptop. The laptop will be plugged in 99% of the time so battery performance doesn't really matter either. I know it sounds like i should just get a Desktop, but I like to easily move around my house to different locations instead of being hunkered in one dedicated computer room. And I'm open to buying a laptop that is a few years old if the used price can get me under $1,000.. Just something that can handle editing and modeling large complex scenes in blender without needing to render them on the device. What type of (probably used) laptop or desktop replacement would you recommend for this specific use-case?
Have the Lenovo Legion Slim 7 version of this laptop and love it. What they don’t tell you is you can disable the RX6800s in realtime and still game with the RDNA2 APU which is perfect for 1080p gaming and emulation gaming! What this does is significantly help with battery life as you game with slightly less demanding titles. Thats where the AMD Advantage benefits with this model. It's very efficient. The Legion is better due to all aluminum and larger 16 inch screen
The 3070 laptop doesn't have a QHD screen unfortunately (and plugging into a monitor changes the performance comparison due to the PCIe bandwidth). I don't think the 5900HX is bottlenecking the 3070 at those frame rates, though. The 5900HX is a very competent CPU with good arhcitecture for gaming. Luke
Would really like to see this laptop compared vs the RTX 3070 Razer Blade 14 (2021 model). They are fairly close in terms of price and screen resolution, so the real difference for me comes down to gaming benchmarks and screen quality.
@@Olie956 What does Microsoft have to do with it? Microsoft doesn't make the laptop, and both laptops run Windows. Also, I've usually heard that Razer tends to be more conservative when it comes to temperatures by throttling performance a bit more compared to ASUS, which is not necessarily a bad thing. In any case, I want to see real tests and direct comparisons--not some random guy's opinion in the TH-cam comments who thinks that Microsoft somehow makes Razer laptops run hotter....
@Tooki We asked for a sample of that Razer laptop as it's basically a direct competitor. We couldn't get one in time for this review due to lack of availability. But we are still hopeful that we will be able to review the Razer unit soon. Fingers crossed. Luke
@@kumarsalib722 my complaint is they sell the 8x8 versions. so the max will only be 24GB. i thought dual channel for ddr5 was internal now, so no need for two sticks. why not just ship a single 16GB and leave the slot empty?
I got mine for £1300 very happy with it, just the temps scare me a bit but then again i have a desktop thats water cooled (well the cpu is) and never goes above 70 lol
Yes the trackpad is an improvement versus previous G14. It is low-friction, cold to the touch, and has a shine to it. So I believe it is likely a glass top layer. Luke
Can you check performance on newest bios ? I cannot sustain 45 watts and my r23 multicore is in the mid 11000 range. I feel they reduced pl2 for 308 bios and am trying to find a rip of shipping bios to downgrade.
QHD is no go. Its a 128 bit memory bus. Its infact a lower powered Desktop 6600. Both navi 23 with a 28 CU, 32 MB Infinty cache and everything same. And the the RX 6600 is for 1080p.
RX 6800S inside this laptop is 32CU. And the frequencies it runs at are quite reasonable. QHD is definitely usable at even above 60 FPS, but it will struggle to get near the 120Hz refresh rate without reducing below Ultra IQ. The gaming B-roll in the video is QHD+ in general (60+ in FC6, over 60 FPS in Shadow of the Tomb Raider, well over 60 FPS in F1 2020). Luke
2500$ for laptop which are in 50% of games slower then twice cheaper last year Lenovo 5800h+rtx 3060 which are dirty cheap now and available after months of shortages and relative high prices before, its now 1100-1200$/euro (15,6inch 165hz) and its worth it when i saw performance vs this Zephyrus and 6800s which are official on 3070 level more
@@malathomas6141 Lenovo ones 130 watts, its not faster in every game but in 30-40% and there is 85-95wats 3070 too , i think that Acer are known most for low wattage gpus and because of that he have something lower prices but its clickbait because they show only it is 3070 but not wattage and peoples think its 3070 so its fast and much better and in the same time something cheaper but reality are other story
@@Mr11ESSE111 Is the Lenovo you are referring to a 15.6" unit? If so, it's not really a valid comparison to criticise the 14", portable ASUS for not keeping up or being cheaper. Luke
@@DeepteshLovesTECH performance are,small are heavilly overpriced and dont have what larger have and this small ones only reminds on tablets with keyboards
As I want mobility and battery life, I like the Rembrandt 6nm APU but I built a desktop and just play older games on my laptop; this machine looks nice but I'd wait for value options perhaps in the 15W U class as I cannot justify that outlay for a "toy" 😉😉
@@KitGuruTech My Mum's using an Richland AMD A10 APU laptop I gave her after her desktop packed up and she didn't want it fixed. The old AMD was still able to run Stellaris until the 3.0 release, so my experience with AMD APU is pleasant unlike my Haswell/Nvidia 860M gaming laptop, where Nvidia shortly claimed was a Win8 not Win10 box and dumped support, denying me the non-WHQL features. That bad experience steered me back towards self built desktop once I was based at home again.
@@RobBCactive "my Haswell/Nvidia 860M gaming laptop, where Nvidia shortly claimed was a Win8 not Win10 box and dumped support, denying me the non-WHQL features." ??
@@Olie956 Not entirely sure when we will see review samples or on-sale units, but I would expect it to be in the coming weeks. It looks like later in March should be good for availability of new AMD/Intel laptops. Perhaps some of the delay from the Chinese New Year a few weeks ago? Luke
That really depends on the power allocation for the GPU. The whole laptop GPU naming convention is very awkward right now, because so much of the performance is influenced by the power budget, not necessarily the underlying GPU components or rank. Luke
@@mike_t_007 I ended up going for the base Asus TUF A16 (Ryzen 7735HS + RX 7600S) since getting 95% the CPU/iGPU, 20% extra battery life, and 20% extra gaming performance than the G14 6800S for almost a third the price was too hard to pass up. I do wish that keyboard switches were a bit more more tactile like Zenbooks and the screen was a bit sharper -- probably cuz I'm used to both on my QHD LG Gram 17, but it's nothing to complain about at $682. *RIGHT NOW* Best Buy actually has the 7700S version of the TUF A16 (5-10% faster gaming) listed for $680 flat so I would snag it if you can. Otherwise I would hawk eBay or check back around October/November for similar deals then.
@@mike_t_007I ended up going for the base Asus TUF A16 (Ryzen 7735HS + RX 7600S) since getting 95% the CPU/iGPU, 20% extra battery life, and 20% extra gaming performance than the G14 6800S for almost a third the price was too hard to pass up. I do wish that keyboard switches were a bit more more tactile like Zenbooks and the screen was a bit sharper -- probably cuz I'm used to both on my QHD LG Gram 17, but it's nothing to complain about at $682. *RIGHT NOW* for the next 12 hours B.e.s.t.B.u.y. actually has the 7700S version of the TUF A16 (5-10% faster gaming) listed for $680 flat so I would snag it if you can. Otherwise I would check back between late-October to mid-December for similar deals then.
@@mike_t_007 I ended up going for the base Asus TUF A16 (Ryzen 7735HS + RX 7600S) since getting 95% the CPU/iGPU, 20% extra battery life, and 20% extra gaming performance than the G14 6800S for almost a third the price was too hard to pass up. I do wish that keyboard switches were a bit more more tactile like Zenbooks and the screen was a bit sharper -- probably cuz I'm used to both on my QHD LG Gram 17, but it's nothing to complain about at $682. *RIGHT NOW* for the next 12 hours the 7700S version of the TUF A16 (5-10% faster gaming) is on sale $680 flat so I would snag it if you can. Otherwise I would check back between late-October to mid-December for similar deals then.
@@mike_t_007 I ended up going for the base Asus TUF A16 (Ryzen 7735HS + RX 7600S) since getting 95% the CPU/iGPU, 20% extra battery life, and 20% extra gaming performance than the G14 6800S for almost a third the price was too hard to pass up. I do wish that keyboard switches were a bit more more tactile like Zenbooks and the screen was a bit sharper -- probably cuz I'm used to both on my QHD LG Gram 17, but it's nothing to complain about at $682. Actually, you can snag it for the same price today for the next 12 hours and likely again between Halloween and Christmas.
I'm disappointment by false adveritsement of G14 2020 model 2060 rtx ryzen 9 I can barely play AAA games from 2020 the labtop overheads and its handi cap with a few issues no camera, LED keyboard change no micro sd slot, it has been a nice portable labtop and I use it for my everyday use loving the cover matrix but since I only bought the black model I'm upgrading for G14 white 6800s model. I only need a portible labtop for gaming and razer is my other interest but I'm ROG fan thanks for the review
Something all big reviewers don't mention , yes its a gaming laptop but business use and productivity this laptop failed miserably and here's why. No print screen button for alt+print screen screen shots, amd gpu's are not compatible with citrix workspace vdi's i had issues where the mouse cursor disappeared into excel spreadsheets (there's a workaround to amend the register key) , the vdi kept showing pink and green squares and kept crashing at times. The heat being directed to a glued bezel is not a great innovate idea , it will fall apart in the long term, the enter key is awkwardly cut short with the hash key above it. The charge cable is shockingly short from the connector to the heavy brick. The realtek microphone array would not work with microsoft teams, but once I installed armoury crate selecting ASUS own microphone with silencing then it worked. for gaming yes this laptop is excellent, for business no.
@@malathomas6141 He said the power reading on the following test for the CPU was combined CPU + GPU, which isn't correct. In other reviews, that CPU used far more power. But I guess in performance mode, according to other reviews, it will fall to a sustained 50w.
@@Slimgosa I be playing at work with a 1000 watt converter working in the oilfield easy money and it keeps me entertained but they stole mine but I will spend that 2500 without a doubt the graphics are very smooth
Let's be real, the average school aged person from High School to College more than likely isn't buying this to play "Video Games". A College Student may get it with the help of their parents for school and play and more than likely a Engineering/Computer Programming Major. Other than that it'll be your working 9-5, tech aficionado who makes enough to buy it out right on has good enough credit to get it from a major retailer.
They probably didn't bother putting hdmi 2.1, because in the real world if you buy this laptop, you'd never be able to take advantage on 2.1 to begin with, and certainly not doing 4k/120. Plus its hardware would support a 1080p-1440p monitor with FreeSync so not needed. Important to explain things like that instead of just saying...its disappointing without facts or reason as to why.
yeah...smart shift just marketing talk for "shared cooling system max cooling tdp of 120w" thus 30w cpu 90w gpu...and potential for more cpu in theoretical benchmarks or pure cpu/workloads. AS the cooling is shared and gpu is not taking load. They tried this in my zeph g15 with a 65w cpu that would "be capable of competitive performance" for pure cpu loads...and shift load with trying to max out GPU wattage to 100w as it would cut cpu down....ironically it would stlil run HOT AF at 20/25/30/35w on cpu...bc most games want to push a single core/thread to as high as possible and even a single core at 4ghz+ is just not possible i with the 5900 monolithic cpu. Hell even the 5700g cpu is yielding 3070 frames with 3080 gpus. If a 3070 was with a zen3 cpu or a 5ghz intel vs the monolithic apu from amd with a 3080. So even on a desktop with maximized cooling and the potential to push 4400mhz ram with a non zen amd monolithic cpu....it means nothing from the inherent lack of l cache compared to zen3 and the r9 zen3. ALL this would you pay the "price" talk could easily be silenced if they tarted releasing 144hz 3ms pure APU laptops for ppl that want to work/game around the 500-600$ price point in a thin/ light formfactor. Being better than an mx450 off the apu/igpu....ppl could easily play moba/card games/arpgs/looter/pve games affordably and still have a work/school system all in one. With good bettery life granted the size they offer. Ive been saying this/waiting for this for years now but were finally getting to this point...also with the advent of wifi6 and nodes/ethernet hubs off these nodes...you can easily stream a main system/beefy gpu and bring an apu laptop like that into another room and play hack n slash rpgs/sports games etc on a larger 4k display in an other room...or set up a racing sim setup in another room...while using your main rig to do the actual rendering/work but still having a system/laptop to interface with instead of having a dedicated racing sim "RIG+ pc" ontop of a gaming pc for "games". Its a cost effective alternative given proper ISP/Main router you can actually stream entire steam libraries per ex i was playing hunter call of the wild on my 4k tv from a laptop while streaming it off my main desktop. As well as fallen order and connecting my controller via BT to the laptop and on the couch while my main desktop was in my room running the game LAG free so we really are "GETTING there". DAMN shame about the strix g15 advantage editon and the various returns due to shoddy liquid metal application leaking and grounding on the motherboard/gpu socket and frying gpus entire boards/systems as bestbuy had an "open box" carousel of the G15 advantage i almost got an open box one for 1289$ then saw a major exclaimer that they were just re-circulating laptops ASUS didnt validate with warranty/repair/rectify. Which totally put me off Asus any liquid metal laptop/asus option...and concepts like "amd advantage" or smartshift. I can only expect these things to get worse as thermal paste degrades and inherent voltages rise and tolerances widen. IDK how ppl can even recommend a laptop with liquid metal as if the ppl using htem will only have 2-3 hour uptimes daily. Or only be seeing idle loads and basic content consumption through the systems.
I think they've put a stupid combination of parts inside. You've got a processor that's too high spec for the thermal design, should have stuck with a 6800h, and then youve got a GPU and screen miss match. A 1600p display with a 6800s is stupid. The 6800s is made for 1080p. At 14 inches you could have got away with a fast 1080p screen. Dropping resolution in game on a screen that has a huge higher native resolution always looks fuzzy. A better balance of parts would have been the 6800h processor, and a 6800s paired with a fast 1080p screen.
6800s is probably the worst gpu put this year into laptops, the reason is it's way more underpowered than it should be, it's like they were specifically aiming for better battery life for the trade off of the performance. all this laptop is good at compared to other line up or agasint nvidia and intel is efficiency, now if you are for that than good if not than it sucks bcos literally anything else than g14 will give you better performance this year, so that means if you dont go with all out amd build
@@rishirajsaikia1323 yes that is true, but you want to compare this years models and bank for the buck instead of last year's. but then again g14 might probably be the cheapest one you will find with 6700s equiped otherwise you will pay instead of 2k 2.3k which is then very close to m16
whats the point of this foolness not everyone is rich..... weres my 700-800 usd laptop with non outed tech? i need a good cpu even its middle say 6cores and a way to plug it a gpu otherwise im going full xbox s, tired of this ripp offs and the stapid hype
So - have AMD and ASUS got a winner here - whats your feelings on the design,. hardware and performance? would you pay the price?
Asus are junk ,overpriced, 2500$ and performance are terrible but Asus are known for high prices and shitty performance ;Acer are known for lower prices but shitty performance
@@Mr11ESSE111 you seem happy lol
@@Mr11ESSE111 The laptop is $1,650 USD here in the US. For it's size and performance, it's fantastic.
@@Olie956 so if smaller its more costly
@@theonlyredspecial happy like Cappy
I don't know why ASUS keep sending G14 in $2500 configurations to reviewers...it really hurts their price competition.
Best buy has them for $1649 for 6700S and $1899 for 6800S.
But anyway, thanks for the review. Were you limiting the CPU power manually? Other reviewers were showing the CPU drawing more than 70W sustained and getting up to 96C.
I like that your version only goes up to 45W where it is still efficient and keeps the temps down to 80C.
No, there was no artificial power limiting for our testing. We tested in the default 'Performance' laptop power mode. This allows the CPU to go up to around 45W sustained. Using the 'Turbo' profile does allow the CPU to push higher power if the GPU is not being used. However, I don't necessarily see the value of running close to 100C on a 14" laptop and using the Ryzen 9 6900HS so far outside of its efficiency window (AMD specifically highlight that Zen 3+ Mobile has been designed for efficient performance). Especially because the performance, cooling, and noise were very good at 45W sustained on the CPU. Luke
@@KitGuruTech Thanks for the reply. How much performance would we lose if we run the CPU at 35W as AMD says its nominal TDP is?
@@taelee347 It probably wouldn't be a significant amount of performance loss because of the way the power-frequency curve generally works for AMD Zen architecture. It'd run cooler and quieter though. But then again, the 45W mode was reasonable for noise and thermals. I'm fully expecting to see other HS-spec laptops running at 35W, so hopefully we get samples of those in the near future. Luke
I could be wrong but i think its more to do with the mode in armour crate software. Even though manual seems higher config than turbo, manual only allows cpu wattage to go upto 45W at most if i remember correctly, turbo on the other hand can tone down the wattage given to graphics if necessary to further boost the cpu clock speed and thus consuming way more power.
which ones more worth it to get? the 6700 one or 6800?
It's the best 14 inch laptop of 2022 and the only competitor to the 14 inch macbook pro
I don't game. My use is for media, web browsing and office work. No budget restraints. Is this a good option for non gamers too?
@@zunairmushtaq5888 yep, the battery life and display and the efficiency of the Ryzen 6000 can perform really well with your uses, but I would recommend the M1 macbooks or the upcoming M2 macbooks, it's more affordable and performs better with your uses
@@marcdave9521
Thanks for your help. My work software required windows otherwise I would have switched already.
@@zunairmushtaq5888 for just browsing and media go for zen fold 14 oled
Amd for creative work? I need to see more tests
If this is what Zen3+ can do, imagine Zen4, which should be here this autumn. I'm very impressed with performance and battery.
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For people in the USA who want this laptop...
This thing is a Best Buy exclusive for now.
ASUS - ROG Zephyrus 14" WQXGA 120Hz Gaming Laptop - AMD Ryzen 9 - 16GB DDR5 Memory - AMD Radeon RX 6800S - 1TB PCIe 4.0 SSD - Moonlight White
$1,899.99
Or
ASUS - ROG Zephyrus Advantage Edition 14” 120Hz Gaming Laptop - AMD Ryzen 9- 6900HS - 16GB Memory - Radeon RX 6700S - 1TB SSD
$1,649.99
For it's size, battery life, and performance on offer, it's pretty neat.
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Ryzen 9 6900HS 35W
CinebenchR23
Multi - 12,821
Single - 1,575
Is it really only bestbuy exclusive and will it stay that way? Where's the 32gb ram version?
@@Rev0ltTTV I can't say whether or not if it will stay that way but for right now, and probably for the next 3-6 months at least, it's going to be a Best Buy only thing for those of us here in the USA.
Can I send you a dm?
Great review of this remarkable laptop Luke 🍻👍🥰. It’s great to see the amazing mobile gaming and production performance of these newer slimline, compact ultra book designs …. Truely awesome! 😎 👍 I agree the NVME cheap out on a slower and lower capacity storage drive for such a professionally priced laptop of this caliber!
Nice balanced review, good to see default settings used giving accurate comparisons. Be interested to know the price comparison of the Intel laptop with the additional cost of the eGPU setup, how much more was the complete Intel system?
Thanks for the feedback! We don't have full details on the ASUS Intel+eGPU system yet (as Intel 12th Gen laptop availability is still limited). But we will be doing a review on it soon, so keep an eye out for that. Luke
I still have the Legion 5 with the Ryzen 7 4800H, and I'm still very happy with it. I'm not a gamer, I use it as a Linux workstation (and it works really well). I'll get a Ryzen 7 6800H laptop once I know Linux will work on it (without too many issues).
So, i'm looking for a laptop that can handle editing large scenes in Blender. Lots of objects, high subdivisions on models, lots of polygons, etc.
The laptop will not be used for gaming.
I don't care about the scene render-time as I will be using a render-farm to render the scenes.
I don't care about the physical size of the laptop.
The laptop will be plugged in 99% of the time so battery performance doesn't really matter either. I know it sounds like i should just get a Desktop, but I like to easily move around my house to different locations instead of being hunkered in one dedicated computer room.
And I'm open to buying a laptop that is a few years old if the used price can get me under $1,000..
Just something that can handle editing and modeling large complex scenes in blender without needing to render them on the device.
What type of (probably used) laptop or desktop replacement would you recommend for this specific use-case?
@@OccultDemonCassette Not really sure about Blender/rendering. What would your minimum GPU requirement me? An Nvidia RTX 3060? An 1660TI? Something like the AMD RX 6600m? Off the top of my head, I'd probably say go for a Legion 5 with the Ryzen 7 5800H and Nvidia 3060. You could probably pick one up brand new for around $1,000 - but you'd probably have to spend more upgrading the memory and M2 drive.
No Thunderbolt4... but Thinderbolt3 is fine with me! Still incredibly fast and will support dual monitors through a dock. Now if Asus can just get those USB4 drivers shipped.
I would really like to see all this stuff in a mini pc comparable to Intel NUCs. That would be amazing.
Still waiting for a reviewer to open the thing and have a look at the guts :)
And I'm concerned the warm air at the bottom of the screen might be an issue in the long run.
Just 180° it and use it if you are that concerned
Stop including McAfee. Smarter words may have been spoken, but I haven't heard them. 😁 I'd have to think that in any higher end laptop most potential consumers would happily pay an extra few dollars to get a clean Windows out of the box with the extra peace of mind knowing it will stay clean. Laptops are a convenience item most of the time, no bloatware would surely add another level of convenience to the product making it a more attractive proposition.
Glad I'm not the only one who gets irritated by the inclusion of McAfee! Luke
@@KitGuruTech You aren't. We all get upset when McAfee shows up on any computer we touch. I always end up removing that software. Especially after it was discovered that AV software has been bitcoin mining for these AV companies while installed. Lol.
So, i'm looking for a laptop that can handle editing large scenes in Blender. Lots of objects, high subdivisions on models, lots of polygons, etc.
The laptop will not be used for gaming.
I don't care about the scene render-time as I will be using a render-farm to render the scenes.
I don't care about the physical size of the laptop.
The laptop will be plugged in 99% of the time so battery performance doesn't really matter either. I know it sounds like i should just get a Desktop, but I like to easily move around my house to different locations instead of being hunkered in one dedicated computer room.
And I'm open to buying a laptop that is a few years old if the used price can get me under $1,000..
Just something that can handle editing and modeling large complex scenes in blender without needing to render them on the device.
What type of (probably used) laptop or desktop replacement would you recommend for this specific use-case?
Look at acer. Some have 3050 and 3050ti under $1000.
Have the Lenovo Legion Slim 7 version of this laptop and love it. What they don’t tell you is you can disable the RX6800s in realtime and still game with the RDNA2 APU which is perfect for 1080p gaming and emulation gaming! What this does is significantly help with battery life as you game with slightly less demanding titles. Thats where the AMD Advantage benefits with this model. It's very efficient. The Legion is better due to all aluminum and larger 16 inch screen
Nice review but we needed to see qhd benchmarks against the 3070 as its CPU bottlenecked at FHD, so we cant really gage which GPU is better.
The 3070 laptop doesn't have a QHD screen unfortunately (and plugging into a monitor changes the performance comparison due to the PCIe bandwidth). I don't think the 5900HX is bottlenecking the 3070 at those frame rates, though. The 5900HX is a very competent CPU with good arhcitecture for gaming. Luke
Question is when is this gonna be available in the UK
Would really like to see this laptop compared vs the RTX 3070 Razer Blade 14 (2021 model). They are fairly close in terms of price and screen resolution, so the real difference for me comes down to gaming benchmarks and screen quality.
I would take the ASUS laptop over that Razer one. Microsoft always skimps on proper cooling.
@@Olie956 What does Microsoft have to do with it? Microsoft doesn't make the laptop, and both laptops run Windows. Also, I've usually heard that Razer tends to be more conservative when it comes to temperatures by throttling performance a bit more compared to ASUS, which is not necessarily a bad thing. In any case, I want to see real tests and direct comparisons--not some random guy's opinion in the TH-cam comments who thinks that Microsoft somehow makes Razer laptops run hotter....
@Tooki We asked for a sample of that Razer laptop as it's basically a direct competitor. We couldn't get one in time for this review due to lack of availability. But we are still hopeful that we will be able to review the Razer unit soon. Fingers crossed. Luke
@@KitGuruTech That sucks. Anyway, nice review!
I don’t understand why the version sent to reviewers isn’t being sold. They’re only selling versions with half the RAM.
Where is that? I'm only seeing the 32GB version on ASUS' website. Luke
@@KitGuruTech Best Buy is currently selling the version with the 6700S and one coming soon with the 6800S, both with only 16GB RAM.
@@kumarsalib722 my complaint is they sell the 8x8 versions. so the max will only be 24GB. i thought dual channel for ddr5 was internal now, so no need for two sticks. why not just ship a single 16GB and leave the slot empty?
@@KitGuruTech The US version of the ASUS site only shows 16GB of RAM.
@@kumarsalib722 Ah yes, I see that one thanks. Looks like a good price if 16GB RAM is OK. Luke
I got mine for £1300 very happy with it, just the temps scare me a bit but then again i have a desktop thats water cooled (well the cpu is) and never goes above 70 lol
I'm glad they enlarged the touchpad, what is the material of the touchpad？
Yes the trackpad is an improvement versus previous G14. It is low-friction, cold to the touch, and has a shine to it. So I believe it is likely a glass top layer. Luke
Glad to hear it can charge via type C.
the sons of the harpy are lookin for you man
(good review man. cheers!)
This is a fricking awesome video!
Watching this in December 2023, should I buy this for £1300 or Lenovo slim 5 14 inch with 32gb 1tb and 4060? Someone please help me!
Where do i find external monitor performances?
I have a 34' ultrwide qhd
Can you check performance on newest bios ? I cannot sustain 45 watts and my r23 multicore is in the mid 11000 range. I feel they reduced pl2 for 308 bios and am trying to find a rip of shipping bios to downgrade.
QHD is no go. Its a 128 bit memory bus. Its infact a lower powered Desktop 6600. Both navi 23 with a 28 CU, 32 MB Infinty cache and everything same. And the the RX 6600 is for 1080p.
RX 6800S inside this laptop is 32CU. And the frequencies it runs at are quite reasonable. QHD is definitely usable at even above 60 FPS, but it will struggle to get near the 120Hz refresh rate without reducing below Ultra IQ. The gaming B-roll in the video is QHD+ in general (60+ in FC6, over 60 FPS in Shadow of the Tomb Raider, well over 60 FPS in F1 2020). Luke
2500$ for laptop which are in 50% of games slower then twice cheaper last year Lenovo 5800h+rtx 3060 which are dirty cheap now and available after months of shortages and relative high prices before, its now 1100-1200$/euro (15,6inch 165hz) and its worth it when i saw performance vs this Zephyrus and 6800s which are official on 3070 level more
How much watts does the rtx 3060 have since your also claiming it’s faster than a 110w 3070
@@malathomas6141 Lenovo ones 130 watts, its not faster in every game but in 30-40% and there is 85-95wats 3070 too , i think that Acer are known most for low wattage gpus and because of that he have something lower prices but its clickbait because they show only it is 3070 but not wattage and peoples think its 3070 so its fast and much better and in the same time something cheaper but reality are other story
@@Mr11ESSE111 Is the Lenovo you are referring to a 15.6" unit? If so, it's not really a valid comparison to criticise the 14", portable ASUS for not keeping up or being cheaper. Luke
Not in the same product category.
@@DeepteshLovesTECH performance are,small are heavilly overpriced and dont have what larger have and this small ones only reminds on tablets with keyboards
Just bought mine for $700 US. It’s on sale.
With those specs though? Rx 6800s and ryzen 9 6900hs?
As I want mobility and battery life, I like the Rembrandt 6nm APU but I built a desktop and just play older games on my laptop; this machine looks nice but I'd wait for value options perhaps in the 15W U class as I cannot justify that outlay for a "toy" 😉😉
I think the U-series Ryzen 6000 laptops will be interesting. Especially if the iGPU performance in that lower power state proves competitive. Luke
@@KitGuruTech My Mum's using an Richland AMD A10 APU laptop I gave her after her desktop packed up and she didn't want it fixed. The old AMD was still able to run Stellaris until the 3.0 release, so my experience with AMD APU is pleasant unlike my Haswell/Nvidia 860M gaming laptop, where Nvidia shortly claimed was a Win8 not Win10 box and dumped support, denying me the non-WHQL features.
That bad experience steered me back towards self built desktop once I was based at home again.
@@KitGuruTech Do we know when we might see those AMD Ryzen 6000 U-Series laptops? Kinda curious myself.
@@RobBCactive "my Haswell/Nvidia 860M gaming laptop, where Nvidia shortly claimed was a Win8 not Win10 box and dumped support, denying me the non-WHQL features."
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@@Olie956 Not entirely sure when we will see review samples or on-sale units, but I would expect it to be in the coming weeks. It looks like later in March should be good for availability of new AMD/Intel laptops. Perhaps some of the delay from the Chinese New Year a few weeks ago? Luke
wow love it i have my new goal is to have that get rid my crappy desktop pc
A lot of power on hand with this laptop for true desktop replacement performance. Luke
Do you reckon alienware x15 3070 r1 can outperform 6800s model?
That really depends on the power allocation for the GPU. The whole laptop GPU naming convention is very awkward right now, because so much of the performance is influenced by the power budget, not necessarily the underlying GPU components or rank. Luke
Actually here in the US the 16GB/non-anime matrix version is only $1850 at Best Buy.
Cant wait to get one on discount in 6 months 👌
Did you ever get it? If yes, how do you like it?
@@mike_t_007 I ended up going for the base Asus TUF A16 (Ryzen 7735HS + RX 7600S) since getting 95% the CPU/iGPU, 20% extra battery life, and 20% extra gaming performance than the G14 6800S for almost a third the price was too hard to pass up. I do wish that keyboard switches were a bit more more tactile like Zenbooks and the screen was a bit sharper -- probably cuz I'm used to both on my QHD LG Gram 17, but it's nothing to complain about at $682.
*RIGHT NOW* Best Buy actually has the 7700S version of the TUF A16 (5-10% faster gaming) listed for $680 flat so I would snag it if you can. Otherwise I would hawk eBay or check back around October/November for similar deals then.
@@mike_t_007I ended up going for the base Asus TUF A16 (Ryzen 7735HS + RX 7600S) since getting 95% the CPU/iGPU, 20% extra battery life, and 20% extra gaming performance than the G14 6800S for almost a third the price was too hard to pass up. I do wish that keyboard switches were a bit more more tactile like Zenbooks and the screen was a bit sharper -- probably cuz I'm used to both on my QHD LG Gram 17, but it's nothing to complain about at $682.
*RIGHT NOW* for the next 12 hours B.e.s.t.B.u.y. actually has the 7700S version of the TUF A16 (5-10% faster gaming) listed for $680 flat so I would snag it if you can. Otherwise I would check back between late-October to mid-December for similar deals then.
@@mike_t_007 I ended up going for the base Asus TUF A16 (Ryzen 7735HS + RX 7600S) since getting 95% the CPU/iGPU, 20% extra battery life, and 20% extra gaming performance than the G14 6800S for almost a third the price was too hard to pass up. I do wish that keyboard switches were a bit more more tactile like Zenbooks and the screen was a bit sharper -- probably cuz I'm used to both on my QHD LG Gram 17, but it's nothing to complain about at $682.
*RIGHT NOW* for the next 12 hours the 7700S version of the TUF A16 (5-10% faster gaming) is on sale $680 flat so I would snag it if you can. Otherwise I would check back between late-October to mid-December for similar deals then.
@@mike_t_007 I ended up going for the base Asus TUF A16 (Ryzen 7735HS + RX 7600S) since getting 95% the CPU/iGPU, 20% extra battery life, and 20% extra gaming performance than the G14 6800S for almost a third the price was too hard to pass up. I do wish that keyboard switches were a bit more more tactile like Zenbooks and the screen was a bit sharper -- probably cuz I'm used to both on my QHD LG Gram 17, but it's nothing to complain about at $682.
Actually, you can snag it for the same price today for the next 12 hours and likely again between Halloween and Christmas.
Battery life?
I wish they released g15 version with amd gpu, it has much better drivers for Linux than Nvidia
LPDDR5.. if you "prefer"? Ehh, it's different enough from DDR5 that an accurate discussion wouldn't use the terms interchangeably.
Ryzen 6000 supports either, so it is down to the manufacturer to choose which to use. Luke
@@KitGuruTech I understand now, thank you!
I'm disappointment by false adveritsement of G14 2020 model 2060 rtx ryzen 9 I can barely play AAA games from 2020 the labtop overheads and its handi cap with a few issues no camera, LED keyboard change no micro sd slot, it has been a nice portable labtop and I use it for my everyday use loving the cover matrix but since I only bought the black model I'm upgrading for G14 white 6800s model. I only need a portible labtop for gaming and razer is my other interest but I'm ROG fan thanks for the review
Juat got 6700s version for $1199.99 today at best buy but now I want 6800s lol
Why?
Something all big reviewers don't mention , yes its a gaming laptop but business use and productivity this laptop failed miserably and here's why. No print screen button for alt+print screen screen shots, amd gpu's are not compatible with citrix workspace vdi's i had issues where the mouse cursor disappeared into excel spreadsheets (there's a workaround to amend the register key) , the vdi kept showing pink and green squares and kept crashing at times. The heat being directed to a glued bezel is not a great innovate idea , it will fall apart in the long term, the enter key is awkwardly cut short with the hash key above it. The charge cable is shockingly short from the connector to the heavy brick. The realtek microphone array would not work with microsoft teams, but once I installed armoury crate selecting ASUS own microphone with silencing then it worked. for gaming yes this laptop is excellent, for business no.
Win + Shift + S is a shortcut for printscreen, no one uses print screen button these days.
where can i buy it ?
What country are you in ?
@@KitGuruTech USA?
@@aarongarza4769 We have sent an email to our UK contact about USA availability. Once we hear back we will reply here.
@@KitGuruTech and Spain?
@@Rocco7070 We're checking with our contact regarding Spain. Luke
McAfee is junk. Agreed!! ASUS should indeed stop this bloat ware nonsense.
Its not combined power for the CPU and GPU. That CPU uses 75w+ on its own. The GPU it another 105w if you let it.
He said the cpu ran at 45w sustained in performance mode which is accurate it only runs 70w in turbo mode
@@malathomas6141 He said the power reading on the following test for the CPU was combined CPU + GPU, which isn't correct. In other reviews, that CPU used far more power. But I guess in performance mode, according to other reviews, it will fall to a sustained 50w.
@@-pcmr-108 50w for the gpu and the rest for the cpu due to smart shift
Max
@@malathomas6141 No, the power readings that he is posting are correct, as other reviewers have found it. Its not combined.
@@-pcmr-108 wyn no I’m reading off from his chart
some one stole mine but it was rtx but meh but I was looking forward for this model anyways
why zephyrus doesn't use rtxs ?
Wondering if there would be model variant that would include a mobile Nvidia 3000 series gpu instead.
they are but the ryzen processor is a monster but the gtx 3080 had problems running resident evil 8 at max specs max frames I got was 35 fps
@@nochildsupport4889 Dlss my friend. Its still the holy grail of upscaling 😔
@@Slimgosa overall is an amazing laptop you won't be disappointed
@@nochildsupport4889 Agreed. AMD certainly deserves its props.
@@Slimgosa I be playing at work with a 1000 watt converter working in the oilfield easy money and it keeps me entertained but they stole mine but I will spend that 2500 without a doubt the graphics are very smooth
i like Luke's voice 🥰
the ladies do like him. so we hear.
@@KitGuruTech ☺️
M1 pro is Jiren
G14 is Goku ultrainstinct
welp. that's about 3500 CAD. Nice buttttttttttt holy crap gonna have to pass on this years model. :|
Go AMD!
Why the f*** are they using 2560x1600 screen on a 14 inch laptop? What a waste of FPS. I want 1920x1200.
The top of the line Asus says £1999.99
Is that the 32GB model? And with the AniMe Matrix display? Luke
I don’t get why they took away the thumbs down counter - I want everyone to know I think this review was shit without having to type anything
Let's be real, the average school aged person from High School to College more than likely isn't buying this to play "Video Games". A College Student may get it with the help of their parents for school and play and more than likely a Engineering/Computer Programming Major. Other than that it'll be your working 9-5, tech aficionado who makes enough to buy it out right on has good enough credit to get it from a major retailer.
They probably didn't bother putting hdmi 2.1, because in the real world if you buy this laptop, you'd never be able to take advantage on 2.1 to begin with, and certainly not doing 4k/120. Plus its hardware would support a 1080p-1440p monitor with FreeSync so not needed. Important to explain things like that instead of just saying...its disappointing without facts or reason as to why.
WTF this costs more than a Macbook Pro14? What are they smoking?
It's quite a different system to a Macbook Pro to be fair. Luke
I would buy an M1 if communist apple would let us put windows on it without using an emulator. Till that happens apple can shove off.
yeah...smart shift just marketing talk for "shared cooling system max cooling tdp of 120w" thus 30w cpu 90w gpu...and potential for more cpu in theoretical benchmarks or pure cpu/workloads. AS the cooling is shared and gpu is not taking load. They tried this in my zeph g15 with a 65w cpu that would "be capable of competitive performance" for pure cpu loads...and shift load with trying to max out GPU wattage to 100w as it would cut cpu down....ironically it would stlil run HOT AF at 20/25/30/35w on cpu...bc most games want to push a single core/thread to as high as possible and even a single core at 4ghz+ is just not possible i with the 5900 monolithic cpu. Hell even the 5700g cpu is yielding 3070 frames with 3080 gpus. If a 3070 was with a zen3 cpu or a 5ghz intel vs the monolithic apu from amd with a 3080. So even on a desktop with maximized cooling and the potential to push 4400mhz ram with a non zen amd monolithic cpu....it means nothing from the inherent lack of l cache compared to zen3 and the r9 zen3. ALL this would you pay the "price" talk could easily be silenced if they tarted releasing 144hz 3ms pure APU laptops for ppl that want to work/game around the 500-600$ price point in a thin/ light formfactor. Being better than an mx450 off the apu/igpu....ppl could easily play moba/card games/arpgs/looter/pve games affordably and still have a work/school system all in one. With good bettery life granted the size they offer. Ive been saying this/waiting for this for years now but were finally getting to this point...also with the advent of wifi6 and nodes/ethernet hubs off these nodes...you can easily stream a main system/beefy gpu and bring an apu laptop like that into another room and play hack n slash rpgs/sports games etc on a larger 4k display in an other room...or set up a racing sim setup in another room...while using your main rig to do the actual rendering/work but still having a system/laptop to interface with instead of having a dedicated racing sim "RIG+ pc" ontop of a gaming pc for "games". Its a cost effective alternative given proper ISP/Main router you can actually stream entire steam libraries per ex i was playing hunter call of the wild on my 4k tv from a laptop while streaming it off my main desktop. As well as fallen order and connecting my controller via BT to the laptop and on the couch while my main desktop was in my room running the game LAG free so we really are "GETTING there". DAMN shame about the strix g15 advantage editon and the various returns due to shoddy liquid metal application leaking and grounding on the motherboard/gpu socket and frying gpus entire boards/systems as bestbuy had an "open box" carousel of the G15 advantage i almost got an open box one for 1289$ then saw a major exclaimer that they were just re-circulating laptops ASUS didnt validate with warranty/repair/rectify. Which totally put me off Asus any liquid metal laptop/asus option...and concepts like "amd advantage" or smartshift. I can only expect these things to get worse as thermal paste degrades and inherent voltages rise and tolerances widen. IDK how ppl can even recommend a laptop with liquid metal as if the ppl using htem will only have 2-3 hour uptimes daily. Or only be seeing idle loads and basic content consumption through the systems.
Just wanted to ask, do you really expect anyone to read your wall of text?
@@samgoff5289 I tried... I made a mistake.
I think they've put a stupid combination of parts inside. You've got a processor that's too high spec for the thermal design, should have stuck with a 6800h, and then youve got a GPU and screen miss match. A 1600p display with a 6800s is stupid. The 6800s is made for 1080p. At 14 inches you could have got away with a fast 1080p screen. Dropping resolution in game on a screen that has a huge higher native resolution always looks fuzzy. A better balance of parts would have been the 6800h processor, and a 6800s paired with a fast 1080p screen.
6800s is probably the worst gpu put this year into laptops, the reason is it's way more underpowered than it should be, it's like they were specifically aiming for better battery life for the trade off of the performance. all this laptop is good at compared to other line up or agasint nvidia and intel is efficiency, now if you are for that than good if not than it sucks bcos literally anything else than g14 will give you better performance this year, so that means if you dont go with all out amd build
But it is faster than last year's rtx 3060 for a 14 inch laptop.
@@rishirajsaikia1323 yes that is true, but you want to compare this years models and bank for the buck instead of last year's. but then again g14 might probably be the cheapest one you will find with 6700s equiped otherwise you will pay instead of 2k 2.3k which is then very close to m16
whats the point of this foolness not everyone is rich..... weres my 700-800 usd laptop with non outed tech? i need a good cpu even its middle say 6cores and a way to plug it a gpu otherwise im going full xbox s, tired of this ripp offs and the stapid hype
Awful.
Why's that?